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Irate fan wants A-Rod out

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 29, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

We here at the LoHud Yankees Blog believe in being fair.

Last season, some lunatic a good fan started a web site to promote the idea of fans being nice to Alex Rodriguez. We linked to it.

Now we have another fan who has founded No More A-Rod.

Eric basically wants Alex off the Yankees. There are a few problems with that. They seem to want him around and no other team would be willing to take on the nine years remaining on his contract.

But other than that, it’s a fine idea. Maybe they can get Mike Lamb back.

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97 Responses to “Irate fan wants A-Rod out”

  1. YankeesLuv August 29th, 2008 at 12:20 am

    Yawn….

  2. Peter Rabbit August 29th, 2008 at 12:24 am

    A little off topic but, did anyone catch Obama’s speech tonight? Amazing. Just amazing.

  3. Pepitone August 29th, 2008 at 12:24 am

    “Eric basically wants Alex off the Yankees. There are a few problems with that. They seem to want him around and no other team would be willing to take on the nine years remaining on his contract.”

    Yeah, him and me both. But, you’re right Pete, no one would want to take on that ridiculous contract.

    Someone the other day said, and I agree, we all might as well get used to the idea of Alex being a Yankee for the next 9 years. However, there has to be a way of getting his production without his choking hurting the team. Moving him out of that 4 spot is a must. The less pressure on him the better he seems to perform.

  4. sam g August 29th, 2008 at 12:27 am

    Classic recent post over there….

    A-Rod has 2 RBI in the 8th and 9th innings ALL YEAR.

    Whats wrong with this guy. So good, yet so bad…

  5. Rafael August 29th, 2008 at 12:27 am

    As much as I’ve loved logging on to this blog, and reading all the postings, it’s sad that some myths about players being chokers, while others not being accountable for their play, are being perpetuated. A-Rod has had some awful games, for sure, but the team would not be better off without him. I know Derek Jeter is God, but it would be interesting to see how many times Pete crucifies him when he grounds into a double play to kill a rally. I’d venture to say that the ratio of Jeter screwing up and being called on it, versus the ratio of A-Rod screwing up and being mocked by Pete and a lot of us here, is not the same.
    And sadly, people will read these postings, and actually believe that A-Rod may be the one to blame.
    I’d be curious to read how many negative postings Pete has put up about Chien-Ming Wang. All I remember reading here is every single time he pitched great, and how great a guy he is. I wonder if having written a book with the guy has anything to do with that. A-Rod didn’t screw up the playoffs last year; Wang pitched horribly, both games.
    I’m not going to be an A-Rod apologist. He hasn’t produced like we’d want him to. But you can twist stats anyway you’d like to, just to prove he’s sucked, and you can pull some stats that have him among the league’s best hitters.
    Be careful what you wish for. Joke about getting Mike Lamb. Alex Rodriguez is not the reason the Yankees have sucked this year.

  6. YankeesLuv August 29th, 2008 at 12:28 am

    Arod hating is sooo 2006.

  7. ANSKY August 29th, 2008 at 12:34 am

    Blinded by expectations. It’s sad.

    How many teams would not want a guy who will go down as one of the all time greats, will almost certainly hit at least .300 every year, will probably hit around 40HR every year (sometimes a little more, sometimes much more), knock in well over 100 runs, is almost never injured (yes at times he has been hurt up but he still goes out and tries if he’s able to walk) play pretty damn good defense and has one of the best throwing arms in the game?

    If anyone hates him just because he hits less than .320 with less than 50HR and less than 150RBI they know precisely d*ck about the game.

    He even did a Paul O’Neill impression in the dugout today. Oh wait a minute. I think I see the difference. A-Rod asaulted the bat rack instead of the water cooler, like O’Neill would have. He should know better. Or maybe he’s just being respectful in case these ‘fans’ want the team to retire watercoolers along with number 21.

    C’mon … if it was Melky whiffing or popping out with a man on base, he’d go back to the dugout and work on is next variation to the post-win high five, flying hip bump & hand shake.

  8. sam g August 29th, 2008 at 12:36 am

    Hey Ansky,
    Is that who i think it is?
    Did you just move up here from SC?

  9. ANSKY August 29th, 2008 at 12:38 am

    Sorry, sam g … different guy. Been living in NYC almost 20 years.

  10. COL 88 August 29th, 2008 at 12:39 am

    Mike Lamb is too much in return for A-Rod

  11. sam g August 29th, 2008 at 12:40 am

    Right on, i have a buddy who uses that same name all the time. In fact has an ANSKY tat on his arm. Homage to a great ad…

  12. ANSKY August 29th, 2008 at 12:40 am

    A great bunch of ads indeed …

  13. ANSKY August 29th, 2008 at 12:42 am

    … hard to believe that was 10 years ago too.

  14. gayle August 29th, 2008 at 12:43 am

    Peter as much as I dont want to talk politics here it was simply a mind blowing night on tv (and I mean that in a great way).

    No offense to the creator of the web site, but that site and a dollar MIGHT get you a cup of coffee other than that it’s about all it will get you.

    Hope everyone has a great long weekend. Myself I will be at the stadium Friday and SAturday hoping for some good games. At least I can say that I actually saw Carl Pavano pitch at Yankee Stadium. Rasner I have seen too many times at Yankee stadium unfortunately. Let me take that back I did see him pitch against the Mariners but I think that game can be credited as much to the dismal Mariners and the atrocious fielding that day more than his pitching.

  15. trico August 29th, 2008 at 12:43 am

    “There are a few problems with that. They seem to want him around and no other team would be willing to take on the nine years remaining on his contract.”

