Game 126: Yankees at Blue Jays
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 20, 2008 
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YANKEES (66-59)
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
A. Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Nady LF
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Molina C
Pettitte LHP
Andy Pettitte (12-9, 4.30) vs. the Toronto hitters.
David Purcey (2-3, 5.93) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees are 8-14 in their last 22 games. … Toronto can move into a tie for third place in the division with a victory. … The Yankees are 3-9 in their last 12 road games, getting outscored 70-45. …
ROOKIE LEFTY: David Purcey will be making his seventh start in the majors. The 26-year-old was a first-round pick out of Oklahoma in 2004, No. 16 overall. The Yankees drafted him in 17th round in 2003 and didn’t sign.
2,500 ON THE HORIZON: Derek Jeter has 2,495 career hits.
JOHNNY B BAD: Johnny Damon has one hit in his last 21 at-bats. His batting average has fallen from .325 to .311.
HANGING IN THERE: Bobby Abreu is 6 of his last 16 with three RBI.
THEY MEET AGAIN: Pettitte will be starting against Toronto for the 34th time in his career. He is 16-10, 4.10. The big lefty is 11-5, 4.22 at the Rogers Centre.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 5:52 p.m.: For the first time in months, Girardi did not reconfigure the lineup to face a left-hander. “Our lefties have hit lefties,” he said.
Kim Jones asked him whether this would be the lineup for the rest of the season.
“We will try,” Girardi said.
Girardi claims his newfound lineup consistency is due to “having all our guys.” But he had been sitting Giambi against lefties all season and was doing the same with Matsui when he was healthy.
UPDATE, 6:52 p.m.: Brian Cashman said Carl Pavano is “fine” and still in the mix for Saturday.
UPDATE, 7:22 p.m.: Wow, Giambi drove in a run against a lefty. 2-0 lead for Pettitte.
UPDATE, 8:13 p.m.: That’s 203 home runs for Derek Jeter. He passes Bill Dickey on the franchise list and is now tied with Roger Maris for 11th place. He’s 3 for 3 and has 2,498 hits.
UPDATE, 8:18 p.m.: Meanwhile, Pettitte is throwing a one-hitter and has gotten eight groundouts. It’s his tribute to Chien-Ming Wang.
UPDATE, 9:07 p.m.: Why is Giambi wearing yellow sunglasses? Meanwhile, Hideki Matsui just doubled and ran to second like Fred G. Sanford.
That’s an old TV reference for you kids. Google it.
yawn
lets go yanks!
GO YANKS!
This is going to be a long offseason! hard to believe their won’t be post season baseball one last time in the real Yankee Stadium
Bob(The Original) -
Seriously – what will it take for you to go away?
sigh.
You look at this Yankee lineup on paper, see them going against a pitcher with 5.93 ERA, and say “we’ll score at least 8″.
Then reality slaps you in the face and you’re not surprised when they get shut out.
All you can do is shake your head.
They need this game, and tomorrow too.
gee, I wonder what new and exciting way this team has dreamed up to lose a game and frustrate their fan base….I CAN’T WAIT to sit through another 9 innings of pure torture…..OH, start the game !…start the game !
Come on Bob, somebody has to lead off with the lineup complaints! lol
Seriously though, I agree with you. These guys have packed it in for the season. Its hard to get excited about this group at this point.
Five more road games against teams they can’t beat this year, with the possibility of Victor Zambrano pitching Saturday.
The Yankees start the year talking about how “great” their young arms are and Victor Zambrano or worse, Carl Pavano (if his neck stops becoming “stiff”), may be pitching Late-August games for this team.
Words cannot describe how bad that is.
Giambi earns the 5th spot in the lineup after the golden sombrero, SHOCKER!
Wonder what our record is against lefties that we haven’t seen before….
lefty they’ve never seen before
Giambi batting 5th is as much of a fixture as the GW Bridge.
Why ?
Seeing Giambi batting 5th AGAIN makes this game not even worth watching tonight. Girardi is as clueless as his predecessor, maybe even more.
I think it’s time we play, “what unbeleivable thing will happen to keep them from winning tonight.”
I’m gonna go with being down 4-1 in the 9th, bases loaded, no out and Pudge lines into a game ending triple play.
It’s not as unrealistic as dropping a routine flyball, so…. lol
Not only have we not beaten good pitchers this year, we seem to do worse against rookies.
time to trade Abreau /Giambi and at least get something.
“Jackson and Jesus Montero are the most talented position players in the Yankees system since Derek Jeter. They are that good.
Its also an indication as to how poorly this franchise has done developing their own talent from within. That’s another topic for another day.”
Yes but I think they are improving in that area. The Charleston team is stacked with talent. Romine, Montero, Suttle, Laird, Snyder, Angelini all have nice potential. I also like some of the position players that were drafted this year. Hopefully the trend continues and the Yankees can fill the system with high upside bats.
Another question for you, I’m wondering about Kevin De Leon. He is dominating DSL and he’ll be 18 this october, will he be in Charleston next year? Is his ceiling as high as it was reported last year when he was signed? Lately I’m a bit wary of these guys signed out of Latin America due to the recent reports about shady deals going on down there. Obviously putting up good stats in the DSL isn’t that big a deal so I’m wondering if you’ve heard anything about him?
7-3 Toronto as once again, Cy Purcey will appear tonight and baffle the extrordinary line up.
SJ44 said it correctly, these guys have packed it in.
Regardless of popularity, the Yankees need to look into signing Manny in the offseason.
I am telling you he will rake and not be a problem, just like he is doing in LA.
GO YANKEES!
Hopefully, Giambi will manage to get his bat on the ball today. I can’t take another 4 whiff day.
TWINS WIN! TWINS WIN!
Keep Boston out too!
Off subject, but imo here is what needs to be done with this team for next year….
1. Need to sign Sabathia and Moose. Pettite? I guess we resign him for a year if he wants to come back, but I believe he’ll retire. That gives us a C.C., Wang, Moose, Joba and hopefully Hughes rotation, with alot of good arms in the minors.
2. Plan as if Posada will not be catching most of the games. Try to get a young catcher that bunts and can possibly hit for avg. Plan on Posada, Matsui and Damon splitting all their time at DH and 1B, with games in the OF and C sprinkled in. No need to sign a 1B this year when we have 3 terrible fielders under contract for next year. Do not resign Giambi(duh).
3. Leave Cano alone for another year, see if he bounces back. Still young, it’s not like he’s Rickie Weeks. Leave Jeter and Arod where they are, but make sure to have a young utility IF who can friggin run and field dependably! At some point in the next couple of years, Jeter will need to be moved to 2B, OF or 1B(more likely OF), so plan on looking for a long-term solution at SS.
4. Sign a young veteran OF(or trade for one with minor leaguers) who can start in either RF or LF, leaving Nady with the other spot. Platoon Gardner and Cabrera, but give Gardner a chance to win the job in CF. Do not sign Abreau. Let’s hope Austin Jackson can play at some point in 2009.
5. I kind of like the way the bullpen is shaping up with some of their young pitchers, but jeez don’t leave your best arms in the minors even if they are starters. Use them as relievers in the big-time. Karstens should’ve been a long-reliever all year, if you ask me(and if you asked me in May, I said this).
6. Mo is fine.
7. Cashman knows his talent, resign. Girardi will need a veteran coach with him next year though.
In closing, this team, I think, is still a year away from contending again, but there are little things that can be done in the meantime. After 2009, you adjust some more with Damon and Matsui not taking up space. Then you sign a good 1B. If you can’t get good bats, by all means, at least look at the defense and running ability of your team.
SJ: Could anyone have forseen the injuries?
It’s not just that Joba got hurt OR Wang got hurt OR Hughes underperformed, but it was all three.
I’m betting that the Yankees win this easily.
Now (speaking of being rational here!) there is no really good reason for me to be thinking that. So I guess it’s just a feeling.
Other than Mo, A Rod,Jeter and Joba there is no one under contract in ’09 that should not be fair game for a trade. The trouble is, none of the culprits are really tradeable.
I still have not given up on Cano. I just cant bring myself to do it. I keep recalling in my mind what an offensive force this kid has been at times in ’06 and ’07. He was looking like the old Cano the last trip to Boston. After that, he decided to take a trip on his own to a planet only he knows where.
I LOVE JASON GIAMBI!!!!!!!!
I LOVE GROUNDOUTS TO SHORT RIGHT FIELD!!!!!
LETS GO GIAMBI ***CLAP-CLAP-CLAPCLAPCLAP)***
Honestly, I can’t stand the sight of the schmuck.
It’s not just that Joba got hurt OR Wang got hurt OR Hughes underperformed, but it was all three.
Yes, and the guys filling in have for the most part put the Yanks in position to win games.
It’s the offense.
We’re not getting blown out in many games. We are just losing almost every close game there is because we just can’t hit.
Eric,
Like your points. However, I have concerns about Sabathia being over used by Milwaukee for their short term gain. 130 pitches is alot, especially for a strikeout pitcher.
I would use Cano as the trading piece for a veteran outfielder and sign a 2nd or utility guy to fill in. It would be ok to sacrifice the hitting from Cano for better defense.
But most important, the Yankees need to approach next year as though they have neither Hideki or Posada. If they can contribute, it is a benefit.
“It’s not just that Joba got hurt OR Wang got hurt OR Hughes underperformed, but it was all three.”
True, but our problem hasn’t been pitching. It’s the offense. Losing Matsui and Posada hurt big time, but there is no excuse for the rest of the guys not stepping up and picking up the slack.
Look at TB. Longoria goes down, they insert Aybar in there and don’t miss a beat. We should have been so lucky.
GIDP tandem check
Giambi and Matsuisan’s useless AB checks
no protection for Arod check
Nady in a non RBI spot check
SP they never seen that will dominate them check
Simply Pathetic in CF check
Yup this one will be another loss. Man fu** this sh** I’m going out tonight.
“I would use Cano as the trading piece for a veteran outfielder and sign a 2nd or utility guy to fill in. It would be ok to sacrifice the hitting from Cano for better defense.”
Okay, so we are struggling scoring runs and you want to trade Cano for a utility 2B, who probably won’t be as good a hitter?
I continue to be amazed at how quickly people want to dump Cano. The guy had 97 RBIs last year and 19 dingers. He almost won the batting title the year before that. Yeah, that’s somebody we need to get rid of! Ugh!
Yankee fans pack it in?
From previos thread ………
i think you are forgetting that the Braves traded for Casey Kotchman to be their 1B of the future… but then again, i guess it doesnt really matter what they want.
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To the contrary. I’m well aware of who Kotchman was traded for and it was only a year ago when they traded Saltalamacchia to Texas for Teixeira.
Dangle Cano in front of the Braves and it will get their attention.
In the firs half we placed Damon, A Rod and Matsui on the DL and Jeter took a ball hard off his hand. Injuries could be used as an excuse.
In the second half, there is no injury excuse.
I still think that this team has never recovered from choking in ’04. They dont respond to pressure very well, that’s for sure.
Eric:
All good ideas but I would try and deal Damon this offseason. He has had a good season and next year will be his walk year so he will be motivated and could be an attractive trade chip, even if the Yanks have to pick up some salary (3 mill the most). Offer arbitration to Abreu,Andy, Moose and Pudge. Do not offer Giambi arbitration unless they have an agreement with him that he reject it. If they can’t sign Tex, take a shot at Manny. If they can get him on a 3 year deal, he’d be worth it. Sure is alot more clutch than Arod.
Why bother?? What a lousy showing the last month by this team. They should all be ashamed. I’m going to watch skeet shooting on CNBC instead. It’ll be less frustrating. They gave up on the season so I have given up on them. Nice way to close the stadium, a bunch of overpaid underachievers. Pete just watch the post game on YES and stay home. You can report as easily, it is always the same. No runs, no clutch hits, no heart.
Rebecca,
I don’t think the Red Sox forsaw Schilling missing the entire year, Buchholz becoming their version of Ian Kennedy, Dice-K missing a month, Hansen bombing, Wakefield pitching hurt all year, Ortiz missing two months, Lowell missing the first month and being hurt again, etc.
Basically, I’m saying the injuries, while significant, aren’t the reason the team is this bad. Its just a bunch “me” guys, many at the end of their careers with the Yankees, having bad years.
As far as the Yankees pitching is concerned, Joba, Horne, Marquez, Wright, Hughes, Kennedy, Betances, Humberto Sanchez, basically every pitching prospect with the exception of Mark Melancon and Zach McAllister, has been on the DL this year.
In other words, somethin’ ain’t right. You can’t say you are “developing” pitching, yet have every pitching prospect you have except two go on the DL during the season.
Its why I say they need somebody to come in from the outside and review the entire organization from top to bottom.
Too many things have gone wrong throughout the organization to just chalk it up to “bad luck”.
I’m waiting for a game with three innings each from Pavano, Igawa, and Ian Kennedy. A Cashman trifecta!
“Yup this one will be another loss. Man fu** this sh** I’m going out tonight.”
Thank you. I think too much time in the sun during extra innings fried your brain.
Laura,
As exasperating as that airhead is,I agree with you about Cano. I think he’s a kid that’s taking a long time to mature and needs a good occasional kick in the rear till he does.
Can anybody remind me why we didn’t sign Beltran? I can’t think straight anymore…
I would use Cano as the trading piece for a veteran outfielder and sign a 2nd or utility guy to fill in. It would be ok to sacrifice the hitting from Cano for better defense.
This Sh** is GENIUS I TELL YOU, GENIUS ! lets just F***in’ older while we’re at it. I CAN’T WAIT TO GET THE NEXT 37 YR. OLD HAS BEEN !
“TWINS WIN! TWINS WIN!”
Things are about to get interesting for the Twins. Tonite they fly to Disneyland to begin a 14 game road trip. They then come home for 6 and are back on the road for 10 more.
That’s 24 of their next 30 on the road.
the trenton thunder and charleston riverdogs are more fun to follow than the yankees.
SJ, last week when I said that Girardi had lost this team, you said it was on the players and not Girardi.
Now you say that the players have packed it in, doesn’t that mean that Girardi has lost the team?
This has to be Girardi’s worst nightmare come true.
Fair weather fans
“If they can’t sign Tex, take a shot at Manny. If they can get him on a 3 year deal, he’d be worth it. Sure is alot more clutch than Arod.”
Here’s another head scratcher. You guys want the Yankees to sign Manny Ramirez, who:
1)Doesn’t run hard out of the box (people here flame A-Rod and Cano for that on a daily basis)
2)Plays a lousy LF
3)Showboats after HRs
4)Has hair down to his elbows
5)Quit on his team on more than one occassion as a ploy to get what he wanted
6)Is a Boras client
7)Is a former Red Sox
8)Assaulted a 65yr old man because he didn’t get what he wanted
Does this guy sound like someone that should be on the Yankees? I didn’t think so.
Okay, so we are struggling scoring runs and you want to trade Cano for a utility 2B, who probably won’t be as good a hitter?
Laura, I did not say trade Cano of a utility player. Re-read my statement. I said trade Cano for an outfielder, preferrable one who can field and hit. There are plenty of them.
I said you can sign a utility player to fill in for a year, unless they can find a 2nd to sign.
Cano has regressed. This is not an off year. His swing has fallen apart and his defense is lacking at times. All together, he still presents the best option to trade that is not from the farm system – assuming we are still giving the farm system a chance to develop and mature. If not, then there is plenty in the farm system they can deplete.
I do not like Texeira. He has a tendency to go through long periods of lackluster hitting. Sound like anyone we know? Or everyone we know? We need hitters who will consistently put the bat on the ball and give good at-bats. Players for whom 100 rbi means @15-20 rbis every month, not 5 this month and 30 the next.
Can anybody remind me why we didn’t sign Beltran? I can’t think straight anymore…
Because Cashman used the $$$ for the the Big USeless.
I actually would trade Hughes before I trade Cano.
Either way, we need to use some of our big chips this off-season to net a young stud position player.
Patrick,
It would make sense for DeLeon to start in Charleston next year. The same for Mesa, who has been a revelation in this season.
As far as how good these guys are? No idea.
You never know about these kids until they get to the states and play everyday.
Once they leave home, you get a better idea about their maturity, work habits, etc.
As much buzz as we heard about Montero last year, it wasn’t until spring training that you saw what the buzz was about.
Hopefully, DeLeon and Mesa, like Montero this season, gives us something to talk about next spring.
It would really be helpful to this organization if they can start developing some position players. The lack of doing so is a big reason they are in the spot they are in right now.
Thank you. I think too much time in the sun during extra innings fried your brain.
Enjoy watching the 35 yr. old plus CF tonight lob a Pennington like ball to the cutoff man…heck maybe this team will score w/ RISP like yesterday w/ the same crap spotted lineup.
Whiff: I avoided Sabathia in my fantasy league this year because he threw 240 innings last year. He seems to be holding up fine, and I’m mired in 7th place, haha…
JohnC: I agree Damon is a good trade chip(as I thought Matsui was this past year), but does Damon have a no-trade clause? I’d like to get Tex, but something tells me he’ll stay in Anaheim. Manny is not my idea of getting younger and limber. Great player, but a headcase as well…
and didn’t cashman pass on reed johnson for ensberg?
“I don’t think the Red Sox forsaw Schilling missing the entire year”
The Red Sox should have. Schilling flunked his physical after a season where he only won 9 games.
Hansen actually pitched as many games last year as this year (38) and was even worse.
The injuies to Ortiz and Lowell have definitely had an impact
“You guys want the Yankees to sign Manny Ramirez, who:”
Laura – please don’t do this. Name some knucklehead on the board who does it but this is a lame tactic that people use which is totally annoying imho.
“Things are about to get interesting for the Twins. Tonite they fly to Disneyland to begin a 14 game road trip. They then come home for 6 and are back on the road for 10 more.
That’s 24 of their next 30 on the road.”
It will be interesting to see how they do. That’s a lot of games to be on the road. This stretch by them would work in our favor…if we could actually win our own games!!
Beltran is another big talent/ big money guy who doesn’t come to play every day, in other words he would have been a perfect fit.
This Sh** is GENIUS I TELL YOU, GENIUS ! lets just F***in’ older while we’re at it. I CAN’T WAIT TO GET THE NEXT 37 YR. OLD HAS BEEN !
Yes tard, veteran = 37yr old.
