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Replay comes on line for Yankees tonight

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 29, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Instant replay starts today for the Yankees. Here is how it works:

If there’s a disputed call on a home run or fan interference (they have termed those “boundary calls”), the crew chief can decide to watch a replay.

Every park has a spot under the stands that holds a locked box. Inside the box are a television and a phone. The crew chief would call MLB’s office in Manhattan, a technician with MLB Advanced Media would show him the replay and a decision would be made. It’s supposed to take 2-3 minutes.

Now here’s where it gets tricky:

There is no red challenge flag like in the NFL. It basically comes down to whether a manager can convince the umpires to watch the replay. There is no limit on replays, either. Once a decision is reached, any further arguing would result in immediate ejection.

Not every team is televised the same way. Those teams that have their own networks (the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Orioles, Cubs, etc.) have more cameras, more angles, etc. MLB has made it clear that all replays must be provided, or serious discipline would follow.

Let’s say the Yankees are playing the Red Sox, feeds from YES and NESN would be watched to find the best angle. No, they would not her what Al Leiter thinks.

Incredibly, there are still 20-30 games a year in some small markets that are not televised. MLB will send at least six cameras and its own production truck to those games.

Two things:

1. There will be an issue at some game and it’ll probably involve the Yankees. Just wait. Rats will chew a cable or something. Maybe Hank will flick a cigarette into the box. Something is bound to happen.

2. Every time there’s a close call at a base in a big game, people will call for the expansion of replay. Bud Selig has said boundary calls will be the extent of it. But can he hold back the tide forever?

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Back later with the lineup. Jays-Yanks tonight, it’ll be Burnett against Pavano.

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122 Responses to “Replay comes on line for Yankees tonight”

  1. Chris August 29th, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    I think they should give each manager one challenge per game. They can challenge any call they want – balls/strikes, home runs, safe/out. If the manager is right, the call is over turned. If he’s wrong, he’s ejected.

    One upside is that you would limit the little hissy fits that managers love to throw…

  2. saucY - automate the strike zones! August 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    it’s a move in the right direction, but i’d probably run it a little differently. you know some manager is going to flip when an umpire tells him “no replay for you!”

    i was under the impression they would have MLB employees monitoring all plays, and communicating with crew chiefs on any boundry or HR call that needed to be reversed. that would also eliminate issues with games being longer due to replays…

  3. Joe from Long Island August 29th, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    I don’t think there should be any limit on the number of times replay is checked. The goal is get the call right, not just once or twice, but every time. Let it be a judgment call of the umpires when to use it, as is being done.

    Not doing it on safe/out calls is going to be tough holding back the tide, as Pete alluded. And the umpires are going to have to put out a lot more effort in following the definition of the strike zone, and not leaving it open to interpretation, or there will be calls for that, too. That would truly be a mess.

  4. Web August 29th, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    Where did that story come from that Pavano was put on waivers?

  5. Jeff NJ: Let Joba Play! August 29th, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    You are so right Pete, eventually an umpire will give in on a non-boundary call after a particularly convincing argument from a manager at a crucial juncture. Initially with instant replay in the NFL, the refs got a bit gunshy of being wrong on a call and would just reply on the replay, look for some of that to happen too.

    I’m all for getting the call right, but the one thing that used to seperate Baseball from all the other sports is that after a play happenned, it was over, no looking for flags on the field or booth reviews. Those simple days are gone.

  6. Laura - Shut up, Fat Lady! August 29th, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    I think they need to expand it to cover plays at home. I bet it gets there next year.

  7. bru August 29th, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    everywhere.pav and ranson were put on waivers.giambi,ponson,pettitte,pudge,betemit,damon,matsui,abraeu should of all been put on also.clean house,sign moose to a one year 11 million dollar contract to be th 4th or 5th starter,get some younger players in,sign an ace and another good pitcher,see if abraeu will take a one year 10-13 million dollar contract if not let him go.

  8. Ray August 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    They should allow to challenge every questionable strike call as well so we don’t have instances like Monday night.

  9. ASH August 29th, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    I really really don’t like instant replay…..next thing you know they will use it to review base plays, then strike zones, and then we won’t have umps….just computers

    Call me old school, but I think people play and people should ump.

  10. Whitey Fraud August 29th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    Al Leiter thinks?

    Who knew?

  11. Big Joe August 29th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    OK…the Jays will be flat knowing management is giving up the fight. They traded Stairs which is not a big loss but it sends a message that they are looking to shed $ and not chasing it. So the Yanks need to come out fast and step on their throats and get the first two games before they have to face Roy Halladay.

