Game 130: Yankees at Orioles
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- August
- 24
YANKEES (69-60)
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
A. Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Nady LF
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
I. Rodriguez C
Rasner RHP
ORIOLES (61-67)
Roberts 2B
Markakis RF
Mora 3B
Huff DH
Millar 1B
Monanez LF
Payton CF
Quiroz C
Castro SS
Cabrera RHP
Darrell Rasner (5-9, 4.93) vs. the Baltimore hitters.
Daniel Cabrera (8-8, 4.98) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees have won 5 of 7 and are seeking a three-game sweep of the Orioles. … The Yankees start the day five games behind Boston in the wild-card race. … The Yankees are 3-2 on a road trip that ends today. … The team is off tomorrow and starts a three-game series at home against the Red Sox on Tuesday.
A TALE OF TWO PITCHERS: Daniel Cabrera is 3-0, 3.15 in three starts against the Yankees. He is 5-8, 5.23 in his other 24 starts.
JUST WALK HIM: Nick Markakis is 10 of 13 with four extra-base hits in his career against Rasner. That’s a 1.940 OPS. Oddly, he has driven in just one run.
HAS ANYBODY SEEN DAMASO? Marte has appeared in two of the last nine games, throwing 12 pitches and getting two outs. It’s time to ask Joe Girardi is he’s hurt. Check back for the answer later.
CAPTAIN CONSISTENT: Derek Jeter is 19 of 41 and has a nine-game hit streak.
CASTAWAY: Wilson Betemit has appeared in four games and had three at-bats since Aug. 13. Cody Ransom has become the defensive replacement at first base.
GODZILLA ON THE PROWL: Hideki Matsui is only 3 for 18 since he came back. But those three hits are two homers and a double, worth four RBI.
SEE YA: The Yankees have hit 12 homers in the last six games. Then again, they’ve walked only five times in the last five games and whiffed 49 times.
CLOSING TIME: The bullpen has thrown seven scoreless innings in this series.
Check back later for updates.
UPDATE, 12:13 p.m.: Joe Girardi said Damaso Marte is fine. Marte didn’t quite say that. “I needed to rest,” he said. “But I’m OK now.”
Hmm.
In other news, Joba Chamberlain will throw 35 pitches in the bullpen tomorrow, which is only five more than he threw yesterday. Joba hoped he would be closer to 50. The Yankees are clearly going to be extra, extra cautious with him.
Not much else to tell you. It’s usually pretty uneventful before day games.
UPDATE, 1:51 p.m.: Hey, Rasner got Markakis out. That’s four times in 14 at-bats.
UPDATE, 1:58 p.m.: The O’s have gone back to back five times this season, four of them coming against the Yankees.
Here’s the thing I don’t understand about Rasner. He was taken out of the rotation after a poor performance on July 29 against Baltimore. Then Ian Kennedy stunk it up in Anaheim, so Rasner got a second chance. Not really because of anything he did.
So now the Yankees are trying to stay alive and they’re starting a guy whose 5-9 with a 4.93 ERA.
UPDATE, 2:11 p.m.: Here is my professional sportswriter analysis of Daniel Cabrera: He doesn’t have a blessed clue where the ball is going.
UPDATE, 2:48 p.m.: They have a day off tomorrow. Rasner needs to be on a short leash. Meanwhile Pudge Rodriguez is 2 of his last 17 and has one RBI as a Yankee in 44 ABs.
UPDATE, 3:14 p.m.: Why is Bobby Abreu halfway to third on Giambi’s fly ball to deep center? It was either a home run or a catch. He should have tagged up and gone to third.
It didn’t matter when Nady got the double. But it’s another example of how poorly the Yankees have run the bases this season.
Meanwhile, anybody who thinks Cabrera is throwing at A-Rod doesn’t understand baseball. He had no idea where the ball was going and rarely does.
UPDATE, 3:54 p.m.: David Robertson is going to have earn this win. Meanwhile, Jose Veras has thrown 32 pitches the last two days and Rivera 25. Veras might be out and Mo limited to one inning.
This one isn’t ending 7-5, that’s for sure.
UPDATE, 4:03 p.m.: Like I said. And that was before I knew Edwar Ramirez was coming in to pitch.
Kicking away a 7-2 lead against a last-place team is not a particularly good sign, is it?
UPDATE, 4:22 p.m.: Edwar Ramirez has allowed 12 home runs in 67.2 innings in the majors. He’s a useful guy in sports but he’s a tough guy to trust late in games against good hitters.
UPDATE, 5:01 p.m.: The well-rested Damaso Marte just got two huge outs. I would think he stays in for the 8th inning, nobody warming up.
This game is so long that A-Rod had to get his hair frosted again in the 6th inning.
UPDATE, 5:06 p.m.: With all due respect to Damaso Marte, the Yankees would be wise to score a few runs here. Like five.
UPDATE, 5:08 p.m.: And just I finish that update, Giambi grounds into a double play.
UPDATE, 5:11 p.m.: Now that Boston has beat Toronto in extra innings, the Yankees cannot afford to let this game slip away. They need to go home with some momentum, not a terrible loss.
UPDATE, 5:17 p.m.: They’re asking a lot of Mariano here. 1.1 innings and 15 pitches on Friday, 1 inning and 10 pitches yesterday and now 1.1 innings today. It’s not the pitch count that gets closers, it’s the up and downs.
But what choice does Girardi have? They have to win games and they burned out the bullpen thanks to Rasner and Pavano.
UPDATE, 5:37 p.m.: That’s a three-game sweep for the Yankees, who have won six of eight overall. It got a little hairy there at the end, didn’t it?
Super work by the bullpen in this series: two runs over 12.2 innings.
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A win today would be really really amazing.
todays win means a winning road trip which is an absolute must right now.
if we can somehow trim the lead to 4 games going into the series against the sox this week i like that we wil have our destiny in our own hands heading into oct.
