Game 139: Yankees at Rays
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YANKEES (74-64)
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
A. Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Nady LF
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
I. Rodriguez C
Pavano RHP
RAYS (84-52)
Iwamura 2B
Upton CF
Pena 1B
Floyd DH
Aybar 3B
Hinske LF
Navarro C
Gross RF
Bartlett SS
Jackson RHP
Carl Pavano ( 2-0, 3.27) vs. the Tampa Bay hitters.
Edwin Jackson (11-8, 3.81) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees have won two straight and four of six. … The Yankees have won five straight road games to improve to 34-33 away from the Bronx. … The Yankees are 8-5 against the Rays with five games remaining.
HERE COMES ALEX: Here is where Alex Rodriguez stands on the career home run list:
9. Harmon Killebrew 573
10. Rafael Palmeiro 569
11. Reginald Martinez Jackson 563
12. Alex Rodriguez 548
MORE ON THE DINGERS: OF A-Rod’s 30 homers this season, 21 have been solo shots and 18 have been when the Yankees were leading or down by four or more runs.
IDLE CHATTER: Carl Pavano will be facing the Rays for the first time at Tropicana Field since 2004 when he was with the Marlins. He is 2-0 for the Yankees. In 11 innings he has allowed 10 hits, 4 runs, 2 walks and struck out 6.
SO FAR, SO GOOD: The Yankees are 26 of 76 (.342) on the trip so far and have scored 20 runs.
PILING UP THE RBI: Jason Giambi has driven in 13 runs in his last 10 games.
MARIANO MOJO: A now well-rested Mariano Rivera (he hasn’t pitched since Friday) has thrown 8.2 scoreless innings in his last six appearances, allowing one hit with one walk and striking out seven.
DAMON DOES IT: Johnny Damon is 10 of his last 22, taking his batting average from .311 to .317.
Back later with some updates.
UPDATE, 5:56 p.m.: Girardi said that he wanted Mike Mussina to get five more starts, not four. That’s good. … Ponson is still starting on Saturday.
UPDATE ON BRIAN CASHMAN, 6:03 p.m.: Brian Cashman would not address questions about whether he wants to return to the Yankees. Hmmm.
This was the most interesting thing he said:
“There’s a time and place. It’s a practice that has been involved here and it applies to me, too. It did before as well as it does now. All that stuff needs to wait until the end and hopefully the end isn’t any time soon. … When the dust settles, conversations will be had. Where they lead, I can’t predict. I’m not about to predict. I don’t know.â€
UPDATE, 6:04 p.m.: Looking for something to read> Here’s an interesting piece here by Joe Posnanski about the importance of a good manager.
UPDATE, 7:12 p.m.: We’re underway in Tampa. Looks like another sparse crowd. The Braves-Marlins drew 11,211 today but that was based on tickets sold. There were fewer than 600 people in the stands.
Expanding to Florida was a bad idea.
UPDATE, 7:20 p.m.: The official scorer gave Abreu a hit in the first inning after initially calling it an error. Bad job. This is a major league baseball game. The shortstop is supposed to make a play on a ball hit at him, no matter how much topspin is on the ball.
UPDATE, 7:36 p.m.: Pudge Rodriguez drove in a run! That was his first RBI not on a solo homer. He now has three for the Yankees.
2-1 Yankees, middle of the second.
UPDATE, 7:56 p.m.: Two smooth plays on the bases there by Bobby Abreu. He took an aggressive turn and hustled to second when Tampa was slow playing the ball in. Then he deftly screened the shortstop on A-Rod’s grounder. The ball skipped past Jason Bartlett and Abreu scored.
3-1 and a chance for more.
UPDATE, 8:03 p.m.: Where was all this when the Yankees needed it in August? They fall out of contention and now they come out blazing.
Meanwhile, the “fans” here at the Trop are getting restless with their boys. Those not clanging cowbells and playing bingo are booing when the Yankees score.
The weirdest part? If the Yankees win tonight, they get Boston to within three games of Tampa.
UPDATE, 8:11 p.m.: OK, mark it down, Yankees win. When Bobby Abreu actually touches a wall while making a catch, that is a certified sign of impending Yankees victory.
Meanwhile, I hope you all remember my story in spring training “Pavano to return late in season, go unbeaten.”
UPDATE, 8:58 p.m.: You have to have the Idle on a short leash here. With all the pitchers available in the bullpen (except Joba, one would think), you can’t risk letting Pavano get in much trouble.
UPDATE, 9:02 p.m.: Edwar with two runners on base? Hmm. Against Cliff Floyd? Hmm. Floyd could well swing through a changeup. But it’s 50-50 he drills one into the stands. Floyd is not the player he once was but he can still crush a bad fastball.
UPDATE, 9:04 p.m.: Robbie Alomar Cano took his eye off the ball there, looking to double the runner of first before catching the liner. Can’t make mistakes like that.
UPDATE, 9:08 p.m.: Hey, Cano learned from his mistake. Big spot for Edwar here.
UPDATE, 9:20 p.m.: Good idea pulling the plug on Edwar. This will be interesting to see what Coke can do.
Meanwhile, the last eight Yankees have gone in order.
UPDATE, 9:39 p.m.: More Phil Coke! He was a starter, after all. Keep in mind that Joba is out tonight.
Girardi should go Bruney/Marte and then Mo to finish. Leave Jose Veras in the pen.
UPDATE, 9:56 p.m.: Nice move by Girardi, getting Floyd out of the game. Now we’ll see Bruney against Zobrist. Nobody warming up, but some skinny guy wearing 42 is stretching.
UPDATE, 10:04 p.m.: Yankee relievers have retired 11 straight. Impressive work. Now Mo for the ninth against the bottom of their order.
UPDATE, 10:20 p.m.: I think this is the first instant review. Of course it involves the Yankees and A-Rod.
It looks like a home run to me.
UPDATE, 10:23 p.m.: Yes, home run. What a shot by A-Rod. He now has 549 in his career, passing Mike Schmidt for 12th place.
Yes, it was the first review under the new rules.
UPDATE, 10:35 p.m.: Good job by the umpires, the proces took only two minutes and 15 seconds. Ironic that it was a blown call on an A-Rod home run earlier this season that helped lead to replay being instituted.
The dinger also gives Mariano another day of rest, which is good.
The BBWAA is sending a pool reporter to talk to the umpires. I’ll let you know what they say later on.
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Chad Jennings
Sam Borden
Josh Thomson
It ain’t over til its over
“Pedroia has become what we all thought Cano would be.
A guy with half Cano’s talent has surpassed him as a player in less than two years.
If that doesn’t motivate Cano, nothing will.
If Cano had Pedroia’s work ethic and intensity, he’s one of the 10 best players in the game.
But, as the old saying goes, not all players are created equal. Some guys get it and some don’t.”
If Cano gave half a crap he would be the best 2B in baseball. Better than Utley, Better than garden gnome.
O.k. let me beat all of you to it and continue the streak.
Why is Giambi batting 5th and not X!!
Pujols is batting .364 with a .469 OBP and a 1.112 OPS.
its almost over
“S.o.S.27(Tina Fey =Sara Palin?)”
I lol’d. Shes not only the first woman VP but also the first naughty librarian VP.
Pete-Pavano faced the Rays Opening Day 2007
“11. Reginald Martinez Jackson 563″
I never knew Reggie had hispanic blood in him.
One note on the Idle Chatter above. Carl Pavano actually faced the Ray’s on opening day in 2007.
Why is Giambi batting 5th and not X!!
Giambi responds
“Joe Girardi, had a rocky first season and may be overmatched by the job.”
Does that mean Torre is overmatched for the Dodgers job as well then Pete?
“Joe Girardi had shown great loyalty to Sidney Ponson. But there does come a point where common sense has to win out.”
Seems like reports are coming out that Aceves might start in place of Ponson. Maybe Girardi just doesn’t want to tell you guys what he’s planning like he shouldn’t need to.
““S.o.S.27(Tina Fey =Sara Palin?)â€
I lol’d. Shes not only the first woman VP but also the first naughty librarian VP.”
Seriously Al. I had to take a double take the day she was announced. I wonder if she will go back to SnL and do a skit on her? Im waiting for Tina uhhh, I mean Sara to do weekend updates today in the convention.
I wonder what will make her more money. 3rd rock or being second in charge of this nation?
Brandon,
I watched 90210 as a kid. But seriously. Next your going to tell me that you watch Greys anatomy and Desperate housewives.
Rule #1 dont admit to watching chick flicks.
“Joe Girardi had shown great loyalty to Sidney Ponson. But there does come a point where common sense has to win out.â€
You mean like Torre had in Sturtze.
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“S.o.S.27(Tina Fey =Sara Palin?)â€
I lol’d. Shes not only the first woman VP but also the first naughty librarian VP.”
She’s involved in an attmept to get a librarian fired scandal…
I watched 90210 as a kid. But seriously. Next your going to tell me that you watch Greys anatomy and Desperate housewives.
Those are two shows I haven’t watched once at all. I was a big 90210 addict, that and Saved By The Bell and my ex. watched alot of the OC/OTH I caught it through habit then just watched on my times when I was bored from work and had time to burn.