  12. Lil Sheba August 29th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    HOME (13)
    Toronto (3)
    Tampa Bay (3)
    White Sox (4)
    Baltimore (3)

    AWAY (16)
    at Seattle (3)
    at Tampa Bay (3)
    at Toronto (3)
    at LA Angels (3)
    at Detroit (1)
    at Boston (3)

    Total games v. teams over .500: 22
    Total games v. teams under .500: 7

  13. bru August 29th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    being put on waivers isn’t as big as it sounds.pavano was put on and is making his start tonight.the yankees are trying to see what teams are interested and if a team claims a player the yankees could just let that player go wich is unlikely if this is their last year on their contract or try to work out a deal/trade with the claiming team.that is one way to get some value back for a player that probably won’t be around next year.another way is to let the player go at the end of the year and collect compensation picks from the team that signs the player but the risk is that i believe the yankees would have to offer each player arbitration and risk the player accepting it like pudge,if the yankees offer him arbitration and he declines the yankees get picks from the team that signs him because they made the effort by showing interest and offering him arbitration but if he accepts they are stuck with him for at least a year minimum at a certain price similar to his salary,i think they have to pay him like 80% of his current salary.

  14. mel August 29th, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    This is weak. I can live with the 10 questionable HR calls a year.

    What about the 3 blown calls on the bases the Yankees see every game?

  15. saucY - automate the strike zones! August 29th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    very true mel. the HR calls have huge impact on games, but the volume of those calls blown is minimal compared to others…

    just read about Stairs. the game will at least be more enjoyable without seeing that lumber jack…

  16. G. Love August 29th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    I think it’s going to be a slippery slope. There definitely will be an outcry and demand when umpires blow calls at the bases, especially 1b and home plate.

    It won’t be long before there is an ump in a booth upstairs overruling the calls during the games.

    You can’t just stick your toe in the water with this stuff and say it only applies to certain calls when TV and the fans constantly see images of umpires blowing even more important calls during the course of the game.

    While I think they can never let replay apply to balls and strikes or check swings (the game would take 8 hours to play), I do think this will be expanded sooner rather than later.

    Is it a good thing? I think it is. I’d rather them get calls right and I think for the most part, the umpires are buffoons who come off like arrogant jerks when they are questioned.

    I think this was a long time coming for these guys and maybe it will spur baseball to reward the umps who don’t blatantly blow calls vs. the one’s who seem to think they are part of the show.

  17. Brandon (There is no more doubt the true captain of this team is Jorge Posada ) August 29th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    sTevE dA kOoKy mEtS fAn telling Franco after surgery he was throwing 91-92 mph, John told Steve I was throwing 88 mph, Steve said no you were throwing 92 I’m telling ya. I mean who would know sTeVe dA kOoK or John Franco ? :lol:

  18. Sea Net August 29th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    Stairs is 3-6 with 2 HRs career vs. Pavano

  19. RayBlay August 29th, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    http://www.philly.com/philly/h.....tairs.html

    this move doesn’t just make my day, or my weekend.. it makes my life!! woo hoo!!
    Blue Jays lineup reminds me of local little league team

  20. MoBoy(aka McLovin) August 29th, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    You can add some replays but not for base plays.This is already a 4 hour game how long can you make it.

  21. Rebecca--Optimist Prime August 29th, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    It’s not a perfect solution but it’s better than what we have.

  22. bru August 29th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    giambi not being put on concerns me because that shows that he might be back next year unless they plan on letting him go and not offer arbitration.he will accept and the yankees will be stuck with him.if he has to come back i would trade matsui and dh him only for a much lower one year incentive laced contract and maybe move posada to first base.i am concerned that posada might not be a good first baseman but i would rather him go to first base than sign tex for 4-7 yrs at 20 million a year.catch him 2 or 3 days a week and bring up cervelli that way you have 3 catchers on the team and not take up another roster spot like they did this year with 3 catchers.you also fix the first base problem without spending a ton of money wich allows you to allocate the money elsewhere like pitching,outfield,infield if cano get’s traded.the yankees have to consider a nice package of cano,hughes and another player/prospect to bring in a frontline pitcher in addition to signing sabathia and or sheets,someone like kashmir,peavey,carmona.they need an ace like sabathia and another good pitcher,fix the center field problem,first base problem and if abraeu goes they need an outfielder.they have all kinds of options,dh posada,nady to first base/right field/left field,posada to first base,trade damon,matsui,cano,move jeter to second base,move arod to shortstop,sign a third baseman like crede,sign just a second baseman to replace cano,move jeter to the outfield or first base and still move arod to short depending on what is available on the fa market but moves need to be made and no stone should be left unturned.if you can trade cano and their is a good third baseman available you have to consider it.i wouldn’t mind trading cano if he brings a frontline starter,moving jeter to second,arod to short and signing crede.he isn’t that much money considering,good defensively and he is like 31 yrs old,they get better because cano should bring pitching help.give crede 2 yrs 20 million.

  23. black Yankee August 29th, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    I think the umpiring has been awful all season. I still do not like this individual arbitrary strike zone that every umpire has. A strike should be a strike regardless of which guy is behind the plate.
    In addition the base calls have been brutal. For everyone, not just the Yankees

  24. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops(My Latest Blog Entry: My Interview With Chad Jennings) August 29th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    Will there be an umpire upstairs, or will they have a monitor on (or near) the field?

  25. murphydog August 29th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    G. Love is more right than he knows.

    They are already reviewing balls and strikes with the QuesTec machine, just not with real-time, in-game impact. If the umpire’s strike zone is way off he hears about it.

    IMO, the instant replay is actually an extension of QuesTec, in two ways. One, like QuesTec, it is a piece of technological enhancement to umpiring. Two, as opposed to QuesTec, IR will have in-game impact.

