Game 128: Yankees at Orioles
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 22, 2008 
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YANKEES (67-60)
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Nady LF
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Molina C
Mussina RHP
ORIOLES (61-65)
Roberts 2B
Markakis RF
Mora 3B
Huff DH
Millar 1B
Scott LF
Hernandez C
Payton CF
Castro SS
Liz RHP
Mike Mussina (16-7, 3.35) vs. the Baltimore hitters.
Radhames Liz (4-3, 7.47) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees are 5-7 against the last-placed Orioles this season, getting outscored 69-58. … The Yankees start the day 10.5 games back in the division and six games behind in the wild card.
NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH: The Yankees are 24-24 against teams in their division.
MILESTONE ON DECK: Derek Jeter has 2,499 hits. He is one shy of becoming the 88th player in history with 2,500. Only five active players have more hits: Ken Griffey Jr. (2,657), Omar Vizquel (2,634), Gary Sheffield (2,594), Pudge Rodriguez (2,593) and Luis Gonzalez (2,577).
MOOSE MANIA: Mike Mussina (16-7) has not won 17 games since 2003. … He has 266 wins in his career. He is tied with Bob Feller and Eppa Rixey for 35th place in history. Jim Palmer is in 34th place with 268 wins.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 5:47 p.m.: OK, here is what we have in terms of baseball. Carl Pavano feels good and can throw around 100 pitches tomorrow. … Joe Girardi said the Yankees would have “to be creative” in how they build up Joba’s arm strength. That’s secret code for he probably will be used out of the bullpen for a while. … Dan Giese is here and threw for the first time since being placed on the DL on Aug. 15.
Here’s the important stuff. I want to tell you about four really good guys.
Johnny Damon, Billy Traber and Dave Robertson: The team got to its hotel in Baltimore around 2:30 a.m. At 9 a.m., those three guys were in a car headed to the Walter Reed Medical Center in Washington to spend time with wounded vets.
Johnny, as many of you know, is a spokesman for the Wounded Warrior Project.
I only wish that I could report that all 25 players made that trip. But good for Johnny, Billy and Dave for doing so.
Bobby Abreu: The Venezuelan Little League team lost in the Little League World Series in Williamsport yesterday. Bobby arranged for their entire travel party to attend the game tonight. He rented a bus to bring them here, paid for their tickets and dinner, the whole deal. The kids were on the field for batting practice and Bobby is bringing over all the guys to meet them.
Bobby is one of the most popular players ever from Venezuela and the kids were wide-eyed to meet him. What a cool thing for him to have done, it has to be a thrill of a lifetime for those kids.
UPDATE, 7:15 p.m.: There you have it, 2,500 hits for Derek Jeter. Then A-Rod and Giambi combined to bring a potentially big inning to a grinding halt for what seems like the 2,500th time this season.
UPDATE, 7:58 p.m.: Why do the Yankees insist on trying to have Bobby Abreu steal bases? He’s 14 of 24. That’s not good. This isn’t that hard. Tell him not to run.
UPDATE, 8:17 p.m.: More base-running blunders as Giambi tries to take second on an outfielder (Nick Markakis) with 13 assists. He now leads the league with 14.
Somebody needs to figure out how many outs the Yankees have run into on the bases. I bet it’s at least 40 more than last season.
UPDATE, 8:33 p.m.: Wow, Cano hit a bomb there. 425 feet onto Eutaw Street. Then Molina snuck one over the wall in left. That’s eight times this season the Yankees have gone back-to-back.
3-3 and the Moose is back in it.
UPDATE, 8:55 p.m.: The Moose has settled down a bit and retired five straight. He’s usually pretty good at managing those nights when he doesn’t have his best stuff.
Of course he needs his teammates to score a run or two, which is a tricky proposition.
UPDATE, 9:36 p.m.: Hey, A-Rod got a double. 2nd and 3rd and nobody out down by a run. They can’t screw this up, can they?
UPDATE, 9:41 p.m.: Somebody named Kameron Mickolio is pitching for the Orioles. I found his photo on line:
UPDATE, 9:42 p.m.: And Cornholio throws a wild pitch, the game is tied. Are you threatening me?
UPDATE, 9:43 p.m.: A single by Nady off Cornholio gives the Yankees the lead. What a game. Moose is off the hook. Meanwhile Mo hasn’t pitched in five days.
UPDATE, 10:01 p.m.: OK, Mariano Rivera in for a four-out save. Hopefully somebody told him that this is in fact a save situation.
Man, Damaso Marte is shaky. Mora hit a rocket to third and then he hits Huff.
Pete,
All the Natty Bohs are on me tonight.
I wouldn’t expect anything different, thout maybe Hideki deserved to move to 7, Oh well live by the sword, die by the sword.
Giambi has pics of GI Joe that’s it, it has to be and WTF Damon hasn’t missed enough plays at CF already. Loss.
Sorry, thought…my finger’s aren’t working..
It is obvious that there is a man-crush going on between Girardi and Giambi. To have that guy still in the 5th spot is criminal. I have been one of Girardi’s big supporters, but at this point, I just dont know how he can be defended on this point.
Would love to see Moose go more than three innings against the birds.
Sorry again, I thought Hideki deserved to move to 5th..
I generally don’t complain about the lineup, but I’m starting to get really irritated with Giambi in the 5-hole. We don’t need to appease a man who’s going to collect $5M in 2 months.
They are saying they haven’t given up, but action’s speak louder than words.
I think Moose will pitch good, I just hope we support him with some runs..We should it’s not a power pitcher we are facing..
Joe must have liked Jason’s approach last night, and he must still remember that grand slam, because the Giambino is rolling at a solid .212 clip this month, and he hasn’t gotten any extra base hits the entire month save for homers. He’s a really multi-faceted, ideal #5 hitter, though.
I never thought I’d see the day when I was looking forward more to a Moose start than watching the rest of this team…how the times have changed.
Andrew, We obviously have all missed those signs. How ignorant of us to not be on the same wavelength as GI Joe.
M0o0o0o0o0o0o0o000o0o0o0o00oo0o00oo0o0o0SE!
Rebecca,
Is that really you? That doesn’t sound like you. I think this team is grating everyone’s nerves.
I found this article the other day. Thought it would interest you.
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/.....id=3539481
Funny Pete’s stats, show Giambi is 0 for 2 with 2 k’s against this guy, like I said actions speak louder than words.
In case Joe doesn’t have a big enough sample size with just August, The Giambino, the King of the Golden Thong, The Mustachioed Mauler, is mashing at an amazing .224 clip since the calendar flipped to July (that’s 26/116 with 1 double, 7 home runs, 36 Ks). Don’t know if Girardi realized that July was almost 2 months ago, since he’s been so busy keeping the faith in “the guys in the room”.
Has anyone called the Yanks dead today? Did anyone catch what Fatcessa had to say.
So all-in-all, save for a decent month and a half, Giambi has been horrid this year, correct? Way to earn that $21 million. Another heist of epic proportions…one of the others will be on display tomorrow.
I would love to see Miranda get a shot up here just to take some swings. He can’t really hit worse than giambi or play defense worse so it isn’t really a downgrade. At least, in Sept Miranda would be up/
The Big G loves Baltimore. The Warehouse shots he hit in June will not be forgotten by the O’s staff, so its time for more fun. He’ll come alive here. Go Stache’!
damon in center? o boy this is going to be another roller coaster.
mel: It is me.
Moose has been amazing this year, and one of the best reasons to watch the Yankees.
That said, his numbers this season against Baltimore aren’t very good.
heres some bright news for all of us. the sox no longer lead the wild card. the twins do!!!!!!
Is it safe to say that Jeter is one of the greatest hitters to ever play the game? Or am I Jeterating?
PETE COME OVER. I LIVE A BLOCK FROM THE STADIUM!
I’m also sitting right under the press box on Sunday. I’ll probably harass you. Just kidding.
francessa said if we don’t sweep baltimore, then its over. said we have to win 5 of 6. 3 vs. BAL, 2\3 vs. BOS
in his voice, he sounds resigned to the fact that there will be no playoffs this year.
j,
lol. That is some good news.
Best case scenario-we make the playoffs.
Otherwise, I’d prefer that one of the central teams take the WC.
And if I could be granted another little wish, it would be that the Rays not win a single playoff game.
They would be insufferable if they had playoff success.
Imagine if there are no Yankees or Red Sox in the playoffs? FOX will be irrate.
Good thing Molina’s in there. Yanks are 3-8 with Pudge “no pitching inside please” Rodriguez behind the plate.
The only thing I’m hopeful for this year…is ruining the Sox’s season. Knock them out…and I’m happy.
call me crazy or paranoid, but does anyone else suspect that all these teams put their best pitchers against the yankees even if it meant they had to come back on 3 or 4 days rest. and also dont they seem to roll over for other teams. while that is pure speculation, i think it could be the case.
Just win this game somehow
The fat lady will sing but it will have a diet coke in hand.
Mel,
Please don’t tell any of my fellow Sox fan friends, but I am kind of hoping that Moose wins tonight and makes it to 20. Should I put on the pinstripe boxer shorts?
Juan Miranda will be a September callup when the AAA playoffs are concluded.
This will be the start of seldom seeing Giambi in the lineup save for the final game he’ll play at the Stadium in a Yankee uniform on 9/21.
The Yankee will also want to get some looks with Nady at 1st base in the event he’s needed at the position on occasion in 2009.
I promise this is the last Giambi post I make, but his numbers against the 4 AL East teams combined are absolutely stellar this year. He has hit a whopping .208 (26 H/125 AB) in inter-division games, with 3 (3!) doubles, 6 long balls and an 18/36 BB/K ratio. 11 of those 26 hits did come against Baltimore, so I guess that’s a good sign going in to the weekend…but a bad sign since Boston is coming to town.
ray,
Did you ever take them off?
Hope Moose makes it to 20 also, but in order to have a real shot at it, it might be best to ask him to waive his NTC, that we’ll put him thru waivers and if we can work out a deal with an AL contender, we’ll make a trade, telling him we want him back as a FA.
j,
You’re not paranoid. Crappy teams also used to roll over when they played contenders if it hurt the Yankees.
If these teams played as hard against other teams as they do the Yankees, they’d have rings themselves.
It’ll be a cruel joke if Moose only gets to 19 wins. I thought he had a bunch of those, but I think he’s only had one 19-win season.
thats what annoys me. when teams are in “spolier” mode. play hard and you dont have to be a spolier.
the cruleset fate moose suffered was the almost prefect game. one strike to go and i couldnt believe that bloop fell in. heart-breaking.
J
I think it’s “paranoia.” Just about every pitcher we face has made us look pathetic at the plate. Tonights our best chance to take a game from the Orioles.
Question?
Do we want Abreu back on a 2-3 year contract? One year? Good-by?
Strange vibe at the Jays game last night. A lot of Yankee fans mixed in with Red Sox fans who where there to warm up for this weekend’s series against them. The Red Sox fans were starting chants that Blue Jays fans followed. In Toronto, we thought songs and chants were only for soccer. A Yankee fan from New York said to me during yesterday’s blowout while pointing at a guy decked out in Red Sox gear: “Save some of this crap for these guys”. I promise you that as Blue Jays fans we will do our best to cheer our team to beat the snot out of the Red Sox. We are 6-2 against them this year but this series is going to be tough. Our best bet is tonight, but I am not sure about the other games with Lester and Dice-K. There will be no Halladay and no Burnett in this series.
The Yankees can easily take two of three here and if you get anything from Pavano, a sweep is a possibility. I saw Liz at the Rogers Centre earlier this year and don’t know why he is considered a prospect.
Yankee Trader,
I used to be in the Abreu back for a year or two camp, but I’m tiring of his defense. And where did all the BB’s go?
Someone pointed out the other day that we’re just not a good defensive team. I’d like to see that change.
This weekend will be as close as I’ve come to the ledge all year if Millar continues to have his way with Yankee pitching.
Put Moose on waivers!! Trade him to an AL contender so he can finally realize 20 wins, then resign him as FA. We’d be doing him a favor!!
nah, they’ll live as long as the Cubs are still in it.
the good news. camden parks is a great hitters park, so that should give a slight boost to the yankes letahrgic offense.
Mel
I’m for letting Abreu become a FA. Let the Yankees do their homework, and try and trade for the next young outfielder, who could be a real asset, like Carlos Quentin turned out to be for the White Sox.
Since the Yanks look pretty dead, I actually wouldn’t mind a Cubbies/White Sox World Series. That would be kinda fun, I’d actually watch it.
Needless to say, anybody but the Red Sox. Can’t stand Pabelbon.
Keith
We could have put a claim on Millar and tried to trade for him, or allow the Orioles to dump his contract on us. He becomes a FA, so doubt it would have cost us much.
Still with Giambi 5th?
Stubborn much?!?
Yankees are only 2.5 games out of a protected draft pick in ’09. That’s encouraging.
It would be fun to knock the Red Sox out.
We should just tank this season now and wait to get Stephen Strasberg.
yeah Quentin steal trades happen every year. teams often trade the future league MVP for nothing…
that is called a lucky trade, AZ gave him away….
yanks are not making the playoffs but lack of effort is unnacceptable regardless.. win 3 this weekend they are still not making the playoffs but winning is fun anyway…
LOL Has anyone seen the Pavano returns promo on YES?
It says, after a year of waiting, Carl Pavano makes his return to the mound for the Yankees.
Have we been waiting?
Rooting for a Rays-Brewers WS.
If the Yankees don’t make it, I’m rooting for the Cubs all the way.
When I saw Giambi in the 5 hole tonight that was a sign.
A sign that I need to stop watching the games.
If Joe Girardi doesn’t care enough about this season to put that slab of meat in an important spot in the batting order where he will do nothing, then I don’t care enough to watch anymore.
It’s ludicrous. I just cannot understand why this organization is showing any deference or respect to Giambi who is putrid at the plate.
After that Miranda kid hit 2 more dingers last night is hitting with RISP I can’t imagine why this organization is still trotting out Giambi’s corpse.
Waive him already, pay his buyout and end this nonsense with him.
I’d rather see Betemit, Cody Ransom, Miranda, Shelley Duncan, Eric Duncan and Sandy Duncan than Jason Giambi.
He might be good for a quote, but he has helped more than most to sink this season.
You think Matsui taking Hallyday deep might be a sign to put him back up and move Giambi down.
