Britton on his way; Rasner for Tuesday
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- August
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A few items for you:
- You can expect Chris Britton tomorrow. The man has been part of more transactions than Gordon Gekko.
- Darrell Rasner will get the start on Tuesday. Phil Hughes will start for Scranton on Sunday as scheduled.
- Joba Chamberlain flew back from Florida today. He will play catch on Friday afternoon before the game. “It’s day-by-day,” said Brian Cashman. “We’re going to be careful with him. It’s certainly possible he won’t pitch again this season. But what he has shouldn’t preclude that.”
- Cashman refused to speculate on the unsigned draft picks other than to say they’ll take the compensation picks for next season if that’s what it comes to.
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Peter Abraham
they can’t let cole walk
give up bleich/bittle if you have to, but not cole.
Pete do you know for sure that Britton will be up, or are you just speculating cause Britton is on the Scranton express.
I’m wagering Cole and Bleich get done but not Bittle who was a mistake to begin with.
At this point I don’t think we’ll see Joba or Wang before 2009 until the Yanks run off another 8-game win streak. And I doubt that happens.
I know he hasn’t been great lately, but does everyone realize that Andy Pettite (12-9) has NEVER had a losing season? That’s pretty impressive to me since it covers 14 seasons and he’s won at least 12 games in 13 of the 14.
FWIW Curt Schilling has had EIGHT such seasons.
About time.Edwar,Veras,Robertson and Bruney can blow back to back games but he’s first bad outing and Britton was sent back to the minors.
This is why the Yankees have no idea how to use there minor league pitching prospects.
why is Traber up???
Tells you want they think of Britton.
Gordon Gekko is like sooo 80s…
Edwar has a 22.50 ERA in 4 games in his career against the Angels.
In 4.1 innings, he has given up 11 runs and 3 HRs. Ironically, he also has 2 wins against them and 2 blown saves.
No games tonight in the Tampa area. Severe thunderstorms. Matsui can hit from the indoor batting cage.
Maybe Melancon gets the call up tomorrow?
can shelly duncan be a legit contributor for us in september?
Melancon has been shaky, no?
Mark- To answer your questions Shelley looks to be a Richie Sexson type hitter all or nothing even at AAA and Melancon has looked bad his past few out but hey no one can hold a 1 ERA and not get a taste of failure.
Every game is important!
There is a sense of urgency!
We have to start winning now!
Oh, and by the way, Johnny Damon, why don’t you and Giambi sit this one out, and lets let Phil Hughes waste 95 more pitches in AAA so we can run Darrell STINKIN’ RASNER back out there again!
What Joe Girardi and the Yankees are DOING is screaming so loud I can’t hear what they’re saying anymore!
Joba wont pitch this season and he shouldn’t. Phil should be getting stronger and honing his command having him come up for this team is silly. Bring up Igawa and close up shop for 08.
If Joba doesn’t pitch again, it will not be because of the tendinitus, it will be because the organization has given up on the season. I personally want him back quickly and yes if I knew him coming back could have long term implications, then of course he shouldn’t, but does anyone really know the future? Clearly no one managing the Yankees does.
“can shelly duncan be a legit contributor for us in september?”
Time to move on from Shelly.
“If Joba doesn’t pitch again, it will not be because of the tendinitus, it will be because the organization has given up on the season. I personally want him back quickly and yes if I knew him coming back could have long term implications, then of course he shouldn’t, but does anyone really know the future? Clearly no one managing the Yankees does.”
Silly logic here, if you think they have given up so should you. Why risk our future Ace for 6 weeks at the end of a transition year, let Joba rehab properly and get his pitches up in the Fall or Winter leagues.
Al, Melancon just got promoted to SWB and has been lights out, not “shaky.”
He’s been at all three levels this year and actually improved with each promotion.
He won’t be up this year, in a meaningful way, because he’s coming off TJ surgery and has already thrown 84 2/3 IPs.
Expect to see him in September for a couple of appearances, as a reward for a great season, and he may make the team out of Spring Training next year, but he’s not our 8th inning bridge for the remainder of this season.
