Game 132: Red Sox at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc, Podcast on Aug 27, 2008 
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YANKEES (70-61)
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
A. Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Nady LF
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
I. Rodriguez C
Ponson RHP
RED SOX (76-55)
Ellsbury RF
Pedroia 2B
Ortiz DH
Youkilis 1B
Bay LF
Lowrie 3B
Varitek C
Cora SS
Crisp CF
Byrd RHP
Sidney Ponson (7-4, 4.67) vs. the Boston hitters.
Paul Byrd (8-11, 4.61) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees are 6-7 against the Red Sox this season. … Mark Kotsay is expected before game time but will not be in Boston’s lineup. … The Yankees have 35 home runs in August. Only the White Sox (47) have more in baseball.
SIR SIDNEY: Ponson is 3-12, 6.92 in 21 games against Boston in his career. He faced the Red Sox on July 27 and allowed seven runs in four innings.
THE IRON HORSE: Well, not quite. But this will be the 12th straight game Jason Giambi has played at first base. That’s his longest such streak since playing 19 straight from Sept. 1-20, 2005.
GET INTO THE GROOVE: A-Rod had one RBI in the last seven games.
BYRD MAN: Paul Byrd is 2-5, 4.90 against the Yankees in his career. Since 2007, he has throwing 14 innings against the Yankees, giving up 16 runs on 21 hits.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 5:09 p.m.: Here is Joe Girardi’s pre-game press conference:
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He walks about A-Rod, Giambi and other topics. It’s fairly brief, about eight minutes. Among his comments is that A-Rod has hit in the clutch his whole career.
UPDATE, 7:04 p.m.: Hank Steinbrenner is at the game. It is only the second game he has attended in person this season.
UPDATE, 7:17 p.m.: Jason Bay’s double makes it 2-0. Sir Sidney has already allowed three hits.
The Yankees are going to have to mash if they are to win this game. Ponson is already at 21 pitches and isn’t going to last long.
UPDATE, 7:24 p.m.: Apparently Bobby Meacham tied up Red Sox third base coach DeMarlo Hale, donned his uniform and then sent Jason Bay into that sure out. Talk about cutting Ponson a break. Shows you what they think of Alex Cora.
2-0 Boston, Yankees coming to the plate. If they can score 18 here, Ponson should get the win.
UPDATE, 7:30 p.m.: Johnny Damon never, and I mean never, complains about a call. He had a right there. Tim Timmons missed it.
The crowd – for now – applauds Alex as he comes to the plate.
UPDATE, 7:35 p.m.: And A-Rod delivers an RBI single. See, Joe Girardi was right.
UPDATE, 7:54 p.m.: Tyler Kepner did a little fact-finding to debunk Joe Girardi’s pre-game statement about A-Rod.
UPDATE, 8:07 p.m.: Well, I must admit, I did not expect the Byrd-Ponson matchup to be 2-1 after three innings.
UPDATE, 8:28 p.m.: Big hit there for Cano to tie the score at 2-2. And Matsui goes first to third on the single. You have to give Matsui credit for rehabbing like he did to come back. A lot of players would have had the surgery when the doctor suggested it.
UPDATE, 9:33 p.m.: Pudge Rodriguez is 10 of 51 with the Yankees with one RBI in 18 gamesand has struck out nine times.
It’s only 4-2. But there is little evidence the Yankees can overcome that. The last nine batters have gone in order and they’re three outs away from getting Papelbon.
UPDATE, 9:47 p.m.: Jose Veras is in the process of putting the game out of reach. One run in, no outs, bases loaded.
UPDATE, 9:50 p.m.: Now it’s 7-2. That should do it. Now they need Mussina to avoid a sweet.
The Yankees will be 12-18 since that eight-game win streak. The Yankees used to get in position then put the hammer down. Not this year.
It’s going to be interesting to see what these final 30 games are like.
UPDATE, 10:00 p.m.: Time to option David Robertson, no?
A 4-2 game turned ugly in a hurry. So far, the Yankees have been outscored 18-5 in the series they said they had to win. Can even Sunny Side Joe Girardi spin this in a positive fashion?
UPDATE, 10:23 p.m.: Giambi is 4 for 4 against Timlin this season with three home runs and a double.
“BYRD MAN: Paul Byrd is 2-5, 4.90 against the Yankees in his career. Since 2007, he has throwing 14 innings against the Yankees, giving up 16 runs on 21 hits.”
Sounds like a pitcher we should beat up on. I won’t be surprised when we don’t.
Girardi just isn’t all that bright
FREAK!!! Giambi hits after Alex again?!?!?!?
The Giamboid has 4 HRs off Byrd, two earlier this season. There is hope.
Okay, I understand ARod not producing – when you have a contract for the rest of your baseball life, there’s no incentive to play well – it’s not like he has to ever negotiate agian. (That’s the problem with mondo long term contracts)
But presumably Giambi wants to play next year. He has a huge incentive to play his azz off.
Just don’t get it.
“I’m trying to put together an appropriate playlist to listen to during this evening’s game with the sound off – other than Mozart’s requiem, depeche mode, and the cure I am a little at a loss for material – any ideas?
Ave Maria? Taps ?
Doesn’t Phil Hughes start for SWB today? Keep your fingers crossed that the kid pulls it together!
Bronx Jeers how about The Smiths…they are known for their depressing music, “Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now’ is a great song for your playlist!
what happens if the yanks lose to the sox again?! is the season over or we still have a stupid chance?
If byrd win the game cashman needs to get fired! he could of have this guy over here….
Losers pick at the lineup get a life fools…
you wanted the stars day in and day out and now you get them and you still bitch and moan… more 18 yr old spoiled fools…
yeah moving giamsteroid down to 7th will make a difference!!!! the only guy less clutch then giamboid is the best player in baseball him self alex mr. small rodriguez…
51 games of 3 runs or less, what a joke..
wakefield looked bad and they hit him hard and still scored only 3 runs, that is all you need to know about the hollow hollow offense.
once the yanks get eliminated at least they will play gardner some…
This looks like it will turn out to be a sweep.
As for Hughes, who really cares about him? He’s Carl Pavano Jr.
Bronx Jeers – lol @ Taps
What song?
Gershwin’s Rhapsody in Blue comes to mind, written by a great New Yorker and composer. Yankees win tonight.
Bronx Jeers
Let me get this one in first (and hopefully last)……
(extended) Holiday – Madonna
yea I am wanting the great paul byrd.. he is another old piece of crap, any fan who would want him on the team is a mo-on.
“The Yankees have 35 home runs in August. Only the White Sox (47) have more in baseball.”
Yet they are 11-12 on the month. Think I’d rather have the 2nd most wins in August.
“Girlfriend in a Coma” kinda describes this team.
One complaint. Move Jason down!
“yea I am wanting the great paul byrd.. he is another old piece of crap, any fan who would want him on the team is a mo-on.”
Sadly, Byrd is sort of like Ponson, Rasner and Pavano in that sense.
“You get mad props for figuring out how to do an umlaut.”
No mad props, just cut ‘n’ pasted it.
Much like Girardi seems to have done with the 5th spot in the lineup lately.
(hey, if we’re not going to slam Girardi for something, why bother showing up?)
Do we have any info we can release on Paul before the game?
“Since 2007, he has throwing 14 innings against the Yankees, giving up 16 runs on 21 hits.”
Sounds a lot like Kenny Rogers vs the Yanks prior to Game 4 of the ’06 ALDS. When a team aint going well, you can throw prior history out the window.
“yeah moving giamsteroid down to 7th will make a difference!!!! the only guy less clutch then giamboid is the best player in baseball him self alex mr. small rodriguez…”
So maybe we should move Giamoffsteroid to 7th and As long as its not clutch to 8th.
CK in LA
August 27th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Okay, I understand ARod not producing – when you have a contract for the rest of your baseball life, there’s no incentive to play well – it’s not like he has to ever negotiate agian. (That’s the problem with mondo long term contracts)
That is one dumb post. Nobody on this team works as hard as Arod. Before and after games and in the offseason this guy is constantly trying to get better and stay in shape. So just because the dude is set for life doesn’t mean he doesn’t care about winning. He actually has some history to make that keeps him motivated as well. Sorry he stunk last night.
from earlier today: “They are having a bad year. It is not the apocolypse.â€
at least if there was an apocalypse there wouldn’t be another red sox world series victory .
I shudder at this star-studded Yankee lineup. Byrd won’t last an inning.
Ponson, however, should be able to shut down the team of scrubs the Sox will send out there,
By the way, Coco Crisp had three hits last night.
Song list how about Queen, Bohemian Rhapsody, with Giambi in the line-up:
I see a little silhouette-o of a man. Scad a moosh, vad a moosh will you do the van-dango? Thunderbolts and lightning, very very frightening, me.Galileo Galileo Galileo Galileo Galileo, Figaro Magnifico o o o o.
why are people all gloom and doom?
didnt we establish before the series began that we needed to win 2 out of 3 and in reality we werent going to sweep? okay so we lost one now we need to win the next 2.
but i do agree if we lose tonight, well i dont know what to say, at least i wouldnt be surprised.
Jeter Girl,
It wasn’t mine as I took it from the previous thread but
Please,Please,Please Let Me Get What I Want would be good if Arod comes up with RISP.
Haven’t had a hit in a long time….
See the year I’ve had could make a good fan turn bad
So for once in my life let me let me
get a base hit
Lord knows it would be the first time.
Yeah I used to listen to The Smiths just a little.
“THE IRON HORSE: Well, not quite. But this will be the 12th straight game Jason Giambi has played at first base. That’s his longest such streak since playing 19 straight from Sept. 1-20, 2005.
GET INTO THE GROOVE: A-Rod had one RBI in the last seven games.”
These are definite keepers. Pete’s rollin !
I will be positive as the game grows near.
aardvark:
ironic isnt it? the sux’s bottom lineup that everyone laughed at before the game ended up giving andy the most problems.
last night was a sad sad game
Leaving To the game today…Maybe There will more of the same as last night…(SOX FAN)
“I’m trying to put together an appropriate playlist to listen to during this evening’s game with the sound off – other than Mozart’s requiem, depeche mode, and the cure I am a little at a loss for material – any ideas?”
Here’s a couple of ideas:
1)Garth Brooks-Unanswered Prayers
2)Yankee Mambo (tribute to the 1996-2000 team)
3)Neil Young-Don’t let it bring you down
4)Ray Charles-Hit the Road Jack
5)Bruce Hornsby-The Way it Is
6)Sweet Caroline-Neil Diamond(this is going to be a tough one to stomach)
7)Metallica-Unforgiven
8)Memories-Barbara Streisand
9)Billy Joel-Just the way you are
10)Bob Dylan-The Times they are a changin
you gotta have faith, yes, we (or some of us) did postulate that 2 of 3 would be sufficient. Losing the Pettitte vs. Wakefield game wasn’t the best way to get there, but if we can get by tonight, we’ll be back in business, at least for one more day.
Or so goes the theory.
“(extended) Holiday – Madonna”
Haven’t we suffered enough?
lol at the yankee mambo
you gotta admit that was a good song those years lmao
The Yankees should play Meatloaf’s “Two Out Of Three Aint Bad” in the clubhouse for motivation. He is a great Yankee fan if you didnt know…
Here’s another song for the list:
Queen: Death on 2 legs
Green Beret,
Where are you? Hope you’re getting your sarcasm meter fixed. I can’t believe you bit on my draft comment.
I see A-Rod becoming a Zito-like albatross upon this team in the near future.
Show of hands: How many are excited by A-Rod’s chase of the all-time HR record?
How come I only hear crickets?
Today is the most important game of the year. After we win, then it will be tomorrows game.
Show of hands: How many are excited by A-Rod’s chase of the all-time HR record?
How come I only hear crickets?
Because you asked for a SHOW of hands not a yay or nay. I would be worried if you where hearing things with a show of hands
Another loss tonight should effectively end our season (if it has not happened already). I guess Girardi just feels Giambi will hit. I don’t see it, but hey what do I know? I’m just a fan(atic). I do know I need a drink…
Unbef***inglieveable That 3 and 4 tandem went 0 for 9 last night and instead of breaking it up GI Joe keeps it together. We are going to have to kidnap Jason Giambi.
A-Rod’s Rangers finished last when he was with them, but it wasn’t because he choked in the clutch.
How hard of a concept is it that we need to split of ARod and Giambi. Having are two worst hitters with runners on batting 4 and 5 kills us game in and game out.
Girardi is being really stubborn here and it is getting a little bit annoying. Giambi is still batting 5th. I know i am no manager, but I am truly starting to believe Girardi is overmatched here. He is handling the pitching really well, but i see no intensity and no openness to change from what isnt working. Do they still have Buck Showalter’s number?
ZMAN7777:
well let me say a lot more people here would be much happier if AROD added to his homerun count last night when the bases where loaded
but i dont expect him to hit homeruns everytime he comes up, jeez all i ask for is a base hit with RISP, so that way the Big G can come up and do the job, oh wait…..
That 4 and 5 * (sorry my error)
ZMan,
I could (not?) care less about the HR record.
YankeeDiva, what you’re hearing is the sound of one hand clapping.
Thanks, Diva. I couldn’t see any hands . . . or crickets for that matter.
I do see an albatross though. Pitches, pitches everywhere . . . but not a one to spank!
I’m trying to stay positive, I really am. I’ve watched A Rod play dozens of games at the Stadium and never once booed him. Even at his worst I always said that it doesn’t helps him be productive if he the fans are putting more pressure on him. He puts so much pressure on himself. Besides, last year when he consistently came through in the clutch, I didn’t feel like I was being two faced or fickle.
Last night when he hit into the 7th ininng double play I just put my head in my hands and looked down and stared at the floor. I saw the last flicker of hope for the season fade.
Tonight, given the same set of circumstances, I am positive the I will boo him till my wife hits me over the head with a hardcover book. How’s THAT for being positive?
How hard of a concept is it to understand that no matter how much you bitch and moan about the 5 spot in the lineup Giambi will still be there?
Wonder what I should pick up from the liquor store to get me through this game. Everclear?
Save us Sir Sidney. Go Yanks!
A-Rod will hit a meaningless solo homerun in the bottom of the eighth, when the Yankees will be either up or down by seven runs.
Randy l -
No worries. The Cubs, the Angels, The Rays – pick one.
Girardi is too stubborn. I dont really understand why his job is safe. It’s not just about losing the season, its about his unwillingness to change or apparently show any emotion at all. I defended him all year, but as i mentioned, he is really overmatched here.
I’ve probably said this 5 times before, but it will apparently take the jaws of life to pry Giambi from the 5 spot.
I’m fairly convinced that the Yanks will exercise the $5 buyout clause in Giambi’s contract and sign someone else to play first base. And next season, he’ll somehow still be batting 5th in pinstripes.
Albatross ….. Albatross …..
Maybe we can get John Cleese to work the stadium.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_u7VGiMO0U
Prediction: Oakland will sign Giambi to a one-year, $2M contract in the offseason. He will replace Frank Thomas as the team’s obligatory, inexpensive, over-the-hill, .240-hitting slugger.
He will not be missed here.
I’m sad to say that the magic is gone:
1)There are no squirrels running up the flag pole in 2008.
2)Routine plays have turned into little league looking blunders (i.e. Giambi at 1b, Arod dropping routine fly balls).
3)Sidney Ponson is considered “reliable”.
4)Trading Farnsworth was a BAD thing.
5)Our 300 million dollar man has 2 RBI in the 8/9 innings this season. Yes, 2.
ray complaining does not make one bit of difference to the lineup.
Point of the blog is to come and share yankee baseball insight as well as air your frustrations about the team (if the situation warrants it). I’d say its warranted.
“How hard of a concept is it to understand that no matter how much you bitch and moan about the 5 spot in the lineup Giambi will still be there?”
raymagnetic,
The over under on how many games will someone mention Giambi in the 5th spot for the rest of the games was 28 of the last 35 games. I picked over. Let the streak live!!
“I’m trying to put together an appropriate playlist to listen to during this evening’s game with the sound off – other than Mozart’s requiem, depeche mode, and the cure I am a little at a loss for material – any ideas?â€
Maybe you could find a recording of Suzan Walman’s announcement of Roger Clemens’ return to the Yankees. That would be nice.
what I don’t get is, I know Girardi is trying to be consistent now, but how can he just keep plugging AROD and GIAMBI into the 4/5 spot. I mean seriously, we have NO chance of making the playoffs if something doesn’t adjust there.
last night I did heroin for the first time in my life aftter watching the yankee game. I bought an extra bundle for tonight, just in case.
I didn’t follow ANY Yankees games to start the 2nd half…they won 8 in a row…then I started watching them a lot…UNTIL this weekend,,,,they swept Baltimore….then I tuned in last night to see Andy getting totally hosed by that ICEHOLE behind the plate…..back in the “L” column….I will do my best to stay away from following them at all for the rest of the year…I will DEFINITELY stay away for the next 2 games agains the BoSux and when they win both games,,,,remember why it happened….
I don’t want to introduce negativity on top of negativity, but I will anyway. Let’s play a little thought exercise:
Imagine it’s September 1, 2014. The Yankees have still not won #27. The Yanks are 8 games back from wild card contention. Arod comes up and hits his 763rd home run (for the sake of this discussion, Barry Bonds has not hit another).
What is the reaction?
I pray we never find out.
“I’ve probably said this 5 times before, but it will apparently take the jaws of life to pry Giambi from the 5 spot.”
How about a fifth of JD tied to a big-game fishing reel?
Nick — the reaction is noise from crickets (or at least it should be!)
Can we have a vote please?
All those who want I am the jinx,,,DVAB off the island say AYE!
Drive 4-5 I feel your pain even I would have been tempted to boo not sure I would have bbo’d but would damn sure be tempted to boo, there is only one player that I boo’d as a Yankee fan in the past 10 years and that was Felix Heredia. Boy did he really piss me off.
Only if A-Rod will follow DVAB
A-Rod and Giambi as our 4 and 5 hitters with their PISS POOR RISP is the reason that we S*CK in the clutch all year….Teams won’t why away from pitching to those two TOTAL CHOKERS when the game is on the line for the remainder of the season and watch how the both of them WILT under the pressure of EVERY clutch situation that has “game on the line” implications. Both of these clowns are sickening to watch “when it counts’….you get your hopes up and WAY MORE often than not, they smash those hopes to bits.
Didnt Carlos Pena used to be in the Yankee system? You’re welcome Tampa!!! Yeah. we made the right choice. Jason Giambi.
The Balboni Curse:
seriously, only 2? really? wow, when he stinks, he truly stinks
but what i dont understand is how can someone with over a .300 average and have over 20 homeruns still finds a way to be hated and booed.
“What is the reaction?”
It wasnt clutch. The bases werent loaded and it was before the 8th inning.
AYE !
doreen-
the problem is that if the red sox pull off the wild card, they do have the right kind of pitching for the playoffs with all the off days.
asuming beckett comes back. they have beckett, matsuzaka. and lester for almost all their games with a sprinkle of wakefield thrown in.
as much as i like the yankeees , i dislike the red sox.
it would not be a total loss if they go down too, but if they make it to the playoffs, they’ll be tough for any team because of their top three starters
PETE— Will you please ask Girardi point blank this question….
Why does Giambi continue to bat fifth and how low will he have to drop with his RISP before you make a change?????
Good lineup..
Let’s Go Yankees!
Kevin
Didnt Carlos Pena used to be in the Yankee system? You’re welcome Tampa!!! Yeah. we made the right choice. Jason Giambi.
I wanted him to stay that year too. I remember how he was w/ Oakland and then he hit his rock bottom you don’t just forget to how to hit.
“Imagine it’s September 1, 2014. The Yankees have still not won #27. The Yanks are 8 games back from wild card contention.”
..so it’s safe to asume cashman is still the gm?
but what i dont understand is how can someone with over a .300 average and have over 20 homeruns still finds a way to be hated and booed.
Because many people hit around .300 and hit 20 hrs. None of them make close to 300 Million and none of them come up and fail in so many clutch situations. The weird thing is next year he will probably be MVP.
Giambi needs to be hitting 10th.
TK,
How about “Jesus Christ Superstar”? There’s a couple ways you could read into that.
“The Balboni Curse:
seriously, only 2? really? wow, when he stinks, he truly stinks
but what i dont understand is how can someone with over a .300 average and have over 20 homeruns still finds a way to be hated and booed.”
This is why, this is an excerpt from the NY Daily News. Arod trys to say the right thing to the press, but, just check out the last statement he makes…if you read what he said then you can deduce that he is implying that although he was terrible last night, so was everyone else. Even if he did fail to come up with a hit 5 times, twice when just a base hit was needed, he is still going to help the team win. This was the case last year, but this year is a different story. The 2 RBI was stated by Michael Kaye last night when Arod was batting and talking about how un-clutch he’s been this season as compared to last.
“Today, we sucked. I sucked. I played terrible. They hit balls all over the place, down the corner at third base, and I left men all over the field. We win as a team and lose as a team. Tonight, you can put it on me, but I’m going to help this team win a lot of games, too.â€
LC,
If Charlie Manuel looked down the bench and saw Giambi, Cole Hamels, and Igawa. Giambi would be picked last!
my take is that we are watching an extremely flawed team in action that even one off-season will not fix. i know, as a yankee fan, i’m supposed to be gung-ho and never give up, but this is serious. we may see several years of trying to right this ship. flame on… but also be prepared to live through one of those eras… there’s a lot to repair.
“Imagine it’s September 1, 2014. The Yankees have still not won #27. The Yanks are 8 games back from wild card contention. Arod comes up and hits his 763rd home run (for the sake of this discussion, Barry Bonds has not hit another).
What is the reaction?”
I’d be happy for him. It’s still a great achievement, one he accomplished wearing the pinstripes.
Also, let me say that as horrible as A-Rod was last night, I never booed him. I would never boo a Yankee. I’m sorry, I just think that’s wrong. I remember being horrified that year when Jeter got off to that horrible start and the fans booed him. Can you imagine booing Mariano Rivera? No, right? Then there’s no way that anyone should have booed Jeter. It’s things like that which cause some fans to be embarrassed to be Yankee fans.
I think the first team to 21 should be awarded the victory tonight. I think today is the one day where Joe G should have changed the lineup. I have no doubt in my mind that Giambi will jack one tonight but I think he does need to be moved down in the lineup for a few days and break up the ARod/Giambi combo so the Yankees have a reasonably chance at scoring a runner from 3rd with less than 2 outs.
If Charlie Manuel looked down the bench and saw Giambi, Cole Hamels, and Igawa. Giambi would be picked last!
LOL sadly this is true.
“Didnt Carlos Pena used to be in the Yankee system? You’re welcome Tampa!!! Yeah. we made the right choice. Jason Giambi.
I wanted him to stay that year too. I remember how he was w/ Oakland and then he hit his rock bottom you don’t just forget to how to hit.”
If we could all predict the future Pavano and Igawa wouldnt have been signed. Pena was batting around .250 with tons of K’S when he was playing with us. No body would have predicted that he would become a basher again after being cut by Detroit.
People who forgot how to hit.
Brett Boone
Richi Sexson
Giambi
Jashell,
If people are allowed to complain about the lineup regularly then I’m allowed to talk about them too, no?
S.o.s,
I’ll take the under. No way Giambi is still in the lineup if the Yankees fall out of contention completely.
My theory here is extreme but bear with me:
Since Alex has a .400 OBP and hitting over .300, but is piss poor with people on base, put him leadoff. Put Giambi right after him at the top, as he walks alot and because of the shift, doesnt hit in many DPs. Then put your hitters who can single with people on. It’s not gonna happen, but depserate times call for something new. “it is change we can believe in.” Someone i think uses that as his catch phrase, but this whole thing isnt working.
Nick in SF,
“Imagine it’s September 1, 2014. The Yankees have still not won #27. The Yanks are 8 games back from wild card contention. Arod comes up and hits his 763rd home run (for the sake of this discussion, Barry Bonds has not hit another).
What is the reaction?”
I’m not sure. But I’m reasonably sure my head will be all lumped up from my wife having hit me over the head with hardcover books for 6 years.
People who forgot how to hit the needle.
Brett Boone
Richie Sexson
Giambi
FIXED
I am not a huge fan of Arod but he does not fail because he does not care!!!!!
He fails because he tries to hard and grips to hard..
people with the logic he has his money he does not care that is classic stupidity.. Newsflash Arod was rich a year ago also…
“Imagine it’s September 1, 2014. The Yankees have still not won #27. The Yanks are 8 games back from wild card contention. Arod comes up and hits his 763rd home run (for the sake of this discussion, Barry Bonds has not hit another).
What is the reaction?â€
I’d be happy for him. It’s still a great achievement, one he accomplished wearing the pinstripes.
Also, let me say that as horrible as A-Rod was last night, I never booed him. I would never boo a Yankee. I’m sorry, I just think that’s wrong. I remember being horrified that year when Jeter got off to that horrible start and the fans booed him. Can you imagine booing Mariano Rivera? No, right? Then there’s no way that anyone should have booed Jeter. It’s things like that which cause some fans to be embarrassed to be Yankee fans.
Jeter and Rivera have both been booed. Jeter was hitting .190 in June a few years ago and he heard it. Rivera was struggling in april last year, and he heard it.
Drive,
A little advice. Book on tapes or e-books, dude.
Good one, randy. You’re like a pit bull.