Nah. Girardi is real out of the box thinker. He’s still sitting there in his office looking at the pathetic numbers telling himself, “these guys are due for a real offensive explosion”.
If they fired Girardi after the season I would have no problem with it at all.
why is giambi still in the 5th spot???
That Detroit-Tampa-Seattle-LA 10 game trip is going to be brutal. For an old team that will likely be playing for nothing and will be stunned, thats going to be a tough trip for the players.
No sense beating a dead horse, but for the record, put me in the swap Matsui & Giambi in the line-up crowd.
13 straight years in the playoffs despite developing an over-reliance on acquiring expensive FAs and older players, mishandling the farm, the draft and the prospects – I’d call that a pretty good run. Now they pay the piper.
It’s easy and fun to be a fan when the going is good, but you don’t always learn a lot of baseball. When the going is bad you see what doesn’t work, and then see all the big and little things they do to get the team right again. The Yankees are a first rate organization so they will do what it takes. It may take them only another year or it might take more. But this is chance to watch and learn as they go through this process.
they should move arod to the 2nd hole and jeter to lead off.
Need to trade either Matsui or Damon in the offseason. Posada will be doing a lot of DH’ing, so there isn’t room for two aging lefty hitters that can’t field.
****warning: I am about to complain about the lineup, so those of you who hate reading such comments might want to skip over this.
What….the….crap….IS DAMON DOING BACK IN CENTER, GATDAMMIT?!?!?!??! Why? What possible reason is there to play him at that position? It’s ridiculous all around – you’re embarrassing him by putting him in a position he can no longer play, you’re sticking it to Brett and sending him and the other youngsters the message that hustle and successful AB’s will only get you benched on this team, and worst of all, you’re hurting the defense behind Moose, who hardly deserves such machinations!!!!
And don’t even get me started on Giambi batting 5th, I barely have the energy to tackle this Damon in center nonsense. Did Brett run over Girardi’s cat with his car or something? Seriously WTF??? Let the kid play, it’s what he was brought up to do!!!!
Matsui really needs to be batting 5th…no sense in having a black hole behind A-Rod.
murph,
I agree. EVERY team has to do a little rebuilding from time to time. All those long, high dollar, veteran deals had to catch up eventually. This team is old. 2008 is the end of an era, and the ground work is already being laid for the future. 2009 is the real rebuilding, and 2010 could be the beginning of a new dynasty. We’ll see. For all their faults, at least we have ownership committed to winning and a GM with a plan. Not like Pittsburgh or Baltimore, who have been rudderless for some 15 years. Now that’s pain.
BBB — By the time September 1st rolls around and the Yankees head out on the road, I believe Gardner will see regular action in CF. I think they’re just putting on a brave face for another week or so. (Not that I agree with this approach)
Oh, and as far as the playoffs, my grandfather would roll in his grave if he knew I was saying this, but I’m rooting for the Dodgers (if they make it). I want Mattingly to get a ring, even if it is with the wrong team. Plus, the D’backs really annoy the crap out of me (yeah, still, and probably always) and I’d love to see the Dodgers send them to the golf course at the end of Sept. I think it is possible, too.
But I’d also enjoy seeing the Cubs win it all. It’s unamerican not to, and they have some of my favorite ex Yankees on the team. Plus, my Bergen county homie Mark DeRosa.
And in the AL, if the Twins can keep the Sux out of the playoffs then Go Twins all the way!
Folks, I don’t think we should be so sure about the Yankees improving quickly after this season. The AL East is now a different beast. Tampa Bay is going to be good for a while; Boston will continue to be competitive; and, if Toronto can upgrade its offense, their stellar pitching will keep them in the hunt. This isn’t the AL East circa 2003-2004.
I haven’t read a thing since about 2 p.m. – my daughter had a doctors appointment – BUT when I got home, my husband told me this:
Our personal trainer told him that he got a call from none other than Carl Pavano! Seems he was looking to do some work Wednesday and Thursday to make sure he was in top form on Saturday. As it happened, what Carl needed and how our trainer works didn’t mesh for this purpose. Also, my trainer is not a baseball fan, so he had to look up who Carl Pavano was.
Also, I just finished listening to Billy Connors (NYY pitching coach in Tampa) on Dibble and Kennedy Show on XM. He thinks Pavano is back. Said the only pitch he still needed to work on was his slider, but that his volume was good and that his out pitch (can’t remember what it was) is working for him. Said people may be very surprised by what they see Saturday. He said a lot of other things. He was asked about the decision to bring Hughes and Kennedy into the rotation in April, and whether he thought they were ready. He kind of answered in an indirect way: He said Cashman, Girardi and organizational people met and made the decision that those two were ready. I inferred from that that he may have disagreed with that decision, but he did not say that outright. He says Joba is basically one of a kind, old-school, confident and tough, does not want to get beaten. Fully supports Joba in the rotation. A great listen.
Now, to go back and read the last few scores of posts and Pete’s posts to catch up. Go Moose!
So, Pete, with Springsteen set to play at INVESCO Field this coming week before Barack Obama accepts the nomination, and giving the current state of the Yankees, are you thinking about ditching the Yanks for a plane ride to Denver?
Murphydog, well said on your post at 5:15. I agree and am even looking forward to the process (and it is a process) of our ascension back up to the top. I was born in ’81, so it’ll only be the second such ascent I’ve ever seen in my life, but this one will be even more satisfying than the last because I now know the taste of victory and how sweet it is to get back there.
I think a lot of people are down on our long-term plan because of the struggles some of the prospects have undergone this year. Personally I am still on board and think it’s a bit ridiculous to dismiss the youth at the first sign of a problem. I know we all hoped that this transition would happen overnight without any down years in between, but it’s hardly realistic to expect that, much less want to blow the whole thing up if it doesn’t happen immediately. Not to sound corny, but it’s not just the destination, it’s the journey.
I know it’s just me but I have a strange feeling that Pavano is going to pitch great.
ZMan777- Actually, that does make sense. I hope you’re right that it’s only a matter of time before he earns the full time starting nod. I just hate to see Damon out there tonight, for Moose’s sake. He is so close and I think every effort should be made to help him win games, including putting the best possible D behind him. This is not even a case of sacrificing Moose’s individual accomplishments for the greater good of the team, because right now, Moose’s outings pretty much are the sole greater good of the team.
I hope Pavano pitches the way he pitched in game 4 of the 2003 World Series.
Damon is in the top ten in the league in hitting.
Gardner can’t get around on average fastballs.
We made the choice to go with more offense. What’s so hard about that?
We don’t have the luxury of carrying Gardners weak bat.
murphydog -
Going through tough times makes the good times sweeter, and you take them less for granted, both in life and in baseball.
Oh, and also, about not expecting the Yankees to show vast improvement/take back the AL East right away, I agree it is a very competitive division thus making it harder for us to do that, but at the same time, if we have a rotation of CC/Wang/Joba/Moose/Andy next year, I have a hard time seeing how that wouldn’t be the class of the division, regardless of its very high level of competition.
I can’t wait for edwar to strike out kevin millar tonight. that is going to be so awesome.
“We don’t have the luxury of carrying Gardners weak bat.”
Right, because we’re in the heat of a pennant race…oh wait!
Pavano pitching tomorrow is a joke.
That is how little faith this organization has in Hughes and Kennedy. That they will run that disaster and quitter out there in must win games.
That is how bad Hughes must look in Scranton. I guess all the 99mph and consistent mid 90′s talk is just that. Talk.
The following was written by Buster Olney for a NY Times opinion piece that fits in with murphy’s pay the piper post:
“….the Yankees must go through a long reconstruction of the farm system before they have another dynasty. That means hanging onto young prospects, as former General Manager Gene Michael did in 1994, when he refused the orders of Steinbrenner and didn’t trade Williams.
But that may not be possible. Investing in the farm system now would mean spending less on big-league acquisitions, which might mean fewer victories in the immediate future — something that’s probably not acceptable in the manic and demanding world of the Yankees. Expect Steinbrenner to make changes in the off-season — just don’t expect the right ones.”
While relevant today (hopefully except the last line), it was written in October 2004.
I’ll probably take some barbs for this, but I’ve never been a big Mussina fan. I’m very happy to see him winning, for the Yankees sake, but until this year he would whine about anything under the sun after a loss. I never saw him as being a team-first type of guy.
@Jersey
No, we can’t carry Giambi’s weak bat. We can carry Gardner’s weak bat. Garnder bats 9th and his job is to play plus defense and lay down the occasional bunt. Giambi’s job is to protect Arod and drive in runs but he can’t do that. So the weak bat on the team is Giambi not Gardner, because at least when he isn’t hitting like Giambi he can at least play solid defense.
I really wouldn’t start assuming that CC Sabathia is signing here.
A lot of teams have money nowadays. And Cashman’s MO hasn’t been to overpay for anything besides his own guys.
You’re setting yourself up for a big fall when he uses the Yanks, Mets, and Sox to get a huge deal from a WC team.
Giambi has 35 games left in pinstripes. I can tolerate that, but nothing more.
Jersey — I agree with you on CC. He’s a crapshoot right now.
Giambi’s weak bat is relative and pretty absurd.
He has 24 homers and an OBP of 386. A slugginf of a solid .500. That’s not exactly weak.
He may not be lighting it up with RISP but who on the team is? Tough to call him a weak bat.
We’ve all seen what Gardner brings to the table. I think its a tad better to have Giambi’s bat in the lineup than Gardner. We had first rate D from CF for 100 games and what did it get us?
It doesn’t mean they don’t have faith in Hughes, it means they don’t think he is ready. Big difference.
Jersey — Giambi is clearly on the decline, though. Not only that, but with he and Damon both in the lineup, the Yankees have awful defense in RF, CF, and 1B. Perhaps the worst defense in the league at those 3 positions.
True, it’s hardly certain that CC will want to sign here. After the way he has dominated NL lineups since being traded, I imagine it might be pretty hard to voluntarily walk away from that. Plus, he can hit, and he likes hitting. The bright side is that the Dodgers reportedly are having lots of cash flow problems lately, so they may not be able to afford him, and we know Milwaukee can’t. So then where else would he go? SF? SD? Don’t see either one.
They don’t think Hughes is ready now but he was ready last yr and after spring training? What about all the glowing reports from his rehab starts??
It’s pretty suspect.
Even if he’s not “ready” isn’t he a better option at this point and more important long term than the Raja?
If they don’t think his stuff is ready or right shouldn’t they have realized this last November and added another arm so Hughes could have a full yr at AAA and made them force his way onto the team?
There’s no question Giambi is on the bad side of good. But at the moment if you are trying to win games with the best O you can put out there who’s best for the lineup?
Not much of an argument especially since they won’t quit nor should they.
“Not much of an argument especially since they won’t quit”
One could argue this point.
I just can not believe these words are comin out of my mouth but send Brett down to Triple AAA. SERIOUSLY! At least he gets the respect there to play everyday. And if he goes down he will mpost certainly play center field everyday. THIS IS HORRIBLE! I feel lied to by Joe Giradi. He said thatBrett was here to play center field. Look I understand Johnny Damon is a goo hitter but his defense looses games. Its time he figures out who he likes more. Johnny Or Matsui. Besides Matsui should not of been plauing every day. Sorry for my rant but this is disrespectfull for brett who came up and expected to play everyday.
You are going to see teams you never thought you would see in on Sabathia.
Aces don’t hit the open market anymore especially lefty aces.
I wouldn’t be shocked if the Angels got in on him. Moreno loves big time players and they got the money. Mariners have tons of money. I wouldn’t be shocked to see the Giants go for it even after being burnt on Zito. Lincecum, Cain, CC is wow.
Even though they play like they quit weeks ago, I don’t think you will see a white flag waved anytime soon.
All it takes is a 6 game win streak to get right back in it.
Not unheard of.
@Jersey 5:46
Is it really “tough” to call a guy hitting .184/.384/.429 in the month of August a weak bat?
Is it really “tough” to call a guy hitting .225/.376/.413 after the all-star break a weak bat?
In the same month of August Gardner is hitting .333/.375/.533. It’s a small sample size but at least he provides consistent solid defense in CF. Damon’s defense has already lost us 1 game and contributed to last night.
Since we all love RISP stats. Garnder is hitting .500 with runners on and 2 out, .400 with RISP and 1.000 with the bases loaded. He provides more to this team than Giambi does right now.
“All it takes is a 6 game win streak to get right back in it.”
Maybe, but you’ll need wins from Ponson, Rasner, and Pavano to get you to six. Long odds to say the least.
“the Yankees have awful defense in RF, CF, and 1B. Perhaps the worst defense in the league at those 3 positions”
And it’s especially laughable when your roster actually includes superior defenders at both of the 1st two positions, only they’re in LF and on the bench respectively. Hell, Nady would also probably be better in center or at 1b than Damon (who belongs in left) and Giambi (who belongs on the bench).
“If they don’t think his stuff is ready or right shouldn’t they have realized this last November and added another arm so Hughes could have a full yr at AAA and made them force his way onto the team?”
Yeah, they probably should have realized then that he wasn’t yet ready. Cashman bought into his own hype. Just because he erred doesn’t make Hughes a bust though.
brettisgod…YOU feel lied to ? YOU need to get a grip…go hang out with the other 16 year old girls and talk about the coolest guy at school and leave the adults to the big people talk, OK, honey ?
I’d re-sign Giambi to a short 2 yr/$33 million doller deal. I’d also sign Abreu to a 3 yr/$45 million doller with a team option for yr 4.
As far as the rotation goes I would like to see this rotation
Wang
Joba
Hughes
Kennedy
Rasner/Ponson/Giese
You have the two aces at the top followed by Hughes in the middle, Kennedy and Rasner/Ponson to eat innings at the bottom. No more big money deals.
I’d also like to see this bullpen Rivera-Melancon-Veras-Edwar-Britton-Patterson-Scott Srickland/Stephen Jackson.
I think we have a shot to do some special things with that roster. We will be young in the rotation and plenty of seasoned veterans in the lineup who know how to hit in big spots.
I agree with your points of view retro. These are two opposite players brett and jason. Jason is not good anymore and is old and slow. Brett is fast and young and stable.
Traber and Robertson visited the hospital…to see wounded vets. Though it is a great cause, one would think that they would see the hospital for their own medical reasons.
aj no offense, but I’m glad you aren’t the gm.
