wait, so you’re comparing a mediocre to poor season of Robby Cano to a career of Derek Jeter? cant be what you were trying to do, unless you were kidding.

yeah, and the people who are open minded about trading Robby Cano are the looney ones.

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Where does it say that I was comparing Cano’s off season to Jeter’s career?

I said Jeter is also having an off season on defense and offense do, NYY needs to trade him, too. That makes as much sense as trading Cano.

I also mentioned the two most recent errors that Jeter made, one that cost the game and the one on a DP in the 7th inning in Baltimore that would have if Rodriguez and Cano’s bat hadn’t bailed him out. Sounds like just laziness on Jeter’s part with those errors.

Again, how does that look like comparing one season to a career?

Mike Mussina is the most overrated pitcher in baseball. Has he ever won a big game?

UMMM…guess you missed his four crucial innings in relief of legend Roger Clemens to rescue Game 7 of the ALCS in 2003. If that’s not big, there is no standard for big.

And umm…2001 vs. Oakland.

You don’t remember because we didn’t win the WS either year, but he helped get us there. Do your research next time.

Pitched for a world champion? Won 20 games in a season? Tossed a no-hitter? He’s ALMOST reached each of these milestones, which is why he’ll ALMOST make the Hall of fame. Numbers are nice, and Curt Schilling is a right-wing blowhard, but in their respective primes, who would you give the ball to if you HAD to win a game?

Curt, I should have known it was you.

But this is exactly it. He presses when trying TOO HARD, NOT because he “doesn’t care.”
And of course, there is a language barrier. This is NOT a brash kid, who is cavalier about playing baseball. It’s a kind of gentle kid with immense talent who has put together a couple of impressive seasons before struggling mightily this year, who has not harnessed all of his ability yet.

WHAT’S so hard to grasp, here? We need to develope this rare talent; not give him away so he can win batting titles and gold gloves for someone else: BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.

Can’t believe how hard people are on Cano but as soon as PED goon Giambi hits a few homers you start waving your Stache pom-poms and vote 90 times for him in the All-Star game. Pathetic.

THE discrepancy, I think, is your assumption that he doesn’t “play hard.” That is not what I am seeing. I see some diffidence from time to time, and I see a player who is relying on an efficiency that has always worked for him. MENTAL lapses are bound to occur in a 162 game season; I make mistakes all the time on the job; some days I’m more alert, less tired, than others. I honestly do not see a chronic standard of “soft” play from Robinson Cano.

Cano does not always play hard as evidenced by his lazy, yes LAZY flips of the ball and incredibly passive barerunning.

LAZY is the wrong word. And he is not a great baserunner, granted. He needs to learn to run the bases better. You mention Bernie – Bernie was a very poor baserunner, and unline Cano, he had real speed. I don’t think Bernie was lazy, I think he had poor baserunning instincts. What Cano lacks in instinct – unlike his wonderfully instinctive stick at the plate – he has to learn; he’s 25, life, and learning, are fluid. He can’t learn? He has a fatal “laziness”?? This is what I can’t buy.

He’s not all that quick, either. That’s a PHYSICAL (imagine italics) thing, not a mental disposition.

I don’t need to see Cano become Paul O’Neil and start attacking water coolers, but I would like to see him act like he’s upset by one of his mistakes or hear a comment/see a quote where he accepts some responsibility and/or shows some regret.

AND I see him drop his head in near self-flagellation. If anything, it’s a lack of CONFIDENCE, and a too-acute regret! He needs to shake it off and focus on the next play, not be MIRED in regret, which is his way…he really LACKS arrogance. And I think it would HELP him to grasp how good he really is, because, to a fault, he doesn’t seem to want to own that, so I would say that he has too much HUMILITY and needs to be coached with compassion, not with a whip, as someone here suggested.

But ALL of this is overstated: it’s a bad season for him and it isn’t healthy for him, or anyone trying to help him develope, to bludgeon him with this off year. Work hard, come back next year, finish the season well, continue to hit – which he’s been doing for some time now. Girardi should get him out of the 8-hole and give him some pitches to hit…he’s climbed back to respectability w/no protection whatsover.

However I strongly disagree with your insistence that there’s a racial component to this. I recall guys named Rickey Henderson, Bernie Williams, Rod Carew and Willie Randolph among many others who played with a smooth style, but also always played hard.

Cano does not always play hard as evidenced by his lazy, yes LAZY flips of the ball and incredibly passive barerunning. I don’t need to see Cano become Paul O’Neil and start attacking water coolers, but I would like to see him act like he’s upset by one of his mistakes or hear a comment/see a quote where he accepts some responsibility and/or shows some regret.

That is not to much to ask of or expect from a professional in any walk of life.