So then 12 of his home runs were “clutch”?
Didn’t Sturtze’s arm blow out? Maybe Girardi is planning the same for Ponson, or just waiting for the right time to “throw him under the bus!”
We need to go 17-4 in the next 21.
I love Saved By the Bell
“We need to go 17-4 in the next 21.”
Its better than what i thought. 21 for 21.
“Didn’t Sturtze’s arm blow out? Maybe Girardi is planning the same for Ponson”
No harm. No foul. We are playing with houses money. Hopefully we wont have to find out. Time to get the youngsters in there.
“I love Saved By the Bell”
I loved that pervocative girl from saved by the bell.
Sox tie it up 4-4
Pedroia has 3 hits so far today.
Does anyone really care about where Alex stands on the home run list?
Honestly, the yanks could lose 9-1 but if Alex hits a solo shot I guarantee the guy goes home happy.
“Sox tie it up 4-4″
21 for 21 migh be what we need. It doesnt look like anyone wants to help us.
I loved that pervocative girl from saved by the bell.
Come on you know you know the name
Great job by the Orioles!
Counting on Baltimore to help us at all = fool’s gold.
you mean the same Pedroia that isn’t half as talented as Cano?
Cano can’t lift Pedroia’s jock. Not this year, or any other year for that matter.
Pedroia is going to end up with the MVP award.
I usually wouldn’t pay any attention to a new primetime show like 90210. But Michael from The Wire is in it and that may just be the biggest career 180 in a long time. From a real show with class focused on real issues to being the token black guy in 90210. I guess its not just baseball players who think with their wallet.
Jeff
17-4 would put them at 91-68 before the last 3 game series in Boston, possibly playing for wild card/pennant-then sweep Boston for a 94-68 record!! Not a bad finish!!
I don’t see this game ending well for baltimore
Thinking there is hope that the Yanks have any reason to give a crap about Baltimore or any other team for any other reason = more fools gold.
Were you hoping that the Yanks would reel of twelve or thirteen straight and Boston would falter, Nick?
You’re always good for a laugh.
17-4
hahahahahahahahahah.
What in the name of all that is holy makes you think the 2008 Yankees can go 17-4 in any 22 game set?
mathematically, the yankees are still in it. overly optimistic or not
mathematically, I might win the lottery tonight.
“Joe Girardi had a rocky first season and may be overmatched by the job.â€
When your ace goes down and can’t make it back before the end of the season, and the two kids that the GM stuck you with in your rotation completely failed, and your 2d baseman isn’t putting up the big numbers you were counting on, and your great hitting LF/DH has knee failure… blah, blah, blah.
Look, I’m not offering excuses, just facts. It’s too soon to judge Girardi as skipper. This is not a team like the one that was awaiting “Clueless Joe” Torre when he arrived in the Bronx.
I will say, however, that Joe G really came up short with the baseball media in NYC. Nobody could replace Torre in that area, but Girardi has shown some bad instincts when dealing with the press, IMO. Perhaps he has reasons, but at this point, Joel Sherman tries to bait Girardi in post game press conferences and Pete Abe and plenty of others are tired of his reluctance to confirm what day of the week it is. (I do realize that there are some folks who think the media is the enemy and that Girardi is right to try to confound them. Good luck with that – not a good long term strategy in this town).
To me, Girardi gets a C in his first year, with the understanding that a C is a passing grade. I will up grade him to a C+ if they make the playoffs, but only a C+ because making the playoffs now will require help from other teams.
If they make the playoffs and survive the first round, I’ll go to a B. If they go further, Girardi’s a candidate for sainthood so a grade won’t much matter.
I mean 21
Impressive outing for Jim Miller to keep it tied.
Ray, you thought that they’d get Kotsay home from third didn’t ya?
And mathematically I could win the lottery!
Paulie, I would like to at least pretend that the remaining Yankee games have meaning and I would also like to see the Red Sox home for October. So yuck it up.
Thank God for Jason Varitek! The O’s still hold on thanks to the “Captain”.
“17-4 in any 22 game set?”
17-4 is 21 games.
Nick, right now, all that the Yankees are doing is winning games that help Boston win the division. They’re not going to be the Wildcard. Not when they have so many home games, and you know, a much better team than NY or Tampa. Or Chicago. Or Minny. And probably LAA.
Mel,
I thought when Bay was up there was a good chance, but I didn’t have a lot of optimism with Varitek even though he has been hitting a little better.
Huff was safe at 3rd. would have been 1st and 3rd and no outs.. umps blew another call because they are lazy and arrogant..
“Were you hoping that the Yanks would reel of twelve or thirteen straight and Boston would falter, Nick?”
If theres any team that knows how to choke away a regular season lead it would be boston. I dont see how thats funny. Even last year they blew a big lead and barely hung on to a 2 game lead in the end. With boston being the ones to catch. The impossible becomes possible.
I usually wouldn’t pay any attention to a new primetime show like 90210. But Michael from The Wire is in it and that may just be the biggest career 180 in a long time. From a real show with class focused on real issues to being the token black guy in 90210. I guess its not just baseball players who think with their wallet.
He’s playing the adopted saved kid role on 90210, it is a big risk the series is taking because he is the depicted Brandon Walsh on this show. A show full of white rich teens everywhere and his character is the new kid on the block who is the next star athlete on the campus. You got to feel happy for Tristan he’s only going to become a well known name in the industry.
Yeah, I corrected it. It was a typo on my part, but thanks for being awesome and pointing it out. Any other mistakes you’d like to point out? Maybe I misplaced a random puntuation mark somewhere, or perhaps I used incorrect structure in some of my sentences. Any help in correcting these mistakes is greatly appreciated.
Nick in SF,
I gotta admit I’m wishing the Yanks would just stay out of the Ray’s way. Even if the Sux win the Wild Card they are likely 3 and out without the home field advantage. They’re tough at home but a 4 games below .500 team on the road.
“MORE ON THE DINGERS: OF A-Rod’s 30 homers this season, 21 have been solo shots and 18 have been when the Yankees were leading or down by four or more runs.”
What % of the time have the yankees been leading or down by 4 or more runs 80%?
This is just shoddy reporting pete
and of course, I mean punctuation. I have no idea what a puntuation mark is.
Drive – you should check that record in the last two months. They’re kind of like Matt Holliday numbers – they’re skewed pretty heavily because of a bad start.
SoS,
You’re truly a perv.
It’s not pervocative. Provocative. Jesus Christ. If you’re going to drool, do it correctly.
Everyone is just about .500 on the road.
“Not when they have so many home games, and you know, a much better team than NY or Tampa. Or Chicago. Or Minny. And probably LAA.”
The Sux are 5 games worse than the Rays in the loss column and 6 games worse than the Angels. Only in Red Sux Nation is minus a 6 greater number LOL
Hernandez just got screwed on a called strike 3. Yeah it hit the glove. After it wrapped clear around the plate.
Mathematically I might accidentally find a stray powerball ticket with the winning numbers.
still 4-4 in boston?
Milwaukee is a joke.
I would love to know if any playoff bound team was willing to give up a live body for Pavano prior to 9/1 and Cash passed on it. Does anyone know if he cleared waivers?
Mathematically, I may already be a winner of the sweepstakes entry I recieved in the mail yesterday!
you people and your lotteries
“SoS,
You’re truly a perv.
It’s not pervocative. Provocative. Jesus Christ. If you’re going to drool, do it correctly.”
lol!! Patatoe. Tomatoe. All the men knew who and what i was talking about. That girl was pervocative to say the least.
Besides thats what i have you here for. To remind me how bad my english teacher failed.
How about we cling to the hope that the Red Sox lose THIS GAME and forget about the rest. We have at least another 30 seconds to do that.
Check the time stamp, it was NOT less than 30 seconds. Maybe less than 35.
That didn’t take long Cora to Crisp to Jacoby =game over ugh.
Man, did you see that bounce on the bunt just now? And the O’s throw the game away. Pathetic.
I didn’t say better record. I said a better team. I think Boston is going to be damn near impossible to beat in the playoffs. Who is out there that you are confident can keep that lineup down?
I’m not trying to offer praise where it isn’t due. They’re a good team. They just fought all the way back from four down, and getting ready to take the lead. They beat who they’re supposed to (like NY a week ago and Baltimore now) and compete like players with teams they’re matched up pretty well with.
And they just won. A single and two bunts. Like it should be. Imagine NY winning a game like that. Bottom of the order does what it’s supposed to. Move guys over and lay down bunts.
E-1 they call it, but in any event, they did what good teams do.
Who is Pedro Alverez and Yonder Alanso? Are they the same person?
Hey Pete, I’m thinking hitting a home run when you are down 4 runs is pretty valuable, isn’t it? Hitting home runs when your team is ahead to pad your lead is pretty valuable isn’t it? Will your irrational hatred never abate?
It’s the O’s. Of course its pathetic. Funny, but thats the same thing that Tampa fans were saying about NY a week ago. Maybe it’s not the other team.
wait, alex cora and coco crisp won the sox the game? obviously, that can’t be possible.