Im just sick of Joe Giradi’s lies. That is all.
Very cool of Bobay to do!!
brett grow up really. When do you go back to school?
AJ YANKS thank god you are not the GM. 2 year deal for 15 mill each for a pathetic DH who can only walk, K or homerun (rarely)? 3 more years to Abreu? Laughable
lol jennifer, I was just thinking, “man, it’s too bad this guy doesn’t work for the Red Sox.”
I do like his bullpen though, except the Stephen Jackson part. I would actually sign Toronto FA lefty Scott Downs if the price is reasonable. He’s a guy that you can insert into the 8th inning if Veras, or later, Melancon, struggle there, but he’s not a Gagne-type big name where it would be a red letter event if you took him out of that role. Plus he knows the AL East and seems much more versatile than Marte.
Jennifer,
Agreed on both counts. Classy of all 4 guys to do what they did.
Regardless of on-field performance, it’s nice to read about players doing the right thing.
And don’t even get me started on 4 young starters including IPK and Rasner? LOL
SJ, How would Jeter react if they asked him to move to the outfield for next season? If he would I could see the Yankees making trade for JJ Hardy of the Brewers who have Escobar ready to take over as their SS.
im glad the 1st priority is winning and not bringing little leaguers to the ball field
sigh
AJ — your proposal will leave the Yankees with about 72 wins next year. I think we should be a tad more ambitious.
Right, cause I’m sure Bobby wouldn’t have given a thought to the Venezualan little leaguers if the Yankees were 20 games over .500.
sigh, indeed.
Justin C:
Congrats, you’ve won the award for dumbest comment of the day. Go stand in traffic and wait for your prize.
Don’t worry, fellow fans, we have 9 more years of A-Rod in the clutch to look forward to.
“Congrats, you’ve won the award for dumbest comment of the day. Go stand in traffic and wait for your prize.”
Not so fast. The night is young.
Thats so rude. Excuse Bobby for wanting to help people who look up to him and admire him.
SJ44,
I’ve never posted before, but I read all the posts, and I respect your opinions, so I wanted to ask you something regarding Hughes and Kennedy. Do you think either one will be sent to play winter ball during the offseason/do you think it’s even being considered? I don’t know much at all about how winter leagues work, but seeing as how neither has enough innings under his belt to compete unrestricted at the ML level next year, as well as how both have a lot to work on mechanics-wise, I don’t see how having them play during the offseason could be a bad thing (except for the possibility of injury, but that’s always there). It would allow them to continue their work from this season while building strength for the next. I believe Kennedy pitched in the Hawaii League already; I don’t know about Hughes. Do you see this as a viable option? Or do you feel it’s just better to let them develop at AAA next year?
Why do we continue to reward Giambi’s horrific performance this season by continuing to bat him fifth in the lineup? Not only does it kill our offense, but it says that this team won’t hold you accountable if you perform at a sub-par level.
If you ask me, Nady has done far more to earn that important spot. Let him cleanup after Arod. Giambi should be benched, or hitting right above the catcher’s spot.
Johnny, Bobby, Billy and Dave are awesome.
And I can’t express how amazing it is that Johnny is doing what he is doing with the Wounded Warrior project.
I know former marines that won’t set foot inside Walter Reed…
Aish – You bring up a valid point about winter league, probably a good idea for Hughes b/c he hasn’t yielded many innings during 2007 and 2008.
Pete, thanks for bringing us the inside stuff, such as the news about the four good guys doing their good deeds today. I appreciate the insight you always provide!
i would like to thank my friends and family for everything
and special thanks to peter abraham for giving me the chance to accept such a grand award
thank you
I think Johnny goes to Walter Reed just about every time the Yankees are in Baltimore. Or if he doesn’t go, other guys from the team do. He is a super person.
thanks for the award pete
AJ YANKS – Why would the Yankees resign Giambi? Is this sarcasm? In addition to Giambi, we might as well sign / trade for Nomar, some other players who are DH’s playing the field to have the best DH All-Star & past their prime team.
SJ, this is in response to your posts in an earlier thread.
First, I think you are too negative on Hughes, but that’s just my opinion of course. He doesn’t have an out pitch? He doesn’t have good secondary pitches? Sounds like a non-prospect to me if we go by your scouting reports. Also, your scout friends may have thought Phil didn’t look good in his starts prior to last Sundays, but he basically has gotten mostly raves from people who have seen him. So, what we really have here is a difference of opinion. You are making it sound like a fact that Phil has looked mediocre when it’s not. Also, you almost completely discredit Phil’s September and October performance yet trash his performance earlier this year when, IMO, he was feeling the effects of his rib injury even before he went on the DL. You know I respect your opinion a great deal, so I admit I’m surprised at your negativity.
Also, while I think you bring up some interesting points as to how the Yankees can rectify what was a terrible season in all regards, I find that practically gutting the front office and/or doing a complete overhaul is an severe overreaction to one bad year.
Never use September numbers or one relief appearance in October to gauge a pitcher’s value, good or bad. Kennedy had even better September numbers, do we use that to hype Ian as well?
BRB standing in traffic and waiting for petes big ass to run me over…
Awesome job by Bobby, Johnny, Billy and Dave.
AJ – Please tell me that was a joke.
If this franchise applies the Hughes/Kennedy experiment again, we are so screwed. Those who do not learn from mistakes are doomed to repeat them.
And you actually want to re-sign Giambi?
I would hope Hal wants to win next year, not re-live the 80s with redundant mediocrity and re-enactment of the glory days.
i give credit to damon,traber, and dave but not bobby…
because i have other things to do rather than to take BP like have all of the players not take BP so they can meet a bunch of little leaguers
just curious would the twins ever do a liriano for hughes and melky swap?
Justin C., or Debbie Downer, these players are professionals so a little time away from BP won’t make a difference. It might give the players more of a perspective on how special they are to be where they are in life here in the US versus the conditions people live through everyday in Venezuela
wolf probabaly not because liariano is young and still is years from abritatrion.
pitcher with a 7.47 era= 2 hit shut out.
Nice start Johnny.
Now the hard part, getting him home.
2500! good job jetes
2500!!!!!!!!!!
johnny looks like he still wants to win!
wolfman, not likely. liriano is their best prospect.
“I only wish that I could report that all 25 players made that trip.”
nice gesture by the yankees that went, but there was nothing stopping any reporter that wanted to go too. i wonder how many of them went.
Jeter wasted no time there
cap’n jetes is the man
Congrats Jetes! 2,500 hits
Lots of class here tonight. Glad to be here.
How bout a Yankee win no matter what they do prior to the game for various charities/organizations.
Oh yeah, and good for Bobby, Johnny, Billy, and Dave. Wish more stars/celebs would be as generous.
Oh look! A run thingie. Nice
nice clutch hitting theor arod.
Hahaha way to keep the line moving Clutch-Rod…what a bum.
2500!!! Congrats Cap’n!!!
It’ll be a sweeter memory that the hit helped get a run in, even better if he scores and huge bonus if they win!
GO AROD! Haha
Oh look, A-Rod delivers in the “cluth” again. What a joke…
Has A-Rod completely shut it down?
and he’s getting $30 mil for hitting into double plays…
we could’ve sign 3 players at 10 mil each and get more production out of them than arod…
nice job arod and giambi. now why are they batting 4-5?
Jason Giambi right now is like Wilson Betemit now, but worse.
and he’s the $21 mil cheat we paid for getting strike out when we have people on base
lol at me thinking Jeter would score with A-Rod and Giambi at bat. Mr. death grip on the bat w/RISP and the worst no. 5 hitter in baseball themselves. Ha.
Giambi. I know I’m not the only one counting down the days till we don’t have to see him in a Yankee uniform again.
1st three reach and they score once. That’s soooo the ’08 Yankees. ):
Ugh, A-Rod and Jason.
I mean you cannot make this crap up.. all the people that want to move giambi in the order how about arod??
god this guys are so bad how can anyone defend them.. our 4th and 5th hitters cannot hit with men on base, that iS a PROBLEM…
I am so sick of Arod and we only have 9 more years of seeing his mug, yech….Can’t he just retire and go away..
No, Katie, I’m with you. However, we’re stuck with A-Rod the Abomination for nearly another decade. This inning should have been a blow-out. Pathetic!
Little Dustmite goes yard for Boston. 1-0 with the Jays coming to bat.
Agreed. If your paying a man that much money and he can’t get it done, put someone in his spot that can.
yea.. when he did us a service by opting out.. and what did hank/hal do? sign him up for an even bigger contract and homerun bonus…
I know most people will hate me for saying this, but at least Joe Torre had the balls to drop people in the lineup for not producing…
Remember this time last year when Moose would go a whole outing only missing 1 or 2 bats? Now he is getting hitters as tough as Markakis swinging like it’s nothing. Talk about a turnaround, it’s been great to watch.
I think it’s fair to say that during most games, you only get one or two chances to bust a game open. When A-Rod and Giambi are batting in the middle of a rally, it’s done, because the mere sight of teammates on base makes them soil their Depends.
pathetic effort by cano.
I’m sure this has been discussed, but I just got here. Sweet Lord in heaven, someone tell Girardi to flip-flop Giambi and Matsui. I assume he was batting Giambi behing A-Rod for the righty/lefty thing. ARGH.
Cano is just horrible at fielding, just awful.
Why do I sense a HR coming?
Mussina should publicly embarrass Cano at the end of the inning right on the field. Too many half ass efforts.
That ball was in the infield forever, how can he not get a glove on that?
also arod is just terrible when it comes to going to his left.
Okay, the Yankees need to hire Cano’s dad to knock some sense into him 24/7. Think about it, he will actually start hitting, and maybe play defense!
Wow the Yankees suck.
besides, no offense pete, but i don’t think meeting the LoHud beat reporter is quite the same as meeting the Yankees starting centefielder…
This is BS. Why can’t Mike Mussina ever get decent fielding behind him when it matters most? Ridiculous.
too much going on after 2 outs…just not good
This team just lost a few lugnuts on this game
jays up 2-1
Cano showed great range there. Dont know about the rest of you but im f-ing impressed with that 3rd out.
They can’t even beat a gal named Liz.
At least he’s out of it with minimal damage. No thanks to the defense.
I can’t wait to see Kevin Millar’s reaction when edwar strikes him out!!
This is the story of the Yankees. Easy infield plays leading to runs because of the lazy/ lack of defense.
AT least Mussina got out of the first, unlike in May.
It’s funny, according to the pretty good Baltimore guys calling the game the Yankees have the best fielding percentage in the AL.
We really should’ve picked up Byrd. He’s been great for the Sox.
Plus the lack of hitting, I mean, it’s just absurd
Christ, you people are pathetic. It’s the first inning. Huff is a left handed pull hitter and you want Cano playing up the middle for a right handed pull hitter. Try bitching about something that deserves it.
Here’s hoping Moose notches another one on the way to 20.
I’m with you, trisha – the most compelling story line left in the season unless some miracles start happening
it looks like we are facing cy liz now.
a-rod can hit with bases empty, so bat him first. live on the edge. take chances. alex’s own words.
Oh, and Liz has issued 32 walks in 48 innings. A real Cy Young threat.
Put Mussina on waivers.
Tell him after tonights game that you’ll only trade him to an AL contender, to give him a chance for his first 20 game win season, and that you’ll be calling for his services as a FA.
Explain to him, that the current Yankee team, plus the expanded rosters in September, are going to make it very unlikely that he’ll have any support behind him when he pitches. Much like tonight!!!!
“It’s funny, according to the pretty good Baltimore guys calling the game the Yankees have the best fielding percentage in the AL.”
We’re tied with the Jays for 1st in the AL.
Hmmmm.
I’m going to stay in the Cano-for-Matt Kemp camp after watching efforts like that for the Yanks’ beloved second baseman.
I’m not a believer in the “he’s a future All-Star, gold glover, batting champ….blah, blah, blah” argument anymore.
The guy doesn’t come to play everyday and that’s the bottom line. I’d rather see something out there with less talent and giving it his all 100% of the time.
We have to do something to make sure that we get rid of A-Rod.
The cancer must be excised.
So, now Rodriguez has 77 home runs, now? News to the baseball world.
I’m beginning to believe that Cano is in the process of playing himself off the team in a winter deal.
He’s got about as much for brains and effort as a bag of hammers.
Alex is not going anywhere. Deal with it
a jose molina double???????
this would be a great time for it
No way we get rid of a – rod. His odd year numbers are unbelievable. He will kill teams next year. This year, well…..
Cue up the them to Sanford & Sons. Thanks Pete!
“a-rod can hit with bases empty, so bat him first. live on the edge. take chances. alex’s own words.”
WTF?!!!
get this guy outta town! and his own words!!! the heartache that he has given this club and itts fans
trisha:
retire the name
Best Fielding Percentage, and not being able to throw a baserunner out from short CF are two different things!!
It’s however true,that we have the best fielding %, which means that we haven’t either gotten to balls we should have, or not received errors on makeable plays.
well that was just a bad swing there.
Kay keeps talking about how it’s tough to figure why the Yankees scored 950 runs last year but can’t this year. A-Rod and Jorge were insane last year and this year Matsui and Posada (who chipped in just short of 200 last year) have been gone for most of the year.
Not tough to figure to me.
Should Cano have gotten that ball? At least kept it in the infield? Seems like Mussina thought so.
I think pitchers love pitching against the yankees now.
YankeeTrader, you also have to realize that if we trade Moose we would lose another draft pick. Also if someone claims him than who could we get in return?
Hey Rishi! The Yankee faithful always show up.
clutch hitting there damon.
Oh the horror ! The more things change, the more they stay the same
“I’m going to stay in the Cano-for-Matt Kemp camp after watching efforts like that for the Yanks’ beloved second baseman.
I’m not a believer in the “he’s a future All-Star, gold glover, batting champ….blah, blah, blah†argument anymore.
The guy doesn’t come to play everyday and that’s the bottom line. I’d rather see something out there with less talent and giving it his all 100% of the time.”
I’ve come to feel less strongly against trading Cano than I did before, and I like Matt Kemp, but doesn’t he also have the same knock against him? That he has mental lapses in the field, etc?
Same old song & dance with this team.
this has to be some sort of mlb record how many people they leave on base.
NYY = LOB
Hey, trisha
I have faith, but I’m pragmatic – just don’t need to get embarrassed out there.