If Sunday goes well, look for Hughes with the Yankees for his next start. They are bringing him along sensibly and he needs a strong start.. ideally seven innings no more than one earned run
Britton has been treated badly, but the other guys have gotten more rope because they have much more long term potential. Britton is a serviceable guy, but that’s about it. He’s what Bruney was last year before he dropped weight and got serious about his craft. It will be interesting if Britton does the same this off season.
The Yankees have consigned themselves to wait till next season. Proof of that is whereas they were willing to trade for Washburn in July and absorb some 14 million of his contract over this year and next, they didn’t put a claim in for Paul Byrd and the remaining 2 million of his contract, plus he’s a FA.
“i guarantee the yankees sign sabathia and texeira
sabathia, wang, chamberlain, pettitte, hughes”
I can just imagine Hank puffing on a smoke, screaming for the organization to give him 150mil for CC and texting away to Boras on his blackberry including a lot of profanity and exclamation points.
Oh no, he we go with Rasner again…but I Geise we have no choice now do we?
They better have plenty of starters because you can’t go into the season with Chamberlain and Hughes on pitch counts of 150 innings while expecting your other starters not to get hurt. This was the same failed plan this past season.
“Expect to see him in September for a couple of appearances, as a reward for a great season, and he may make the team out of Spring Training next year, but he’s not our 8th inning bridge for the remainder of this season.”
Ben- I never mentioned him being our 8th inning guy this year. Quite frankly I don’t care about 08 anymore.
I can see a scenario where Hank negotiates in public again this off-season and we miss out on all the big FAs because he angered their agents and maybe even the players themselves.
“I can see a scenario where Hank negotiates in public again this off-season and we miss out on all the big FAs because he angered their agents and maybe even the players themselves.”
When did Hank ever negotiate in public? He is a very outspoken guy and besides pleading for Johan excessively, I don’t think his actions have negatively affected this team in the market.
The Yankees made the right move in not bringing Phil up. Not only does he need to work on his stamina in AAA, but last start, he was working on his breaking pitches. I’d like to see him pitch using his whole arsenal in his last start before heading to NY. Again, this was the right move; Phil’s progress should not be impeded in any way because of an unfortunate injury.
This is really unbelieveable. Before this year, I never heard of a lis franc injury and the Yanks had/have two guys with that. Now, in the span of a few weeks, two pitchers have rotator cuff tendonitis? I’m glad for Geise that it’s not serious.
Rasner actually didn’t pitch badly yesterday. If this team showed any life, we should won the game.
Atleast Rasner competes and gives you 5-6 innings of 3-4 run ball… Alfred E. Kennedy can’t even do that.
Tigers claimed Ibanez and Twins claimed washburn but both will remain with the Mariners as no deal was reached for either.
I can imagine Hank away from the ballpark like he’s been all year, puffing on a smoke and spending George’s money.
Hank and Hal = Quitters
IMO, the Gekko reference was the highlight of that update.
The worst part about all the injuries to the young guys is that they will have to be on innings restrictions again next year.
They wont be able to start the full season and pitch through october, assuming they are productive and healthy enough to do so.
That leaves us in the same situation of having to find scrubs(pontoon, washbum, etc.) to eat innings at the end of the year.
Obviously if we bring back pettite and moose, plus sign an FA(presumably CC) then Hughes and Kennedy will be in the minors, and the limit won’t matter as much.
86
You want Britton a reported 6’3” 275 to lose weight because based on height/weight he is medically considered obese. Sabathia at 6’7” 290 is also obese and everyone here is willing to shell out the biggest and longest contract ever awarded a pitcher.
I say buyer beware! As much as I would love to see CC pitching for the Yankees, these are the following pitchers awarded> 100M salaries:
Kevin Brown
Mike Hampton
Barry Zito
Johan Santana
3 out of 4 weren’t worth a plug nickel for their teams and the fourth is doing fine, but his 20M+ contract hasn’t kicked in yet. If the Mets make the playoffs 5 out of seven of his years and win 1-2 WS with him remaining an ace than his contract rewards them 5 fold.
it is possible that hank and cashman have already privately agreed to quit on this year, and of course they can’t say it.
i would prefer that they shut joba down and keep hughes at triple a, and do the best they can to still go for the wild card without them. but cashman passing on byrd and letting the red sox plug a hole pretty much shows he’s likely thrown in the towel.
in that case, i have no idea why he’s messing with joba’s career or hughes for that matter.