  26. 86w183 August 29th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    One thing to remember about waivers. I doesn’t eliminate a no-trade clause. Why put Giambi on waivers if he told the team he’s not waiving that clause?

    As for replay. HR calls is a nice start. I like the idea of allowing one challenge per team on other calls, but it certainly can’t be balls and strikes.

  27. For $13 I'll be a Macadamia Nut August 29th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    I am thankful that bru isn’t the Yankee GM.

  28. Brandon (There is no more doubt the true captain of this team is Jorge Posada ) August 29th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    RayBlay they still have Alex Rios, Lyle Overbay and Adam Lind to do the damage vs us. Oh yeh 2 pitchers we can’t touch in Halliday and Burnett. The Jays just like Boston did will win 2 out of 3.

  29. rbj August 29th, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    “Locked box”

    Is Al Gore somehow involved in instant replay?

  30. Brandon (There is no more doubt the true captain of this team is Jorge Posada ) August 29th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    One thing to remember about waivers. I doesn’t eliminate a no-trade clause. Why put Giambi on waivers if he told the team he’s not waiving that clause?

    I’d put the pressure on him and place him on waivers, trade clause or no trade clause

  31. Sea Net August 29th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    I want Pudge to face Farnsworth next week in Detroit with the bases loaded, 2 outs, down by 1 run.

  32. NYY August 29th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    Those talking abt getting CC & Tex & Burnett let’s talk some numbers here

    CC – Rejected 5Years/90 Mil from Indians. He will definetle get more than what Santana got from mets(6 Years 140 Mil). I am think 7 Years 140 mil or 8 Years 160 Mil.

    Tex – Rejected 8 Years/ 140 Mil from Texas. He is a Boras client so he might be in the range of 10 Years/200 mil

    Burnett – If he opts out and becomes a free-agent that means he has rejected last 2 years of 11 Mil each. He might be looking for 5 Years/80 Mil.

    I am not saying Yanks can’t spend money. I am just saying it’s not a good idea to give away such long term deals now a days wheather it is a pitcher or hitter considering that no PEDs nowadays and there is very good chance of players breaking down after 2-3 Years. That’s what worries me.

  33. raymagnetic August 29th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    Bru,

    Is the return key and spacebar broken on your computer?

  34. Brandon (There is no more doubt the true captain of this team is Jorge Posada ) August 29th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    If Joba becomes a BP guy from now to the end of this season, then Cashman should be fired on the spot. He has a tender shoulder yt your going to put him in the pen to throw maximum velocity and torque ? If he can’t start shut him down !

  35. trisha - I am a Sidney supporter and also believe Arod will start to hit. August 29th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    For whatever reason, Burnett is Cy vs. the Yanks. If Pavano can step up tonight and get the job done that would really be huge. I’ve already accepted Pavano back on the team but he could make some big points I think if he figured out a way to keep us going in the right direction. But then I would accept a paroled axe murderer at this point if he could throw strikes and get people out.

    :)

  36. mark007 August 29th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    question about tampering

    even if hank is found guilty of it for mentioning CC and burnett, all he will get is a fine right? it’s not like selig can stop them from signing with us because we tampered, correct?

  37. Patrick â„¢ August 29th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    From the previous thread,

    “Money didn’t keep the Yanks from pursuing Beltran it was the presence of Bernie Williams. Money didn’t keep the Yanks from pursuing Sabathia it was the lack of a power hitting A-list prospect like LaPorta. Igawa cost more than Lilly… Patrick please quit making things up! The Yanks backed off Santana because the cost was money PLUS top prospects.”

    Williams had nothing to do with Beltran. They didn’t get Beltran because they didn’t want to commit 10 years to him, also because they wanted to spend the money on Randy Johnson.

    I didn’t say anything about Sabathia.

    PART of the reason the Yankees didn’t trade for Santana was money. If they had to give up only prospects (not sign an extension) they would have gotten him. So yes, money DID play a part there.

    Lilly did not cost more than Igawa. Igawa’s cost was a $26 million posting fee and a $20 million contract. Lilly cost $40 million over 4 years. The difference is, Lilly’s contract would have included a lot larger hit on luxury tax. In Igawa’s case only 20 million shows up on the payroll, double that shows up for Lilly. Luxury tax is a % of the payroll so Lilly would have incured a lot larger increase in luxury tax. Cashman explain this during the time he signed Igawa, its not exactly new news.

    Yes the Yankees have money but they’ve shown that they are very hesitant to go much over the $200 million mark. In fact they have been cutting payroll and they will be cutting quite a bit this season. Signing Teixeira to an overpriced contract is not a good idea and it can’t be justified by saying “oh the Yankees are rich they can afford to overpay!” Thats the mindset that has done so much damage to the franchise over the past several years.

  38. Joe from Long Island August 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    I know this is serious money that is being thrown around for CC and AJ – 15-20M per year, 5-7 or 8 years. And there’s a lot to be concerned about in terms of their breaking down and injury issues (how many CGs has Milwaukee had CC throw?).