Well I guess we’re not making up that game today. Thanks, Birds.
Yankee Trader
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Didn’t Sturtze’s arm blow out? Maybe Girardi is planning the same for Ponson, or just waiting for the right time to “throw him under the bus!â€
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Sturtze came to the Yankees as an overworked and abused no-talent pitcher and people act like the fate of the franchise depended on him. NYY hadn’t had a decent bullpen that was more than 2 deep since 2002.
Wins like this in Boston today are why they are a much better team than we are.
We would have started packing the bags as soon as 4 shutout innings were in the books.
Man, did you see that bounce on the bunt just now? And the O’s throw the game away. Pathetic.
They are built better than us, they have blue chip players we have the bumbble gum card team, super sluggers vs versatility.
another ND for Dice-K. does this guy ever lose?
Paulie,
You dont think Tampa fans enjoyed Papelbum giving up the winning hit and walking off the Stadium mound for the second time this year? WRONG! LOL
This teams has Rasner and Ponson and Pavano pitching 3 times a rotation.
How can they ever get a real winning streak going?
Ugh Cora had a single, then Crisp bunted towards first base to move the runner over and got lucky. It looked like it was going foul, but the ball must’ve hit something to keep it fair (Crisp safe at first, Cora at second). Then Ellsbury bunts and the pitcher throws the game away.
At least we’re not Oriole fans!
how could they let a guy like Cora get a leadoff single. awful.
This is the lineup I want next year
1B – Dunn
2B – Orlando Hudson
3B – ARod
SS – Jeter
LF – Griffey (experience, leadership etc)
CF – Damon
RF – Abreu
C – Posada
DH – Frank Thomas (leadership, winning player)
Drive -
The Yankees got stomped for three days and you bring up that one pitch to Giambi?
Really. The loss is okay as long as Papelbon gives up a hit in a tie game?
Get a grip, guy. 2 of 3 = bad.
Ugh Cora had a single, then Crisp bunted towards first base to move the runner over and got lucky. It looked like it was going foul, but the ball must’ve hit something to keep it fair (Crisp safe at first, Cora at second). Then Ellsbury bunts and the pitcher throws the game away.
And that’s something we can’t do w/ our current roster.
The Yankees have decided that the starting rotation puts too many innings on the young and fragile (if fragile means one that can thrown 100 mph) rotator cuff. To reduce Joba’s workload for the remainder of this season and the start of the next, he has been moved to the bullpen, where he will act as the 8th inning setup man. While I agree that this is the correct spot for Joba to pitch from, I think that Joba and his young arm are too valuable to use this year. I mean, come on Yankees, face it: you are not going to make the playoffs this year. So there’s no reason to put more innings on a young arm like Joba’s.
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Pete- just curious why it matters if we are up/down 4 runs in a game where ARod hits a home run. Look at the game on Monday the Yankees scored 11 in the first three innings and the Tigers came back to within two…meaning no lead is safe until the end of the game. As for when they are down, what’s he suppose to do give up? Or help get the team back into the game?
BTW according to Baseball Reference 19 (63%)of his HRs where with the Yankees up/down 3 or less or tied…. but be the stat sights.
Also should we not take into considerations games like yesterday were he was hitting well overall and one of them happened to be a homerun towards the end?
oh, I forgot my LOL. Sorry.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. BRB 4 more LOLS!!!
NYY Hunter -
You want the Yankees to win, right? Because that lineup you just posted is even older and slower than the one they have now. And they strike out more.
NYY Hunter-
Adding more aging veterans, and a guy who K’s every 4 AB’s, is the last thing the Yankees need.
1B – Dunn
2B – Orlando Hudson
3B – ARod
SS – Jeter
LF – Griffey (experience, leadership etc)- old and injury prone…I’d rather keep Nady.
CF – Damon
RF – Abreu
C – Posada
DH – Frank Thomas (leadership, winning player)- the guy has been known to throw a few tantrums.
Do we know for sure if Posada is going to be able to catch next year?
Yankee Diva,
Pete does whatever he can to shat on A-Rod whenever possible. Most of us have gotten used to it.
1B – Dunn
2B – Orlando Hudson
3B – ARod
SS – Jeter
LF – Griffey (experience, leadership etc)
CF – Damon
RF – Abreu
C – Posada
DH – Frank Thomas (leadership, winning player)
Examples of what we don’t need Adam Dunn all he can do is a solo jack here, a 2 run shot there , K, K, GO w/ basesloaded, you think this team is going to better than the LAA or Twins or the Rays…Wake up this is what’s killing us since 2001.
How and when did Frank Thomas ever become a winning player and a team leader? The Frank Thomas that played for the Pirates, Cubs and Braves of the 1950s and the 63-63 mets, maybe.
The Sox won this game because they kept chipping away, not by trying to hit a HR at every AB. Short fat bald guy (aka Pedroia) hit a HR, then Crisp had a bases-loaded walk, Kotsay knocked in two runs, and then a couple of bunts give them the game.
Anyway, hoping for a win tonight so we don’t fall back in the standings.
“This is the lineup I want next year
1B – Dunn
2B – Orlando Hudson
3B – ARod
SS – Jeter
LF – Griffey (experience, leadership etc)
CF – Damon
RF – Abreu
C – Posada
DH – Frank Thomas (leadership, winning player)”
-Dunn is a K machine
-Hudson is coming off of wrist surgury
-Griffey? Might as well put Giambi in the outfield
-Frank Thomas? The same Thomas that got cut by the Jays? No thanks. We will stick to our 3 man dh rotation. Come to think of it. He is old and past his prime. Maybe.
“Pedroia is going to end up with the MVP award.”
Not if the White Sox make it to the playoffs. Then Quentin gets it. His numbers are huge compared to the midget.
***’62-63 Mets***
Offseason wishlist:
1. No more Giambi.
2. Get rid of Andy(I am not prepared for his offseason circus that he likes to conduct every year).
3. Bring back the Moose. He earned it.
4. Get CC.
5. Get a solid 1B, and no his name doesn’t have to be Teixiera.
6. Explore trade options for IPK, even if you get a role player back its a step up.
7. Explore trade options for Hughes, only if you get a huge return do you pull the trigger however. By “huge return” I mean a good ML pitcher or premier OF option. Given the fact that Phil wont be able to throw 200 innings for another 3 years it might be best to get a pitcher who can.
8. Give Cano a reprieve for this year, but bring in Larry Bowa to replace Meachem.
9. Get rid of Brian Cashman, he gets the most money and cannot put a playoff caliber team on the field.
10. Sign a good set-up guy so Joba can return to the rotation at some point next season without the pen suffering a let-down. By “good set-up guy” I mean Brandon Lyon.
NYY Hunter September 3rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm
This is the lineup I want next year
1B – Dunn
2B – Orlando Hudson
3B – ARod
SS – Jeter
LF – Griffey (experience, leadership etc)
CF – Damon
RF – Abreu
C – Posada
DH – Frank Thomas (leadership, winning player)
NO
Let’s see how badly AJ Burnett wants to be a Yankee.
He’s pitching against the Twins tonight.
Why Frank Thomas? Can’t we coax Juan Gonzalez out of retirement?
Seriously. Why not sign CC and Tex, and every other FA out there? Why not just hold a huge conference at Yankee stadium, let guys write their own contracts, and get them all? Just sign every single one of them.
Seriously. My sister could have made the signings that the Yankees have made the last four years. They need to be more creative than just tossing money at aging players. Can we stop with these fantasy lineups and crazy ideas.
Nobody is going to give dollar for dollar for Cano, so he’s prob going to be here next year. He’s played himself out of that position of holding any value whatsoever. We don’t need a guy who strikes out 3 times a game, no matter how many HR he hits. We don’t need Cano Sr. in Orlando Hudson, and we don’t need a terrible Frank Thomas.
Are you even watching the games?
Lyon has been doing awful lately
“1B – Dunn
2B – Orlando Hudson
3B – ARod
SS – Jeter
LF – Griffey (experience, leadership etc)
CF – Damon
RF – Abreu
C – Posada
DH – Frank Thomas (leadership, winning player)”
Granted Dunn would hit 60 HR’s in the stadium, however he still K’s a bunch and has no defensive skills to speak of.
Griffey is another washed up DH type we got enough of those, ditto Thomas.
AL,
I think you have Andy mixed up with Roger. Andy’s a very low-key guy. You might not like Andy as a pitcher, but he’s a good guy otherwise.
Brewers are frauds. The only time they will beat good teams is when CC is on the mound and pitches CGs. Their bullpen is awful, so is their starting pitching outside of the big 2– even Sheets is a 6 inning pitcher. Their lineup is good so they will beat up on the Pirates and Reds of the world, but not good pitching.
Gagne-Mota-Torres is their late inning relief.
“Let’s see how badly AJ Burnett wants to be a Yankee. He’s pitching against the Twins tonight.”
I’m not convinced that AJ wants to be a Yankee. I think that like most guys, AJ wants to get paid.