Sure, it’s 2014 and Cashman is still GM, Phil Hughes is in Scranton working out a couple kinks in his delivery with high hopes for him to finally join the rotation the next season, Joba has just been shut down because he’s reached his innings limit, Ian Kennedy woke up and feels like he’s going to make someone look stupid, the Pittsburgh Pirate have just DFA’d Livan but are grateful for the innings that he ate for them, and the Yankees still haven’t re-hired your buddy. What a calamity.
“People who forgot how to hit the needle.
Brett Boone
Richie Sexson
Giambi
FIXED”
People who remember how.
Pena
In reference to boo’ing players:
It is absolutely necessary to make your voice heard in the good times and bad.
These are very well paid athletes and we are all paying top dollar to see them and next year will likely be squeezed out of getting tix easily.
Boos are absolutely appropriate and warranted in some instances…and in no way, shape or form make you any less of a fan. These are not little league or high schoolers we’re talking about.
It also sends a message to the front office that the fans want a change. It’s all about the fans, the fans that buy merchandise, tickets, 9 dollar hot dogs and 4 dollar cokes.
Not booing is way to socialist for me. I like to speak my mind, that is why I live in the U.S.A.
stuart,
Alex cares too much. That’s the problem.
I wonder if ARod has consulted with Joel Fish (http://www.psychologyofsport.com/). This guy spoke to my swim team in college, I know what you are all thinking, swimming, but swimming at a high performance is all mental and this guy was very good.
This has to be causing tension in the locker room too. Our leadoff guy hit two homeruns last night and our 4-5 were 0-9 with 2 DPs and many strike outs, plus an error they both had a hand in. Do you think Damon, Jeter and Abreu sit and glare at A-Rod across the room?
“My theory here is extreme but bear with me:
Since Alex has a .400 OBP and hitting over .300, but is piss poor with people on base, put him leadoff. Put Giambi right after him at the top, as he walks alot and because of the shift, doesnt hit in many DPs. Then put your hitters who can single with people on. It’s not gonna happen, but depserate times call for something new. “it is change we can believe in.†Someone i think uses that as his catch phrase, but this whole thing isnt working.”
ARod was a leadoff hitter in HS.
mel
August 27th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Green Beret,
Where are you? Hope you’re getting your sarcasm meter fixed. I can’t believe you bit on my draft comment.
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Sorry, Mel. Unlike some of you, I can’t lay around on an overstuffed sofa, playing on the computer and watching the soap operas and eating bon-bons.
Sorry, Mel…I’ve always wanted to accuse someone of watching soaps and eating bon-bons. I answered your message in the last thread….just too late. I was eating bon-bons.
“Jeter and Rivera have both been booed. Jeter was hitting .190 in June a few years ago and he heard it. Rivera was struggling in april last year, and he heard it.”
I mentioned that Jeter was booed and I said that I didn’t think it was right. It’s not right to boo Mo either. We’re supposed to support these guys; not help tear them down when they are at their low point. Do people think booing A-Rod last night was going to help him perform better? From what I saw, his performance only got worse as the boos got louder. Hmmm, I wonder why.
Laura,
Thank you pulling me off the ledge. I was staring into The Boodom Abyss. I’ve never booed him and I won’t start booing him now. Thank you.
Can I at least mumble “that no good ch^k*ing s%^ofa$$%@!$” under my breath?
“people with the logic he has his money he does not care that is classic stupidity.. Newsflash Arod was rich a year ago also…”
I agree with you Stuart. There isnt one teammate or writer that doesnt say he is the hardest working player on the team. From the first one to show up. To extra batting practice. Money hasnt made him lazy. It might have made him put more pressure on himself. The more you make. The more your expected to produce.
“Can I at least mumble “that no good ch^k*ing s%^ofa$$%@!$†under my breath?”
As long as you keep it to a low whisper.
Laura, I think the boos are a result of frustration. And trust me, I’ve been frustrated enough to do plenty worse than boo…
i actaully kind of feel bad for Arod, the guy is expected to do so much and gets hell when he doesnt, but then again he most likely knew this when he signed the dotted line last year
but also i feel that no matter what arod does people will always ALWAYS find something to bitch about
“Do you think Damon, Jeter and Abreu sit and glare at A-Rod across the room?”
No, because they know that there have been times when they’ve come up in big spots and didn’t deliver. Jeter is in no position to look down on A-Rod for his DPs when Jeter himself has 19. How many times has Abreu made a base running blunder this year? And what about that ball that Damon dropped in TOR?
There is plenty of blame to go around. A-Rod is the usual punching bag. His God awful performance last night just made it worse.
Laura,
It’s so easy to fall into the Boodom Abyss. I have to admit, mel’s suggestion of e-books makes it easier for me to think about booing
We need to buy a title this offseason. Win it all next year at all costs.
“Laura, I think the boos are a result of frustration. And trust me, I’ve been frustrated enough to do plenty worse than boo…”
I don’t doubt it. In the end though, I don’t see how the boos will make you feel better. Their horrible play makes you want to run out on the field and slap them around for 10 mins. That might actually help. Unfortunately, that will also get us arrested.
One poster was saying that booing let’s the players know that we are not happy with their performance. Yeah, ’cause I’m sure they have no idea that we aren’t happy with their play!! We don’t need to boo to have our voices heard. You want to affect change? Stop going to the ballpark. Stop putting your butts in the seats. Stop buying the merchandise. That will definitely get management’s attention.
in 2006 the sux finished in third place in our division, did they not?
what did they do in 2007? does anyone remember? i cant remember i think i cut that memory from my brain, its in the garbage along with 2004
my point is one bad season doesnt have to dictate what happens the next season, just look at the rays!
It’s like booing in the forest. If no one hears them no big deal.
but also i feel that no matter what arod does people will always ALWAYS find something to bitch about
I know it seems like everyone is attacking A-Rod, but come on. .240 with RISP? This is the best player in baseball? Its not like he is batting .350 and .400 with RISP and he just missed one. Thihs has been all year from the first game. 28 Mil for 28 hrs and 78 rbis, with .240 RISP is not what i consider getting your money’s worth.
If Jose Molina made 28M and was considered the best in baseball, we’d be on him too.
This season we have attacked Cano for dogging, Jeter for DPs, Giambi for being a fat f-ck, Damon, Abreu, and the pitching, Girardi, Cashman. A-Rod is NOT the only target.
Randy l -
If the Red Sox make the WC (ewwww), you’ll have to blame the Twins, who let Livan Hernandez go despite being their savior for the first half of the season!
Then there’s the Beckett factor. Not as good this year as last, and perhaps nursing an injury. There’s also the Matsuzaka factor – will he be able to get away with walking the planet in the playoffs? Will he have thrown waaaaay too many pitches during the regular season and his arm finally, FINALLY, falls off?
And their bullpen isn’t really that good this year.
It may not be their year, either. Keep the faith. Cubs, Angels or Rays. Or Phillies.
Laura,
“You want to affect change? Stop going to the ballpark.”
Here’s where you lose me. I’ve been going to the ballpark for 45 years (I’m dating myself). It’s a link between my parents and I. I’ve taken my kids to the ballpark since they were small. It’s a link that my kids now have with me. There are millions just like us. We shouldnt be denied that just because our beloved team stinks in any given year.
Keep this up and I’m gonna start booing… I mean it!
“It’s like booing in the forest. If no one hears them no big deal.”
I don’t know, Mel. To me, booing is so low class, particularly last night. A-Rod got booed as if he were a member of the Red Sox. I just don’t think we should be doing that to one of our own. Like it or not, A-Rod is a Yankee for the rest of his life. He’s ours to keep. I really believe that we will win championships with him on board. It doesn’t seem like it now, but one of these days, months or perhaps years, he’s going to come up big when we need him.
yesterday when a-rod came up in the bottom of the 9th i prayed please dont hit a home run!! it was my first time ever i hoped my favorite player makes out! i hope you understand why.
Fat Lady spotted on the Deegan…
The frustrating thing for me isn’t the number of games the Yankees have lost, it’s the number of games they have had a reasonable chance to win that they have lost.
When Sidney Ponson gives you eight scoreless innings against the Anaheim Angels, for instance, you HAVE to win that game.
Laura,
I think you misunderstood me. It’s okay to boo at the tv or at the computer. Not okay to boo in person.
“Here’s where you lose me. I’ve been going to the ballpark for 45 years (I’m dating myself). It’s a link between my parents and I. I’ve taken my kids to the ballpark since they were small. It’s a link that my kids now have with me. There are millions just like us. We shouldnt be denied that just because our beloved team stinks in any given year.”
Drive, I hear ya and I totally understand where you are coming from. My experience has been that businessmen take notice when their wallets are being negatively affected. The other poster was saying that he wanted management to know that he wasn’t happy. I was merely telling him how I thought he’d best get that message across.
“I think you misunderstood me. It’s okay to boo at the tv or at the computer. Not okay to boo in person.”
You are right; I did misunderstand you. Sorry.
Alex cares too much. That’s the problem.
That and he opens his hips to pull every ball too much
Save us Roger!:
i know he hasnt been the only target, at least almost everyone on this team has been targeted, what im saying is that because of the contract he signed, and because of what he is expected to do, people will never be happy with him, but i also agree that his numbers this year with risp have indeed been terrible
this is a qoute from Arod about 2 years ago:
“Until i win 5 world series with this team and have a world series clinching home run, fans will never be completely satisfied with me, and i know that.”
i may have changed a few words but overall thats what he said and hes right.
i do belive that you are allowed to boo!
a note about damon yesterday; he forgot that he is a yankke he played a great game!
I do think that they should slip Nady between A-Rod and Giambi. Neither A-Rod or Giambi can hit lefties, so you have Abreu, Arod and Giambi all in a row. A-rod also cannot hit rightys, which makes it tough to act on this logic, but at least you can get someone in from 2nd or 3rd base.
Since Damon does not steal bases anymore, they should switch him and Jeter in the lineup. Jeter can get on base if that is what he is supposed to do (stop sac bunting in the 4th inning!!). Damon has more power than Jeter. Let Damon’s hits count for some RBI.
Jeter
Damon
Abreu
GIDPlay-Rod
Nady
Giambi
Matsui – who can hit lefties
Cano
Pudge/Molina/Moehler whoever else can bat .200
nick in sf-
if cashman is still there in 2014, i’m going to have to get some good antidepressant therapy.
.. and livan will be only 39 . since he can’t get any slower and still have the ball reach the plate in the air, he’ll still be pitching. he may even be throwing that pitch to arod.
… and don’t worry about my friend neil. he just finished getting david price ready to make his tampa debut .
Brandon,
That’s because he’s trying too hard because he cares about the team (or what people think, who knows?).
It’s amazing how muscle memory doesn’t account for much in baseball. A small breakdown creates a bigger problem.
i have an interesting question:
do any of you think that johnny damon regrets going for the money and becoming a yankee?
i guess time will tell, right?
Booing a poor at-bat or a bad play, specific to that at-bat or play, I think is appropriate. Booing before a player even steps into the batters box is not. You’re certainly not going to applaud a guy who just hit into an inning-ending double play with the bases loaded. I don’t like to boo, but I HAVE booed. It is a way to vent frustration. There’s not much else you can do.
What bugs me is that people seem to be a lot more comfortable booing than cheering and that’s what’s wrong at the Stadium. Most of the time the cheering doesn’t even start until after the scoring is done. We will cheer good plays, yes. But until someone actually does something, the stadium is quiet. There’s no noise to distract the other pitcher, there’s no Rah-Rah before the fact to show support. It’s like people are sitting there with a “show me” attitude and I really am disappointed by that.
“do any of you think that johnny damon regrets going for the money and becoming a yankee?”
Maybe if BOS wins another World Series this year.
Ugh, same lineup, different day
you gotta have faith,
Was he hanging in the Hamptons while playing for Boston? j/k I don’t think he was with Michelle in the early Boston years.
Seriously, I think he likes the city and the fans. Some of his teammates probably irritate him. I don’t think he knew what a culture shock it would be. But I don’t think he regrets leaving Boston. The writing’s always on the wall over there. Like graffiti. Can’t be ignored.
It’s amazing how muscle memory doesn’t account for much in baseball.
Actually it does, it’s what seperates good players and great players. I don’t think Arod has made the transition from 5 tool athlete to 5 tool player. It’s hard to explain he’s the guy w/ the best potential of any player in the league and it has never been reached fully. He has yet to get the muscle memory part of this game down it’s a big reason why he comes up unclutch. Ah now I figured out the comparison, you see a guy like Daniel Cabrera a fireballing pitcher w/ great potential but he has a problem repeating his mechanics, that’s what happens to Alex in the clutch.
Booing a player because of the number he chose is stupid beyond infinity.
Folks do forget that in 2007 Alex Rodriguez was the best clutch hitter in baseball. He led all of baseball in batting average and home runs after the 8th inning. He hit .452 with 8 home runs in the 9th inning. He had 26 home runs and 46 rbi’s with 2 outs and runners in scoring position.He had 13 home runs that untied games.
Even last year in the playoffs he hit better than Jeter, Posada, Giambi and Matsui. He was pitched around because no one was producing behind him.In Game 1 he was 0 for 2 with 2 walks. Posada hit behind him and went 0 for 4. In Game 2 he went 0 for 4, but Carmona only allowed 3 hits. In Game 3 he was 2 for 4. In Game 4 he was 2 for 5 with a home run.
A Rod has hit in the clutch for the Yankees and he will again. He’s won 2 MVP Awards as a Yankee. They just dont hand those out. He’s been horrible this year,but that doesn’t mean he’ll be horrible the rest of his career.
He’s been horrible this year,but that doesn’t mean he’ll be horrible the rest of his career.
For his sake I hope he isn’t
why is AROD in the clean up spot?
Speaking of numbers, Alex needs to get rid of his. Changing numbers can be life changing for some athletes. The problem is it would look silly because it would look like he’s shedding it because it’s unlucky (which it is).
Brandon: “Ah now I figured out the comparison, you see a guy like Daniel Cabrera a fireballing pitcher w/ great potential but he has a problem repeating his mechanics, that’s what happens to Alex in the clutch.”
I’d love to think it was a simple issue of mechanics, but we’ve seen that he’s pressing, which is more than just mechanics. It’s mental approach to the ABs. He swings at bad pitches and over-swings many times. He makes his mechanics bad, which some would argue is actually easier to resolve, if he would just relax.
I think that an issue of mechanics only would be more akin to the changes in Giambi’s swing. Giambi is a dead-pull hitter because his mechanics have changed and he can’t/won’t change them back. ARod’s mental approach is completely different when it’s a big spot and you can see him just take awful hacks because he’s just trying too hard.
ARod will get better once the hitter behind him gets better. I am soooo not a bandwagon-jumper-on-er but the “Giambi Should Not Be Batting 5th Bandwagon” best have a seat for me!
Brandon,
Who cares about him? He’s getting paid no matter what (baseball and its stupid guaranteed contracts).
What about us!
Most of the time the cheering doesn’t even start until after the scoring is done. We will cheer good plays, yes. But until someone actually does something, the stadium is quiet. There’s no noise to distract the other pitcher, there’s no Rah-Rah before the fact to show support. It’s like people are sitting there with a “show me†attitude and I really am disappointed by that.
so the stadium is quiet? first time i ever heard that. that whole paragraph reeks of stupidity. have you ever been to any baseball games in your life? I’ve been to my fair share of parks and no crowd is into the game like a Yankee Stadium crowd. seriously, what an ignorant and mornic statement. do you have any idea of what you’re talking about?
“why is AROD in the clean up spot?”
Why wouldn’t he be? That’s where you put your most dangerous hitter.
mel -
I agree with you about ARod switching numbers. I don’t think he’d look silly at all. I think most people would ask, “What took him so long???” 13 is just not a good number.
Speaking of numbers, I also think it was totally ludicrous for Joe Girardi to choose number 27. First of all, if they did go on and win #27 this year, or if they do next year, what’s he going to do – change it to 28 the following year? Secondly, it was cheesy. It was the one thing I didn’t like about him from the very beginning.
bleh
that’s all i can say about this team
bos wins 6-2
Tim Boat: It’s been a while since I’ve been to the Stadium (living in L.A. will do that), but on TV, it does seem that way. If it’s no score or the team is behind, the only noise is when a Yankee does something or if there are 2 strikes on the opposing batter. It’s not a bad observation. It definitely doesn’t deserve you insulting someone.
“ARod will get better once the hitter behind him gets better.”
Doreen — I hope you’re right about this, but I wouldn’t bet on it. So much of this is in A-Rod’s head, that even having Babe Ruth (circa 1927) in the 5th slot might not help much.
“He’s been horrible this year,but that doesn’t mean he’ll be horrible the rest of his career.”
Well, this needs qualification, no? He’s batting over .300 with 28 HRs. That’s not horrible. He’s been horrible in situations with RISP. That I will agree with.
Just gotta believe.
Just wondering, can we get a fight song like Go cubs Go… Go Yankees Go! Go Yankeees Go!
Drive: The problem is, people REMEMBER how good he was last year and expect it this year.
Other Phil,
Yes, that’s what I was trying to say. In baseball, the mental game (slumps) make you do things you’ve been trained not to do. It overrides the muscle memory that you’ve accumulated over the years.
Whereas in gymnastics or diving, you let it fly.
In tennis or volleball, an easy winner or kill opportunity can cause even the best of the best to change their mechanics because they’re trying to overdo it. This is the “Eyes as Big as Saucers” syndrome.
Hey Peter, A-Rod’s career vital line is .303/.404/.552 w/RISP. So next time you try to make a subtle jab about Joe Girardi’s optimism, do a little research first.
I’m with Doreen on this: booing a specific bad play or bad at-bat is perfectly acceptable. In fact, I’d go further and say it’s excellent if the player is repeating specific bad habits that he needs to break. That’s the kind of booing that is a complementary act to cheering to the skies an excellent play or a player who rises above his usual level (as compared with just routine rooting for the laundry).
But booing a player when he comes on the field or when he misses a tough one is just destructive.
Girardi is such an idiot….THIS YEAR is a PART OF A-ROD’S CAREER, RIGHT ?….and .246 RISP is NOT CLUTCH….Somebody dig up some dirt on this idiot and get him fired…..KEEP GIAMBI in the 5 hole, Joe…..YOU ARE MANAGER OF THE YEAR ! ;-(
To make you feel even better about tonight-Paul Byrd is 5-1 in his last 6 games including a win over the Angels, a complete game win over Toronto, averaging about 7 innings/game and given up only 4 runs in 2 of the last 6 games. Ponson on the other hand lasted 2 innings last start, and the last time he faced Boston he looked terrified. Our starters the last month, since Joba has been hurt, have pitched so poorly, that our one strength, the bullpen, has been just as bad, due to overuse.
Stuart-I know you think Byrd is an old bum, and I can’t deny that, but based on his latest statistics, and being a FA, he was worth a shot in place of Ponson, Rasner and Pavano.
Kotsay too-has had a good August, we could have put him in center, Damon in left, and let Nady play 1st for a while, letting Giambi ride the bench.
I truly believe, that when the Yankees didn’t improve with the addition of Nady Marte and I-Rod, that the Steinbrenners, not publicly admitting it, told Cashman to forget about adding anyone put on waivers.
On the booing issue, I agree with the poster who said it’s the fans’ way of expressing displeasure to management. I can tell from this blog that a lot of Yankee fans are sick of at-bats like A-Rod’s seventh inning masterpiece, um GIDP against Masterson. But Yankee fans are merciless. They booed Randy Johnson, one of the great pitchers of his era, when he revealed that he’s mortal and failed to lead the Yankees to a world championship.
As a Sox fan I still think it’s wrong to boo Damon for taking the money, and I thought it was wrong to boo Bellhorn for merely reverting to his old self after the great moments of 2004.
However, if I were a Yankee fan, I’d boo A-Rod’s $30-million butt, too.
TOP, I didn’t say that was his only problem. I said it plays a part. He cheats himself, opening his hips early to pull a ball into the LF stands instead of taking what’s given. A ground ball through the 2B hole would have been better last night because you wouldn’t have seen a double play and Ellsbury has no arm to home. It’s amazing to me it’s like he couldn’t settle for what he was given a a ground ball to the 2B hole a flyball to deep RF, a gapper, no he did the worst possible thing basesloaded the 2B/SS playing up the middle DP depth he pulls off a sinkerball into the shortstop’s lap.
Tim Boat -
First, I see no reason for you to attack me personally. I don’t do that to anyone else here, and it’s really not necessary. If you want to say, “I’ve been to the Stadium, and it’s not like that in person,” then I’d have to answer you, that no, I haven’t had the pleasure of being at the Stadium in a number of years, I only get to watch on television. However, I HAVE been to live baseball games and often.
What I said was the stadium doesn’t get noisy until AFTER a play – there doesn’t seem to be a lot of it going on BEFORE for, you know, inspiration.
Anyway, if what you say is true, then there’s something very wrong with the sound system at the stadium, because the pre-play inspirational-type cheering doesn’t come through as well as it does when I’m watching games from other stadiums. However, the boos do come over loud and clear for some reason.
last chance for the Yanks. Win or they’ll be in a hole so deep – I don’t think they could win if they had 3 joba’s on the staff.
A-Rod has hit in the clutch his whole career?? Sure, if you don’t count the nearly 5 years of his career as a Yankee.
Doreen’s comment about the crowds at the Stadium are absolutely correct. Anyone who regularly attends games will attest to that.
ZMAN7777
I hope I’m right, too.
It seems we won’t get that answer this season, so I’m also hoping we’ll find out next year.
Brandon:
Not disagreeing with you, just expanding on the point. Sorry if it came out that way. He’s definitely not taking what he’s being given. Even when he swings at bad pitches, if he goes with them, then he’ll send them the other way or do something other than GIDP. But he’s swinging so hard and pulling everything that he’s going after bad pitches and/or hitting weak grounders. It’s so disappointing.
Given what Yankees fans are paying to attend games, they have every right to boo, hiss, or turn their back on poor performance.
Let’s face it, a big problem with A-Rod is that he’s simply not very likable. Fans don’t see in him a gritty, team-first guy. The image he projects is one of detached cool, of being “above the fray”. He’s polished to the point of not being real.
doreen,
So true about the booing. That’s a post-96 thing.
I don’t fault Girardi for defending Arod. I guess he can score fan points and embarrass him like Torre did two years ago. How did that work?
There are a LOT bigger problems on this team than Arod.
Tim Boat: That’s what the Stadium USED to be famous for — proactive rooting — encouraging the players when they had a chance to do something good, not just after they did it. It was one of the big differences I used to notice between the Stadium and Fenway, where it used to be that they would sit there glumly unless and until something good had already happened. I used to never understand Fenway crowds at all. Now I’m beginning to get a clue. It’s about crowds who’ve been disappointed too often and just don’t want to set themselves up for disappointment. Meantime Fenway crowds have become pro-active rooters. What I thought was the difference between New York and Boston turned out to be the difference between fans expecting the best and fans fearing the worst.
Girardi isn’t stubborn. He simply lacks the balls to do what he is supposed to do, manage the team, manage the lineup, and put the team with the best chance to win on the field. For about two months now it has been obvious that the team with the best chance to win does not have a-rod hiting cleanup. Only one conclusion to draw and that is that Girardi is in denial of reality. It’s called insanity.
Girardi just doesn’t get it.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results such as the case with Giambi.
No hope today means less disappointment tomorrow.
Tim Boat,
I go to over 15 games a year and Doreen’s perception of the crowd is on the money. Sometimes I wonder if there would be any noise if the centerfield scoreboard didnt implore people to yell.
And there’s no need to disrespect anyone here either.
Funny thing was I went to one of the games in Baltimore this weekend, sat in Section 208, which seemed to be 100% Yankee fans. Same thing happened there and the few times anyone (myself included) tried to do one of those inspirational, motivational, rah-rah things, well, if no one joins in, you feel kinda silly. But if a few people start together, it gets picked up by a lot more people.
Joey’s Poodle,
That’s a very good observation. I’ve thought that myself.
Drive 4-5 -
Thank Heavens for the Centerfield Scoreboard!!!
“CHARGE!”
ZMAN7777- If Babe Ruth[circa 1927] was on the present team, we wouldn’t have signed A-rod to a 10 year deal.
Only thing that keeps Giambi out of the 5 spot is rest or an injury. Giambi could have pushed his average up, by learning how to bunt down the 3rd base line against the shift. Imagine getting a 5M buyout, for doing nothing. He could retire and become an announcer. To think we could have signed Ortiz that year instead of Giambi, and kept Tino another year!
Joey’s poodle nailed it re: the crowds. Couldn’t be more correct.
i cannot believe some of you people bashing arod. this guy had a historic season last year!!! one for the ages with 54 HRs/154 RBIs and won his 2nd MVP as a yankee! he carried us on his back to the playoffs and hit 9 9th inning HRs. he had 2 walkoffs in the first week of the season,
this guy is the BEST BEST player in baseball bar none. the guy iis going to break barry bonds record for HRS!! do you realize how much money and fame he is going to bring us?
20 years from now, you will be teeling your kids/greatkids/great grand kids that the all-time HR leader donned pinstripes and did amazing things.
be is class on the field and off the field. so hes not clutch, either was payton manning. arod will have his day. what i do know is that he will be the clean HR leader by the end of his career and he will do it in yankee stadium and he will make us hudereds of millions of dollers in revenue. yankee stadium will be sold out for years to watch him, he is a legend like ruth, damaggio, babe etc.
But booing at the Stadium, unlike sitting like lumps, is not a recent development at all. Yankees fans have been great boo-ers over the years and some of the most historic Yankees have heard themselves booed at home for bad play.