Man, I want to see this game except I have a tee-time to make.
Go Yankees!
A win today would be more than amazing.
Going home on a high of a road sweep only to face the Sox head to head:
Pettitte vs. Wakefield
Ponson vs. Byrd
Mussina vs. Lester?
We tend to knock around Wake and Giambi is a one man wrecking crew against Byrd. Lester got schooled in Toronto yesterday but he has pitched against us well. However, he may be tiring as he approaches 170IP for the first time I think. And, obviously Mussina will give us a shot to win that game anyway. I like out chances in all 3 games against Boston.
I won’t say anything about the Boston series, but it may well be our season right there
To focus on the positives –
Brian Bruney, Hideki Matsui, Cody Ransom. These are 3 clutch performers we have now that we didn’t have 2 weeks ago. They alone can’t push us into the playoffs, but they have certainly made a difference already.
It is intersting to see hwat happened to the line up since Matsui returned.
Before, the bottom part of the lineup was so weak, if the top of the line up failed, there was no hope. Now the line up is balanced and the only weak link if the catcher position, still IRod is not that bad.
If Pavano holds up, the pitching will be alright and with lineup doing well
“I won’t say anything about the Boston series, but it may well be our season right there”
Agree completely. I think we’ll know if our team is worthy of the playoff after this series. Frankly I didn’t think we were worthy after that 13 inning tough win over the Royals. I’d love to be proven dead wrong by thursday night. I’ll be at the game Tuesday, I can’t wait.
“I won’t say anything about the Boston series, but it may well be our season right there”
Could be. Today’s results go along way towards making it more true. Yankees can end up 4, 5 or 6 games in back of Boston by late this afternoon. If it’s 6, the Yankees must sweep Boston or it’s all over. If it’s 4 or 5, merely winning the series (thus reducing Boston’s lead to 3 or 4) would be enough.
Can’t forget the Twins and White Sox in all of this. Unfortunately, they play each other only three times in September, so they won’t be beating each other’s brains out as much as I’d hope.
it baffles my mine, on why we can’t beat this guy cabrera.he looks like crap against some teams,but against us he looks like j.r richards
The key to today’s game for the Yankees? DOn’t swing the bat1
“it baffles my mine, on why we can’t beat this guy cabrera.he looks like crap against some teams,but against us he looks like j.r richards”
It will be different today just like it was different with Guthrie yesterday.
BBFan i hope so
“Can’t forget the Twins and White Sox in all of this. Unfortunately, they play each other only three times in September, so they won’t be beating each other’s brains out as much as I’d hope.”
I believe our competition for WC will be with ChiSox.
We still have four games with them and they still have three games with Boston and LA. So, we get to control our destiny to a large extent.
Hey Pete, I’m curious, since you are a Patriot fan, is there any beat writers from the Journal thinking about doing a Giant blog similar to this one?
Today and 3 more like it this week would be a pretty nice way to get the race going.
“Brian Bruney, Hideki Matsui, Cody Ransom. These are 3 clutch performers we have now that we didn’t have 2 weeks ago.”
A little hyperbolic to put Ransom in the “clutch” category? He’s been a nice little bench player but come on.
sweep
The Yankees have to be patient against Cabrera. And Derek and Alex need to wear suits of armor up to the plate since Cabrera always seems to hit them with pitches.
“HAS ANYBODY SEEN DAMASO? Marte has appeared in two of the last nine games, throwing 12 pitches and getting two outs.”
“CLOSING TIME: The bullpen has thrown seven scoreless innings in this series.”
I think you answered your own question there. Damaso and his 10+ ERA can’t be put into games the Yankees need to win, and right now, that is every game. If the Yankees are up by 10 runs, maybe they can try running him out there, but so far he has not shown any ability to handle a game closer than that.
I’m trying to convince myself that a new positive mindset could be taking place with this team.
If they play their best fundamental baseball, it will reinforce my thinking.
How they score will be telling. If Giambi and A-Rod do the little things to win, it makes a statement. Continuing to swing for the fences sends a bad message. It has to be 25 players on the same page or 2009 talk becomes predominent.
If we can win today, I have HIGH hopes for the season. It’s pitchers like Cabrera who shut down our offence. If we can show patience at the plate, I’ll be very happy. I WANT TO SEE WALKS, PEOPLE!
I think we should give Wilson Betemit the start sometime soon. Cano had a great unassisted DP last night, but I haven’t been happy with his defence… deflate his balloon a little!
Hopefully Rasner keep them in the game and they find a way to beat Cabrera. Big series with the Red Sox coming up
Damaso Marte needs to be used for what he’s best suited for, a situational lefthander that comes in for one or two hitters.
David Robertson, Brian Bruney, Jose Veras, and Edwar Ramirez handle the other roles.
“If Pavano holds up, the pitching will be alright and with lineup doing well”
And if I hit the lottery I’ll be worth millions
I posted this down below but think it is repeat worthy up here:
Okay here is my gripe of the day.
I happen to think that the majority of the posters here are extremely baseball savvy, if not basically all. And I mean that sincerely. Not everyone is going to have the same perspective and some people want instant perfection, but I think that people understand baseball. They may just have different ways they want to get there.
That said, how in hell can’t people figure out that players who are just coming back
1. probably need some innings to get back into the groove
and
2. aren’t going to necessarily have their best performances first game out?
I couldn’t believe my eyes (okay I could but it still found it distressing) when some posters jumped on Matsui when he didn’t get hits his first AB; jumped all over Brian Bruney when he came back and didn’t have his best stuff; and jumped all over Pavano when he gave up some hits and runs in the first few innings?
Especially in the case of Pavano, how could you not figure out that the guy was probably dealing with nothing but a case of nerves for every reason possible and likely was going to overthrow and not locate his pitches too well for a few innings?