    You forgot the other problem – that A-Rod is awesome at hitting and the team’s offense, which has been very disappointing, would be utter crap without him in the lineup.

    Sure he has struggled with RISP this season, but that is so far down on the list of Yankee problems for the year. Look at what ARod did last year with RISP. Look at what he’s done in his career with RISP. It’s amazing how everyone already forgot about last season. ARod is probably the best hitter in baseball after Pujols.

  16. Adam August 29th, 2008 at 12:46 am

    This is ridiculous. How original, this guy wants A-Rod gone a day after he had the worst game of his season. Are you kidding me? How many rallies has Captain Clutch killed this season with his double plays? I don’t see anyone suggesting that the Yankees get rid of him…

    If A-Rod went 5 for 5 tomorrow, people like this would still find something to complain about.

  17. EdFL. August 29th, 2008 at 12:47 am

    I dont know if this has been mentioned before but our old friend Tanyon Sturtze has been DFA

  18. ANSKY August 29th, 2008 at 12:47 am

    I’d rather have A-Rod on our team than anyone else’s. I’d also rather have Giambi on anyone else’s team than ours.

    If Joe G could put a real hitter in the 5 hole behind A-Rod every night, things would change a bit.

  19. Nick in SF August 29th, 2008 at 12:48 am

    Walkoff win for A’s = loss for Twins.

    That’s good news for our hopes and dreams.

  20. Chris August 29th, 2008 at 12:48 am

    How dare you compare ARod to Jeter. Jeter has been clutch more times than I can count. He’s paid his dues and has done way more than ARod EVER will for this team.

  21. CUYanks August 29th, 2008 at 12:50 am

    Has anyone noticed how Arod goes every other year a huge year?

  22. ANSKY August 29th, 2008 at 12:53 am

    Yes Trico … thats precisely it. He ain’t always Pujols (or Ortiz) so of course he absoutely sucks and should be dumped. It’s tiring to hear, but some people really seem to think that way.

    Funny how those people think the team would be better if he was replaced by anyone with at least half of (but never more than) his ability and his production.

  23. CanIGetAMooseCall August 29th, 2008 at 12:56 am

    Arod is clubhouse poison. Giving him a 10-year deal was insanity, and the fact that no other team would come close to giving him a deal like that (including big-market teams) says a lot. Hank f’ed up.

  24. Jamal G. August 29th, 2008 at 12:58 am

    Yes, let’s get rid of a player who led the Yankees charge to the playoffs last year, has three straight years of 35-HR and 120-RBI, and two M.V.P. awards in those three years. Let’s get rid of the player who has an 158-OPS+ this season, meaning he is more productive than nearly 60% of all A.L. hitters. Let’s get rid of the guy with the second highest OPS in the A.L. Let’s get rid of the guy with the 57.5-VORP (second highest in the A.L. to Grady Sizemore at 58.9) because of one situational stat, his Batting Average w/RISP.

    Yes, what a “fine idea”. My God.

  25. Nate August 29th, 2008 at 1:02 am

    A-Rod is far and away the most productive offensive player for the Yankees this season, and as Jamal said, has been one of the more productive players in the league. Its true that his contract is a bit ridiculous, but so are most baseball contracts. Getting rid of A-Rod really would not solve any problems, but it would create about 100.

  26. ANSKY August 29th, 2008 at 1:02 am

    Seriously .. who’s going to be better?

    What could happen? Pujols’ elbow miraculously heals w/o surgery and he moves to 3B … AND the Cardinals actually trade him to NY?

    C’mon … be real … if you think this, you obviously have a terminal case of fecal cortex syndrome.

    Should’ve gotten Mile Lowell when A-Rod opted out? Joe Crede? Bring Scott Brosius back? Get Ortiz or Bonds or Manny (neither of which can play defense, the last two of which would acually BE the clubhouse cancer some people foolishly think A-Rod is) Please, in the name of all things good and holy …. get a grip. Who else is there at 3B, much less who’s even AVAILABLE at 3B?

  27. Nick in SF August 29th, 2008 at 1:03 am

    The 10-year deal puts too much pressure on Arod.

    Extend him and make it 15 years. Then he can relax and know he’ll be provided for until close to his 50th birthday.

    People are more relaxed when they have long-term financial security.

  28. ANSKY August 29th, 2008 at 1:05 am

    Nick .. that was priceless. Further, let’s all take up a collection to help him make ends meet in the meantime.

  29. ANSKY August 29th, 2008 at 1:12 am

    MooseCall – how precisely does a 10-year deal equal being a clubhouse cancer?

  30. Mr Anderson August 29th, 2008 at 1:13 am

    Peyton Manning
    Eli Manning
    Bill Cowher
    John Elway
    Randy Johnson
    The entire Red Sox franchise
    The entire White Sox franchise

    What do all of these people/entities have in common?

    All of them, at one point or another, were labeled as chokers would would NEVER EVER EVER win “the big one”

    Those who despite good to great talent would never overcome their physical or mental or other limitations to become champions.

    And all of them have.

    I’m not saying Alex will become a champion one day because the prior individuals have. I’m saying, don’t be so sure that he won’t and declare for 100% incontrovertible fact that it will never happen. Cause there is a decent chance you will end up looking foolish.

    Am I disappointed in him when he doesn’t come through? Sure. But, here is reality. The New York Yankees as they are constructed now would not be anywhere nearly as good as they are now without a guy who could match his production. And you don’t just pick up a 1.000+ OPS off the street.

    “Well what about Jason Bay and Manny Ramirez? The Red Sox are doing just fine without that prima donna!”