“He could retire and become an announcer.”
Trader — I doubt Jason possesses the vocabularly or verbal skills necessary to succeed in a media job. He’s not exactly Michael Strahan.
yea Girardi should bury his best player. That would be smart, Arod has 9 yrs. left on his deal and brain surgeons want the coach to bury his best player and the rationale is????
Yea he should be honest like Peter wants and say arod sucks,ditto for giambi and cano, and etc.
IT makes no sense, clowns
Mark007:
I don’t think people are disputing the fact that ARod is the most talented player in the game (possibly ever, depending on who you talk to). However, his performance this year, especially in “clutch” situations has been very disappointing. It’s not about how much “money and fame he brings us” but what he does on the field to win games. Hitting HRs is great and all, but if the Yankees still lose the game, what’s the ultimate point? He had plenty of that in Texas and left because he wanted to go to a winning team and win a WS. In 20 years, I’d rather remember him as the guy that led the team to 4 or 5 championships rather than led the team in HRs every year.
Peyton Manning was also seen as a “choker” in the playoffs and he had to win the Super Bowl to prove people wrong. Until ARod is on a WS Championship team, he’ll still be seen as such. But if he at least produced in the post-season, most would say “well, they didn’t win, but at least he did his part”. However, his numbers show otherwise.
Oh, and exactly how famous and rich are “we” going to be because of his HR chase?
mark007,
Don’t know about bragging to the grandkids part. As great as he is, he’s just not one of the heroes (yet). He’s really hard to root for. Very hard to explain, but most people know what I’m talking about.
I cheer for him because I cheer for the laundry. I only care about what he can do for my team. Once he’s gone, I won’t think about him twice.
I wonder if a PR campaign would help his Q-factor?
well whatever happens tonight ill still be a yankee fan and thats a fact.
this season will definitly seperate the real yankee fans from the ones that are only fans of teams that win.
GO YANKEES!
Joey’s Poodle,
It’s not just Yankee Stadium. At times Ted Williams was booed terribly at Fenway. Jim Rice and Bob Stanley had a very rough time of it. Heck, Bill Buckner had to move to Montana to get away from it even after he retired. The great Mike Schmidt was booed in Philly.
I think it’s more of an East Coast thing though. The fans are just much more passionate.
ZMAN7777-Good Point!! Drugs do that to you!
Mark 007-Your comment is meant to be funny, right???
A-Rod or Pujols-hmm that didn’t take long to figure out whose better!!
Legend-A-Rod??? NO!! Michael is a legend with all his talent and titles. Tiger is a legend with all his talent and titles!! A-Rod has talent, albeit a lot of it wasted and has no titles, so no he is not a legend, except in his own mind.
Whoa! Interesting game in Seattle. Vidro just tied it up with a first pitch swat.
I love how everyone is bashing A-rod like he has never had a clutch hit in his life. He is having a terrible year in the clutch this year let me remind you of his previous seasons.
2007 Situational stats for Alex Rodriguez:
Bases empty- .296 AVG, 18 HR, 18 RBI
Runners on- .329 AVG, 36 HR, 138 RBI
RISP- .333 AVG, 18 HR, 98 RBI
RISP w/2 outs- .318 AVG, 12 HR, 46 RBI
Bases Loaded- .500 AVG, 3 HR, 25 RBI
2006 Situational stats for Alex Rodriguez:
Bases empty- .288 AVG, 16 HR, 16 RBI
Runners on- .293 AVG, 19 HR, 105 RBI
RISP- .302 AVG, 10 HR, 85 RBI
RISP w/2 outs- .313 AVG, 4 HR 33 RBI
Bases loaded- .474 AVG, 2 HR, 25 RBI
2005 Situational stats for Alex Rodriguez:
Bases empty- .337 AVG, 27 HR, 27 RBI
Runners on- .305 AVG, 21 HR, 103 RBI
RISP- .290, 9 HR, 77 RBI
RISP w/2 outs- .302 AVG, 5 HR, 38 RBI
Bases loaded- .438 AVG, 1 HR, 20 RBI
Those are his numbers the past 3 years so before you start your rant on how unclutch he is and how you want to trade him for Bronson Arroyo examine the facts first. Don’t believe the numbers I posted above? I’m sure you have Google look it up. He is having a horrific year but then again so are most of the Yankees so don’t be so quick to condemn A-Rod.
“do you realize how much money and fame he is going to bring us?”
Yes, the Yankees have been toiling in obscurity far too long. I’m tired of getting quizical looks when I don my NY cap.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9.....451651434/
*Lopez not Vidro.
Drive 4-5,
My experience, too — the first games I ever watched were at Dodger Stadium, where I was taken by my parents — and Yankee Stadium somewhat of a shock when I moved here years ago. But it was a pleasant, exhilarating shock — the passion was high and many fans were quite discriminating about what they booed and cheered. It was something a young fan could learn from — what was worth getting worked up about, for good or bad, in a game. I wonder if being told when to cheer by an animated scoreboard has undercut some of that discrimination?
Speaking of booing.
I have never booed a player. But i have cussed at them on the t.v. set after a bad play. I mean F-Bombs, S.O.B., get this sorry A of this team and much more. Does this make me a bad fan? Is it the same as booing in a stadium? I just use F-bombs in stadiums. No kids around of coarse.
AL from BK-
Statistics are fine, and the poor hitting applies to just about everyone on that team. What’s disturbing, is which A-Rod will show up the each of the next 9 years while being paid the highest yearly salary in the history of baseball?
A-Rod is a goat
i hate him
does girardi ever say the players did something bad? lol
I wouldn’t be shocked if A-Rod requests a trade this off-season to a West Coast team.
Al from BK what are you doing? LOL
Just listened to the Girardi audio. The media should stick to reporting on what happens and leave psychoanalysis to licensed professionals.
Lets have some possitive talk. Jeter has commited 10 errors this year. Any chance of getting another gold glove?
Justin C,
Well, I did hear him say that Damon wasn’t comfortable bunting.
You know, 2014 isn’t so far away. If the New York A-Rods haven’t won the Series by then, it will be only 14 years since the last one. Let’s count the MLB franchises that haven’t won a Series in the past 14 years:
Dodgers (last won 20 years ago)
Giants
Cubs
Pirates
Reds (won 18 years ago)
Phillies
Mets
Blue Jays (won 15 years ago)
Orioles
Tigers
Indians
Twins (won 17 years ago)
Athletics (won 19 years ago)
And the teams that have NEVER won:
Rockies
Padres
Astros
Brewers
Nationals
Mariners
Rangers
Rays
Stop acting like you’re entitled to see your team win championships all the time. For most fans, it’s a long time coming.
David
August 27th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I do think that they should slip Nady between A-Rod and Giambi. Neither A-Rod or Giambi can hit lefties, so you have Abreu, Arod and Giambi all in a row. A-rod also cannot hit rightys, which makes it tough to act on this logic, but at least you can get someone in from 2nd or 3rd base.
Since Damon does not steal bases anymore, they should switch him and Jeter in the lineup. Jeter can get on base if that is what he is supposed to do (stop sac bunting in the 4th inning!!). Damon has more power than Jeter. Let Damon’s hits count for some RBI.
____________________________________________________
I get the feeling that I’m going to regret this, I’ll try asking these questions, point by point.
1. Can you explain how somebody that can’t hit left handers or right handers manages to hit .310 with 28 homers? (This better be good, too.)
2. who in the MLB offices would have been dishonest enough to credit Damon with 23 steals that he didn’t earn? Wait until Bud Selig finds out about this one.
3. Now, I’m a little rusty on the new math, but, when I learn about new math, 9 steals like Jeter has was less than the 23 steals that Damon has been fraudulantly creditted with. Could you explain the new math, please?
A-Rod can request a trade all he wants he isn’t going anywhere
1) No one will pay him that salary but the Yankees
2) The Yankees would never get his “supposed value” in return
He is here to stay for the next 9 years
Forntoso,
There’s a few more days before the roster deadline. How about an A-rod/Manny trade? A lot of $$ would come off the books.
“Stop acting like you’re entitled to see your team win championships all the time. For most fans, it’s a long time coming.”
mel,
Not all the time but if my math is right. Im entitled to a championship once every for years. So im expecting a back to back any momment now.
“AL from BK-
Statistics are fine, and the poor hitting applies to just about everyone on that team. What’s disturbing, is which A-Rod will show up the each of the next 9 years while being paid the highest yearly salary in the history of baseball?”
Just trying tom prove that he has indeed hit in the clutch the past three years and that this year is a horrible aberration IMO.
“Al from BK what are you doing? LOL”
Using statistical facts to back up my unpopular opinion that A-Rod shouldn’t be burnt at the stake like most people in here and in the media would like to do. This year is just an ugly blip in Yankees history, EVERYONE has underperformed with the exception of MO, Moose and Damon.
Who does Truthless Joe think he’s kidding?
Pete, can you give us any indication of the number of journalists attending Torre’s pre and postgame conferences vs Girardi’s?
I can’t really see that there’s any point in anyone showing up for Girardi’s. He either doesn’t comment, spouts glib corporate marketing spiel like this, or just flat out tells lies.
Maybe A-Rod is boycotting the team for not getting Santana?
Chances:
Win remaining two against Boston
2 out 3 against Toronto[against Holiday and Burnett]
1 0ut 1 @ Detroit-makeup game
2 out 3 @Tampa
3 out 3 @ Seattle
2 out of 3 @ Anaheim
2 out 3 home against Tampa
3 out 4 home against Chicago
3out 3 home against Baltimore
2 out of 3 @ Toronto
2 out of 3 @ Boston
24-7 down the stretch-that should do the trick finishing at 94-68.
“Just listened to the Girardi audio. The media should stick to reporting on what happens and leave psychoanalysis to licensed professionals.”
Funny you should say that pat. I was reading some political articles today and they were talking about Hillary Clintons body language at yesterdays speach. They said that she didnt have a smile from ear to ear. More like a crocidile smile. So that meant she wasnt really meaning what she said and supporting Obama. Can you see writers doing that with Girardi?
Yes or No: If Pavano pitches well down the stretch, will he get a multi-year offer from any MLB team?
There goes Girardi lying again… saying that A-Rod hit in the clutch his whole career.
Next thing you know he’ll say Damon has a cannon arm in center, Hughes will be an ace, Giambi is a great all-round hitter, and Rivera does well in tie games.
heres the good news. cano is doing well! atleast offensively.
“mel,
Not all the time but if my math is right. Im entitled to a championship once every for years. So im expecting a back to back any momment now.”
Sorry mel. Meant aardyark
at this point id rather bring back pavano than pettitte.
I love how A-Rod hating is more popular than pokemon or tamigochi. It should be an Olympic sport, Steve Phillips can be the chairman and the rest of the media can compete by asking the most anti-A-rod questions.
aardvark,
As a Red sox fan I know you can’t relate to this, but the New York Yankees are the gold standard of American sports. The Red Sox have had recent success,but they are still wannabe’s. 39 pennants and 26 World Championships werent accomplished by having average expectations. Being satisfied with winning 6 times in 90 years aint for us.
“Using statistical facts to back up my unpopular opinion that A-Rod shouldn’t be burnt at the stake like most people in here and in the media would like to do.”
al for bk
Statistical shmatistical. Some would say he still isnt clutch because he hasnt launched a homer in an important playoff game. Probably the same people who think Beckett is the best pitcher ever.
when will brett garnder get a start? or even pinch run?
24-7? Yes its dueable Yankee trader. One game at a time. Whos with me!!!
Checking out now but wanted to add to the collective playlist “Kind of Blue”, greatest jazz album of all time, by Miles Davis.
Remember Steve Phillips suggested trading A-Rod for Brandon McCarthy or Sean Marshall/Rich Hill?
More popular than pokemon? Of course.
Pachinko? No way.
“I love how A-Rod hating is more popular than pokemon or tamigochi.”
Tamigochi? Iv heard of Pokemon and Yu gi oh but never tamigochi. Man i have to pay more attention to what my kids are watching nowadays.
“There goes Girardi lying again… saying that A-Rod hit in the clutch his whole career.”
Girardi didn’t say this year, he said career. How is saying someone is a .303 career hitter with RISP a lie?
“when will brett garnder get a start? or even pinch run?”
brett can’t bunt.
he’s an embarrassment to short people everywhere.
how can brett not know how to bunt?
isn’t that like his reason for being? put the ball in play anyway he can, and run like hell.
“Remember Steve Phillips suggested trading A-Rod for Brandon McCarthy or Sean Marshall/Rich Hill?”
lol.
sos
The psychoanalysis really does amaze me. People go to licensed therapists for years who can’t really figure out what is wrong with some of them but Sports and Political writers have it all figured out.
The real issue is that regardless of how well or poor A-Rod does, he will never get credit for being good. Funny, when he was out of the lineup it was horrible. While that hasn’t recovered this year, almost everyone on the board was talking about “now we see what this lineup would have been like without A-Rod.”
I think the biggest problem this year with A-Rod is he is trying too hard to come through because others are so flat. Every player has poor years, yet A-Rod, who isn’t having a great year, is STILL having a year that just about every other player in the league would be happy to have. Over .300 hitting, decent OBP, above average HR totals and all with missing nearly a month of playing time due to injury.
Last year he carried the team. There would have been no post season if A-Rod were not on the team.
Get a clue please. He isn’t perfect. No one is. His problem is he tries to be and fails.
So it goes.
PLaying Giambi in the 5-hole is so stubborn of Giradi it drives me nuts.
It has cost us probably 5-15 games this year and giradi’s stubborness on this neerds to be punished
” truly believe, that when the Yankees didn’t improve with the addition of Nady Marte and I-Rod, that the Steinbrenners, not publicly admitting it, told Cashman to forget about adding anyone put on waivers.”
are you crazy? hank showed up not for just one ,not just two, but he even showed up for three games at yankee stadium this year.
what more can hank do to show his interest in being in line to own a billion dollar franchise?
if that doesn’t show how interested and committed hank is to yankee excellence , i don’t know what does.
Joey’s Poodle August 27th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
“Checking out now but wanted to add to the collective playlist “Kind of Blueâ€, greatest jazz album of all time, by Miles Davis”
You are so right!!!!
Hey Pat, you are forgetting that ARod’s .303 career RISP includes all the two-run homers and RBI singles that came with a 7-run lead or a 7-run deficit. A-Rod and Giambi will beat up on Byrd tonight but don’t be fooled, they still are not getting the job done.
“Using statistical facts to back up my unpopular opinion that A-Rod shouldn’t be burnt at the stake like most people in here and in the media would like to do. This year is just an ugly blip in Yankees history, EVERYONE has underperformed with the exception of MO, Moose and Damon.”
I know Al. I just hate to see you wasting that valuable oxygen. LOL
David Cone on YES pregame right now is spot-on – Alex is pressing. And like someone – SJ44? – pointed out a while ago, this started months ago, when we Matsui and Posada first got hurt, when runs were scarce due to injuries, weather, and old age. And failure, like success, builds upon itself. Unfortunately, this ain’t going to change this season, I don’t think.
In the short term, Jason is just struggling, period. He no longer is a good hitter, now a slugger who’s career is coming to an end. Like my stepson tells me, “get real” – Jason’s glory days are over, they ain’t coming back, and the sooner we – and that’s Joe G. – realize that, the better off we’ll all be.
These two hitters, and their respective issues, have been killing us all year. For all the injuries to Wang, Joba and whomever, if they hit now and then with RISP, we’re in the middle of the chase, instead of outside looking in.
Just my two cents, off my chest. Watching this is killing me.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3555189
LOL. Guillen in the same boat as A-rod. Makes less than half of what A-rod makes, but still. Got a pair, that’s for sure.
To me it is a positive thing that the closest Joe Girardi has come to throwing any of his players under the bus (oh, that phrase is like nails on a chalkboard, but…) is when he said Damon didn’t feel comfortable bunting. I don’t think it solves anything for a manager to wash his dirty laundry in public and I don’t care if he sounds like an idiot defending players who are clearly underperforming. How he takes care of that in private is more important.
Leyland chewed his players out earlier this season. It seemed to help for a few games, but Detroit’s pretty much out of it. Ultimately, I think it leaves a bad taste in the mouth when you do that.
I’ll admit A-Rod had a bday game lst night, He is however the best all around player on the team.
I find it funny how people don’t like Cano because he’s lazy, and yet people hate A-Rod who is one of the hardest working players in the game.
I guess what the Yankees need is more Scrappy Mcscrapter type players right? Trade A-Rod and move Jeter to third and sign Eikstein to play short? Surely the team would be better off no?
There is no such thing as clutch (unless you’re talking bout a car or handbag), luck, four leaf clovers don’t work, neither do lucky rabbits feet or gold thongs or moustaches either. 13 is not a bad luck number, if a black cat crosses your path you surely will not imminently die nor will you break your mother’s back if you step on a crack. I promise you.
Has there ever been a better player than A-Rod who is hated by his own team’s fans as much as A-Rod? Barry Bonds who by all accounts is a colossal jerk is still loved by San Franciscans. Hate em or love him you’ll probaly never again in your life witness a more polarizing person.
“ARod’s .303 career RISP includes all the two-run homers and RBI singles that came with a 7-run lead or a 7-run deficit.”
So do everyone else’s.
Giambi has good numbers against Byrd but A-Rod has terrible numbers against Byrd so if he beats up on Byrd I will be fooled by it. It’s all about expectations.
“In the short term, Jason is just struggling, period. He no longer is a good hitter, now a slugger who’s career is coming to an end.”
translation: They now test for steroids, so this guy is a borderline major-leaguer. He still has HGH but it is not enough.
Doreen,
It must be a guy thing. Pete and the boys here want it spelled out. “Well, obviously, calling the bunt would’ve been the right thing to do, but as you saw in the last game Damon can’t bunt for $hi&” The girls are a little more intuitive and can understand Girardi-speak.
RIP Yankees 2008
See you all in 2009!
“Among his comments is that A-Rod has hit in the clutch his whole career.”
That’s debatable.
Giambi still in the 5 hole, Ponson pitching, and Pudge catching. This is not a recipe for success.
mel
Did nobody teach Mr. Guillen to use his words not his fists when he was in grade school?
If A-Rod had to be restrained from a fan it would break into regularly scheduled programming around the country.
mel -
Does that mean Girardi is more in touch with his feminine side?
Didn’t read any of the posts yet so I will merely say that I have a feeling that Ponson will do the Yankees proud and Yankees will take the game.
GO YANKEES!!!
(please)
“Giambi still in the 5 hole, Ponson pitching, and Pudge catching. This is not a recipe for success.”
What’s the old line, “The Old Guard dies, but it never surrenders!”
anyone else dislike Joe G? +1 if you do.
My rules for tonights game.
Damon: Swing Away
Jeter: Cannot Swing At First Two Pitches
Abreau: Swing Away
AROD: Cannot Swing At The First 4 Pitches Unless Has 2 Strikes
Giambi: Uhm, Whatever..
Nady: Swing Away
Mastsui: Swing Away
Cano: See Jeter
My lineup would be:
Damon
Nady
Abreau
Matsui
Arod
Cano
Giambi
Jeter
Irod
Geez, I am sure glad it is the end of the year since this manager is still with the lineup that does not work.
First, I see no reason for you to attack me personally. I don’t do that to anyone else here, and it’s really not necessary. If you want to say, “I’ve been to the Stadium, and it’s not like that in person,†then I’d have to answer you, that no, I haven’t had the pleasure of being at the Stadium in a number of years, I only get to watch on television. However, I HAVE been to live baseball games and often.
I’m not attacking you personally. I’m saying that your entire comment is stupid and uninformed. People are constantly on their feet and cheering whether a Yankee pitcher is on the mound with a 2 strike count or one of our guys is up at the plate in a big spot. Basing all your assumptions on what’s transpired over the last few games isn’t much of a basis for your argument.
Ohhhh, you guys were doing a soundtrack to the disappointing season/possibly soon-to-be-disappointing game before? That is definitely my kind of thing, sorry I missed it but I’ll offer a few belated picks:
Smashing Pumpkins – “Zero”
The Misfits – “We Bite”
Beck – “Loser”
Green Day – “Nice Guys Finish Last”
Nine Inch Nails – “Down In It”
Faith No More – “We Care A Lot” (reminiscent of empty words in postgame interviews :\ )
David Bowie/Queen – “Under Pressure” (no brainer)
Donna Summer – “Last Danc…nah, nevermind, disco sucks.
Now I will end up listening to all these songs tonight, except that last one. Oh well….regardless, go Yankees!!
LOL. Guardado really is Everyday Eddie..
“so the stadium is quiet? first time i ever heard that. that whole paragraph reeks of stupidity. have you ever been to any baseball games in your life? I’ve been to my fair share of parks and no crowd is into the game like a Yankee Stadium crowd. seriously, what an ignorant and mornic statement. do you have any idea of what you’re talking about?”
Wow, this is so uncalled for. The mean-spirited personal attacks aside, you are actually wrong.
Yankee Stadium is in fact pretty quiet compared to what it used to be. No crowd is into a game like a Yankee Stadium crowd you say? It’s true in the past, but definitely not this season. I can’t tell you how often I roll my eyes these days at a game when people around me are comparing notes on which broadway show is better or which stands in Chinatown to buy the best fake Fendi bags. People just don’t care anymore. I’d say this summer half the Stadium are Yankee fans, the other half are visitors. To them, the Stadium is just an item on a tour guide check list, right along the David Letterman Show.
well i hope we do better than last night.. dont know what else to reall say besides “hey guys”.. lol
how is the weather back home in the boogie down? i am in ATL sorry i cant look out my window in the bx no more
How about this one? It says it all:
What’s Up? (aka What’s going on?) by 4 Non-blondes
“I’d say this summer half the Stadium are Yankee fans, the other half are visitors. To them, the Stadium is just an item on a tour guide check list, right along the David Letterman Show.”
That’s terrible, especially in the last year of the Stadium. And those visitors, casual fans, whatever you want to call them are the ones that cheer every shallow flyball like it’s a certain home run. Then people around the country see that on ESPN and think Yankee fans are dumb, not realizing that it’s really that we just have more “visitors” than them. I hate that.
Pat, what needs to happen is that before every gamr for a week, baseball needs to line up the fans identified as being abusive, and let the players go to the offenders work places and homes and insult them and their families for 30 minutes….anything they can think of…nothing off limits.
mel, that 4 Non-Blondes song might be the worst thing of the last 25 years. Maybe longer? Yuck, I would ask for a little advance notice before that comes on so I can chomp down on the cycanide capsule.
“casual fans, whatever you want to call them are the ones that cheer every shallow flyball like it’s a certain home run.”
Don’t call John “High, Far, Deep, Caught on the warning track” Sterling a casual fan. He’s just ‘challenged’.
So….when do pitchers and catchers have report?
Dee, I haven’t been to the Stadium in a couple of weeks, but last time I was there, the crowd around me seemed like they’ve always been. Now, that may just be my location – I’ve been in the same seats on my Saturday plan for a couple of years, and the same group always shows up, and we have a generally good time, more so if Yanks win. I’m not saying you’re observation is wrong, believe me, but it may be more of a reflection of people being less than enthusiastic about the quality of play thay they’re seeing. You can’t argue that the team has not been playing well lately. Well, more than just lately.
“I’m saying that your entire comment is stupid and uninformed. People are constantly on their feet and cheering whether a Yankee pitcher is on the mound with a 2 strike count or one of our guys is up at the plate in a big spot. Basing all your assumptions on what’s transpired over the last few games isn’t much of a basis for your argument.”
You must sit in the lucky super fan section. And I’d love to know which section that is so I can try to sneak in. Because from where I sit twice a week, what you’re describing is a rare sight.
Tim Boat -
I wasn’t talking about just the last few games. It’s an observation I’ve had for the last couple of seasons. Again, I will repeat what I said since you seem to be missing the point I’m trying to make. Yes, the people in the Stadium do get up on their feet when the count is 0-2 and if a guy is up in a big spot. What is missing is before the big spot, okay? I mean, like at the start of an inning before a pitch has been thrown, in order to try and help the team get things started. That’s what I’m talking about.
No doubt when things are already happening at the Stadium it is one of the loudest most supportive crowds around. But the tendency is most people wait until the inning is in the thick of it to get going. There are exceptions, of course. There are people who still do what I’m talking about. But it doesn’t come through over the television.
I don’t make moronic and stupid comments. I do not always get it right, and when I don’t, I usually admit it. I’m telling you what I’ve seen/heard. I try not to comment on things I’m not informed about. I’ve told you this was my personal observation. There were others here who’ve agreed with me.
If your experience is different, that’s all you have to say.
um, no offense intended, of course. I’m sure Linda Perry’s mom is still proud of her and all.
BTW – I am delighted/amazed my soundtrack idea is still cooking –
I’ve added ‘Barely Breathing’ by fan-favorite Duncan Sheikh.
“I’m not attacking you personally. I’m saying that your entire comment is stupid and uninformed.”
That sounds like your attacking what she said to me. Your uninformed of what attacking means.
Just to let you guys know. In Anaheim stadium of los angeles california of the u.s. earth. Us Yankee fans are less now than we were 10 years ago. But still standing and as loud. Till the game ends and we have lost once again.
I posted something in an earlier thread about how much more time I will spend here if this turns into a totally abusive site (not that anyone cares but at least if I disappear nobody can accuse me of leaving because of Yankee losses!)