That lack of logic that is prevalent here when guys are just coming back absolutely defies reason, because this is not a stupid blog. Far from it.
Dats all for now.
If the Yankees don’t need him next year fine.But they still are gonna pick up that option.Marte a hard throwing lefty set-up man/closer for $6 million is a steal.
If Gagne can get $10 million this year Marte is worth something.
Exactly
Not to mention, Cashman traded a whole lot to get him in the package, I doubt they wanted him for 2 months and picks in a weak draft.
Relievers are year to year, Marte has a track record and is the lefty specialist we have been looking for.
“That lack of logic that is prevalent here when guys are just coming back absolutely defies reason, because this is not a stupid blog. Far from it.”
Trisha,
Have you never read this blog during a game the Yankees are losing, or right after a 2 game losing streak to the Royals?
This blog is hideous to read sometimes. If the Yankees don’t make the playoffs this year you are going to see stupidity in all it’s glory.
“I doubt they wanted him for 2 months and picks in a weak draft.”
One of the main reasons the Pirates moved Marte was fear that he’d accept arbitration after they turned down his $6M option.
well, i’ve wanted Giambi to move down in the lineup since he’s been in one of those slumps. but maybe last night shows he’s coming out of it – not just ‘cuz of the HR, but he smoked a ball to left too.
Giambi’s like the Batman villain Two-Face – he has some long periods where he’s a whiff/groundout-to-2nd machine and looks washed up; then all of a sudden he goes on a monstrous tear that helps carry the team and causes women to wear mustaches.
“That lack of logic that is prevalent here when guys are just coming back absolutely defies reason, because this is not a stupid blog. Far from it.”
You are as charitable as Mother Teresa. This is the same blog where people criticize SJ44 for writing too intelligently.
“I couldn’t believe my eyes (okay I could but it still found it distressing) when some posters jumped on Matsui when he didn’t get hits his first AB”
The other thing on Matsui is that people have to appreciate the fact that he came back this year. He probably best serves himself by getting his surgery in ASAP and coming back as strong as possible next year (his walk year). Instead, he’s put it off and is attempting to contribute to a playoff run that has a 50/50 chance of being a fool’s errand. That’s a team player at the highest level and the very definition of honorable.
““If Pavano holds up, the pitching will be alright and with lineup doing wellâ€
And if I hit the lottery I’ll be worth millions”
Did you check your lottery tickets from yesterday? You might have won a dime, check again
They need the sweep today, and then need to punch Boston in the mouth. Boston is ripe for the taking. If the Yanks stay in it, the Wild card could come down to those four games against the Sox next month…The White Sox!
“it baffles my [mind], on why we can’t beat this guy cabrera.he looks like crap against some teams,but against us he looks like j.r richardsâ€
The book on the Yankees all season has been: throw hard, down the middle, and they will get themselves out. It holds up. Sometimes being patient means an automatic 0-2 on every batter.
“I think you answered your own question there. Damaso and his 10+ ERA can’t be put into games the Yankees need to win, and right now, that is every game. If the Yankees are up by 10 runs, maybe they can try running him out there, but so far he has not shown any ability to handle a game closer than that.”
I don’t think this is right – Marte did not pitch in the blowout against Doc Halladay but did pitch in the win the following night in a close game (or right when the Yanks were blowing it open)
I think he should be in the mix for the 8th – but his numbers haven’t been tremendously encouraging.
“Damaso Marte needs to be used for what he’s best suited for, a situational lefthander that comes in for one or two hitters.”
I don’t think for a minute Cashman was thinking “left handed specialist” when he got Marte. This is a guy who was closing with the Pirates in the absence of Matt Capps and who before that was THE 8th inning guy for them. I think Cashman was expecting that kind of pitcher here. Veras, Ramirez and Robertson are decent relievers, but they are by no means automatic. Cashman believed he was getting something a lot closer to a shut down 8th inning pitcher than what he ended up with. This is not to say that Marte IS bad. He’s not. But he’s BEEN bad since he got to NYC.
I have a bad feeling that A-Rod better put on some extra armor today – Cabrerra seems to love plunking him (and Jeter too
)
Trisha and those fighting with her:
Enough. I’m sick of people insulting each other on this blog. That is not going to take hold here. I’ll delete such posts and if it keeps up, you’re out. Nobody else gives a crap. Either be adults or go someplace else.
“Enough. I’m sick of people insulting each other on this blog. That is not going to take hold here. I’ll delete such posts and if it keeps up, you’re out. Nobody else gives a crap. Either be adults or go someplace else.”
It is unfortunate it has to come to this.
There are too many kids and immature people here who write insultiang notes and then keep harping and harassing the people who want to have decent baseball discussion. I hope this sends a strong message to such people.
Pete –
I actually consider this an insult since I have not been insulting anybody.
Does it appear that I am more the insulter or the target? Or are you saying that it’s fine for everyone to take a dump on me but when I finally say something – which was relatively benign compared to the crap thrown at me – you will call me out?
Well I guess you did.
Thanks for that. Maybe an earlier public chastising of the morons who have been all over me would have made my response totally unnecessary.
Thanks for simmering everyone down Pete!
well, it’s no surprise that Girardi would lie to the press, but, now, he’s got his players lying too. I smell a conspiracy.
Trish, if you want to leave the blog we can converse over the phone about all subjects baseball
the point here i believe is that it takes two sides to keep the insults going and it might be better to rise above it instead of being 50 percent of the problem,go yankees.
So – How ‘bout them Yankees?
trisha- how old are you?
Kay interviewing Pavano on Yes right now for those interested.
Why do people care how old somebody is?
Why does it bother the constant complainers when eternal optimists refuse to trash any and every player for doing something that the whiners could only dream of. There’s nobody on these boards that has enough talent to even get a chance to be on a major league field to even give up a home run, make an error or strike out in a real ML game. Those are the real downers to sports boards.