ASH – exactly
That is why we cannot go into next year with Hughes and Joba in the rotation, on 130-140 inning limits. Both these guys have shown themselves to be fragile as it is.
Need to bring back Andy AND Mussina and have Joba in the rotation with Hughes in AAA, or sign Sheets, Garland etc. as the 2nd pitcher in the rotation and have Joba up here with Hughes in AAA.
We cannot make the same mistake we made last year. One kid on innings limits in the rotation is enough. Hughes should throw 140-150 dominant, injury-free innings at AAA then get a rotation spot in ‘10.
“it is possible that hank and cashman have already privately agreed to quit on this year, and of course they can’t say it.”
You are out of your freakin mind.
Why would Cashman ever quit? Did he not add Nady, Marte, and Pudge? Is that quitting?
He has a plan. It is about grooming our own pitchers. it may or may not turn out to be right especially the Santana thing but Cashman is NOT QUITTING.
That is one of the dumbest statements ever uttered here and that’s saying something with stuart posting daily.
This isn’t the NBA or NFL. Draft picks don’t instantly help you.
yanks have to sign cole
Troy Percival just left with another hamstring injury, seems like whenever he gets off the mound during a play he tweaks it.
If he is out for an extended Yanks better get rollin
Pavano time!!
Spotted, fifteen minutes ago in an Austin Starbucks, Derek Jeter and Friday Night Lights star Minka Kelly. They were the only ones in the store. I gave him a ball and asked for his autograph, told him it was a game ball from a league I play in and that I didn’t intend on selling it. He did. I told him to hang in there this season. And I left. Man I feel like a dork.
Big Hurt just tied the game in Oakland vs. Tampa off Percival.
And the above info was provided for general info, so please spare the “who cares what Tampa does as long as the Yankees blah blah blah” reply. Thank you for your consideration.
SJ44, in a previous thread, you explained how Keith Law was right about this being a terrible year for the development of Yankee prospects. In that light, what should we be optimistic about? I’m not all that familiar with the farm system, but it always seems as if other teams develop good young players and the Yankees’ youngsters are overhyped. I know about Joba and Hughes (I believe his results from earlier this year were injury related), but Kennedy regressed, etc… Do the Yankees overhype their prospects to the degree that we shouldn’t believe a lot of what we hear?
Also the Yankees have 111M committed to current salaries[ Posada, Damon, Matsui, Cano, Jeter ,A-Rod, Rivera, and Molina] plus 12 million for players eligible for salary arbitration. That leaves 77 million if they plan to spend 200 million next year. That’s without signing Giambi, Abreu, Pavano, Pettitte , or Mussina.
Let’s say Sabathia signs for 25M/year, Teixeira for 20M/year and they bring back Mussina at same 11M/year, plus pick up the club option on Marte for 6M. That leaves 15M to spend to round out the rest of their 25 man roster, approximately another 10 players.
You do the math and tell me we’ll sign both CC and Tex, while leaving us short in the outfield and on the bench.
Frank Thomas is a beast son
But feel free to provide the “hey, the hit Big Hurt got was off Balfour, not Percival, you dumba$$”. Thanks again.
I really hope that there is an Austin in Jersey or someplace in the tri-state because if Derek Jeter is in Austin, Texas right now, I think I just gave up on this season.
“it is possible that hank and cashman have already privately agreed to quit on this year, and of course they can’t say it.
You are out of your freakin mind.
Why would Cashman ever quit? Did he not add Nady, Marte, and Pudge? Is that quitting?”
OF COURSE they quit!
The whole organization has quit, and the players on the field have taken that lead and quit themselves.
That’s why Damon and Giambi sit when “every game matters” and that’s why the worst starter in their rotation the last three months gets another turn on Tuesday.