    Well, if you look a little closer you would have realized that THIS version of Manny Ramirez and THIS version of Jason Bay have been reasonably close to the same hitter all season. Add in the fact that Bay is a much better fielder and baserunner and actually hustles, the Red Sox made out OK.

    That is something you can never say about Alex. He never doesn’t not try. He never dogs it. He never blames anyone else for his struggles. He had the opportunity to leave NY at the end of last year and chose to stay.

    The contract had a ton to do with it, duh, but you have to admit this. He looked at his baseball legacy and decided that he would rather stay in NY, try, fail, and be everyone’s whipping boy rather than take comparable money to go somewhere else without all the extra pressure.

    “But no one else would have given him that deal. The Yankees bid against themselves.” True, in a sense, but A-Rod got 250 mil out of the Rangers. I’m pretty sure he could have gotten a better deal than Miguel Cabrera got from Detroit.

    Look, I am not saying that he is blameless. He has struggled so mightily for how talented he is. But here is the reality of the situation for all of you fans and media pundits.

    1) Alex has 9 more years on his deal and a no-trade clause.

    2) Arod is the best player on the team and the only guy in his prime. If you plan to easily replace his .950-1.000 OPS, good luck with that.

    3) He was one Mariano Rivera blown save away in 2004 from having his entire perception of him changed.

    The simple inescapable truth is this. No matter what, all of you fans that stamp your feet in self-righteous indignation, and claim that you hate his guts, and you won’t ever root for him and you curse the Yankees for giving him another deal, or you won’t be a fan anymore as long as he is on the team are completely and utterly full of ****.

    After this season is over, whether the Yankees make the playoffs or not, you will burn up inside, and you will stew, and you may call into talk radio stations to scream your lungs out how the Yankees need to get rid of him. Or you will go an extra mile further to create web sites like the idiot in the blog entry did. Perhaps you will pass out fliers outside of the stadium campaigning for the organization to “come to their senses” and get rid of him–despite the severe financial and on-the-field ramifications–because he will never win and he isn’t a “True Yankee.” (What a load of garbage that is btw.)

    You know what you are gonna do?

    You’re gonna come back.

    You know why?

    Cause you’re a mark. A patsy. A sucker. A lemming. The very reason why pro sports teams are worth millions and billions of dollars. You are gonna come back and root the team on. Because you can’t help yourself. You can’t tear yourself away because you have emotionally tied yourself to a franchise and you can’t let go.

    As have I mind you, but I don’t get on a soap box and spout 50 tons of hot air and make hasty declarations of fact as if I have a crystal ball and I know what guys are and what guys aren’t. I enjoy sports as the entertainment that they are, but I don’t take it 20 million-billion yards too far like you do.

    All of you who want A-Rod gone without even considering what it would do to the fortunes of the team going forward need to get a grip.

    Here’s reality:

    He isn’t going anywhere. You can boo till your lungs bleed. He isn’t leaving NY and there is nothing you can do about it.

    Here are your options:

    A) Hate A-Rod’s guts for the next 10 years and give yourselves bleeding ulcers.

    OR

    B) Believe that one day–perhaps sooner than you think–he will shrug off the frustrations of coming through in pressure situations and help the Yankees in a big way to win the World Series.

    And if he does, you can come back here or you can call a talk radio show and say how you knew he had it in him and you were with him all along.

  31. Bob Loblaw's Law Blog August 29th, 2008 at 1:14 am

    If you were going to list the 10 biggest reasons the Yankees are struggling in 2008, ARod would not appear on the list. His struggles with RISP are not anywhere near as big of a problem as the following:

    1) Jorge Posada injury forcing Molina to get way too many at-bats

    2) Wang missing half the season

    3) Melky being one of the worst hitters in baseball this season with regular at-bats – that’s not an exaggeration

    4) Sidney Ponson is our third best starter. Think about it. He has pitched more innings as a Yankee than Mo this season. Think about it.

    5) Kennedy and Hughes have been a terrible flop. Carl Pavano has more wins than Hughes and Kennedy combined.

    6) Jeter and Cano are having the worst seasons of their careers.

    7) Rasner has the third most IP on the team. He is a terrible pitcher.

    8) The Yankee minor league system was inadequately prepared to deal with injuries to Matsui, Damon, Posada, and Wang.

    9) The Yankee bench has been terrible, especially Betemit and Ensberg.

    10) Joe Girardi benched the regulars way too much against lefty starters throughout most of the season.

    And there are several other factors I didn’t even mention, including Giambi’s month-long hot/cold streaks or Meacham being a crappy 3B coach.

    ARod has been disappoitning with RISP this year, there’s no doubt. But he has been awesome otherwise, and those other situations are important as well. So while it would be nice to find a way to fix his RISP issues this year, that isn’t even close to the biggest problem the team faces looking ahead. The lineup is in huge decline without any appropriate minor league replacements, and the young pitchers have either been terrible or injured or both. Those are the things the Yankees need to work on improving. Moving the best hitter off the team isn’t going to solve any of those things. Alex is part of the solution, not part of the problem.

    Really, the biggest failure/disappointment of this season has been the ineffectiveness of the player development side of things. Hughes and Kennedy and Joba didn’t even come close to reaching their innings limits this year. Melky and Cano have been huge disappointments, especially Melky. Posada’s future at catcher is questionable, and Jose Molina is clearly an unacceptable regular player since he can’t hit anything. The fact that we have no minor league options better than Ponson or Rasner is very damning.

    So the point is, leave Alex alone. He isn’t the problem with this team.

  32. Jose August 29th, 2008 at 1:15 am

    Give me a guy like Doug Mientkiewicz on my team over A-Rod any day of the week.

  33. ANSKY August 29th, 2008 at 1:16 am

    Breathe, Mr Anderson … breeathe.