We need this sweep for some big-time momentum going back to the Bronx against Boston.
o/t, but have they shown the gold medal game and ceremony on the east coast yet?
Pavano was straght forward in answering the questions about his injuries, and, once again gave his team all the credit for the win last night. He did remark again that he wasn’t happy with the 91 pitch, 5 innings, though. He also said that he wasn’t interested in talking about next year, only to help NYY win this year. He will pitch somewhere, though.
mel, if you’re asking about the basketball game, then yes, they showed it this morning.
Pav said all the right things in his interview with Kay: team, team, team (with humility), focused on this year (i.e., not pitching for a new contract), etc.
straight
Mel – I watched the game live at 2AM and they re-ran in this morning as well.
Is the Little League WS final today? Good luck to your team!
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/08/yankees_eyeing.html
Just came across this link. Has anyone heard any such rumors about Springsteen possibly closing Yankee Stadium?
The people who haven’t even managed a McDonalds giving out management advice are even more ridiculous and tiresome in my opinion. A modest suggestion from time to time, yes—but nobody who hasn’t managed 50 or so people successfully should bluster on and on day after day about how they’d manage the team.
Zach: Pete mentioned it the other day
Zach,
Pete posted something a couple of days ago about Springsteen or McCartney as the stadium closer. Rumor level, nothing final.
DON PRATT and others if your willing for a NY Giant or Jets coverage site I will have it at my site at: http://www.yanksgameday.blogspot.com
Zach, thanks for the link. Yeah Pete has mentioned it. He said Paul McCartney is also rumored.
The Boss all the way I say. No offense to Sir Paul but does he even know how many outs there are in an inning? Maybe I’m dead wrong and he’s a known baseball fan, but no one tops Springsteen for a super Yankee fan.
Fascinating blog entry by Buster Olney this morning on ESPN.com.
Spoke on how the entire industry is pulling back from giving long term deals to free agents over 30 in the Post-PED Era.
Also talked off the record to several executives who basically have a list of guys they suspect were PED users, got their big contracts, and couldn’t perform well once drug testing has taken hold.
It seems like the industry has been tracking player performances at given ages and they are going to use the data compiled to hold back making large commitments to players at certain ages and whom they suspect were PED users.
If these guys are serious about this, the middle class and the Over-35 crowd in MLB will be looking at short term offers in the off-season.
He also said that if CC wants to stay on the West Coast, he believes the Dodgers are the favorites to land him. Only if they decide to go “nine figures” on a free agent this off-season.
Perhaps that’s why we are beginning to hear AJ Burnett’s name involving the Yankees.
I could live with AJ if both Moose and Pettitte are back in 2009.
Wang, AJ, Moose, Pettitte and Joba isn’t a bad way to go if CC ends up going to the West Coast.
Dee,
Thanks, didn’t want to play spoiler. I’m reading the espn recap of the game and while I’m not surprised they won, I continued to be surprised at this gang. How a bunch of spoiled athletes behaved like, well, Olympians. They actually took off their medals and draped them all 12 on Coach K. Then did the same for the assistants. Pure class.
It was a very good Olympics for the team sports who with the exception of mens soccer all made it to the medal round. Very good Olympics, very good sportsmanship.
Congrats to Clay Stanley, Natasha Kai, Heather Bown, Kim Willoughby, Lindsey Berg, Robin Ah-Mow Santos, and to the greatest athlete in the world, Brian Clay.
“Maybe I’m dead wrong and he’s a known baseball fan, but no one tops Springsteen for a super Yankee fan.”
Billy Crystal?
Fran,
Yes, the LL game will be on ABC. Get this they’ll have a pre-game and a web gem show. Maybe some of Cano’s beauts will get in.
Good start for A.J. “don’t call me Carol” Burnett vs. the Sox.
Consider this an audition, A.J.
SJ,
If either Moose or Andy retire (maybe both). Do you think there would be any chance that the Yankees offer Pavano a one year incentive based contract if he pitches well for the rest of the year? I know a lot of Yankee fans hate Pavano. But I think Hughes needs to stay in Triple A next year to get his innings in, and get a 3rd pitch.
Eh. Only 2 K’s so far. Go, Canada!
99% of the problems on here are eliminated by requiring registration.
You have a handful of people who come on this board everyday, with different names each time, only to stalk and insult people. Its been happening all season.
Registration makes people more accountable over what they write, easier to track and/or ban when they get out of control, and will make the blog a more interesting and fun read. Especially on the gameday threads.
It won’t slow traffic on here. It will increase it.
Many of the good posters avoid the gameday threads once the game starts because they disinigrate with nonsense. This really takes hold once school is out for the summer.
I sincerely hope the powers that be change their minds and make registration a requirement after the season.
It will make a good blog even greater, IMO.
Re: Pavano? That’s a tough question..
I doubt the Yankees are going to pick up his 13 million dollar option.
If you are Pavano, why would you come back here?
I guess if the guy pitches the Yankees to a World Series this year, fans can chant “One more year” to him at the parade! lol
Seriously though, its probably best for all concerned to part ways after this season.
You have to think so much has happened behind the scenes that it would be tough for both parties to do business again.
SJ, as long as money runs these blogs and boards with advertising dollars, the quantity of hits will rule over the quality.
2-0 Jays on a Vernon Wells homer.
But Dice-K is still awesome.
Was watching the Mets game what ever happened to Reggie Abercrombie ? He was as 5 tool as any prospect. He still is a damn good route runner w/ speed and a gun for an arm but what ever happened to this guy’s bat ?
2-0 Jays on a Vernon Wells homer.
But Dice-K is still awesome.