    The thing is, this is going to be the market. If the Yanks don’t pony up, someone else will (LA, Boston, Mets, Angels, maybe the O’s, maybe Nolan Ryan and Texas). In a reality where starting pitching is so important, these guys have the hammer. And their agents intend to use it. Hey, it’s free enterprise. I wish I had their clout.

  39. wsr August 29th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    Question with the replay thing:

    What happens when a coach goes out to try to convince the ump to review a hr call. the ump decides not to review. the replays the broadcasters show have the umps making the wrong call. does anything happen to the ump?

    We’ve seen the umps get increasingly worse, behaviorly, to the point where they’ll keep instigating conflicts, knowing there’s nothing the manager or player can do about it.

  40. For $13 I'll be a Macadamia Nut August 29th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Patrick sorry, but it was about the prospects and the extention that had the Yankees backing off. It wasn’t the money. They wanted to an extention. Just as they lost out on the CC deal during the season because of looking to have a negotiation window with him to sign an extention.

    Cashman didn’t want to give up the higher level prospects for Santana as well as all the cost of the extention.

  41. Patrick â„¢ August 29th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    They didn’t “lose out” on the CC deal. They were never a real contender because they had nothing Cleveland wanted.

    You realize the EXTENSION they would have had to sign Santana to would have cost lots of money right? That was one of several reasons why the Yankees didn’t trade for him. Money and prospects. They would have done one but not both.

  42. DCYank August 29th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    Question, what happens if the umps overturn a blown HR call? Do they make an assumption the outfielder would have caught the ball (Tarasco on Jeter’s) or is it a ground rule double?

  43. David August 29th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    What’s wrong with viewing a close play at a base? Shouldn’t getting the call right be the #1 priority? It will still take less time than a manager’s rant.

    As far as people saying potential Santana/Teixeira/CC deals shouldn’t be made because of money concerns…isn’t thins team building a new temple for themselves from fan dollars? This team spends more than any other, because they make more than any other. They have an obligation to the fans to invest in the team. If they are going to rape out wallets for tickets, we better see a winning team out there for our money.

    Last: Byrd beat the Yankees = Fire Cashman. Has the guy just given up on the season? Has Hank told him not to make any moves? Bad enough he didn’t land Byrd, but he let him go to someone in front of the Yanks in the standings. Same for the Twins claiming Guardado, and even Washburn. Pick up your phone, Brian!

  44. Timothy Clougher August 29th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    Patrick â„¢:

    I agree the spending has cost them over the past few years, but trading prospects has been just as much a problem as spending has been.

    This is the 1yr, I can remember in a while they will have both available, more so with the $$$, they have to spend, let’s just hope it’s wisely..

  45. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops(My Latest Blog Entry: My Interview With Chad Jennings) August 29th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Other than Teixeira, what are the position player addition options for next year? Let’s hear some opinions.

  46. Timothy Clougher August 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    The Yanks couldn’t land CC from Cleveland because of what prospects were available and what cleveland would have wanted, and they would have had to start over this off-season if they couldn’t sign him before free agency.

  47. Timothy Clougher August 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Everybody know’s my thought’s on this.

  48. Don Capone August 29th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    Is this retoactive? Can ARod get that HR back that he crushed over the CF wall back in June?

  49. Sarah Palin August 29th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    We could fill out the box scores now: Burnett with 15 K tonight and 2 hits, 0 runs.

  50. Joe from Long Island August 29th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    I think Cash and the Yanks didn’t go after Paul Byrd is because they are being realistic. This team is a lot more than one journeyman ballplayer away from the playoffs. Why add on his salary for the sake of winning, what 1-2 more meaningless games?

    If Byrd could hit with RISP, then maybe.

  51. murphydog August 29th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    Byrd beat the Yankees = Fire Cashman.

    First of all, anyone can have a good game with some adrenaline in them. Remember Leiter’s return to the Yankees against Boston a couple years back? Leiter was toast before and after that game but he rose to the occasion. No different with Byrd.

    Second, IMO, the fact that the Yankees were beaten by Byrd is more consistent with the woes of the Yankee offense than it is with Byrd having any value to this team.

  52. Joe from Long Island August 29th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    Don’t get me wrong – I love the Yanks and will be rooting for them till the bitter end. It’s just that I think that by any cold, rational, logic – which is what Cash and Co. have to go on, not the emotion of fans like us – it didn’t add up to bring him on.

  53. saucY - automate the strike zones! August 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    just curious, how many folks in recent years have waived their no trade clause in order to be traded from the yankees?

    did Randy Johnson have NTC? he’s the only one that comes to mind. being a Yankee must be great.

  54. Phelps Phan August 29th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    Clay,

    Garrett Atkins, Jorge Cantu, Mike Jacobs, Adam Laroche, maybe Casey Kotchman, Casey Blake

  55. 86w183 August 29th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Patrick— Of course Bernie was the reason they didn’t pursue Beltran. They didn’t want to spend $ 12.5 M on a part time DH which is what he would have been if they signed Beltran. Yes, they decided the money would be better spent on RJ than a part time DH, but without Bernie the Yanks sign Beltran, period.