  34. ANSKY August 29th, 2008 at 1:17 am

    Stop breathing, Jose … stoooop breeathing. :)

  35. Onkel Bob August 29th, 2008 at 1:19 am

    Only 9 more years in the wilderness, less than the time between ’65 – ’76, less than ’83 – ’95. Hey, you can can remember a World Series championship, it was in our lifetime. Not like it’s 80+ years of futility.

  36. Steve August 29th, 2008 at 1:20 am

    ARod can’t win.

    It seems that even if he went 5 for 5, he would piss some Yankee fans off because they couldn’t boo him that day.

    Arod is our best offensive player every year.

    He may struggle this year with RISP, but all of his other offensive production help us win all of those other games, and he takes away the need for clutch hitting in those other games.

  37. Soap August 29th, 2008 at 1:23 am

    “Give me a guy like Doug Mientkiewicz on my team over A-Rod any day of the week.”

    Why?

    Peter, I’m curious. If I created a website that wanted Jason Giambi off the team, would you link to it “out of fairness”?

  38. fred from jersey August 29th, 2008 at 1:26 am

    Hes an idiot and so are you.

  39. Soap August 29th, 2008 at 1:26 am

    I hope Peter posts the thoughts of every Yankee fan of who should or shouldn’t be on the team, that would be great.

  40. NYYanksFan August 29th, 2008 at 1:27 am

    “Give me a guy like Doug Mientkiewicz on my team over A-Rod any day of the week.”

    Most here didn’t want Dougie batting 9th on this team last year and you want him batting 4th?

  41. MoBoy(aka McLovin) August 29th, 2008 at 1:36 am

    ’04:A-Rod was bad and made us look foolish against the Red Sox in the ALCS

    ’05:A-Rod wins the AL MVP

    ’06:A-Rod plays bad and Giambi hits more homeruns then him

    ’07:A-Rod has one of the best offensive years of all time and one of the best clutch years I have ever seen.

    ’08:A-Rod is having one of the worst clutch years I have ever seen and Giambi might past him again in hom,eruns and RBi’s

    ’09:A-Rod is due a good year.

    Every other year A-Rod has played like a MVP.Putting Tex should make A-Rod better or Ryan Howard.Matsui and Giambi can’t back him up.A-Rod even though he should be playing better

  42. tfert August 29th, 2008 at 1:51 am

    “Peter, I’m curious. If I created a website that wanted Jason Giambi off the team, would you link to it “out of fairness”?

    I was thinking the same exact thing. I was thinking that if you wanted Giami off the team, there’s no way Pete would link to it.

    “Give me a guy like Doug Mientkiewicz on my team over A-Rod any day of the week.”

    This is clearly the dumbest thing I’ve read al day. And the funniest too, because you seem to be serious. Wow.

  43. george August 29th, 2008 at 2:12 am

    this blog entry’s overall sense of idiocy made me check A-Rod’s HR log on baseball reference. there are a variety of facts that show why A-Rod’s kind of a useful guy to have on your baseball team.

    an interesting one was comparing Manny w/A’Rod:

    HR’s that tied games: Manny 48, A-Rod 45
    HR’s that put team ahead: Manny 157, A-Rod 184
    Game-ending HRs: Manny 3, A-Rod 7

    A-Rod’s HR log is interesting too. This year, of his 28 HRs
    18 occurred in close games (within 3 runs up/down). 24 of them were what i’d consider meaningful – non-blowout situations.

  44. Clare August 29th, 2008 at 2:24 am

    Remember how this team looked while ARod was on the DL? Anyone want to try that again?

    BTW: I like how it’s accepted fact (mainly because certain writers keep saying it) that ARod wouldn’t have gotten a huge deal from any other team last year. What certain people ignore is that ARod went back to the Yankees BEFORE he could even talk money with any other team. So the idea that he only came back because of money is just a lie. But, like many lies, if repeated often enough becomes the accepted as truth.

    Who knows what he would have gotten if he allowed the Boras plan to play out. The fact is that he didn’t. And taking the public statements of various teams as evidence that they would not have paid out big dollars is idiocy. No one publicly discloses their final offer before they are even permitted to start negotiating.

  45. Jon August 29th, 2008 at 4:02 am

    Glad to see Pete’s short temper and vendetta against A-Rod have got him supporting random blogs who make idiotic claims based on a week or two’s worth of data? When are you going to get your journalistic integrity back, Pete?

  46. Bender August 29th, 2008 at 4:16 am

    “Really, the biggest failure/disappointment of this season has been the ineffectiveness of the player development side of things.”

    The biggest disappointment of the year has been seeing how quickly the fans turn on their players. Absolutely embarrassing behavior by many posters on here and Pete Abe.

  47. BB August 29th, 2008 at 5:24 am

    A-Rod is a problem certainly.
    He can’t hit under pressure.
    He can’t hit when the opponent pitcher is better.
    He can’t hit when the fans boo to him.
    He can’t hit in scoring position.
    He can’t hit when he in a bad mood.
    He is hurting the team this season.
    He has a very “BIG” contract,no team can bite it.
    What can we do?
    We just help him to improve hitting and look for psychologist to heal his mental.

  48. YankeeDiva August 29th, 2008 at 6:44 am

    Maybe we could trade Alex to the Journal News and get Pete and this ‘Eric’ guy to platoon 3rd… :)

    Very disappointing blog….I thought journalism was suppose to be a not bias report of what’s going on in the world (in this case the Yankee world) but Pete has shown time and time again that he is so bias against ARod (because he walks away when he’s done talking to you…how dare he) and the constant bashing is very childlike. So Alex isn’t perfect (I think WE all know that by now) but he isn’t what’s wrong with the Yankees right now. One person should not be responsible for ALL of the Yankee runs…if you have those expectations then you set both the team and the individual for failure.