So does that mean Tori Hunter is not a veteran, he is only 32?
You people need to relax, it is not I am advocating signing Garret Anderson, Gary Matthews Jr., or resigning Damon, Abreu, Matsui (ooops all old aging veterans), Sheffield, etc.
I think we’ll be seeing a lot of Gardner in September, especially if the Yanks remain where they are after the Boston series. At that point, we may be seeing a lot of Christian too.
Mick, how can we be fair weather fans? Wouldn’t fair weather fans be some place else than on Yankees blog talking about the Yankees.
If we are fair weather fans, than what are you…a closet Yankee Fan?
“Enjoy watching the 35 yr. old plus CF tonight lob a Pennington like ball to the cutoff man…”
So you mean he plays like Bernie Baseball in the field? Drink it off friend.
It would really be helpful to this organization if they can start developing some position players. The lack of doing so is a big reason they are in the spot they are in right now
That’s a big reason I’m not hopeful about next year either. They have to go outside the organization to replace 2 OF spots as well as 1B. Not to mention for an arm or two.
Hopefully after this roadtrip, they’ll stop feeling like they have to kepp up the charade of being still in it this year and just stick Gardner out in CF for the rest of the season, and see what he can do witha months worth of reg. playing time.
Clueless Joe 2: Bronx Boogaloo
“Cano has regressed. ”
He’s had one bad season. I don’t know that we can declare him as regressed. I think it’s still too early to give up on this kid. If he’s like this next year, then we’d know for sure, but now, it’s just a one year blip as far as I’m concerned.
At this point I’m rooting for the Yankees to lose. If they can manage a sub-.500 record, they will most likely see their first round draft picks protected and will be able to sign big names like Tex and CC without getting robbed
End the youth movement. This is the lineup next year
Damon CF (35)
Jeter SS (34)
Matsui DH (34)
Arod 3B (33)
Manny RF (36)
Posada C (37)
Nady RF (30)
Orlando Hudson 2B (32)
Pudge/Molina C (36/33)
SJ, Are there outside consultants that would do an overview of the organization or more specifically the parent club…I haven’t heard of such a thing since the days of Sid Thrift……Good concept though…
Right on, Vader. There’s a 180-degree difference between disgusted fans who see reality and people who abandon ship. Folks here are realists who don’t feel the need to put lipstick on the pig.
ZMAN,
Pavano had his pick of five major clubs who offered him serious contracts. He took less money to come to the Yankees (the Tigers offered him more) and chose us over the Red Sox (who allegedly offered to match the Yankees final offer). It hasn’t worked out. It’s actually been a disaster, but it could just has easily been the Tigers’ $40 million or the Red Sox $40 million. It’s not like Cashman was the only GM in baseball interested in Pavano, or significantly outbid the other interested teams.
Igawa was a gamble. There were a number of reports at the time that some scouts thought his stuff would be great at AAA and was very good in the JPL (AAAA), but would not translate to the Major Leagues. Those scouts were right. But his contract is very affordable (absent the posting fee). If he could be used as a No. 5 starter, his contract would be worth it. Maybe a big NL park, like Petco field, would be the right environment.
Kennedy is more of an Oppenheimer pick than a Cashman pick, and I still think Kennedy will be good. He was terrific last year, in 19 IP, and has only thrown another 39 IP (mostly lousy) this year. Way too early in his career to write him off.
Redding — can we have Satchel Paige on the mound? Or how about David Wells?
No ghosts in the closet… Yankee fan even after I passed on. All you do is bitch not back up your team. Buncha GM wannabe chumps
Drive 4-5
August 20th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Laura,
As exasperating as that airhead is,I agree with you about Cano. I think he’s a kid that’s taking a long time to mature and needs a good occasional kick in the rear till he does.
What is so exasperating about trading Cano? You people need to let go of these players as easily as they leave for more money.
He is the one trading chip the Yankees still have that is not a pitcher named Joba. You honestly think that his defense is so good he is worth keeping to see if he figures out whether he wants to play baseball?
I am all for getting younger but the fact is, the Yankees do not have the personnel ready in their farm system to get younger unless you fans want to sit through a 70 win season.
So you use what you have? Perhaps I should have advocated trading Damon, Abreu, Matsui, Posada, because there IS definately a market for those guys, why else would the Yankees keep them.
Vader,
I still say its on the players.
Too many people may WAY too much about the manager. Jim Leyland and Tony LaRussa are thought by many to be the best managers in the game.
How are their teams doing? The Tigers have actually performed worse than the Yankees this year, despite all of Leyland’s screaming at them.
Has Girardi made some mistakes this year? Yes. Is that the reason they aren’t going to the playoffs? No.
Its on the players to show some pride and find a way to gain some consistency and finish out the season with some class.
How many more times to do we get the “pleasure” of watching Giambi hit into the shift? Or, Bobby Abreu running the team out of innings? Or, Arod and Damon making bonehead plays?
Even Derek Jeter has played as poorly (especially running the bases) as we have ever seen him.
These are veteran players, multiple year all stars, making these mistakes. Some, on a nightly basis.
When you have a veteran team, its up to the veterans to set an example and play the game the right way. If they don’t because Girardi kicks them in the butt instead of hugging them like Torre did, too damn bad.
How did hugging these guys help in the post-season the last 4 years? To the tune of a 4-13 record. That didn’t work with these guys.
Let’s not forget, this team played like horsecrap for the first 60% of the year last season under Torre. They just don’t have Tampa to kick around this year to get some easy wins and some footing in the division.
At some point, the focus needs to be on the players. They are the one’s responsible for this mess.
This board may have it’s share of dopes, but I don’t think you could call anyone here a fairweather fan.
Although it may be better for our stress levels if we were. lol
SJ, do you think that someone like Buck would come in to be an advisor?
Also, if Cash does not come back, who would the organization go for, someone inside it or say someone from a rival team?
Trisha,
I find it interesting that you dropped the phrase about “Arod will begin to hit” from your name tag.
Ben — Rationalize it any way you want. I never want to see any of three again in pinstripes.
A friend of mine who is a die hard White Sox fan said that he doesn’t think the Yankees have any chemistry. I’m not a big believer in chemistry. I think that it looks like you have chemistry when you are winning because everyone is happy and smiling and joking around. The Yankees dugout looks like they are attending a funeral. You’re not going to see a lot of chemistry under those circumstances.
Than IMO, Posada is the general in the clubhouse, because there is no way this team plays the way it has been if he is playing every night.
While we’re at it Luis Castillo would be obtainable he’s another over 30 yrs. of age has been we can go after. Scrap all this sh** if you can’t get into a club w/o being checked for ID the Yankees don’t want you.
You’re right they don’t have any chemistry and that’s why the bats are struggling.
If by chemistry, you’re referring to steroids and HGH.
One thing is for sure it’s a good thing Girardi hasn’t messed with Torre’s lineup of Damon, Jeter, Abreu, Rodriguez. That has been so productive this year and our #4 and 5 hitters are really getting it done with RISP. Plus they can’t get on base at all, I wouldn’t consider a 400 OBP good, so there is absolutely no sense in moving them up in the order. Girardi is an absolutely genius for not fixing what is clearly broken because he learned from Torre to make changes slowly, over the course of a few years you might ease a guy into moving around in the order on or two spots. Certainly wouldn’t want to do anything drastic with the offense performing so well. Thank god we have a two year old lineup.
Jettman I agree.
Everybody needs to root for the following teams to win so they can pass us in the standings-
Houston, Toronto, Arizona, LA Dodgers, Florida, Texas, Detroit.
This way, we can retain our 1st round pick. Sure, it will be painful to finish in 4th place and it will be embarrassing, but we get to keep our pick and get some nice young talent that otherwise may not have been possible AND sign the top FAs.
Z, I don’t want to see Pavano or Igawa in Pinstripes, either. I was just disagreeing with you dumping those three pitchers’ (non)performance on Cash.
Disagree on Kennedy. We may keep him, or we may trade him, but he will be a solid ML pitcher. Not a star, but a solid No. 3 or No. 4. That’s valuable.
I think we all agree on the following:
We can’t hit.
We have a lineup that does not maximize the little talent we have. Girardi should pick a lineup out of a hat- would probably produce better than this lineup.
We need to get younger more athletic players. Our minor league system does not have major league ready position players.
We are stuck with some untradeable contracts.
We are stuck with too many DH type players who don’t field their regular positions well.
According to our poll, there is little likelihood of making the playoffs, and if we do, no chance of advancing past the 1st round.
Some coaches have to go. Some even want Cashman and Girardi fired, but I don’t think that’s the majority.
Everyone wants CC next year, but many concerned about length of contract.
Did i miss anything?
Pretty well captured, Trader.
We need to get younger more athletic players. Our minor league system does not have major league ready position players.
It will never happen because they are always traded at the first sign of struggle.
So for you “Cano is having one bad season”, what is your opinion of Kennedy and Hughes (although Hughes can’t stay healthy long enough to determine much).
But neither has exactly lit it up this year?
“Some coaches have to go. Some even want Cashman and Girardi fired, but I don’t think that’s the majority.”
The only coach that needs to go is Bobby Meacham. And yes, Brandon – I think Kevin Long should stay.
Ben — we’re probably stuck with Kennedy for a while anyway. We couldn’t get a bag of peanuts for him at this stage.
“Disagree on Kennedy. We may keep him, or we may trade him, but he will be a solid ML pitcher. Not a star, but a solid No. 3 or No. 4. That’s valuable.”
If he’s a #3, then he’s on a very bad team. He’s a 4/5 type, probably the latter and only if he gets his head together.
Did i miss anything?
What about endorsing covert action to get rid of A-Rod. By hiring Showalter to manage next year, A-Rod will demand a trade as he hates Bucky and his brand of playing the game the right way.
One thing I don’t understand is that almost every manager will do something to shake up the lineup once in awhile when the team is in a prolonged slump, yet Joe G. puts out the same crap everyday.
At least rearrange those deck chairs on this titanic!
Fredo — Kennedy’s attitude makes him a non-starter for most teams.
And yes, Brandon – I think Kevin Long should stay.
I’d fire him at the drop of a hat.
I would like to see:
Jeter
Damon
A Rod
Abreu
Nady
Matsui
I Rod
Cano
Melky (ok Gardner)
“So for you “Cano is having one bad seasonâ€, what is your opinion of Kennedy and Hughes (although Hughes can’t stay healthy long enough to determine much). But neither has exactly lit it up this year?”
True, but the sample size is different. Cano has had a few years in the bigs where we’ve been able to see him. Hughes and Ego Kennedy, not so much!
I don’t think we should give up on Hughes either (although is inability to stay healthy concerns me). Kennedy should be traded for a bag of balls ASAP; not because of his pitching, but his attitude. He’s not ready for the bigs or for being a Yankee.
Vader,
I don’t know if Buck would do it but, if I was the Steinbrenner’s, I’d ask.
This team needs to look at their entire organization they way they did after George got suspended for the second time. They need to, “go back to the future” to fix what’s broken.
Buck Showalter is a big reason why this organization changed its idiotic ways of doing business. He also got the organization back to obtaining guys who really want to be here and not just because the zeroes increased on their paychecks.
The Yankees don’t have anybody inside the organization to replace Cashman. If he and the Yankees were to part ways, they would have to go outside the organization to find a GM.
Gene Michael is 70 years old. He no longer wants to be a GM and work like a dog everyday. Its a young man’s job right now and if Cashman departs, they will have to go outside the organization and find a guy who fits the profile.
“I’d fire him at the drop of a hat.”
Really, Brandon? I’m so shocked. I mean, it’s not like you’ve ever let it slip that you want him gone. This is such a surprise.
Brandon-
I’m concerned that when rosters expand, and we showcase what we consider our highly touted pitchers, like Melancon, that if they pitch poorly we’ll even have less chips to trade for people like a Matt Kemp or the next Carlos Quentin.
By the way, one of your favorites , Milton Bradley wants to stay in Texas. Lots of teams want Saltalamacchia.
IPK is a solid 4/5 if he gets his act together. But wouldn’t you sign up for a #5 starter with a 4.30 era? If he stopped walking people I sure would.
I agree SJ44 about an outside auditor, just not Buck.
Well, I know one thing, the end of 2008 will be very interesting.
“I’m concerned that when rosters expand, and we showcase what we consider our highly touted pitchers, like Melancon, that if they pitch poorly we’ll even have less chips to trade for people like a Matt Kemp or the next Carlos Quentin.”
Don’t imagine the Yankees would give any thought to trading Melancon. Aside from Hughes, who among the AA/AAA lot that might come up would bring the type of talent you are talking about?
like a Matt Kemp or the next Carlos Quentin
They aren’t getting dealt. Right now I’m in that boat leave Melancon and Joba off the ML mound this year, this team doesn’t deserve it.
“so any suggestions for my list of people with names that are also complete sentences when said out loud?
so far i’ve got:
Tom Waits
Pete Rose
Jeff Wood
Tim Raines
Ross Gload
Chase Utley
Matt Stairs
there’s definately some i forgot over the years.”
Saucy,
Its time to get my mind of this team. Thank you for the off topic question.
How about
Ty Cobb?
Some of you guys need to make an appointment to see a shrink. This seasons failure isnt on just one person. Not Girardi. Not Damon,Matsui,Kennedy,Hughes,Cano,Jete,Arod. But almost all the team. There is only a few players that played to their expectations this year.
It’s going to be the hottest Hot Stove season in memory for the Yankees
If the Yankees don’t make the playoffs this year, does anyone actually see a situation where the Yankees would deal Arod if they got the right players back in return?
I realize who the “right players” might be would be interpreted very differently by various people.
Melancon seems like he will be nasty.
… but we’ve been fooled before.
“Right now I’m in that boat leave Melancon and Joba off the ML mound this year, this team doesn’t deserve it.”
I want to see Joba back, if for no other reason than to build up his innings a little more (provided it can be done safely). As for Melancon, he’s up around 90 innings pitched. I think they let him finish out the SWB postseason run and shut him down.
saucY,
In honor of Operaman, add this one to your list:
Ima Fredo
Glad to see Johnny back in the saddle. But if it doesn’t work out today, See Ya!
“does anyone actually see a situation where the Yankees would deal Arod if they got the right players back in return?”
No. Two reasons:
1) Yanks would have to get A TON back
2) Nobody else is dumb enough to take on that contract.
3) Yes, that includes Minaya who has an established left side of the infield to save him from himself.
Girardi is still sticking with Giambi 5th i see.
“If the Yankees don’t make the playoffs this year, does anyone actually see a situation where the Yankees would deal Arod if they got the right players back in return?”
No way, Ray. That contract is a monster. Can’t see any other team taking that one on. That’s how we ended up with him in the first place!
Plus, I don’t think that we need to move A-Rod. What we need to do is surround him with the right players so that the burden of driving in every Yankee run doesn’t fall on his shoulders.
Damon,Matsui,Kennedy,Hughes,Cano,Jete,Arod. But almost all the team. There is only a few players that played to their expectations this year.
NAME ONE!
Would anyone do this trade:
Quentin for Betances, Kennedy, Suttle, and Marquez
Guillen said he has no “untouchables” and we’d have to give him some level of talent (Betances) for Quentin.
One more for ya Saucy!!
Dan Uggla
“JOHNNY B BAD: Johnny Damon has one hit in his last 21 at-bats. His batting average has fallen from .325 to .311.”
He needs a day off…
Abreu may be the only one who played to expectation.
What has happened to everybody here? Even some of the regulars have become unbearable to read. That’s not normal.
What has changed since 7:00 PM yesterday? We lost another game. All in all that one game isn’t going to change anything. Unless we put together a long winning streak, the season is over. No more waiting. No more personal slumps. If there is no win streak it is over and we wait to rebuild in the offseason.
Did last night’s game determine the season? No way…I don’t think so. If anything, all it did was emphasize what has been wrong with this team the entire year. So why all the obnoxious and crazy posts today?
If anything, try to be funny and make somebody laugh but the cursing and the directing blame towards that guy, or this guy, or those two guys is just ignorant. The blame is on the team from top to bottom.
“NAME ONE!”
Rivera,Damon,Arod.
The last time we gave Damon a day off, we played Justin Christian over him. Remember that?
Jeff NJ- Would like to see that lineup.
Arun- Showalter would be the equivalent of General Patton, and most certainly, with A-Rods fragile psyche, would have him begging to get traded, and begging the players union to allow him to void his current contract to make him more tradeable.
It’s going to be the hottest Hot Stove season in memory for the Yankees
Hot Stove was burning up between the ’03 and ’04 seasons (Arod, Vazquez, Kevin Brown, etc.). This one upcoming will carry far more meaning though.
Arun
For all the talk I’ve heard about A-Rod and Buck not getting along, listening to Buck on BBT this year, you would think he was A-Rod’s agent or his mother. He is always lavishing praise on.
Has A-Rod ever said anything negative about Buck?
“Abreu may be the only one who played to expectation.”
Well, sorta. Bobby has not walked as much as he usually does this year. His base stealing has also taken a hit. That being said, when you compare him to everyone else, his numbers are the closest to what they should be. I expect A-Rod to end up short at least 10 HRs and 50 RBI from what he should be doing this year.
“Damon,Matsui,Kennedy,Hughes,Cano,Jete,Arod. But almost all the team. There is only a few players that played to their expectations this year.
NAME ONE!”
Abreu is on pace for his normal .300 20 hr 100 rbi so i guess he lived up to expectations. You have to say damon is too i mean did you expect him to hit .300 this yr?
From mlb trade rumors:
Eddie Bajek over at Detroit Tigers Thoughts has successfully reverse-engineered the Elias Type A/Type B formula. Today he assigns statuses to the American League catchers. Jason Varitek clings to Type A, while Ivan Rodriguez has slipped to Type B. Read more about how free agent compensation works here.
Matt:
Guillen doesn’t run the White Sox organization, so who he deems untouchable or otherwise probably doesn’t mean much.
As for Quentin, he’s a 26 year old MVP candidate who is under the team’s control for 4 years past this one. Kenny Williams ain’t moving him. I’d also assume Danks and Alexei Ramirez are in the same boat.