    The difference with taxes on the Igawa/Lilly contracts was $ 2 M. (Igawa 26 + 20 + 8 = 54. Lilly 40 + 16 = 56). The decision to sign Igawa a decision of poor judgement on the talents of the pitchers involved, not financial.

    You did mention Sabathia. Maybe you didn’t mean to, but you did.

    If you want to make the point that money is always part of every decision, I agree. But it was not the determining factor in any of the instances you cites… not one.

  56. saucY - automate the strike zones! August 29th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    “Question, what happens if the umps overturn a blown HR call? Do they make an assumption the outfielder would have caught the ball (Tarasco on Jeter’s) or is it a ground rule double?”

    i don’t think they could assume anything and that would’ve been a ground rule double…

  57. saucY - automate the strike zones! August 29th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    geez. is everyone off today? or hiding from me in some other thread? :?

  58. Patrick â„¢ August 29th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    86w183,

    They didn’t want to spend $12.6 M on a part time DH? So they didn’t get Beltran because of money? Thats what I said earlier.

    Go back and watch interviews of Cashman when they signed Igawa. He specifically mentions luxury tax as being one of the reasons why they got Igawa rather than Lilly. He basically said the Yankees believed Igawa could do the same job as Lilly but for less money.

    I mentioned Sabathia but I didn’t say anything about his cost and the Yankees tryngn to trade for him. Please read my posts. I never wanted the Yankees to trade for Sabathia, I do want them to sign him.

    Money played a significant part in not getting Beltran, not getting Lilly, not getting Santana. Its simply true, I don’t see the problem here. The Yankees have a limit in the amount they want to spend, Cashman has alluded to that fact SEVERAL times.

  59. Fran August 29th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    If they are going to use replay why is it only for HR calls?What about calls (plays at home, at a base, players running out of the baseline) that may cost a team a game and ultimately the playoffs?
    Why not institute a football like system giving each team a certain number of challenges per game on any type of call?

  60. murphydog August 29th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    Right or wrong, there was also lots of ink on whether Beltran could handle the Bronx spotlight.

  61. Timothy Clougher August 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    Patrick â„¢:

    I believe the money part played a big part in those signings becaue they were already at the 200mill dollar ceiling.

  62. Ray August 29th, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_.....8;c_id=mlb

    The Office of the Commissioner of Baseball announced today that three Minor League players have received 50-game suspensions after each tested positive for a performance-enhancing substance in violation of the Minor League Drug Prevention and Treatment Program.

    • Pitcher Justo Arias of the New York Yankees organization (Dominican Summer League). Arias tested positive for metabolites of Stanozolol.
    • Pitcher Rafael Martinez of the New York Yankees organization (Dominican Summer League). Martinez tested positive for metabolites of Stanozolol.
    • Pitcher Jhon Rodriguez of the Chicago Cubs organization (Dominican Summer League). Rodriguez tested positive for metabolites of Nandrolone.

    The suspensions of Arias, Martinez and Rodriguez will be effective at the start of next season.

  63. NYY August 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    What is Burney’s status? Is he supposed to undergo surgery this offseason?

  64. Timothy Clougher August 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    That’s why this off season should be a good one for the Yanks, Brian finally has some real flexibility…

  65. RhapsodyInBlue August 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    I welcome the move, the technology is there let’s use it.

    It will probably never happen in my lifetime but-
    Is there anything more annoying then the inconsistency between umps on the strike zone?

    One step at a time.

  66. Joe from Long Island August 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    NYY – From what I understand, Brian Bruney does not have to undergo andy surgery this winter. His successful rehab eliminated the need for that.

  67. Brandon (There is no more doubt the true captain of this team is Jorge Posada ) August 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    The Red Sox are eyeing Rockies closer Brian Fuentes, though Ken Rosenthal has said Fuentes cannot be traded this month. Plus, the Rockies still intend to make a playoff run in the weak NL West.

    Lets see if Cash learns the art of the c* * * block

  68. Brandon (There is no more doubt the true captain of this team is Jorge Posada ) August 29th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    P.S. why hasn’t there been an outrage on Joba going into the BP that would hurt his arm or jeopardize his career if they do that.

  69. mel August 29th, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    *crickets*

    One man crusade, Brandon.

  70. Brandon (There is no more doubt the true captain of this team is Jorge Posada ) August 29th, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    One man crusade, Brandon.

    Sad isn’t it mel

  71. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) August 29th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    “I welcome the move, the technology is there let’s use it.

    It will probably never happen in my lifetime but-
    Is there anything more annoying then the inconsistency between umps on the strike zone?

    One step at a time.”

    You know it is annoying, but its been the history of this game. You can’t change something this drastic without basically changing the entire game. If they did that, they couldn’t compare pitchers from the different time periods.

  72. 86w183 August 29th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Well, truth is you can’t really compare pitchers before 1968 to pitchers afterwards. Not really, anyway. Dropping the mound height made a huge difference in the game and so pitchers since ’69 have had a tougher job producing great numbers than pitchers before.

    Conversely it’s why hitting accomplishments pre-’69 are more impressive than those that followed. And that’s before factoring in luxury travel, smaller ballparks and much less foul territory.