Those will be the only 2 runs scored against Dice K today, Sox will win 5 – 2
Nico, hi, yeah I should have said musical act. I think Billy Crystal is already signed on to do the stadium closing. Maybe he’ll be the MC?
Mel, I’ve been thinking the same thing too. Not as much dancing in the end zone as I had expected, and a lot more class. The fact that they have called themselves the Redeem Team vs. the Dream Team set the tone early too. I fear they would phone in their performance, but you can tell they really cherish the win especially at the award ceremony.
Well The Lord Of The Long Flies (Matsuzaka) has given up a 2 ringer to wells.
GB,
Agreed. My contention is, advertising dollars won’t take a hit with registration. It will just eliminate most of the nonsense. As it has on other blogs.
I doubt advertisers want to be associated with nonsense. If its about hits, why not look to achieve both quality and quantity?
SJ there probably is a bit of animosity between the Yanks, and Carl. But I think if he finishes the season well, and is willing to take a low risk, low money 1 year deal they’d be hard pressed to turn him away. Assuming once again we lose either Mike or Andy. If they leave I honestly don’t see who we have to replace them.
“Those will be the only 2 runs scored against Dice K today, Sox will win 5 – 2”
What, the Jays can’t score after the 5th innings, when Dicey is gone?
It will be a tough call on Pavano if he pitches well the last 5 weeks. On the one hand, you want to believe, but on the other, how do you ignore the history? Maybe a one year deal, though I would think he would get better offers if he pitches well.
Yes, AJ Burnett has been on the DL at times, but there’s no doubting, I think, that he’s a competitor. I’d take him as a back-up plan if CC doesn’t pan out.
“I doubt advertisers want to be associated with nonsense.”
On behalf of Stilette and Lace, I take offense.
Even if Pavano pitches the Yanks to a world series title, I’d be seriously concerned about resigning him.
The Yanks can afford to pay Pavano for another year, but can they afford the insurance premiums?
i wouldn’t mind brunett at all if we fail to land CC.
SJ, registration hasn’t done a bit of good on the ESPN Yankee boards. The trolls run wild, because nothing is being done about it, because they outnumber fans 2-1. Money will rule these things, unless of course, you make the mods unhappy…especially with the truth.
““I doubt advertisers want to be associated with nonsense.â€
On behalf of Stilette and Lace, I take offense.”
Epic post
If even we get either AJ, or CC. If Moose or Andy walk we’d have CC or AJ, Wang, Joba, Moose, or Andy. That still leaves us with an open rotation spot. I have not given up on Phil, and still think he’ll be a great pitcher, but he won’t be ready for a full season in the bigs next year. Once again I’m only advocated signing Carl if Moose or Andy walk. I personally hope they’ll both come back next season.
The only type of contract that Pavano is likely to see over the next couple of years will be 1 year, low base, high incentive type of contract…maybe with a team option and no buyout.
No we’re not gonna see alot Kenny
mission: Beat Daniel Cabrera starts now!
Maybe Pavano will take a month-to-month contract.
After he rejects week-to-week.
That’s exactly the type of deal I’m talking about. I don’t see ANY team giving Pavano a multi-year deal. Even if he’s lights out down the stretch. There is just to much risk there for anyone. If we have a 5th spot open at the end of the season he is the best guy to fill it. He’s a very good pitcher when his butt isn’t bruised.
This is the first time all season they have followed the pregame plan of attack. Lets see is Stache also follows it.
Brandon, I think the question in your handle has been answered.
dammit ~!
good play by millar, that idiot can still play
Thanks Nick
good giambi… way to hit into the shift… for the 19 billionth time… don’t try to adjust or anything… moron.
The good news is that they followed the scouting report that 1st inning, first time I’ve seen that in awhile now executing is gonna be the tough part.
masn… have to listen to idiots all game…
Wondering when Girardi will decide that having Matsui up in those situations rather than Giambi would be a better fit. Seems to me that Matsui (or even Nady for that matter) are ready for that 5 spot…(sigh) what a season this has been.
Micheal Kay just can’t shut up..
i still don’t get why giambi doesn’t just bunt on the shift..for practical purposes, would it be any different than taking a walk?
Why can’t Burnett pitch well against anyone besides the Yankees? Oh great, good job Rasner.
Oh no, we all know what happens when they score first.
lol, they actually got a hit, Brandon. Being able to beat Cabrera would be the new question.
Can’t beat up Giambi on the out there. He had a quality at bat, just missed a 3R shot and Millar caught a line drive. That being said, Giambi should not be hitting 5th, but I get the feeling Joe G committed to the team that he keeps a consistent lineup.
sunny615
August 24th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
masn… have to listen to idiots all game…
You think so? I really dont mind these two guys compared to some of the other homers and poor announcers we get subjected to by the MLB package.
Uhh, Rasner, this isn’t how you beat Daniel Cabrera
Wow, everything turned crappy at once.
and there goes all the good feeling i had.
Rasner don’t have it… bad bad bad bad pitching
Chase Wright or Victor Zambrano are more then ready to pitch for this team.
Just great.
RobNY, I know there are worse announcers, but these guys aren’t that much fun to listen to…
Rasner is sucking hard right now.
Chase Wright or Victor Zambrano get ready for the bus ride
pavano pitched better.
who are our long relievers? Anyone warming up yet?
It’s great that Rasner tops out at 88mph with no command. He’ll really be successful.
Would you rather have Rasner or Hughes out there? Might as well get him some big league experience. He’s getting hit but he’s still throwing 92-93, he’s just missing his spots and going through a bit of dead arm. Rasner doesn’t have enough to get a good hitting team out.
now razz can’t even find the frickin’ strike zone… great.
Yeah when your team is losing it’s never fun listening to the other team’s guys lol Maybe Rasner can settle in if he can just get this third out here.
rasner is going for the hat-trick here.
Has Rasner got ahead in the count against any batter yet?