I feel that I have the right to hold onto any optimism I might feel for as long as I feel without being called names and abused by people who don’t agree. I pointed out that it is my opinion that people who are optimistic only ask to be left alone to feel whatever way they want, but they don’t feel the need to tell pessimistic they must come along; people who are pessimistic seem to feel they have the right to dump on optimists and be personally abusive.
If this place descends into a venue dedicated to nothing but trashing everything Yankee and punishing those of us who don’t feel the same way, then I will disappear and go to more friendly and stable ground.
Thanks.
Here we go, 2 batters, 2 balls hit hard.
Nick,
Wow. I love that song. I will say I was shocked that the singer wasn’t a male.
Stick to your Rick Astley. I’ll stick with the edgier stuff.
So I guess no more no-hitter for Ponson
Crowds at the stadium have changed over the last 10 years IMO.
More casual fans now as seeing the Yanks is in “in” thing to do. The chants used to fun and inventive.
Here we go!!!
Come on Sid!
Dee -
Do you think next season will be more of the same because the Stadium is new? I mean it will be a new “sight” for the “see-ers” to see. Maybe after that it will get back to some sort of normal.
Come on Sidney.
3 batters, 3 balls hit hard. Lovely start.
Let’s hope that Sidney is a magician tonight. Sux are not one of his best opponents in terms of his being effective.
Joe, man I wish I’m in your area. My season ticket neighbors have been selling their tickets to high bidders who want to see the Stadium’s last year. They are all bailing on me. Now I’m always sitting among people who don’t really care about the Yankees or know nothing about baseball. I’ve been asked if the guy pitching (who happened to by Andy that day) was Derek Jeter.
what is with all the Ortiz doubles these days?? Since when is he that fast?
Doreen-we still love you and your posts. No need to explain. Your oppinions are appreciated in here.
Outs Sidney! We need 2 more
I have MILB tv..checking out Phil Hughes…I’ll keep everyone updated..should be a good test hes going up against some guys down on rehab assignments…Vic Martinez..Travis Hafner etc.
Hey Sydney, pitch better quickly or the optimists might feel like they aren’t being properly left alone… or something.
Nick – I believe it was VH1 (and their cavalcade of awesomely bad songs) that deemed the 4 Non Blondes song the Worst Song Ever a few years back. But I still say it’s a walk in the park compared to the Rednex’ Cotton Eyed Joe. The Yankees need to leave that one at the old ballpark!
One more Sid.
4 non Blondes? Edgy? I think not
Jeter. That guys edgy.
“Stick to your Rick Astley. I’ll stick with the edgier stuff.”
Oh mel. No. Please don’t.
Hanging something, gets a K. Way to go!!
NICE!!! Try to argue that one Pukeilis!
Thanks, SOS27.
(I guess a part of me just wants to try and get across that a person can disagree amicably, and that web etiquette does exist and does mean something.)
Go Yankees.
Let Jason and A-Rod sit out. At least switch up the lineup. Toughest lineup in baseball? I could hit as well as they have been lately and I’m 52! And a woman!
Playlist contribution: American Pie by Don McLean. Oldie but a goodie.
Well, everybody saw that coming… at least we can try again tomorrow.
here we go again
2 – 0 SUX
Why did Nady short arm that ball? He’s a clutch hitter but stinks in the field.
Not a good start, in the least. When am I going to stop watching these guys? I just can’t stop.
sigh
Hopefully the offense doesnt decide to tip their caps to Byrd tonight.
Jason Bay is standing on second saying “Manny who”?
Not quite what I had in mind. But hopefully we’ll get to Byrd.
Court jesters have a place in life – but usually never where they show up.
Well there goes my attempt at optimism.
The bells are tolling.
Ugh its started already on here.
Who thew rocks into the cesspool?
“Stick to your Rick Astley”
Could be worse – Spandau Ballet?
“Why did Nady short arm that ball? He’s a clutch hitter but stinks in the field.”
That was Nady’s fault? At least he made a hard attempt at catching the ball. Abreu would have let it drop nicely in front of him and toss it back in.
alot of hangers.
Doreen,
I’m not sure about normalcy, as I may not be able to afford tickets myself at the new Stadium. I’ve been seeing a lot of suits lately, which there always were in the field sections. But I see them a lot more now in other sections, so the business crowd is spilling over. It will probably get worse next year with the new prices. I run a business myself in my day job, but I don’t like to be surrounded by that when I go to the game at night and on weekends.
bad umping continues.
Right before that double, I thought to myself, “This team (the Yankees) is going to get messed up tonight.” That’s indicative of the sloppy, underachieving crap I’ve exposed myself to for most of the season.
These guys look like a bunch of pansies and I am just tired of it.
Geez, that Ponson’s good, isn’t he? Don’t understand why the rest of the league doesn’t rack him.
Here we go again!
I resent anyone impling that Sydney Ponson is a court jester. He was knighted by Queen Beatrix herself!
on a positive note, it sounds like Mr. Shepard is back at the microphone. At the very least, we have a legend who produces every time he gets an opportunity behind the microphone.
Must be nice to have a cleanup hitter and a # 5 hitter that can actually hit with RISP.
Thing is the two guys hitting 4th and 5th for Boston are fill ins. We got a cleanup hitter 100 X`s better that cant do a thing
Yeah it was Nady’s fault. Damon would have made that play. All he had to do was reach his arm out. He thought he had it, he misjudged it.
I think Joe Girardi has a professional responsibility to get tossed out of this game if it continues this way. I say the over/under is 7th inning.
A man has to know his limitations.
Over/Under on 2 innings for Ponson?
Maybe we should play the “How many runs Sidney gives up” Drinking game..
2 shots already people
I almost feel that three years from now or something we’re going to find out that some umpires bet on the games and took payola to throw games, a la the NBA.
This reminds me of when the Yankees marched into Fenway and took 5 straight – only in reverse.
Watch Varitek hit a HR here to finish our season.
TK,
True defined an era.
one more out – PLEASE
this is ugly already. We HAVE to hit Byrd early and often now. And that’s exactly why I fear the offense won’t, because they know they MUST.
I feel bad for Sid. His talent really is limited, but I feel like he hasn’t always gotten the same effort back from the lineup that he has put in. Same for Ras though to a lesser degree.
wow great throw by abreu! way to save this inning.
Jason held at bay!
Good job Bobby.
But is it bad when it’s only the first inning and I’m already wondering who’s available in the bullpen?
Or perhaps we could play the “How many years has it been since the Yankees were this crappy” game.
Its been a long time.
The one thing Pudge can still do is block the plate. Unfortunately it’s the only thing I’ve been impressed with since he’s been here.
Nice, Bobby!
Was he out for sure on NESN?
nice throw Bobby!!!!
said perfectly
“But is it bad when it’s only the first inning and I’m already wondering who’s available in the bullpen?”
No, it would have been OK to be wondering that before the game started. The Red Sox do this to Ponson EVERY single time they face him. There’s no reason the Yankees should have sent Ponson out there tonight.
So Ponson got outs on a hard hit ball, a hanging slider strikeout and a runner out at the plate. Marvelous job, really.
Get to work bats
That terrible right fielder with the meaningless assists!!!!
Stat padder.
(Sarcasm)
Bay showing up his BFF Nady is all kinds of wrong.
Has the clock struck 12 for Ponson. He looks awful. Have we gone to him too many times? Someone earlier mentioned this game will be won by the first team to reach 21. Lets be the first ones Yankees!!
Geez, at this point I really don’t care if they make the playoffs but I’d like to see at least one more classic Yankee-Red Sox match up before they leave the stadium
Hey I hope someone figures out whether Bobby was out on NESN because I wouldn’t want people who wonder to be upset – or something.
Alright,
Need to at LEAST work this pitcher.
Yankees don’t have to worry about the fastball as long as they don’t swing at Byrd’s other pitches.
Looking at the game on satelite in Newfoundland and there is nothing as bad as the Boston Annoucers …
we may have caught a break there …he might have been safe
Sir Sidney was knighted? Consider the source:
http://www.thedailyherald.com/...../queen.jpg
Do you trust this woman at 3 am?
great swings by damon so far…
If we lose to both Wakefield and Byrd, then it’s pretty clear we have no business even getting a whiff of the postseason (no A-Rod-related pun intended).
WTH how was that a strike??????????
…That wasn’t even close.
Oh man,
Another pitch that the umps didn’t give our pitcher.
Does anyone here really still believe that QuesTec shouldn’t be calling every single game? The umpires are pathetic. They should all lose their jobs because of calls like that.
“True defined an era.”
Ha ha ha ha ha . . . I know this.
We are in my wheelhouse now – try Human League on for size mel!
grrrrr
j
Even Orsillo on NESN just said you can’t blame Johnny there.
Now that was way outside, same spot Ponson threw to and didn’t get the call. This is getting ridiculous.
oh, that’s cute. looks like the umps want to dookie us in the booty again.
Yankees can’t catch a break. That ump needs to go back to the minors.
whos paying off the umps, these guys have been absolutely brutal
As if our team isnt unwatchable enough, the umps have to be clueless as well
Is it me or do our opponents seem to come through regularly with 2 outs and RISP?
Well so much for having a makeup night by the officials.
“Geez, at this point I really don’t care if they make the playoffs but I’d like to see at least one more classic Yankee-Red Sox match up before they leave the stadium”
Word up.
“Now that was way outside, same spot Ponson threw to and didn’t get the call. This is getting ridiculous.”
sometimes the two seam left to right movement makes it look a little more like a strike i guess.
trisha,
Bay was out for sure.
Pretty good play by Ellsbury. Damon did get robbed, though.
Wow…bad umps last night and tonight. Bad first inning and things looking even bleaker. Talk about absolutely no luck.
these umps are awful.
That first pitch ball to Abreu was closer than the 3-2 pitch to Damon. Pathetic.
wow what an clueless ump.
At this point I couldn’t care less about one last great matchup at the stadium. I want the Yankees to win, regardless of where it occurs. Obviously that is a pipe dream these days.
cheating already?
This umpire is obviously nowhere in this game.
Umps givings us two strikes now?
Boy, this ump is an utter disaster. He should be fired after this game. It looks like he’s never called a baseball game before.
If Arod cant hit Byrd its over
have the umps been drinking?
This ump must be a Sox fan. Timmons, go F yourself.
wow im starting to think Girardi is a bad manager.
Giambi is struggling and he is still in the 5th hole and puts out a pitcher like Ponson who is 1-5 vs Red Sox
“Hey I hope someone figures out whether Bobby was out on NESN because I wouldn’t want people who wonder to be upset – or something.”
“we may have caught a break there …he might have been safe”
Thanks for the info, felix.
Everyone realizes that the game is being played in Yankee Stadium and not in the psyches of LoHud blog readers, right?
This ump needs to visit the eye doctor. I have no idea what he is seeing
that was a strike.
>>>Is it me or do our opponents seem to come through regularly with 2 outs and RISP?
This is what separates good teams from mediocre teams. Good teams kill the other teams rally attempts. Mediocre teams can’t shut the door. It’s been a long time for us, I forgot too.
On Gameday the Damon pitch showed up in the other batters box.
Arod vs Byrd is like Tiger vs a college golfer
About time
Good hustle Bobby!
YAFREAKINHOO!!!!!
is he a hero now?
woot!
Great hustle by Bobby!
Good thing Abreu wasn’t on second or third. A-Rod would have popped it up.
Unless of course Arod was following along with the comments all day!
CLUUUUTCHHHH!!!
Giambi will homer
the boos making efect
“On Gameday the Damon pitch showed up in the other batters box.”
On TV, that’s more or less where it really was.
That should have tied the game since Damon should have been on base.
now if Giambi can do something it might be time to play the lotto
ok that’s a little better A Rod. Of course that doesn’t help his RISP average. He should pretend no one is ever on 2nd or 3rd when he’s up. Oh and he should pretend he is playing meaningless April games in an opt out year. There must be a hypnotist who can make that happen.
still not enough.
Well that was meaningless………….not a game winner, didn’t put ‘em in the lead.
(Sarcasm)
Nice job Alex
I’m only listening on the radio…was that more good baserunning by Bobby or bad fielding by Bay?
(If it’s the latter, I always knew he sucked in the field!)
gardner i think is in AAA… think only ransom is here
Lets go Yanks!
Thank you Alex! I still believe!
I bet Pete was heartbroken that Arod actually got a hit. Kind of takes away his chance at joking at his failures. Not to mention the Yankees scored which has to hurt him as well
Meanwhile the umps F’d us out of a run. But their jobs will always be safe! No reprecussions for ineptitude, none whatsoever! Disgusting.
blown away by a 79 mph changeup. nice.
maybe if we boo jason he will hit tomorrow… thats a thought
and giambi kills another rally!!! woo 5 hitter!
RISP or not. I’ll take a run wherever they can find one.
Boo Giambi! Least they got a run!
yankees.com shows Gardner as being on the Active Roster.
Giambi cannot became a former Yankee fast enough
Giambino looking good
I really want to see more of Ransom. Giambi is doing nothing.
It’s amazing that only Girardi doesn’t see Giambi’s production (lack of) in that number 5 slot.
replace Giambi with Miranda in the field (can’t be any worse), Matsui in the lineup.
“On Gameday the Damon pitch showed up in the other batters box.â€
On TV, that’s more or less where it really was.
It was so far outside it should have been ball 4 for Damon and ball 1 for Jeter
“Unless of course Arod was following along with the comments all day!”
Of course he would have homered – but he was intimidated by the prospect of breaking the record in 6 years and being booed by the crowd – now where would that have come from?
Alex Rodriguez = MVP (of 1st inning, game 132)
Ill beat everyone to it. Girardi you have a dead man walking in the 5th spot!!!
I dont think Pete dislikes Arod, I think its his job to point out the facts. With some of you its “the Emperor has no clothes”
Look at the results. We have the weakest cleanup hitter with RISP in the entire league.
“It was so far outside it should have been ball 4 for Damon and ball 1 for Jeter”
HAH, I liked that.
we’re ready to call a-rod clutch after a double to put the yanks down by one in the bottom of the first. i remember the dynasty days…so so long ago.
TK, I was just trying to get into his head.
Instant results.
haha nice play Sidney!!
Ponson the gamer!
I’d like to see more Gardner, as well.
LOL! That’s hilarious.
Anyway, nice hustle by Ponson. If he can’t pitch, it’s good he can field.
BTW, Crisp is trash.
hey joe,
you know as much about journalism as you do about baseball. That double didn’t seem too clutch to me (runner on first base) a-rod was lucky abreu didn’t get thrown out. The fact is that the guy is hitting in the low 200′s with risp this season. It’s losers like you that got the yankees into the trouble they’re in and will be in for the next 9 seasons, because they’ll never win a title with a perpetual loser like a-rod on their team. I’d take solid the defense and clutch hits of Scotty B over a-rod and his bloated numbers and whiny attitude any day.
My GREATEST frustration in all of this is how the umpires can really affect the outcoming of a game and there is no accountability. People sometimes pooh pooh that stuff, but does everyone remember the last regular season game when Colorado and the Padres were playing for the wild card and the home plate umpire got the call wrong in the 19th inning and Colorado won the game by a run? What about stuff like that?
It’s really hideous and bothers me incredibly. So how many games might an ump mess up for any given team where the team actually loses the game – and may lose the season by that number of games?
I think it’s outrageous that balls and strikes can’t be contested. They have carte blance to suck or worse to work out their disdain for certain players or teams. Anyone remember the kindness Angel Hernandez has always paid to the Yankees?
Arods hit was fine. We just need more of them. Tonight they all should hit this guy, Byrd is a lame duck, with nothing much left
“I dont think Pete dislikes Arod, I think its his job to point out the facts. With some of you its “the Emperor has no clothes—
Clearly you are new here – where we cherish illogical hatred for Pete (psst – did you know he roots for the Patriots? You KNOW what that means)
Please mindlessly attack our host – you’ll just blend in.
* 13th inning, not 19th
Hey Nick
It was a lame block of the Plate in my opinion and u should at least agree it was pretty close and… u might have had better replay if you are looking at something other than NESN from satelite and their crappy bias annoucers
Oh boy, I wonder which umpire is going to lose his job for that 1-2-3 inning Ponson just threw.
Ponson can get the bottom of the Sux order. He should talk to Pettitte.
Sir Sidney comes through this inning. Who here is watching this on NESN?
good inning by Sid
Great play Sir Sid (to nail Coco)
Nice inning all around. That’s what I’m talkin about. This dude plays hard. Let’s see the lineup reciprocate now!
“lame duck”
how soon we forget last seasons early playoff exit via byrd.
Much better Ponson.
Back to work bats
“Anyway, nice hustle by Ponson. If he can’t pitch, it’s good he can field.”
Maybe we can have him play some first.
umpiring all season and all around the league has been poor this year. The idea I thought was to have ONE singular consistent strike zone, where a strike is a strike regardless of who is umping. It appears that each ump has his own arbitrary strike zone, and thats dumb
“Ponson the gamer!”
I have it on the authority of HOF (sort of) Peter F. Gammons that the only gamers (Fenwayacus Gameritus) are indigenous to the Bay State. If you only worked for ESPN you would understand this – or be subject to re-education camp!
Brandon I know you removed the Santana HR count by can you bring it back love that Ryan Howard crushed one and gave the phils the lead
“what are you going to write now…maybe actual professional journalism?”
Dont get your hopes up
felix, I wasn’t really asking about the camera angles on NESN, what I meant was, to my naked eye it looked very close and perhaps even a bad call, so I totally agree it was close — perhaps a call rewarding the fact that the ball got there first and it LOOKED like Pudge had the plate blocked off. The ump’s view appeared to be blocked.
So what I was wondering was whether they were talking about it more on NESN, since the call went against the Sox and the Yankee announcers don’t seem to have questioned it at all.
Of course we could use a few bad/questionable calls — they’re supposed to even out, right?
Lame duck comment, he “was” good last year, hes awful this year. Keep in mind he got released by Cleveland. Just like Petitte was considered a premier pitcher last year, he is very average this year
“I dont think Pete dislikes Arod, I think its his job to point out the facts. With some of you its “the Emperor has no clothes†”
What? There is an obvious slant in Pete’s coverage of A-Rod on this blog. And since its this blog I figure he gets more slack and its cool. I don’t mind it at all but I do mind him trying to act as if he doesn’t have that bias and he’s just giving the facts. The treatment of the fans like their kool-aid sipping fools bother me. Not really the slant he has against A-Rod.
I was working in Philly today and listened to a little sports talk. Philly fans were pumped after that win last night
Trisha – I remember that NLCS WC game and thought there wasn’t enough evidence Holliday was safe, to actually call him safe. Although I believe SD would have lost anyway, I also think the umps were prone to giving the Cinderella story Rockies the call because MLB wanted to see them in the playoffs rather than the boring Padres, for better ratings. I think close calls by umps are often decided by what MLB wants, for money/ratings reasons. I bet we will see the Cubs get the close calls this PS, for example.
And Angel Hernandez definitely has a hard on for the Yankees. He is the one who ejected Joba last year w/no warnings right?
“Everyone realizes that the game is being played in Yankee Stadium and not in the psyches of LoHud blog readers, right?”
it’s kind of a modern platonic allegory of the cave thing.
from wikepedia:
“This, however, is the only reality that they know, even though they are seeing merely shadows of objects. They are thus conditioned to judge the quality of one another by their skill in quickly naming the shapes and dislike those who play poorly.”
Santana just gave up another HR
randy, I didn’t expect you to take it to such a dark place.
ugh
let’s just hope Byrd isnt this lucky the 2nd time through the lineup.
1 hit in 2 innings against Byrd who gives up more hits than IP, another great showing from our offense! Boy, is this team good!
Five more days before rosters can be expanded and see the likes of Giambi out of the lineup.
Cy Byrd
that “was good” lame duck is 5-1 over his last five starts giving up 12 runs over that span. wish we had a couple more lame ducks. all we got is broken prospects.
uhg….5-1 over last six starts.
I don’t know what to think about Cano. Sometimes, I think I’d swap him in a minute if I could get someone like Matt Kemp for him. Other times, I think he could be the AL verion of Chase Utley. He seems to have that much talent. It’s just whether he can use it consistently.
I hope the Yanks make the right decision here in the off-season. I honestly don’t know what to think, and I know I’m not alone in that.
randy is citing Plato
Pete is channeling Homer with his Athens/Sparta references
Why do I feel like this is a good ole Greek Tragedy where everyone ends up dead or worse? Cue Sophocles!
They do hold them accountable to some degree by rating their performances for slots in the playoffs.
THOSE are the statisitcs I’d love to see, but as far as I know they’re for internal use only. The Umpires Union and Baseball in general probably wouldn’t want such statistics taking center stage; not too many people want officiating to be placed under the microscope because at a certain level, it ruins the game for businessmen and consumers alike.
That said, there’s a reason why instant-replay was virtually shoved down the throats of the Umpires Union. There’s a fine line between “tradition” and self-interested “job-security”.
Are you guys serious with all this complaining about the home plate umpire? I’m starting to think it’s a lot of people just posting it over and over again in a effort to make everyone here look like complete idiots.
“Santana just gave up another HR”
Santana who?
Giambi needs to hit 8th or 9th in this lineup….PERIOD…keeping him in the 5th spot would be like keeping MELKY in the 5th spot….STUPID…STUPID…STUPID…and it is about time that SOMEBODY GETS IN GIRARDI’S FACE and says….DUDE, why are you so FLIPPIN’ STUPID ?….What possible good does it do your team to have someone that is batting UNDER .250 with an avg of .234 for July and .212 for August and a FREAKIN’ .143 over the last 7 days, with a MIGHTY .205 with RISP and has 80 Strikeouts for the year in your FREAKIN’ FIVE HOLE ????….Why would you do that…you BOZO ?….PETE…ask him that,,,word for word….we’ll all pitch in for the ER bill….
That was quite a tailing pitch to Ortiz by Ponson.
The problem with Cano is he just doesn’t seem to care. Unfortunately the Yankees have a lot of guys that are great on paper but they just don’t have the heart to do what it takes to win.
“August 27th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
“what are you going to write now…maybe actual professional journalism?â€
Dont get your hopes up”
Give it a rest will ya. If you want Pete’s professional journalism, read the links to his articles. I’m sure he will appreciate it. This is a blog and he gets to include his opinion just like the rest of us. He is committed to his blog like no other Yank beat writer and he does a really great job keeping us informed.
rodney,
You are right, his double was luck. So were his 500+ other home runs, 3 MVP’s and his gold gloves. Also, you can point to his .254 RISP this year if you want, I choose to look at his OVER .300 career with RISP.
Why point to the Wang getting hurt, Cano AND Cabrera doing nothing all year, getting zero production out of the catcher all year, etc…it makes more sense to blame the guy with some of the best offensive numbers in the game THIS year as well as for his career.
Frustrated cause a guy you count on to drive in runs has struggles this year with RISP? Yes. But the irrational hatred for a guy having a very good year is really wierd. Pete no doubt feeds that hatred on his blog (it’s his blog, he has that right I suppose.)
““Santana just gave up another HRâ€
Santana who?”
Brandon used to keep track of that when he was a Yankee fan.
“Why do I feel like this is a good ole Greek Tragedy where everyone ends up dead or worse? Cue Sophocles!”
No one here gets out alive, TK.
You might want to commence eye-gouging before they show a closeup of Youk’s face again.
Right after he says Ponson goes after hitters, Ponson throws 3 straight balls and walks Ortiz. Great!
Youkilis is one ugly guy
Arod is back! Last night was rock bottom and now blah blah blah blah rising tide lifst all ships blah blah.
By that I mean, it’s not over yet.
wow i’ll concede that was a nice play.
Nicely turned DP.
Pukelis looks like he’s a redneck.
Ouch,
Youkilis almost over-extended himself with that last stride to first.
Good play by A-rod. Love to see Byrd past 60 pitches before the 4th.
Terry #1 – imo that is nowhere near enough accountability if the worst that can happen is that they don’t get to ump in the playoffs. Chances are they may not get to ump anyway with a limited number of spots open. They still are gonna get their normal paycheck every year during the season, and that’s what needs to be threatened/at stake to get them to make the proper calls.
“““Santana just gave up another HRâ€
Santana who?â€
Brandon used to keep track of that when he was a Yankee fan.”
He also used to keep jeters dp’s till Arod took his place.
See you fellas later. Got a kids football to go to. More heart. More effert.
Go Yankees!!
“randy, I didn’t expect you to take it to such a dark place.”
nick in sf-
dark? they had afire in there.
check out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave
if that isn’t an apt description of the blog i don’t know what is.
That was nice.
Get some runs
You have something against Rednecks, punk?
Nick
SHHH. Lowered expectations lead to less whining.
“You might want to commence eye-gouging before they show a closeup of Youk’s face again.”
Mona Lisa – he ain’t!
To stay w/ the Greek theme – the face that sank 1000 ships.
Pudge is as much an auto out as Molina.
{You have something against Rednecks, punk?}
Darn straight! I got something against Boston players too.
I don’t care that Farnsworth is off the team. It was really a trade for bad player for bad player, but is there any real difference between Moeller and Pudge?
Pedroia is 5 foot 3.
TK,
Last night kasey was quoting TS Elliot. This team is driving everyone nuts.
Shall we stick with our lame 80′s songs? Youtube’s such a wonderful thing. Been “educating” the kiddies. Last night was “True”, some Heart, and the Thompson Twins.
Can Pudge at least take a few pitches before he gets out?
I like that Derek Jeter. He’s got something. What is it? Oh yes. An Edge.