If what you need is a goal, then how about supporting Moose to a 20-win season and potential HOF. Seems worthy to me…
At least we are not throwing Hughes tomorrow. He is at
2ip 5 hits 4er 0 walks 3k’s and 50 pitches.
up w/Joba -
I was asked to put that in my tagline by another Yankee faithful here. So I did. For a little Arod started hitting. Then he stopped. I thought maybe my having it there was acting like a reverse mojo. So I took it out. Then one of the other Yankee fan posters told me he noticed I took it out. So I put it back in. Now you’re telling me to take it out. I feel like a flippin ping pong ball.
If I take it out it is NOT because I am not supportive of Arod, because as long as he wears the pinstripes I root for him. But I am willing to take it out since it wasn’t my idea originally to put it in.
Okay?
Mussina looks like a little leaguer out there. Can we move the mound to 45′ away from the plate?
moose is throwing just fastballs and very few curves.
Matt-
To get a draft pick/picks for your own FA, he has to sign with another team before 12/02/08, or be offered arbitration and decline it.
Moose will never get to twenty wins this year with the current team and the likely call-ups playing in September, and it’s a shame to not support him with a good effort in the field and at bat.
Rish, that is an extremely worthy goal. I defininitely want Moose to get to 20. Lord knows he deserves it.
My other goal will remain hoping that the Yanks make it to the postseason. It may feel like a long shot but it’s not impossible. As long as they still have a chance, it’s a goal I will continue to support.
I’ve come to feel less strongly against trading Cano than I did before, and I like Matt Kemp, but doesn’t he also have the same knock against him? That he has mental lapses in the field, etc?
True, but a change of scenery would do him some good and he’s got far more upside than Cano.
He’s two years younger, too.
For anyone and everyone who wants Arod disappeared (and I will be honest in saying that I was a huge proponent of that very thing his second (?) season with the Yanks – well one of the first seasons -) I have to say that I absolutely and unequivocally don’t believe we will see that happen.
That said, I see no point in rooting for that or rooting against him. I’d rather root for him to do well.
Just my opinion.
I know it’s for a good cause, but I can’t stand listening to the opponents wives talk. And where’s the cute girl that goes into the stand for mesn?
Just to show how no one is ever satisfied, I was listening to XM this afternoon in the car, and there was a caller who was an Angels fan who was actually complaining about the Angels because their team BA isn’t high enough compared to the 2002 Angels. Hello? Your team is guaranteed a playoff spot and has either the best or second best record in at least the AL, and you’re complaining? Sheesh.
“True, but a change of scenery would do him some good and he’s got far more upside than Cano.
He’s two years younger, too.”
Cano is a 2b. That is far more upside. Plus, hes already been an all star and had 3 productive years. Cano is already there. Kemp may never get there. And you can find OF’s.
Mel – you obviously have the Bmore feed?
Don’t think we are getting all these draft picks if these guys leave.
And who knows. We didn’t even sign our 1st rounder or 2nd rounder.
Just listening to Kay about Aloamr how he faded fast after hitting 2,500 hits.Jeter is also fading fast with he’s defense and Offense don’t make Jeter as this great offense power against other players.
When did Kay and Pete become Jeter fans after trashing Jeter and he’s GIDP’s all year?
Pete always flip-flops on players.
trisha,
Yes. The guy sounds just like the guys who calls games with Soup Campbell on espn.
Okay, I have decided that someone should tell ARod to spit out the gum. It’s pretty obvious he can’t hit and chew gum at the same time!
Atta Boy, A-Rod! Again!!
It’s pretty easy in regards to A-Rod.
He’s not playing for a contract.
That’s about it in a nutshell.
When he is bad, he is awful.
watching a-rod every day, has made my hair turn gray…if I only was so lucky ill be getting joe-g money
You can be a Jeter fan and still not like his GIDPS, you know?
right on cue arod.
Sure is a warm feeling I get when the best player in baseball comes to the plate with runners on.
ARod is quickly replacing Jeter as the new DP poster boy.
…like a snail, crawling on the edge of a straight razor. It is my dream…it is my nightmare.
Guys, guys,
Love the one you’re with….
Are you going to complain for the next 10 years?
WHY IN THE HELL DO THEY KEEP SENDING ABREU WITH A-ROD BATTING????? ARRRRRRRRRRRRGH!
If we aren’t there at the end, then I want to see the Rays take it all. You will never catch me rooting for an NL team unless the Sux are in the mix – then any warm NL body will do!
Mel -
Apparently only in the odd years!
next at bat arood will pop in to a double play and win the contest for most creative dps.
Oops – I meant EVEN years. Sheesh, again.
“Are you going to complain for the next 10 years?”
Mel – what do you think?
YankeeTrader:
“Matt-
To get a draft pick/picks for your own FA, he has to sign with another team before 12/02/08, or be offered arbitration and decline it.
Moose will never get to twenty wins this year with the current team and the likely call-ups playing in September, and it’s a shame to not support him with a good effort in the field and at bat.”
I really do want Mussina to get 20 wins, many people say it is the only way he will get to the HOF (aside from 300 career wins which still may seem unlikely at this point). If we trade him in a waiver deal we have to get some value in return.
the boos will reign on sir arod this tuesday in the bronx
lookin like game numba 41 with 2 runs or less? Hope not…
ay
joe g sent abreu in spring training,
mussina’s getting pressed
Interesting matchups viz-a-viz division and WC placement. Rays-White Sox; Minny-LA.
(I’m half-kidding with this post)
Would the Cardinals be dumb enough to trade Pujols for A-Rod?
“the boos will reign on sir arod this tuesday in the bronx”
You may feel better but he’ll likely play even worse. A true dilemma
c’mon Moose
can’t get much worse, can it, pat?
Yankee offense needs to wake the flip up. You can’t squeeze your pitcher every damn game to be “pitcher perfect”
maybe he’ll ask out like he did in Tex? at least Buck was honest enough to tell it like it was.
Okay, okay. Can we stop the complaining for the next 10 minutes at least?
I hate to report it but Phil Hughes is getting beat up again. 5-1 third inning. Ouch. Wonder what Cashman will say is the problem this time? Flu? Late night last night? Tired Arm? I love Phil Hughes but these last 2 havent seemed too good.
j joe
I’d prefer not to find out.
just terrefic we have no arm in ceneter and the run socres
how about this trade? Cano, melky, hughes and kennedy for santana. ah how hindsight is 20-20
I agree with the offensive offense…
I would love to see the Yankees in it at the end, I just think they keep letting the chances pass them by. I do feel good for next year, though
pat-
it might be for the best. tear it down and rebuild it.
Ugh, what is it with Mussina and the Orioles?
Matt- You were half kidding, I hope, Pujols for A-Rod. It’s doable. The other half is you trade A-Rod plus pay 80% of his remaining salary and Joba for Pujols.
So I hope that was an attempt at humor!!!
I am not even going to say anything about the better defender being on the bench right now. Sigh. Scandalous, in my book. How many runs has this ill fated experiment cost us now, 5?
now jeter…that guy has an edge…
whew!
all you need to look at is the AB’s with RISP for the 2 teams.. the orioles have more runs scored then the yanks with no SS production at all..
Mora and huff are better then abreu and arod can you imagine that????
Liz with a 7 ERA holding his own against our all star lineup.. pathetic… this team is so hard to watch…
yeah the abreu running on his own has to stop, he should only run when Griardi gives him the OK..This guys are just morons and cannot adjust, do they look at film or look at there stats???
At least if Gardner or another young guy plays I get to see something different but the same old bad stuff is old……..
giambi pulled an arod.,
first pitch out…what the freaking heck
um – does giambi think he’s a road runner?
In my book..on that play you don’t get credit for a hit.
BBB, I think we all feel your frustration, however it can’t have escaped your attention that the team needs to score runs to win?
So we are dealing with a double-edge sword and unfortunately the choice is to go with the hottest hitter. You can at least understand why it’s being done, even though you don’t like it.
Jason..wth?
If you look at the remaining schedules of the potential wild cards-Boston, Tampa, Minnesota and Chicago, Minnesota after they play 3 against the Angels this weekend, have the easiest remaining schedule, followed by the White Sox. Boston might just have to win the division to get in.
Nice slide by Giambi.lol
Don’t say these guys don’t care about winning. They are doing everything in their power to manufacture runs and in the process they are making outs. But that’s because they are desperate and pressing.
btw. the yanks are being held to one run by a pitrcher with a 7.47 era.
liz … mr. 7+ era one running the all powerful yankee lineup… woot!!
this team is just downright depressed. they need to have their heads examined to find out what the problem is.
You’d think being slow and all with a guy with a great arm in RF would deter Giambi? This team is so dumb and it shows.
jason giambi looks like a fat manatee flopping around out there
this is an offense to be proud of…!!
giambi is such a sack of sh-t it is unbelievable.. why run.. he is slower then big papi..
they are just a stupid team in all facets of the game…
pathetic…..
2/3′s of the twins games are on the road
The Jays have coughed up the lead, 5-2.
when we lose to a pitcher with an ERA of 7.50…..we have officially hit rock bottom….what a bunch of slugs they are….FUDGE !
Hard to watch . . . not an enjoyable team by any stretch.
the yanks lose agsisnt hard throwing righties soft tossing lefties and anyone with an era of 4. i bet pitchers with a 10.00 era are itching to get a start vs ny.
j joe
I can understand booing lack of effort not lack of results.
I’m a root for the laundry kind of fan. Like it or not, A-Rod is wearing the laundry I root for. Your choice to howl at the moon about it or cheer him on but he isn’t getting traded.
“jason giambi looks like a fat manatee flopping around out there”
More like a walrus. (mustache)
giambi abreu and cano will be gone next year…texiera and brian roberts would bring the team IQ up
“they are just a stupid team in all facets of the game…”
I don’t think they are stupid. I think they are pressing and taking chances. That’s two different things.
Trisha – I know, but Brett was hitting, even his outs were hit hard all weekend before he got benched, and its not like they have been scoring many runs without him and with all the big names in the lineup either. But they have been giving up many runs on defense w/Damon in CF! In fact, it seems like it’s cost them more runs defensively than it has yielded offensively.
Cano is a 2b. That is far more upside. Plus, hes already been an all star and had 3 productive years. Cano is already there. Kemp may never get there. And you can find OF’s.
No, not exactly. They are going to have to replace three outfielders over the next two seasons (Abreu, Matsui, and Damon) and the market for outfielders suck right now.
It would be wise to make a move for one of those outfielders this offseason and another next offseason instead of being forced to get more than one after 2009 with a terrible market.
Regardless of position, Kemp has far more upside than Cano. It’s really not even close. More power, more speed, and more tools.
I’d take my chances with Kemp after watching Cano the last couple of years.
Think about it, Giambi does nothing well. Can’t run, can’t hit other then the occasional HR, can’t throw, can’t defend his position…….but he’s making 24 million? What a horrible contract.
FYI:
Phil Hughes is getting lit up again in Triple-A. Five runs in three innings so far. Once again throwing his blistering 91 mph fastball. Im not sure what to make of it. I know hes still so young but that 91 is so so average.
pat,
i don’t know about you but i and many others have a hard time rooting for the guy, something about him.
joltin joe, how would we trade for Roberts and why would Baltimore trade him to a division rival?
well there goes the game.
These masn guys are too much. Chuckling at the American Idle nickname. Wonder if they’ll say that to Carl’s face?
Oh, and as for Giambi….what is there even left to say now? The guy has become a joke. I don’t know WHY the Yankees continue to test Markakis’ arm way more often than they should in general, but I bet Giambi in particular doesn’t even listen to scouting on the matter. He’s old, stubborn and one-dimensional. It’s been said countless times before, but even though he may be a good guy, having him off the team will be like having a 1,000 lb weight off your shoulders.
BBB – I absolutely understand what you are saying but I just don’t think Girardi is going to take the chance of sitting his hottest hitter with the offense struggling the way it is to score runs. If our offense was knocking the tar off the ball, I think you would see it play out differently. It definitely is a terrible choice to have to make, no question.
It’s ok, we will score lots of runs in this game and win!
trade cano for roberts straight up
Great. Now the Yankees will get shut down by this putrid starter for the next 3-4 innings.
It’s too bad Moose doesn’t pitch for a decent offensive team, he’d have had a real shot at 20
Why would Baltimore do that though?
I remember one crazy game once in which Mussina gave up 3 runs in the very first inning and then the Yanks scored a ton and we won! It can still happen! Yay for Yankee victories.
Other then a few players (Arod,Jeter,Mo,Posada etc…guys like that) everyone should either be let go as FA or explore the trade market. This team needs to be dismantled. I don’t know about fully rebuilding but it wouldn’t hurt to seriously think about it.
Get to work bats. By that I mean actually score some runs
And Overbay just hit a 2-run dinger off the Voice of Sideshow Bob.
5-4. At least Jays are making it a game.
this team is what it is. they’ve never proven anything, this isn’t the team that won 4 WS. if anything it shows the value of posada, in his prime, or walk year. losing wang didn’t help either. and maybe we shouldn’t have believed our own propaganda of how good hughes and kennedy were.
This was the only clearly favorable pitching matchup this series for the Yanks. Sunday is Cabrera — count on the Depends being soiled then too.
very cute, Nick
Good call Nick!
Also, is “Overbay” his real name, or is that just pig latin for “Bover”?
Nice, Cano.
someone get out the tape measure.
Bravo Kay, bravo.
Well, that makes up for the O’s first run.
matt
why wouldn’t they?
back to back jacks.
Well that’s something good! We need some more
Nick – YOU ROCK!
Kemp does have much more power and speed than Cano. I have my reservations about him too though, and they’re the same kinds of reservations that exist about Cano, so in that regard, it almost seems counterproductive to trade one for the other.
However, it would be a lot easier to fill a hole at 2b through FA (with Hudson or Ellis) this winter than it would to find an OF at or above Kemp’s level next winter. The FA pool is getting weaker and weaker every year, it is just by luck that 2 decent 2b’s are available this offseason.
Jeffrey Meyer in the front row!!
Keep talking Kay.
Nice HR by Cano and Molina!
It’s doesn’t take long! Sheesh, all is not lost.
Is CHase Wright pitching now for Baltimore??
those two hits must have left a vapor trail. they were curshed.
why do we need pudge? good lord.