Rassner is lost out there… Just bad. When he is a little off, he has no stuff to rely on and fight through a game without his best stuff… On days like today its gonna get ugly… very ugly
ugh… ugly inning there for razz… he doesn’t have it today. unless he settles… it’s going to be a long game.
He can’t pitch in first innings. Never has, never will.
Just means they have to sweep the Sox at home this week, regardless of the outcome of this game.
The problem with Rasner is, he doesn’t give you a chance to win games in most of his starts.
When you are as offensively challenged as the Yankees have been this year, 2-0 first inning deficits are huge.
Unfortuately with Rasner, that’s the norm in most of his outings.
Not what you want when you need every game you can get.
Gotta hope the bats show up today. Looks like they will need at least 8 to offset this start.
Guys, it’s the second inning. This game isn’t exactly over yet.
Though Giambi’s inability to hit with RISP still bites
Let’s not get into panic mode yet, we were down on Friday night too. Cabrera is very hittable. No reason Rasner can’t settle down. The sky has not fallen yet.
Hughes has been awful in his last two AAA starts. Its not about velocity. Its about location and quality of pitches.
Hughes can’t get his secondary pitches over the plate and has no fastball command.
He is where he belongs. In the minors and should stay there the rest of the year.
He’s not the answer. Rasner just needs to pitch better.
Let’s also keep in mind that Rasner is here right now because Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, and Geise can’t/shouldn’t be.
Watching Cabrera throw is pretty scary. This guy is 6’9” 270lbs, with no control. Somebody is going to get hurt. Baltimore should have gotten a warning on that pitch to jeter in the 1st, given this guy’s history with the yankees.
Garbage player IMO
any idea when giese can be back. he is a good pitcher and person.
I hope Robi follows the gameplan
Some of you talk like its 5-0 in the bottom of the ninth. Cabrera will not shut us down today. 8 runs is on the horrizen.
SJ,
When we win today. I think we just have to take 2 of 3 from the sox and continue to win series. The month of Septemeber will be ours as usual.
Just got back (hopefully will bring some good luck to us and bad to the Sux!)
Did Rasner give up a ton of hits or was it a bloop and a blast?
When I saw Melvin Mora’s face last night I thought he was really hurt because he had this weird looking grimace. Seeing him today I guess he just wears that grin like he just ate a bowl of S*** all the time.
Rob NY, you know that Mora is the father of quintuplets.
Funny about these quirky pitchers. There are a handful I can think of who, when their stuff it totally on, are deadly. Yet other times they look terrible. Cabrera is one. Another is Victor Zambrano. Colombe as a reliever/closer.
And Robi follows the gameplan for once !
i told my 88 year old father that cabrera was pitching against rasner today.
he basically said “oh crap”.
then i said that rasner should buzz the first oriole hitter on the first pitch and then hit him on the second pitch. after warnings are sent to both teams, cabrera will either have to watch pitching inside or he’ll say to hell with it and drill a yankee.
either way, the yankees would have abetter chance than rasner vs. cabrera.
by the way,my father gave his stamp of approval on my dirty tactics.
Cano!!!!!
I’m glad I didn’t post the “you better take the next pitch, Robbie” that I was thinking.
I’m stuck watching MASN and the Oriole announcers on the baseball package. I actually think Jim Palmer is a real good color guy. Knows his stuff and gives the Yanks thier props.
Mel –
Congrats on your LL team’s comeback last night. We were at the Yankees game last night and they were showing the victory on the big scoreboard during I think pitching change and most of the players on the field were watching it.
We just got back from last night’s game about a half hour ago. Anyone who has the opportunity to see a Yankee game at Camden Yards has to do it; even if you don’t have the opportunity, try to make one – it’s a fantastic experience. And lots and lots of Yankees fans to enjoy it with.
Nick are you saying that being the father of quintuplets puts that S*** eating grin on his face all the time? lol
I love it when Cano steps it up!
So Cabrera is already on the ropes. Let’s see if the undisciplined hitters can make him work a little instead of swinging at the first pitch… um pudge, pull your head out.
Baltimore better get the pen up, Cabrera is toast. Palmer is saying his mechanics are a mess and his velocity is down 5mph and his command is bad as usual.
hard hit, no luck.
runs ?
Hey! Damon finally got the right side of the foul pole! Yay!
POSITIVELY DAMONIC! 4-2 Yankees!
Pudge is unwalkable.
“Let’s not get into panic mode yet, we were down on Friday night too. Cabrera is very hittable.”
Ahem.
JOHNNY!!!!!!!!!!!
Damon!!! That got out fast.
Please somebody give Pudge more steroids. And nice job Johnny!
seems mr cano go the message the yankees were trying to send him. i think a ‘get on your case’ coach will do wonders for him. i vote paul o’neal. if that’s the case, i will also buy some gatorade stock because demand for coolers will significantly increase
I honestly think our offense is back. Huge September coming up, just need decent pitching and we’ll make a run for it.
4 more to go!!!
YAY DAMON!!!
Nice Johnny!
Exactly what is so difficult with Girardi telling (not asking) Giambi to tap the ball down the 3rd base line to keep defenses honest with the exaggerated shift ?
Is Giambi exempt from suggestion ?
Is Daniel a FA this offseason ?
Damon’s HR, justification for Giambi being robbed last inning.
Cabrera is very very shakey today. Yanks have a chance to put a 6 spot on the board.
Is Dice-K throwing alot of pitches? Jays need to get to the pen.
When Cabrera is wild, he is scary for the hitter. Balls just come right at your head and he has no idea where the ball is going.
Plus, at 6-9, the hitter’s view of him is as if he is throwing the ball from a foot away.