“is there any real difference between Moeller and Pudge?”
Well, Moeller seemed to bring out the best in Rasner (don’t laugh) and was probably has fewer needle scars. But most likely won’t get serious HOF consideration. There may be other differences as well.
Cy Byrd is really dealing tonight.
wow, this is all kinds of frustrating.
This is really just like the playoffs. What a freaking joke, this offense.
Nick- I was not talking career wise, just both of their short times with the Yanks this season. Maybe we should chip in and buy Pudge some roids.
Hello Party People!! I’ve come to spread positivity to the masses of Yankee fans who are down in the dumps about our team’s dire straits.
Is it working?
it must be nice to have a right fielder who can judge the ball
Pudge hitting s***? Shocking.
“Shall we stick with our lame 80’s songs? Youtube’s such a wonderful thing. Been “educating†the kiddies. Last night was “Trueâ€, some Heart, and the Thompson Twins.”
Doctor! Doctor!
Here’s some more so great/ungreat stuff – Men At Work – the kids need to know to stay away from vegamite sandwiches!
I was too disgusted to stick around for Kasey’s posts I guess. TS Eliot is a good way to go, although Dylan Thomas would have been another option.
“Shall we stick with our lame 80’s songs? ”
Hey, don’t talk about the 80′s, mel! That’s my fave decade for music. Without the 80′s, we wouldn’t have Madonna or Prince or Duran Duran. Long live the 80′s!!!
“You might want to commence eye-gouging before they show a closeup of Youk’s face again.â€
The same warning should officially be attatched to Jason Bay’s face. Yuck!
Arod made a good throw? As terrible as he is in all phases of the game, it had to be luck. Also, why didn’t he just catch that ball that fell in the gap in left center? Scott Brosious would have made that play.
OK, in their short time with the Yanks, advantage Moeller?
They didn’t call him Chad the Hit Man for nothing.
come on Sidney
“Here’s some more so great/ungreat stuff – Men At Work – the kids need to know to stay away from vegamite sandwiches!”
“I cant get to sleep
I think about the implications
Of diving in too deep
And possibly the complications
Especially at night
I worry over situations
I know will be alright
Perahaps its just my imagination
Day after day it reappears
Night after night my heartbeat, shows the fear
Ghosts appear and fade away”
Great song! This could be the Yankees’ anthem for this year.
who looks more relaxed while playing, nady or arod??? its a tough call.
“They didn’t call him Chad the Hit Man for nothing.”
Um – they didn’t call him chad the hit man.
I think you have him confused with Tommy Hearns. (given the physical resemblance I can understand it)
I would rather see Moeller out there instead of Pudge
**runs away in fear**
“Youkilis is one ugly guy”
his swing is getting so weird he looks like he’s doing a caricature of himself. and what is with that top hand sliding up and down to the top of the bat stuff? i don’t think i want to know.
80′s? The Specials?
“This town… is nothing but a Ghost Town…”
Okay, Sidney has gotten his act together. We need some frackin’ offense!!!
Nice job by Sir Sid.
Laura –
Great job – try ‘Its a mistake’!
Long live the 80s indeed….but Iron Maiden, Guns N Roses, Metallica and Gwar for me more so than Madonna or especially Spandau Ballet, lol. Oh, and of course Bon Jovi. Jersey represent!
Nice job pitching around the double there.
I guess with the season over, arod’s all relaxed.
Correction of previous post: It was I, not they, who called him Chad the Hit Man, and it was, in fact, for nothing.
I apologize for any confusion I may have caused.
“Youkilis is one ugly guyâ€
He’s a wuss and a whinner. That’s the worst part of Joba being on the DL; he can’t throw at that fool from the bench.
Pete we got it you hate Joe and Alex.
Hey, I may not make it on the cover of GQ, but I have nothing on your boy Shelly Duncan.
That boy fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down!
Will someone please step up? I realize Byrd is an imposing sight, but let’s pretend it’s Madrigal, or someone we’ve hit.
“Don’t think that we don’t know
Don’t think that we’re not trying
Don’t think we move too slow
It’s no use after crying
Saying
It’s a mistake, it’s a mistake
It’s a mistake, it’s a mistake”
Yep, this is the Yankee’s anthem for sure.
UPDATE, 7:54 p.m.: Tyler Kepner did a little fact-finding to debunk Joe Girardi’s pre-game statement about A-Rod.
That’s nice, but I really don’t care
Way to bounce back from yesterday’s crap, A-Rod!!!!
Jason. Bunt.
I’m just SURE it’s my tagline that’s doing it…
Nice job Alex.
Let’s go Jason.
Nick, that throw in the first by Abreu to the plate and had Bay by plenty and Rodriguez had the plate blocked. The only doubt about the play was whether Rodriguez would hold onto the ball, which, seems to be why the umpire delayed his call.
“UPDATE, 7:54 p.m.: Tyler Kepner did a little fact-finding to debunk Joe Girardi’s pre-game statement about A-Rod.”
Okay, what is so stupid about these reporters ragging on Girardi over this is that if Girardi had ripped A-Rod to shreds, they would have been complaining about that. He does what he’s supposed to do (which is stand up for your players) and they still complain. They just don’t like the guy.
Alex kaballah’d that ball to deep left! Where was this guy last night?
He’s just keeps on pushing my love over the borderline (borderline!)
We should have spent some time motivating Giambi too, it worked for Arod.
Let’s go Jason!!!
Hey now.. vegemite sandwiches ROCK.
Fine, he got Arod over. Fine.
What do they want Joe to say? Alex has stunk all year in the clutch so last night wasn’t unexpected? It is one thing for the fans to say it. The manger will never say it. Well maybe if it was the other Joe.
I mean really, i don’t get the picking apart every word Joe says.
Hey, Jason made a productive out!
It’s a miracle, it’s a miracle!
It’s a miracle, it’s a miracle!
It’s a miracle, it’s a miracle!
And dreams are made out of emotion.
Tyler Kepner also made the same “Arod is playing like it’s October” joke in his NYT write-up today.
For those of you scoring at home.
Laura, I really don’t get the hate. I met Joe G a few years ago, he was very nice. He is a passionate guy. I really don’t understand why they don’t like it. He wears his emotions on his sleeve. He was getting into it with a fan over a salary cap. It was interesting to listen to.
If you really want to analyze Pete’s alleged disdain for Arod, how about the fact that he cut Arod’s double to a single in his remarks above???
He he he.
“UPDATE, 7:54 p.m.: Tyler Kepner did a little fact-finding to debunk Joe Girardi’s pre-game statement about A-Rod.â€
Pete’s really digging to prove the Yanks and Arod wrong.
I guess this Joe doesn’t kiss the reporters butts like Joe T did.
I mean really, i don’t get the picking apart every word Joe says.
jennifer-I don’t get it either. Girardi could say the Earth is round and someone in the media will try and debunk that
Beginning of Tyler’s article:
Joe Girardi is an unapologetic optimist. But sometimes, his words defy explanation. Here is what Girardi said on Wednesday about Alex Rodriguez:
“He’s hit in the clutch his WHOLE CAREER,†Girardi said. “He’s due, and you expect him to do it again.â€
Now, Alex Rodriguez has done a lot in his career, that’s for sure. He’s driven in 1,581 runs, so he’s coming through quite a bit. He’s a wonderful player who cares very much. But to say that he’s hit in the clutch his whole career seems out of touch with the reality that pains so many Yankees fans.
In FIVE YEARS AS A YANKEE, Rodriguez is hitting .287 with runners in scoring position. Not bad. But he has hit .311 in all other situations. And the postseason has been a litany of letdown.
Tyler, his career is longer than five years as a Yankee.
“UPDATE, 7:54 p.m.: Tyler Kepner did a little fact-finding to debunk Joe Girardi’s pre-game statement about A-Rod.â€
Selective de-bunking?
Girardi said career. Tyler only gave Yankee numbers.
Joe,
Arod is by far the most attacked guy in here. He’s also the biggest boo target at the stadium. I don’t think Pete has anything to do with either.
Pete gets his little jabs in here and there but they’re mostly humor filled and not mean spirited. I for one appreciate them even if I don’t agree with all of them. I like Arod but sometimes he is frustrating to watch and I have no issue with Pete’s comments. I appreciate every one of them. He’s got a responsibility to his paper to remain objective but not in here. Here he gets creative license and he calls it like he sees it. If people in here are too small minded to form their own opinion and they need to rely on Pete to make an opinion about somebody so prolific like Arod, then they really need to get off the computer and crack a book. Sorry I just think Pete deserves more credit as he works hard for the sake of our entertainment.
That was very very sad. We cannot afford to leave runners in scoring postion, especially runners at third with less than two out…
trisha
good catch.
Hughes is looking great tonight.. 4IP 4H 1ER 1BB 5K
Kevin
“Hey now.. vegemite sandwiches ROCK.
”
Angel – Would you care to share with the class the exact flavor of this?
I’m an outsider in regards to officiating.
The closest connection I have is that some of my associates have been scorers and referees for events like the recently concluded Empire-State games.
With that in mind, umpires rely on the “honor” system to patrol themselves for the most part…
and in my opinion, that’s a strength, not a liability.
Turning the officiating process inside out bureaucraticly, politically and even technologically would turn baseball into a nightmare.
Umpiring in MLB has its own sense of professional reputation. We’re not talking about journalists, lawyers or politicians here even though there are elements of those kinds of characters in every profession. For that reason, I’m a little more skeptical about the aforementioned characters getting involved to “rectify” baseball officiating because that’s exactly what would end up happening.
Look at the steroids issue and be afraid.
Be VERY afraid.
“Professional courtesy”: it’s how empathetic people in serious/respected disciplines regard one another, particularly when they reside in differing fields.
I regard the umpireing crews in Major League Baseball in the same respect and I think “blue” deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Jennifer
Bingo
All Nady had to do was put the ball in play.
Oh, X-Man! Even though you struck out, I want you to know that I’m crazy for you!
Touch me once and you’ll know its true.
I never wanted anyone like this.
It’s all brand new, you’ll feel it in my kiss.
I’m crazy for you!
Clearly pitching around Matsui so they can get the next scrub. Now watch Cano ground out to second on the first pitch.
Methinks Byrd pitched around Sui on purpose. Now hopefully Robby will make him pay.
PLEASE Robby…
Memo to self: slam Nady tomorrow before the game. For motivational purposes.
Cano’s reaction to that last swing had some spunk.
“Darn-it!”
“Hey now.. vegemite sandwiches ROCK.
â€
Angel – Would you care to share with the class the exact flavor of this?
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Salty… very salty – and excellent with cheese or on toast.
jennifer-I don’t get it either. Girardi could say the Earth is round and someone in the media will try and debunk that
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Well now that you say that…
from Nasa.
LOL jennifer
And yes, I’m aware that it LOOKS like grease, but its really an acquired taste.. lol, what can I say?
Hardee har har har har!
YOU GO ROBBY!!!!!!
Poor little Dusty.
Didn’t need the Homer Cano, a single’ll do.
Go Yankees!
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you clutch
That foul ball that Cano hit had to be one of the sweetest swings I’ve ever seen. It looked like he barely put anything into it and the ball went SO far.
Robbie!
I just screamed “Yes!!!” so loudly I freaked out my dog.
The tension gets to all of us.
Like I said, I don’t know what to do about Robbie. He’ll look awful for parts of the season, then have an AB like that.
That is MY BOY ROBBIE coming through for the Yanks!!!!!
Keep the talented guy GD it!!!!
wtg Robbie!
“That foul ball that Cano hit had to be one of the sweetest swings I’ve ever seen. It looked like he barely put anything into it and the ball went SO far.”
Me too, DFox.
holy moly, did he just get a hit there…
I’m going to miss Pudge. He was a great Yankee.
Pudge now 10-50 as a Yank with 1 homer and 1 rbi. Maybe he will get that 2nd rbi in September.
Hey, a run thing. Nice.
Pudge-thumbs down
Laura,
They’re lame now, but that was the best time.
I would’ve walked Cano to get to I-rod. Just saying.
Please, get Molina in there, he has a better chance of getting a hit than Pudge. Pudge needs to be booed. Now let’s pray the Sox don’t take the lead back.
What actually was the point of spending any time debunking what Girardi said?
Its not like he was arguing if there is or isn’t a God, or if the world will be destroyed by a meteor in the year 2012 or anything.
Why is giambi still batting 5th on this team?
Why is pudge still getting playing time?
Why is giambi swinging 3-1?
nice job by cano wagging his tongue and pointing to the dugout after the single like he won the game. biggest punk in baseball…
Coco Crisp looks like one of the members of Milli Vanilli.
is it kosher to point out that “enemy” a-rod had a hand in both runs so far?
“Me too, DFox.”
I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed it. We’ll remember swings like that when Cano hits .400 one season. Yep, he’ll do it one year.
Terry #1
“I’m a little more skeptical about the aforementioned characters getting involved to “rectify†baseball officiating because that’s exactly what would end up happening.”
To get back to this – I think you have a point – but the fact that we can all see the triangulated track of the ball in instant replay essentially screams ‘the emperor has no clothes’. The other night against the O’s the ump had a wide strike zone and Jim Palmer predicted that Mariano would exploit it.
The last strike to win the game was 4 inches off the plate.
The umps need to be shamed into calling the ‘rulebook’ strikezone. Not their personal interpretation.
I’ll admit it: I hate the Coco
No Rishi, they don’t count unless they put the Yankees ahead.
I enjoy Ty Kepner. But again, he chooses to use only the stats that will make his argument. Girardi said over his career, not over his Yankee career.
Girardi has been who he is from the start of the season, so why is anyone surprised anymore?
Got to love Pedroia!!!!!!!!!
wow… cant believe that 7:54 pm update by Pete.. shot after shot at Joe G… its deplorable and quite classless..
he is trying to say positive things.. what is he supposed to do move him to 8th spot?? yeah that worked well with Joe Green Tea…
darn man… sometimes Pete is more childish than these trolls here..
Why isnt Mussina pitching tonight on his normal day?
Thanks, Angel…I didn’t know the rules
Okay, if Giambi is looking down on Pedroia, there is no way that he’s 5’9″. Giambi isn’t that tall.
“Salty… very salty – and excellent with cheese or on toast.”
Angel –
So you’ve been to the land Down under?
Sidney, please hold the score here…
Not that it wasn’t obvious, but here comes the Sox taking the lead again. Is there any pitcher in our team who can keep the other team scoreless after we score a run?
wow – that was a quick 2 hits there…and now Ortiz??
kevin,
Nardi caught something in his delivery that might have been affecting his command. Let’s hope they fixed it. Boy’s head must be spinning with all the tinkering they did.
for those who care…Phil Hughes has looked real good for Scranton. Had a little trouble with lefties early on, but then started mixing up his change. Has been cruising ever since. I havent seen the cutter yet but the fastball is looking pretty good, around 92-93. But the curve ball has been lethal.
Ummm, bullpen?
pudge is as good of a catcher as macky sasser right now
“Got to love Pedroia!!!!!!!!!”
If you are ‘oriented’ like youk that is
strikes!! throw them!!
“Ummm, bullpen?”
No because then we might actually win.
I need a drink so bad.
STRIKES!!!
this is scary
My God, can we get one real pitcher on this team?
Also, hope the Yankees’ offense is taking notes, Sox pitcher gives up a run they come out swinging and get more runs to help their pitcher.
BULLPEN – now – please – this is getting out of hand
Abomination
Walking in a run-bad
Outs man!
I just want this season over already.
find the freaking strike zone – and then HIT IT
Ponson’s not getting blown out but this two-out rally is hard to watch.
Why do you get an RBI for a walk with the bases loaded, but not for driving in a run from a double play?
If a pitcher has no control, you didn’t bat a run in. But if you bat the ball and a run comes in from a double play, that is literally a run batted in.
I think it’s stupid.
Laura, Giambi is 6ft 4in or 6ft5in.
i ask again: why isnt mussina pitching tonight?
Awww, now Ponson can’t get the win. There’s no justice.
Good Edwar or Bad Edwar?
Just give it up Sydney so the team can finish mailing in the season.
How can we go to the playoffs with a bum like Ponson in the rotation, realistically????
now that the seasons over, the yankees should bring up hughes, let’s see how the kid is doing and get ready for next year.
Brian August 27th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
for those who care…Phil Hughes has looked real good for Scranton. Had a little trouble with lefties early on, but then started mixing up his change. Has been cruising ever since. I havent seen the cutter yet but the fastball is looking pretty good, around 92-93. But the curve ball has been lethal.
Thanks Brian. Think he can stop by the stadium? Like now?
Why was Ponson left in after he loaded the bases? Anyone?
The more you think about it, it’s really pathetic that the Yankees thought they could get in the playoffs, or even beat a playoff team by troting out the likes of Ponson, Pavano, Rasner and other scrubs. It’s amazing what a 200 million dollars can’t buy.
Good odds Edwar gives up a three run shot here.
Why do people think I “hate” Girardi and A-Rod? Why would I hate them or anybody else? This is my job. Athletes and/or managers go through the game, we interview them and then I write my story and my blog and go home. They come, they go, they get traded, fired or released and life goes on.
My only goal is to report accurate information on the team and pass that on to you in an interesting way. I’m not the Associated Press and I’m not covering the Supreme Court. It’s a baseball game.
I realize fans are fans and that’s great. I’m a baseball fan, too. But have some perspective. I hate a baseball player? Why in the world would I waste energy doing that?
Sure, I’d like Girardi to be more honest and forthcoming with his opinions. But ultimately that’s his problem, not mine. I can only write down what he says, I can’t compel him what to say.
This is my job, period. I like my job an awful lot. I certainly don’t hate anybody.
Nice hole Ponson dug for us.
Good Edwar.
I guess Girardi just didn’t want to offend Sidney by pulling him with the bases loaded? What is going on???
how quickly did the inning happen? was no one warming/warmed up?
All I keep thinking is that they year after the Red Sox melted then won the whole thing – something to use for hope
Good job on starting Ponson over Hughes. Real smart people we have running this team.
I lived there for the first 28 years of my life, TK.
I wonder how many official LoHud “Yankees are dead” declarations there will be tonight?
“How can we go to the playoffs with a bum like Ponson in the rotation…???”
He’s our #3!
“My only goal is to report accurate information”
Well Pete you did fall a little short with mentioning Kepner’s inaccurate debunking of Joe’s statement.
I would have loved Edwar 1-2 hitters earlier
Byrd looking like Greg Maddux circa 1995 again, these Yankees never fail to disappoint.
Enough with the foul balls, lol.
A hit. Yay!
alrighty – a stolen base would be a good way to prevent the GIDP
Need to get on base Jeter…
Any way, any how.
My dog got attacked by a yellow jacket. Those things are from the 5th circle of hell. >:(
The trade for the guy on the mound tonight could have been blocked nice move Cash.
You know what would make this season more bearable? Knowing that we have many minor leaguers pushing their way onto next years team to give us hope for the future. Unfortunately the minor leagues are bareen of position prospects except for A Jax and Montero. Maybe some of the pitchers will help, but the truth is 2009 doesn’t look very promising either.
“I lived there for the first 28 years of my life, TK.”
That is great – one of my favorite classmates from B-School was from Sydney. The guy was incredibly funny. Glad to have you on board – I share a lot of your opinions on blog matters.
Redemption time A-Rod.
I can’t understand why we aren’t tattoing this guy.
Really sad, Abreu was up there expecting the FB, got the FB and swung through. An 85mph FB, that is.
Or not. Why do I get sucked into believing time and time again.
Fast-forward to postgame interviews: “Hey, what can you say, Byrd was really nasty. I mean he was dealing! Sometimes you just have to tip your cap to the opponent. But tomorrow we’ll come out with a positive attitude.”
Well said Peter
I was as frustrated as anyone last night with Reynolds, but I was savaging Reynolds for his personal performance, not the entire umpiring profession. Umpires, like players, have bad days and are criticized accordingly.
That didn’t mean I wanted to “fix” the system because I know EVERY system has a certain error rate (there’s a difference between an “error” and a “mistake”). Is the error unmanageable?
I don’t think so.
The game was great even before officiating was updated. Yes, the game needed a “tinker” but definitely not the extreme “overhaul” that some suggested.
It’s on the screen for everyone to see…and you don’t hear umpires talking about their own “personal” strike zone anymore.
I don’t believe there needs to be any other accountability, because the umpires can hold themselves accountable. In engineering, medicine and military matters, the most effective pressure actually occurs internally; personal honor and professional reputation. The rest: journalists, lawyers and politicians usually only exascerbate something they try to fix. Heck, they’re “professions” that I don’t trust to police themselves, so I DEFINITELY don’t trust them police others.
The system isn’t “broken”.
And I don’t want to see it “fixed”.
lol.
OK, I will start it. The Yankees are dead, done, finished!!! Pack it up and start rebuiling like they did in the early 90′s. I have had enough of these old men trying to play a young man’s game
“I can’t understand why we aren’t tattoing this guy.”
Really? Is this the first game you watch this season? This team is just not very good, that’s it.
I think it’s time the Met Life Countdown was changed from “Regular Season Games Remaining” to “Games Remaining.”
In addition to the sweeping changes that are sure to come in the offseason, is there any way we can also get rid of Sterling and Waldman? Is there a more annoying set of broadcasters in all of baseball? (besides Buck and McCarver of course)
“Unfortunately the minor leagues are bareen of position prospects except for A Jax and Montero. Maybe some of the pitchers will help, but the truth is 2009 doesn’t look very promising either.”
Jeff –
You enjoyed the Hughes/Kennedy experience so much that you want more turnover from youth in the line-up? I think there will be a lot of moves in the off-season – Abreu, Damon or Matsui, Giambi. But I don’t expect a minor-leaguer to take a spot in the lineup next year.
Frankly – I hope AJax proves me wrong – that would be great.
Thats where I’m from too, TK – it must be something in the water there.
“Or not. Why do I get sucked into believing time and time again.”
Probably the same reason I go online expecting it will be the day people can talk rationally and with baseball sense about the game.
we cant hit a medicore pitcher….hmmmm what else is new
NOTHING
This team couldn’t tattoo the letter “i” on J-Lo’s buttocks.
Nice inning Ramirez.
“DubP Los Angeles
August 27th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
In addition to the sweeping changes that are sure to come in the offseason, is there any way we can also get rid of Sterling and Waldman? Is there a more annoying set of broadcasters in all of baseball? (besides Buck and McCarver of course)”
Yes, and being in LA you should know…
Steve Physioc and Rex Hudler. Don’t get me started… especially on that smarmy Physioc.
FYI: President Clinton is on the stage, about to address the DNC. His wife is reported to be a Yankee fan.
god love Edwar…can the offense DO SOMETHING now
i have a feeling if cano gets to see bryd again he will send one 20 rows deep in the upper deck.
That could be, Lara. Probability, though, is not in your favor.
We need to move that right field pole about 20 feet in.
Lined deep to right! Fair it’s gone! It is… foul.
Thanks, John Sterling.
Another deep foul ball. If only we had real hitters..
Nicely done by Edwar.
“FYI: President Clinton is on the stage, about to address the DNC. His wife is reported to be a Yankee fan.”
Nick in SF – don’t be an ‘Alger Hiss’ for that Cubs fan – you and I both know where she is coming from.
at this point….giambi does not even work walks, he is just an automatic out
it would be one thing if he wasn’t hitting but he was still working walks, but he just flat out is not
Like I moron I flipped over just in time to see Bill gushing over Hillary and her campaign. She didn’t win next! And I flip back over to see Jason get out. I can’t catch a break.
Lined deep to right! Fair it’s gone! It is… foul.
Thanks, John Sterling.
He’s the only announcer that can get it up and down in the same sequence
a baserunner would be good
Yeah, sure.
And Giuliani is a Red Sox fan…
anyone else NOT surprised the Yankees are laying down for Paul Byrd. TOTALLY SAW THAT COMING.
anyone else NOT surprised the Yankees are laying down for Paul Byrd. TOTALLY SAW THAT COMING.
the fact that we cannot hit paul byrd hard means that there has to be something physically wrong with our hitters
X-man having a good night
Giambi should try batting right handed, can’t be any worse than it is now.
damn, if only the sox had kept manny ramirez.
Paul Byrd is CY Young.
Cy Byrd kicking the Yankees butts
You all keep dissing Byrd. How is he pitching any differently than Mussina?
They both depend on location because they both only have a mid 80 fastball.
TK, I was just being a Whittaker Chambers.
Witness.
I was just listening to Rick Sutcliffe for 15 seconds and I fear that I came away stupider. Wait – that isn’t even a word! aAAAAAAAHHH!
Two measly runs.
Anyway, you can’t put your pen in the position we have lately.
Also, I am thinking that the season may be too far out of reach to make any difference. I have to agree that we don’t seem to have the horses to get us to the postseason, let alone through the postseason.
HOWEVER – if Pavano ends up getting the job done the way he ended up the other night…
Nah. For a million and one reasons this team just doesn’t have it. Not blaming anyone. I’m sure they’re doing their best, mnaybe even pressing. But I think they’re on overdrive with being exhausted from pressing.
our pittsburg outfielder is better than your pittsburg outfielder!
“TK, I was just being a Whittaker Chambers.
Witness.”
Thank you Mr. Tanenhaus!
Marte time
I am waiting for the post-game with big time sense of urgency. I cant wait for the following:
Girardi- “Well sometimes these games happen, where your guys try and play a tough game. However when you face a pitcher of this caliber who can keep you off balance for 6-7 innings its tough to come back. I feel my guys gave 110% tonight.”
