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		<title>By: Kalee Narainr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kalee Narainr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DUDE HANK THAT IS SOO MEAN DUDE! LOOK YOU OWN THIS TEAM U SUCK!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Tantron Willoughby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tantron Willoughby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hank is a good man.  A good man has to know his limitations.</description>
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		<title>By: EN</title>
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		<dc:creator>EN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Hank. Great analysis!
Why do you think they suck, Hank? Cashman you Fool!
This year alone Cashman has given us a starting rotation
of Phil Hughes, Sidney Ponson, Darrell Rasner,Pavano,
Ian Kennedy wrapped around two aging veterans in Messina and Pettite
Even with Joba in the rotation we have been two starters
short! The Bullpen is a Crapshoot and Mariano is getting
older! Fire Cashman Now and try to build something for
next year! While I&#039;m not sold on Girardi as a manager the
piss poor pitching is not his fault!
He plays the hand he&#039;s dealt!
Give him a good rotation and bullpen and see what he does!
Also please don&#039;t waste any more time on a never was like
Melky Cabrera! I can&#039;t believe this is the best the Yanks have in their farm system!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Hank. Great analysis!<br />
Why do you think they suck, Hank? Cashman you Fool!<br />
This year alone Cashman has given us a starting rotation<br />
of Phil Hughes, Sidney Ponson, Darrell Rasner,Pavano,<br />
Ian Kennedy wrapped around two aging veterans in Messina and Pettite<br />
Even with Joba in the rotation we have been two starters<br />
short! The Bullpen is a Crapshoot and Mariano is getting<br />
older! Fire Cashman Now and try to build something for<br />
next year! While I&#8217;m not sold on Girardi as a manager the<br />
piss poor pitching is not his fault!<br />
He plays the hand he&#8217;s dealt!<br />
Give him a good rotation and bullpen and see what he does!<br />
Also please don&#8217;t waste any more time on a never was like<br />
Melky Cabrera! I can&#8217;t believe this is the best the Yanks have in their farm system!</p>
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		<title>By: JohnC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope that Hal is the one calling the shots. He seems alot more levelheaded. Hank is just a big blowhard, who opens his mouth without thinking. He is a reporter&#039;s dream with his stupid comments. If he is the one in charge, we are in alot of trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope that Hal is the one calling the shots. He seems alot more levelheaded. Hank is just a big blowhard, who opens his mouth without thinking. He is a reporter&#8217;s dream with his stupid comments. If he is the one in charge, we are in alot of trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Fan mail from some flounder...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fan mail from some flounder...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... Some funny posts today. Interesting that when Hank S. echos the opinion of just about every here, he&#039;s a blowhard, bigmouth, etc. I guess that means we&#039;re all blowhards &amp; bigmouths, or more precisely, Yankee fans. I especially like those foot-stomping, vein-popping rants of &quot;I wanna win now!&quot;. Pure blowhard.

Also, the comments on Hank&#039;s attendance record, like it matters whether he attends games or not. He&#039;s an absentee owner. So what, right now, the Yankees are an absentee baseball team. Pure coincidence.

The Yankees have won 9 WS titles in my lifetime, 6 of them in the Steinbrenner ownership period. Hank can say whatever he wants to and attend however many games he pleases. Even when they&#039;re down, it good to be a Yankee fan and it really is just a game!

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; Some funny posts today. Interesting that when Hank S. echos the opinion of just about every here, he&#8217;s a blowhard, bigmouth, etc. I guess that means we&#8217;re all blowhards &amp; bigmouths, or more precisely, Yankee fans. I especially like those foot-stomping, vein-popping rants of &#8220;I wanna win now!&#8221;. Pure blowhard.</p>
<p>Also, the comments on Hank&#8217;s attendance record, like it matters whether he attends games or not. He&#8217;s an absentee owner. So what, right now, the Yankees are an absentee baseball team. Pure coincidence.</p>
<p>The Yankees have won 9 WS titles in my lifetime, 6 of them in the Steinbrenner ownership period. Hank can say whatever he wants to and attend however many games he pleases. Even when they&#8217;re down, it good to be a Yankee fan and it really is just a game!</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: TurnTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>TurnTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;i know they are playing bad but this is only the second game he has seen at the stadium all season.&quot;