Hey Yankee Fans:
Here is my scouting report on Purcey:
Was the first round draft pick of the Jays in 2004. He looked like he was going to be a bust until he absolutely dominated with 117 innings, 97 hits, 34 walks, and 121 strikeouts in AA this year. Fomer Blue Jay front office guru and now ESPN reporter Keith Law is not too fond of Purcey nor his abilities. However it was recently reported that he had Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) and may have contributed to his late blooming. He now takes medication and fights his mental lapses during games.
He throws hard but has had no confidence in his hook since getting into the big leagues. Despite his great control in the minors he has not yet shown this in the majors. Must be a confidence problem. The Yankees hitters are usually very patient and that will probably work for them in this game.
The battle for third place continues!
That should be AAA.
” Jason Varitek clings to Type A, while Ivan Rodriguez has slipped to Type B.”
Varietk is batting .218 and he’s a Type A free agent? What is the world coming to?
Quentin for Betances, Kennedy, Suttle, and Marquez
Why the f*** am I dealing Betances ?
“The Yankees hitters are usually very patient and that will probably work for them in this game.”
Someone hasn’t been watching the Yankees lately.
Trade Nady, Jeter, Joba, and A-Rod for prospects and just rebuild…
sos, thanks for reviving that post. i thought it went unread… but if anyone read it, i’d guess it’d be you!
“I expect A-Rod to end up short at least 10 HRs and 50 RBI from what he should be doing this year.”
Even after you take into account that he will have missed about 20 games?
Talk about packing it in? I think the Athletic have won 5 games since the All-Star game.
I’ll start my prayers right now so we can score more than 2 runs tonight. It’ll be tough since we’re facing a rookie lefty that nobody has seen before…
Well Chicago would need some talent in return. We still have Brackman, Vizcaino, McAllister, and tons of other pitchers
Pinstripes: Why would we trade Joba if he is part of the “youth movement”? Also why Jeter? He’s a career Yankee and will always be. As for A-Rod, who would take his huge contract?
“Why the f*** am I dealing Betances ?”
To get Quentin. White Sox wouldn’t get near it though so it’s a moot point.
“What has happened to everybody here? Even some of the regulars have become unbearable to read. That’s not normal.”
This season hasn’t been normal either. I posted before that I’ve just about given up so if my posts reflect that state of mind and that bothers you, you’ll just have to skip ‘em. I’d love to be all positive and hopeful, but I’m spent. Being a fan this year has been exhausting. I just don’t have much left in the tank.
I’ll still watch and I’ll still cheer. That’s all I can promise for now.
Talk about packing it in? I think the Athletic have won 5 games since the All-Star game.
I’d get Billy Beane on the phone and offer Coke and Kennedy for that Carlos Gonzalez or Ryan Sweeney
“Varietk is batting .218 and he’s a Type A free agent? What is the world coming to?”
2 years of stats are considered when arriving at this. Also worth noting that OBP is among the stats considered. Pudge’s .290 OBP last year doesn’t help.
“I expect A-Rod to end up short at least 10 HRs and 50 RBI from what he should be doing this year.â€
Even after you take into account that he will have missed about 20 games?”
Yes. And that’s part of the reason that he’s off his usual 40+ HRs/125 RBI season pace. The other part is that he’s pressing up at the plate and is taking bad swings.
To get Quentin. White Sox wouldn’t get near it though so it’s a moot point.
And you want to deal Betances for him ? so when he becomes a pitching stud ..you know what let me stop.
“I’d get Billy Beane on the phone and offer Coke and Kennedy for that Carlos Gonzalez or Ryan Sweeney”
I’d bet he’d do it for Sweeney.
“And you want to deal Betances for him ? so when he becomes a pitching stud ..you know what let me stop.”
Wasn’t my idea. I was just replying to someone who suggested it. Whote Sox wouldn’t do it anyway and the Yanks probably wouldn’t either.
I’d take Sweeney in a heartbeat for Coke and Kennedy. I’d even be willing to sweeten the deal.
What is Miranda’s status in AAA? Maybe (if there are no better options and can’t sign Teixeira) have him play 1B for the Yanks. Don’t resign Giambi, PLEASE don’t resign Giambi.
I’d take Sweeney in a heartbeat for Coke and Kennedy. I’d even be willing to sweeten the deal.
I don’t even think it needs sweetening, he’d do that.
Matt – don’t worry; even Cashman won’t re-sign Giambi.
“I’d take Sweeney in a heartbeat for Coke and Kennedy. I’d even be willing to sweeten the deal.”
Gonzalez is better than Sweeney, but I don’t see Beane doing that (Gonzlaez was the crown jewel of the Haren deal). I don’t think you’d need to sweeten the pot for Sweeney.
i’d trade jackson before his value slips even more, he has started to strikeout too much. he will never make it if he Ks that much. not even strikeout kings like sizemore and granderson struck out this much in the minors.
id also trade mcallister, his value is at an all-time high, ditto de la rosa.
only untouchable player in the farm is montero.
dont fall in love with prospects. last year, tabata was our best hitter in the farm and the saftest bet of any of our players to reach his potential. he hit .313 with a bad wrist in a pitcher’s park and looked like he was on his way to filling the manny prophecies. 6 months later? traded for xavier nady.
Yes, Gonzalez isn’t going anywhere. However, Sweeney is a solid corner outfielder. He may not produce runs like Abreu, but he’s a better fielder, and he has upside.
Peter Backgammons is on with Michael Say on 1050 ESPN Radio.
What’s wrong with re-signing Giambi to a one-year contract as a bench player and part-time DH? It would enable the Yankees to trade Matsui, who actually has some value to teams. To the Yankees he’s millstone because he can’t play the field and monopolizes the DH job.
Ok. Just looked at Juan Miranda’s AAA stats:
.296/10/48, .390 obp, .454 slg (88 games; 324 ab)
He struggles vs lefties (.211 avg) but kills righties (.340 avg) and also hits well w/ risp (.303 avg).
All 10 of his homeruns for Scranton have been on the road, but his batting average at home is 27 pts higher than it is on the road (.311 at home, .284 on the road)
Could we live with Nady, Gardner, and Sweeney as a starting outfield? Hmmm. If we got a Tex for 1B, maybe. Damon could be a fourth outfielder and platoon at DH with Posada. Then there’s the matter of Matsui. Yet another DH. Uggh!
Matt:
Juan Miranda will be a September callup as soon as the AAA playoffs are finished.
As the month moves along Giambi will be seen less and less.
who saids Gonzalez isn’t going anywhere this is Billy Beane king of musical chairs/ If you put a package of Kennedy,Melky, Coke and Humberto Sanchez he’d do it. These are prospects not 100 % proven ML players. This is a guy who also dealt away Quentin when they got him from Arizona.
I can’t remember the last Yankees OF that got a ball like that
Giambi is not only finished, but he’s a walking symbol of recent Yankee frustration. And, he may be the worst first baseman in Yankee history. His time has come.
“It would enable the Yankees to trade Matsui, who actually has some value to teams.”
Wouldn’t be quick to assume Matsui has much value. For starters, he has a no trade clause. Secondly, 16 potential trade partners are eliminated unless the NL adopts the DH before next season. Third, the organization will have to eat salary to get any kind of prospect back.
Saucy,
No problem bro. A few more for ya.
Rolly fingers
Donny Baseball
The Babe
and my favorite
Alberts Pooholes
“And you want to deal Betances for him ? so when he becomes a pitching stud ..you know what let me stop.”
Brandon,
I know you weren’t happy when they traded Tabata.
But don’t be surprised if they trade Betances if the right package comes along.
He’s not an untouchable player.
They might not want to deal him this year because they could be dealing him too early – before his value develops. Low A pitchers aren’t often going to bring back a lot in trades.
That said I don’t think Betances is going to stop them from making a deal.
I like Betancs a lot. But if could take 5 years to harness his stuff. Perhaps longer. He could also take a lot less time. With a pitcher like that it’s very hard to predict.
They won’t just give him away or trade him lightly. But if a deal came along similar to the Nady trade – where they were getting substanstial value back I could see Betances being dealt.
In fact, if Cole had signed I think they would have been much more willing to trade Betances.
Again – not saying it’s going to happen or it’s going to happen this winter. But he’s a chip that could draw back a lot of value.
All it takes is for one other team to fall in love with a guy in your system and you can get a lot for him – even if he’s only pitched fairly well in low A.
If he pitches well next year his value will skyrocket so I don’t think he’ll get dealt this off season.
At the same time he pitches well next year in Tampa and stays healthy teams are going to start asking for him a lot.
“This is a guy who also dealt away Quentin when they got him from Arizona.”
Beane never had Quentin. He was dealt directly to the White Sox from the D’backs.
CB what do you think gets Ryan Sweeney from the A’s what type of deal would it be, I mean he’s not a vet and Beane can’t push 5 for 1 here can Ian Kennedy and Phil Coke land him or a Gonzalez ?
First, Matsui, consummate organization man, that he is, already said he’d waive his no-trade clause if the Yankees asked him.
Second, the Giants for some reason would play him in the OF? How much worse than Bonds could he be defensively? The Yankees already had discussed parameters for a trade to SF this past off-season. SF has a large Japanese and Japanese-American population and desperately needs a bat.
Third, one year at $13 million for a productive bat is affordable to all but the smallest market teams. I could imagine Seattle pairing him with Ichiro for a year, especially if Ibanez departs.
The Yankees might not have to pay a dime of Godzuke’s salary.
“If you put a package of Kennedy,Melky, Coke and Humberto Sanchez he’d do it.”
No, he wouldn’t. He’d keep him around for a few years until he gets to the back end of his arbitration years and deal then for something better than this group.
Beane never had Quentin. He was dealt directly to the White Sox from the D’backs.
Wasn’t that the 3 way deal or a sperate one ?
seperate *
“I could imagine Seattle pairing him with Ichiro for a year, especially if Ibanez departs.”
Me too. Not the SF thing though. Especially not after another knee injury that will require surgery after this year. The Giants philosophy may have changed over the course of this season as they had a nice draft and seem resolute in their commitment to rebuild around the Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez trio.
Time to look to 2009.
“Wasn’t that the 3 way deal or a sperate one ?”
Separate deal.
OK, so, they lost yesterday, and we’ve said they need to play close to .700 ball. So that means they need to win at LEAST the next 2 games, and then they can lose again, but preferably win 3 before 1 loss. It’s do-able. Tonight they have a better pitcher going than the Blue Jays. They need to win. As for Halladay, they beat him already this year, no reason they can’t do it again. Matsui will start to hit, and that should give them a big offensive lift.
What was worse the knats in Cleveland w/ Joba in the playoffs last year for the past 12 games?
“To the contrary. I’m well aware of who Kotchman was traded for and it was only a year ago when they traded Saltalamacchia to Texas for Teixeira. Dangle Cano in front of the Braves and it will get their attention.”
why would they want Cano? they have Kelly Johnson playing 2B for them for the near future.
Hopefully Damon can catch the balls in CF tonight. That is now 4 balls that I can remember off the top of my head that he dropped in the last month. The 1 against Boston where he banged into the wall and hurt his shoulder, against the Angels with Kennedy pitching and the 2 yesterday. And he has only played CF 10 times this year. That is horrible!!
Quinten was drafted in the 1st round by the D’backs in 03.
ARI/OAK/CWS have done a lot of deals together in the past 2 years…
Vasquez (ARI) for Chris Young (CWS)
Chris Carter (CWS) for Quinten (ARI)
Swisher (OAK) for Sweeney, Gio Gonzalez, Anderson (CWS)
Haren (OAK) for Carlos Gonzalez, Smith, Eveland (ARI)
and a couple of more
“what do you think gets Ryan Sweeney from the A’s what type of deal would it be”
I can’t see Beane trading Sweeney this year or for the next couple.
He’s the kind of player oakland needs to make their model work.
He’s only got around a year of service time. Oakland still has him under control for another 5 years. They’re not going to give that up. That’s what the key to their team is – having guys with less than 6 years service time.
And remember – Oakland may have the best minor league pitching of any team in baseball right now. At minimum they are in the top 3. Beane’s done a phenomoneal job the past year of restocking their system.
But like the yankees, they don’t have very many position players.
Sweeney’s not great but he’s very useful and valuable to them.
Giambi still in the 5 hole. Hilarious.
And, he may be the worst first baseman in Yankee history. His time has come.
Would agree if Wilson Betemit had never played 1st base.
SJ, from what you are saying it seems like you want to get rid of Cashman. Am I misinterpreting what you are saying?
Honestly, I think Cashman and the rest of the Yankee execs have a good vision for the future of this team and Cashman is in the best position to execute that plan. I think he’s made good decisions since gaining complete control of the organization. There are some areas that need to be improved but on the whole they are doing a good job. The reason the Yankees are losing this year isn’t totally Cashman’s fault (although he is not blameless).
Bloated contracts for veterans past their prime, injuries, a combination of bad luck and underperformance have all contributed.
Alright people I check w/ you after the game, I’ll catch the recaps later. Go Yankees I guess.
“The Giants philosophy may have changed over the course of this season as they had a nice draft and seem resolute in their commitment to rebuild around the Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez trio.”
Agreed on the Giants. They are in full rebuild mode and Sabean is actually doing a very nice job of it.
They have very good young pitching. In addition to the three kids at the major league level Madison Bumgarner, Tim Alderson and Henry Sosa have had outstanding years.
They are poised to put together an absolutely dominating staff. In that awful division they could be contending again in the not so distant future.
You think there’s any chance, Fredo, Seattle would trade Bedard in some deal for Godzilla? I hear Bedard doesn’t want to return there anyway.
Peter Backgammons just said the Yankees will face competition for CC from both the Angels and the Red Sox. He said he could see the Red Sox bidding for CC, ostensibly he’d have to remove his head from Theo’s rectum before seeing much of anything however.
Bedard might be worth a one-year risk if the Yankees fail to sign CC. I’d prefer to see them risk the injury-prone0 Bedard to the injury-prone Burnett.
The problem is that this Seattle GM, evidently, is impossible to deal with.
Now I’m out.
Can we get a recap of what Gammons has to say on the Michael Kay show?
Instant Replay and that he believes the Soxs will go hard after CC.
“Can we get a recap of what Gammons has to say on the Michael Kay show?”
He talked about how Josh Beckett is the greatest player and he thinks he’s fine. Basically a Beckett praise-fest.
But then, to my surprise, he rambled on about how he loves Mariano Rivera. He came out of it seeming like the biggest Rivera fan in the world.
Alright no joke now I gotta go. Go Yankees I guess.
I was a big Bedard fan before this season began but now that I’ve seen what he’s done to Seattle I definitely don’t want him. He’s been out since july 5 and can’t even get healthy enough to pitch off the mound. Sounds a lot like Pavano. Bad attitude, bad teamatte, injury prone..
Maybe I’m way off base and he has just had an unlucky year with injuries. I hope thats the case because he’s a great pitcher when healthy.
Brandon, I said a while ago that Boston would eventually be our biggest competitor for CC, just like they were for Santana and Dice-K. Ultimately, it always comes down to those 2 teams. The Dodgers will never get in a bidding war with the both of us, so CC would have to take a significant discount to go West.
Boston has money and likely will be out in the 1st round and have had a disappointing year for the most part. Their pitching in shambles.
I could see them going hard after CC and using Buchholz to fetch a young position player.
brandon,
Will you go to lunch!!Go to lunch!! Will you go to lunch!
“But then, to my surprise, he rambled on about how he loves Mariano Rivera. He came out of it seeming like the biggest Rivera fan in the world.”
Albeit, immediately thereafter, his head resumed its customary position inside Theo’s digestive track.
Poor Peter, I think he’s becoming all too aware of how little regard Yankee fans have for his professionalism.
Carlos Quentin-steal for the White Sox-potential MVP in AL. I didn’t say trade for him, because he’s a keeper for the Sox. I want the Yankees to be able to “mine” the other teams for the next Carlos Quentin.
A-Rod and that contract are untradeable. That’s what makes me concerned if the Yankees offer 7 years to Teixeira. We missed our chance in 2007 when the Angels were interested in offering , as rumored Figgins, Santana, and I believe another player for him.
boooooo
There is no chance that CC comes to the Yankees. He’s a West Coast guy who doesn’t like the East Coast. There will be plenty of dough out West for him to take.
Accept that we will be going hard after Burnett.
“Trisha,
I find it interesting that you dropped the phrase about “Arod will begin to hit†from your name tag.”
You know since I didn’t really come up with the idea myself, I got a little superstitious about a reverse mojo. But since it looks like it didn’t much matter I’ll put it back in. Can’t hurt!
make some sense of this for me, anyone, i know matsui is back but gardner was just starting to hit…we know damon in cf is not an option and giambi has been useless, why not nady at 1b?
The other players were Brandon Wood and Shields in the Anaheim offer. In addition to Santana and Figgins.
If the Yankees go after Burnett, the big competitor is the Cubs who have some sort of infatuation with him.
“Our lefties have hit lefties,†Girardi said.
As Bubby would say, “Vez Meir, he just realizes this now? I’ve been saying that since there were anti-Semites in Poland.”
and where does arod get the audacity to state he busted it out of the box? anyone could plainly see he hesitated. since we’re stuck with him, i hate to say this but…get Manny for a 2 or 3 year deal to keep arod company and loosen him up. fans stopped booing him since his money grabbing mvp walk year but he will hear it soon. for his own sanity get Manny.
Funny, for a long part of the season I was saying that with this club, a set lineup is more helpful to them. Girardi changed the lineup almost daily.
According to Peter, the players themselves had requested that Girardi stop playing musical chairs with the lineup. It will be interesting to see if they can start producing some more runs through this last bit of the season.
I pass on Burnett he is a injury waiting to happen. he is pitching well until he gets his new contract. He is 31, he would be the classic Yankee reach..
PASS>>
the ynks may finish behind a team with sucataro, mcdonald, inglett and lind in the lineup… In other words the Yankee stars are shells of there former selves..They area joke, but blaem it on Cashman or Girardi, the yanks stars are no longer stars..
this team is worthless.. the only thing worth watching is the young guys or Moose.. To watch arod do his usual gag, or Giambi to be his immovable slug, or Cano to be his mindless self, no thanks..
BJ ryan is not what he use to be, the whole team is a huge disappointment.. The blather about the dynasty and etc. is the old Yanks these guys are jokes, all talk and no production.
