Comments on: The trade that hurt both teams http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/ A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:06:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: BB http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/comment-page-4/#comment-506529 BB Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:40:20 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/#comment-506529 "The trade that hurt both teams" Agree without doubt.The deal seem not through a careful consideration. “The trade that hurt both teams”

Agree without doubt.The deal seem not through a careful consideration.

]]> By: autograph seeker http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/comment-page-4/#comment-506156 autograph seeker Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:30:46 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/#comment-506156 you are kidding, right? you are not serious by suggesting it hurt us, right? if so, then WOW... you are kidding, right? you are not serious by suggesting it hurt us, right? if so, then WOW…

]]> By: Jeremy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/comment-page-4/#comment-505963 Jeremy Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:07:50 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/#comment-505963 BG, Thanks. I think the Yankees will offer Pudge arbitration because they will expect him to decline. A catcher at Pudge's age has to get a multi-year deal, and some team will give it to him. He can't gamble on a one-year contract. BG,

Thanks. I think the Yankees will offer Pudge arbitration because they will expect him to decline. A catcher at Pudge’s age has to get a multi-year deal, and some team will give it to him. He can’t gamble on a one-year contract.

]]> By: asierra http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/comment-page-4/#comment-505589 asierra Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:22:24 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/#comment-505589 i dk about the tigers, but the yankees would be winning if they just get hits in key situations like arod and giambi last night striking out so many freaking times and arod like a dummy trying to run to second yesterday THEY NEED TO THINK i dk about the tigers, but the yankees would be winning if they just get hits in key situations like arod and giambi last night striking out so many freaking times and arod like a dummy trying to run to second yesterday THEY NEED TO THINK

]]> By: Jersey Jim http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/comment-page-4/#comment-505587 Jersey Jim Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:20:59 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/#comment-505587 The only way Pudge Rodriquez will be back is if Jorge's shoulder surgery isn't a complete success. If all goes according to plan, Jorge would catch 90-100 games with Molina handling the rest. Also in the picture is Frankie Cervelli who will be closely monitored as a backup next year until Jesus Montero bursts on the scene. The only way Pudge Rodriquez will be back is if Jorge’s shoulder surgery isn’t a complete success.
If all goes according to plan, Jorge would catch 90-100 games with Molina handling the rest.
Also in the picture is Frankie Cervelli who will be closely monitored as a backup next year until Jesus Montero bursts on the scene.

]]> By: BG http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/comment-page-4/#comment-505486 BG Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:08:11 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/#comment-505486 "Pete writes this after Pudge catches Rasner in one of his best starts of the season. Sometimes I think Pete writes “analysis” on this site just to get a rise out of people. Like the 8 for 35 comment. I’m sure he knows that 35 ABs is a meaningless sample size. If Pudge had 4 more bloop singles, he would be about a .333 hitter as a Yankee. Acquiring Pudge also prevents the Yankees from having to overwork Molina. Plus there’s a good chance that Pudge’s Type A status will net the Yankees two draft picks next season." This is the right answer. Changing teams as a catcher mid-season is extremely difficult. Anyone assuming that a smooth transition was automatic was deluding themselves. Pudge by all accounts is a hard worker with the right attitude. Even if the production hasn't been there, he's at least more of a threat at the back of the lineup then they've had and 35 AB's is an extremely small sample size. It was a reasonable gamble on Cashman's part given that almost everyone would say that Molina couldn't handle the workload of catching every day. The only question i have about the above post is that I thought that you have to offer arbitration in order to receive draft picks as compensation for losing a type "A" free agent. I doubt that the yankees offer Pudge arbitration unless he's agreed to not accept it. “Pete writes this after Pudge catches Rasner in one of his best starts of the season.

Sometimes I think Pete writes “analysis” on this site just to get a rise out of people. Like the 8 for 35 comment. I’m sure he knows that 35 ABs is a meaningless sample size. If Pudge had 4 more bloop singles, he would be about a .333 hitter as a Yankee.

Acquiring Pudge also prevents the Yankees from having to overwork Molina. Plus there’s a good chance that Pudge’s Type A status will net the Yankees two draft picks next season.”