  49. Rodney August 29th, 2008 at 7:03 am

    Just hire Buck to drive A-Rod far, far away from NY!

  50. Jeremy August 29th, 2008 at 7:29 am

    I’m very happy to see Jamal G. posting here. Please don’t give up on this site because of the rampant stupidity, Jamal.

    “We just help him to improve hitting and look for psychologist to heal his mental.”

    ARod is probably the most honest player in baseball about his use of therapists, which should be commendable. Instead it has led to a perception that he is crazy or hypersensitive. This is annoying because it distracts fans from the fact that ARod is a fantastic baseball player and the Yankees would be much worse off without him.

  51. murphydog August 29th, 2008 at 7:45 am

    “ARod is probably the most honest player in baseball about his use of therapists, which should be commendable. Instead it has led to a perception that he is crazy or hypersensitive.”

    I’m only half kidding when I say: if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

    Look, A-Rod has a plethora of physical gifts. That doesn’t mean he has a similar number of emotional gifts. Being able to relax and focus when the heat is on is a gift, separate from the rest. By working with 2 shrinks he is trying to improve himself and get to that comfort zone in more than a few aspects of his life. Baseball history is dotted with guys who have been able to focus and relax in big spots while spending the majority of their careers in the middle of the pack, being, well, un-A-Rod like. Do you spend your time asking those guys why they can’t be more like A-Rod?

    On the whole I’d rather have him on my team than not have him, the boy with the strawberry curl.

  52. Gary August 29th, 2008 at 8:29 am

    A-Rod’s stock with fans and teammates would rise dramatically if he were to sit down with Joe Girardi and Kevin Long and come to the realization that he’s too much of a rally killer by constantly swinging for the fences.
    He has to understand that in certain situations he does the team more good by just moving runners along the bases by either bunting, hitting to the opposite field or just a simple little single just over the infield.
    The home runs come by themselves with his talent but he needs to be more of a contact hitter.
    Sometimes therapy is more of a hindrance than anything else. Keep it simple.

  53. jay destro August 29th, 2008 at 8:48 am

    fun fact, 9 more years. grow up.

  54. ellen August 29th, 2008 at 8:51 am

    Anyone else notice that there’s very little “middle ground” when it comes to A-Rod? People either want to deem him a loser and trade him for a bag of balls (ignoring his great skills) or want to annoint him the second coming and make him a nice cup of warm tea (to make up for all the mean booing he hears from insensitive jerks).

    He is neither a loser nor the answer to all problems. He is a frustrating enigma, frankly. As murphydog said, he has been blessed with great physical gifts. Also, from what we hear, he has a tremendous work ethic and doesn’t take his skills for granted. But there is no doubt that he doesn’t come up with the sac fly with RISP and less than 2 outs. I don’t know what can be done about that. And until he does, there is going to be criticism, no doubt about it.

    Someone posted here recently that the pressure will follow him wherever he hits in the lineup. That’s probably true. We have a lot of years of A-Rod at 3rd to see how this plays out.

  55. YankeeDiva August 29th, 2008 at 8:55 am

    Gary that’s not true, he has done all of those things except the bunt and people still harp on him, mostly because he doesn’t/can’t do it ALL the time. They get on Jeter about bunting can you imagine the field day they would have with the 4th batter/’rbi’ guy bunting??

    How do you know that he hasn’t had conversations with Girardi and Long about his struggles? I’m pretty sure he has. He just has to work his way through the struggles and block out all the excessive noise (media and fans).

  56. Axel August 29th, 2008 at 9:04 am

    I’ve never been so disappointed in the Yankee organization than when they decided to re-sign A-Rod after HE opted out. Speak your mind Eric.

  57. RhapsodyInBlue August 29th, 2008 at 9:09 am

    I tend to believe Alex has brought a great deal of this criticism on himself.

    Living the life of a single man while married with the high profile that he has is risky business yet it was a choice that he made.

    I could be wrong but I think Alex is playing poorly because he is currently dealing with the daily pressures he himself has created living away from his family.

    If he wanted a single life, he should have divorced his wife and moved on. I wonder if the Yankee ownership had seen this coming if they still would have given him the contract he now enjoys.

  58. Vincent Migliore August 29th, 2008 at 9:20 am

    Lets not be stupid. The whole team hasn’t played well. AROD off the team makes the Yanks a last place team.

  59. Dee August 29th, 2008 at 9:26 am

    “A-Rod has 2 RBI in the 8th and 9th innings ALL YEAR.

    Whats wrong with this guy.”

    Amazing athletic ability plus a weak mind. That’s what’s wrong.

  60. RhapsodyInBlue August 29th, 2008 at 9:31 am

    Dee

    In a nutshell, the boy is a headcase. The added pressures of his marital issues has the boy on overload.

  61. Tim N. August 29th, 2008 at 9:42 am

    You so-called fans drive me nuts. I guess you’d rather have Jerry Kenney or Celerino Sanchez or Torey Lovullo manning third?

    Oh, that’s right, you 96-come-latelys don’t know any of those guys.

    The more I go to the Stadium (fan since ’71) the more I think there should be a test that mooks should have to take before they try to strain their brains and express opinions.

  62. Axel August 29th, 2008 at 9:49 am

    Tim N. is so voting for McCain.