Arod is a huge dissapointment, 33 yrs old and he has never won jack and he has been on the Yanks for 5 glorious years….
Girardi is probably just upset that he couldn’t get his boyfriend Betemit into the lineup…You know the big right handed hitter..
Come on Burnett would be the poetically perfect replacement for Pavano’s spot on the Yankees roster.
The Yankees should sign him for irony’s sake alone.
hate to say i told you so but was ridiculed last year when arod heisted us. it broke jeters heart i tell you. get Manny now that we’re stuck with him for 9 more years. 2-3 years of Manny would bring sanity to arod and loosen him up. and when will the booing start up again ? the honeymoon is over, he was a money player in 07, his own money.
Thanks, but for $18+ million I’ll still take A-Rod at this stage to Jessica Biel’s boyfriend next door.
Maybe If Girardi moved Alex to bat 7th like Torre did, it would help.
Or a Torre man-hug before the game might do it.
it will be so embrassing that a team with a $200 million dollar payroll might finish in 4th place.
in the last 7 years, we may have erased all the good will of the yankees franchise. just one disgrace after another,
ownership is in disarray. hal and hank are polar opposites, cashman their pawn. but as long as they make money. talk to me in 5 years if they continue their losing ways and fans stop showing up like in the old losing days.
Well, at least we won’t be losing in the first round this year.
That’s as positive as you can get about this team.
They *EXPLETIVE DELETED* suck.
i gotta be honest y’all i hate arod. and i am a die hard yankee fan (for 33 years) but i honestly do not feel his karma is good. i was so happy when he opted out last year but stupid hankenstein signed him. Love the yankees but hate that wife cheatin, choking, lip pursing arod.
lol apparently pudge is officially a backup
where does that shell of a man come off insulting the fans, “I busted it out of the box,” my ass.
It’s a frightening prospect to imagine A-Rod still a Yankee in 8 years. If the Yankees haven’t won anything between now and then, who really cares if he breaks the HR mark! He’ll probably be the same player Giambi is today — no place to play him in the field, an occasional home run, .250 or so average. Lord, I have awful visions, just awful.
Fernando Vina and Tim Kurchaschmankler both say that the Yankees are done, stick a fork in them, they are NOT going to the playoffs….that is that….looking forward to 2009…
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.ba-dee…ba-dee….ba-dee….THAT’S ALL FOLKS !
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A-Rod’s lips are purple too. What’s up with that?
hank and hal = james dolan
only interested in profit, not performance. will continue to buy the overhyped kids like hughes and kennedy because cashman will brainwash the stein boys by telling them that we will sell out the stadium for the next few years even if we dont make the playoffs
sabathia will go to LA or boston
sheets to some team in the south
teix to stay with anahiem
manny to the mets or philly
i have no faith in hal dolan or cashman to fix this team.
or ” it was 100% the right move,” on getting thrown out at 3rd with nady at the plate, for the 3rd out . give me a break. and girardi covers for him , like he gave him the sign to go. that was an arod moment, let me make something happen cause i am arod. he would love to see jeter go.
jon: I feel the same. Was relieved, when he opted out. Cashman had enuf intelligence, not to sign him. Don’t you think, he knew he was a choker?? Didn’t matter, he was overruled by ownership. Now they can pay (literally)
peace.
Vina and especially Kurkjin are usually always objective. They can see the light, its time the fans do as well.
I wonder if the players believe they are done, from the looks of it, they do.
karma will catch up with arod..he will not break any record, no less the Babe’s. he will get fatter each year and we will be paying that salary while he spends time on the IR for various muscle pulls. so just go get his best friend Manny and lets be the Bronx Zoo again.
I like Kurkjian. He appears to really enjoy and respect the game. He does seem pretty fair too.
Oh and keep Giambi in the 5th spot…GENIUS MOVE, JOE…TOTAL GENIUS !!!….you IDIOT !
kurkjian, in my opinion, the most likeable person on ESPN.
but people defended him in here last year. well i’m back to say i was right and you were “100%” wrong. the “money” player played us and got his money.
HAH, they made the Joba vs. Beckett game at Fenway a Yankee classic. They should put it on when the Red Sox come to Yankee Stadium so Beckett has to relive it.
Kurkjian is fun to listen to… he always comes up with these interesting, random stats. And seems to have them memorized.
why the loyalty joe g? why not Nady at 1b, sit g-man, play the kid in cf, he just got 5 hits in 2 games and you sit him, what does that do for his confidence? dh matsui , damon in lf, or does that make too much sense?
Yes, Kurkjian has a childlike enthusiasm for baseball blended with solid knowledge. I remember him being enthralled by the 30 – 3 Texas win over Baltimore last year. He had all of these fun comparisons to offer.
I too really like and respect Kurkjian. He has always been extremely supportive of/sold on the Yankees. For Tim to be throwing in the towel means that the Yankees must be looking absolutely putrid to the unbiased eye…
If Joba, Hughes, Matsui, Posada and Wang did not all get hurt and miss most of the season, we would be up by 6 games right now.
That being said, I have never been more confident that we’re going to make the playoffs. NEVER!!!
It all starts tonight – last night was a blip on the radar because of Burnett. We’re going to score double digit runs and win it 11-2.
That was a great game… Joba was unbelievable that night, showed why he has ace potential. That was also the same night we got Nady/Marte.
Joba is the only positive thing this season, thank god he is here…. the only one of the “phenoms” who lived up to the billing, we’re lucky to have him.
nobody has anything to say in here, just too lame. thanks for the feedback, sometimes i’m amazed and embarrassed at these “so-called” Yankee fans.
rob t…then lose to doc halladay tomorrow?
hughes and melky for cameron maybin and mike jacobs?
Rob — What color is the sky in your world?
i guess it’s just the age gap…how can a 50 year yankee fan relate to 14 year olds, my bad.
“rob t…then lose to doc halladay tomorrow?”
Why is that an automatic loss? They beat him already this year, they should be able to do it again. The way Ponson has been pitching, and the quality of Toronto’s offense, the Blue Jays aren’t going to be able to get much. It just comes down to whether the Yankees can scrap some runs together.
should have known better. i’ll get by with a little help from my friends. right??!!!?? right yankee fans, yeah sure.
where’s the brotherhood?
I think Mr. Coffee may have downed a bad cup of java.
That commercial for that Yankees neckless where Joba throws the ball threw the brick wall is really strange. What is the point of it? And then why do the kids scream “IT’S JOBA CHAMBERLAIN!!”?
But Joba does have a great personality, the ideal one to be a star in NYC.
the yanks have been a 500 team this year, totally inconsistent, no cluth hitting or heart.
The sky is all blue in my world baby. It’s really not going to take much to get back in this. They’ve been doing it over the past decade and always come through. If they ever do end up not making the playoffs, then maybe I’ll consider the notion that they’re not getting in but they’ve yet to prove me wrong yet.
Have faith, Yankee brothers and sisters. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
yeah their called the 08 yankees wise-guy
rob…spoken like a yankee fan who has never seen them not make it, right?
“It’s really not going to take much to get back in this.”
Okay, this one’s going a bit far. While not impossible, it will take a tremendous amount and some luck to make the playoffs.
yankees were finished as soon as chamberlain went down.
that was an ominous sign… the mood of the clubhouse looked deflated that night and damaso gagne gave up the grand slam to marlon anderson.
ever since then, they have looked flat. the last time we showed any heart was the angels game where we won 14-10. even that was the nady-show.
Rob Thompson –
Wake up and smell the losing streak buddy.
Rob – I’m willing to do it your way.
GO YANKEES!
Maybe he is the real Rob Thompson posting positive thoughts on this board and trying to steal Girardi’s job by wooing us in with his positivity.
maybe pavano will provide the spark on saturday
Am with you Joltin Joe!
Yanks lineup=Sung to the tune of Sunshine on my Shoulders
Deckchairs….. On the titanic……make me happyyyy.
And Giambi…….In the 5th spot…..makes me cryyyyy.
Arod………Batting cleanup…..What a phonyyyyy..
And Damon…….Still in Center…….Girardi’s highhhh.
the mick, too bad we couldn’t be friends
This guy Purcey was the 16th overall pick. He’s a lefty… and since he throws a tick over 90 mph, he’ll dominate this Yankees lineup.
Purcey goes 7+, 4 H, 3 BB, 5 K
LOL Show. Either that, or maybe he’s spreading a long-lasting stomach bug amongst Red Sox and Twins players.
sing it john
Cashman needs to wheel and deal this off-season. The best moves are not the albatross FA contracts, they are the trades. Cashman is actually pretty good when he does do it.
Get Sabathia then spend the rest of the winter working on the trade market. Joba should be the only one untouchable in any deal, though obviously other guys are more available than some but don’t be selective. Be open minded and see where it take you. Not only with young prospects like Hughes, Kennedy etc. but investigate what the veteran likes of Damon or Matsui will fetch you.
Frank, we’ve been dominated by less than Purcey.
say it loud…
i’m arod and i’m not proud,
just get my friend manny here,
and a pennant will be near.
will anybody really feel bad if we lose tonight?
Since it appears that Arod may very well be a part of this team for a while (like Yanks aren’t going to trade so don’t even think about it) instead of the Curse of Arod, why not concentrate on the Curse of the Republicans (Yanks have not won a world series with a republican president in office since Einsenhower) and MAKE SURE WE VOTE DEMOCRAT DAMMIT!
Joe.. lotta water under the GW. we can be friends now. learn these pups what it means to be a fan and not a crybaby. always criticizing … not all of course… just the ones that ride the bandwagon and think its homeplate.
“We will try,†Girardi said.
It doesn’t look like you’re trying when you have Giambi batting 5th.
“will anybody really feel bad if we lose tonight?”
I don’t know if bad is the correct word. More like feeling like you are getting kicked in the stomach by a horse over and over and over and over and over.
Get ready to watch Giambi swing and miss at Purcey’s 91mph heat.
How can you not feel bad? They’re your team and it is war.
Giambi’s actually still playing in Oakland . . . under the pseudonym Jack Cust.
these 20 year olds dont know what losing means. you cant win all the time, you all will appreciate us old farts more when you grow up and see what losing is. too bad these werent the dynasties of the past, the 90′s were a flashback but not a guarantee like the 20′s-60′s.
I’m not Rob Thomson but I think it’s pretty cool that we almost have the same age.
Wish I was young enough to only remember the good times but can remember the Balboni/Hawkins days pretty well. I was 10 back in 78 when they came back to crush the Sawx.
I wish you could all see it the way I do but realize where the negativity is coming from. All I’m sayin’ is give ‘em chance. They haven’t let us down in a long, long time.
nady will be at 1b, damon in lf, gardner in cf pavano on mound by saturday.
It was an unbelievable time Joe. And I miss centerfield as am sure you do… But you gotta stand behind your guys, win or lose… dontcha think?
Rob, I’m two years older than you, but you’re happier than the Starlight Vocal Band, who sang Afternoon Delight.
I hate to say it, but this is just painful to read. 260-something posts and zero insight whatsoever. Even the normally reliable SJ is claiming the team has “packed it in.”
This isn’t a comment board for Yankee fans anymore. I don’t know quite what this is, but it’s certainly not an entertaining or enlightning place to visit. Maybe it’ll be later, but it sure as hell isn’t right now. I can get more insight from listening to Michael Kay.
So, Pete, I’ll absolutely read but you have to say, but, for now, I’m done with the comment section here.
Good look to you all and, oh yes, GO YANKS!!!
it wouldn’t be a final post without a typo…
i meant “good luck…”
rob…keep the faith man, i may criticize but there is no bigger fan than myself. i still believe they have a chance, there is enough time. but they got to start playing ball like theres no tomorrow.
alright been looking at some ideas for 09. its a bit heavy on RH batters but let me know what you guys think of this:
C: Posada/Molina
1B: Mike Jacobs
2B: TBD
SS: Jeter
3B: Arod
LF: Manny/Matsui
CF: Kemp
RF: Nady
DH: Manny/Matsui/Posada
Starters:
CC
Wang
Joba
Moose
TBD (hughes? pettitte idk)
seems to cut payroll and get a bit younger. though i was thinking something like kemp and jeter in the 1 and 2 slot then arod and manny but thats 4 RHers in a row. idk just thinking out loud
i would have signed mientkeiwicz to replace Arod at 3rd.
jorge…and what is it that you have added to the conversation?
Hang in there Rob. Miracles can happen but if not today, tomorrow. It’s how ya play the game that counts.
EDUB — looks good on paper. I’m not sure I really want to pay for Manny though. I also think we’re stuck with Cano at 2B.
mick…cant get a rise out of these guys, lets get a drink
I want to see Gardner and Christian play. They deserve it. Things happen when they play, and especially when they get on base.
I’m so sick of this offense.
next time warn me about that drain hole
I’m actually kind of pessimist in most other areas of my life – work especially. When it comes to the Yanks however, I chose some time ago to take the positive route and for the most part, I’ve had way more highs than lows and the lows don’t seem to hurt as much. The great thing about baseball is that “It ain’t over, ’til it’s over.”
yeah manny would be expensive but looking at the salaries i think we actually cut payroll assuming we get a scrappy young 2b who knows his role and doesnt expect a lot of money (which is what i had in mind). also manny is just plain clutch and we need someone like that obviously
EDUB –
I don’t know if I’m alone on this one but I REALLY don’t want Manny on this team. We’re old enough and bad enough defensively without him.
And everyone who thinks we’re getting Kemp for Cano is drunk.
game time…
Odds Purcey throws a CG shutout?
well we might have to throw in a few more prospects but i’d be okay with that. its all been said already about cano on here and i agree. hes just not mentally there. he plays like he could care less win or lose.
Headline from mlb.com:
“A-Rod calls on Yanks to start pressing”
Does this mean he wants them squeezing the sawdust out of the bats?
Patrick,
Not what I am saying re: Cashman. Just saying whomever is in charge next year is going to have to change the culture around this team.
If Cashman is back, he needs more help. That’s one thing we do know after what’s happened throughout the organization this year.
“Brian Cashman said that Carl Pavano is “fine†and still in the mix for Saturday.”
Talk about Psycho-somatic.
Come on, if he pitches Saturday, that will be his 20th start of his contract ……. $2M/start. Where do I sign up for this deal???
A-Rod shouldn’t call on the Yanks to do ANYTHING. He’s what’s wrong with the team. It’s not a coincidence that things have been getting steadily worse since he got here. God he’s awful.
“Headline from mlb.com:
“A-Rod calls on Yanks to start pressingâ€
Does this mean he wants them squeezing the sawdust out of the bats?”
I think they should chuck more water coolers,a clubhouse brawl,more high spikes to second,catcher giving the finger as a sign to the pitcher and an Arod hooker/trainer visit. That should start a 10+game winning streak.
will anybody really feel bad if we lose tonight?
Not really. Fans have been conditioned to what this team is about spread out over the last 125 games.
Since 2001, the makeup of the Yankees has been like a dull nagging toothache that needs to be finally pulled.
Hopefully the Yankee’s can hit tonight. My predictions:
They either hit this kid hard tonight
OR
They get their butts kicked by this kid..
There is no in between with the Yankees.
Wow, 2 hits already. Back to back? Oh my, this has to be some kind of mistake.
SoS,
I think you forgot “An F-bomb from A-rod” like potty mouth Josh Beckett.
And I, for one, always feel bad when the Yankees lose. I really hate to lose.
“A-Rod shouldn’t call on the Yanks to do ANYTHING. He’s what’s wrong with the team. It’s not a coincidence that things have been getting steadily worse since he got here. God he’s awful.”
Cynthia, is that you?
David Purcey = Last nail on the 2008 Yankees coffin
Please score….
rally killer dont screw up my birthday!!1
HAHAHHA
Alex…
…I don’t even know what to say. How many times have we seen this this year?
:Queue the Alex bashers:
How quickly people forget about ARod’s 2007 season.
woohooo alex is sooo clutch — please someone tell him, its ok to just get a basehit.
this is why you are a fraud.. you stupid meaningless ballplayer..
you just dont get it.. ur such a putz
trade him
release him
Now would be a good time for another grand slam…
Hilarious. The Jays’ announcer just said. “Bases loaded, on no, look who’s coming up.”
Yeah, Mr. Impotent.
Obviously, the Jays’ announcer doesn’t know our “MVP”.
next time the yanks should have arod try a squeeze.
That’ll do Giambi.
Go Nady!
At least we get 1…. Now the X-Man has to come up big.
i guess giamb’s balls are a tad bigger then the looser a-rod bu not that much bigger
Ok, there’s at least one run…
Right on Joe. Of course we’re dealing with Yankee fans and unlucky pop ups are not part of A-Rod’s contract. I can only sit back and laugh at people who call A-Rod a choker.
“trade him
release him”
You don’t know much about how baseball works, do you?
Well, we got a run. I’ll take it
And the X-Man delivers!
Thank you Nady…
x is very clutch, arod should take lessons.
Fellas we have another 9 year marriage with Alex. Hes not getting traded. So learn to like him or turn off your television set when he comes up.
x rocks…
Way to go X!
A productive inning after getting bases loaded and no outs.
A fraud grow up and when you actually learn something about baseball and not being a troll you can return.
Oh My Gosh!!! Giambi actually sacrificed!!
There he is! The X-Man is mr. clutch. I’ll say it again, this guy feels like Paul O’Neil
These comments are out of control…I’m not saying ARod shouldn’t be criticized, but wow, the anger is just simply out of control.
Laura,
I dont know baseball.
How can you tell me i dont know baseball. Your stupid buddy chokes every time.. Stop with the 2007 season cause if we want to go into detail with that, what did he do in the biggest games of the season. yes those were the playoff games and he choked and he did not lead our team anywhere or help out our pitching. The man is a joke
Thanks X!
First inning = statement. Important to get some early runs for Andy so he can cruise. We’re gonna roll tonight. 11-2 is the final.
I think Kay had on his John Sterling glasses there on that Matsui ball.
SOS27 — We don’t have to either of your dumb suggestions. I’ve disliked him for years — having him sign with the Yankees doesn’t mean we automatically have to either accept the Fraudulent Weenie or stop watching the Yanks.
Who made you King of the Team?
“Come on, if he pitches Saturday, that will be his 20th start of his contract ……. $2M/start. Where do I sign up for this deal???”
