Comments on: The two best quotes of the night http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/ A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:07:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Yankee2123 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/comment-page-3/#comment-510617 Yankee2123 Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:32:37 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/#comment-510617 Hey, that almost qualified as a quality start! Maybe he'll go six next time! What a guy! Hey, that almost qualified as a quality start! Maybe he’ll go six next time! What a guy!

]]> By: Martin http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/comment-page-3/#comment-510588 Martin Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:07:05 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/#comment-510588 All this has been said before, but I'll say it again. While it is true that Carl hasn't pitched much for the Yankees when they were hopeful that Carl would be a big contributor, I think that the amount of negativity surrounding Carl has been way out of proportion. The $10 million per year that the Yankees got very little in return for did not destroy their payroll for the four years they're paying him. It's not like the payroll was at the level of the Marlins and the lack of return seriously handcuffed the Yankee's ability to field a competitive team. Contrearas/Weaver/Vasquez/Johnson was much more costly with an equally less than expected return. Carl gets blasted when he is really hurt (requiring Tommy John surgery), he gets blasted when fans think that he is faking injury and he isn't tough enough to play through it, even though they have no idea what the extent of the injury really is (buttocks) and he also gets blasted when he tries to play through an injury but he can't (rib - although it was not a baseball related injury). You can't change your position back and forth just to dump on Carl. How different is what's happened to Carl from what's been happening to Phil? I agree that Carl has been a disappointment. That doesn't automatically mean that he hasn't been trying. Sometimes things work out the way you want and sometimes they don't. Welcome to life. All this has been said before, but I’ll say it again.

While it is true that Carl hasn’t pitched much for the Yankees when they were hopeful that Carl would be a big contributor, I think that the amount of negativity surrounding Carl has been way out of proportion.

The $10 million per year that the Yankees got very little in return for did not destroy their payroll for the four years they’re paying him. It’s not like the payroll was at the level of the Marlins and the lack of return seriously handcuffed the Yankee’s ability to field a competitive team. Contrearas/Weaver/Vasquez/Johnson was much more costly with an equally less than expected return.

Carl gets blasted when he is really hurt (requiring Tommy John surgery), he gets blasted when fans think that he is faking injury and he isn’t tough enough to play through it, even though they have no idea what the extent of the injury really is (buttocks) and he also gets blasted when he tries to play through an injury but he can’t (rib – although it was not a baseball related injury). You can’t change your position back and forth just to dump on Carl.

How different is what’s happened to Carl from what’s been happening to Phil?

I agree that Carl has been a disappointment. That doesn’t automatically mean that he hasn’t been trying.

Sometimes things work out the way you want and sometimes they don’t. Welcome to life.

]]> By: rover http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/comment-page-3/#comment-510572 rover Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:56:19 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/#comment-510572 The next 33 games could very well change minds on Pavano. It is easy to question the dedication factor. I don't ever remember the front office saying anything that would question the legitmacy of Carls injuries. Disappointment and frustration yes. Given what it takes to ever put on a mlb uniform let alone stay in one then end up in a Yankee uniform belies lack of dedication. It is unfortunate for us and Carl that his career with NY has gone as it has. Would be ironic if Carl gets his share of wins during regular season helping us to the wc. Even more ironic if he were to have a very solid post season. Stranger things have happened. Pardon me if I root long and hard for the dude every time he is on the hill. Have fun with the past if you wish. However the future remains to be seen and I for one prefer it to be bright. Go Carl. The next 33 games could very well change minds on Pavano. It is easy to question the dedication factor. I don’t ever remember the front office saying anything that would question the legitmacy of Carls injuries. Disappointment and frustration yes.
Given what it takes to ever put on a mlb uniform let alone stay in one then end up in a Yankee uniform belies lack of dedication. It is unfortunate for us and Carl that his career with NY has gone as it has.
Would be ironic if Carl gets his share of wins during regular season helping us to the wc. Even more ironic if he were to have a very solid post season. Stranger things have happened. Pardon me if I root long and hard for the dude every time he is on the hill. Have fun with the past if you wish. However the future remains to be seen and I for one prefer it to be bright. Go Carl.

]]> By: RockinDaBronx http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/comment-page-3/#comment-510562 RockinDaBronx Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:26:29 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/#comment-510562 I just heard, that after reading several posts Pavano was placed on the DL with hurt feelings. I just heard, that after reading several posts Pavano was placed on the DL with hurt feelings.

]]> By: Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: My "True Yankee" List From The Last 35 Years) http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/comment-page-3/#comment-510559 Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: My "True Yankee" List From The Last 35 Years) Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:52:03 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/#comment-510559 USA - 31 Spain - 25 USA – 31

Spain – 25

]]> By: Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: My "True Yankee" List From The Last 35 Years) http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/comment-page-3/#comment-510557 Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: My "True Yankee" List From The Last 35 Years) Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:50:22 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/#comment-510557 USA - 28 Spain - 25 USA – 28

Spain – 25

]]> By: pavanoisgod http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/comment-page-3/#comment-510556 pavanoisgod Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:46:29 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/#comment-510556 pavano pitched great pavano pitched great

]]> By: Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: My "True Yankee" List From The Last 35 Years) http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/comment-page-3/#comment-510554 Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: My "True Yankee" List From The Last 35 Years) Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:40:58 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/#comment-510554 13-9 Spain. Early 1st quarter. 13-9 Spain. Early 1st quarter.

]]> By: Tin http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/comment-page-2/#comment-510550 Tin Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:30:08 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/#comment-510550 it was a joke that Pavano said? it was a joke that Pavano said?

]]> By: Nick in SF http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/comment-page-2/#comment-510549 Nick in SF Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:23:55 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/08/23/the-two-best-quotes-of-the-night/#comment-510549 Ah, to be young and hyper-serious about the amusing quotes of professional athletes again... I don't hate Carl Pavano. I'm glad he was able to give the Yankees 5 innings without getting shelled. I hope he can repeat/improve upon his performance the next time out. His quote made me laugh. His quote made a lot of people laugh, apparently. I can only speak for myself, but I was not grasping for something to laugh at regarding Carl. The past cannot be changed. I will root for Carl every time he takes the mound, but I reserve the right to laugh at his checkered history until the the cows come home, at which time I expect them to laugh at his too. If he goes on to rebuild his career and have success somewhere, good for him -- then the last laugh will be his. In this case, I think you're just off DFox. Finding the quote amusing is not evidence of irrational Pavano hatred. But if you want to comment on the Yankees in a Pavano-joke-free zone, this is probably not the blog for you. Ah, to be young and hyper-serious about the amusing quotes of professional athletes again…

I don’t hate Carl Pavano. I’m glad he was able to give the Yankees 5 innings without getting shelled. I hope he can repeat/improve upon his performance the next time out.

His quote made me laugh. His quote made a lot of people laugh, apparently. I can only speak for myself, but I was not grasping for something to laugh at regarding Carl.

The past cannot be changed. I will root for Carl every time he takes the mound, but I reserve the right to laugh at his checkered history until the the cows come home, at which time I expect them to laugh at his too. If he goes on to rebuild his career and have success somewhere, good for him — then the last laugh will be his.

In this case, I think you’re just off DFox. Finding the quote amusing is not evidence of irrational Pavano hatred. But if you want to comment on the Yankees in a Pavano-joke-free zone, this is probably not the blog for you.

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