Jeter- “Byrd was good tonight. We weren’t able to get into that groove and score some runs, thats it. There is still a month left we can put it together.”
Giambi- “I thought I got a few pitches to hit but I didn’t come through, sometimes you just gotta tip your cap.”
Damon- “As you saw Alex did a good job tonight, I knew that rib-eye he had last night would lead him to a good game. Sometimes your best isn’t enough we were caught in between all-night you gotta tip that cap to the opposing pitcher.”
Same team, different day.
great so now marte can come in and walk just about everyone
Let’s score some runs here. Walk off tonight and huge lopsided victory orgy tomorrow so we can at least enjoy watching the rest of the f’ing season on tv when nothing is on.
TK, I was just being a Whittaker Chambers.
Witness.â€
Thank you Mr. Tanenhaus!”
LOL, funny.
I guess that makes me Alger Hiss.
“TK, I was just being a Whittaker Chambers.”
wasn’t he the guy in the pumpkin patch that led richard nixon to the “secret microfilm” that launched nixon’s career?
Does Marte and his motion remind anyone else of a lefty El Duque?
You all keep dissing Byrd. How is he pitching any differently than Mussina?
They both depend on location because they both only have a mid 80 fastball.
Umm CAREER NUMBERS? Hello?! Phil Hughes pitches like Roger Clemens, that doesn’t mean he’s any good.
Anyone that thinks that we can throw Ponson, Mussina, Pavano, Rasner & this year’s version of Andy out there for the last 5 games of August and expect ANY momentum AT ALL heading into September is required to have a first name that starts with t-r-i-s-h.
why can’t i stop watching.i am addicted to suffering
there’s something very wrong with this team. Byrd did the same last October.
Just something wrong – an attitude, lack of desire, who knows.
One thing I do know is that I would release Giambi and give his at-bats to ransom. Why the heck not?
the long island yankee,
I totally agree like I am a masochist or something. I just can’t give up on them even if they have.
Hmmm, I wasn’t really trying to get a history discussion going during this crucial game, just tip off anyone who might have been interested in seeing the former President (who’s still speaking, btw) and well as give a wink to the phony Yankee fan he’s married to.
“TK, I was just being a Whittaker Chambers.â€
wasn’t he the guy in the pumpkin patch that led richard nixon to the “secret microfilm†that launched nixon’s career?”
Read the book randy – it is a great read.
BTW – they allocated 10 minutes for the former POTUS – what is the over/under 45 minutes?
Good job Marte.
Hello Offense? Can they stop being offensive and tie this game up?
“there’s something very wrong with this team. Byrd did the same last October.
Just something wrong – an attitude, lack of desire, who knows.
One thing I do know is that I would release Giambi and give his at-bats to ransom. Why the heck not?”
I couldn’t agree more, I’m sure at least a few contenders could use the stache. Gotta like Ransom and his 2 HR’s in 2 at bats.
It’s even quiet in here. This year has worn us all out. Seems like the bloggers are the only ones grinding on each and every at bat. I miss the tough grinding ABs we used to have that chewed up opposing pitchers.
All things considered, the executive management (as well as the media) publicly conceded this season last week. Say what you like, but they played the “lowering expectations” game so that a prospective failure by the Yankees wouldn’t hurt fan interest too much this season.
There were other multifaceted considerations converging but that was a major one.
Watching the game and DNC simultaneously… it actually makes me feel better about the potential for this country in contrast to the yank’s situation.
Joe Girardi will need to take a long hard look over the course of the offseaon at his approach to managing this team. Some changes are in order with his game strategy and player moves.
lots of cheering…it sounds like the yanks are winning
OK…we are giving you a chance now….with Manny Delcarmen pitching!
Post Game
Girardi- “Well sometimes these games happen, where your guys try and play a tough game. However when you face a pitcher of this caliber who can keep you off balance for 6-7 innings its tough to come back. I feel my guys gave 110% tonight.â€
Jeter- “Byrd was really good tonight. We didn’t have good swings off him but …we can’t make excuses. Every game is important we just got come out tomorrow and put up a W.â€
Giambi- “We just missed our pitches, point is time is running out and we just got to put up some W.â€
Damon- “As you saw Alex did a good job tonight, That rib-eye he had to start off the game really helped us get back into the game, but we just gotta find a way to put up some runs, I think there is not enough time to waste and we’re dig—ging or ourselves into too big a hole.â€
Arod- “I got some work in but we just couldn’t put up enough runs, I need to have better at bats and this is our playoffs each game is so precious and we can’t let games like this go to waste”.
I’m going to set a few yellow jackets loose in the Yankee dugout. It if has the same effect on them that it had on my dog, then they’ll be quite energized and raring to go when all is said and done.
Giambi is a waste… he piling up numbers and walks to earn himself another contract with another team. At this point, he’s pretty useless (as if he wasn’t all season long).
I totally agree Terry. It felt like Steinbrenner started making excuses too early.
hughes line: 6.1 6h 2er 3bb 7so
Michael Kay is way too dramatic for me.. Just say it the Yanks are done
Delcarmen-please do something against him
Michael Kay is way too dramatic for me.. Just say it the Yanks are done
It’s like listening to a girl.
“lots of cheering…it sounds like the yanks are winning”
Don’t be silly dude. That is the sound of the nation in our building. A nation consisting of 90 % ESPN created propaganda fans who only became Sux fans as of October 2004, and 10% actual Boston fans who suffered from 1919-2003.
Runs would be really helpful here.
Might as well bring Hughes up… even if he gets his brains beat in, id rather see him lose games than Ponson or Rasner.
can we dfa irod. he does nothing!!!!!
Next borderline pitch called against yanks should set Girardi off. He needs to show this team some fire (and maybe a pulse). Maybe getting tossed can help!?
“hughes line: 6.1 6h 2er 3bb 7so”
He still needs to spend the rest of the season with SWB. It is good for his development, and his command.
Incredible slump from Pudge. Wow.
Good point LLime!
Ron/Brandon =
What is Kay saying (I’m watching DNC right now)?
I’ve always thought he was too much of a fan. And I don’t mean a “homer” broadcaster – I mean a Yankees fan – one who suffers the same angst we all do. Just in a more annoying and public way.
I’m actually finding it a bit distasteful how much Yankee Stadium sounds like it’s Fenway Park.
Please somebody make Pudge go away. Or give him some more steroids.
Francisco Cervelli >>> Pudge (right now) Anybody wanna bet ?
PUDGE LOL
NOT LIKE I DIDNT CALL THAT ONE
HES DONE!!!!
what an awful swing from damomn. its like he didnt care.
Pudge was suppose to help us? Right?
Macky Sasser > Pudge
Hands down
I agree bring Hughes up for his next start. Sidney Ponson and Darrell Rasner are not the future of this team. Time to find out what Hughes can do here now healthy.
Ack, that looked a bit like ball 4.
jeezus – I’ve see more life from a squashed bug.
Thats how far this franchise has fallen… Red Sox fans are taking over the stadium. We have no pride anymore, the aura is gone. We have found a new low.
It’s like MSG full of Lakers fan chanting “MVP” for Kobe while the Knicks are losing by 20.
There is no way we get a compensation pick for Pudge because we can’t offer him arbitration. Of course he’d have to take it if we did and we don’t need him around for another year.
Maybe they thought they were trading for Carlton Fisk, not Ivan Rodriguez.
Really sad that the Sox will sweep the last Yanks x Sox series in Yankee Stadium.
“Might as well bring Hughes up… even if he gets his brains beat in, id rather see him lose games than Ponson or Rasner.”
I’d rather see Phil when hes ready to pitch at the major league level. Building back arm-strength is very strenuous and I think that kind of development is best suited for the minors not here on the big stage.
three outs from getting papelPants ? who cares ? the guy is totally beatable and wears women’s underwear and dances like a nancy boy….he doesn’t scare us !
My left nut >> Pudge
“what an awful swing from damomn. its like he didnt care.”
You’re right – the fact he 2 HR’s last night means he was ‘just padding his stats’ and tonight he revealed himself – he doesn’t even want to compete.
[you sir - are a MORON]
Byrd and Delcarmen are beasts man. No offense can score more than 2 runs off that tandem.
I think its over.This team is definitely less than the sum of its parts.No heart.
Doreen:
Kay is just going through the number, hoping fans will still watch the YES network and listen to his radio show. I guess he is doing his job, but on the YES network he really needs to tell it like it is.
If we only got 2 runs in 6 innings against Byrd, we can reasonably expect a 5 hit shutout tomorrow from Lester.
Can we assume that Jorge will be able to go every day next season?
That’s just as good as an rbi
“Francisco Cervelli >>> Pudge (right now) Anybody wanna bet ?”
I concur. Cervelli is the catcher of the future.
Al you’d have a bit more credibility without that ridiculous tag line. Brady’s worst nightmare is getting hitched and not getting to bed hotties like Giselle any more.
Outs Veras
What an outfielding clinic there by Damon and Bobby.
I give him props for running into the wall.
Thanks Ron.
oh please…oh please….not near the wall!!!
not many knowledgeable fans on here to get the macky sasser reference…both the team and the fans are lost
bye bye abreu you sack of crap
Abreu still has his fear of the wall. This team is an embarrassment, I almost wish the season ended on Sept. 1st so I didn’t have to see this team perform this badly anymore…
our offense stinks that is the bottom line..
Byrd is a joke, they cannot hit anyone…
bye to giambi, abreu and the rest of the softies, this team needs an edge….
Jesus Christ. That ball was in the air FOREVER. It hit mid wall where about a 13 year old could have caught it. Pathetic pathetic pathetic.
When you learn how to spell Damon, then you have permission to talk about him.
Believe. Its not over till the fat ladyy sings
matsui-damon-arod-nady all over 300.jeter-abreu over 290,irod over 280.cano around 270.AND THIS TEAM CAN”Y PUT TOGETHER A RALLY .this is a joke.
Come on. That’s not a catch a major league outfielder should make?
if only the sox had kept manny ramirez… bay is a yankee killer!!!
We got the Mackey Sasser reference, so much so that we know how his name is spelled. It was a good reference, though.
Great play there by Abreu and Damon.
Who was it that said the Red Sox would take 2 out of 3 …Oh yeh that was me. Now we’d just be lucky to atleast block the sweep.
3 of the next 4 games started by: Lester, Burnett, Doc Halladay. Heck I’d sign up for 1 win.
and on a lighter note…
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSjvTyGG45k
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That just might be the final nail in the coffin
that bout wrap up the season guys unless a big comeback off papel its over
Sasser was good. Except that he could not return the ball to the pitcher. Other than that he was great.
Oh man. Either Abreu has to catch that ball, or Damon should have called Abreu off. You absolutely have to catch that ball.
“Jesus Christ. That ball was in the air FOREVER. It hit mid wall where about a 13 year old could have caught it. Pathetic pathetic pathetic.”
I’m am in total agreement with this – b’bye bobay! give me 2 picks in the draft! (not name cole
)
This season has been wrapped up for weeks. Just disgusting. Boston is paying us back for that Boston Massacre last year.
Bunch of overpaid hacks this year.
Actually, I visited an A’s blog called athleticsnation.com and some of their fans were watching YES. They were also alternating between their local broadcasters.
They were EXCORTIATING their own announcers (as well as their own radio broadcasters) for being “yankee fans”. They were also half-quipping/half-serious that Kay (and I think Flaherty) were the most even-handed announcers they were listening to.
forgot the e…good call!!!
Well, I guess that pretty much setles this year… Have a great off season everyone and I will see you all here next year.
forgot the e in mackey…good call!
MK does come across as a bit of a fanboy at times. He gets that whiny undertone to his commentary at times – where he sounds like a lot of posters on this blog, rather than an objective commentator.
Jason Bay > Manny
I’m convinced that I could go out there with some of my fellow LoHud posters playing the field, and throw a quality start against this team. Maybe I’d throw underhand just for shiggles.
This team is….not good.
season over
damon and abreu may be gone who wouldd you bring in
sasser was great?? did i just read that?
White flags for sale at http://www.whiteflags.com
That was actually useful, the Abrue/wall thing had been dormant for a while. The blog needed it.
Just keep sitting there Girardi. I have to admit he’s been a disappointment. I know there’s been injuries but I really thought he’d be a difference maker. I was wrong.
waive pudge tomorrow
waste of space
3-1 counts for the yankee hitters and they have weak swings and get beat by 80 mph fastballs from byrd. i never though soft tossing righties would beat the yankes. its usually hard throwing righties and soft tossing lefties.
where are all the pudge supporters from a few weeks ago?
no where to be found
Rays win – Twins win – Yanks fall even further behind.
The Yanks have the best ditch digging shovels in baseball.
big joe – I feel the same way — Girardi has brought nothing to this team. They can point to injuries, but the guys on the field have no fire, no discipline, and his game-time decisions are an absolute joke.
Veras is just going to finish us off isn’t he?
How bad does this stink. It makes me very sad and slightly depressed to sit through this. Way to close out the stadium with your rivals guys.
closed door meeting anyone?
Come on guys!!!! Let’s keep it at 5 if we want a shot here!!
two signings (of many) that cashman should be hung for:
damon
giambi
Terry #! -
Oh, don’t get me wrong – I think the Yankee broadcasters are the antithesis of homers – they ARE even-handed. I tried to distinguish what I was trying to say. Let me try again.
Michael Kay is a Yankee fan, so although while the game is going on he is very fair in his calls – he does not shy away from calling out a Yankee if need be, and all those things- he is at heart a fan, and there are times, mostly in post-game spots, that the angst he feels when the Yankees are not doing well comes out. He’s as frustrated as the rest of us. It never (or mostly never) affects his game calling.
If this wasn’t the last season I wonder if people would go to Yanks games in September.
Watch for the Yankee brass to start talking about how the 2006 Red Sox missed the playoffs and then won the WS the next year.
this team is pathetic
So where is that highly touted Yankee bullpen?
veras is SUCKING GIRARDI!! Hello???!? Get off your @SS and take him out – jeezus christ…!
Girardi is a dumbass. He needs to go along with Giambi, Abreu, Pettitte and the rest of the jokes.
What a joke. What a way to finish the last series with the Sox in the stadium.
I have a feeling we may get swept.
Can Moose go 7+ tomorrow?
Does it matter?
big Joe:
Girardi should have came out in the 2nd and got tossed. The umps have squeezed Yanks pitchers this series. Girardi has no fire under his belly.
He can’t manage the vets. He needs a new team. Get rid of all them.. NO need for these overpriced players.
Good job girardi – three f’in runs later… christ… who hired this dumb***
Zooboy — Yeah…I mean the Sox and Rays have had injuries too but the guys they field are actually clawing and scratching for wins. We have no heart on this squad. I thought if nothing else Joe G. would ensure we played with heart and passion. I don’t see it.
Hank is at the game tonight right? I am sure he will be yapping later
im so sick of being right bout this team that i’m applying for cashmans job
Well that inning just sealed Cashman’s fate and this 2008 Yankees team.
waiver them all.giambi and damon and matsui.hope for takers.resign abreu to dh.
Or as Angel so eloquently stated, he has that whiny undertone faintly reminiscent of what sometimes goes on here.
“closed door meeting anyone?”
With Nicholson in the Stadium, Girardi should get him to give a “You can’t handle the truth” speech to light a fire under them.
And another RBI for that hitting machine Coco Crisp!
Pudge isn’t going anywhere. After Tuesday they can bring up Moeller and he doesn’t have to play at all.
Right now all he’s worth is his Group B free agency compensation.
“where are all the pudge supporters from a few weeks ago?
no where to be found”
I wasn’t aware that there were any Pudge supporters, just the people who hated Farnsy were happy to see him go. Pudge serves one purpose IMO, he keeps Molina healthy and fresh. Keep in mind Posada won’t be able to catch 150 games next year and Molina is the best defensive catcher in the league.
This has the making for a Yankee comeback.
A Yankee comeback where we turn this season around.
Believe.
terrible – pathetic
get rid of abreu, along with giambi & pettitte
a RF is no good if he has below average defense
sad part is mgmt won’t call up any youngsters because they won’t publically admit defeat
what a SAD team
Yup Ron…its all so horrible. I agree about the 2nd inning or so. After the Damon called strike 3 would have been about right.
If it were possible to punch someone through the tv. . . Kay is so bad. His Jack Nicholson impression “you can’t handle the truth” has been the highlight of the broadcast so far.
Yea close door meeting 7 back with a month to go. The players would probably laugh in Girardi’s face.
This has the making for a Yankee comeback.
A Yankee comeback where we turn this season around.
Believe.
LOL YEAH OKAY. And Hell will freeze over.
a) we wont get compensation for pudge unless we offer him arbitration and he declines, if i have that right
b) there were plenty of pudge supporters including that clown brandon but of course hes in hiding
““closed door meeting anyone?â€
With Nicholson in the Stadium, Girardi should get him to give a “You can’t handle the truth†speech to light a fire under them.”
Jack should pull the guys aside in the tunnel and ask Jeter “Have you ever served in a forward area!”
bphill – you have the makings of an alcoholic or moron. you pick which. Have you been watching this?
At this point, I’m too tired to complain about blown calls.
11-2 Bosox.
forget it.
and thats all she worte folks.
abreu hits the wall like a flopping fish out of water
veras gives up like a beeech
bring on the @$$-kicking… this sorry team deserves it
Who ends up managing in NY longer, GI Joe or Randolph?
Ya…..that little guy is just no good is he???
why is everyone crying for a closed door meeting? gimme a break. that never really works anyway, the Yankees’ season was done before this series even started.
Give Joe G. a break man he signed with this team but these are Torre’s guys. and aging, you have to give the man credit for what he created in the bullpen this year, yes they took there lumps but Joe continued to give these kids like Veras, Robertson, Bruney, Ramirez a shot and they turned out very well…that bullpen is very young, with more young bullpen arms in the minors. This team needs to make changes no doubt about it, but lets not hammer Joe G. for this year. Give him time he’s great with youth. Oh yeah Dave Eiland deserves some love. And as I type this the midget hits a grand slam. Good timing on my part.
goodbye 2008~ goodbye yankee stadium, i apologize for this terrible team that we have been forced to watch in your final time with us.
Does Girardi have the guts to pull the starters against the Sox?
Turn out the lights, the party’s over.
bphill – that came out bad. I was trying to joke that there is no way…not trying to belittle you. I’m just upset. sorry.
LOL
LOL
LOL
Wheres George when you need him?
Good old days are over my friends…1/2 empty yankee stadium is back!!
now this f’n little nat hit a salami see ya Yanks
do not get rid of abreu…
done.
see you all in spring training. i’ve suffered enough.
game over
Ah the final insult, 5’4 inch Dustin Pedroia with the grand salami.
So now that the season is over can you think about maybe possibly considering moving Giambi out of the 5 hole? Just humor us.
*RIP 2008 YANKEES*
Someone needs to put a picture of what Papelbon just did in every Yankee locker.
Just play with some urgency tomorrow, PLEASE.
…and another basehit” way to put it michael
just put in mo what does it matter
LOL. $209 million. Money well spent Cashmoney. Money well spent.
“It’s going to be interesting to see what these final 30 games are like.”….”interesting” is NOT the word, “sickening” is more like it. But you were close, Pete.
Arod….were you watching Pedroia with the bases loaded….that is how it is done.
I want to jump out the third floor window.
throw at youk for the crowd
HA HA HA HA! Pedroia, of all people with the salami. Please Girardi, quit. Just quit and take Giambi, Abreu, Pettitte and the rest of losers with you. Please.
“At this point, I’m too tired to complain about blown calls.”
At this point you’d look like an idiot complaining about blown calls.
The bullpen was bound to blow up. They’ve been way overworked lately.
Big Joe…no worries…I’m just trying to avoid strangling someone…trying to be positive…ovbiously this isn’t happening.
This is just a disgrace to the fans and Yankee Stadium
There are no excuses
A 300000 million dollar payroll and we get this? A bunch of rich fools just wanting to make money. Joe Girardi you suck, sorry. Yankees you suck, sorry.
i guess i was wrong about trisha. i thought she was a real fan. must be watching the dnc. well, last night it was the umpires fault. whose fault is it tonight? go away and never return… polyanna.
Giambi,Pettitte,Robertson,Ponson,Pavano,Betemite,Kennedy,Ivan Rodriguez and Damon got to go.
Can’t wait till these deadweights are gone.
what a pity. I really liked Dave Robertson, he had shown such great promise but now his confidence is gone forever.
I can’t wait for Girardi’s post game BS:
“I believe in my guys” yadda yadda, “We’re still in this thing”, “They just made good pitches” etc.
Gag me with a spoon!
us open here i come
little roddick/santoro anyone??
it really is going to be a weird september. the last season at the stadium with meaningless games. such a shame, the only thing you can hope is this allows us to make the changes we need to make player, coaching and front office wise.
Nick in SF – what did papelbon do?
4th Place Here We Come!
“throw at youk for the crowd”
Typical reaction….
The inning from hell and no relief in sight
I think Robertson is going to need therapy
“see you all in spring training. i’ve suffered enough.”
I’m never leaving watching a train-wreck is almost as fun as watching a good team. I can’t wait to talk hot stove and football with you guys.
Clarity is a good thing.
Blow it up. And frankly, I would start with the manager.
Bobby V. in ’09.
“throw at youk for the crowd”
The one posting here or the one in Yankee Stadium?
pedroia broken ankle in 11th inning! youkilis with yeast infection out for season! it can happen!
Gag me with a spoon! ?????
Wow…that’s an oldie but a baddie. you don’t really still say that do you?
simone – kiss my ass.
“I want to jump out the third floor window.”
don’t do it.
it’ll just hurt like hell.
cashman could survive the team being bad, but i don’t think he’ll survive it being embarrassing .
this is embarrassing.
“what did papelbon do?”
Posed with outstretched arms in the bullpen after the grand slam.
“Well that inning just sealed Cashman’s fate and this 2008 Yankees team.”
Just another pointless point by our new house Sawx fan. Cashman is responible for Bobby’s wall-o-phobia? Ridiculous.
“i guess i was wrong about trisha. i thought she was a real fan. must be watching the dnc. well, last night it was the umpires fault. whose fault is it tonight? go away and never return… polyanna.”
YAWN!
“Bobby V. in ‘09.”
hey finally something to laugh at tonight, besides this team and girardis’ managing skills
Did you see that picture of Papelbon holding his arms open? Man I’d love to hit a line drive between his beady little eyes.
well i guess we can now look to 2009… who is the first to go?
OOOHHH a brawl… that works! Except we’ll need to call in Farnsy because these wimps would get their butts kicked in that too. But hey at least some of these bums would get suspended and we’d have to call up some kids. I like it….Joe G…Throw at Youk.
how about we start using the word “implode” to describe
i wish papelbon ever had to come to bat, that outstretched pose deserves a drilling
giambi will go for his weird superstitions and phobias of throwing the damn ball. abreu stays depending on the rest of his season….
first to go will be Giambi and doubt they resign Pettitte
This game humbles you when you don’t play team ball, the Yankees in 2008 have been humbeled.
Look on the bright side. Down by 9 runs there is no pressure, so look for an Arod homer this inning!
“it really is going to be a weird september. the last season at the stadium with meaningless games. such a shame, the only thing you can hope is this allows us to make the changes we need to make player, coaching and front office wise.”
The voice of reason. I agree the 4th place finish might be a wake up call indeed.
“simone – kiss my ass.”
Nice trish – way to take the high road.
now we know how boston felt when we swept them last yr and 2 yrs ago when we took 5 games from them.. this is the worst feeling i ever had as a yankee fan,
trisha,
For your own sanity,
Don’t feed the trolls
Can we trade Girardi for Bowa? Girardi and Ian Kennedy for Bowa?
How about Larry Bowa in 2009. I mean he’d have gotten thrown out of this series 4 times in two games. Plus Cano would be better.
guys heres a good paragraph on the yankee season http://yanksgameday.blogspot.com/
well that will do it with this season…..at least i can now look forward to going to my last game at the current stadium, that should be fun
They better get the fat lady ready for this weekend with Halladay and Burnett pitching. How pathetic and embarrassing…
“Ya…..that little guy is just no good is he???”
Are you talking about PEDroida or that other little guy? Seriously – you are creeping us out!
Can ESPN switch to the mets game? I’d like to watch the Phillies rally.
Im taking bets, percentage arod hits a homerun this inning?
Papelbon basically made this pose but with his impression of a hard stare:
http://tinyurl.com/5oo3ca
I apologize and actually tried to stop it from posting.
I guess my frustration got the best of me.
mariano rivera jr for manager. maybe he has some rivera super powers..a-rod will hit in the clutch to not hurt mini mo’s feelings
Can Al Lieter be our manager?? He seems to know stuff that Joe Girardi fails to do.
toy with the lineup
call someone up.
Can Al Lieter be our manager?? He seems to know stuff that Joe Girardi fails to do.
toy with the lineup
call someone up.
Well, I have been reading from a distance but clearly all the crap I have taken for being so negative at times about these Yankees seems well deserved.
For the faithful who pounded me nightly and other, it is time to concede what we have all been saying, this team sucks. It is not a good, was never a good team, and has emphatically announced to the rest of the league, the Yankees are no longer a force.
Girardi has done a decent job but with the talent he has greatly mis-managed more than not. Injuries played a part but as I have said over and over again he has no connection or control with this team and has displayed more a rookie manager than a manager with one season under his belt.