so what? because he didnt go to more games, he cant speak honestly about the way the team played? thats silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;i know they are playing bad but this is only the second game he has seen at the stadium all season.&#8221;</p>
<p>so what? because he didnt go to more games, he cant speak honestly about the way the team played? thats silly.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good call there hank. i know they are playing bad but this is only the second game he has seen at the stadium all season.  i thought id say i miss george, but hank is a million times worse with his qoutes in the paper every day. which other owners in baseball say their team sucks? none, because it stupid and hank is a classless, spoiled brat, who was born with a golden spoon up his a**.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good call there hank. i know they are playing bad but this is only the second game he has seen at the stadium all season.  i thought id say i miss george, but hank is a million times worse with his qoutes in the paper every day. which other owners in baseball say their team sucks? none, because it stupid and hank is a classless, spoiled brat, who was born with a golden spoon up his a**.</p>
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		<title>By: TurnTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>TurnTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Could we still make a waiver wire deal and dump 1 or 2 of the over-priced over-the-hill big names for prospects?&quot;

its being reported Pavano and Ransom wre placed on waivers, so there might be an outside chance someone needs an extra pitcher (Mets?) or wants to fill out their bench.

you wont get much for any of these guys now, but at least if you move Pavano before Sept 1st, you dont have to worry about that option or buyout for next season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Could we still make a waiver wire deal and dump 1 or 2 of the over-priced over-the-hill big names for prospects?&#8221;</p>
<p>its being reported Pavano and Ransom wre placed on waivers, so there might be an outside chance someone needs an extra pitcher (Mets?) or wants to fill out their bench.</p>
<p>you wont get much for any of these guys now, but at least if you move Pavano before Sept 1st, you dont have to worry about that option or buyout for next season.</p>
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		<title>By: TurnTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>TurnTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;yeah changing starting catchers at the end of a season is really an astute baseball move when the one you have knows the pitchers and is doing a good job.&quot;

what has been the problem all season? the offense.

what did Cashman do about it at the deadline? he got the best offensive catcher available to plug a whole and lengthen the lineup, who also happened to be a solid defensive catcher in his own right. and he got him for a bullpen pitcher who wouldnt be back next season, and who brought a can of gasoline with him every time he took the mound.

how dare he. 

&quot;i said it in the beginning. hank is a baseball lightweight who is in charge because his father owns the team and is mentally disabled which explains hank being given the reins to the team. nespotism at itâ€™s worst.&quot;

and how do you really know who is in charge? you go into the organizational meetings? you an intern in the front office? best friends with a guy who knows a guy who&#039;s second cousin is the janitor at the stadium?

seriously, this kind of assumption is just as ridiculous as the yankees offensive production with RISP.

when it comes down to it, none of us here know anything about what goes on in that front office. we can guess, have some fun discussion, but you (we) need to keep a little perspective on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;yeah changing starting catchers at the end of a season is really an astute baseball move when the one you have knows the pitchers and is doing a good job.&#8221;</p>
<p>what has been the problem all season? the offense.</p>
<p>what did Cashman do about it at the deadline? he got the best offensive catcher available to plug a whole and lengthen the lineup, who also happened to be a solid defensive catcher in his own right. and he got him for a bullpen pitcher who wouldnt be back next season, and who brought a can of gasoline with him every time he took the mound.</p>
<p>how dare he. </p>
<p>&#8220;i said it in the beginning. hank is a baseball lightweight who is in charge because his father owns the team and is mentally disabled which explains hank being given the reins to the team. nespotism at itâ€™s worst.&#8221;</p>
<p>and how do you really know who is in charge? you go into the organizational meetings? you an intern in the front office? best friends with a guy who knows a guy who&#8217;s second cousin is the janitor at the stadium?</p>
<p>seriously, this kind of assumption is just as ridiculous as the yankees offensive production with RISP.</p>
<p>when it comes down to it, none of us here know anything about what goes on in that front office. we can guess, have some fun discussion, but you (we) need to keep a little perspective on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t know how Hank and Hal are even considering bringing back Cashman at this point.  The team is probably going to end up in the 85 or 86 win range - needless to say, underachieving for a $207 million payroll.  His supposed emphasis on upgrading the farm system has been a falsehood.  How many farm players made an impact on this season?  Chamberlain, yes.  Hughes, no.  Kennedy, no.  Do they have any potential players in the farm who will be ready for &#039;09?  No, unless you count Jackson.  And that would mean rushing him to the ML, which is always a recipe for disaster (see Hughes).  The only team in our system that has some potential high level talent is Charleston (Montero, Betances, Romine, Heredia, Laird, and Suttle).  But all of those players are 3 or 4 years away from contributing anything to the club.  All of his supposed great trades for prospects have failed: (1) Alberto Gonzalez and Ross Ohlendorf (i.e. Randy Johnson) have both been traded (2) Humberto Sanchez and Kevin Whelan (i.e. Gary Sheffield) have both suffered through arm injuries and slow development.  Plus, his strategy in regards to international scouting and the draft has blown up in his face for &#039;08.  He has said himself that the team did not sign any high level talent out of Latin America after missing out on Michael Inoa.  And in regards to the draft, he failed to sign the prized selection (i.e. Gerrit Cole), who happened to be one of the top 5 pitchers in the entire pool of talent.  Now, people can come back and say that it was Cole&#039;s decision to go back to school.  But, ultimately, Cashman and Oppenheimer understood the risks and drafted Cole anyway.  Given the circumstances, there is absolutely no way whatsoever that you can let him go to UCLA.  None.