Change your name to Vincent Padilla and you just may get your wish
Carl Pavano is ‘fine’. He must be thinking dammit I have to come up with another injury. What can I hurt and not have to pitch, since the sore neck didn’t work. HMMMM I tried the sore butt, I tried the sore shoulder, sore back. I got it sore lat muscle. thats it.
Looking at the bottom of the inning, I have to say that the strike zone was pretty tight on in all quadrants.
Might be tough for the pitchers tonight.
Pettitte needs to make this stand up for awhile. Come on Yanks! 4th place on the line here.
Sure A-Fraud, is that the sheik thing to do nowadays? Blame A-Rod? I’m sure he popped out on purpose. Nice observation. The teams ahead, so quit hatin’
I’m surprised you don’t want ARod cut and Spizio thrown at 3B b/c he has clutch ABs.
Lets go Andy!!
“I dont know baseball.”
You don’t if you think the Yankees are going to trade or release A-Rod. You have a better chance of hitting the lottery.
Remember people, we didn’t need to sweep this series. If we can win today, we get a chance to win it tommorow.
“Who made you King of the Team?”
Same person who made you King of the Whiners. It was a unamimous vote in both cases.
Night All.
The Alex hate is out of control. Not one person alone can win every game for this team. Is Alex struggling a bit now. Yes. Who hasn’t on this team though?
Nah.. im leaving this site.. this is a disgrace for a die hard yankee fan to be soo nice to the punk at third..
Do we have to be reminded this is the last season at yankee stadium, dont ya think we need to be in the playoffs?
A-rod try to hard to be the guy. he always tries to make good pr for him.. He is a frken idiot..
Growing up i always wanted to label myself when i played ball as a team guy and when the team needed me most i would come through.. or do the right thing.. I learned this from guys like bernie, paul or even other new york sports like messier.. However,people who watch a-rods game cant get those ideas from it
He needed to be let go last season. He has the curse and its the A-rod curse of 80 something years
Alright!
Perfect 8-pitch inning!
I’m just glad they scored runs.
Yeah, I can tell labeling yourself as a team guy sure helped for you and it didn’t for A-Rod :-/
How quickly people forget about ARod’s 2007 season.
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HELLO !!! this is a what have you done for me lately business – not a desk job.
Nice job andy.
A-Fraud August 20th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Nah.. im leaving this site..
There is a god!
Wang,
STFU!! I am not an Arod fan. But i know that he isnt the problem on this team. 3 time MVP, 28 BOMBS,300+ AVG.You guys have been bitching all freakin day long. Your starting to sound like Sox fans in their bad times. Balls up!! Accept a transition year and look to comeback firing on all cylinders next year. Thats if a miracle doesnt still occur.
No one is King on this blog. If you dont like what i or someone else has to say skip over them. Dont attack them like a spoiled pri–!
Dan said:
Um… yeah, I’ll take a “win” over a “sweep” at this point ;P
Great start for Andy! I don’t hate Alex, but damn he frustrates the crap out of me. He’s a really smart ballplayer, but this year he seems to do some of the weirdest stuff, like baserunning! They Yanks just need to find the right players around him. If Cano ever gets it together. He could be that guy IMO!
Is anyone else wondering why Nady hasn’t been moved up to the 5th spot in the lineup? Pete, can you ask Joe that one???
“Nah.. im leaving this site.. this is a disgrace for a die hard yankee fan to be soo nice to the punk at third..”
So you think that fans should be nasty and mean to their players when they don’t perform? Hmmm. Interesting theory. I thought that real fans stand by their players during the good times and the bad times. You must have been one of those that booed Derek that year he had that bad start. If so, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Jennifer – you are so right about Pavano. Every time the Yankees have said he is about ready to come back he comes up with another injury. I am sure that even if they name him the starter for Saturday he will come up with some type of problem and not take the mound.
When is the last time the yankees won the first game in a series?
are we hitting a lefty that we haven’t seen before?
Jeter trying to get that average over .300.
“are we hitting a lefty that we haven’t seen before?”
So far. Don’t talk about it; you may jinx it.
Here comes Jeter for 2500!
nice
A-Rod hurts this team more than Igawa, who at least doesn’t eat up $30/year for 9 more years.
I’ve kind of scanned through – but what strikes me a lot is the Cano “regression” stuff. You know, people used to talk a lot about something called the “sophomore slump” and technically, Cano did not have one. Perhaps, this his his year of transition. he has talent. He has done well enough in the past to deserve another shot. (Of course, if the Yankees turn around and make some kind of “OH MY GOSH” trade involving Cano, well, I say, what they hey, that’s baseball.)
There’s so much more that floated through my mind reading all the above posts. But, now I’m going to go watch the game.
Purcey looks like garbage tonight. Needs to take his concentration pills. I guess the rubber match will be Halladay tommorow!
“How quickly people forget about ARod’s 2007 season.”
I haven’t forgotten! One meaningless homer in the last playoff game, too little too late … in the Joba bugs game, 0-for-4 with three strikeouts, leaving three runners on base, two of them in scoring position.
Here’s a good A-Rod stat: ZERO for his last 27 in the playoffs with men on base.
Well ER, what do you suggest? Should we have gotten rid of him and started who? Betemit? Who you wanna sign? I suppose a line of .310 40HR and 130RBI a year isn’t good enough.
So far so good.
Susan Waldman wants both Giambi and Abreu back. It’s a good thing she’s not the GM. Both her and Sterling are impossible to listen to at times.
He’ll say he slept on his arm wrong and it was stiff and he has numbness.
Wow, did anybody see Rick Reilly’s column?
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3542649
My relatives told me the Chinese were using censors and CG fakery (and that the media was playing along) but that billboard is just comical.
Second good inning in a row for the Yankees, making the pitcher work.
Anybody see Jeter prancing around the ball and trying to distract Eckstein?
Susan wants them back cause they talk to her.
Celerino Sanchez, that’s pretty sickening but it’s also pretty sickening that you believe he hit’s a meaningless home run. No runs are meaningless in this game in case you haven’t noticed. It ain’t over till the last out, unless Mo comes in.
“I guess the rubber match will be Halladay tommorow!”
JB (Blue Jays Fan)
Seriously – giving up at the end of 1.5 innings? We should make you an honorary Yankee blogger.
BTW – Canadian Bacon isn’t nearly as good as our
Celerino,
He is not the first future HOF to struggle in the playoffs. Look how long it took Bonds to get it going. Ask Guerrero how he feels about October. If it wasnt for his MONSTER year in 07 we would not have watched our Yankees in the playoffs.
Abreu’s been the best guy this year. I don’t see what’s wrong with maybe a short contract.
Susan was also upset when they let Randy Velarde walk after the ’95 season. That worked out ok.
And if A-Rod is the postseason’s biggest culprit, then you must not have seen Wang or Mussina or Giambi.
Jen G – EVERYONE is wondering that. The righty/lefty match-ups are SO overused. Yes I agree a tough lefty late in the game it’s nice to have a lefty in the pen to bring out, but come on – every time the Yankees play a lefty they put out an awful line-up just to put righty’s in there, and the worst part is, most of our left handed hitters hit lefty pitchers pretty well. At least today we don’t have the whole bench playing because of the lefty.
Over/Under on the length of the Bob Watson “anti-Yankee” suspension for whatever is on Pettitte’s hat? 5 games?
“A-Rod hurts this team more than Igawa, who at least doesn’t eat up $30/year for 9 more years.”
Without Arod’s 07 season, the Yanks could be looking at 2 year playoff drought!
Heh.
I’ve met some Brits who were downright shocked when we served them American bacon.
“Where’s the [meat]?”
Dennis are you the red sox fan? If so, Its sad that a Sox fan believes in our team more than their own. Like i said earlier today. The good news about not making the playoffs this year.
96 Bandwagoners will jump off. Not all bad.
Sos27, what are you talking about? English?
testing
It comes down Ortiz on the Red Sox being one of the best clutch players in the game and it just pisses off the majority of Yankee fans that the star of the Red Soxs is clutch and the Yankees best player (statistically) is not. It just rips up the Yankee fan.
For the record, I’m a Yankee fan.
One meaningless homer in the last playoff game, too little too late … in the Joba bugs game, 0-for-4 with three strikeouts, leaving three runners on base, two of them in scoring position.
Do you dislike Jetes also? Since he played a huge role in pretty much killing us in the postseason last year.
I’m asking since I’m assuming your playing the “what have you done for me lately” game.
SJ44, have been mentioning Buck Shoalwalter. Why was Buck let go, to begin with? And does he have a beef with NYY? It seem like he should…
Yeah, that Cano sucks. We need to trade him.
I’m a Yankee fan in case you are wondering Sos27. I don’t know what I may have said but I just think the A-Rod garbage has gotten stale.
Jennifer -
So right. Media types love the chatty players!
Thing about ARod in 2007 – first you have to GET to the playoffs. ARod certainly helped them do that in 2007. It is unfair to totally discount a 162-game season.
JoeT 28 in 09!! I WILL BE RIGHT ABOUT PAVANO!! 5-0 down the stretch
August 20th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Jen G – EVERYONE is wondering that. The righty/lefty match-ups are SO overused. Yes I agree a tough lefty late in the game it’s nice to have a lefty in the pen to bring out, but come on – every time the Yankees play a lefty they put out an awful line-up just to put righty’s in there, and the worst part is, most of our left handed hitters hit lefty pitchers pretty well. At least today we don’t have the whole bench playing because of the lefty.
Okay just checking, Joe T
I read Pete’s blog multiple times per day but I don’t usually post, and I didn’t know if you guys discussed the Nady/Giambi thing. It does make Girardi look silly to keep putting Giambi 5th. Hopefully he will come to his senses…
Joe Monte, for the record, if they had online polygraph tests I’d be administering one to you right now since I don’t believe for a minute you’re a Yankee fan.
Ortiz clutch? Yeah, now and then. Don’t get too carried away there.
There is a Dennis thats a red sox fan that blogs once in awhile. Guess your not him. You have made some good points.
Abreu would have to go to dh. No longer effective in the outfield. I think others are going to need the dh spot. I dont see them re signing him.
“Yeah, that Cano sucks. We need to trade him.
”
Laura – some people are only satisfied if he breaks a bone on every defensive play – the technical term for these people is m-o-r-o-n-s
No one discredits a rods skill. however, this isnt 2007 and this year, he has been unable to hit with people on. but it isnt just him.
Actually most Canadians (at least in Toronto) eat American style bacon rather than Canadian (back) bacon.
It looks like A-ROD is pressing.
yeah Jen, you’re definitely right… it’s ridiculous that he continues to bat 5th
So if Arod gets a HR w/ the bases empty, which would increase the score, I’m sure we would hear people still scream at ARod b/c he didn’t do it w/ runners on base.
he is really setting that example for his comments today.
Wang, Mussina, Giambi and the rest are not on $300M contracts, did not force their way here only after making bonehead decision to sign with Texas then watch a trade to Boston collapse then proclaim to love the Yankee tradition. ARod gets more heat because he deserves more heat. He should get 300M mil and be left alone? He wanted the NY spotlight, here it is.
No one forced him to leave Texas. No one forced him to opt out. That whole thing was BS. The truth is A-Fraud and Boras overestimated the market. They opt out, expecting $350 million offers to roll in. Cricket … cricket … cricket … then they come crawling back to Yankees.
If it was true that Boras crossed up A-Rod – then how is he still his agent after such a huge mistake? Now Yankees are stuck with the best albatross in baseball.
Yes, I’d take Scott Spiezio at 3B – last I checked, he has two more WS rings than our guy Alex.
57 pitches through 2 1/3?
I see great things for this lamb – I mean guy!
Somebody tell Brandon that Long actually does talk to the players after a crappy at bat.
I’d rather have Matsui stick around than Abreu. Abreu has had a quiet career in NY but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t been big. In my opinion he’s one of the most overlooked guys on the team but assuming Damon and Nady and Gardner and possibly Austin Jackson, maybe you’re right about the OF getting a little full too.
this isnt 2007 and this year, he has been unable to hit with people on. but it isnt just him.
People see to forget that little, yet very important fact.
“Actually most Canadians (at least in Toronto) eat American style bacon rather than Canadian (back) bacon.”
Sir – you have gone a long way to restoring my faith in our kind neighbors to the North!
God’s Speed!!!!
no S.A. check the comments when the jeter bashing starts, I am one of the few defending him from you stat nerds, You can keep arod and giambi and your ops. Jeter one of best of all-time.
A-rod suks
unreal. forget a rod, send giambi to triple a. BS
**see=seem
“I’m a Yankee fan in case you are wondering Sos27. I don’t know what I may have said but I just think the A-Rod garbage has gotten stale.”
We’re on the same side bro. Keep it up. I wanted Arod gone this past offseason. More for his attitude than anything. Im not blind to how much he helps this team on d and offense. Im sure not going to blame him for the failures of 08.
Looks like Purcey is settling in.
What is the deal with the 4-5 hitters tonight, again? 0-3, 1 SO but at least 1 RBI (woops)
oh boy, looks like we’ll get only 2 runs tonight and the Jays will win it in the bottom of 8th again.
True that SoS27. To me A-Rod’s just out there to turn out some huge stats and pick up the week’s paycheck and in 15 years he can look back and say, “yeah, I got the dough and the records.” I don’t want to believe it, but the way he just comes across isn’t good.
no S.A. check the comments when the jeter bashing starts, I am one of the few defending him from you stat nerds, You can keep arod and giambi and your ops. Jeter one of best of all-time.
A-rod suks
Oh, so when Jetes struggles-all is well. No one should dare saw anything bad or provide constructive criticism
When Alex struggles-off with his head. He just sucks.
Us “stat nerds” got it now
**saw-say
argh
Pete says Girardi is keeping the line up steady because they have people back. Since when does getting Matsui = keeping the line up steady?
Personally, after watching the Yankees all season, it is still amazing that all the hype we heard about Girardi, he has yet to switch Abreu and ARod in the line up.
With Abreu’s eye for the zone, I think it would get ARod better pitches.
Dennis, there is also a Dennis who posts here who is a Sux fan, so maybe that’s why you were asked.
Getting Pudge was a necessity for the Yankees once the opportunity presented itself. Jorge wasn’t coming back and I guess they were afraid that they would be in big trouble if anything happened to Molina. Joe threw Pudge right into the fray during one of our most intense series – playing the Angels. A few of us thought that it was suicide to do that and that Pudge really should have been given time to work out with the pitchers, but instead he caught a game the same day he arrived at the Stadium. I think that may have been Andy’s game. A few of us questioned whether Andy was done in by Pudge since Andy typically doesn’t like to call his own game and Andy was getting tatooed on balls thrown outside.
In any event, it appears that Andy refuses to have Pudge behind the plate when he pitches. On the other hand, Pudge has a beautiful rhythm with both Ponson and Rasner. So Molina seems to be in charge of Andy and Moose, while Pudge gets Ponson and Rasner. It saves Molina some wear and tear and it seems to be working. Unfortunately it was a necessary evil for us to lose some of Pudge’s first starts.
For those who have been touting the necessity of defense – I hope you give props to Giambi for the play he just made…
“True that SoS27. To me A-Rod’s just out there to turn out some huge stats and pick up the week’s paycheck and in 15 years he can look back and say, “yeah, I got the dough and the records.†I don’t want to believe it, but the way he just comes across isn’t good.”
:yawn:
ARod specifically wanted to play for the Red Sox or Yankees. He wanted to play for a World Series competitor.
If he just wanted the dough and records, he’d have stayed at the homerun paradise in Texas.
No, A-Rod sucks even when he is piling up his meaningless numbers. Without A-Rod in 2007, that’s 27 million to spend on better players, 2 or 3, maybe 4 guys. Yanks make playoffs anyway and might have a chance at winning a round.
Yanks will NEVER win Series with this guy. He won’t last the nine years left on the deal either, just like he didn’t make the full 10 in Texas.
You know, the Yankees have ARod for a lot of years. Some of you are going to have to chill a bit.
Sui’s tagging the ball. Now if we have someone on third with less than two out, that will come in valuable. If we have someone on second with less than two out, Sui will move the runner over. And as we know with players who are tagging the ball and hitting it square on the nose, eventually those will drop in for hits.
The Sawx are still winning but Buckholz is awful – allowing 3 runs in 2 innings and 48 pitches.
Suck on Klepto!
COME ON O’S!!!!!
“Getting Pudge was a necessity for the Yankees once the opportunity presented itself.”
Disagree. Guy is washed up and the top vets – Pettitte and Moose, won’t pitch to him. He’s off roids so no power, Molina was playing great. Even washed up Pudge is an upgrade over a pre-injury Posada behind the plate but wasn’t worth it at this point.
No, A-Rod sucks even when he is piling up his meaningless numbers. Without A-Rod in 2007, that’s 27 million to spend on better players, 2 or 3, maybe 4 guys. Yanks make playoffs anyway and might have a chance at winning a round.
Yanks will NEVER win Series with this guy. He won’t last the nine years left on the deal either, just like he didn’t make the full 10 in Texas.
Kinda sad actually
““Getting Pudge was a necessity for the Yankees once the opportunity presented itself.â€
Disagree. Guy is washed up and the top vets – Pettitte and Moose, won’t pitch to him. He’s off roids so no power, Molina was playing great. Even washed up Pudge is an upgrade over a pre-injury Posada behind the plate but wasn’t worth it at this point.”
Pudge > Moeller by enough to lose Farnsy’s HRs.
Laura –
Robby gets it…
Anyone else love how these ‘new’ posters crop up and instigate BS all the time?
Good setup with the top of the order up.
Get at least one!
Can they get those runners home?
Can Sui bat again?????
Anyone else love how these ‘new’ posters crop up and instigate BS all the time?
Computer night at Bellevue Hospital-looks like Wed night was added to the schedule.
From an outsider’s perspective on A-ROD (I watch Yankee games on YES through Rogers Extra Innings):
He is the best player in the world, but if someone or something gets into his head he presses and looks bad.
BTW — I never understood why you guys thought Pudge was so much better than Molina. Pudge and his .300 OBA makes a lot of outs.
We can deal with it. You can identify who they are just by their tenor.
They’re just being pests
“Anyone else love how these ‘new’ posters crop up and instigate BS all the time?”
If by ‘love’ you mean ‘hate with every fiber of my being’ then yes!