I’d like CC on board, but I’m thinking he’s staying in the NL. Burnett may be our second best choice. We have to stay away from Sheets. That guy is an injury just waiting to happen.
Hey! Where’s Julio Franco?
Laura-
So is Burnett.
“Lyon has been doing awful lately”
Thats because Lyon is NOT a closer and the Dbacks have been suing him as one.
*using
Laura,
Haven’t you heard? We go the inside scoops. I’m not being wise either. Look, the Red Sox are already trying to block us.
Did you see my note to you earlier about Christian Garcia?
It’s funny how people always point out to washed up former all-stars and say they provide leadership and experience.
Wasn’t Pudge supposed to add big game experience and leadership too?
Chase Wright to face Wakefield, Jr. Yuck.
“Brewers are frauds. The only time they will beat good teams is when CC is on the mound and pitches CGs. Their bullpen is awful, so is their starting pitching outside of the big 2– even Sheets is a 6 inning pitcher. Their lineup is good so they will beat up on the Pirates and Reds of the world, but not good pitching. Gagne-Mota-Torres is their late inning relief.”
Which is why they will make a first round exit in the playoffs.
Forget whether AJ wants to be a Yankee, let’s see if he can beat at team other than the Yankees.
“Did you see my note to you earlier about Christian Garcia?”
No, I missed it. What did it say?
CC to Yanks.
Burnett to Sox and back with Beckett.
Sheets to a NL west team.
Bank on it.
We need to protect Garcia on the 40 man this off-season. Now that he is seemingly healthy, he can fly through the system, his stuff is off the charts. He’s only 22 as well.
“1. No more Giambi.
2. Get rid of Andy(I am not prepared for his offseason circus that he likes to conduct every year).
3. Bring back the Moose. He earned it.
4. Get CC.
5. Get a solid 1B, and no his name doesn’t have to be Teixiera.
6. Explore trade options for IPK, even if you get a role player back its a step up.
7. Explore trade options for Hughes, only if you get a huge return do you pull the trigger however. By “huge return†I mean a good ML pitcher or premier OF option. Given the fact that Phil wont be able to throw 200 innings for another 3 years it might be best to get a pitcher who can.
8. Give Cano a reprieve for this year, but bring in Larry Bowa to replace Meachem.
9. Get rid of Brian Cashman, he gets the most money and cannot put a playoff caliber team on the field.
10. Sign a good set-up guy so Joba can return to the rotation at some point next season without the pen suffering a let-down. By “good set-up guy†I mean Brandon Lyon.”
Al i agree from 1-7.
Disagree from 8-10.
8(see 7)
9 money coming off the books this year. Lets see how good he is this offseason. I will give him the benifit of the doubt.
Pavano-every team wanted him.
Vasquez- was in retalitation to shcill. A lot of experts thought it was a better move.
Giambi- was the biggest free agent of the year. Who would have predicted he would forget how to hit to all fields.
Scheff- He wanted Guerrero. All the bosses doing.
Abreu-a steal
Marte and x- good p.u.
Santana-too much for him and too late. Rumors had Wang,Kennedy and Cabrera.
10 We might have that guy already. Melancon?
given another nice comeback by the bosox and with moose out of the way
LETS GO RAYS
Red Sox fans are in a no-lose situation tonight. If the yankees win, the Rays’ lead is down to three games. If the Yankees lose, it’s one more nail in the coffin.
Nick,
Pshaw. George is still alive. The only job requirement is that you be a Yankee killer.
Pete,
I agree that Chad’s blog is excellent, but he’s got Phil Hughes and Kei Igawa’s pictures mixed up. Are your matchups correct?
He does report, however, that IPK has 29 strikeouts in his last 3 starts. Nice.
“AL,
I think you have Andy mixed up with Roger. Andy’s a very low-key guy. You might not like Andy as a pitcher, but he’s a good guy otherwise.”
Mel I know that Andy is a good guy any Yankee fan knows that. However I suspect that he has wanted to retire for a few years now and not making the playoffs will make that decision easier. What I’m basically saying is that the Yanks shouldn’t waste time trying to coax Pettitte out of impending retirement they should instead focus on CC.
Aadvark – this entire series was a win-win situation for the Sox. Either the Yanks would be farther out of first (for the Wild Card) or they would gain ground on the Rays.
“Wasn’t Pudge supposed to add big game experience and leadership too?”
Yes and we’re still waiting………..
Laura,
Check out Mike Ashmore’s Trenton blog (link to the right). He has pictures of Garcia and Sanchez. You won’t confuse the two. Garcia could be Sizemore’s twin. Future SP for the All-Star team.
If Hughes and cano are so bad, how would they bring anything good back in a trade…and, don’t quote somebody’s tired line of, “Because another team will think they can fix him with a change of scenery” crap.
Matsui is the logical choice for the 5th spot.
Girardi…loyal to a fault.
“What I’m basically saying is that the Yanks shouldn’t waste time trying to coax Pettitte ”
If the Yankees had finished the season on a high note, that would have been enough for Andy to come back. Now that we are almost dead in the water and he’s struggling, he most certainly will retire.
Andy is a true Yankee. I’ve enjoyed watching him pitch over the years and thank him for his service. However, I won’t be devastated if, at the end of the season, he heads back to Texas to start the next chapter of his life.
with all this saved by the bell talk, i spent my last hour here instead of with the possible 2009 line-ups you guys have been bickering about. and i’ll never get that hour of my life back.
go yanks.
and see you tomorrow
“If Hughes and cano are so bad, how would they bring anything good back in a trade…and, don’t quote somebody’s tired line of, “Because another team will think they can fix him with a change of scenery†crap.”
Now that you took my answer. How about peoples trash is others treasure?
Al,
Sorry. Don’t know how I misinterpreted “his offseason circus that he likes to conduct every year).”
It’s fair to say that you don’t want him because you think he’s washed up, but I think you’d put with an offseason circus if it was Santana, Sabathia, Lackey, or Halladay.
We need an innings eater. I’ll take Pettitte over Livan any day.
mel, which link is it?
“10 We might have that guy already. Melancon?”
I agree. Humberto Sanchez is also coming back.
“given another nice comeback by the bosox and with moose out of the way
LETS GO RAYS”
Successful troll there dude. Nobody is a Tampa fan, MLB is going to lose so much money because they are in the playoffs.
Don’t be so sure that Pettitte will retire. He still wants to pitch in the new Yankee Stadium and he still has much to offer, along with being a second pitching coach on the staff along with Mussina.
saucy,
lol. You should have been looking up her dancing skills.
Chris Russo on the Michael Kay show now
Laura,
The one that says Trenton Thunder – Mike Ashmore.
Just kidding. They’re listed under the Minor League links.
http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com/
mel,
Al has a point. He started doing the Clemens act. ENOUGH!! Its time to turn the page and go outside the box. What we have isnt winning. Still think for a 5th starter we go with Mr. L. No not Livan but Lowe.
Once Livan gets his ERA back below 10.12, he’ll look a lot better!
“Don’t be so sure that Pettitte will retire. ”
Well, we don’t know for sure. He just seems so disappointed with this season that it might be enough to push him down retirement road.
Good for kay. He deserves to have to listen to Russo and have that malignant dwarf drooling abd spitting after every word.
“Al,
Sorry. Don’t know how I misinterpreted “his offseason circus that he likes to conduct every year).â€
It’s fair to say that you don’t want him because you think he’s washed up, but I think you’d put with an offseason circus if it was Santana, Sabathia, Lackey, or Halladay.
We need an innings eater. I’ll take Pettitte over Livan any day.”
When I mentioned the “circus” that he likes to conduct I was referencing this past offseason and the offseason before that when it was “should I stay or should I go” nearly everyday. I remember the quotes like “I’m either retired or a Yankee” and “I’m taking some time I want to see if I’m ready to be a full time dad”. Andy still has the skill to pitch and win games, however I expect a lot of trepidation from him this offseason.
“but I think you’d put with an offseason circus if it was Santana, Sabathia, Lackey, or Halladay.”
Of course I would all of those guys are “in their prime” Aces. Putting Andy in their class is a bit silly.
“Don’t be so sure that Pettitte will retire. He still wants to pitch in the new Yankee Stadium and he still has much to offer, along with being a second pitching coach on the staff along with Mussina.”
GB-You think he will come back even if he bombs this last month? I cant see the Yankees paying him 16mil for that and i think he is a pridefull player that would hang em up. Just the type of guy i see him as.
Livan will be fine… He is a big game innings eater who knows how to win big games. He knows how to pitch and is a gritty, gutty veteran.
If he gets his ERA to around 6.50 before the end of the season, then he will be fine. You can live with that ERA for a gritty innings eater.
“The one that says Trenton Thunder – Mike Ashmore.”
There must be something wrong with my eyes because I didn’t see it.
“Chris Russo on the Michael Kay show now”
Sounds unbearable.
“Chris Russo on the Michael Kay show now”
This is like an IQ low-pressure zone to rival a hurricane.
A couple weeks ago Hank Steinbrenner said something that basically said that the Yankees would do whatever they needed to do in the offseason to be the best.