As much as this peaces me off, I do have to give Hank credit for one thing – at least HE is willing to be honest about it, and say the season is over.
Cashman and Girardi keep talking out of one side of their mouths while making decisions out the other!
It’s unfortunate that the reliever’s last name is pronounced “ball four”
““I can see a scenario where Hank negotiates in public again this off-season and we miss out on all the big FAs because he angered their agents and maybe even the players themselves.â€
When did Hank ever negotiate in public? He is a very outspoken guy and besides pleading for Johan excessively, I don’t think his actions have negatively affected this team in the market.”
As a matter of fact it was Hanks hard nosed negotiating that got A-Rod to ditch Boras and crawl back to the bargaining table.
the tigers are insane on there moves.. they remind me of the yanks of a few yrs. ago, getting old and expensive and grabbing at straws..
Detroit is below 500…
If Joba is cleared medically they should pitch him…
Sabathia is 6 and 0 for the brewers and totally dominating, he can be as fat as he wants with those results.
Cano can be as a big a moron as he wants as long as he hits 333 with a lot of doubles, since he is not coming close to that he needs to get his head together.
That is how it works ask Boston with Manny, when you produce they have a different set of rules, not shocking…
CC is not getting 25M per season.
Bronx Jeers,
Austin, Texas, my man. Players travel all the time on their off days.
I hope Jeter ordered a Greenies Frappe or he might look a little tuckered out tomorrow night.
Jeter does not exactly fly commercial..
he leaves a town when ever he wants…
its funny that the 3 teams who everyone hyped at the beginning of they year as legit contenders were the tigers, indians, and mariners…. all of them are having miserable seasons. such is the life of MLB.
BTW i can see the tigers making a big play for sabathia.
Yankee Trader- Bad article your quoting there.
R23-
If the front office hasn’t quit, and we all agree we need a starter immediately, you tell me why they didn’t put in a claim for Paul Byrd and absorb the 2M left on his salary.
He pitched a 90 some pitch count complete game win his last time out and has been better than Washburn in his last four starts. They let Boston claim him, for salary relief!!
Why on earth would Jeter be in Jersey?
Just kidding. I know he spent his summers growing up there.
So did we decide who got hurt? Is there some kind of karma involved with being called the Big Hurt?
I don’t care if its off day for Jeter. He’s coming off an injury and the most pathetic road trip. If he’s not in the cages or lifting he should be resting not flying to Texas to hang with a C list actress
“That is one of the dumbest statements ever uttered here and that’s saying something with stuart posting daily.”
i’m just trying to figure out should be more insulted, me or stuart.
Breaking News – Russo has left WFAN
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/2008/08/breaking_chris_russo_has_left.html
“If the front office hasn’t quit, and we all agree we need a starter immediately, you tell me why they didn’t put in a claim for Paul Byrd and absorb the 2M left on his salary.”
Maybe because with the addition of Marte,Nady, and Pudge they are getting way over the 200 million mark. At some point you have to stop and the time is now. Have some faith or give up. This is team they will field(+sept. call-ups) for the rest of the year.
tank- Great news, now when is Mike going to leave?
C list actress? You think the guy that fooled around with a married Mariah Carey has prospective gf’s pass a screen test?
To Nobody-
Outfielders:
Nady
Damon-better at DH
Matsui-DH
Cabrera-everyone wants him gone or as a 4th outfielder. Jackson AA
Abreu-probably not re-signed for the 3 year contract he’ll want.
So I definitely see a need for a young athletic outfielder!
Maybe Cashman will mine for the next Carlos Quentin, a steal of a deal for the White Sox!!
So Nobody, next time you think before throwing out the barbs.
Well adding that she was a C list actress was more of a joking exclamation point to the end of my comment. Main point is that if it were me making 20 million dollars as the captain of the yankees, faced with the possibility of missing my first postseason I’d save the booty calls til October and get my head in the game
EDUB, I concede that point.
“Maybe because with the addition of Marte,Nady, and Pudge they are getting way over the 200 million mark. At some point you have to stop and the time is now”
according to vince gennaro, the diamond dollars author, the yankees will lose something like 25 to 50 million( if i remember right) by not making the playoffs.
http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Dollars-Economics-Winning-Baseball/dp/0977743632
wouldn’t byrd have been in investment in not losing those 25-50 million?