Nice Jeter!
Yeah baby!
5-0 Yanks!
Jeter! He’s on his way. 2500 in sight and .300 too!!
Anyone still want to sit Jeter?
DEREK!!!!!!!!
runs……RUNS!!!
Molina can’t play every day. My gosh, some of you just have no memories, do you? In the beginning of the season, Posada missed a boat load of games, I don’t think he was on the DL, maybe he was, but at any rate, Molina played every day and he went from being everyone’s hero, not only catching a great game, but hitting double upon double, to being almost unable to hit. As I recall he took quite a bashing from quite a few of you here.
With Posada poised for surgery, and not able to catch, the prospect of Molina everyday was not a good one. He is not an every day catcher, as good as he his part-time. Pudge was an improvement on Moeller.
Well, that’s 1 more run!
Wait! Jeter HR! 5-0 Yanks
“BTW — I never understood why you guys thought Pudge was so much better than Molina. Pudge and his .300 OBA makes a lot of outs.”
True, JB, but Molina has always been a back up guy. They weren’t sure he’d last the rest of the season playing everyday. The Pudge trade isn’t looking too good right now, but I understand why they did it.
Yeah, Derek!
Ballgame.
The Jays score 5 runs in a week.
The fans from Buffalo are going nuts.
TK,
Speaking of bacon, a pig just flew past my window.
Molina with a hit, Damon catching balls, and Jeter with power!
“If he just wanted the dough and records, he’d have stayed at the homerun paradise in Texas.”
Good point. Though Arod’s not the guy to lead the team through any postseason. He’ll contribute fine if everybody else is holding their own but I don’t think he’s got the makeup to carry any team when under pressure. That’s a big reason I think he shouldn’t be cleanup. He’s better suited as a 3 or 5 guy. A little less pressure. It’s a shame but he just lacks that one mental attribute to his game. If he had it, it would be pretty scary.
“I never understood why you guys thought Pudge was so much better than Molina. ”
It had something to do with the fact that Pudge is going to be in the Hall of Fame and was hitting .300 for the Tigers this year. Meanwhile Molina was hitting .220.
Other than that I can totally appreciate why it was a mystery to you.
Well I said I thought the Yanks would take this game. I think I even used the word “easily”. (A note to the baseball gods: I’m not bragging, just sayin’.)
He he he.
lol mel
“Without A-Rod in 2007, that’s 27 million to spend on better players, 2 or 3, maybe 4 guys”
Does a 200 million dollar payroll not show you that the Yankees don’t not sign players because of money?
Alex could be cleanup if everyone/everything is clicking.
Andy is keeping us on the right track. I hope he comes back next year. If we get to the playoffs, I think he will. If we don’t make it, I bet he retires.
Another 1-2-3 for Pettite. 46 pitches.
Doreen-your 8:12pm post about Molina/Pudge is spot on.
We saw what happened when Molina was catching everyday, not too good.
TKinDC:
Batting average means nothing when you have the same On Base Percentage!
Pudge is a slight upgrade over Molina. He has been the most overated catcher the past few years. He has an OBP of around .300
This is why A-Rod has the emotional problems that he does. He’s damned if he does and he’s damned if he doesn’t. A-Rod could lead us to the promise land and I bet there would still be people complaining.
Whoa – the Yankees knocked a lefty rookie out of the game! Set off the fireworks, the season (maybe) ain’t over yet!
If it makes you feel any better, JB, we in Yankee fandomhave experienced the alot of the same this month.
BTW, what’s so special about “the fans from Buffalo?”
“A-Rod could lead us to the promise land and I bet there would still be people complaining.”
There were last year when he put up XBox numbers.
“He has been the most overrated catcher the past few years.”
He hasn’t been the same since he stopped taking steroids. He and Varitek can be the poster children for what happens when you get off the juice. Jason has been able to have flashes of power more often than those two. Perhaps he wasn’t ‘roiding as long.
…Can we like bench Alex or something?
sit him
There are a lot of fans up from Buffalo to cheer on the Yankees. Always is.
I just hope they continue to cheer on the Bills when we take their football team.
Imagine if Baltimore could pull an upset (could be easy with Buchholz on the mound) and if LAA held on to beat Tampa Bay.
The Yankees could actually move up a little!!
Wow, dreams are great….
Stop talking about 2007. He didnt sign a 1 year contract, it is 10 years. He needs to get past this every other year garbage. We would like to win on the even years too.
JB
How many games are the Bills playing there this year?
“Batting average means nothing when you have the same On Base Percentage!”
No kidding – the difference now is 60 points. Practically the same difference in their BA’s.
That isn’t a little delta – its big.
Just a miniscule amount of hitting on Friday and yesterday, and this team would be on the verge of a 5-game winning streak. Probably not worth stating, but I feel they should have one both of those. The pitching has amazingly been there of late. Who would have thought?
X- man should move to A-rod’s spot, put Alex after him and move Giambi to the bench!!
Katie -
Actually they’d just be getting back to where they were before last night.
Keep on Pressing… -
Actually, the Yankees seem to do better with a Dem in the Whitehouse (or so I’ve heard/read), so rather than worry about ARod’s odd/even years, just do your part in November!
The Bills are playing two regular season games here, I believe. When they move here permanently we have to change their name. Toronto Bills sounds funny.
It is SOO COOL watching these Toronto games having just been there. Sigh.
Queue the Abreu haters!
That’s true Doreen. I just as much as I’d hate to admit it, Betemit could actually help a lot more than Giambi….
Laura,
You can rest easy about defending A-rod tonight because the rest of the team is picking up the tab.
Be ready to break out the defense tomorrow though, because there’ll probably be a few key situations for A-rod in a low-scoring game against Roy.
I’m not saying that I want to see him fail, or that he WILL fail; I’m just saying that, great baseball player that he is, he is STILL is more likely to fail (2 to 1) than to succeed (especially against Roy).
It’s nice to see the Yankees score runs off a pitcher they had never seen before. Those are usually the ones that give the Yanks trouble.
Doreen – Trisha posted that earlier about a Democrat in the White House. Guess by early November we’ll know where the team stands for the next 4 years!
How does Kay not know there are two restaurants in the CN Tower? What does he do when he goes there? What has he done over the past whatever years????????
We made the mistake of going there and not eating there, so lots of time on line for the elevators up/down.
Feinsand say Pavano is pitching Saturday –
In other news the snowdrifts are piling up in Hades and Lucifer is none too pleased.
LOL at Sterling talking about Pavano being healthy for next year.
TKinDC:
Molina has a better OBA than Pudge with the Yankees. (.276 vs .270). Look it up.
And Baltimore with the Homerun!!!! 6-4 Bal over Boston!
Laura, I agree about Arod. Also, this is the worst I’ve seen him for an extended period of time in forever. Not making excuses for him, because I don’t know if this has anything to do with it, but I remember when one of the Sux players was going through a divorce, it had such an affect on him that he left the game for the season. Same thing happened to the Sux closer who looks like a hawk(can’t remember his name now but he played for Oakland.) His season went right down the tubes when his divorce was annoucned. Nobody knows whether Arod’s charming ex is putting him through hell about seeing his kids, etc. Again, I think she has moved from one phase to the next in the five stages of grief – and I don’t think she’s at the acceptance phase yet! We all know that Arod is the polar opposite of, say, Boomer when it comes to being able to overcome his emotions.
Just a thought.
O’s take the lead – Clay gets the hook – alls right with the world.
Nice one, TK. Look for an early exit due to aggravated poison ivy, or something of the sort.
“I’m not saying that I want to see him fail, or that he WILL fail; I’m just saying that, great baseball player that he is, he is STILL is more likely to fail (2 to 1) than to succeed (especially against Roy).”
I agree. Just for once though, I’d like to see us tattoo Halladay. This guy has got to have at least one bad outing in him. I’m praying it’s tomorrow.
Boston now down 6-4
clay only lasted 2.1 innings!
Fran -
Yankee fans for Obama? All other issues be dam—-ed! After all, what’s more important?????
“And Baltimore with the Homerun!!!! 6-4 Bal over Boston!”
YAFREAKINHOO!!!!!!
You definitely can’t trust the Chucky Doll on the mound.
Question: How long is Boston going to keep running Buchholz out there for? Boston’s 4th and 5th starters make Rasner and Ponson look like a 1 2 combo of Cy Young and Nolan Ryan.
“TKinDC:
Molina has a better OBA than Pudge with the Yankees. (.276 vs .270). Look it up.”
I don’t doubt it – but that’s a pretty small sample for Pudge – I was going by the season.
Incidentally – I hope we don’t re-sign Pudge – but I understand why we wanted/needed him after Posada went down.
High five all you Yankee fans! Clay getting rocked!
Could Nady be the next Paul O’Neill? I am out of the area and I rely on MLB Game day and the lohud blog to keep me up on the games. Does Nady have some fire and intensity to him? He would be great in the 3 spot and ARod knocking him in…
Trish, I had posted a few threads ago that we don’t know what toll the divorce is having on A-Rod. From what I’ve read, C-Rod is trying to have the pre-nup voided. This probably isn’t going to win me any female fans, but I’m siding with A-Rod on this one. She signed a contract and should have to abide by it. She had to know that he’d eventually be worth more in the future than he was when they married. She should have had something included in the document that addressed him amassing billions.
Yankees for Obama or Obama for the Yankees? Either way, I’m down.
You know, I remember, his burdensome contract notwithstanding, I really like Giambi. Great guy; great teammate.
The Yankees could do worse than to re-sign him for a year at 8 or 9 mil with an option. I’ll regret seeing him in another uniform.
7-3 Orioles.
Doreen – what a great idea. I mean I care about the economy and the War in Iraq, but the Yankees trump that! This seals my vote for November.
That sunset makes me miss my time in upstate NY. The sunsets over Lake Ontario were beyond compare.
At this point I’d vote for Jack the Ripper if he was the Democratic candidate!
Nady better be sticking around. He just seems so cool and locked in whenever he gets up there.
Laura -
Au contraire. I agree with you. You sign a contract, you abide by the contract.
I am really impressed with Nady’s bat.
The Jays bullpen is awesome but we can’t score 5 runs against Pettitte or anybody not named Beckett.
“7-3 Orioles.”
See these are the things that kill my soul. I turned back to our game with the score 4-3 Orioles. WHY! I know I would have slept soundly tonight if I could have seen the progression to 7-3!!!
Trisha
Captain Boston’s divorce doesn’t seem to be helping his season either.
“Au contraire. I agree with you. You sign a contract, you abide by the contract.”
Whew, glad I’m not the only gal who feels that way.
In a divorce, there’s always peripheral damage: the kids, the fans…
Hey –
Can we pretty please keep politics off the blog and stick to non-controversial things like A-Rods divorce and nature vs. nurture?
Sugar on top?
Laura
I agree with you as well. She was an adult who should have known what she was in for when she signed up.
“She signed a contract and should have to abide by it.”
Not only that (but definitely that). I cannot believe she didn’t know he was stepping out on her. I think as long as the checks were being sent to her, she decided she could live with it. Hell after the stuff in the Toronto papers, I would have thought she’d put his butt out on the street. So shame on her. I never thought she was a real class individual anyway (remember the shirt she wore to the Stadium?) Pretty much trailer park stuff. So I bet she is really busting his chops royally.
Are people saying mean things about Canada in this thread?
Why would you make fun of America Jr.?
From what I’ve read, C-Rod is trying to have the pre-nup voided. This probably isn’t going to win me any female fans, but I’m siding with A-Rod on this one. She signed a contract and should have to abide by it.
Laura-I feel the same way.
TKinDC =
Not talking politics – just trying to figure out a way for the Yankees to have an edge.
“Captain Boston’s divorce doesn’t seem to be helping his season either.”
Pat, absolutely. These guys are real human. I know fans want them to be machines but they’re not.
“In a divorce, there’s always peripheral damage: the kids, the fans…”
Laughing out loud on that one!!!
“TKinDC =
Not talking politics – just trying to figure out a way for the Yankees to have an edge.
”
Cool – Doreen – don’t we win every year that Kentucky Hoops wins the NCAA’s? Go Wildcats!
“Not talking politics – just trying to figure out a way for the Yankees to have an edge.”
Uh, yeah!
I must have missed the “mean thing about Canada” stuff.
Adam Lind can hit lefties.
Doreen
Jeter has enough edge for all of them.
No offense, but I don’t think A-Rod is the only one guilty of cheating. I believe she has had some fun for herself.
umm…yea, i’m going to vote for barack obama so the yanks will start winning again.
TKinDC -
Go Wildcats!!!!
Not this time for Lind.
I’m with Fran on this one. I worry continually about war, terrorism, a recession, poverty, Iraq, and other issues of monumental import.
But we’re talking the Yankees here.
GO DEMOCRATS!
First tough inning with two seeing-eye grounders and a solid hit by Rios, but Yankees still commanding lead.
Yankees need a few tack-ons to put it away.
Is there a major team that’s not afraid to inflate Javier Lopez’s ERA?
I wonder if TOR is happy with what they have gotten from Wells after the mega contract they signed him to.
Hey JB! You are seeing the effects of a Yankee lead coupled with the Sux losing their game. I’m actually giddy!
Trisha,
I love ya surely (except for being a Dem).
That said…
NO POLITICS!!!
I was in Toronto in July and loved it. I hope no one is saying anything bad about it.
Katie
Doesn’t matter to me who did what to who. As long as they both do what’s best for the kids.
pat -
I forgot about that! Yes, Jeter has the edge!!!! He needs to share.
A-Rod is at the point where he’s ready to try anything to get a hit. How can you hate on a guy who tries so hard?
OK,
A-Rod is getting comical wearing Giambi’s glasses.
10-4 BALTIMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry but I have to switch channels. I am missing the best there is to see.
Baltimore now leading 10-4 over the Sox
Thank you, Michael Kay for showing us that we have an uphill battle ahead. As if I wasn’t depressed enough.
No we are not Laura. We could have got Ian Kinsler among some other players from Texas for Wells. But Rogers wanted to show the fans that the Blue Jays were going to spend money again.
I am also happy the Sox are losing. I would love to see the Rays take the AL EAST this year (since my team won’t do it).
Terry, we’re kind of goofing around. We’re talking about the curse of the republicans. That isn’t the same as REALLY talking politics! Come on now.
At least he put the bat on the ball. Gotta try and find a positive in there somewhere.
And the O’s game is only in the 4th inning!!
Sux have an off day tomorrow so they don’t mind burning their pen. Also, their off day would give us an opportunity to make up a little more ground…
And to be ultra-clear, we’re talking about the curse of the Republicans strictly with respect to Yankees championships!
“No we are not Laura. We could have got Ian Kinsler among some other players from Texas for Wells. But Rogers wanted to show the fans that the Blue Jays were going to spend money again.”
I had a feeling you wouldn’t be. Besides being oft injured, Wells isn’t putting up the numbers that got him that contract. A lot of these guys signing these mega contracts will never be able to live up to them. Look at Beltran with the Mets or Soriano with the Cubs. He’s helping them win, but not a $136mil.
the Yanks think they have scored 11 runs, it is only 5..
what an offensive explosion our offense can now go back to sleep for a few more days.
they have the Halladay excuse already for tommorrow..
If Pettitte could field it would be 5 zip…
“Doesn’t matter to me who did what to who. As long as they both do what’s best for the kids.”
That definitely was not in her game plan when it first broke out. She also has that cold vengeful stare so I am betting that it still isn’t in her game plan. You KNOW she is going to make him suffer.
You know, if BAL had decent pitching, they’d be a dangerous team. Of course, they are dangerous to us without pitching so there ya go!
That’s it! Not only am I shaving my mustache, I’m asking my mom to share her’s too!
Where’s Bob Lorenz?????? Getting a little weary of Nancy Newman.
it just absolutely blows my mind when you are a major league baseball player who can’t hit the ball to the opposite field.
“And to be ultra-clear, we’re talking about the curse of the Republicans strictly with respect to Yankees championships!”
Zactly!
stuart,
Can’t you just be happy they’re winning and Pettitte is pitching well?
Just catching back up. Looks like the scores are in our favor so far tonight.
Someone mentioned signing ARod was a mistake. I have to agree. There can be no argument about his offensive potential and what he did for the club last year. But, overall, throughout his career, he has been solely about his own numbers and rhetoric rather than helping a team win. This is not to say he is not a team player (he isn’t) but it is to say that he conveniently or coincidentally produces more when it does not have a direct impact on the game than when it does.
Overall, it is great to have him on the team, but I think the Yankees have proven that finding a 3rd baseman to play defense is not completely impossible. The money being paid to Alex could pay for a legitimate 1st baseman, 3rd baseman, and a decent bench player. Those three pieces would be of more value to the yankees than one single player.
I say bring Giambino back next year and teach him how to bunt.
My GOD, with all the bullets he hits into the shift, he’s STILL got an OBP of around 390. If he can push bunts to the left hand side, he wouldn’t have to sacrifice/change his swing/approach and he could find more holes through an unshifted defense.
“the Yanks think they have scored 11 runs, it is only 5..”
Gee stuart – that’s amazing! Can you read my mind from where you are too?
i think i’m finally starting to recover from last night’s game.
I’m loving Baltimore right now.
10-4!
Crush the Sox some more Baltimore!
So what’s the over/under that one of our pitchers hits Millar this weekend?
And what ever happened to the suspension for Edwar? Are we still waiting for his appeal?
Caveman with a catch — yes!
I see some improvements tonight with the hitters. Cano seems to be picking it tonight, getting a few crazy hops. Damon hasn’t dropped anything although I don’t think anything has made it out there yet.
Now, it is on Griardi and Long to keep the hitter’s focused on the positives of tonight if they are going to get on a roll.
As I write, Damon makes a routine catch. Nice Damon.
who’s worse, ian kennedy or clay bucholtz?
I like the little hop Damon does when he throws the ball in.
Agreed on Nancy Newman. Where did she come from and who does she know?
At least Buckholtz can steal a laptop when needed.
Andy at 83 pitches. Complete game, anyone?
“who’s worse, ian kennedy or clay bucholtz?”
Hmmmmm. Hmmmmm. Hmmmmm.
ShamWOW.
Why do people persist in talking about some inane phony curse that’s supposedly tied to a political party? The Yanks have won many titles under administrations of both parties. If you want to believe in a curse, look at the players and look at the contracts.