He said if that meant adding a frontline pitcher then they would. Unless CC really does want to stay in the NL or play on the west coast I see him ending up with the Yankees. I think Hank is saying ahead of time that the Yanks will do whatever they need to do to sign Sabathia.
If the Yankees do sign CC I would guess the Sox would push hard to sign Burnett.
Al,
Now you’re misinterpreting me. I’m saying that your real objection to Andy is his production, not the “circus”. IF Andy was an ace, you’d put up with it.
Laura,
http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com/
ray,
The Sox will go after CC and Burnett because that’s what they do. They try to block the Yankees at every turn.
SOS, he’s had four bad starts in his last starts, but, prior to that he had an ERA below 3.80.
Everyone was saying how he and Mussina were the only ones doing anything and how they were going to each win 20 games and would almost be there except for the offense.
Funny how Russo is sucking up to Kay, I thought they hated eachother. Such a hypocrite.
On the positive side, Francessa is probably steaming listening to his former partner on his rival station LOL
“On the positive side, Francessa is probably steaming listening to his former partner on his rival station LOL”
Yeah, Fatcessa probably upped the diet coke to the 2 liter variety.
Chris Russo on the Michael Kay show now
Listening now. This is just weird to me
mel
In a post earlier today SJ44 said the Yankees should sign both CC and Burnett.
I see the Sox expressing interest in both of them but not seriously wanting to sign both of them.
I read today that there is a Japanese phenom pitcher that the Sox may sign.
I could be way off but I still have a gut feeling that the Yankees sign Sabathia while he is available after this season.
I got it the first time, mel. I was just saying that when you first told me about it, I didn’t see the link on the side.
if Andy is back, it’s got to be for less than 16 million.
If that’s the number, it’s doubtful he is back. He no longer pitches like a 16 million dollar guy.
I think if folks think the team won’t make changes this off-season, they are going to be disappointed.
This team is going to look very different in 2009.
This is actually a very good interview.
If Al From Burger King remembers, Pettitte told the Yankees before the Winter Meetings to make their decisions based on him not returning and, it was during the meetings that they called Pettitte back and talked him into coming back. This was about the same time as the Sanatana debacle was falling apart when Hank Steinbrenner got upset and said Smith was not going to use the Yankees to up the bid.
Okay, sidebar here. 2 real lols.
1. The Lions picked up a guy and his luggage was stolen by teammate Tatum Bell.
2. And 2 NBA KU rookies were caught with mary janes and some Mary Janes in their hotel room at NBA Transition Camp and were promptly kicked out.
“Not if the White Sox make it to the playoffs. Then Quentin gets it. His numbers are huge compared to the midget.”
Quentin has twice as many homers but he only has half as many doubles as Pedroia and 50! less hits. Pedroia also walks more and has more stolen bases.
“Not if the White Sox make it to the playoffs. Then Quentin gets it. His numbers are huge compared to the midget.”
well, Quentin has twice as many homers but he only has half as many doubles as Pedroia and 50! less hits. Pedroia also walks more and has more stolen bases.
Wow, Russo and Kay really getting in-depth, very open.
Mel, those kids should have picked up some girls named Janet and Barbie Everyone knows that girls named Mary Jane are nothing but trouble…and what are the odds that room mates would find girls with the same name? 1000 to 1?
Love to hear Russo and kay every week it seems fun
Yes SJ, Major renavation awaits the Club this winter…..Alot of new mailing addresses ……
“well, Quentin has twice as many homers but he only has half as many doubles as Pedroia and 50! less hits. Pedroia also walks more and has more stolen bases.”
I’d give it to Quentin over the midget. Pedroia didn’t single handedly save Boston’s season. He’s had help from King Wuss Pukelis, Nancy Drew, Lowell (before he was hurt) and Ortiz (after he got healthy). Quentin hasn’t gotten help from anyone other than Dye. Konerko is having a dog of a season. Thome almost the same. Swisher hasn’t been the star they’d hoped he’d be. There’s no way CWS is in first w/o Quentin.
Just my opinion, of course.
mel,
Will the Kansas players be suspended for the start of the nba season?
Before the Sox game today Pedroia was asked who should win the MVP and he said he thought Josh Hamilton should get serious consideration.
“Before the Sox game today Pedroia was asked who should win the MVP and he said he thought Josh Hamilton should get serious consideration.”
That would actually mean something if TEX wasn’t so far back in the standings.
Hamilton will get Comeback Player of the Year. That in itself is quite an accomplishment.
“Before the Sox game today Pedroia was asked who should win the MVP and he said he thought Josh Hamilton should get serious consideration.”
Where was Frank Thomas on that list?
Laura – No guy single handedly saves a season. Except for HRs, I believe Pedroia has better numbers in every category. His defense is also Gold Glove worthy. There’s a good reason why he plays in almost every game of the season.
As much as I hate to say it, if he keeps this up, he has a good shot at MVP.
Would Showalter agree to be our bench coach?
Laura,
I believe that the Yankees were within 2 or 3 games of the Sox in late July. From August 1 on, Pedroia has had some remarkable numbers while several Sox have departed (Manny) or been injured (Lowell, Drew, beckett, Wakefield, Youk … etc.). I don’t know exactly what qualifies as “saving a season,” but Pedroia has stepped up in crunch time. Also, he plays a solid 2d base, and has become the heart of the Sox team.
Quentin’s resume is also impressive, but Pedroia has probably pulled even at this stage of the season for MVP consideration.
When the winter meetings were going on last year, once the Yankees relented and added Hughes to the package offering for Santana, Pettitte called them and said he was coming back.
I am sure the Yankees kept asking him, but he was the one to make the move during the off season which changed what the Yankees were willing to give for Santana.
“As much as I hate to say it, if he keeps this up, he has a good shot at MVP.”
Ugghhh. Ohhhh. I think i threw up a little bit in my mouth.
Here we had the next Carew/batting champion and in the same year he has an off year. Mini me is putting up mvp numbers. Why!!!Why!!
Theo loves getting Yankee killers, I can see him giving Burnett major money. A rotation of Beckett-Burnett-Dice-K-Lester will be unstoppable. Even if we get CC we can’t matchup to that.
Sox have the major advantage in every pitching market because he already has an ace in Beckett. He also has 2 emerging aces in Dice-K and Lester. Both guys are power pitchers under age 30 who can throw 200 innings with an ERA below 3.30– we don’t even have one guy who can have those numbers over 200 innings.
They are not desperate for pitching but can play around in the market and try their luck. Theo can also drive the price up for us because he knows how desperate we are for pitching, while he isin’t. We don’t have an ace. Cashman as a result has to overpay and is at the mercy of the player.
SOS – I’m still figuring out how he manages not to fall over after he swings that bat. I can’t even imagine how he has hit 17 HRs.
Not only are we not going to catch the Red Sox, Pedroia will be MVP. The push for him is all over the airwaves. He’ll be the little media darling pick.
I saw Baltimore winning 4-2 in the 8th and even then I knew Boston would still win it.
For us to pick up 4 games on them before the final series, we can’t lose another game and they have to fall apart, which they haven’t shown they are going to do in awhile.
Makes you even more pissed that all the vets on this team played like dogs and green rookies last month when they needed to show up to stay in the race.
“I am sure the Yankees kept asking him, but he was the one to make the move during the off season which changed what the Yankees were willing to give for Santana.”
Shhhh. Dont say that too loud. Next we’ll have the “Santana should be a Yank” fans blaming the non trade on Pettitte and Cashman.
SoS,
I don’t think so. They have to go to rookie camp again next season. The teams or the league should punish them to send a message to the players and the fans, IMO.
Mario Chalmers (Miami) and Darrell Arthur (Memphis). What a joke. You got the world in your hands and you mess up before you even lace up.
“Theo loves getting Yankee killers”
Does that mean he will go hard after Pavano?
In the previous thread, SJ wrote “A guy with half Cano’s talent has surpassed him as a player in less than two years.”
I think you’re wrong. After watching Pedroia for two years, I think he has more talent than Cano. In fact I think he’s one of the most talented players in all of baseball.
I’ve been watching baseball for over 40 years, and I’ve never seen a player with the level of hand-eye coordination that Pedroia has. He takes mighty hacks at so many pitches, and yet is able to square up the bat to the ball most of the time. And in the field, any ball he gets to is a certain out, because of his quick reflexes and, again, unparalled hand-eye coordination.
I believe that in baseball, hand-eye coordination, is a very important talent to have. Pedroia has it in spades. Those that consider Pedroia a scrappy, hustling over-achiever are underestimating him. For the record, Pedroia is on pace to hit 20 HRs, 90 RBI, 124 Runs Scored, 220 hits, 50 doubles, and finish in the top 4 in total bases. He’ll probably win the Gold Glove, unless Roberts of the O’s gets recognized. And, oh yeah, Pedroia is 18 for 19 in steal attempts.
David Eckstein was/is a scrappy, hustler. Pedroia is a scrappy hustler, with twice the natural talent of David Eckstein.