  63. bru August 29th, 2008 at 10:07 am

    do you realize along with arods 35 hr and 115 rbi in his sleep on his worse year for the most part,he is always batting around 300 or better,oba of 400 easily and brings in a ton of money to the yankees.the yankees never drew 4 million fans before arod.economic experts say he will over his ten year contract bring in 450 million extra dollars to the yankees that would not be there without him.they will pay him 420 million dollars over the ten years of his contract,luxury tax included,you do the math.

  64. bigjf August 29th, 2008 at 10:09 am

    Yankees ownership and management wouldn’t trade A-Rod even if they could. He puts butts in the seats and is going to earn huge revenue for the franchise and the YES network as he pursues the home run record.

  65. YankeeDiva August 29th, 2008 at 10:21 am

    Just curious: why is it when Alex struggles its because he’s ‘nutcase’ when anyone else struggles its because they are in a slump or having an off year? Never mind that Alex is asked to do things that no other current player is asked to do (hit 40+ hrs a year and 150 RBI other wise the whole season is a failure).

  66. MooseCall August 29th, 2008 at 10:28 am

    “MooseCall – how precisely does a 10-year deal equal being a clubhouse cancer?”

    I didn’t say one caused the other. My point is that it is insane to give a 10-year deal to a guy who is clubhouse cancer. And that’s exactly what the Yankees did. Bad move.

  67. bru August 29th, 2008 at 10:29 am

    Jose please get some help!!! that would be true if the pitching staff was full of aces 1-5 but the fact in baseball is that you need at least one great power hitter on a team and it scares me to think that you might actually believe you’re own post that you would wan’t a 250 hitter with 12 hr,60 rbi,obp of 320 over a 35 hr,115 rbi,300 avg,400 obp guy who plays a good defense.we had some of those years in the 80′s.when you’re whole team stinks arod is the type of guy who tries to put the whole world on his shoulders and that breaks you down and makes you tired and he still will bat 300,30-35 hr,100 rbi and an oba of over 400 wich says that he is the best player in the game,easily and all that while going through a very public divorse.when the yankees build the right team around arod with good pitching they will win.answer one question.if you took brosus out and put arod in in the 90′s,what happens?,i still think they win it all.girardi did not put the best lineup out most of the year because of his lefty righty fascination.this team is old,tired and has no pitching and they took steroids,hgh,uppers,downers and allarounders away from the players,how dare they?

  68. pounder August 29th, 2008 at 10:33 am

    Obama is an elitist yuppie created and promoted by Pelosi and Reid.McCain stinks also.

  69. T15D23 August 29th, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Forget the stats. All I see with my own eyes is Dave Winfield the II.

    What a mistake by the dumb spawn of King George to sign this guy to a 10 year deal.

    I can only hope I live long enough to see this team Rodrigez-free and Steinbrenner-free.

  70. rover August 29th, 2008 at 10:49 am

    Well I’m sure pitchers just quake, knowing they can be so careful with Arod, virtually never needing to get him out never challenging him, cause oh yeah giambi if nothing else will get that needed basehit.

  71. RhapsodyInBlue August 29th, 2008 at 11:34 am

    “YankeeDiva
    August 29th, 2008 at 10:21 am
    Just curious: why is it when Alex struggles its because he’s ‘nutcase’ when anyone else struggles its because they are in a slump or having an off year? Never mind that Alex is asked to do things that no other current player is asked to do (hit 40+ hrs a year and 150 RBI other wise the whole season is a failure).”

    Each player is an individual, Alex is a truly gifted athlete no doubt. Some have the ability to relax in the clutch, he does not as his history shows. If you think all his family issues (which he created) are not an issue in his performance this season, there’s no point in arguing.

    Take a look at the choices he’s made recently, 50 year old Madonna? Or that freak he was spotted with in Toronto? Risk your marriage for either? Jeter dates superstars. Alex could have chosen discretion like Spitzer client #9 and spared his family but to risk it all for those two hags. He’s a headcase.

  72. Anthony August 29th, 2008 at 11:38 am

    Dave Winfield II? Did you even watch or root for the Yankees in the 1980s? Your statement is so ridiculously dumb to blame either Winfield (one of the top players in baseball history) or ARod for the fact that we didn’t have the pitching on either this team or the 80s team. Learn something about baseball before you post nonsense for god’s sake. Stop being a spoiled brat and understand that one guy can’t make up for a 25 man team’s deficiencies. Moron.

  73. Anthony August 29th, 2008 at 11:40 am

    RhapsodyInBlue, I’m so glad you can educate us all with the important “facts” you’ve learned about ARod’s like from the New York tabloids. Congratulations on believing everything you read, I didn’t realize they made your model anymore.

  74. RhapsodyInBlue August 29th, 2008 at 11:45 am

    Alex’s personal life is none of my business, but to point out that he has made more than a few poor choices that has effected his playing ability in 2008 is something that is plain as day.

    If you think the marital/divorce issues he is now dealing with and the loss of his two young daughters is not effecting him, you are naive, stupid or both.

  75. RhapsodyInBlue August 29th, 2008 at 11:48 am

    “Anthony
    August 29th, 2008 at 11:40 am
    “RhapsodyInBlue, I’m so glad you can educate us all with the important “facts” you’ve learned about ARod’s like from the New York tabloids. Congratulations on believing everything you read, I didn’t realize they made your model anymore.”

    Anthony and whose fault is it that Alex’s life is cannon fodder for the NY gossip columns? Whose choice was that?

    Alex needs to grow up and use his head.

  76. Susie Wilson August 29th, 2008 at 11:50 am

    I uderstand the frustration and the right to boo.I boo when I go to games and I do not like arod as our centerpiece.

    But for the love of god, IF YOU WANT TO MAXIMIZE OUR 30 MILLION DOLLAR HEAD CASE, DONT BOO HIM!!! IT JUST MAKES THINGS WORSE!!