  73. Brandon (There is no more doubt the true captain of this team is Jorge Posada ) August 29th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    The NY Giants are going to have to make a tough decision

    The WR depth

    Steve Smith
    Amani Toomer
    Plaxico Burress
    Sinorice Moss
    Mario Manningham
    Brandon London
    Dominek Hixon
    Marcus Monk (he’ll be on the practice squad and will be the Dominek Hixon pick all over again show up somewhere in the middle of the season)

    The RB Depth

    Brandon “The Bid Daddy” Jacobs
    Ahmad “Send me to prison” Bradshaw
    Derrick “Remember me ?” Ward
    Danny Ware

    What to do :?

  74. Patrick â„¢ August 29th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    “P.S. why hasn’t there been an outrage on Joba going into the BP that would hurt his arm or jeopardize his career if they do that.”

    Once it becomes official I will be outraged but I’m still hoping it doesn’t happen.

  75. Brandon (There is no more doubt the true captain of this team is Jorge Posada ) August 29th, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Ewing Jr. is a Knick !

  76. mel August 29th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    All I knows is that if they had the Technology in Babe Ruth’s day, all the fans would be rioting for it.

  77. Anthony August 29th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    The worst missed calls that happen are still the constant miscalls of balls and strikes. Until they do something about that, some people are going to get the benefit of home run calls being correct when that batter might possibly have already struck out, but didn’t due to the umpire’s mistakes.

  78. Doreen August 29th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    saucy -

    I’m in and out – have company coming on Sunday, so the errands won’t wait!!!

    In fact, I’m out again!

    Seeee Yaaaaa! (a la our favorite Michael Kay)

  79. mel August 29th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Click only if you’re a masochist, Brandon:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/.....redictions

  80. Brandon (There is no more doubt the true captain of this team is Jorge Posada ) August 29th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Click only if you’re a masochist, Brandon:

    Sadly true. I think I’m more shocked Frederic Weiss for Patrick Ewing Jr. WTF :lol:

  81. saucY - automate the strike zones! August 29th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    “You know it is annoying, but its been the history of this game. You can’t change something this drastic without basically changing the entire game. If they did that, they couldn’t compare pitchers from the different time periods.”

    you’re right. it will change the game. but IMO, you already can’t compare players from one generation to the next, as much as we like to try. the game is constantly changing. we just ended (hopefully) the steroid era. you can really only realisticly compare a player to the guys he played alongside…

  82. saucY - automate the strike zones! August 29th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    both knicks and nets bottom of the barrel?

    NESPN indeed!

  83. jay-mizzle August 29th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    You can’t check every ball/strike! That’s so ludicrous. Human element is part of every sport; you can’t just get rid of it! Then we’re losing history. =/

    Honestly, it should be like football. Some plays should be automatically checked (like homers); otherwise, the managers should just be able to challenge 2 or 3 plays per game. I don’t think it makes any sense for a strike call on a 1-1 pitch to be overturned. That’s just stupid.

    Keep the human element! But home run calls are so irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. I wouldn’t even say 10 are wrong per year.. maybe like 5. Probably less. Selig is an idiot.

  84. Just Win Baby August 29th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    29-0 and we get in.

    There is a distinct possibility.

  85. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    Damned..you gotta love those Cubs fans for perseverance, knowledge and love of their team after 100 years of suffering. Today they had a 7 year old kid from Logansport, Indiana, throw out the first ball. His name is, (and you can’t make this up, no matter how hard you try) Wrigley Fields.

  86. JB (Blue Jays Fan) August 29th, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    The trade of Matt Stairs was done to allow Travis Snider to come up to the big leagues. This kid (only 20) can rake and has the maturity level of a 35 year old. He has survived personal tragedy.

    http://www.thestar.com/article/308043

    When you read this story, you realize how special this kid is. Must be a thrill for him to make his debut in Yankee stadium (he is actually built for this stadium).

    Look forward to the game tonight!

  87. Phelps Phan August 29th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    “Damned..you gotta love those Cubs fans for perseverance, knowledge and love of their team after 100 years of suffering. Today they had a 7 year old kid from Logansport, Indiana, throw out the first ball. His name is, (and you can’t make this up, no matter how hard you try) Wrigley Fields.”

    lol

  88. JEFF August 29th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    HI GUYS… WHAT’S UP W/ EWING JR. TRADE TALK? DID IT HAPPEN? I CAN’T FIND IT ON WEB….

  89. Rebecca--Optimist Prime August 29th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Wow, the Nets have some work to do but they are not a last placed team.

  90. mel August 29th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    lol, Green Beret.

    Your mention of the Cubs reminded me of something funny I heard this morning.

    ESPN sportscenter update on the radio, “Today’s game features Joe Blanton and Rich Harden. If only Oakland could get that kind of pitching…” haha.

    How’d ya like to be an A’s fan? You trade away all your good pitching and vets. And you bring in Jason Giambi next season.

    Go, Philly, go!

  91. Phelps Phan August 29th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Who did the Nets draft again ? a bunch of big guys right ?