Question: Why would the Dodgers trade a guy hitting .300/.348/.481 and +3 fielding runs at a demanding defensive position for a guy hitting .261/.301/.390 and -5 fielding runs at a demanding defensive position?
Answer: They wouldn’t.
Molina!
LOL WOW
Never say never, I guess!
Nick in SF
You got the crystal ball out tonight?
Holy Molina! That’s got to be a sign!
So Nick your job has become to be the positive cheerleader during every game. It seems they listen to you.
Whoa. Did that just happen?
Tie game!
that Pudge trade feels useless, Molina has put up better offensive numbers than Pudge since the trade deadline and is a better game caller
I have to say for the record that as awful as he was at the plate, I really miss Da Melk.
Dats all.
“Question: Why would the Dodgers trade a guy hitting .300/.348/.481 and +3 fielding runs at a demanding defensive position for a guy hitting .261/.301/.390 and -5 fielding runs at a demanding defensive position?
Answer: They wouldn’t.”
I agree, but Kent’s tenure with LA is coming to an end and they do have a lot of outfielders with Ramirez (if he signs with them), Ethier, Andruw (lol), Pierre, etc.
I think LA would have been more prone to trade Kemp if LaRoche hadn’t already been traded. May have been one or the other. But maybe we get Kemp for Cano and another piece.
I’m surprised Abreu got a fastball there. You think they would have pitched around him because A-Rod was coming up next.
Abreu’s on fire tonight
kinda soon for a new pitcher, no?
I can’t agree that the Pudge trade was useless. The Pudge trade was necessary in the minds of the Yankees since Jorge was down and they wanted to make it to the postseason. Molina, who incidentally is the best trade we’ve ever made, has always been a back-up catcher and was not going to be able to handle the pressure of doing all the catching. Cripes people here were ragging on the guy when he stopped hitting! Like the job of your damned catcher is to hit anyway. That’s a BONUS with catchers.
So the Yankees went out and got an HOF catcher. They obviously felt that the tandem of Pudge and Molina was going to be superior to Molina and Moeller, especially in the postseason – something they were hoping for!
Pudge has actually done a very good job with two of the five pitchers.
Y’all know that Kyle was my boy. But I couldn’t pretend that I didn’t understand why they did what they did. I still say it was the proper move.
I need Moose to get to 20 wins get my full case of Moose bars. If I have to cheer a little, fine, I’ll do it.
Also, I just got plane tickets to Baltimore this afternoon.
And I spoke to my dad on the phone as he was driving to Baltimore.
So the stars are aligned. We will win today.
well bad luck for arod there.
OK, new game! Now it’s Moose vs. the Baltimore bullpen. I like our chances.
However, it would be a lot easier to fill a hole at 2b through FA (with Hudson or Ellis) this winter than it would to find an OF at or above Kemp’s level next winter. The FA pool is getting weaker and weaker every year, it is just by luck that 2 decent 2b’s are available this offseason.
Well done. That is exactly how I see it and the primary reason why they should pull the trigger on such a deal.
WOW! PHIL HUGHES…8 RUNS ON 10 HITS IN 3 INNINGS….I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT HE SUCKS
Rishi,
They didn’t want the rookie to face Alex. I don’t know why, tho.
C’mon, Moose a scoreless inning would greatly increase your chance of getting a win.
Memo to Joe: Stop sending runners with Alex at the plate.
Nick just to be sure that you understand what I’m saying. You are now on tap to cheer for ALL our pitchers and assure us we’re going to win EVERY game!
Well, he may not suck, but he certainly has lost whatever he had when he was dominating at the same level.
If your #4 and #5 cant hit in spots where RBI are available you cannot win. The #4 hitter is there to drive in runs. If you as the #4 must make an out, you should be able to make a productive out to move a runner not hit into a DP
Please bat Arod second
I love Kenny in the booth. Such an easy going voice – even when he’s critical, he’s not nasty. He brings a lightness. When it’s Kay and Leiter, it’s very antagonistic in nature.
I already cheer for every Yankee pitcher. In my own way.
I’ll cheer for Pavano tomorrow night. If he’ll only let me.
two unlikely heroes – cano and molina so far… wow.
Yeah,
remember, Hughes and Kennedy are “untouchable”
Santana right now could have the Yankees in playoff contention.
I`d rather have Hughes (2 years struggling with injuries and strugling at AAA) and IPK, cocky pitcher with no credentials to back it up, and lets not forget Melky, the other untouchable in that potential trade, who is now tearing up AAA
That helps us now
black ysnkee?
If Girardi hasn’t moved the 5 hitter yet, what are the odds of him moving the 4 hitter?
“I already cheer for every Yankee pitcher. In my own way.”
Here’s the point. You were optimistic about the win and they got runs.
You wanna cheer, cheer. You don’t wanna cheer, don’t cheer.
I’ll cheer for Pavano tomorrow night too, but I’m gonna try and conjure up some sort of Pavano Drinking Game to make it more interesting.
I’ll always cheer for Moose the most of all, though. Nice inning there!
Guess Varitek’s getting over his divorce. Wad hit a homer.
I say trial by fire…keep the rookie in there
Oi, Pete. Our Pats aren’t doing so well without Brady. They should’ve drafted Colt Brennan. Guess they didn’t think they could catch lighting in a bottle in the 5th round twice.
That reade looks worse and worse. Unotuchables Kennedy, Hughes and Melky for Santana
The Stache Stinks
If the Yankees aren’t careful, and if their prospects keep turning out like Hughes, even the Orioles will pass them in the AL East.
They have a lot of young position players and good pitching prospects coming on. Not the least of which is Liz. His lack of command is the only thing standing in his way from the majors, which is not uncommon in young pitchers.
The O’s also got the best pitcher in the draft this year, Matusz.
Hey Mel I am on the Colt Brennan bandwagon. I personally think he can give Carter a run for his money in Washington by next year’s camp. He has looked good in the pre-season games i’ve seen.
Moose needs the win tonight….how about a 2-out nightmare…right HERE !!!
By Carter I meant Jason Campbell.
It was bad enough when Yankees’ hitters couldn’t hit FB’s, but a hanging curve? You gotta do better than that, Cano.
Many teams have at least one or tow solid everyday playing rookies or pitchers. Yankees tell everyone how great the prospects are and he we are at the end of the season and I havent seen anything.
I would trade the 2-out average for a better RISP average any day.
Okay, Moose. Scoreless inning if you reaaaalllly want it.
Rob NY,
Yeah, Colt’s uh, unorthodox, but he’s always been a winner. If he can play smart, he’ll have a good future.
Alex plays by the 5 run rule. Yankees up by 5 runs or down by 5 runs he will get a big hit. Any other time the slelections are:
K
GIDP
Pop up (not deep enough to advance the runner)
swining bunt
….He caught that? HOLY!!!
Bobby should bring little league teams to games more often
SHUT UP ABOUT BOBBY FOREVER AND EVER!!!!!
WOO HOO!
Very nice play.
BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Bobby Abreu caught a ball that was near the wall. The Yankees now will automatically win this game.
Wow! Bobby the Magician!
If you want to give props to someone for affecting the game, how about those Venezuelan little leaguers! We need them to light a fire under Bobby every game.
Maybe we can get some little leaguers from whatever planet Arod is from.
A great play, a bad play. Time for a good play now.
Lucky that didn’t go out.
Now Moose needs to get the job done for himself…
FYI – I hate Kevin Millar
Santana wouldn’t have made a bit of difference this season the way the rest of the team is playing. Don’t kid yourself.
And we’d be out a couple of pitchers who figure into our long term plans. Think about in three or four years, Kennedy and Hughes will hopefully have figured it out and come close to reaching their ceilings, again hopefully.
So we’d be stuck paying an obscene amount for a pitcher who was no longer the #1 we traded for heading a rotation of other young pitchers who would most likely be struggling the same way Hughes and Kennedy are.
Not trading for Santana kept this team flexible for years to come. It was the right long term move. Enough is enough.
One-half step away from a second great catch. Anyone else think Bobby was gonna get lost back there on the first catch? Didn’t look like he was coming out of there.
Nice to see that people don’t run on Bobby. Happy that went to right…
come on Moose
Come on Moose, you can do this.
Pray for a pop up, DP, K, that’s about it.
What do you do? Leave a gassed Moose in or give him a chance for the win?
Everything is being hit very hard.
Millar is such a joke. He would give anything to play for the Red Sox. He’s said how bad he wants to go back there and all the does is relish the times when he played there. And everytime the Yankees come to town he somehow thinks he’s still important and thinks every game is the 2004 ALCS.
mel
Bruney was coming in and a wise woman once told me he would break you heart.
Moose is getting SQUEEEEEEEZED tonight….
Dammit.
The thing we can NEVER seem to do.
That should have been a strikeout, pathetic ump.
oh crap
Get this out. The Yanks can score 2+ in the 7th.
watching these games is just flat out depressing anymore.
So now do you hope for more runs in the 7th and bring back Moose hoping he can get it done enough for the W? Drat.
The flying Jose Molina ensuring that we all got tickets to the gun show tonight !
Phantom tag by Cano. He’s lucky he didn’t get called on that nonsense. You see that crap from him all the time. He’s so cocky and just expects the ump to give him the call.
Exactly like a few games ago when he missed the 2nd base bag on a routine DP. Tried to sell it like he touched the bag but took his foot off WAY to early. The ump had to call it.
How many runs has Damon in center field cost now?
I doubt Moose comes back out for the 7th so if he is to get a win we need to score atleast 2 runs here and then hold the lead. C’mon Yanks, give Moose a chance.
Back to work Yankee bats. Make us smile?
This dude has a 9.00 ERA
Has Molina ever had 2 homeruns in a game?
This game doesn’t matter anyway really if Boston wins.
We have to go into that Boston series only 3 games back for it to mean anything.
Moose won’t be back. Have to score 2+ to get him the W and 1 so he won’t be the pitcher of record.
OK – I have guests over for dinner and am spending waaaaay too much time checking in with you all…
2 runs, please…get the freaking W.
Still cant score more than three runs off a last place team pitching league average pitchers.
I love how we can’t score with a guy that has an ERA of 9.00
Go Jetes!
Here is the sad line for Phil Hughes’ night if you’re interested:
3.1 10 8 8 1 6 1 8.47
devastating offense
Funny thing is, we all thought the lack of starting pitching, inexperienced starting pitching, and starting pitxhing injuries would be the downfall
its the offense, or lack there of
amazing
Moose just has bad karma against the Orioles this year. I guess it happens to everyone. Roy freaking Halladay is 0-3 against the Tampa Bay Rays. Luckily it looks like Moose won’t have to face Baltimore again rest of the way.
There goes a possibility for Moose to get # 17.
Don’t worry…we have the two automatic outs coming up next inning…ARod and Giambi.
Have we won a single series opener this year yet?
This is a loss all the way. This team has nothing left in it. And it’s been that way since June. Except now everyone else is starting to take notice.
ok – so the chance for #17 is gone, how about just a plain ‘ole W
Rob are you serious about that? OUCH!
I think any manager couldn’t manage this mess, but Girardi has been pretty awful. I hate to say this, but he and Cashman need to go. But there is nothing that I can think of to replace them. It looks pretty bleak.
8 back to backs for the year.. I bet they had 15 last year.
What are we with RISP tonight.. Nothing changes.. Abreu also should have caught Millars ball these announcers are blind, ABreu runs 1/2 ass.. Damon has no range to play Cf, he must play LF next year if he is back.
How many games have we scored 3 runs or less in? We may be adding to it again..
The offense just is finding new lows almost on a daily basis.. They all need lobotomies.. They are pathetic.
Moose is one of the few things worth watching this team for.. The good news is next year we will have many many new faces….
“Have we won a single series opener this year yet?”
Of course we have.
Ray (sox fan):
Don’t know if you’re around tonight, but does this look the probables for the Yanks/Sox series?
Tue: Pettitte vs. Beckett
Wed: Ponson vs. Byrd
Thu: Mussina vs. Lester
Predictions anybody?
Hopefully Moose has enough starts left to get him to 20…
I feel a Millionaire Rantâ„¢ coming on.
Kay said earlier in the broadcast that the Yankees have the third worst record in series openers in baseball.
When the workers don`t do their job responsibilty falls to the boss or supervisor
Yeah Rebecca he gave up 10 hits and 8 runs and they werent just bleeders and poor defense… The six Ks to 1 Walk seems encouraging but I can’t imagine a reason for why he got bombed again.
Yanks lucky at least that Sherrill is DLd.
good lord hard hands Alex is up next.
choke artist
May I take this opportunity to remind everyone I LOVE BOBBY and really hope he’s back with us next year?
Thank you!
GOOD JOB ALEX!!!
Well Bobby’s putting on a good show for the kids he brought to the game. 4-4
If we don’t score here…
crack on Abreu all you like,
at least he hits—he has 4 tonight
No style points, please.
I feel a Millionaire GIDPâ„¢ coming on.
or…
I feel a Millionaire Kâ„¢ coming on.
or…
I feel a Millionaire Chokeâ„¢ coming on.
Oh Bobby I would have kicked your ass
“I feel a Millionaire Rantâ„¢ coming on.”
Hysterical!
will giambi get a hit here??????????????
Where’s the nitwit who said Bobby Abreu wasn’t preparing to win by being nice to Little Leaguers from his country?
He’s 4 for 4. Good karma pays off.
Bobby was out.
I feel a homer coming on…
come on, fly ball!
popped up!!!!!!!!
Thats not quite what I meant, Daver – but you get brownie points for the amusement attempt, lol.
why, or the love of g-d is Giambi still hitting fifth?
All we need is a deep out…
GRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why oh why oh why does a .250 hitter hit infront of a .330 hitter
The Stache Sucksâ„¢
Hughes’ complete line for tonight against Lehigh Valley…the same team that beat him last time out on Sunday.
3.1 10 8 8 1 6 – 86/60 strikes – 2GO/2FO – 3 2B hits, 1 HR, 1 HBP
Needless to say it was a good idea to keep him in Scranton for this start. The good news is he is still throwing a ton of strikes.
The bad news, besides the obvious results, is he threw less pitches than last time out, didn’t complete as many innings (3.1 instead of 3.2), and somebody previously posted that Hughes was only throwing around 90-91mph.
thanks becca move roid head out of the 5th spot
Will Peteer get on Giambi is his incompetence or since he is a good guy he will get the pass.
What are they with RISP tonight? Pathetic as usual but how bad??