    Like it or not we need him.Lets rally around this fragile pansy and make a run at the playoffs!

  77. Yankee2123 August 29th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Next year Arod should bat in the 3 hole, plain and simple. He’s not a cleanup hitter. Bat Matsui or Nady in the cleanup spot.

  78. YankeeDiva August 29th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    RhapsodyInBlue-

    We have no idea what really happened in Alex & Cynthia’s realtionship, Alex hasn’t said a word and Cynthia’s camp backed down from the ‘affair’ with Madonna to an ‘affair of the heart’. Other than that its just guessing on the part of the media….the ones who he barely speaks to so I’m sure the information is 100% accurate.

    I have no doubt that his pending divorce is weighing on him, but that doesn’t make him a head case. How can you say that he’s not a clutch hitter….he was a clutch as could be last year even after the ‘Toronto Scandal’ came out so I doubt his personal issues are stopping his ability to hit the baseball with people on 2nd base. He’s doing fine when they are on 1st and 3rd. He went through similar struggles in 06 and there wasn’t much going on in his personal life that we knew about.

    He’s just struggling that’s all it happens to every player (even the best) but that’s the time when other players on the team need to step it up a notch. Last year the whole team struggled sans Jeter, Posada and Alex in the beginning and they kept the team a float. This year Alex and Jeter struggled and Posada got injured. No one else on the team stepped it up. Abreu, Cano, Giambi, etc… thus they are fighting an uphill battle for a play off spot.

  79. RhapsodyInBlue August 29th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Yankee Diva

    As a sports fans there is nothing worst than waking up during the heart of the pennant season to read about the trials and tribulations of your top star in all the gossip tabloids. Yeah just what we needed.

    This is all due to his behavior and poor choices that he made. Sure he could be be having an off year but there is no doubt in my mind if the Steinbrenners had seen this tempest in the making before they resigned Alex, they would reconsidered. No one at the time knew of his extra carricular activities and viewed as a stable family man and why he was given such a lucrative package.

    If you think the truth is very far from what we know from the paparazzi I don’t know what say to you, other then you are in denial or live a vacuum. He has turned his personal life into a trainwreck during the heart of 2008 baseball season and it has effected his play to what extend is all that is debatable.

  80. YankeeDiva August 29th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    I’m sorry did I miss the conference that Alex held for the tabliods? That is something beyond his control, now its being said that he didn’t have an ‘affair’ with Madonna that the meetings were about religion and friendship. What is he not allowed to have relationships with other people because it may or may not be accurately reported in the news?

    I never said that it was far from the truth… the truth usually lies some where in the middle. How can you say that his personal life is the whole reason for his struggles. Look at Arod now and look at him in 06 he is handling things (even the booing) 10x better. I ask again how come he was able to perform in 07 with his other personal things coming out? Again he struggled in 06 but didn’t have any personal issues in the fore front.

  81. RhapsodyInBlue August 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    And I’ll take another step. In all the years I’ve followed Alex I’ve never seen him look as lost and overmatched at the plate like he has this season.

    Continually swinging at pitches outside the strike zone for strike three, or called out watching the third strike without swinging.

    The other night striking out against Masterson to end the game. This is Masterson a pitcher who lost the last game in which he faced Scranton Wilkes-Barre last season.

    Alex to me is one of the players that SJ44 has said are going through the motions to finish out the season, he has either given up or has other things on his mind, he clearly is not thinking about baseball.

  82. YankeeDiva August 29th, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    Alex looked way more lost at the plate in 06 then he did this year. He had one really bad game ALL season long and then came back the next game with 2 hard hit doubles one that cut the lead in half and the other he ended up scoring. He’s still showing up at the stadium hours before game time preparing for the game at hand. He’s still playing great defense, he’s still running out infield hits and yet you think he’s bagged it in?? Based on what? The fact that he’s striking out? That’s something that is common among sluggers. Did Giambi not have an awful time a couple of games ago and was able to come back and help the team win yesterday is he bagging it in because he had an off night and struggled during the season?

    As for the Masterson agrument is weak. Are you really saying that because a pitcher lost a AAA game LAST year, that a MLB player won’t strike out against him?

  83. Jon G August 29th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    Another one – I stumbled upon this after his crucial 8th inning DP the other night: http://www.tradearod.com/

    My questions with him have less to do with his amazing skills than his influence on clubhouse chemistry…

    Not hitting with runners in scoring position tells me something is up with this team’s chemistry – a psychological thing. Perhaps all the injuries have the team a bit demoralized and that can feed on itself (which is why a “rutt” is typically hard to get out of, though of course always doable if you can do the headwork to refocus positively). Maybe Joba coming back can help – his injury is when things really went south…

  84. Jon August 29th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    “And I’ll take another step. In all the years I’ve followed Alex I’ve never seen him look as lost and overmatched at the plate like he has this season.”

    He definitely has at-bats now and then, but “lost and overmatched”? He is the second best hitter in the AL this year behind Milton Bradley and maybe Carlos Quentin. 307/395/581 with 28 homers and 78 RBI to the tune of a 156 OPS+. If that’s a poor year sign me up I’ll pay him whatever he wants.

  85. Jon G August 29th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Yeah, but when it really matters – with runners in scoring position and late in games – he sucks. I’ve seen a number that this year, he has like 5 RBI in the 8th and 9th innings, whereas last year he had over 30.

    Perhaps already under pressure from his off-field activities, the extra stress just puts him a bit over the top this year.

    Whatever it is, he is just not producing in high leverage situations like with RISP and late in games this year.

    Any of you stats mavens out there
    1) How many of his HR’s has he hit with (a) nobody on, (b), 1-runner on, (c) 2 runners on, and (d) slams.