“seems mr cano go the message the yankees were trying to send him. i think a ‘get on your case’ coach will do wonders for him. i vote paul o’neal. if that’s the case, i will also buy some gatorade stock because demand for coolers will significantly increase”
I’d love to see ‘O’neal’ (O’Neill) as a coach, but I don’t think he wants the obligation to be around for a full season. He’s on a 20 game maximum schedule at YES for that reason.
kd
buy some gatorade stock because demand for coolers will significantly increase
That is funny! So right on.
I miss Paulie and his fire. The current bunch are a little “Nancyish”.
Ellsbury is injured making a nice catch in the outfield. Banged off the wall. He is really shaken up out there.
SJ If he’s a FA I’d love to stick that arm in our minor leagues have Chaves and Nardi work w/ him what do you think ?
Girardi offered O’Neil a job last year and he turned it down.
I don’t think he is ready to leave the family and take on a fulltime gig.
Uh anyone criticizing Joe G on Giambi today is not watching the game, there was not much of a shift on today with runners on 1st and 2nd.
Is Derick Lowe a free agent this year? If so, thoughts on getting him to be a 4th or 5th pitcher?
Wang
Moose
Burnett(assuming C.C. stays in the west coast)
Lowe
Joba(innings cap)
Rays lead White Sox 2-0. Since we play the White Sox 4 times in September we might have to focus on both Sox teams.
Jacoby still sitting on the warning track being checked by the trainers. The broadcasters suggesting maybe it’s his shoulder.
“Is Dice-K throwing alot of pitches? Jays need to get to the pen.”
Not by his standards. 50 pitches so far. He’s got 2 outs in the 4th.
“Is Dice-K throwing alot of pitches? Jays need to get to the pen.”
Not by his standards. 50 pitches so far. He’s got 2 outs in the 4th.
Let’s hope Rasner settles down and the HR derby is over.
Maybe in another year or so for O’Neill? Once his kids are a bit older?
Anyone notice how slowly Pavano work in the first 2-3 innings last night? He seemed to get a little better those last two innings and had the results to show for it, I think. It was painful to watch how long he held onto the ball. I’m chalking it up to getting his bearings, etc. I was happy to see he ended the game stronger and with a lead. I guess he’s getting another start? I haven’t read the past posts yet today.
The Yankees should have this rotation next year!!!
1) JOBA!!!
2) Burnett!
3) Daniel Cabrera!
4) Jonathan Sanchez!
5) Derek Lowe!!!
And get Eric Threets for the bullpen! How about Cano for Threets and Sanchez, sign Lowe and Burnett and trade Hughes for Cabrera!!!
Make it happen, Cashman!!!
Nevermind lol it looks like it’s just his eye. Smashed his head and arm off of the wall at full speed and looks like he lost a contact lens.
I don’t think he is a FA, Brandon. If he is, I wouldn’t touch him.
The Yankees have enough reclaimation projects among their pitchers.
I’d prefer they begin to move away from that and focus on the young, high ceiling arms in the organization.
Guys like Hughes, McAllister, Betances, Brackman, Sanchez and DeLaRosa, Garcia are guys with enormous talent. Even more than Cabrera.
If they are going to sign a FA pitcher or two, I’d prefer it to be finished products.
“Jacoby still sitting on the warning track being checked by the trainers. The broadcasters suggesting maybe it’s his shoulder.”
Nah. Just saw the highlight. He face planted into the chain link portion of the fence in right making a catch.
What happened to Luis Matos?
I’m thinking about going up to Cooperstown. I just looked at reviews on the hotels and a good majority of them sound like dumps.
Has anyone gone recently and what hotel did you stay at?
Anyone think Trembley looks a bit like William Shatner?
Wow Ellsbury must have been really shaken up. I just read the post about him being hurt (happened a bit ago) and turned to see they were still dealing with him.
Let me say this. If you have to have injuries, obviously the best timne to have them is before the trading deadline. Seems that the Sux have been stacked with them on the wrong side of the deadline.
West Virginia resident wins tickets to see 81 Orioles games?
First prize was 40 games.
Homerun Jays. 3-4 Boston.
The Yankees have enough reclaimation projects among their pitchers.
I’d prefer they begin to move away from that and focus on the young, high ceiling arms in the organization.
Good point. The thing is when he’s on he’s dominant when he’s not he’s Jaret Wright. Since he’s cheap that what made me wonder about it , it’s never about his stuff just his delivery he can’t seem to repeat it makes you wonder how this guy was 1 out away from no hitting us.
Homer Jays.
Can I grab coincidental credit here? Showed up and both the Yankees and Jays started hitting!
Hey Nick SF didn’t you say you were going to last night’s Yanks game? Did you go?
Speaking of taking a chance on injury prone players. It seems like Baldelli has comeback from his strange injury. We are thin in center. Maybe roll the dice and see how much we can get out of him?
“I just read the post about him being hurt (happened a bit ago) and turned to see they were still dealing with him.”
Think he lost a contact and they were struggling to get it back in.
I don’t touch Rocco. He had some disease where he has no energy. No way to I try to get him.
Brandon,
Crap i just heard Umenyora is out for the season. Never liked pre season games. I wonder if Strahan will unretire? Sorry for the news bro.
jenn I’ve only done daytrips there but someone I work with was telling me about a place he stayed at that he loved, said it’s where the players typically stay when they go there for events and you can generally end up talking to them at breakfast etc.
I will ask him when I go to work and give you the name of the place.
S:
Even now, Baldelli can’t play everyday. That disease he has may stick with him forever as I understand it. Probbably too much risk there unless you are looking for some bench depth.
Thanks Trisha!!
Rasner, can we get the last out of the inning please?
I said I was going to last night’s game? No, I’m in San Francisco. I think I said my dad was driving towards Baltimore, where he is now. But he didn’t go to the game either.
was your post sarcastic Idiotic Yankees Fan?
NO! Osi is out for the season?!
Got to get Rasner out of there. He has no idea where the ball is going leaving his hand.