SJ44,
I think you might be the one thats dissapointed SJ. Sure the Yankees will make some changes but its not going to be a huge turnover like you have been talking about. I think the only major changes will be the absence of Abreu and Giambi. Its also possible that there is a new starting CF but I can see them going with Melky/Gardner for at least half a season. The pitching staff will be almost exactly the same, except for Melancon and hopefully Sabathia. The bench will be different but the bench is always different.
S.o.S.27(Tina Fey=Sara Palin?)
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:02 pm
“Theo loves getting Yankee killersâ€
“Does that mean he will go hard after Pavano?”
S.O.S.
That was uncalled for and will give me nightmares!!!!!
Didnt Ian Kinsler switch college schools so he wouldnt have to play behind rug rat?
Why can’t we find young players like Ellsby, Youkeles, Pedroia, Buchtolez, Lester, Delcarmen, Lowrie etc.?
All we have is overhyped young guys like Hughes, Cano, Kennedy, Robertson etc. And of course we don’t have guys with killer instinct like Pedroia etc.
Why are we so unlucky developing young players? All we have is Joba.
Laura, exactly where is Hamilton coming back from? He was a rookie last year.
Pedroia is like Jeter… a guy who was blessed with good talent, but who turned himself into a top tier player by hard work and dedication. And just off the charts mental makeup and effort.
Whereas Cano is a guy who was blessed with suburb talent to be a top 5 MLB player and he let it waste away.
Pedroia’s a great player and he gets lots of endorsement deals.
-Rogaine
-Gilette
-Ford Edge
*should get lots of endorsement deals if he wins the MVP
We used to get guys like Pedroia and Youk. Nowe we get overrated non gamers like Cano.
“I’ve been watching baseball for over 40 years, and I’ve never seen a player with the level of hand-eye coordination that Pedroia has.”
Now Dustin Pedroia has better hand eye coordination than Pete Rose, Wade Boggs,Hank Aaron,Paul Molitor,George Brett, Tony Gwyn,Rod Carew and Roberto Clemente. They all played in the last 40 years.
Pedroia is a fine player having a great season. But it’s now official. Pedroiamania has gone over the edge.
So, in one off season, Cano has let his talent waste away? Good God, you people need to get a grip on reality.
If you don’t think there will be major changes in 2009 you are out of your minds.
First year in a new stadium with major $’s to spend.
You will see 3 new starters, a new 1b, and a new CF.
Drive,
I think Jensen meant he’s been watching little league for more than 40 years. just kidding.
*”should get lots of endorsement deals if he wins the MVP”
Keebler elf?
Vin, who overhyped them?
Hughes was seen as a #2-3 starter and Kennedy was a bottom rotation starter. Robertson is a middling relief arm who is probably not going to be on the team next year, and Melky is a 4th OF.
Cano had a bad year but he has shown flashes throughout his career and still has an abundance of talent. Joba is an ace, nothing to dispute there.
All depends on expectations. If you expect Melancon to be K-Rod and Jackson to be Carl Crawford, yes you will be disappointed.
Can we not blame the #8 hitter and a middle infielder for the fact that we may win 85 games tops?
That would be like the Tigers blaming Polanco for their season.
It all goes to starting pitching.
This season was shot when they held onto three prospects instead of getting Santana. Then compounded the mistake by not bringing in a front line pitcher.
patrick,
Friendly wager. At least 10 new faces on the 2009 Opening Day Roster. That would represent a 40% roster turnover. That is a lot of turnover.
I would also say there is little chance of a Melky/Gardner CF platoon next year.
“That was uncalled for and will give me nightmares!!!!!”
Sorry ray. We’ve had that nightmare going on 4 years now.
And it goes a little like this. Hes on the bench and gets his glove from next to him. about to get up(fans thinking this time he will earn his money)and changes his mind,sits back down every time. Fans having to sit back down sick to thier stomach. The nightmare never changes. Over and over again. Thank god its almost over.
Can we get this blog back to talking Yankee baseball now!! Too much sox talk for a day.
“Vin, who overhyped them?”
You mean everyone who said Hughes was an ace, the #1 prospect in baseball and a future Clemens? No one??
The same guys who said Kennedy was a young Moose with impeccable location and unmatched makeup and smarts?? No one said that??
Face it. The Yanks’ prospects have been overrated forever.
-Rogaine
-Gilette
-Ford Edge
-Keebler Cookies
-Green Giant vegetables
-Juice boxes
-roles in Austin Power and Bad Santa movies
“*should get lots of endorsement deals if he wins the MVP”
Maybe a chance to act. I here they are working on a pre-qual of the lord of the rings. “The Hobbit”.
And, star in the new movie, Ants II, with the lead role.
Patrick –
‘Abreu’
‘Giambi’ (at least as the 1B)
‘Bench’
‘Sabathia’
I think probably acquire another OF to replace Melky, Pettitte is probably gone, and there’s something to at least think about at catcher.
That’s anywhere from 2-4 guys in the starting lineup (most likely 1/3 of it) the bench (probably all of it, except for Matsui. He’ll just be used as DH instead of Giambi) plus a couple starting pitchers going either way. Sure sounds like more than a few small changes to me. And that’s if they keep Cano .. something I hope they do because I think he can still raise his level of play.
Wang coming back doesn’t actually count as a change (because he was here already) but that’ll be almost like acquiring a top of the rotation pitcher so it’ll feel like a change.
Most of the bullpen falls into the same category as the bench – usually changing anyways. Significant moves would be Joba going from ‘pen to rotation again (not really a change) and, as you said, giving Melancon his shot.
SJ44 is wrong almost 95% of the time but about next years roster he is right. No chance they come back with this staff or this aging lineup.
They have too much $ to spend and too much incentive.
When Melancon isn’t Rivera II will we all take a deep breath and let the kid grow and be patient?
denny i agree 100%. yankees have overhyped their prospects. they called hughes the baby rocket and said he was mark prior light, he is closer to pavano than clemens.
he is trade bait this offseason for a young hitter
kennedy is not a good pitcher but he does give great postgame quotes.
“I would also say there is little chance of a Melky/Gardner CF platoon next year.”
Sj-4th outfielders? Minors? Traded? Whos in center?
Actually, Pedroia is also the choice for the lead in the movie, “The Life and Times Of Paul Reubens”.
Everybody will be on the block this off-season from the majors and minors.
Nobody is safe this off-season except Joba, Rivera, Jeter, Arod, and Chris Britton.
“-Rogaine
-Gilette
-Ford Edge
-Keebler Cookies
-Green Giant vegetables
-Juice boxes
-roles in Austin Power and Bad Santa movies”
Charlie and the chocolate factory 2? umpa lumpas
The new version of “Fantasy Island”? Di Plain!!Di Plain!!
>>Now Dustin Pedroia has better hand eye coordination than Pete Rose, Wade Boggs,Hank Aaron,Paul Molitor,George Brett, Tony Gwyn,Rod Carew and Roberto Clemente. They all played in the last 40 years.
SJ – 10 new faces?
1 – 1B
2 – CF
3 – RF
4 – Starting P
5 – A utility infielder
6 – Melancon
7 – A third catcher
8,9,10 – 3 Pitchers (either 2 more relievers and another starter, or just 3 more relievers)
Maybe …. I guess I could see it. Were you thinking along those lines?
If there aren’t 10 new players on opening day, can we count a new third base coach towards the 10?
The remake of Howard the Duck. Im starting to like this game.
“Now Dustin Pedroia has better hand eye coordination than Pete Rose, Wade Boggs,Hank Aaron,Paul Molitor,George Brett, Tony Gwyn,Rod Carew and Roberto Clemente. They all played in the last 40 years.”
And all those players had better bodies than Pedroia, but at 5′ 8″ he’s on pace to finish with a slugging average over .500 and 330-340 total bases this year.
How can such a small athlete have such production? Superior hand-eye coordination that allows him to take mighty hacks, but still square up.
“Nobody is safe this off-season except Joba, Rivera, Jeter, Arod, and Chris Britton.”
You must not be counting minor leaguers. Igawa is safe.
He’s 5′7″ if that. How’s his bi bim bap (yum), I mean BABIP?
Girardi seems to like average players like Farnsworth, Betemit, Rasner, Ponson etc.
Mel, I believe that Freddie Patek towered over him.
Burnett will go to the Sux, bank on it. They’ll re-unite him up with his buddy Beckett, plus he kills the yanks so Theo will go after him hard.
Frank Thomas a leader & winner? when, where? The guy was such a cancer in the White Sox clubhouse the GM cut him.
There are lots of good players who are diminutive in stature. But they’re not drafted because the MLB teams have a protype they like to stick with. Of course there are always the exceptions for the stand out players like Pedroia and Brian Roberts.
““-Rogaine
-Gilette
-Ford Edge
-Keebler Cookies
-Green Giant vegetables
-Juice boxes
-roles in Austin Power and Bad Santa moviesâ€
Charlie and the chocolate factory 2? umpa lumpas”
“but at 5′ 8″
Uhhh forget all the short jokes i posted. Im a little over 5′8″. Over with shoes on. Thats not short. Average at worst. My bad.
Knicks — calling those four average is a mighty compliment to each of them.