As for the overpaid lazy bags of crap, they deserve what they get. They have quit on this season and never had the fire they needed to win games even when the team was done.
It will good to see Abreu, Damon, Pettitte, Giambi, to name a few, no longer in pinstripes. it is time to weather a long storm while the farm system picks it up. As for the others, ARod, Jeter, Cano, Posada, and others, they either need to step up or retire. ARod needs to seriously think about whether he can continue under the team concept or whether he prefers to be a hero and focal point. Jeter needs to concede when he is hurt and consider what is best for the team. His range at SS is no longer what it was. Cano and others need to decide whether they want to be Yankees or just overpaid wastes of space – if so, there are 27 other teams that will take them.
Fair well 2008 and Yankee stadium, it has been a fun and great ride, but now onto new seasons and hopefully a return to greatness instead of being mired in mediocrity.
oh nvm i guess arods got a date
My off-season plan -
1. Sign Giambi to a short 2 yr/$30 million doller extension. Still a great hitter, good clubhouse guy, and i’d rather sign him to a short term deal while Ransom/Duncan develop instead of signing Teixiera.
2. Re-sign Andy and let Mussina walk for picks. Sign Andy to another 1 yr/$16 million deal.
3. Re-Sign Abreu to a 4 yr/$62 million doller deal like Damon got. Still a clutch player and a good defender. Good speed too.
4. Sign Ty Wiggington for the bench.
What is the point of optioning Robertson now rosters get expanded sunday anyway it’s not like it makes a sifference at this point
i think WE yankee fans was spoiled by Torre and him getting us to the playoffs year after year.. now we get this bum Joe barley has us over .500 we getting our tail handed to us, like we are the nationals.. this sucks worst than anything
Robertson has a very good baa with no one on but when pitching from the stretch is bad!!
How does the Sox get 11 runs and not so much as 1 hitter was even brushed back? Isn’t that on Girardi to call something like that or is it the individual pitcher? That Roberts kid needs to develop a mean streak. He can’t just let everyone tee off on him like he does. Needs to make them uncomfortable out there.
I really don’t like SJ44, but I’m really hoping he’s not at the game tonight like he was last night. I wouldn’t wish something like that on my worst enemy.
“don’t do it.
it’ll just hurt like hell.”
Haha, OK, but actually, no joking, I happen to be in a 3 story building.
aj- that is a joke right?
they can’t score you cannot win if you cannot score.
let’s read the posts of numerous morons spout there nonsense and hysteria.
when your starters go less then 5 innings you lose most games.. Veras has been real good this year he gets a pass from me.
Our high powered offense they get no pass, another big game from them.. Pudge looks like Molina or that may be a insult to Molina, they are soft, and they do not do the little things.
Cano thinks talent alone will rule the day, he is a FOOL. THink that 5 ft 7 bald guy is a better ballplayer then Cano and yes he is less talented just much smarter, sad to see.. What is even worse to see then the Yanks look like this is the pathetic posts of hysterical spoiled fools…
11-2 ballgame.
by all means, Alex – swing at that first pitch!
every team has these years. the yankees were long overdue. the torre era spoiled everyone. they’ll bounce back. probably next year.
“1. Sign Giambi to a short 2 yr/$30 million doller extension. Still a great hitter, good clubhouse guy, and i’d rather sign him to a short term deal while Ransom/Duncan develop instead of signing Teixiera.”
statements like this scare me.
I wouldn’t mind firing Girardi this off-season but ONLY if he gets replaced with a hardcore manager like Bowa, Showalter etc.
No use in firing him for another softy like Mattingly or Willie.
AJ Yanks
you can’t develop ransom and shelly duncan much more…theyre 32 and 27 I think.
Does it look to you like Nady jogs after every fly ball?
didn’t Hal say he would attend this series?
What is the point of optioning Robertson now rosters get expanded sunday anyway it’s not like it makes a sifference at this point
Might help out Scranton, they’ll be in the playoffs, unlike the big league club.
this post describes the yanks season http://yanksgameday.blogspot.com/
send Robertson to AAA and pitch him from the stretch all the time. He has a loss of velocity and movement when pitching from the stretch! Or, have him do it at the mlb level and destroy his confidence.
“For the faithful who pounded me nightly and other, it is time to concede what we have all been saying, this team sucks. It is not a good, was never a good team, and has emphatically announced to the rest of the league, the Yankees are no longer a force.”
Shut your cakehole.
Honestly, what a serious nerve.
Its over folks. There is no hope. You have to just laugh at how ridiculous it is at this point. But now I hope they hear my plea… LET THE KIDS PLAY. Thats it. No more Sidney Ponson. No more Darell Rasner. No more Chris Britton or Billy Traber. Bring up Hughes and let him start for the rest of the year. I dont care how bad he pitches. Bring up Kennedy and let him start I dont care how much of a douche he is. Bring up Alfredo Aceves and see if he can pitch in the majors. Bring up Mark Melancon and let him set up Mariano if they Yankees can ever win a game again. Bring up JB Cox and see if he can pitch. Let Brett Gardner play center field EVERY SINGLE DAY. Bring up Austin Jackson and let him play when he comes off the dl. See what ya got.
Sign Giambi and Pettitte.These guys are good but they are always injuried and we need to get rid of these HGH guys.Who are not clutch.
Sad that it’s August and the Yankees are basically done.
is it me or does britton look like the hamburglar??
Whiff -
“As for the overpaid lazy bags of crap, they deserve what they get. ”
Not to be too literal – but this sentence is a total clusterf(((. If they are overpaid, they don’t deserve what they get. If they are lazy they don’t.
And Cano had a go-ahead hit in this game.
Other than the above – you’re doing great girl. Just keep on posting your ‘knowledge’ and we’ll listen.
trade kennedy for lou. its happened one before. lol.
Right now, I would love to fire Girardi, but thats just cause he is the easiest guy to blame.
I don’t like how Girardi lies to the media his pants have been on fire for quite some time. Sorry Joe, we know when you lie.
I like Joe, I have faith in him, but it just doesn’t seem like he can handle a team with a 300 million dollar payroll. He heeds to be more commanding in my opinion. Hes the team leader, lets see some leadership qualities.
If he thinks being a tough manager is removing all the junk food from the clubhouse…sorry joe this isn’t little league.
no one into the us open?????
Robertson is not going to be optioned, not when 1. your season is likely over and 2. September call-ups are around the corner.
Angel, what he said is the truth. Whether you want to admit it or not, it’s the truth.
the silver lining to all this losing is that Chris Britton is getting a lot of innings. Only 6 earned runs in his last 4 appearances, what a find!
Pavano 40 mill -
YES!!! He does!!
Dave Robertson – another product of the Yankee hype machine, just like JB Cox. Everything is right down the middle.
Melancon is the only one who is a stud, everyone else is a long man at best.
NESN showed Hal and Hank in their suite several times.
lol
On the bright side – at least we weren’t forced to watch those (“he’s got an edge”) Jeter commercials during this horror show of a game. Insult to injury.
britton deserves more of an opportunity, he is much better than robertson.
You people crack me up. Are you all that blind?
Bobby Meacham’s fingerprints are all over this train wreck. We’re one talented third base coach from contending for the big prize.
“Now it’s 7-2. That should do it. Now they need Mussina to avoid a sweet.”
Moose never avoids a sweet- candy, ice cream, donuts; he likes them all.
look at that a meaniful hr
Congratulations Jason, you are now Arod.
Misery apparently DOES love company. Why you have this need for everyone to admit you were right and join you in your misery, is beyond me. I’m quite capable of holding an opinion contrary to you without insisting you join me in it, aren’t you able to do likewise?
Giambi does own Timlin.
Too bad Giambi can’t face Timlin everyday. Then he would actually hit….
Nahhh this can’t happen….the yankes don’t even know the concept… yet alone 8 runs…
LOL. Giambi hit another HR off Timlin.
What an OPS Giambi has! we should pick up his option! The OPS!
OMG – AJ Yanks has compiled a OED of ignorance –
point 1 was wrong
point 2 was wrong
point 3 was wrong
other than that – he’s really contributing to the team – just ask Joe G
You know, there’s winning 92 games with your new, young manager while falling a little short of the post-season. Your promising young pitching struggles to master the major league game but shows signs of big things to come. Your veteran offense did it’s best to carry the young arms, but it just wasn’t enough as teams further along in the player development pipeline beat you out.
You call THAT a transition year.
What we have seen is something entirely different, and far more disturbing.
Yay! Only, what, 8 more to go.
was that pete a. out in right near giambis homer???
Hank is probably thinking, “I left the horse farm for this?”
LOL. Talk about a meaningless HR. How about 8 more?
pete they’re talking about you!
Michael Kay quoting Pete Abraham, nice Pete.
Hey Michael Kay just gave Pete a mention.
Hank in a suite? That’s a surprise, he’s never at any games.
Hey Pete -
You’re being quoted on YES – Kay reading your column Pettitte on Posada’s importance to the team!
should we keep giambi now?
save these hits for tomorrow!!!!!
And that goes for you too, Nemo.
Way to get a shout-out on YES
Thanks for nothing you meaningless HR hitter that chokes when we really need a hit.(I am talking about Giambi…not A-Rod.
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That homer bought Giambi another 20 games in the 5-hole. Not that it matters anymore.
we have a shot, pudge is getting up this inning!!!!!!!!
Hey Pete you just got the big Michael Kay shout out! Get a fist bump from ol’ big noggin later.
Other than the above – you’re doing great girl. Just keep on posting your ‘knowledge’ and we’ll listen.
Thanks TK, and I mean for last night. Your vote of confidence made it all possible.
PS. size does matter
What did they say?
I’d rather they went quietly, rather than give me false hopes?
Is this the former or the latter.
Actually, it’s too early to hope.
Giambi tied with Derek & Gherig on the all-time HR list. Jeter needs to get to work!
I actually am glad that Hank/Hal are at this game, now they can see what a mess this team really is and can notice the mass of Sox fans in our stadium and the lifeless play of the team.
The Yankees are trying to make sure Arod get another AB so he can get boo’d again
THIS BLOG RULES!
As soon as Kay mentions Pete Abe, BAM BAM BAM, it’s a hit parade!
Take that you deniers of optimism.
I’d love for them to get to Papelbon tonight, even if they don’t win I’d love for them to put some fear into that empty head.
ok who thinks the Yankees will be down 11-10 bases loaded and A Rod up to make the last out?
as much as i hate the bleacher creatures, looks like most of them are still there
Angel, your opinion can be different than his, but it’s wrong. Your opinion can be that this team doesn’t suck, and mine can be that the world is flat.
They’re both wrong.
Yankees Fan – I think this is a transition year. It is when we transition into an old fat lazy team. So Blow it Up.
If Pudge strikes out here….I hateee him.
PUDGE YOU THE MAN
that ended the yankees season
“ok who thinks the Yankees will be down 11-10 bases loaded and A Rod up to make the last out?”
There’s no way Pudge would let that happen.
In all seriousness… This streak was going to eventually… But it should have ended with Torre in the dugout.
I loved Girardi as our catcher. Thought he’d make for a great manager for SOMEBODY. Maybe even the Yankees. But one day. Not this year. Not this team.
Now granted.. Our offense has holes everywhere..But look at the ages of most of our regulars:
Posada – 37 / Pudge – 37 / Molina – 33
Giambi – 37
Jeter – 34
A Rod – 33
Matsui – 34
Damon – 35
Abreu – 34
Cano – 26
This is a veteran team, used to their 68 year old father patting them on the back and assuring them everything is going to be alright. Girardi is like everyone’s 44 year old older brother that you listen to and then walk off mumbling that you probably know better.
What has Girardi brought to this team? When he had those job interviews, what were his selling points? What made anyone stop and say “hey… this is a great fit for the team we currently have put together”????
And I’m not just typing this because it’s 10:23 at night and I’m watching the season officially come to and end with an 11-3 game. I know what Torre’s strong points are. What are Girardi’s?
now they show signs of life????
PUDGE LOL LOL LOL
WAIVE HIM TONIGHT
should have pinch hit Molina.
even worse…Pudge you shoulde be fudge…which is a nice way of saying f u c K
Pudge, dream killer.
Can someone explain why Betemit is still on this team?
Ugly, ugly, ugly.
Ok, so tomorrow we face Lester the Yankee killer.
Followed by Halladay/Brunett over the weekend.
Then a 10 game trip that takes us to 4 cities, including a cross country flight from Tampa to Seattle with no off-day and the dreaded Angels to finish the trip.
Then we come home to face the division leading Rays and Chi Sox.
This could get REAL ugly soon.
of course-Pudge ends the fun
PUDGE LOL LOL LOL
WAIVE HIM TONIGHT
LOL co-sign
“should have pinch hit Molina” boy that’s a new one!
Man Pudge has really stunk it up since he got here — hasn’t hit for squat. Somewhere in Scranton a catcher named Chad is muttering to himself: ” I can do that!”
Are the Yanks playing “Pudge” as a courtesy?? Molina is 100% times better then him. Not that it matters at this point but they need to release him and bring up Moeller. He is pathetic to watch.
This team has become the most expensive joke ever.
Torre is 3 games under .500 and riding a 6 game losing streak after losing to the lowly Nationals, if it makes anyone feel better.
It’s already ugly.
I said this after the last road trip: Ending the season in last place is becoming a very, very, real possibility. I would say 4th is a guarantee.
BRANDON, good to see you
was i right yet???????
WE SUCK..I want to hear what joe says it should be interesting
This is all Melky’s fault!
Wait, they already used Melky as the scapegoat.
The only thing to root for nowadays is Moose’s potential 20 wins but I have a fear that may not happen either.
Man Pudge has really stunk it up since he got here — hasn’t hit for squat. Somewhere in Scranton a catcher named Chad is muttering to himself: †I can do that!â€
Somewhere in Trenton a guy named Cisco is saying F*** that scrub that slid into my shoulder.
Closing Time
“Torre is 3 games under .500 and riding a 6 game losing streak after losing to the lowly Nationals, if it makes anyone feel better.”
Makes me feel better.
Pete,
Make sure you get some quotes from the Steinbros before you leave the stadium.
it is over.this year can only get worse if boston wins it all again wich i don’t think they will unless their pitching get’s hot at the right time,don’t forget cleveland almost beat them last year and boston was better in 2007.the yankees need to keep nady,arod,jeter,mo,posada,wang,joba,cano and get rid of pudge,giambi,damon,matsui,pettitte bring abraeu and moose back for one year contracts but only if they take a big pay cut if not let them go.they need an ace and sabathia should be priority one.sabathia,wang,joba,mussina,hughes or someone else at number 5.pettitte has to go he will only get worse unless he takes 8 million for one year.you have to be solid 1-3 and cc,wang,joba are as good as it get’s.move posada to dh,nady in left or right,get a first baseman,center fielder and a catcher.pettitte/16 million,giambi/22.4 million,abraeu/16 million all the way down the entire lineup is disgusting.pitching,pitching,pitching.that is why boston keeps winning even with all the injuries and changes because their pitching keeps them in every single game.ponson,rasner,kennedy,hughes,pettitte were all terrible this year.to m,any spoiled overpaid players with no heart,man do i miss bernie,oneill,brosus,bowa,torre,mattingly.girardi is in love with these players,too much stress in the clubhouse,a lot of games he didn’t put out the best lineup because of his righty lefty fascination.
Throughout my life as a Yankees fan, I’ve never been so helpless and depressed at this moment. This team is not even playing like a team. They are like dogs without home.
Lester?? We’re scared of Lester?
NO WAY!
We have the Moose pitching tomorrow in what has just become the most important game of the season. Lose, it’s OVER.
Win, we get back our false hope for at least another day.
Plus, by now Moose must be aware that more of his charlity Moose Bars will be sold if he gets to 20 wins.
Root for the Yankees — for the kids.
So many tired millionaires yearning for the white sand beaches and the Carribean October sun.
trisha… its too fat and jello-like…he he he
Before this series started I would have said that the Sox’ best chance for a win would be game 3 with Lester pitching.
I actually would have preferred that the Sox win tonight by a score of something like 4-3, because I wouldn’t be surprised that as a matter of pride you guys will come out firing tomorrow night even if it is against Lester who is a better pitcher than Wakefield and Byrd.
Tommorow is my birthday. Please Yankees, give me a nice gift and get a nice streak going.
Time to start rooting for losses to improve our position in the next draft.
I think I should get wasted w/ alcohol soon.
wow, what a game! we are full of gamers, aren’t we? pathetic!
Even David Cone is saying (just in not so many words) that the season is over.
How nice, i’m allowed to have an opinion even if its wrong.
Tale told by idiots indeed.
You do have to give it to the Redsux with their homegrown talent.
Pedroia(LittleBit a Luck Guy)
Pukalis
DelCarmen
Pappelpoop
Lowrie
Lester
Ellsbury
This team has so much talent the injuries are not an excuse. The have not played to their potential all year. We just need to know if it is a character issue or a we just suck this year. Because Besides Pettitte Jeter Mariano Moose and Nady I do not see any passion or desire to win from anyone. Carl Pavano has more respect from me then cano this season. I am sorry I forgot to mention damon. I think this team needs a major overhaul. I am not saying the talent isn’t there it is. BUT THIS TEAM HAS NO HEART!!!
i remember when i could not wait for the year to start….
“I actually am glad that Hank/Hal are at this game, now they can see what a mess this team really is and can notice the mass of Sox fans in our stadium and the lifeless play of the team.”
Agree completely. I especially hope they realize that fundamentals are important. You can’t just buy your way into a team full of HR machines who can’t play small balls and only play average defense. Also hope they will rethink the ridiculous ticket prices for next year and realize that fans are not spineless pushovers. If you lose, they will leave.
RSM,
They’d botch that. Draft someone without any arms, legs or would say what is baseball? Then Cashman would say Sign that man!
Pathetic = calling yourself Jeter’s Future Wife when you’re more than 13 years old.
*shrug* But it obviously means different things to different people.
For some strange reason after this loss, I’m in the mood to read a blog entry from Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops.
i am the smartest man on this board
which makes me the only candidate for the gm position
you are all invited to my press conference
Anyone read that Humberto Sanchez finally pitched an inning of Baseball the other day…this time it was Tampa High A Ball and not the Gulf Coast League???
Positives from the game -
- Arod broke out and responded to the boos
- Marte looked good
- Britton looked good
- Giambi looks to be waking up
Since the Yankees are a big old mess-WS predictions?
I think we will see a Cubbies/Angels WS. Go Cubbies.
Did Hank release a statement yet?
Hank/Hal couldn’t care less, as long as the seats are filled. If “the Boss” was still healthy and sound, heads would have been rolling already. Season’s over, can’t wait till the magic number comes into play so we can stop hearing Girardi/Jeter/A-rod’s platitudes.
Positives from the game -
- Arod broke out and responded to the boos
- Marte looked good
- Britton looked good
- Giambi looks to be waking up
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Too little, too late.
__________________________________________ = pulse of this team
Im callin it. Official time of death 10:24 pm
Out with a whimper.
UPDATE, 10:23 p.m.: Giambi is 4 for 4 against Timlin this season with three home runs and a double.
They should enter next years HR Derby together.
After seeing him play one game, who would you rather the Yankees get in that trade, Jason Bay or Xavier Nady? They are both the same age, Bay has had a better career so far but it looks like his best years are behind him, Nady seems like he’s just coming into his own. Tough decision, I wonder if the Yankees had the choice, probably did.
I.wish.I.could.stop.watching.
But I can’t.
Exactly. Hank/Hal don’t care about winning, not getting Santana and even allowing a “transition year” exemplified that.
Cashman will convince them that the stadium will be sold out for the next few years because of the novice of the new stadium, so its ok if we have another rebuilding year.
I really don’t think we can keep going back to injuries as an excuse for this season. Sox has had as many if not more injuries as we have. And by the way, Phil Hughes and IPK’s “injuries” don’t count. Even if they were in great physical shape, they were obviously not ready.
I think this team juts never got in synch. It’s funny thinking back to spring training, people kept saying if not for the pitchers to build up their arm strength the offense really only needed 2 weeks of spring training to get the bats going. Well I feel like this offense is still stuck in early March.
“This team has become the most expensive joke ever.”
If the Yankees are a joke, how come none of us are laughing?
is it just me why did girardi play jeter arod and nady tonight wasnt a righty pitching? he should have played ransom betemit and gardner all lefty’s. of course we lost tonight!!!!!!!!!! girardi you idiot why are you playing rightys against a righty pitcher lol!!!!
not sure which is worse
the yankees or their broadcast team
impossible to watch either way
we are not going to make it to the playoffs every year, thats just reality
but i expect that the YANKEES would never go down without a fight, it seems like we gave up a month ago or maybe even 2
Wow this is the most negative postgame I’ve ever heard.
Yes, it’s true, we’re not going to make the playoff every year. But at least play like you want to go to the playoff.
“Bay has had a better career so far but it looks like his best years are behind him”
why would you ever say that?
What are they saying in the postgame(I’m not expecting anything shocking)?
I’m watching the DNC
There isnt any postgame interviews???
Actually, Chad was hitting better for us than Pudge has, by far. He was also a better receiver for the pitchers. It’s a shame they switched horses mid-stream. I don’t think this trade did the Yanks any favors at all. Too much to learn in too short an amount of time for Pudge. Besides, he’s really slow these days without the ‘roids.
Hasn’t gotten to the player interviews yet. In the booth report Flash completely ripped the offense. In a nutshell they all pretty much said the season is done. None of them believe the Yankees can make up the deficit with the games remaining. Pretty depressing stuff overall.
I should add that the booth report pretty much sounded like this blog.
On pace for about 85 wins
YES keeps showing the Papelbon pose. Bet some NY Tab picks it up for the paper tomorrow.
i was out so i couldnt watch tonights game, but from what i read at least people cant blame arod tonight, who is the target of blame for tonights game, the bullpen? the umpires? or how about the overall team?
i just dont get this team, they are fighting for their lives, they are fighting for their dignity, the yankees dont scare anyone anymore, other teams stopped being scared a long time ago.
Gary — Suzyn reported that there were no players to interview except Jetes.
Joe spouting his usual nonsense. “It’s not the end of the world” “It’s not the way you want to start a homestand, but there’s still games tomorrow” “I still believe in this team”. You get the picture.
I gotta give Girardi a ton of credit. Love him or hate him, it has to suck to have to sit with the press after the games he’s had to sit through and watch.
I also love that he refuses to throw in the towel and still believes in the team. And he does. Credit to him.
It doesn’t matter how we feel about what’s happening. They’re into one game at a time mode. What else can they do?
Bay is an all-star player and a continual 30 HR/100 RBI guy. He was brought to hit in the middle of the lineup and they had to give up Manny, Moss, and Hansen to get him.
Nady has been a complementary player who is fundamentally sound and is a 6th-7th hitter on a good team. He is just starting come into his own, but he was seen as a role player. We had to give up Tabata and 3 nobodies to get Nady AND the best lefty specialist in the game.
How is this a discussion? Of Course you want Bay, but we couldn’t get him without giving up higher end prospects. Bay is a #3-4 hitter, Nady is a #5-6 hitter. But hes a perfect fit for our team.
Here’s the off-season agenda.
Fire Girardi…or his coaches..whatever it takes, we need a fiery leader somewher in the clubhouse.
Sign CC Sabathia for whatever it takes. Imagine a CC, Wang, Joba, Mussina, Hughes rotation if they’re all at their best.
Let Pettite go, he’s wildly inconsistent. Look into the minors for some bullpen pitching, like Mark Melancon, and Alfredo Aceves.
Let Pudge go, he sucks. Let Giambi go unless he takes a serious pay cut. And if he does come back, take him out of the freaking 5 hole! I love Abreu’s arm and his bat but he’s dreadful in rightfield…sign him to a short 1 or 2 year deal, if he doesn’t want that let him go. Keep a serious eye on Austin Jackson, Johnny is great with the bat but again horrible in ceneter…and just stop relying on A-rod in the clutch, its just not going to happen anymore.
Interesting stat about the lack of fight in this team reported on the radio postgame. When losing after 4 innings, their record was 8-43 (or 41).
Wow. Doesn’t sound like the Yanks of old.
will this series be called “the new york massacre?”
No doubt, Joe feels worse than any of us and he is going to get the majority of the blame when we don’t make it even though his all-stars are the ones who fail to produce.
Hopefully Cashman gets him a real team next year that has heart and good pitching. It’s incumbent upon him to fix this team.
Gary — Suzyn reported that there were no players to interview except Jetes.
I really don’t care.
yankees, at least play some baseball please…
Girardi-
Not the end of the world but not the way you want to start a homestand…..you run out of days when they put an X next to your name…..It’s not from lack of effort, guys have prepared themselves….you point to tommorow….I believe this team can get it done…..Sometimes you don’t get the results you want…No hole is too deep to climb out of…..These guys have an attitude to win but you gave to execute everyday…
Someone here has got to tow the line. Sometimes…you gotta tip your cap.
On the day that the Yanks are actually eliminated from the play offs is Girardi finally going to admit that the season is over? His I believe in my guys line day after day is getting old. It doesn’t take a genius to know that just because he believes in them doesn’t mean that they are going to hit or pitch. Why can’t he just say you can’t win a game if you can’t hit, pitch or catch a easy fly ball?!! Thanks Abreu who once again thought that the fire on the wall was going to hurt him.
dave,
to be honest it wouldn’t shock me one bit if cashman just walk away because he isin’t up to the challenge of rebuilding this team and doesn’t know where to turn. it is a HUGE task and i don’t envy the guy who has to do it.
just happy to see the pudge supporters admit that his addition changed this entire season
Here comes Girardi again in the postgame. All the usual sound bites:
“It is what it is” check
“Tomorrow is another day” check
“We have a talented team” check
“I believe in this team” check
“We still have more game to pay tomorrow” check
“It’s not the way you want to start but it’s not the end of the world” check
I was a big fan of Joe coming into the manager job but seriously is he a robot on a tape recorder loop?? I understand he can’t say we give up, the season’s over. But how about more sincere comments?