So, all in all, I think those are pretty solid reasons why Cashman should not be retaining his job in &#039;09.  I understand people are gonna come back with: &quot;Well, what do you expect?  When you lose Posada, Matsui, Wang, Chamberlain, and A-Rod (for part of the season) for the season, you try to win.&quot;  And my response?  Red Sox lost Schilling for the season.  Ortiz has missed the majority of the regular season.  Ramirez (when he was still there) was skipping games each and every day.  And now Drew is pretty much done for the rest of the year.  And do you see those fans making excuses?  None whatsoever.  It&#039;s not my fault that the Yanks couldn&#039;t battle through injuries, like every other team in the league.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t know how Hank and Hal are even considering bringing back Cashman at this point.  The team is probably going to end up in the 85 or 86 win range &#8211; needless to say, underachieving for a $207 million payroll.  His supposed emphasis on upgrading the farm system has been a falsehood.  How many farm players made an impact on this season?  Chamberlain, yes.  Hughes, no.  Kennedy, no.  Do they have any potential players in the farm who will be ready for &#8217;09?  No, unless you count Jackson.  And that would mean rushing him to the ML, which is always a recipe for disaster (see Hughes).  The only team in our system that has some potential high level talent is Charleston (Montero, Betances, Romine, Heredia, Laird, and Suttle).  But all of those players are 3 or 4 years away from contributing anything to the club.  All of his supposed great trades for prospects have failed: (1) Alberto Gonzalez and Ross Ohlendorf (i.e. Randy Johnson) have both been traded (2) Humberto Sanchez and Kevin Whelan (i.e. Gary Sheffield) have both suffered through arm injuries and slow development.  Plus, his strategy in regards to international scouting and the draft has blown up in his face for &#8217;08.  He has said himself that the team did not sign any high level talent out of Latin America after missing out on Michael Inoa.  And in regards to the draft, he failed to sign the prized selection (i.e. Gerrit Cole), who happened to be one of the top 5 pitchers in the entire pool of talent.  Now, people can come back and say that it was Cole&#8217;s decision to go back to school.  But, ultimately, Cashman and Oppenheimer understood the risks and drafted Cole anyway.  Given the circumstances, there is absolutely no way whatsoever that you can let him go to UCLA.  None.</p>
<p>So, all in all, I think those are pretty solid reasons why Cashman should not be retaining his job in &#8217;09.  I understand people are gonna come back with: &#8220;Well, what do you expect?  When you lose Posada, Matsui, Wang, Chamberlain, and A-Rod (for part of the season) for the season, you try to win.&#8221;  And my response?  Red Sox lost Schilling for the season.  Ortiz has missed the majority of the regular season.  Ramirez (when he was still there) was skipping games each and every day.  And now Drew is pretty much done for the rest of the year.  And do you see those fans making excuses?  None whatsoever.  It&#8217;s not my fault that the Yanks couldn&#8217;t battle through injuries, like every other team in the league.</p>
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