Arod he watches his supposed HR’s all the friggin time, fine his ass………
If only Hideki was hitting fifth there would have been a run right there.
Jason. :shaking my head in sadness:
I like using the Trademark Symbolâ„¢
bradon another good point
JR – any idea how Melky did?
hey pete bobby abreu is a overpaid piece of trash
its about time he did something
At least I can say I NEVER got into the Giambi hype for All Star. There were people voting for this guy over and over. WHY???? He sucked back then.
We lose this game I’m definitely putting the blame on GI Joe. It’s comical now how he has Giambi protecting Alex, it’s not working put a legit hitter behind him !
Giambi can never re-enter Yankee Stadium next year as a Yankee player. Take the money and get Burnett instead! Worthless at bat there.
Girardi is a horrible manager if he puts Giambi in the 5th hole again tomorrow.
*chastened look for style point usage*
Pete, can you please ask Girardi why he insists on leaving Giambi in the 5th spot?
I am down on Giambi, no question. He should not bat fifth. But, “to whom much is given, much is expected” Arod is 100 Xs better than Giambi, and in the clutch, Arod is just about as good as Giambi.
Giambi bats fifth, gets a lot of chances to win games for yanks, he fails alot as does Arod with much more skill and better tools
Nady!
Way to go Giamboid.
Another guy with a 9.00 ERA?
Come on.
THANK GOODNESS
That’s pretty much the one thing you can’t do in that spot Jason. It goes to show you how selfish a player is when he wont change his approach despite the fact that there are holes all over the field and a grounder to first gets the job done, but The Little G takes his uppercut homerun cut and flies out… to the short stop. Game is tied! No thanks to the offense but the game is tied.
So you know I REALLY want Bobby back.
Just sayin.
That was a gift run. You could sense another opportunity was about to be wasted.
Woo! Thank you new Baltimore pitcher!
The Stache Sucksâ„¢ T-shirts are coming soon…
So the wild pitch does what Giambi should have atleast taken care of…scored a run and moved another runner to 3B.
No wonder he is batting 5th…see Girardi knows what he’s doing.
Of course the X-MAN delivers.
I don’t get too into bashing the lineups but… please. Flip Matsui and Giambi. Please please please.
Melky is 0-3, K so far BTW.
X Marks The Spotâ„¢
That’s all we asked. A simple run.
By the way, I would have taken a sac fly. Good job X!
Yeah X!
There’s the diiference between the Giamboid and X-Man when it comes to clutch hitting.
Jim S August 22nd, 2008 at 9:40 pm
“At least I can say I NEVER got into the Giambi hype for All Star. There were people voting for this guy over and over. WHY???? He sucked back then.”
No he didn’t. It was after he didn’t get voted on (probably by people who thought he sucked) that he sucked.
Can we order a few more X-Men type ballplayers ????
Alex misses a HR by that much but why did he get the hit because he softened up his grip on that bat, Giambiis swinging like Dustin Pedroia when he was first called up.
And there’s X just does what he needs to do. He softens his hands and lets his body drive the ball.
WHY DOES THIS MAN NEED PROTECTION !!!!
Classic Beavis! Need some TP for your…..
Why does Girardi keep playing him?
I`d put Gardner in CF and put Damon at first- or put Nady at first and put Damon in LF
I can work with this.
And I wasn’t logged on when it happened, but I gotta say – that catch of Abreu’s.. he might be afraid of the wall, but he’s clearly not afraid of the wall in the dark corner, lol.
Trisha…so far Melky is 0-4 with a K.
1 Groundout to 1B.
2 Flyout to LF.
All together he has seen 22 pitches and 5 LOB.
Thanks Frank.
Jays just blew a good opportunity to score. 2 runners on, Vernon Wells up. Timlin pitching. Nada la dida.
Still 6-4, top of the 8th. Soon the river dancing fruitcake will tap his way out the mound and try to frighten all the women and little children with his fish-mouth glare.
And put Gardner in CF PLEASE !!!!! no more chances w/ Damon, defensive replacement GI Joe for the love of god please ~!
Is that Hughes info accurate??
Someone pick up the bat phone and call Chad Jennings!
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
ARod (grudgingly) 3B
Matsui DH
Nady 1B
Cano 2B
Gardner CF (by the way, when they brought him up they said he was going to play)
Irod C
Thanks JR. Not quite what we need him to be doing down there.
I gaurantee Nady and Damon are no worse defensivley than big G
Got in late and find the Yankees up 5-4 on a clutch single by X-man.
Except for the fact that Moose can’t win, I’m having a great weekend so far…
Got in late and find the Yankees up 5-4 on a clutch single by X-man.
Except for the fact that Moose can’t win, I’m having a great weekend so far…
Defensive replacements better come in next inning. Is it going to be Marte out of the bullpen?
Can’t wait to get rid of Giambi.
Nice guy, but the anti-winning player.
Hey GIRARDI….how is that GENIUS FRICKIN’ MOVE HAVING GIAMBI in the 5 SPOT WORKIN’ FOR YA….YOU IDIOT ???….When does this TOTAL MORON of a Manager we are forced to live with, wake up one day and figure out….HEY, JASON GIAMBI can’t even PULL A FRICKIN’ GROUND BALL TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE INFIELD when we need him to…DEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR…maybe he should be batting lower in the lineup…………DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR…my name is Arnold…………DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !
I’d go Ransom at 1B and Gardner in CF after this next out. No if ands or buts, he can’t lose a game because of lack of range after this inning.
Marte coming up? We need some insurance here
Clay:
The line and hits/pitches are correct on Hughes.
However, I cannot confirm his velocity and/or which pitches he was using.
Just went over to Chad Jennings blog. He seemed to say that it was not as bad as the numbers look, but that he will have more after the game.
My question is who do you bring in for the 8th? I would probably go with Brun-Dog.
Damon leads of the 9th, leave him in.
I’d say kiss the Jays game goodbye. 7-4.
Is that considered a dropped third strike?
i’m back to reading and not posting much, but i gotta comment on Pete’s humor…. CORNHOLIO.. that was hysterical…He needs TP for his bunghole after giving up two runs..
Style points to Molina for trying to confuse everybody into letting him take first base on a strikeout lol
Once it hit Molina, it is a dead ball and he is OUT
However, I cannot confirm his velocity and/or which pitches he was using.
91 – 93 mph topped out at 93 mph according to Jennings, he’s going through the dead arm period. I still don’t know how a SP like him would go through a dead arm period but that seems to be the indications.
And he leaves Damon in CF (you got to kidding me)
* (you got to be kidding me)
Melky just came up for the 5th time and struck out swinging on 4 pitches to end the inning and strand the tying run on 3rd.
how could a twenty two year old pitcher who has sat out the most of the last two years have a dead arm?
melky must have thought he was playing at Yankee stadium
Cornholio… best blog reference ever
3 game suspension
“Melky just came up for the 5th time and struck out swinging on 4 pitches to end the inning and strand the tying run on 3rd.”
Ugh.
Yeah, I meant to add that some things never change re: my previous Melky post.
“3 game suspension”
3 game suspension
we didn’t hit him 5 games.
why is Edwar even warming up? You’re going to Mo anyway, there was no chance Edwar was going to come in
Here in Toronto the floodgates are opening up as the Red Sox take an 8-4 lead. One thing I will give Yankee fans they are first class compared to these scumbags from Boston. They are the most disrespectful people I have ever met. You clap and cheer for your team, but to go to another ballpark and gloat?
We need four runs of MDC because it is not going to happen against Papelbon.
Arod fan president -
All pitchers go through dead arm periods. And, since Hughes is pretty much in spring training mode right now, it makes sense that his arm would tire a bit at this point in time. It’s not really surprising, and age has nothing to do with it.
A-Flop is as incompetent with runners on base as the guy sitting in the White House is for running the country.
Here’s a question for everyone, what do you think Giambi’s value on the market will be in the offseason? He’s making 23mil now so you know that’s not possible, 1/3 of that at 7-8mil or even less? I’m glad he’s gone in the offseason
I’m pulling for Melky. Kay said he was hitting .500 in SWB before tonight.
how could a twenty two year old pitcher who has sat out the most of the last two years have a dead arm?
That’s the word.
Meanwhile…..how the hell did this guy (Marte) dominate the NL and forget how to throw strikes in the AL
“we didn’t hit him 5 games.”
Girardi ain’t playin! Gotta go to Mo
It didn’t bother me to see Marte whack Huff. The guy was killing us. Hit him or walk him was my preference.
Meanwhile, our old friend Matt Desalvo has not yet recorded an out but given up 5 hits, 4ER, and still 2 men on base for ATL.
I am really afraid that Giambi will be playing in Toronto next year. He is our next Frank Thomas.
Damon is in CF because he leads off the 9th.
Once he bats, THEN you can put Gardner in CF in the bottom half.
Go MO!
Hey JB! I was really hoping you guys would take care of the Sux. That’s okay you have time. You spent so many bullets last night that you just needed to reload.
And yeah, they are a pretty classless bunch. Blue collar putzes – not that there’s anything wrong with that…
Okajima in to face the Jays in the eighth with a four run lead.
you threaten to sue people when they make fun of you, but harass on the Orioles rookie pitcher?
91-93? Wow, I’m hoping he’s still got that dead arm. Otherwise, I don’t know what to say. Phil has completely regressed and his velocity has dropped precipitously. It’s scary that he’s getting pounded in AAA. What has happened to this kid? You guys all know that I have kept the faith, but at this point, I have to ask what is wrong? Did Phil just lose his talent? Is that even possible? From what I know of him, his command is nothing like it was before he was called up last year. Phil seemed to have it all – and it’s all just disappeared. Again, he can’t even get AAA hitters out. This is sad, especially because he’s such a good kid. I’m depressed right now……
Okajima in to face the Jays in the eighth with a four run lead.
Jays won’t hit him tonight
Not nearly as classless as the Blue Jays fans were last night.
Shelley Duncan just jacked a 2 run homer to give Scranton an 11-10 lead.
Marte is facing AL teams and AL hitters
BIG difference
JB, Okajima has been pretty inconsistent. I don’t know if he’s 4 runs worth, but I can hope!
“I am really afraid that Giambi will be playing in Toronto next year. He is our next Frank Thomas.”
You can only hope they dont give him 10 million and expect him to play first base. He is a fun enough guy to root for because I like his personality but if you all sign him next year youll get some homers and some walks and you can just be glad you didn’t sign on for the 23m a year package!
Couldn’t the dead arm be precisely because he hasn’t pitched for a good part of the year? The whole building up arm strength thing that pitcher talk about?
i think he was over rated by the Yankee brass. along with other yankke “top prospects”
Marte also has a lot (for him) of innings on his already.
Toronto has Stairs, same type of hitter but he can actually field
Hughes gave up 12 baserunners (10 hits, 1 BB, 1 HBP) and 8 runs in only 3 inning? Including 3 doubles and a HR?
Wow, he may have gone the Homer Baily route.
And he gets a ND too lol
+arm
Frank:
You can act anyway you want in your own park. Just don’t show up at another park and be a jerk. I would never do that at Yankee Stadium.
There were a lot of Red Sox fans at the Rogers Centre last night cheering against the Yankees. They were tolerable then.
9th inning in Toronto — 8-4 Boston.
Another hit for Bobby.
That’s called good Karma
“Marte also has a lot (for him) of innings on his already.”
Yes he does. And he did a fine job for us tonight. Nobody was controlling Huff so I don’t fault Marte.
hey watch what you say, Hughes is “untouchable”
Bobby needs to bring these Little Leaguers everywhere.
Abreu 5-5, bring him back.
long legs
August 22nd, 2008 at 10:10 pm
i think he was over rated by the Yankee brass. along with other yankke “top prospectsâ€
I would tend to give that line of thought some credibility (and a lot of people subscribe to it) if it wasnt for the fact that so many independent prospect ranking sources had him as one of the 2 best pitching prospects in the game. That kind of talent doesn’t just go away and it also doesn’t get reported just because the Yankees tell everybody he is the next Roger Clemens. He has been handled wrong, gotten hurt and altered mechanics as a result. That I think is the truth of the matter.
marte will be fine. just don’t use him as a SU man next year.
we gave up Tabata for him, we better retain him for more than 2 months
man, all this stinking garbage coming out of the Yankees farm system… Desalvo, Clipper, Wright, Garner, Melky, Cano, Kennedy, Hughes. When will it stop??? 2012, 2013?
Wow 5-5 for Bobby.
“You can act anyway you want in your own park. Just don’t show up at another park and be a jerk.”
I actually feel the same way. It’s the equivalent of Ray (Sox fan) coming here and being totally respectful and explaining that he feels like he is a guest in “our” home and believes he should act accordingly.
I would bring back Abreu next year and trade one of Damon/Matsui.
Do you think Bobby will pay for the Little League kids to stay for the weekend? Or maybe the NYY will?
Tonight Joe Torre brought in TANYON STURTZE to pitch for the Dodgers . . . MATT DeSALVO gave up 8 hits and 6 earned runs in one inning for the Braves . . . CARL PAVANO is starting tomorrow . . . maybe this season has just been a bad dream
Robby is garbage? Geeze I totally disagree with that.
5-5 Bobby should chauffeur those kids around for the next month…
Definitely re-sign Abreu, he’s one of the few that can hit with RISP as it is. Big G, see ya. Re-sign Moose and Andy, Hughes cannot be handed a spot in the rotation again.
We didn’t give up Tabata for Marte, Marte was a throw in. The MAIN guy we were getting was X-man. And, also, Tabata may NEVER be anything
Damn, that left field has been incredibly rude to Alex tonight.
He has done it AGAIN.
Cody!
SHANE SPENCER!!!!
START THE KID!!!
WTF ? Fernando Tatis ?
CODY RANSOM is the new X
Nice one, Cody!
JB (Blue Jays Fan)
No.
Last night was embarrassing for the Yankees. But more so for the Blue Jays fans. The rivalry is between the Yankees and Red Sox. A couple “Yankees Suck” chants will suffice in a blow out game.
But last night was an all-out cursing festival that I haven’t seen since a college football game. And all from fans of a team who hasn’t sniffed first place in two decades.
Bye bye Giambi…our new #5 hitter.
You cannot trade Matsui-he the only clutch hitter they have
So apparently we need to play this ransom guy more often.
This dude is amazing.