This is the right answer. Changing teams as a catcher mid-season is extremely difficult. Anyone assuming that a smooth transition was automatic was deluding themselves. Pudge by all accounts is a hard worker with the right attitude. Even if the production hasn’t been there, he’s at least more of a threat at the back of the lineup then they’ve had and 35 AB’s is an extremely small sample size. It was a reasonable gamble on Cashman’s part given that almost everyone would say that Molina couldn’t handle the workload of catching every day.

The only question i have about the above post is that I thought that you have to offer arbitration in order to receive draft picks as compensation for losing a type “A” free agent. I doubt that the yankees offer Pudge arbitration unless he’s agreed to not accept it.

]]> By: Coach http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/comment-page-4/#comment-505477 Coach Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:59:11 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/#comment-505477 Pat... Effort breeds success. One ALWAYS goes with the other. When you don't give effort, succeeding becomes nearly impossible. Try some time when you are tossing knives in the air. Give a little effort trying to catch them correctly and see how many times you get cut!!! Pat… Effort breeds success. One ALWAYS goes with the other. When you don’t give effort, succeeding becomes nearly impossible.

Try some time when you are tossing knives in the air. Give a little effort trying to catch them correctly and see how many times you get cut!!!

]]> By: EN http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/comment-page-4/#comment-505468 EN Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:55:28 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/#comment-505468 While the LA Dodgers just picked up Greg Maddux Cashman announces that Carl(MIA)Pavano will pitch on Saturday! Will someone Please fire Cashman already! Please don't bring up the 1996-2000 run, this is 2008! Most of us would be canned if we had 2 bad years in a row! Is he related to the Steinbrenners or are they Just Dumb?Enough Already! While the LA Dodgers just picked up Greg Maddux Cashman
announces that Carl(MIA)Pavano will pitch on Saturday!
Will someone Please fire Cashman already!
Please don’t bring up the 1996-2000 run, this is 2008!
Most of us would be canned if we had 2 bad years in a row!
Is he related to the Steinbrenners or are they Just Dumb?Enough Already!

]]> By: Terry #1 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/comment-page-4/#comment-505445 Terry #1 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:37:24 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/#comment-505445 Bottom line, it isn't that Nady isn't any good at 1B. It's that Nady is TOO good to be wasted at 1B. Bottom line, it isn’t that Nady isn’t any good at 1B.

It’s that Nady is TOO good to be wasted at 1B.

]]> By: Terry #1 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/comment-page-4/#comment-505442 Terry #1 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:35:10 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/20/the-trade-that-hurt-both-teams/#comment-505442 Phelps Phan said <blockquote>Doubt Nady’s any good at 1B, or else someone would start him there again.<blockquote> Not quite. First base is a soft landing spot for a good hitter. Placing a defensively below-average player there won't make too much of a difference. Left field, especially in Yankee Stadium, is where defense makes a big impact on the progression of the game. Placing a sub-par player in THAT position will hurt you. Damon's a good guy and I like him. But I had a sick feeling in my stomach every time a runner was on second or first and the other team hit a single or a double in his direction. Making the other team get an "extra" base hit by holding the runner at third (even if no OF assist is recorded) to score a run makes a huge difference in the game. Nady has good range, good instincts/reflexes, and an accurate arm. You don't waste his defense at 1B. Phelps Phan said

Doubt Nady’s any good at 1B, or else someone would start him there again.

Not quite.

First base is a soft landing spot for a good hitter. Placing a defensively below-average player there won’t make too much of a difference.

Left field, especially in Yankee Stadium, is where defense makes a big impact on the progression of the game. Placing a sub-par player in THAT position will hurt you.

Damon’s a good guy and I like him. But I had a sick feeling in my stomach every time a runner was on second or first and the other team hit a single or a double in his direction. Making the other team get an “extra” base hit by holding the runner at third (even if no OF assist is recorded) to score a run makes a huge difference in the game.

Nady has good range, good instincts/reflexes, and an accurate arm. You don’t waste his defense at 1B.

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