Most LOL of all: “that’s why there are 162 games a year, it’s a long season…”
Joe, news for you, it’s game 132!
i>Hasn’t gotten to the player interviews yet. In the booth report Flash completely ripped the offense. In a nutshell they all pretty much said the season is done. None of them believe the Yankees can make up the deficit with the games remaining. Pretty depressing stuff overall.
Thanks.
What a horrible game. Just when when you think you’ve seen the worse from this team, they have more in store for ya.
haha I love Girardi in the press conferences… he honestly sounds like he is from mars..
SA -
They just finished the Booth Report. Pretty much said how the Yankees really have their work cut out for them, the upcoming road trip is going to be tough, highly improbable but not totally impossible, the plaeyrs have to believe. Bullpen overuse.
Girardi on now -
Not the end of the world, it is what it is you have to move on have another game tomorrow.
When they put an x next to your name, you run out of games.
No distance out of starter having to go to bp
8th inning tough
gotta find a way to win tomorrow
Not from lack of effort, guys are preparing not getting results still have baseball left team is talented opp to win tomorrow you point to tomorrow
i beleive inthis tema, the guys on the fild, believe tehy can get it doen not they way they wanted things to go but you still get up tomorrow and prepare to win tomorrow and contineu
Sometimes you don’t get the results you want
That’s baseball
If you could draw it up on paper, you wouldn’t have to play the games you have to execute
Not where you want to be
No hole is too deep to climb out of You have to prepare execute, can’t look too far ahead or behind only tomroorow game a day at a time
Sidney din’t throw badly wbut didnt’ get enough ground balls
Walks hurt tonight bad situations becasue of walks
Haen’t executed – bottom line – guys prepared but haven’t executed -
Basically he’s saying the yYankees haven’t executed any of the fundamentals at all since the 8 game streak
He insists the gus come in with a good attitude, a wining attitude each day, but they’re nto executing
Put guys in situations to be successful do whatever it takes to win and you have to do different things over the course of a season and he does that every day and will continue
Cone says it’s obvious from the way Girardi looks that he doesn’t know what to do or say anymore
Says the team has no spark, no sense that they can get it done
Brandon,
u buzzed yet? lol
well, i looked into Pete’s praise of Tyler Kepner “debunking” of Girardi. Over his career, here are A-Rod’s RISP #s:
.303 .404 .552
Girardi 1, poor journalists 0.
Sorry for the typos – typing and listening at the same time.
“just happy to see the pudge supporters admit that his addition changed this entire season”
Pudge stinks we get it. However he is not the main reason for this collapse, the guy doesn’t even play everyday.
Joe spouting his usual nonsense. “It’s not the end of the worldâ€
And he is 100% correct. It´s not the end of the world.
It is the end of his teams playoff chances however.
what the f-ck happened to this damn team? only a month ago we were just 3 back in our division and were litertally breathing down bostons back! you cant blame injuries because we had injuries then, we’ve actually added people since then!
i just dont freaken understand. :/
Sidney
I can’t describe how disappointing this is….You don’t win ballgames (pitching) like this….I didn’t do my job today….we need to go game by game now…seasons getting shorter.
Thanks Doreen!
I watch just to laugh to be honest.. is this guy’s head so far up his ass that he can’t admit his team is cement? In all honesty I don’t know if I could morally conjure what Girardi speaks.. it’s unfathomable
As silly as Girardi sounds, what can a manager of a sinking team really say? You can’t admit defeat (even though you know it’s coming) until you’re mathematically out of it.
Doreen,
Damn. You’re good. You typed all of Girardi’s drunkenness.
You have to respect Ponson – he stays, he answers the questions and he does not sugar coat. He said he didn’t do his job and then talked about how good the bullpen has been and how they have had to over use them and you can’t do that.
Cone says it’s obvious from the way Girardi looks that he doesn’t know what to do or say anymore
Oy Vey
In way the way this season played out is a good thing. These players need to learn that you can’t just go on cruise control for half a season, and turn it on magically, and win 95 games every year. They all needed a reality check.
mel -
He did seem drunk- dazed anyway.
Brandon,
u buzzed yet? lol
soon
scorpio,
you can something that registers with the team (not that it will matter) he sounds like a 1st grade parent (my kid is sooo smart, I don’t know why he is such an underperformer like the teacher suggested during our meeting). Come on
Did Girardi say that Sidney and the pen threw the ball extremely well for us tonight?
The A-Rod RISP banter should come to a close already. Yes he has sucked this year with guys on. However that is simply not the case for his entire career. See my 5:49 PM post for factual evidence of my claims.
Jeter
Couldn’t have been any worse the past 2 games…every game is important….come out tomorrow and hopefully play better…lots of people counting us out and we need to prove them wrong…the math becomes impossible when you run out of games….we’re disappointed today but we’ll come back and play tomorrow…we need to perform better than we have the last few games.
BBFan
August 26th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Fearless Prediction
“Yanks will sweep Sox.
Then, Cash will acquire some more cavalry before August 31st to go to the war for WS ”
Fearless and brilliant prediction there fella!
Give that man a candy bar.
Make it a Moose Bar!
Like I said, Girardi sounds like he is from another planet..
“You have to respect Ponson – he stays, he answers the questions and he does not sugar coat. He said he didn’t do his job and then talked about how good the bullpen has been and how they have had to over use them and you can’t do that.”
He has sort of grown on me. Give that guy a drink.
Cone says it’s obvious from the way Girardi looks that he doesn’t know what to do or say anymore
Doreen Thanks that saids it all.
come on people, do you really expect a manager to come out and say the season is over and that they are stinking up the place?
give me the name of a manger who would? please be realistic people, didnt we rip hank/hal (cant remember which) for basically saying this season is lost and that we should look foward to next season??
Jeter -
Coudln’t have beenany worse 1st tow game but we have tcome back to morrow, evrey games’ inm;ortant
Mindselt coming into you have to turn it around today. Lot of people couting out, have to rove them wrong
No answer for what’s wrong
What we’ve done before makes no difference, gota do it now.
Dug a hole, gotta play better.
Disappointed today, come back tomorrow all you can say.
SA -
When he was saying Girardi seemed like he didn’t know what to do or say anymore, I got the feeling he was talking more about what to say after these games than what he needs to do with the team. He talked about what he’s done (really all the things that take place outside of the public eye – talking, pushing cajoling, etc. – how he handles his team) and how he continues to do what’s needed there and will continue.
Doreen,
I feel bad for him. It’s not really his fault. The game was still winnable. Sidney wasn’t as bad as a Pettitte-Reynolds.
I’m glad I was occupied during the carnage.
Doreen,
Dang. Did Jeter get sloshed during or after the game?
pat -
you’re a much better contemporaneous typist that I am!
I agree with Doreen about Ponson. At least he has the courtesy to face the press and speak the truth. He’s a #5 starter, we can’t blame it all on him.
As fans, I know these players are human. I know they can’t win every game. But at least face your fans when you lose and answer questions if you’re going to take in all the cheers when you win.
you gotta have faith:
Seriously? You must be related to him after the bull that just came out of his mouth.. You don’t have to give away your came plan, which at this point would’nt matter anyway, however the stuff he just spewed is pathetic.
I honestly don’t care what Arod hit with RISP before he joined the Yanks.
Girardi feels helpless… nothing he can really do at this point but hope his superstars break out of their coma and start performing.
What a disaster this year has been.
Mel -
Oy! That’s me! But for what it’s worth, these are not comfortable interviews for these guys.
thank you to everyone who posted the qoutes from the post game show, i couldnt bare to watch.
SA -
When he was saying Girardi seemed like he didn’t know what to do or say anymore, I got the feeling he was talking more about what to say after these games than what he needs to do with the team. He talked about what he’s done (really all the things that take place outside of the public eye – talking, pushing cajoling, etc. – how he handles his team) and how he continues to do what’s needed there and will continue.
Oh! I see. I thought he meant towards the team.
Thanks again Doreen!
Well I guess Delgado getting and staying hot may keep them out of the Teixeira auction.
Funny part of this whole series:
These are by no means close games.. we got SPANKED… enough with the optimism.. I don’t get it.. something needs to change INCLUDING the lineup
Sydney Ponson, mediocre borderline #5 pitcher forced to masquerade as a #3, has indeed shown some guts. Vote that man a full non-playoff share.
Girardi just needs to keep his comments based on reality — he honestly sounds delusional at times. That’s not good for his team to hear, either.
“I honestly don’t care what Arod hit with RISP before he joined the Yanks.”
Once again before making another ignorant post, please read my 5:49 post. I implore you please read it and those stats are from his previous 3 seasons in pinstripes, not from Texas or Seattle.
Thank you Wang.. I feel the same way.. he talks like he has no clue what is going on… no clue
“do you really expect a manager to come out and say the season is over and that they are stinking up the place?”
No, of course we don’t. But at least don’t recycle the same cliche again and again every single night. Not only is that insincere, it’s just plain lazy.
god i hope sabathia can be lured to the east coast
double the dodgers’ offer if we have to
Doreen,
Please make Brandon understand that Coney did not imply that Girardi doesn’t know what he’s doing. You know how he gets fixated on something.
Perfect statement.. it is truely just plain lazy.. It will be the same response for the rest of the season.. that’s what pisses me off..
YES showing the Papelbon pose again.
Daily News backpage tomorrow so Papelbon can go off on them again?
I am more than eager to hear fat Mike tomorrow afternoon. Heres my prediction: Fatcessa makes a “Yankees are dead” proclamation within the first five minutes of the program.
Hey Al, you’re not going to believe this, but I’m taking Ty Kepler’s reporting over your own. I know, I know. Hard to believe.
I think the only manager who is willing to call a spade, a f$*%ing spade is Ozzie Guillen.
I want Michael Kay’s job:
lol nope im not related to him, my point is that where the yankees are right now, does it even matter what hes saying at the post game press conference? nothing he can say will tell us anything we didnt already know
“god i hope sabathia can be lured to the east coast
double the dodgers’ offer if we have to”
7 years 350 million should seal it up.
Here is what Girardi should have said in July:
“something needs to change, I don’t know what at this point however this is not working” Is that hard? Does that send a message to the team, without hurting their $20MM feelings.. man i feel sooo sorry for the starting line up
Really, guys? Girardi putting on a false front for the media? Should he throw two young relievers under the bus? Huh? What player would fight for a manager who does that? What planet are you guys on?
How drunk is Gammons right now?
Career RISP stats of a few reputed clutch hitters compared w/A-Rod’s.
A-Rod:
.303 .404 .552
Teixeira:
.324 .444 .624
Pujols;
.311 .524 .567
Manny:
.342 .490 .579
Sheffield:
.312 .431 .552
So A-Rod’s consistent with what good hitters do over a long period w/RISP.
I do think A-Rod’s had periods where he tries too hard and presses; however, the stats show that these periods are well-publicized exceptions, not the rule.
The Red Sox appear to be the better team this year.
1) A rod thinks too much at the plate. As Yogi said you can’t think and hit
2) For God’s sake sit Giambi. Play Cody Ransom
3) Never give Cano a multi- year deal again.
4)This is a good bullpen being torn to shreds by overuse.
5) Bring up Phil , Ian and Chase -we are not playing for this year any more
I will be at the Stadium Friday to see my last game there. I will go back in September to do the Stadium tour.
farnsworth another scoreless inning
trade looks so awful
Well I guess Delgado getting and staying hot may keep them out of the Teixeira auction.
Do you really want to see this in NY ?
Al from BK(Calvin Pace=Tom Brady’s worst nightmare.) August 27th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
I am more than eager to hear fat Mike tomorrow afternoon. Heres my prediction: Fatcessa makes a “Yankees are dead†proclamation within the first five minutes of the program.
He’s off this week. I think Francesa is back next Tuesday
Sabbathia likes fancy, pimped out cribs?
How about giving him the current Yankee stadium and letting him build whatever he wants inside?
“Hey Al, you’re not going to believe this, but I’m taking Ty Kepler’s reporting over your own. I know, I know. Hard to believe.”
Dude are you retarded? What I posted wasn’t my opinion it was facts, Tyler Kepner is a fine journalist but facts are facts.
Doreen
Thanks. But you can spell contemporaneous and I can’t.
you gotta have faith:
It does matter, b/c he reveals nthng to the fans that pay his salary.. The funniest thing is, we already expect him not to say jack to the media however there is always hope he will acutally change the game plan.. Has/Does He? of course not.. way too much work.. get a grip
Sorry, that should be “Girardi putting on a false front hurts the team?” They know the deal, they know who’s individually culpable.
but what you guys are saying is true, he des indeed say the same things over and over and over
Closing time, boys. last call Babe.
“Al from BK(Calvin Pace=Tom Brady’s worst nightmare.) August 27th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
I am more than eager to hear fat Mike tomorrow afternoon. Heres my prediction: Fatcessa makes a “Yankees are dead†proclamation within the first five minutes of the program.
He’s off this week. I think Francesa is back next Tuesday”
Oh Fat Mike and his 3 months paid vacation time. Oh well next Tuesday they will be 15 out no fun in calling that dead.
That’s the biggest problem I have with Girardi.. I don’t expect him to reveal the CIA’s Roswell secrets however, be realistic.. It is frustrating
does anyone think that we can trade for fukudome? he seems like a pateinet hitter that had great speed and is not afaird of walls.
Here’s the thing: HOW do you explain the lack of offense? Seriously? If they could explain it maybe they could fix it. ARod said he was going to go in early today and work with Kevin Long. It appears he did so, and perhaps he hit on something.
Girardi truly IS at a loss about what to do here. He is right. You come to play every day, you prepare, but in the end, it’s whether or not you can execute and they haven’t. It’s not like they don’t know how to, but they’re just not.
And I actually feel bad that each night he has to trot out and answer the same questions without any answers. You’ll notice that he will have an easier time answering the questions with regard to what was right/wrong with a particular pitcher. You can say, “he was hitting his spots tonight,” or “he couldn’t locate his pitches.” it’s not all that easy to pinpoint what exactly a hitter is doing wrong. Or maybe they’re not doing anything wrong, but just not having success. Why? Well, the balls aren’t falling in at the right time. I don’t know if I’ve ever heard Girardi say that the team is pressing, though, and I think the media and fans would accept that as an answer, to some degree anyway.
And what more can you say with a month left? They do have to play the remaining 30 games and they still have to try and win each game. He’s certainly not going to say, well, there’s very little chance for us anymore so whatever happens, happens. Could you imagine if he did. The closest he can come to that is to say until they’re mathematically eliminated, there’s a chance. And technically that’s true.
And what’s a guy like Jeter or even the more forthcoming Damon going to say? The best you’re going to get from them is what they’ve been saying. They’re not going to say, we have such a small chance, we’re gonna play out the string and see what happens.
It’s not satisfying because we all wish we had THE answer. I’m sure it’s even less satisfying for them.
i’d give sabathia $175 million if we have to
guarentee a strong rotation and take it from there
I taped the game and just finished watching it mostly at fast speed, and come up with these conclusions. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
1. Byrd would have been a decent pickup for us.
2. Ponson looked terrified out there and should be waived.
3. Pedroia is better than Cano.
4. We should not resign Giambi, even if he wants to play for free, considering he’s getting 5M buyout anyway.
5. I-Rod Farnsy trade was a wash- one over the hill player for another.
6. The bullpen is not as good as we thought, probably now because they pitch every night from the 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th innings on.
7. Put Abreu thru waivers while his value is highest, and hope to get some prospects back. Yes he can throw but he’s afraid of the wall. Not worth a 1-2 year contract at 14M per.
8. Mussina will not win 20 games, UNLESS, and I know some of you’ll disagree, we should pass him thru waivers, to give him the chance to win 20 with a contending AL team. We can always bring him back as a FA.
9. Marte-On the fence about him for 6M club option for situational pitcher.
10. Need Sabathia and probably one other solid FA pitcher-?Sheets,?Burnett,?Dempster, to hope to contend next year.
Did I miss anything by fast forwarding thru most of the game-booing, etc?
ray (sox fan), you are an eternal optimist when it comes to the Yankees lol. Your team’s lineup looks very balanced, even minus Manny’s lethal bat. I’m hoping that next season, the Yankees will be returning to that kind of diversified offense, which is what they had during the 1996-2001 run.
Unfortunately Doreen,
That is his job.. That is what he is paid to do.. As I have said, he doesn’t need to give away the Yankees strategy (not that anyone would listen), however he needs to break out of this mess we call a lineup.
Al, DUDE, I’ll say it again: I don’t know even know who you are. I’ll continue to go with Kepler’s reporting. You need to move on.
“does anyone think that we can trade for fukudome? he seems like a pateinet hitter that had great speed and is not afaird of walls.”
Why would the Cubbies want to get rid of him then? They would want a haul for Fukudome.
Brandon -
Did you mean did I want to see Delgado hot or did I want to see Teixeira play for the Yankees?
As far as Delgado is concerned, I couldn’t care less. As far as my Teixeira auction comment regarding the Mets – it was non-specific as to the Yankees. Just a general observation.
Oh, Brandon, in trying to type and listen at the same time, I don’t think I made it clear that Cone seemed to be referring to Girardi’s response to the post-game Q&A. There’s just nothing new to say. I didn’t get the impression that Cone was saying the Girardi obviously didn’t know what to do or say with/to his team. Just wanted to clear that up.
“2007 Situational stats for Alex Rodriguez:
Bases empty- .296 AVG, 18 HR, 18 RBI
Runners on- .329 AVG, 36 HR, 138 RBI
RISP- .333 AVG, 18 HR, 98 RBI
RISP w/2 outs- .318 AVG, 12 HR, 46 RBI
Bases Loaded- .500 AVG, 3 HR, 25 RBI
2006 Situational stats for Alex Rodriguez:
Bases empty- .288 AVG, 16 HR, 16 RBI
Runners on- .293 AVG, 19 HR, 105 RBI
RISP- .302 AVG, 10 HR, 85 RBI
RISP w/2 outs- .313 AVG, 4 HR 33 RBI
Bases loaded- .474 AVG, 2 HR, 25 RBI
2005 Situational stats for Alex Rodriguez:
Bases empty- .337 AVG, 27 HR, 27 RBI
Runners on- .305 AVG, 21 HR, 103 RBI
RISP- .290, 9 HR, 77 RBI
RISP w/2 outs- .302 AVG, 5 HR, 38 RBI
Bases loaded- .438 AVG, 1 HR, 20 RBI”
Just re-posting this for those who care about facts.
“he reveals nthng to the fans that pay his salary”
The ticket sales from about 3 games covers Girardi’s salary so if you weren’t at those 3 games, he doesn’t have to reveal anything to you.
Yankee Trader,
First of all, it was definitely a game to fast-forward through.
Secondly, I agree with most of your points, especially #3, but I think you could apply it more generally to the players on the Sox.
Talent is great and all, but desire, the ability to work hard, focus and the fight inside to win — to make it happen — typically trumps raw talent. I think we can see that even through injuries, the Sox (and I can’t stand them) are wanting it more. They are doing whatever it takes — even with the young kids they have filling in spots for the injured veterans.
We need atleast one of Teixeria/Manny in the offseason.
We need to sell our souls this winter.
I was at the game tonight.. I live in Calif, paid $400 for my Dad and I to go and have been counting the days for months. I haven’t been to YS years, and the last time I was here was for a Yankees/Red Sox series about eight years ago.
The WORST thing about this game tonight wasn’t really that we got killed, but the amount of Red Sox fans there tonight, acting like they own the place. It was totally unbelievable and embarrassing. I know that there are a lot of bandwagon fans living in NY, but jeeez, “Yankees Suck” chants in Yankees Stadium? Are you effing kidding me?
I just couldn’t believe it.
Ok NYYanks fan.. so every person that pays to go to three random games go to Girardi? Re-read your statement are realize how dumb you sound.. Better yet, you should have said that George Steinbrenner pays his salary out of his own pocket.. By the way.. I was at one of those three games as a season ticket holder
I want Michael Kay’s Job -
I know. Whatever he’s doing is not working. Not for the offense, anyway. I don’t even think switching Giambi would make that big a difference, but it does bother me that he doesn’t do it anyway at this point. I know he said he wanted to put out a consistent lineup everyday, and at the onset of that it seemed to work, but even when it did, Giambi wasn’t doing much of anything then either. To me, that’s the most annoying, yet an easy thing to do it would seem.
When you look at who is “protecting” A-Rod, and the lack of production from so much of the line up, it isn’t hard to figure out why A-Rod isn’t doing all that well this year.
A-Rod is pressing because he is trying to carry the team. This year it just isn’t working.
I still question Long’s ability as Hitting Coach. Last year the effects of the previous coach were still being seen. This year Long’s methods have had a chance to sink in. How does it look?
Yes, its on the batters, but if they are taught wrong won’t that also show up in the results?
Doreen,
Exacly my angst.. As a LOYAL fan, I can’t help to express my inner anger even if noone agrees.. It’s just frustrating
A-Rod needs a guy who isn’t afraid of pressure behind him in the line-up to pick up the pieces IE Manny.
Ho-ly!
http://www.newsday.com/video/?.....nks0828-wn
AL from BK
What do we do with Manny-DH with Damon, Matsui, and possibly Posada, or do we trade Matsui and Damon. I’d like our defense to be better and don’t want to see Manny in left field. You advocate him to play a position. And isn’t he 37 with Boras and looking for 75M 3 year contract?
Trisha-
Was that Hanks comments from tonight, because I know he hasn’t been coming to many games, or is that a replay of a comment he made before the All Star game which applies to about every game the Yankees have played since their 8 game winning streak?
Trader – it had to be tonight. If you listen to one of the questions he was asked, it was something to the effect of “do you think they’re done?” Hank wouldn’t have been asked that question in July since it wouldn’t have made sense then.
I was at the game last night and tonight. I was also at the game in Baltimore on Friday night.
Whats really odd is that down in Baltimore, there were more Yanks fans and they seemed to be really into it.
Last night was like going to a wake. Tonight was like a funeral. I know the fans didnt have a lot to cheer about, but from the get go it just seemed like all us Yank fans were as tense as A-Rod with the bases loaded in the 9th trailing 3-2.
All told, I drove about 700 miles
Paid 220 for a hotel room in Baltimore
Paid about 600 in tickets and another 400 spending money.
Boy, i am really miserable right now
“Sign CC Sabathia for whatever it takes. Imagine a CC, Wang, Joba, Mussina, Hughes rotation if they’re all at their best.”
Hughes is not a good choice.
The rotation should be “THE BEST” pitchers.
Hughes is always injury and be overrate.
He is a good pitcher,but not the best.
Yankees has a lot of momey,but never pay it on the right place.
Cashman is short of insight and couldn’t help Yankees.
Cashman always waste a great quantity of money,but could gain the best players.
It’s a time to think about “BIG” rebuild for next year.
First of all,Yankees should fire Cashman and change the organization.
By the way,Mussina is the best this year,
but he is old and nobody can get konw he will be good next year,too.
Joba still couldn’t finish himself first whole season so far.
The 2009 ratation can be fine is just CC and Wang.
girardi can’t start throwing players under the bus now,it will destroy his team next year.forget how much the players make and all that for now.the yankees are a few moves away from being a great team in 2009.get rid of the problems,giambi,pettitte,abraeu,damon,matsui,pudge,ponson,rasner,mussina and rebuild.i would bring pettitte,moose,abraeu back but only for one year and not for 16 m illion a year.no matter wich way you look at it the hitters can’t keep covering for an absolutely terrible pitching staff.every game i watch they never start with a lead and they had no replacements for wang and joba.they need to lower payroll to 180 million or less.damon in left in 2009 isn’t the end of the world but in center field is a problem,melky in center all year was a huge problem,cano’s offense was a problem,inconsistent bullpen and the biggest problem is the starting pitching.the yankees need a true ace,move wang to the 2 spot,maybe get a solid three or joba for the three spot,see if pettitte and mussina will take a one year pay cut for the 4th and 5th spot.stop putting a number 2 pitcher like wang in the ace spot.get sabathia and maybe another good pitcher depending on what is available and the rotation can be sabathia,wang,joba,mussina,pettitte/hughes/?????? the yankees pitching alignment does not mach up well with any team in baseball.a 209 million dollar payroll has to buy at least three frontline starters going 1,2,3 and a decent 4th and 5th that give you a chance to win every night,the yankees don’t have that and if wang and joba were there they are much better because wang,joba,mussina is pretty darn good.ponson and rasner as the 4th and 5th won’t get it done and puts all the pressure in the world on 1-3.the offense had a bad year and needed the pitching to carry them as scarry as that sounds.the rays are in first because their pitching is number one in the american league and remained intact all year.they had injuries but not in the pitching staff for the most part.you really wan’t to build a great team,damon in left,get a center fielder,abraeu or nady in right,arod,jeter,cano,get a first baseman,dh posada and matsui,catch posada 2 days a week or get another catcher and dh posada full time,sign sabathia,sheets and the rotation will be sabathia,wang,sheets,joba,mussina/hughes/??