I have more confidence that Cody Ransom will get a hit instead of Giambi.
Cody Ransom HOW IS YOUR HAMMER!!!
X is the new Cody
They so needed this tonight and so did we.
The legend of Cody Ransom grows.
Could he be the next Shane Spencer?
Cody Ransom and the X-Man don’t need no little league kids!
Ransom! My Hero!
How sweet is that? Michael Kay was going on about the chance you take by having Ransome pinch run for Giambi (or whatever he did) and how it takes his bat away.
I was kind of thinking to myself that it isn’t like we would be expecting Giambi to scorch the ball!
Ok nevermind…I still want Nady in the # 5 spot.
Ransom > Giambi
And Sterling said “handsome Ransom”!!!
Wasting all our offense
Ransom = Shane Spencer?
We got ourselves a new 1st baseman! Way to go Cody. Goodbye Giambi and your well worn thong and stache!
Nady is a stat padder. How dare he hit a HR late in the game with the Yankees up.
The offense is so great when Giambi is out of the lineup.
I notice on this board that people keep saying “why didn’t the Yankees trade for Santana”?
Someone should point out to these people that the Twins traded Santana and they have a better record.
Papelbon is in with a 4 run (non-save situation) lead. I hope we take a lot of pitches so he is unavailable for the rest of the series.
hmmm…interesting turn of events…GO YANKS!!!!
I say once again,,,,can we get a few more X-Man type ballplayers….
Hansom Ransom
37th come from behind win if we hold on. We still must believe…until Pavano at least…
I wonder what the Oriole blogs (if there are any) are saying about Trembley’s bullpen management.
And yes, Rebecca, Ransom should start at 1B tomorrow.
“We didn’t give up Tabata for Marte, Marte was a throw in. The MAIN guy we were getting was X-man.”
I don’t know about that, Cashman had had his eye on Marte for while – so did a lot of teams. He’s hardly a scrub.
Yeah he’s had some bad outings, mostly when he’s sometimes (due to necessity of the game situation) been left in too long. I think he’s a decent pitcher who will be able to help the Yankees next year too.
LOL Hybrid Well played!!
Now 3 quick outs for Mo for the save and my work here is done.
moose for cy young
Ransom uses Arod’s swing better than Arod. Seriously relaxed hands and drives the ball. Hopefully he can keep up the hot streak. Giambi should be ashamed of himself.
“But last night was an all-out cursing festival that I haven’t seen since a college football game. And all from fans of a team who hasn’t sniffed first place in two decades.”
Agreed. It was pretty lame, Frank.
JB – the Santana cadre is the vast minority.
“We didn’t give up Tabata for Marte, Marte was a throw in. The MAIN guy we were getting was X-man. And, also, Tabata may NEVER be anything”
Actually I believe it was Nady AND Marte the Yanks were interested in because they wanted a left handed presence in the pen and were high on Marte. By the way, I can see why. Girardi overworked him for a while (compared to what he was used to pitching) and it showed. But when he is pitching a normal schedule, the guy is very good.
Marte has shown he can get the best lefties out in big spots. Thats all we need him to do. We have plenty of other guys like Melancon, Sanchez, Veras, Edwar, Bruney etc. who can pitch to righties in the 8th.
Use Marte as the lefty specialist (or a full inning if a righty is sandwhiched between 2 lefties), and he will be a force.
Relievers are so year to year anyway, so I would bet Marte does well when he re-familiarizes himself with the AL.
I do love the irony of Kay saying how the Yankees took a chance on offense bringing in Ransom. Giambi has no offensive game. I guess it’s probably the fact that Bal either A has a crappy pen or B has no book on Ransom, but to be 2-2 with 2 HR’s is ridiculous. Good for him, good for us.
Frank:
Two decades? We won back to back championships in 1992 and 1993. We were close since 1989 before that.
That’s not two decades…not yet anyways. We finshed second in the East two years ago ahead of the Sox. Look it up.
HAHAHA Sterling is hysterical!!! “Handsome Ransom”!!!
>>>Nady is a stat padder. How dare he hit a HR late in the game with the Yankees up.
He does have a penchant for tacking on hits when the game has been decided – but he also has a penchant for getting big hits in key situations.
we need 2 sweeps to be back in the mix!!! have faith and still rebuild next yr!
“Now 3 quick outs for Mo for the save and my work here is done.”
You gotta admit Arod has flashed some leather tonight.
Play the kids… Ransom, Gardner, etc. see if we can get a spark like the Mets got with Murphy/Evans.
ransom for mvp. lol. 2-2 2 hrs and 5 rbi. whast clucth
Everyone needs to slow down and look up Cody Ransom’s career minor league numbers before they start falling in love with him.
Notice how he’s never been close to even an upper .250 AVG.
He’s providing a nice spark, and I love that. But he won’t even be on the bench for long.
I’m so happy to see Carl Pavano back with the team. I don’t think I can fall asleep tonight.
The point still remains that it was a lame display of behavior, JB. Do you hear Yankee fans doing that en masse at Yankee stadium when the Blue Jays are playing there?
Frank Ransom is here for the rest of the year. rosters go to 40 in 10 days. He is not going anywhere.
That’s it in Toronto. Really wanted to win it for you guys (but mostly for us). The Jays will try again tomorrow with Litsch.
Why couldn’t we have done what we did in the 9th during the first 7 innings to give Moose the win? Damn this team.
We’ve got the 1st 7 guys in the lineup hitting .295 or better and the last two with homers today. Keep this 9th inning lineup for tomorrows game.
Pavono sighting = energized team.
Run to the Hills. Carl sighting
Nice win
I’m surprised carl hasnt developed shoulder tightness just standing next to Joba.
Hey look! We took the series opener!
Mussina gets the win? I wasn’t watching the game
Good blogging tonight everybody i’ll see everyone tomorrow. Go Yankees!
Go Hansom Ransom!!
How is it possible that the Yankees have 6 starters batting over .295 right now and still have such an anemic offense???
Has Pavano actually been seen in the dugout tonight, or was he wearing a disguise?
Angel:
The lowest point in Yankee stadium was when they booed the Canadian national anthem. You guys have come a long way since then.
Angel, in response to whether Hughes’ tired arm is usual for a pitcher just rounding his arm into shape, yes, and you seem to be the only one questioning Hughes that realize that.
and Veras gets the win
lol poor Moose
Re: Phil, He’s still only 22. What I’m concerned about now is not whether he’s an ace, a #2, 3 or 5, but the fact that right now he has absolutely regressed and doesn’t look like a major league pitcher, period. You just don’t wake up one day and lose your talent, stuff and command; it just doesn’t work that way. Something has gone terribly wrong with Phil and the Yankees have to fix it. He needs to be remade, possibly an overhaul needs to be done. Send him down to A ball and start completely over with him. The talent is there – it just doesn’t evaporate overnight- and it’s up to the Yankees (and Phil, but he’s a hard worker and I don’t worry about him in that way) to bring it out of him.
Uhh, tbh this is none of my business, but JB your a Blue Jays fan..why arent u on your own board?
That’s it in Toronto. Really wanted to win it for you guys (but mostly for us). The Jays will try again tomorrow with Litsch.
JB it’s cool, we choked it up over there, they have no one to blame but thierselves. Heck tomorrow they may forget how they won and lose 2-0 or something like that.
Just ballparking it, but if you want me to count out the years I’d be more than happy to.
My point is simple. The Jays blew out the Yankees. So have your fun. That’s expected. But keep it reasonable. You’re not the Red Sox or Mets. There were a lot of kids at that game and in my opinion there was too much hatred circulating the ballpark of a team that’s been nowhere close to competing. It wasn’t just a few incidents. It was all game. Constantly.
That’s just the way it is. I didn’t make it that way.
I’m surprised he hasn’t needed the heimlich from someone for choking on a sunflower seed, or that he hasn’t tripped over one, lol.
Whatever, if he’s going to pitch tomorrow then I hope he’s healthy and pitches decently, for the sake of the team laundry.
WELCOME BACK CARL!
He looks relaxed, the team looks happy, let it be. We need him to win games for us. Period. He is still a NYY.
Breaking News: Pavano just injured himself thinking.
Length of Injury: Season Ending.
How about we bench Giambi and play Ransom for a week and see what happens, eh?
Too bad Giambi has naked pics of Girardi’s wife so we all know the big suck will be back in the 5 hole tomorrow night.
Ransom in his previous 5 years playing for Giants and Astros had 140 AB’s and 3 homers-now at 142 AB’s and 5 homers!!!
Matt, don’t know about you, but as long as fans of other teams post civilly – I’ve got zero problem with them posting here.
Sometimes they’re more reasonable than Yankee fans, lol.
We have solidified our hold on 3rd place!
The Twins have a tough matchup in Los Angeles of Anaheim!
I am! The best Bluejays board is battersbox.ca Check it out!
I like talking baseball with intelligent fans from all over. I just came here right now to give you the bad news here.
Breaking News: Pavano just injured himself thinking.
Length of Injury: Season Ending.
JB (Blue Jays Fan)
August 22nd, 2008 at 10:28 pm
“That’s it in Toronto. Really wanted to win it for you guys (but mostly for us). The Jays will try again tomorrow with Litsch.”
JB, I don’t make predictions or try to talk trash….just saying that Lester has been pitching very well lately and it won’t be easy to get a win against him.
If Burnett or Halladay was pitching it would be a lot more likely.
Oh, no postgame. That’s okay. It’s all good.
Nice win, I wish we could have gotten Moose the victory, but I’ll take it all day. We now carry a 1-game winning streak into PAVANO THE RETURN!!! And for some reason, my eerie confidence that he will pitch a good game tomorrow remains.
Ransom isn’t going anywhere?
So when he starts batting to his career .260 minor-league AVG or so they won’t send him down for someone like Miranda… or even bring Melky back up should he perform.
How is it possible that the Yankees have 6 starters batting over .295 right now and still have such an anemic offense???
It’s all about stranding runners. The glaring problem of what this season has been about.
it’s too bad that Mussina didn’t get that win… he really deserved it.
True Angel, sometimes a smart rival fan is better then a retarded hometown fan.
G. Love
How about waive Giambi and hope that some team is stupid enough to claim him-nothing wanted in return!!!
If Girardi keeps trotting the bloated corpse of Giambi out in the starting lineup this season, he does not want to win.
You could spout OPS to me all day and night, but he has options for 1b that do not include the giant ball of goo with a stache.
By the way, did anyone notice that Giambi wasn’t on the bench when Ransom and X went back to back? Guess he was in the clubhouse doing something more important.
SJ had it right — Giambi is a me guy and he’s playing like a me guy trying to hit homers to pad his stats.
I’d release him now, pay the buyout and bring up Miranda and platoon him with Ransom.
Can’t be worse the old wooden Indian we are currently calling our 1b.
oh, JB you might have a new reason to hate us. There’s talk about Burnett opting out and signing with either Us, or someone like St. Louis or the Mets.
G. Love, Giambi wasnt on the bench because he was too busy cleaning his lucky thong.
Note: Both of ARod’s doubles were in ‘clutch’ situations, despite the fact that neither were with the magical ‘RISP’. Just, uh, FYI.
Frank:
You may not consider us rivals, but we consider you and the Red Sox as out most hated rivals. We would be the big dogs in any other division and we hate that. We hate that after Labatts sold the brewery to Interbrew, the Belguins took us from being the highest spending team to one of the lowest. Now we are back that Ted Rogers bought the team but he can’t keep up with the Steinbrenners. Yes, that is envy.
Matt-Where is that rumor coming from Burnett to Yankees, Cardinals or Mets in offseason??
I dislike trolls as much as the next person, but JB hasn’t been one of those at all – from what I’ve seen of his posts.
He’s also probably Canadian, so I’m extra understanding of him.
Channel 9 Wrap Up Tease
“We’ll go back to Baltimore after the commercial and talk with Michael and Kenny about what is wrong with A-Rod”
Was he our biggest problem tonight?
Tampa Bay now leading the White Sox 6-2….they refuse to slow down!
Burnett is gone for sure. The media here hate him. The problem is that only seasons he does not have injuries is when he is a free agent. Buyer beware!
Seriously, why are we showing Giambi any respect? His contract has been an albatross, he’s not producing, he’s awful in the field….why is this organization showing a guy who should not be here next season this kind of respect and deference?
Waive him. Bench him. Let him go to the Angels or someone else . Who cares.
We’ll win more games with X batting 5 and Matsui 6 the rest of the year.
And at least Ransom can catch up to a major league fastball. Giambi only hits 88mph fastballs out.
Betsy – the Yankees rushed Hughes in the first place. Then he lost 80% of two different seasons in his development due to injury. And in the past year, they have toyed with him– i.e new mechanics, teaching him the cutter, telling him to get more GBs and less Ks etc.
Basically, he has not progressed at all in 2 years. Infact, he has regressed from the pitcher he was in Trenton who got tons groundballs and tons of strikeouts and possessed impeccable command.
They toyed with him too much and realized he may be messed up and it appears now they are trying to “salvage” what they can of him and now don’t care about his ceiling but just to get him to the point where he can pitch in the majors. He looks like a shell of what he was in Trenton.
This team canm piss you off I mean really piss you off.
Arod and his hard hands..it’s like he wants to tell the bat “I’m stronger than you !” and all he does is cheats away his power stroke like that, my god if this man when he seduces a woman to his room handles her in the sheets like he handles a bat the woman would be placed on the 15 DL immediately the day after every time.
“if Blue Jays right-hander A.J. Burnett opts out of his contract, the Cardinals, Nationals and Orioles all will be on his wish list, just as they were when he was a free agent after the 2005 season. Burnett, 31, is likely to re-enter the market — he’s 7-1 with a 2.89 ERA in his last eight starts, and his 13-strikeout, one-walk victory over the Yankees on Tuesday ranked as one of the best performances of his career. The Jays, though, aren’t in a helpless position: They could make a pre-emptive bid to retain Burnett by increasing his $12 million salary in 2009 and ’10 each and/or extending his contract. Burnett is fond of Toronto, close with fellow right-hander Roy Halladay and a fan of manager Cito Gaston. But he will have other options despite his 4.51 ERA. Burnett hit it off with Cardinals manager Tony La Russa the last time he was a free agent and the Cardinals could have openings in their rotation if they lose Kyle Lohse and/or Braden Looper in free agency. The Orioles and Nationals appeal to Burnett because he makes his home in Monkton, Md. — his wife, Karen, is a Maryland native. In fact, Burnett’s contract entitles her to eight round-trip limousine trips per season between Monkton and Toronto. How all this will play out is anyone’s guess. The Orioles might not be ready to pursue a big-money starting pitcher in free agency and both the Jays and Nationals could hire new general managers after the season. One other thing: Burnett, like any self-respecting free agent, also would consider the New York teams, both of whom will pursue starting pitchers this offseason.”