Nancy Newman is getting on my nerves as well. At least Flaherty is with her on the pre and post game shows this series.
Strong 7 innings by Andy!
As for Pavano, he’ll start just as this Jersey girl invades Baltimore for the weekend.
“who’s worse, ian kennedy or clay bucholtz?”
Ego Kennedy is worse because of his attitude. Bucholtz got screwed up when he threw that no hitter. Must have done something to him.
“This is not to say he is not a team player (he isn’t)”
Not to say he isn’t but you will?
Nick in SF –
Aren’t you the guy with the sense of humor? What gives? I do not believe in curses. Just trying to be light here.
Laura:
The owner of the Blue Jays (Ted Rogers) has megabucks and would spend more if JP Riccardi asked for it. Don’t believe the Blue Jays are in a small market and can’t spend stuff. They were the highest spenders when they last won the World Series in 1993. The problem is with the back end of those contracts like when Joe Carter was finished in 1995. I don’t like the Yankee formula of buying players with stupid long term contracts like they did with Wells. I really blame the Yankees (sorry) with these contracts over five years. It’s catching up to you now.
That being said, we are going to overpay Giambi in the offseason.
Nady is gorgeous even when he makes an out.
We knew it was going to happen!
Woo Hoo Matsui!
“Aren’t you the guy with the sense of humor? What gives? I do not believe in curses. Just trying to be light here.”
QED
This is why we shouldn’t ever talk politics on the blog.
I’d love to believe that, but the truth is that it has more to do with the quality of the Jays starter.
Doreen, I’m grumpy. Plus our players are off in a foreign country, this is serious business.
“This is not to say he is not a team player (he isn’t) but it is to say that he conveniently or coincidentally produces more when it does not have a direct impact on the game than when it does.”
Is this a case of if you repeat a thought often enough it will become a fact?
“That being said, we are going to overpay Giambi in the offseason.”
Better you than us. I like Jason a lot. He seems to be a great guy with a funny sense of humor. However, I look forward to his departure. He is too “hit or miss” for my tastes.
Terry #1, Giambi’s had a long time to learn how to take advantage of the shift in situations. he’s not gonna do it unfortunately.
it drives me nuts, really my biggest gripe about Giambi. can you imagine Billy Martin letting Giambi not take advantage.
tonight, bucholtz threw over to 1st, and the runner was STANDING on the bag! he has become a total headcase!
The only curse I know of the Supreme Court cast in 2000.
You get what you connive for.
hey yankee fans, im going to the stadium for my first time against the rays… i was given some tickets section 208 row c section 4 is this in the lower level or what?
Was that Matsui’s first well-struck ball since coming back? I haven’t been able to watch, I only know he was 0-7 until now.
anyone know if Nancy Newman had some plastic surgery done?
Welcome back Matsui
JB –
Riccardi is going to get fired right? The money he was given to spend has not been spent wisely and the team is not performing.
(geesh – that could have been written about another team closer to my heart
)
“Why do people persist in talking about some inane phony curse that’s supposedly tied to a political party?”
The same reason Sux fans used to bring beer and cigars to the Babe’s grave every year I guess!
Where;s the dude who lost his laptop b/c Bucky swiped it? He must be gaining some satisfaction in seeing no-hitter’s struggles.
TKinDC -
Point taken and given your screen name, you should know. Officially retiring the pseudopolitics.
In a time of crisis the yankees shouldn’t sign the inexperienced hollywood star.
What is with people being doubled off of second? If you don’t see the ball go through, don’t run!!!!
I am against Giambi coming to Toronto but we really do need a bat. With this pitching staff it is such a waste.
Manny is also a possibility because he was a Blue Jays fan growing up.
Bring Back Deb Kaufman, man, Nancy Newman is hurting.
Curse of the laptop – perhaps another 86 years for the Sux.
KillSchill once again didn’t get the memo.
“Manny was a Blue Jays fan growing up?”
Yeah, and you be one of those characters in Canadian Bacon.
Point taken.
But I can HOPE can’t I?!
“The money being paid to Alex could pay for a legitimate 1st baseman, 3rd baseman, and a decent bench player. Those three pieces would be of more value to the yankees than one single player.”
Were those players available via free agency last year? Nope.
Also…who cares? What acquisition have they refrained from making because they were paying ARod too much? None.
Yankees Tech -
Nancy Newman IS plastic, that’s the problem.
Pettitte’s thrown 83 pitches and looks great. WTF is Bruney pitching?
“ShamWOW.”
Pure Comedic Gold Angel!
‘It has changed my life!’
TKinDC:
Riccardi stays if the team finishes above .500 thanks to the Yankees. Look, you guys spend $200 million and he spends $100 million. We have almost the same record. If JP gets fired, what does that say about Cashman?
Brian Bruney?!?!
I love Canadian bacon.
Did Andy look like he was tiring last inning? This seems like an odd move that will ensure that Mo needs to come in in the 9th. If not the 8th.
Why is Andy out already?
Does this team have an allergic reaction to complete games?
Manny has said on numerous occasions while in Toronto that he was a Blue Jays fan growing up in the Dominican. He idolized George Bell and Tony Fernandez. The Jays also had a baseball school that Manny attended in the DR.
Don’t believe in censorship, SF Nick.
I don’t like it and I defy the impulse when I see it.
If you’re civil in a public forum as far as I’m concerned self-expression is the paramount value.
If you don’t like its subject, my man, scroll down.
“If JP gets fired, what does that say about Cashman?”
He dealt with a lot more injuries and besides he has had 4 rings and 12 postseasons in his tenure?
How do you like that JB, well then I stand corrected, my apologies. I guess we didn’t invade Canada after all.
“Point taken and given your screen name, you should know. Officially retiring the pseudopolitics.
”
God Bless Doreen! And now no religion either!!!!
(i am just trying to keep the train from jumping the tracks in a bad way which you clearly get – thanks!)
nice job Bruney
“Manny is also a possibility because he was a Blue Jays fan growing up.”
What about Adam Dunn? LOL!
Sorry, I couldn’t resist.
That guy has weird eyebrows, TK.
And what’s up with the microphone headset? Like they don’t have a boom operator on the set?
If its made in Germany it must be reliable? Like Volkswagens and Octoberfest? Yeah, okay Mr ShamWOW.
I thought that Pettitte would stay in longer but before we jump on Girardi for this one we should wait until the post game and see why Pettitte came out. He may have asked to come out.
Funny you compared Matsui to Sanford… On the radio, Susan Waldman commented on how well Matsui ran to 2nd base lol
You don’t think the Blue Jays have had injuries the past two years? Are you kidding me?
Nice to see more than 2 runs tonight.
Well, if we are allergic to complete games, make sure no one tells CC that. He is one of the Kings of complete games….at least in the NL.
*Volkswagon.. I meant
I have to agree about scrolling down. There have been times when some of the guys here have had political discussions, talked about terrorism and Iraq, movies they really like, etc. Nobody tells them to stop even though it isn’t baseball.
My rule always is not to tell other people what subjects they should and should not discuss but rather scroll on by things that don’t interest me.
“Why is Andy out already?”
Well…he has been dealing with some elbow pain. Maybe Girardi decided to try and save some stress on his arm? I guess?
The difference between the Yanks and Blue Jays injuries is that you get Xavier Nady and we get Kevin Mench.
“Nice to see more than 2 runs tonight.”
Yes and look at them with love because we might not get 2 runs tomorrow.
Fred Sanford one great TV funny men
Okay, is it me or is this game flying by?
“You don’t think the Blue Jays have had injuries the past two years? Are you kidding me?”
I’m talking about this year. This year. This year. This year. This year.
And I am in no position to suggest what GMs should stay and which should go. Nor do I think anybody else here is, ahem.
Kill-Schill, I’m quite sure that you’re intelligent enough to know that crying ‘censorship’ in this case is utterly contrived and phony. But if you have the courage of your convictions in that regard, by all means let Pete Abe know about your new policy and post away at your pleasure. I’m sure he’d appreciate the spirited civil disobedience.
In your second point you are quite correct, I should have kept quiet. Which I will return to doing now.
I’m going to take a polaroid of the scoreboard for posterity.
“The difference between the Yanks and Blue Jays injuries is that you get Xavier Nady and we get Kevin Mench.”
Your guy clearly isn’t as good at picking pockets as Cashman.
Flying by.
It might be an illusion borne out of Yankee runs and a Yankee lead, too though. But it feels the same to me.
Jeter has looked much better at the plate.
“If you’re civil in a public forum as far as I’m concerned self-expression is the paramount value.
If you don’t like its subject, my man, scroll down.”
Kill-Schill(ing) -
It is a baseball forum – if you want to post a political belief – whatever it is – please choose to do it in an appropriate forum.
People who come to yankees.lhblogs.com should (imho) find a place to talk about non-political things.
Obviously I can’t censor you – I’m just asking you.
Kill Schill(ing)
If Schilling retires will you be retiring your name?
“I’m going to take a polaroid of the scoreboard for posterity.”
Make sure you wait until the game is over. Who knows what can happen in the bottom of the 9th.
Blue Jays injuries this year:
Dustin McGowan
Shawn Marcum
Scott Rolen
Aaron Hill
Vernon Wells
Shannon Stewart
Should I go on? Why do you think we have Marco Scutaro, Kevin Mench, Joe Inglett etc starting?
“You don’t think the Blue Jays have had injuries the past two years? Are you kidding me?”
Nobody said that. However, it is also the case that, this year, 5 of the 9 starters Cash lined up going into the season have spent significant time on the DL — Wang, Hughes, Kennedy, Horne, and Karstens. Two more (Joba and Giese) have also had some DL time. Also, their starting catcher was useless from day one due to injury. Also, their starting DH has missed significant time.
“Jeter has looked much better at the plate.”
Yes, that strikeout notwithstanding.
He’s also running better. Maybe his assortment of injuries have started to heal.
Angel turned into Michael Kay and jinxed Jeter.
“You don’t think the Blue Jays have had injuries the past two years? Are you kidding me?”
Fair enough –
BTW JB – have you noted (the Blogfather) Pete’s comments about the wireless connectivity in the pressbox? That actually is ironic. (unlike nearly everything in that Morrisette song
)
I prefer the American trimmings; I need the grease for gravy and my pets LOVE the bacon.
“Shannon Stewart”
That’s like me citing Betemit’s hammy injury. As for Rolen…you should have EXPECTED him to go on the DL with his track record. Posada’s never been on the DL in his life, and ARod’s been on like…once. We lost Posada for the whole season, and ARod for three weeks. We lost our top starter to a freak injury, and our top three young starters not named Joba as well. All for long periods of time.
No Gardner in CF?
“Should I go on? Why do you think we have Marco Scutaro, Kevin Mench, Joe Inglett etc starting?”
Dude, you don’t really think that we have time to keep up with every other team’s injuries. We can’t even keep up with our own, at the pace they come at.
I’m sure that every time has had injuries of some degree, but I gotta tell ya – I think we’ve had it worse than anyone else. Just my opinion.
Whozat:
Dustin McGowan is out for the year.
Casey Jannsen is out for the year.
Jeremy Accardo is out of the year.
Aaron Hill is out for the year.
We have replaced these guys with nothing, but are only two games behind the Yankees. I am just saying the Riccardi will not be fired because he can point at the Yankees and say “look what I did with half the payroll”. He should be gone though!
damon needs the practice in cf
I know.. i’m sorry. Pat and Laura, I should have known better than to do that, lol. I thought I was safe to say that in the 9th – apparently not.
I’m gonna send myself to the cone of silence temporarily (where MK should be permanently) for that one.
Really wasn’t paying too much attention to the game tonight but realized it was the bottom of the 9th. Yankees have been playing very quick games lately….not very Yankee like.
I can’t understand Pete’s wireless problems. All the condos in the area rip off the signals from the stadium. Rogers hates it because they want people to actually pay for their internet.
“Yankees have been playing very quick games lately….not very Yankee like.”
I’m sure that they will return to their 4 hour marathons once they hook up with BOS.
Hey JB what’s the deal with the “Comfort Zone” ? Those seats a giveaway or something or do people actually get to buy those?
JB, so people are stealing the ‘free’ wireless from Rogers Centre? lol
We are apparently getting the good Brian Bruney tonight.
Thank God, we won a game!! Whenever we win, it feels like we haven’t won in weeks!
Well that was thoroughly enjoyable. What a welcome change. As usual, following the posts made following the game much more fun. Night all!
The Comfort Zone is a VIP zone. TD (Toronto-Dominion) Bank gives them away and I think you can win the seats for some games. Roberto Alomar sat there last night.
That does it. Halladay is god and pitches tomorrow so I will be there.
Honestly, its a real pleasure talking to you guys!
Let’s hope the sux go down!
Where are the Bruney haters 6 up 6 down
Terry, the thing I love about Canadian Bacon is that it isn’t salty. It’s actually ham but without a slimy texture or something! They use it in Egg McMuffins and I think it gives the greatest flavor!
I actually try to stay away from grease because it kills my stomach.
Hey All – sorry to be so AWOL (tonight we were celebrating a big raise
)…YAY a win…feels like it has been forever!!!
We won! Yay!
Great game. Hopefully the Yanks can get some offense tommorow
JB –
I mocked you for your early prediction which turned out to be correct – I’m not exactly sorry I was wrong.
Halladay will be like climbing Mt. Everest. Thanks for chatting tonight.
Nice game by the Yankees. Now they can still win the series tomorrow night.
See you all tomorrow.
Have a good night JB always nice when fans from other teams can contribute and be civil. Halladay is a machine.
The fat lady has a sock stuck in her mouth. Let’s keep it there.
Goodnight all!!
Go Yankees!!!!
latest yankee injury? stiff neck.
Obviously it is not free. There are condo right by the Rogers Centre and they can pick up the signals. Pete is a victim of Rogers trying to prevent people from getting free internet.
The Jays have had a lot of injuries as many as the Yanks.. The bottom line is our supposed stars are no longer stars that is the problem..
Veras, giese, ponson, robertson, etc. .they have played Ok.. IT is the guys who make the moolah who have not done there thing..
curious to see there excuses after Thurs. game is Halladay school’s them….
JB – I think you got a glimpse of the forum when people are actually pretty happy. I’m happy you got to see it that way because there is actually a lot of civility here when the Yankees aren’t getting hosed! You saw how tight things were in here last night. Believe me, and the other posters can attest to this, when things are going bad for the Yankees, Yankee posters are here killing each other!
So I really am glad that things went the way they did tonight just so you could really see the quality that truly exists here. Sometimes it just gets buried underneath the frustration.
And you are a very nice addition to the forum, so you were part of the formula.
Yay, a win.
Halladay vs Ponson – should be interesting.
I’m putting in an advance order for some run support.
Meanwhile, Hideki Matsui just doubled and ran to second like Fred G. Sanford.
rofl i laughed for like 5 minutes
Starting Pavano is the right thing to do. You know the Yankees don’t care if he gets shelled or not, nor do they care about his future. However, they sure as heck care about Phil’s future – good decision. If he pitches well on Friday, I still say give Phil another start after that and then bring him up if everything is ok.
“The bottom line is our supposed stars are no longer stars that is the problem..”
Of course – Jeter’s 3 for 5 with 2 RBI and 2 runs scored sucks because each ‘zillionaire’ is supposed to go 5-5 every night.
We won – back off.
Is it really true that there are whispers about ROR having a stiff neck?
did anybody notice how the capt. led the way tonite?
“I’m putting in an advance order for some run support.”
Angel –
Better get that sent overnight! 2-day shipping has been an issue
Trish,,,,sorry but that stuff McD’s uses is NOT Canadiaan Bacon….
so how stupid is it that Giambi is still batting 5th ? Does it REALLY take a Rocket Scientist to see that you need Nady in the 5 spot…and IF Giambi is in the lineup, that he needs to bat in the 7 or 8 spot because he REALLY is as UNCLUTCH as they come ? ( I know A-Rod is, too…but you move him from the 4 spot and he’ll lose ALL of his self-esteem and soon he’ll be dating Farrah Fawcett )
I ESP’ed it to them, TK.
Hopefully the Yankees aren’t wearing tinfoil hats.
“Trish,,,,sorry but that stuff McD’s uses is NOT Canadiaan Bacon….”
Sure – the next LIE you’re going to tell us is that ketchup isn’t a vegetable!
“Trish,,,,sorry but that stuff McD’s uses is NOT Canadiaan Bacon….”
Paul you very well may be right in the here and now. Actually I don’t get McMuffins a lot and can’t really tell you the last time I did, but I do remember the first time I ever got one, I asked them what kind of ham they used (meaning boiled or baked) and they told me it was Canadian bacon. Maybe different locations use different stuff? Or they used to use it and changed to something else.
I agree — get Giambi out of the 5th Spot. He is down to .246. My gosh. Nady, Matsui, and Cano should be in front of him for his final games as a Yank.
?
“Kill Schill(ing)
If Schilling retires will you be retiring your name?”
Excellent question, deserving of no less than a Talmudic response: “If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?”
Excellent choice of website, Paul.
O’s game only in the 6th. (still 11-5)
Geeze Louise.
Serrano’s got the disks!!!!
Serrano’s got the disks!!!!
Sidney sit down and have a cream soda or some god damn thing. Just don’t sit down tomorrow night.
Serrano’s got the disks!!!!
Thanks Trish.
BTW — if you want to know where the Yankees hang out when in Toronto here are the links. I have seen Jeter and Giambi at both of these places.
http://www.lot332.com/index1.html
http://www.branthouse.com/
I’m not sure if the papers just want Pavano to start so they can sell fish-wraps or what. But here’s the NYPost -
http://www.nypost.com/sports/sports.htm
the ROR even looks odd in a hat w/o a dead fish on it. (imho)
so who is going to pitch on sat?
carl pavano or carl pavano jr?
Wow, that Representative from Ohio died. Rest in peace Stephanie Tubb Jones.
That Talmudic response reminds me of a joke i heard in Canada last week:
If a husband is alone in the forest and give his opinion, is he still wrong?
(Maybe you had to be there – I’m not the best at re-telling – or telling jokes.)
it got a huge laugh, especially among the wives in the audience.
The answer is, “Of course!”