    2) How many has he hit with (a) with Yanks in lead by >3 runs (already way ahead), (b) with yanks in lead by 2 runs (too little too late)?

    Thanks!

  86. Jon G August 29th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Oops question 2 got cut off, so let’s try this again…

    Any of you stats mavens out there
    1) How many of his HR’s has he hit with (a) nobody on, (b), 1-runner on, (c) 2 runners on, and (d) slams.

    2) How many has he hit with (a) with Yanks in lead by >3 runs (already way ahead), (b) with yanks in lead by 2 runs (too little too late)?

    Thanks!

  87. Jon G August 29th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    And once more – this is a big question for A-Rod…

    2) How many of his 2008 home runs has A-rod hit with (a) with Yanks in lead by more than 3 runs (already way ahead), (b) with yanks in lead by less than 3 runs (breaks game open, (c) with game tied, (d) with Yanks behind by more than 3 runs (ties games or makes close), and (e) with yanks behind by more than 2 runs (too little too late)?

    Thanks!

  88. Jon G August 29th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    And once more – this is a big question for A-Rod… (clearly I’m blog retarded today and need a weekend off from the computer, but here’s the question I’m getting at the way I want it worded)…

    2) How many of his 2008 home runs has A-rod hit with (a) with Yanks in lead by more than 3 runs (already way ahead), (b) with yanks in lead by less than 3 runs (breaks game open, (c) with game tied (gives Yanks the lead!), (d) with Yanks behind by less than 3 runs (ties games or makes close), and ( (e) with yanks behind by more than 3 runs (too little too late)?

    Thanks!

  89. RhapsodyInBlue August 29th, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    YankeeDiva

    If you want to talk about Giambi, that’s another issue altogether, comparing his situation with Alex Rodriquez is different.

    Giambi is an aging player who has seen his best days, Arod on the other hand is still in great shape and should be playing better.

    I guess the big difference between you and I is that you would like to dismiss or make excuses for the poor play of Rodriquez in 2008,fine. I am not so forgiving for someone who is getting paid 27 mil this season and happen to think part of the problem has his own doing.

    I’m done with you and this topic.

  90. YankeeDiva August 29th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    RhapsodyInBlue

    I’m done with you…..

    now my feelings are really hurt. I never said Arod shouldn’t be held accountable for his play and I have never heard him pass off his play. But the fact is that he is not the ONLY player on this team to play poorly and isn’t the only OVERPAID player on the team, hell he isn’t even the captain of the team but he takes on all the blame when the team loses its a TEAM game one player can’t do it all by himself.

    By the way you never answered my question on how struggling equals ‘nut/head case’ for ARod but slump for everyone else… that was my original question.

    2) How many of his 2008 home runs has A-rod hit with
    a) with Yanks in lead by more than 3 runs (already way ahead).5 and we all know our bullpen would never give up more than 3 runs in a game :)
    (b) with yanks in lead by less than 3 runs (breaks game open, 7
    (c) with game tied (gives Yanks the lead!), 6
    (d) with Yanks behind by less than 3 runs (ties games or makes close), 6
    (e) with yanks behind by more than 3 runs (too little too late)? 4, but we all know if you’re down by more than 3 runs the game is over and the extra innings are just for stat padding when Alex gets a hit

  91. Bender August 29th, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    “Yeah, but when it really matters – with runners in scoring position and late in games – he sucks. I’ve seen a number that this year, he has like 5 RBI in the 8th and 9th innings, whereas last year he had over 30.”

    Situational stats are always a little iffy because of the small sample size, but if you head over to baseball-reference.com you can look up all this stuff.

    http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2008

    For 2008:
    With 2 outs, and RISP, A-Rod is hitting .245. This is below average and he should get that up. However, in those situations his on base percentage is a whopping .452. That is exceptional by any measure and is in fact far better than his on base percentage in standard situations. The fact that he is OBP-ing more than 200 points above his batting average means he receives a LOT of walks in those situations, which would suggest he does not see very many good pitches at all in those at-bats. Effectively he is pitched around.

    In Late and Close situations you see a similar effect, he is batting .279 and OBPing .375, and with RISP regardless of outs he is .242/.395. Again he is not seeing many good pitches at all in those at-bads and works the walk when it counts.

  92. RhapsodyInBlue August 29th, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    YankeeDiva
    Your feeling are hurt? Did I make a personal comment?

    The argument about Alex has run it’s course, have a great holiday weekend. Go Yankees!!!!!

  93. Rick B. August 30th, 2008 at 1:53 am

    Don’t care what inn. he drives in runs, they count all the same!!! Just because he makes the most $$$ everyone thinks he’s supposed to hit when they want him to.Ridiculous, he’s one the best players in all around performance in the game. Look at his totals every yr. Best 5 tool player in game. Don’t care what he hits in certain innings, a 2-run double in the 1st. counts the same as the 9th. Never really had a bad yr. $$$ doesn’t make you perform at any given time. 90% of players in BB are over paid!!! None deserve the huge salaries they get!!!But, can we blame them for taking it? He doesn’t make excuses for bad games and make stupid remarks like some in MLB.Remember, he came to NY and moved to 3rd., even though he is/was the better SS. Jeter is still my favorite!!! How anybody can knock that guy is beyond me. Perfect example of a winner with CLASS!!!

  94. Mark August 30th, 2008 at 7:38 am

    Slow news day?

  95. Авиалегкобыстрый автомобиль September 25th, 2008 at 2:54 am

    Автор молодец! Тема почти раскрыта. Приглашаю почитать мою статью о авиалегкобыстром автомобиле будущего

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