This is when Giese being out hurts because there is no real long man in the ‘pen.
Hope the O is truly on today because we are going to need them bigtime.
this is a game we absolutely need to win. it would be a huge boost to sweep this series.
having to trust rasner pathetic, he is not a real big league pitcher
btw, washburn is 0-5 with a 6.5 ERA in Aug; but of those 5 games.. he got killed in 2 and the other 3 were not bad.. how much would you rather like to see him pitching today then this minor leaguer
Fredo looks like you’re right. He’s still in the game anyway.
About Rasner – let’s not throw him on the trashheap just yet (meaning he might just be having a bad outing and it doesn’t mean he’s turned into a bum).
I’m all for getting a pitcher into the game as soon as they get one warmed.
Rasner looks very confused. Look how we spins after he throws the pitch.
Let Ras walk in a run and get Robertson in there.
SJ44, if Giese wasn’t hurt he still might not be available to be the long man; didn’t he take Rasner’s spot in the rotation right before he got hurt?
Whew.
Nooooooooooooooooooo NOT OSI !
Thanks Ras
63 pitches in 4 innings for dice. Their pen will be tested today.
WOW.
GREAT job Rasner. Goes to show what a manager I’d make. I was willing to pitch around Mora and walk in the run.
Please, no more of Rasner, he always gets in trouble the second and third time through the order. He’s a long reliever at best.
Jennifer,
I went to Cooperstown in July. My advice…..Stay at the Rose and Thistle Bed and Breakfast. Its great.
Really nice people run it, its a short walk to the Hall, and its very comfortable.
When you guys think Joba will be back? I am wondering if the Yankees will bring him back as starter, since they would have to experiment on stretching him out in the major.
Razz at 59 pitches after 2 innings… Not very good… lets hope for 5 innings.. thats all we can hope today
who is in the pen today? how easy will it be to piece together 5-6 innings from them?
Where is the news on Osi? I can’t find that anywhere.
Meanwhile, I was at the game last night. What a strange first few innings…even discounting the fact that Pavano was pitching. It’s also crazy how many Yankees fans show up at Camden Yards for these games. I even overheard “Get rid of Giambi, he’s a bum!” It was just like being in Yankee Stadium!
Robertson. Don’t know if Bruney could go again. Ewar. Veras?
Eric – the news on Osi is Breaking News on ESPN News and is accroding to the Newark Star Ledger
Eric,
Just watched it on espn news.
Man. Watching highlights of the l.l. series. Mexico looks like the real deal. How does the Hawaii team match up?
Robertson was warming up and Britton is in the bullpen as well.
EricVA –
Even more strange last night was the number of Yankees fans participating in that ridiculous wave that went around 5 or so times!
Thanks sj
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/08/source_umenyiora_to_undergo_su.html
That sounds bad. Osi going for surgery according to the star ledger.
Did old man Matsui just beat out a ground ball? That’s a lot of hustle for a gimp.
I’ll miss you Osi, we all will
Robbie so just missed that.
Godzilla is a gritty gamer.
Melky dissed by Mcfarlane!
http://www.spawn.com/news/news3.aspx?id=13437
They pulled his figure from next years line!
Also heard Merrimans injury could be carreer threatening. Jason Taylor also hurt.If this keeps up, the sack leader in the nfl will be at 6.
Pete – Thanks for the post about the absurd fighting…please consider this yet another vote for registration (I think I’ve cast at least 100 votes on getting registration and editing on this board).
Matsui really changes the lineup. Glad he’s back.
If D. Cabrera had one ounce of control, he could be a scary dominator. Like Randy Johnson in his prime after he found his control. (Unfortunately, the Yanks got him quite a few years too late.)
Strange that last night there was no ligament damage and today it’s severe. Not good news at all.
Doreen,
I tried not to take part in the wave but I was with a 4 year old that insisted!
Melky dissed by Mcfarlane!
http://www.spawn.com/news/news3.aspx?id=13437
His figure gets pulled from next years line!
One of those things that you can never know the answer to but still wonder about (if you’re me you wonder about it): Have the bats come back to life just because they have or have the bats come back to life because the players realize they are finally in heavy do-or-die time and so are up there fighting every AB.
Seriously, why is Pudge playing? He has done absolutely nothing to help the Yankees.
Kiwa is going to have to step up big this year even so you still risk putting an inexperienced DE, Tuck STAY HEALTHY !
Is there anything at this stage of his career that Pudge does better than Molina? I like Jose behind the dish more, and Pudge’s bat has not impressed.
Will anyone really be upset if we dont bring back pudge next year?
Whats wrong with the wave?
“I tried not to take part in the wave but I was with a 4 year old that insisted!”
Rasner’s already thrown 75 pitches.
Pete,
Re: your 1:58 post. Who else do they have? Joba is hurt. Giese is hurt. Hughes, Kennedy and Aceves are struggling in AAA.
They are so desperate, American Idol pitched last night.
We are down to Victor Zambrano, Chase Wright and Rasner for that spot.
Its like goint to a buffet and only seeing burnt food. You either leave the restaurant or choose the less burnt of the dishes.
There are not appetizing menu options for the Yankees with that slot right now.
Thank goodness we have Damon in center. A speedier Gardner would have overrun that ball.
Nice play by Damon.
timmy, although it has not looked this way for the past month, pudge is a better hitter than molina, a lot of players struggle adjusting to new york. i’m hoping pudge starts hitting in line with his career averages soon
Can the kid that broke his wrist be an option to split time with Molina next year if Posada isnt ready?
EricVA,
Last night, he hadn’t gotten the MRI. Today, he did. That’s why teams are hesitant to say anything until the player has an MRI.
Huge loss for the Giants. Hard to say where they go to fill that spot now. Probably will check the waiver wire heavily in the next week or two.
How do you search a webpage for certain words?