We may have our next shortstop circa 2011 – Garrison Lassiter. The dude is hitting .750. Actually in his first game since signing on the 15th and went 3-4.
Brett Marshall for good measure through an inning scoreless – I sure hope he makes us forget about Cole!
Naw…McD just has a bunch of untrained minimum wage workers. Canadian bacon costs anywhere from 8 to 18 dollars a pound…that would not be in the ball park for McD’s cost controls….do you know that when an old milker cow sprians a leg and can’t walk, the farmer shhots it, calls a truck and they take it to the meat plant where they grind this old dairy cow with a broken leg and a hole in it’s skull and gring it up for your quarter pounder?
The beef they use is cheap cheap.
lol Doreen!
And Phil Coke now with 7 scoreless outings in a row.
Some dude named Christian Garcia dominated his FSL game today. He too may allow us to forget about the player to be attending UCLA.
Thanks, TKinDC.
“We may have our next shortstop circa 2011 – Garrison Lassiter. The dude is hitting .750. Actually in his first game since signing on the 15th and went 3-4.
Brett Marshall for good measure through an inning scoreless – I sure hope he makes us forget about Cole!”
Some bloodless analysts might tell you that 5 days is too small a sample – to them I say HA!
(which is code for Gee, you have a point there)
Garcia was one of the TJ-recovering players we have in our farm system
And our future first baseman circa 2010 has another homerun. Brandon Laird and Austin Romine both have homers for Charleston, Montero has a 3 run double and about the whole lilneup is crushing the ball.
Paul, you have been outvoted 2,020 to 1. Sorry.
http://www.google.com/search?h.....2Bmcmuffin
shooting the bull
http://www.shorpy.com/files/im.....review.jpg
this is your quarter pounder
what ever happened to sanchez..
So they pushed Hughes’ start up and pushed Chase Wright back to Saturday.
Guess that changes the dynamic to either Chase or Carl for Saturday.
Dear Doreen,
Nice to have you back from vacation.
Sincerely,
Collateral Damage A.K.A. the Fans
TK and DC – Yes some humor after a Yankee win.
TK – the sample size is even smaller – 1 game. But certainly a nice debut.
DC – Garcia has actually gotten on track his last several starts in Tampa. If he can finish the season strong (and healthy) that would be a very positive step. By all accounts he has tremendous stuff, but is just trailing Pavano and ahead of Hughes in the all-DL team.
so, did Girardi say why Pettitte come out after 7 inning?
Hahaha. I liked that joke, Doreen.
“Speaking of that Sunday start, Hughes said that he was a little bit under the weather that night in Allentown, but said he learned a long time ago that it does no good to make excuses. Hard to say how much a little bit of a cold affected him, but it might account for some of his struggles.”
From Chad Jennings –
Maybe Hughes is the anti-IPK?
It’s really unsettling that these guys have larger diamond earrings than I do!
Mel -
Nice to be back – nice to be here during a winning game mostly.
Mel -
And thanks for providing the correct terminology – collateral, not peripheral!
jason – Let me backpedal quickly and ‘admit’ that being good in a first appearance beats the crud out of stinking it up!
So that said – thanks for the GOOD NEWS!
Garcia is still only 22. If he can stay healthy, he has some of the best stuff in the system, maybe just a tick below Joba stuff and is very advanced mechanically too (I read an article on PP where the Trenton pitching coach uses Garcia’s mechanics as a model for other young pitchers).
He’ll probably start in Trenton next year and could be in the majors by the end of next year.
While Garcia has shown to be injury prone, so has pretty much every pitcher in our farm this year lol.
Obviously not everyone to the extent of Hughes,
but guys like Kennedy, Joba, Betances, Heredia, Sanchez, Horne, Marquez, Aceves etc. have all been on the DL sometime this year.
Franky – Of you mean Humerto, then he is in the Gulf Coast League, which is a rehabilitation assignment. The Yankees seemed to have played a bit of a game to keep him there a month longer. He has been pitching an inning at a time and has done well recently (in terms of box score – I have not seen anything about the quality of his pitches). Hopefully next year he will be fully recovered from the surgery and back in SWB and the NY.
sorry, Trisha…none of those sites were the McD’s site and if you went to their site you would see that the meat they use is called Canadian-Style bacon…and that is not authentic canadian bacon. They paly games with the names….
The Red Sox have to be very concerned about their pitching.
“If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?â€
Yes. I answered your question now you answer mine.
thanks jason. i have not heard his name in a month
Franky – After one 30 day rehab he was then placed on the DL for a bit and got another 30 day rehab. Sounds like this was a roster trick to keep on rehab and not have to deal with a major league roster move.
Doreen
The bigger the paycheck the bigger the studs.
Hopefully Molina’s wife isn’t thinking that.
Music to my ears from SWB’s Jennings:
“Melancon, of course, went three up, three down.”
and also:
“Bad night for the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees, but Alfredo Aceves (left) finally lived up to the hype at this level with six strong innings and a season-high eight strikeouts.
“Good attitude, good pitches, good rhythm,” he said, and those words really did sum up his night.”
Austin Romine is going to be a stud.
LOL. MLB.com’s front page featuring the battle of the aces in the Padres/Backs game. At the end of the first San Diego was up 4-3.
Rays tie it up.
TB losing
LAA go ahead 5-4 .
Anderson unties it.
WhooHoo! Waipio beats Washington 9-4 to advance to the U.S. Finals of the Little League World Series.
Does K-Rod do a lay-out sukihara if he wins?
(i wouldn’t be upset if a meteor landed on his Benz)
Are the Rays the team of destiny this year?
I’m rooting for the Halos and the O’s – this is like an out-of body experience.
Mel
They just said Waipio is going to be on Baseball Tonight.
“Are the Rays the team of destiny this year?”
If they are, they have more than earned it as they toiled in the sewer of the league for a very long time. If it can’t be the Yankees, there’s nobody I want more than the Rays. Lord knows they would have earned it.
Things have become so bad in Baltimore that the Sox have Alex Cora warming up in the bullpen.
TK,
lol. It’s tsukahara. Most people do yurchenkos and arabians nowadays.
“Things have become so bad in Baltimore that the Sox have Alex Cora warming up in the bullpen.”
Ray –
Could you please ‘break down’ Clay’s performance tonight? Is he channeling his inner Ian Kennedy?
(yes, this is a hostile question!
)
Timlin threw 61 pitches in 2 innings. I guess Cora is due for an inning…lol
I’m kind of liking the K-Rod fist pump tonight.
“TK,
lol. It’s tsukahara. Most people do yurchenkos and arabians nowadays.”
That all sounds indecent to me!
Things have become so bad in Baltimore that the Sox have Alex Cora warming up in the bullpen.
Yikes!
Offensive explosion in Charleston -
Montero – 2-4, HR, double, 4 RBI
Romine – 3-3, 2 HRs, 3 RBI, walk
Laird – 1-2, HR, 2 RBI, 2 walks
Only the 6th inning.
I´m relieved Giradi explained Giambi´s glasses. I really thought G just totally lost it there for a while. I´m not sure how sunglasses makes a room look brighter but I´ll just take his word for it.
pat,
You’ve got to see these kids. There’s one kid Pikai Winchester who’s big, but the rest are tiny.
I heard that Saudi Arabia has kids that are 230 lbs. 6’1″. I think they’re using the military kids stationed there.
West Oahu won it a few years ago, so I hope these guys can win 2 more.
TK,
Throw in some pike, doubles, 2 1/2s, half-in, half-outs.
Ray -
Why don’t the Red Sox carry a long man like they had Taverez/Snyder to eat up innings in blowouts so they don’t have to waste guys like Okijima and Aardesma? Timlin is a 1 inning guy too, he cant throw 60 pitches.
mel
They are adorable. Their caps are bigger than they are and they were barely taller than the desk they were standing behind.
What’s the story with their coach’s scream?
S.A. really?
Fred G. Sanford
Great get by Peter A.
Sanford & Son…excellent 70′s sitcom…
starting Redd Foxx…
by the way…no quit in Jeter…gamer and Hall of Famer!!!
I don’t know what it is. Does it sound like a chant? The UH Warrior football does the Haka (Tongan warrior dance/chant) so maybe it’s something like that.
Is Marshall a starter or reliever?
mel –
I think the phrase – ‘I stuck that arabian’ would land me in jail in certain nations in the middle-east
TK
Is this sort of like treating you as a hostile witness??
Attempting to find any positives in Bucholtz’ outing tonight would be like “putting lipstick on a pig”.
Sox gave him I believe a four run lead and he promptly gave up five runs by multiple walks, hitting batters, and allowing all kinds of hits.
He certainly cannot not be depended upon right now anyways.
Good question Dave D. I will probably be subjected to ridicule in saying this but I didn’t think Tavarez was that bad last year. A number of times he filled in for the Sox much like Ponson has done you guys.
Sox bullpen and some of the starting rotation right now are very shaky at best.
Gammons makes the same facial expressions as Kermit the Frog.
“the Haka (Tongan warrior dance/chant)”
That is a touchy subject for (what is the right slang word?) Non-Islanders to do right?
(is it hoolies?)
mel
Not a chant just a yell. The kids were asked what gets them fired up before a game and they said their coach’s yell so they made him do it.
TK
The Arabian joke made me laugh.
The end of questionable long-ball calls as we knew them.
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/m.....id=4174210
Rays and Sux lose.
ray –
Welcome to our Hughes/IPKennedy/Joba world.
Actually – you guys are ahead of us w/ Lester, Buck, Hansen, et al.
Is Theo still the toast of the Town? Is Luchino heading for LA? Give us some dirt?
With all due respect to the way Ponson has pitched for us, if he beats Roy Halladay tomorrow it will re-instill a lot of faith that seems to have been lost over the last few weeks. At least in this fan´s opinion.
The Mets went for the Reyes Trifecta by signing Al Reyes.
Anybody, is Brett marshall a starter or reliever (or at least what are the Yankees planning for his future?)?
“The end of questionable long-ball calls as we knew them.”
Can they do it retro-actively? Somebody owes Alex a HR.
“Anybody, is Brett marshall a starter or reliever (or at least what are the Yankees planning for his future?)?”
Starter – Rice (an excellent college program) had him as a 1 or 2 starter.
If you can track down the video story about him on YouTube it is worth it – very inspiring!
TK
Give you some dirt huh? I have to ask, is that a hostile request?? Just harassing you a little TK.
I don’t live right in Boston so I don’t always have a good pulse on how people are feeling about Theo and the rest of Sox front office.
I will look through the papers tomorrow morning and see what I can find. If I find some “dirt” I will send it your way TK, deal?
Anybody, is Brett marshall a starter or reliever (or at least what are the Yankees planning for his future?)?
The guy once threw 146 pitches in a in a 15 IP H.S. playoff game. I’m guessing SP on this guy
thx TK, is that 1 or 2 starter a potential in the majors or just at college?
thx to you to Brandon.
LOOK PETE I KNOW YOU GET BUSY QUITE OFTEN BUT WE WILL NEED MORE UPDATES SOON. I THINK THE YANKEES JUST NEED TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO WIN EACH AND EVERY SERIES THEY PLAY. THEY HAVE THE NEXT GAME AGAINST TORONTO, AND THEN AGAINST BALTIMORE. YOU HAVE TO WIN THAT SERIES AGAINST BALTIMORE, OR SWEEP. ITS OUR ONLY HOPE. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK PETE. YOU’S BE MY HERO DAWG!!!!!!!!
THX AGAIN HOMIE G SLICE
-TACKER
ray –
I think of you as our ‘Ethan Allen’ – and a very valuable source. Of course it is a hostile request!?!?!
Let’s make a deal – with Brian Ca$hman’s job up in the air this off-season – I’ll be happy to reciprocate with any NY scuttlebutt I collect and send it along to you my (sad, misguided, lost, misbegotten, misdirected, confused, yet all-around decent) friend!
TK
NESN just reported that Sox are sending Bucholtz down to double AA, Portland Seadogs!!
thx to you to Brandon.
No problem I just got in 20 minutes ago. My friend left me text messages about how Girardi finally put this team to play small ball. I’m waiting to see the highlights. I hear vista roof hit a HR, glad to see he remembers how to hit something other than a single.
Fred G Sanford … LOL
Yes I’m old enough to rely on just my memory to laugh at the thought of Matsui running (more like an old geezer crippin’) like that.
No need to Google it here.
“TK
NESN just reported that Sox are sending Bucholtz down to double AA, Portland Seadogs!!”
It will be fine – I mean you have Frazier Crane (giggle, giggle) check that – Paul Byrd!
I live in Boston and have heard some talk about Lucchino out to LA to reunite with Charles Steinberg.
People still love Theo, but like all GMs he has had some good and some bad deals. And he still can’t buy himself a legit shortshop.
People are worrying about the pitching, particularly with Beckett being pushed back because of tingling in his arm and fingers.
The pen has not been good.
Bucholz has caught whatever Hughes and Kennedy have. Just goes to show how hard it is for a pitcher to make it immediately. I mean Bucholz and Joba were 1-2 in some order in just about everyone’s mind for pitching prospects.
Generally though, I think the “Nation”tm is not feeling too worried as they think either or both the Yankees are done and Tampa will fall with there impossible Sept. schedule.
All that said, I am a die hard and lifelong Yankee fan.
TK,
Frazier Crane?????? That was harsh….but I will grant you very funny!
Jason,
I agree with most of what you have written. However, I realize it is a small sample size, but so far I think most people have been very happy with Lowrie at shortshop.
Anyone else sad to think of Redd Foxx? How ironic he died from the “big one”?
Um, Tacker, d00d, Caps Lock off, please.
And I have a feeling their trying to win series. I don’t think they’re not doing so on purpose.
The kid can hit. However, I have not heard many say that he will be good enough defensively to stick at shortstop.
As a side point, it is very interesting in comparing the two teams development on the farm.
Pitching has not been easy for either team to develop. For every Joba and Lester – there has been a Hansen, Bucholz, Delcarmen, Kennedy, Hughes. People need to realize it can take years for a pitcher to fully develop and reach his potential.
But the position prospects that the Red Sox bring up seem to meet with more immediate success – Ellsbury (who is way off this year), Lowrie, Pedroia (after a miserable start). Hopefully in about two years when the entire Chareston team is ready to hit NY they will have similar success. I think the jump is easier for hitters – or is at least a little more reliable.
AZ Four, The Yankees need to move Jesus from the catcher position. It’s time to give him the 1B mitt. It’s not his fault it’s the fact that Higashioka doesn’t look over matched in GCL and Romine has found his stride, meanwhile Cervelli is just not looking overmatched at all in AA.
How about Brandon Laird 19 HR in yr. one of pro ball.
Tacker,
You don’t know how good you have it with this blog. There are updates around the clock.
I don’t know of another baseball blog that even comes close to the number of updates this blog has every day. Some well known blogs go several days without updates.
Jason,
I may be bias about Lowrie, since for me it has been good to see anyone at short besides Lugo.
I would like to apologize to my blog compadres – soaking wet women in bikinis seems to be playing something on TV –
wow
Brandon – Today is a good day to follow the farm.
I really hope Garcia is putting it together and can stay healthy. He has given up one run or fewer in each of his starts in August (starting at 3 innings and moving up as he builds arm strength).
Watchind The Dodgers and Rockies game, Francis has some though luck.
Oh did i say how good No 99 looks in dodger blue….
Exactly Brandon. They need to move him to full-time 1B next year in Tampa. I understand he wants to stay at C and is motivated and willing to put in the work, but he is all about his bat. He has a special bat. A guy who can hit in the middle of the order. We need to find the best way to maximize his bat. Why cut his career short and hinder his offensive potential by keeping a guy that big behind the plate? Eventually the wear and tear will take away from his strength.
Let Romine be the catcher… if all goes well, he will hit 20+ HRs/.280-.300 from that spot with plus defense. He has a perfect catcher’s frame and is very athletic. Same holds true for guys like Cervelli, Higoshoki, etc. though they don’t have the offensive upside of Romine.
Not to mention, we don’t have any legit 1B prospects. Miranda is nice but he isin’t an everyday player on a good team. Laird’s best position is 3rd too according to him. If you move Montero to 1st, he can fly through the system and really maximize his offensive potential. Nobody is saying that Montero can’t be a good catcher, but with the depth at the position already and the bat potential of Montero at 1st is a no brainer.
It is inevitable.
jason he really should have been shut down but I’m guessing they want to see a couple of things w/ him. Nardi from what I heard is working extensively w/ him, his work ethic has changed he had tired shoulder most of this season, next year if he is still here remember Rule 5 anyway if he is still here hopefully he finds himself in AA.
Will Garcia and Hughes go to winterball?
Check it out!
http://tinyurl.com/5z4x5m
LOS ANGELES—Dodgers left-fielder Manny Ramirez, sent to Los Angeles in a three-team trade two weeks ago, said Monday that he “really likes” the Red Sox’s new blue-and-white uniforms. “I like it more than the red,” Ramirez told reporters following the Dodgers’ 8-6 win over the
Phillies Monday. “I’m also happy that they shortened the Green Monster, and painted it blue, because that wall was too tall before. And I’m really enjoying the easy schedule we’ve been playing lately.” Although Ramirez admitted he didn’t appreciate having “that vampire from the Yankees” [Joe Torre] hanging out in the dugout all the time,
he did say that he “completely approves of David Ortiz’s new mustache” while gesturing towards Dodgers second baseman Jeff Kent.
My bet is Betances, Garcia, Brackman and Wilkins De La Rosa will
Brandon – I can’t imagine they don’t protect him. He is supposed to have among the best pure stuff in the system with outstanding mechanics.
Hoepfully his head is on straight and he can do the trenton Scranton double next year.
AZ – I remember reading somewhere that Higoshoki (I will probably need to learn how to spell his name) had an excellent bat and is certainly in romine’s league.
First base prospects after Miranda (who is having a very nice year) can be in rough order Laird, Suttle, Montero – although all play another position at this point. Problem for Laird and Suttle some future hall of famer is currently manning their position and has a multi-year deal.
Brandon – That is some kick-*** pitching foursome. Imagine if just two of those guys can reach their ceiling. I will be greedy and plan for three and hope for four. But some of those guys with CC, Wang, Joba and Hughes (yes he will be back and better than ever next year) will be mighty fine.
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