– From Ken Rosenthal’s fox blog
link : http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....8;ATT=3498
Moose should just be glad he didn’t get a loss. He really had to battle out there. Hopefully Girardi will shuffle the rotation and let him pitch Wednesday against Byrd instead of Thursday against Lester, so he can get an extra start at the end of the season.
“The lowest point in Yankee stadium was when they booed the Canadian national anthem. You guys have come a long way since then.”
Oh wow, I actually remember that. God I hated the Blue Jays that summer; IIRC that was the year Yanks were tied with them for about a month and couldn’t climb above them, right? We have come a long way since then, but even then I think Boston fans were the most classless in the division, and we certainly all know that they still are now!
“This team canm piss you off I mean really piss you off.
Arod and his hard hands..it’s like he wants to tell the bat “I’m stronger than you !†and all he does is cheats away his power stroke like that, my god if this man when he seduces a woman to his room handles her in the sheets like he handles a bat the woman would be placed on the 15 DL immediately the day after every time.”
Did they lose? Did ARod go 0/6 with 6 Ks? Am I missing something?
JB: Convince your team to move to the NL.
I was still wondering that after Pat’s comment, Someone Else.
Now I’m really confused.
Did they lose? Did ARod go 0/6 with 6 Ks? Am I missing something?
I’m talking about all year, really the thing I noticed tonight is in the 8th inning he didn’t squeeze the dust out of the bat and then there you had it a legit frozen rope. Actually 2.
Dave D
It will be interesting to see who becomes an effective major league pitcher first, Hughes or Bucholtz?
I wish Rebecca!
You have to love those Rays, but I think that loving is going to get really tired in the next few years because they are going to get better. If they decide to add free agents to compliment the players coming up it could be a five year dynasty.
The Hughes saga is just a continuation of the miscalculations and incompetence that has pervaded this organization for the past 2 years. This is why SJ is 100% right and there needs to be some 3rd party evaluation.
The whiffs of Cole/Inoa and the overall regression of the farm system along with the problems of the major league team show that something is wrong somewhere. How could so much go wrong?
Pudge did catch Pavano in the 03 WS, maybe they re-kindle that flame.
Also, time to bench Giambi
ray (sox fan):
Check out my 9:29 post.
Hughes will be a great pitcher.
Don’t forget that Halladay was considered a “bust” in Toronto for his first two seasons. If you don’t want to wait that long, we will offer you some bullpen help.
Ouch Hughes got bombed tonight, 8 runs in only 3.1 innings. He did have 6 K’s and only on walk. It sounds like he got pretty unlucky in the 2nd when he gave up 4 runs. This is why you don’t bring him up to the majors yet, he’s coming off a pretty significant injury. It will take him some time to get back into the swing of things. Leave him at AAA so he can get some innings and improve his changeup and cutter.
How did Mike do tonight? I see he didn’t get the win
Miranda is definitely coming up soon this guy is becoming tough to pitch to.
ray – I think Buchholz probably will, just because his problems appear to be mental and learning how to work off his FB rather than his change up (even though it is very good).
Hughes on the other hand, has so many injury/mechanic issues he needs to sort out. Now he has glasses, he had a rib injury this year, hamstring and ankle injuries last yr and assorted injuries before 06. Basically, 06 was his only healthy season and it is pretty alarming considering Hughes was considered to have an ideal pitchers frame (6’5/230) and a clean bill of health. Now he has new mechanics, his command is gone, his movement is not there either and his velocity is probably down a tick or 2.
Buchholz’ stuff is still there, he still struck out almost a batter per inning at the ML level. He needs to work on locating his FB and he should be good to go. Maybe slight refinement to his secondary pitches, but most of his problems come from his FB command. Now, I haven’t watched all his starts but in the starts I did see, that appears to be the case.
Hughes has far more issues that he needs to sort out.
JR Yankees
August 22nd, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Ray (sox fan):
“Don’t know if you’re around tonight, but does this look the probables for the Yanks/Sox series?
Tue: Pettitte vs. Beckett
Wed: Ponson vs. Byrd
Thu: Mussina vs. Lester
Predictions anybody?”
Hi Jr, I just read that posting.
I would guess that will be the probable pitchers for next week, assuming that Beckett is good to go. He threw some today and people said he felt good so we will see.
With Bucholtz being sent down it does present some scheduling challenges. It is being said that Wakefield could come back sometime next week, but from a Sox perspective I hope it isn’t against you guys. Too often after the first two innings it is like batting practice for you guys against Wake.
The other unknown is our old friend Bartolo Colon. In his last AAA start he pitched four hitless innings so who knows?
I don’t know why with Giambi playing this putrid they don’t bring up Miranda and give him a stint. Seriously, why are they acting like Giambi was a member of the dynasty years. He’s been a major disappointment and the team should release him to see what they have in Miranda.
Anyone at 1b is better than Giambi at this point.
Girardi is a moron if he keeps penciling his name into the lineup, let alone the 5 hole.
For some reason, I would love to see a Ponson-Colon matchup next week.
jen: Moose 4 runs through six.
Considering his 11 ERA against the O’s that was actually pretty decent. Should have gotten the win IMO.
COL 88
I know when he first got picked up by you guys there were a lot of jokes about Ponson, but he really has done a decent job for you guys even considering his last game.
In a Ponson-Colon matchup I would think Ponson would have the edge right now……although the poor pitching mound would take a beating.
JD Drew has a herniated disc test results not good.
http://theblogofchampions.com/.....son-plans/
pavano needs to give us a good outing tomorrow.
we need to sweep baltimore.
Kelvin De Leon looks like a young 50 Cent lol
Dave D, I think you may be right…….and that’s sad. I’ve said before that the Yankees have tinkered too much with Phil. I don’t trust them and I think they are in the process of ruining a fine talent.
It sickens me to say I hope Pavano does well tomorrow. :sick:
Also need I point out again how awful Sterling is.
He first said Nady was at bat, than he was totally confused about who batted. He didn’t notice that Ransom was in for defense, and his pathetic homerun call was handsome ransom. I mean, does he think Yankee fans want to hear his childish homerun calls.
Next when Nady hit his homerun he has in the gap, oh its gone!!
Does he pay attention to the game? Or is he too busy coming up with his calls?
First of all, I hope to see Miranda up soon too. I’m assuming September 1, and I want to see him play in that time! He deserves it more than Giambi & I hope he gets to face some playoff teams’ pitching in the process.
Second, “our old friend Colon” indeed!
Hopefully the Yankees will see him in the Boston series, he’ll always cure what ails ya!
Drew out for a while? Maybe the Sox will pick up Bonds! Probably better chance of Wakefield throwing a 100 mph fast ball.
jennifer I heard it. My god he is awful. He is like Arod in the clutch right now.
Jennifer: Ya gotta admit though, “handsome Ransom” was pretty high on the unintentional comedy scale! I LOL’d.
What the hell happened to Hughes tonight; Oh my God, I just looked at his line?
Carl speaks…
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....tion_.html
I hope to see Miranda up soon too. I’m assuming September 1, and I want to see him play in that time! He deserves it more than Giambi & I hope he gets to face some playoff teams’ pitching in the process.
I hope so too I mean his bat is fresher than Jason’s but lets be honest if Miranda comes up and plays the season is more likely over, this kid will never see time under Girardi’s watch especially over 5th spot G.
I was driving home trying to figure out what the heck was going on in the game. I had no idea what the score was.
Personally I liked the bet on Betiment call. Since you know betting is legal in baseball. What a fool he is.
kill- Go read Chad Jennings blog. Second four run inning wasn’t really his fault. cheap hits, and his defense stunk.
Damn, we’re not going to see him again this year, are we?
Maybe a token September call up after Scranton is eliminated from the playoffs.
What a f-ing shame!’
Is this guy ever going to fulfill the hype? I’ve never been more skeptical than now.
What the hell happened to Hughes tonight; Oh my God, I just looked at his line?
Jennings said alot of cheap hits and a lunge out excuse me HR it still doesn’t excuse that line.
girardi doesn’t bench giambi because he is a nice guy, he always says the right things, doesn’t complain, and is a good person.
if he was a prick, he would have been benched by now. see posada who was taken out from behind the plate after one bad game because he was chirping a lot to the media and that ticked off girardi.
or kennedy who was banished to the minors after his stupid comments.
damon is the next guy who might go to girardi’s dughouse hopefully soon so we can see gardner and can avoid his deplorable defense in center.
The other night listening to the Jays game in the car, Sterling says Jeter bunts down the 3rd baseline and left everyone hanging for 30 seconds whether it was a hit,out or foul ball while he told a story and then said the count is 0-1. 2 batters later A-Rod hit a fly to center and he started his HR call. At that point, I shut the radio
I also heard him Call Ransom Jason. Because you know they bat from the same side of the plate, and can easily be confused.
No excuses for Hughes. Kennedy was a victim of terrible defense against the Angels too and was blooped to death in that 3rd inning, yet everybody wanted him gone while Hughes gets a pass.
We field 7 DHs every night too, so its not like he has better defense up here.
He did give up 3 doubles and HR, and a walk/HBP so even if a couple of those infield balls were fielded, he still would have given up 6 runs in 3 innings to the worst team in AAA who just faced him last week. Hardly a consolation prize. He was awful tonight either way.
First batter: Jon Knott homered by lunging at a pitch and getting just enough of it to carry over the wall in left.
Second batter: Jason Jaramillo singled on a ground ball just past second baseman Chris Basak.
Third batter: Chris Snelling grounded a changeup for a routine double-play ball, but first baseman Juan Miranda dropped the throw from second and Snelling reached on a fielder’s choice. One out.
Fourth batter: T.J. Bohn was hit by a pitch.
Fifth batter: Mike Rouse slapped a single into shallow left field. Barely got enough of it to get over the shortstop’s head. Bases loaded, still one out.
Sixth batter: Brandon Watson slapped a double just over the third baseman and into the left field corner. Two runs scored, runners to second and third, still one out.
Seventh batter: Oscar Robles grounded out to third. I think Eric Duncan should have thrown home and the scout sitting next to me agreed there would have been a play at the plate, but Duncan played it safe and the run scored. Two outs.
Eighth batter: Mike Cervenak, just sent down from Philly, struck out.
Obviously it wasn’t a good inning, but it really wasn’t a bad one. Two bloopers, a ground ball with eyes and a home run that somehow carried enough to leave the yard. Hughes is sitting 91-93 with his fastball, he’s thrown a few good changeups and his curveball is making some guys look silly. But a four-run inning is a four-run inning.
Sounds like bad defense and cheap hits to me plus dead arm
Lets see if Hughes saids he was happy w. his start 
Question – who’s pitching for LAA and why didn’t we get to see this guy?
Ponson vs. Colon?
Are we talking baseball or sumo wrestling?
Big Unit – 7 IP, 13 Ks vs. the Marlins tonight
Aardvark -
We did. His name is Joe Saunders, the guy who shut us down for 7 innings in the series finale. We had him on the ropes in the 1st inning and predictably, we let him off and he cruised the rest of the game.
Question – who’s pitching for LAA and why didn’t we get to see this guy?
Joe Saunders and the Twins are small balling and situational hittim them to death. Delmon Young has turned into Howie Kendrick to them and Denard Span is Chone Figgins.
im so jealous of the twins, i wish we could play the way they do.
Good win tonight…goodnight all.
im so jealous of the twins, i wish we could play the way they do.
Me too but we are eternally stuck w/ superstars that can’t play the game the right way.
a jax left the game with a stiff back
ajax left the game with a stiff back
“He had a little stiffness in his back,†said manager Tony Franklin.
“There’s no sense in leaving him in there and having him tighten up, so we got him out of there and brought him in.â€
While this doesn’t appear to be serious, it’s something worth keeping an eye on, and also something I hope to have more about tomorrow.
Tony Franklin w. an organizational move there.
“and a home run that somehow carried enough to leave the yard”
LOL, I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a fanboy. I’m surprised he didn’t go on to say it most likely wasn’t Hughes pitching, rather someone disguised as Hughes. A cheap homerun that went over the WALL. That’s comical. He’d look MUCH more intelligent just saying Hughes was bad.
Pete, since you were complaining there are no good movies out there, go see “Momma’s Man,” best film of the year. Beware: may require some neuron power.
Bowa talks about Cano
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....miss-bowa/
If anyone is interested in seeing Yu Darvish, he might be coming in to face usa in the bronze medal game. live stream @ nbcolympics.com
“With Japan now down by four, Darvish is getting bypassed and Naruse is in as the replacement for Kawakami.”
Moose on the ball he caught that was hit right back at him:
“I didn’t have time for flashbacks,†Mussina said. “I just got my glove up and it went in my glove. I mean, I saw it the whole time. But if the guy’s going to hit it hard, hit it hard somewhere else besides back at me. He can get a hit, I don’t care. Just don’t hit me with it. I’m too old for that.”
you know as much as i love moose, to me he always gave off kind of a mean vibe, but once in awhile i read a quote from him that makes me laugh, it always good to know that the players you root for arent complete a-holes
with a 5 run lead win- its only a save becasue mo came in the 8th when it was a save situation, right?
with the 5 run lead win- its only a save becasue mo came in the 8th when it was a save situation, right?
Yes, final score has no bearing in that situation, just that it was a save situation when Mo came in and he then completed the game.
If Girardi had put Edwar in for the bottom of the 9th, no save for anyone.
Send Hughes to A-Ball like the Tigers did with Willis.
Even Ian Kennedy never got shelled like this by AAA hitters.
But knowing the Yankees, they’ll probably leave him in AAA instead and teach him a splitter next and ask him to re-find his slider and scrap the curve while wearing contacts only during day games while throwing from the 3/4 arm slot!!
Yeah I think that yankees are having some trouble Biden is Obama’s vp.
We can still make the playoffs if we sweep both series against the Redsox.. Maybe Hughes and Pavano light a fire on the team.
Yu Darvish is now in.