  92. Fredo Corleone August 29th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    “P.S. why hasn’t there been an outrage on Joba going into the BP that would hurt his arm or jeopardize his career if they do that.”

    Because the jury is out on which role is more taxing to the arm. Different medical people have differing opinions.

  93. Fredo Corleone August 29th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    “Wow, the Nets have some work to do but they are not a last placed team.”

    Not as long as the Knicks share a division with them, they aren’t.

  94. mel August 29th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Poor Stewie. Has to work with these guys.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....;fext=.jsp

  95. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    Exactly what harm has video replays have done to football, basketball or hockey? None, other than get more disputed calls correct. That’s the goal. First of all, umpires need to be given and made to use the designated strike zone and taught this in a school set up prior to spring training, each year.

    Home runs are fine…fair or foul is fine. It’s the butchered calls at first and second mostly, along with the ball and strike calls that change from pitch to pitch, depending upon the whims of the home plate umpire, that needs to be fixed. Until Questec or some other system is used and then reviewed after the game, and the umpire screws up on a certain percentage of calls made, and, immediately held responsible, through lost pay, minor league reassignment or after repeated infractions, suspended or fired, nothing will change.

    Right now, the most that might happen is that umpires are privately reprimanded or maybe not picked for post season games. The other thing that needs to be fixed are these delayed ball and strike calls and the showboating of umpires.

  96. Phelps Phan August 29th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    I always figured the bullpen would be more harmful to a pitchers arm.

  97. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    One other thing one replay. Last year, 38% of all disputed calls were overturned. courtesy of ComCast Chicago.

  98. Brandon (There is no more doubt the true captain of this team is Jorge Posada ) August 29th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    I always figured the bullpen would be more harmful to a pitchers arm.

    Exactly because it’s on thing to get strong workload innings but atleast a SP recieves 4 days of rest, the BP doesn’t get that.

  99. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    My error. In the NFL 38% of disputed calls were overturned. That’s is a significant number.

  100. Al from BK(Late August in the final year at Yankee stadium and this team is struggling to keep out of 4th place. Sheesh!) August 29th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    “Incredibly, there are still 20-30 games a year in some small markets that are not televised. MLB will send at least six cameras and its own production truck to those games.”

    How is this true?

  101. Phelps Phan August 29th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    “Exactly because it’s on thing to get strong workload innings but atleast a SP recieves 4 days of rest, the BP doesn’t get that.”

    On top of the constant starting up & then stopping. Like Brad Lidge did at the all star game.

  102. Fredo Corleone August 29th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    “I always figured the bullpen would be more harmful to a pitchers arm.”

    So do many doctors/experts. Problem is, many say the same about starting.

    As it relates to Joba, I’d probably be in favor of not using him at all this year as the Yankees have nothing really to gain from it.

  103. mel August 29th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    Green Beret,

    Do you watch professional tennis? Their replay is awesome. Each player gets X number of challenges which they can keep if they’re correct.

    It becomes a part of the strategy and the game. The spectators get into it, too. Literally takes seconds because it’s all computerized graphics. No video.

  104. fuhgoobagaz August 29th, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    GB7, you are suggesting that people doing jobs be held accountable?!? Oh the horror!

    ;)

  105. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    Mel, if I were stupid enough to follow a team like Oakland, Cinncinati or the Marlins and a lesser extent, the Twins…teams that dismantle the teams after the player salary reaches 20 million dollars, I’d either kill myself or realize that after years of the same crap, I could only blame myself for knowing what was going to happen.

  106. Fredo Corleone August 29th, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    “On top of the constant starting up & then stopping. Like Brad Lidge did at the all star game.”

    That’s just a matter of proper management. As an example, I don’t believe there was one time when Joba got up and started warming in the pen where he wasn’t brought into the game.

  107. Al from BK(Late August in the final year at Yankee stadium and this team is struggling to keep out of 4th place. Sheesh!) August 29th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    “Click only if you’re a masochist, Brandon:

    Sadly true. I think I’m more shocked Frederic Weiss for Patrick Ewing Jr. WTF”

    Gosh the Knicks are such a joke. It hurts my soul whenever I watch them play. Justice is on the way however, Z-bo is allegedly getting traded before seasons start. That is one half of the donut crew out, and believe it or not its progress.

  108. fuhgoobagaz August 29th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Those calls could be game changing moments, which is why they need to get the calls right.

  109. fuhgoobagaz August 29th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Those calls could be game changing moments, which is why they need to get the calls right.

  110. Fredo Corleone August 29th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    “It’s the butchered calls at first and second mostly, along with the ball and strike calls that change from pitch to pitch, depending upon the whims of the home plate umpire, that needs to be fixed.”

    That’s not dramtically different from the issues of pass interference and holding in football. Judgement calls. That’s the stuff that will never be subjected to replay.

  111. Phelps Phan August 29th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    soooo, you think Molina is gonna catch Moose next year if the moose doesnt retire ?

  112. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) August 29th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    I’m not convinced that the bullpen is worse than starting in terms of injury risk. I think pitching itself is an injury risk.

  113. saucY - automate the strike zones! August 29th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    basepath calls are tricky because a lot of calls, cause a play to be dead, and vice-versa…

  114. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    Mel, very seldom do I watch tennis. I quit when the instant replays stopped looking up Anna Kournakova’s skirts.