EDUB, you sure about that? I’ll wager you’d think twice, lol
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1310368/mediaindex
Randy- Is that from TV, concession, and attendance revenues?
Everyone: Yea or Nay. Based on the recent losses of starting pitching-Joba & Giese, fewer remaining games to get a playoff spot, should the Yankees have claimed FA to be Paul Byrd, the only cost to them being the remaining 2M on his salary. He’s given up 7 runs his last five starts against Anaheim, Detroitx2, Minnesota and Toronto-a CG!!
Here’s one for you emotionally distraught Yankster Fanatics/Brainiacs: the team isn’t out of the race until they are mathematically eliminated.
Kind of simplifies things.
Here’s one for you emotionally distraught Yankster Fanatics/Brainiacs: the team isn’t out of the race until they are mathematically eliminated.
Kind of simplifies things.
I think the Yankees will focus hard on Sabathia in the off-season, and only try to sign Text if CC fails. 1B is going to be a position where they mix and match players I think. They have flexibility there with Nady, and probably want to keep the spot open for Posada, should his shoulder prevent him from remaining at catcher.
yankee trader-
it’s from all those things plus future ticket sales. it’s a good book to read for another way of looking at the numbers. i didn’t read it as close as i should have or i’d have a better answer for you
i think gennaro would likely say the yankees can’t afford to not make the playoffs.
the more i think about it, i don’t understand why the yankees passed on byrd.
at the time, i didn’t realize he had been pitching so well.
Sevrox
You’re absolutely right-they’re not out until mathematically eliminated. Lets look at the remaining schedule. Yankees are 64-57 and 10 games out in lost column from 1st place. Tampa went up 7-5 in top 12th by the way.
41 games left[22 away games]. If we go 28-13 down the stretch that leaves us at 92-70. I’d say that gives us a decent to good chance at a wild card.
Remaining games and my projections needed to win 28 more games:
3 KC-sweep 3
3@Tor-take 2 of 3
3@Balt-take 2 of 3
3Bos-take 2 of 3
3Tor-take 2 of 3
1@Det-win 1
3@TB-take 2 of 3
3@Sea-sweep 3
3@LA- win 1 of 3
3TB-win 2 of 3
4CWS-win 2 of 4
3Balt—win 2 of 3
3@Tor-win 2 of 3
3@Bos-win 2 of 3
Pete’s recent poll has it giving us a 1 in 5 chance of making the playoffs, coolstandings.com a 9% chance.
Yankee Trader——
On Britton… yes, I think the guy should be in better shape and it might make him a better pitcher. Sabathia is just different. He’s a bigger and better version of Wells who is a superior athlete and rubber-armed pitcher. Sure, the limited info we have on $ 100 million pitchers isn’t good, but two of those deals… Zito and Hampton were universally panned as psychotic when they occurred. Brown was still very good until his back problems and it’s early on Santana… but other big money FA pitchers have paid off, including Mussina, Clemens, RJ (first huge contract) Maddux, Smoltz and so on…. it’s a risk worth taking
Why are so you concerned about the total payroll… do you get to ride Hank’s horses? The Yanks have an obligation to spend money and try their best to put a championship team on the field. They’re in a state of flux trying to rid themselves of older, overpaid, unproductive players and improving player development.
I support that effort, which is why I don’t want to see them sign any FA who is over 30. There’s plenty of money to pursue the two best FA out there and still keep payroll relatively flat.
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Derek Jeter spotted at Austin Starbucks
Thursday, August 14, 2008, 06:08 PM
New York Yankees shortstop Derek Jeter was spotted in Austin today, in the company of Minka Kelly, who is in “Friday Night Lights.â€
The pair, who are rumored to be dating, were at the Starbucks on South Congress, sitting quietly at the bar that overlooks the street.
Have you seen them elsewhere around town? Let us know.
Jeter does not care about the yankees on his day off he flies across the country for a chick come on, and he has an injury.