Dave D –
I would add Nady, Posada, Mussina (yeah wow) Molina (considering him as a backup) and Wang to that list.
You’re kidding about Britton right?
I think Hughes may still be on the list too, but you never know.
With Posada’s arm going down the tubes after his contract was signed, maybe he’d otherwise be considered expendable now. But I’d think there’s a no-trade issue to consider in his contract.
lol. Frank Thomas was let go by the Jays, too. How can you screw up a screwed up clubhouse like that?
“He’s 5′7″ if that. How’s his bi bim bap (yum), I mean BABIP?”
Whew!! Thanks mel. The jokes are back on!!
SoS -
Igawa is safe because nobody will take him, so that doesn’t count.
SoS,
Yup. I miss the Wanger and his BBBAP.
Jackie, Jenson…are you still afraid of flying? Even you hit homers in that band box, so no reason that The Dwarf can’t hit chip shots off of that wall. just ask Bucky Dent how easy it is.
We do need to add some leadership to the roster.
Are there any leaders on the FA market?
NYY Hunter wrote “Pedroia is like Jeter… a guy who was blessed with good talent, but who turned himself into a top tier player by hard work and dedication. And just off the charts mental makeup and effort.”
I think Jeter is a good comp, except, of course, Pedroia only has two years in the majors, and longevity is what will get Jeter to the HOF.
But, if Pedroia keeps up his year-long pace over the last 23 games, he’ll end up with a season that is the equal or better of any of Jeter’s 5 best years, except Jeter’s extraordinary 1999, which he posted in his 4th full year.
And, to pound home the point, Jeter has a much more powerful, athletic frame than Pedroia. DP does it with hand-eye coordination superior to any I’ve seen. If he wasn’t such a runt, he’d be ARod with a heart the size of a lion.
QUICK SEATING QUESTION:
I’ve been to the stadium a few times, but never in the bleachers or upper decks.
My choice is between the LEFT field bleachers, or upperdeck behind home plate and upper deck down 1/2 way down the 3rd base side.
Unfortunately, I can’t get the RF bleachers
Any advice?
Tony Gwynn is 5′8. In diameter, that is.
Steve,
Upper deck behind home plate hands down. I have season tix in Tier 2.
Hey GreenBeret,
Just a gentle reminder….not all Pedroia’s home runs are at Fenway. He hit a grand slam in the last visit to New York against the Yankees.
Is there any worse atmosphere for a game than Tropicana Field?
Green Beret, shows his ignorance when he wrote “Jackie, Jenson…are you still afraid of flying? Even you hit homers in that band box, so no reason that The Dwarf can’t hit chip shots off of that wall. just ask Bucky Dent how easy it is.”
Take a look at Dustin Pedroia’s home/away splits this year, before you open your mouth and show big hole in head.
On the road this year, Pedroia is slugging .487, batting .320, and has hit 10 of his 17 homers. Pedroia also had a 29 game road-hitting streak .
ray,
Get out! You can come back later and gloat only if the Yankees win today.
Drive
Thanks a lot!!
Wow. A reference to Posnanski, trying to prove Girardi is a terrible manager. I didn’t see this coming at all.
“And, to pound home the point, Jeter has a much more powerful, athletic frame than Pedroia. DP does it with hand-eye coordination superior to any I’ve seen. If he wasn’t such a runt, he’d be ARod with a heart the size of a lion.”
I smell a man crush here.
We get it. Pedroia’s good. A hand-eye god.
A lot of us respect Pedroia’s game and have said so. That being said what is with the Pedroia propoganda? Is he running for the president of Red Sox Nation or something.
Once the game starts can we put a moratorium on the Pedroia talk?
Mel….I will be out shortly…lol. Some folks get real upset when a Sox fan posts during the Yankee games so I try not to do that.
Are you concerned at all with the Pat’s preseason games even though Brady wasn’t playing?
Wow, NFL starts tomorrow
QUICK SEATING QUESTION:
I 2nd the upper deck behind the plate. Left field bleachers are in no mans land.
Jackie Jensen,
“DP” as you call him has an extremely long swing. Eventually pitchers will bust him high and inside and your future HOFer will become the next Bobby Crosby.
The kid is having a great year, built largely on an insane August/Sept. He’ll never be as good as Pete Rose or the others I mentioned because they all had short,compact swings that held up as they aged.
ray,
Hoping and praying he’s playing ‘possum. Can’t stand the thought of the 2 Matts or the razzing I’ll get here.
They shoulda grabbed Colt Brennan…
Steve
Unless you’re in the premium seats immediately around the infield or within 10-15 rows of the foul lines, IMO the best ‘cheap’ seats in the house are below the horizontal aisle of the upper deck. Lower half of that lower half of the upper deck, right behind either dugout to be specific.
Loge level & the back half of field level aren’t as spectacular as you’d expect. I’d rather be upstairs where I just described the seasts.
As the stands draw closer to the foul lines on either side, and as you start to sit as deep as the OFs are positioned, you begin to lose something in the lower deck. Bleachers and behind the OF wall can be fun, but it’s better to really see the game if you’re closer to the infield.
Pedroia may be the best all-round player in the AL. There is nothing he can’t do on the baseball field.
Someone defending girardi wrote:
“When your ace goes down and can’t make it back before the end of the season … Look, I’m not offering excuses, just facts. It’s too soon to judge Girardi as skipper. This is not a team like the one that was awaiting “Clueless Joe†Torre when he arrived in the Bronx.”
Um, Girardi inherited a much better team than Torre did in 1996. Your excuse of Girardi lost his ace – David Cone made only 11 starts in 96, Wang 15. Torre lost his ace as well.
He got the most out of a journeyman at catcher – Girardi – not a Yankee superstar coming off a career year (Posada). Girardi has up and coming star at second who goes in tank under his guidance. Torre got the most out of a journeyman – M. Duncan.
Shortstop – EVERYONE in Yankee hierarchy wanted to send Jeter to the minors in spring trainer, and trade Rivera for a vet SS. It was Torre that prevented it – read Joel Sherman’s book on it.
3B- Girardi has alleged best player in game. Torre platooned washed up vets Boggs & C. Hayes.
OF – Bernie and O’Neill were coming into their own as stars, not established like Abreu and Damon. Torre also made due with declining stars (Straw, Raines), and retreads (G. Williams).
Pettitte had a great year but no one was predicting 21 W’s for him in spring training. and all of you who rip Torre’s handling of the pen his last few years, Nelson and Rivera blossomed into steady relievers under him. pre-96, no one feared those two, who became key players. Torre also had aging vets in rotation – Key, Rogers, gooden.
And they payroll gap was nowhere what it is today. Yanks No. 1 but Orioles only 4M behind, Tribe only 7M behind.
Girardi may yet turn out to be a good manager but don’t kid yourself that torre inherited a much better team in 1996 than Girardi took over in 2008. it just is not true.
gwynn, the second athlete in history to be larger horizontaly than he was vertically. Smokey Burgess was the first in the 50s and early 60s Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cinncy and the White Sox.
mel,
“Once the game starts can we put a moratorium on the Pedroia talk?”
I second the motion and raise you 10 minutes:)
“If he wasn’t such a runt, he’d be ARod with a heart the size of a lion”
Why not just have Mr. Lionheart on the Giants to replace Osi? Can we be done with all this talk about mighty mouse!! Go to you sox site and drool over him. Let us get back to being couch gm’s. Thank you.
With the way some people here go on and on about how “great” the Red Sox players are, why don’t they just go and root for them?
Enough of annointing any player with two years in as anything. Lets see how they are in 5-6 years of service before that.
//Here we had the next Carew/batting champion and in the same year he has an off year. Mini me is putting up mvp numbers. Why!!!Why!!//
Because he plays his behind off, each and every moment of the game.
Stupendous talent + all-out hustle and desire = incredible ballplayer.
Cano has the talent, and little else.
“There’s a time and place. It’s a practice that has been involved here and it applies to me, too. It did before as well as it does now. All that stuff needs to wait until the end and hopefully the end isn’t any time soon. … When the dust settles, conversations will be had. Where they lead, I can’t predict. I’m not about to predict. I don’t know.â€
Ahem, I think that someone said this in the Cashman thread. (That would be me)
Pedroia mentioned in the same breath as Jeter, you guys are clowns.. Yeah get back to me in about 6 years…
Pedroia has 26 HR’s for his career..
some jeter years clowns are;
349, 329,343,339, and on and on.. rbi’s of 102,97, 84..
Pedroia has 24 career SB’s Jeter has 274.. Jeter has 2500 and change hits pedroia has 370. By the age of 25 Jeter had over 800 hits..
you guys are clueless.
Jeter plays ss and pedroia has no range at 2nd..
fools…
Igawa vs. Colon is the pitching matchup for game 3 of the AAA playoffs between Scranton and Pawtucket.
“gwynn, the second athlete in history to be larger horizontaly than he was vertically. Smokey Burgess was the first in the 50s and early 60s Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cinncy and the White Sox.”
GB-Can we put Kirby Puckett on that list?