    Seriously, though, instant replay in tennis is fine and works well because the playing surface is so small and the umpires’ field of focus is so narrow. Sensors and cameras can catch those small areas. In baseball, on the bases, sensors don’t work because you have multiple feet plus the baseball all arriving together. The strikezone is the same thing, the hitter, the ball, the catcher and the bat would all set off the sensors, unless you start putting specialized team chip in so the sensors could tell what was what and by whom.

  115. mel August 29th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Lots of masochists here. But we knew that. Why would we keep following this maddening team?

    Did Pete give us the pitching matchups? Or are they still up in the air?

  116. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    Fuhg, forgive me…I was overcome by sanity.

  117. Brandon (There is no more doubt the true captain of this team is Jorge Posada ) August 29th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    GB there is alway Ivanovich or Sharipova although I think Ana is a minor. :?

  118. S.A.-Can the Yanks win a game? Please? This offense is still offensive. August 29th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    The NY Giants are going to have to make a tough decision

    The WR depth

    Steve Smith
    Amani Toomer
    Plaxico Burress
    Sinorice Moss
    Mario Manningham
    Brandon London
    Dominek Hixon
    Marcus Monk (he’ll be on the practice squad and will be the Dominek Hixon pick all over again show up somewhere in the middle of the season)

    The RB Depth

    Brandon “The Bid Daddy” Jacobs
    Ahmad “Send me to prison” Bradshaw
    Derrick “Remember me ?” Ward
    Danny Ware

    What to do :?

    Say bye to London(I can’t see them getting rid of Moss yet) and I think they will say bye to Droughns and keep Ware

  119. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    Brandon, there was never anything minor about Anna Kournakova. She was major all the way. She may never have one anything, but, women’s tennis and women’s sports owes her a big thank you for bringing in big money advertisers…much like Laura Baugh and Jan Stephenson did for women’s golf in the ’70s.

  120. Brandon (There is no more doubt the true captain of this team is Jorge Posada ) August 29th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    GB I meant Ivanovich :lol:

    SA I agree , I want to keep London but I think Marcus Monk has more upside.

  121. Jonathan August 29th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    Much as I want to keep faith, we just dont have the players. So lets take a look toward next season.

    2009 New York Yankees
    -A monumental year for the Yanks. New stadium after missing the playoffs in ’08 for the first time in 13 years. This is a new era we need a fresh start.

    Front Office: Brian Cashman’s contract is up this season. He has been with us for about 9, 10 years and although we have never won it all with him as gm. I would be reluctant to let him go, he knows the organization too well, and has a plan in place. These ridiculous contracts were more from the steinnbrenners than Cashman, even though he has made some bad moves.
    -Re-sign Cashman 2-3 years

    Coaching Staff: Long and Meachem got to go. They are Yes men and have not contributed to us in a positive way. Lack experience.
    -Hire 2 MLB experienced coaches who have some fire.

    Player Personnel:

    -Buy out Giambi (Fred Flinstone), Let Abreu walk, Let Pavano walk, Let Moose walk, decline arb on Pudge let him walk, Marte arb, Nady arb.
    -Depending on Arbitration and free agent signings we will have 3-8 picks in the first, compensation, and 2nd round.
    -2009 Draft- Focus should be on corner IF/OF positions and power arms (as usual)

    -Trades- Wilson Betemit and Matsui to the SF Giants for Simon Klink 3B S,R and Alexander Hinshaw RP L,L 6-4… We give up a good hitter in Hideki but we free up some room for our young guys. We can not afford to be a team full of DH’s anymore.

    -Free Agent Signings- Re-Sign Andy Pettitte 1 yr. deal (Veteran leadership. Well respected Yankee). Sign C.C. Sabathia 6 yr. deal (A bonafide ace, gives us much needed stability in the rotation) Sign Adam Dunn 4 yr. deal (A lefty power threat we’ve been lacking, underrated defender) Sign Casey Blake 2 yr. deal (Great defender, can play 1B,3B,LF,RF, solid contact hitter, great chemistry guy) Sign Cesar Izturis 1 yr. deal (Great defender up the middle)

    Rotation

    CC
    Wang
    Pettitte
    Joba
    5. Hughes

    Pen

    LRP-Aceves
    MRP-Ramirez
    MRP- Robertson
    MRP-Coke
    MRP- Bruney
    SU-Veras
    SU-Melancon
    CP-MO

    Lineup

    Damon DH (L)
    Jeter SS (R)
    Cano 2B (L)
    A-rod 3B (R)
    Dunn 1B (L)
    Nady RF (R)
    Posada C (S)
    Cabrera CF (S)
    Gardner LF (L)

    Bench- Blake, Molina, Izturis Miranda

    Impact Prospects- Jackson CF, McAllister SP, Cervelli C, Sanchez RP, Corona SS/2B, Pena SS/2B, Betances SP, Montero C, Romine C, Vehionacci 3B, Brackman P, Nova SP, Heredia SP, De La Rosa SP,

  122. TKinDC August 29th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    8O

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