Whats with all the Pedroia love? The guy’s irritating. The idea of using a gerbil for pleasure is a concept even more shocking to him than it is to the rest of us, because he’s a lot like a gerbil himself.
Little bit-o-luck!
Pedroia cant hold Jeters jock. He has him beat on the field and off. Can Dusty get the women Jete has? Didnt think so. Hopefully that ends that comparison forever!!
From the ‘Don’t think no one noticed’ department: While announcing the Yankees lineup, including the $39.95 million man, Carl Pavano, the song choice was Dire Straits’ ‘Money For Nothing.’
http://bombersbeat.mlblogs.com/
Let’s get a win today. Let’s go Carl
Ray, I know what Pedroia’s done at home and on the road…just ragging on good ol’ Jackie, who most likely has no idea who Jenson was or why he retired.
Pedroia’s a very good player who’s having a year, similar to Cano’s second season. When people start throwing thew word “great” around for every player on their favorite team, I’ll question or rag them with facts. Another fact is this, as somebody has mentioned….with that long, uppercut swing, they’ll catch up to him with fastballs up and in and he’ll start missing or popping up. Guys like Winfield and Sheffield might get away with that, but, little guys and guys without the super human strength can’t. Yastrzemski had that long swing and he had to change it because they caught up to him in 1964.
He’ll make a heck of a case, but I think Quentin is the pick for MVP if CWS make the postseason.
In addition to his talent, the thing I respect about Pedroia most is that he plays with a chip on his shoulder, like he believes opposing players/fans/teammates, etc don’t think he belongs, and he’s out to prove them wrong every chance he gets.
That’s what Cano lacks–insatiable drive. Sure he’s got great talent, but it seems he plays like he takes for granted the hits will fall and the catches will be made, and he loses concentration so damn easily.
I still can’t fathom why the Yankees don’t think Wright or Hughes’ development wouldn’t benefit them as pitchers, and the Yankees as a team, from starting either in lieu of Ponson.
The Yankees gave Hughes a spot in the rotation in Spring Training and later ascribed his struggles to injury.
Now, he’s recovered and they’ve withdrawn it, for no reason they care to disclose.
Wouldn’t his seasoning improve from a few starts in the Show in ‘08, if they plan to afford him another opportunity in ‘09?
When the Yankees still had a chance to have a winning season they entrusted a spot in the rotation to a 21-yr-old kid. When the Yankees have been all but eliminated they no longer are willing to entrust him with the spot or to invest in his development. Figure that logic.
Ian Kennedy gets three chances; Phil Hughes, one?
I love it when certain posters join the debate well after its over for the sole reason that they missed the opportunity to insult everyone while it was taking place.
SoS,
We got scolded for teasing Pedroia here because he’s their Jeter. So I told the Sock fan, “relax you’ve been teasing Jeter for years”
Can you imagine it?
“That guy hooked up with Mariah. What a bum”
“He did that girly flip thing at home plate. Out of position again.”
“He dived into the stands. Such a show off”
Thats a harsh error call on Bartlett.
“Pedroia cant hold Jeters jock.”
Whether Pedrois may secretly wish he could hold Jeter’s jock is pure speculation, but I’d wager he couldn’t fill Jeter’s jock.
Pedroia may be the best all-round player in the AL. There is nothing he can’t do on the baseball field.
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Pedroia has hotties all over him . . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_bqXMO5aY
Meanwhile . . . clutch again from A-Rod
Any innuendo regarding Pedroia holding Jeter’s jock was COMPLETELY intended.
As far as I know Yankee fans haven’t bothered to show up to Yankee Stadium with “Pedroia blows” shirts either, lol.
“There is nothing he can’t do on the baseball field.”
See over 2nd base? Swing from the dugout roof without a boost up?
hahaha the Rays have the wrong starter on the scoreboard.
Stupid.
All of those years of yammering about how great Garciaparra was and he’s all but disappeared from the major league scene after 7 years.
mel,
You can add Ramon(backwards)had more heart than Jeter.
“Expanding to Florida was a bad idea.”
The Rays would do much better if their stadium was in the right place.
Damon’s a joke in CF.
Damon made a nice try, but, that ball could have been caught. It clanked off of the side of his glove.
Hmm Carl, you don’t get to be giving guys who have been playing and playing hurt for the entire time of your tenure with the Yankees looks like that.
/end snarl
gona be a fun winter.. if the cash dont comeback who will replace him
I appreciate the traffic and all, but what is with the discussion on Dustin Pedroia?
Oh boy, let’s go, Carl. One more out.
Good job by Damon, playing that popup into a double, allowing this run to score. This team is so amazing it finds ways to lose like no other..
Thanks Johnny! It was a nice try, but he hesitated at first and lost a half step, but it did glance off his glove.
I have to disagree with you on the Abreu comment Pete…..
that ball was smoked, and you can’t expect a shortstop to make that play everytime.
Damon cannot play CF.. The lack of athleticism on this team is appparent…
score should be 0 – 0…
Oh no, look at that. Had Damon played that ball on a hop, there was going to be a zero next to home team. But why would we want to do that?
How does someone get away with a name like: “A-Rod sucks, Girardi blows”? I thought Pete wanted to keep this board clean.
its one run man….take it easy
I guess people are talking about Pedroia because they got tired of reading how unclutch and how many useless home runs Rodriguez hits.
“I appreciate the traffic and all, but what is with the discussion on Dustin Pedroia?”
Pete,
You didnt hear. Pedroia is the next bo jackson. Hes replacing osi while holding jeters jock. The next little/big thing.
Is this name better? Want a band-aid for your feelings?
Peter, you missed the motion and second…no more Pedey talk once the game begins!
This “MVP for Pedroia” talk is making me vomit profusely !!
Cano over Pedroia in a heartbeat if he ever fulfills his potential.
That Nady guy is quite ballplayer. He’s a keeper for this team hopefully.
Woot! Someone else’s center fielder has a ball drop out of his glove.
Yanks blooping their way to success.
2-out RISP hit for Alex.
Damon is so unclutch.
NJ in Tampa
I think we both would go a lot farther to get to Yankee Stadium than to get to Cow Bell Arena.
i miss anti-mussin*!
Whoa! runs!
woops confused the Rodriguezes.
“Damon is so unclutch.”
i hope thats sarcastic
Thank God Jeter took that ball. Alex is allergic to catching pop ups.
Laura
He’s been a litle better this year but the degree of difficulty on that one made it Jeter’s all the way.
Little Pudge is alright huh.
Isnt that ball that Jeter caught always the SS play. Dont think that play had anything to do with A-Rod well documented trouble with pop ups.
Dare I say it??? That double by Cano was absolutley Pedroian!!! Yipee!!! Can we nominate Robbie for MVP now??? Chant it…MVP MVP MVP MVP
Pete obviously didnt get the memo that Pedroia is the best player in the last 40 years. We bow to the little dust mite.
I wish it wasn’t well documented, lol. It just gives MK the excuse to have one of his patented discussions about it.
that’d be funny if it weren’t so sad
Don’t know if thos was brought up. Breaking news on espn news has cashman saying joba to the pen next year. Apologize if already posted.
Go Pavano!
In other news. The Oklahoma City NBA team will be called THUNDER. I like it better than the 4 previous names. Sounds tough.
Peter Abraham asked, “I appreciate the traffic and all, but what is with the discussion on Dustin Pedroia?”
Just correcting misperceptions about Pedroia. First, it was suggested that Pedroia has half the talent of Cano and does it on grit and work ethic. Then it was suggested that Pedroia’s numbers were inflated due to Fenway, when, in fact, his home/road splits are close to even. Finally, I see Pedroia’s swing described as “a long uppercut swing.” Wrong again. I don’t think they’ve ever watched Pedroia’s approach at the plate.
great hustle by Abreu turning a single into a double.
There – Alex came through that time
Taking advantage of the turf by Rodriguez.
Hey, I’m coming to the debate a little late, but I just wanted to chime in to say that you’re all wrong.
Details to come as I figure out what the debate was about.
Ah, there’s the Alex RISP RBI. Rays not looking too good in the field.
Funny Nick.
Nice Alex
Oklahoma City Thunder? Wouldn’t lightning have been better?
What are the Yankees thinking about with Joba? They’re going to try this bullpen to starter crap again mid season? They’re going to ruin this kids arm. Either make him a start straight out of spring training or keep him in the pen.
Wow, another September RBI for A-Rod. I said it after last night’s game, he will dominate now that the playoffs are out of reach. I am looking for him to hit 12 to 15 HRs and drive in 30 to 40 RBIs this month. That way, his supporters can point to his season totals and say that he had nothing to do with the team’s failures this year.
Just missed a HR on that one
How frustrating is this team? Now they want to hit with men in RISP when it’s 3 months too late?!!
SA, Oklahoma City Tornados would be the logical choice
Why couldn’t they play like this all season?
“I said it after last night’s game, he will dominate now that the playoffs are out of reach.”
Actually, it’s probably because he’s away from the stupid Boo Birds at the stadium.
We might have a better shot at catching the Rays than the Sox. We are OWNING them as of late. 11 back with 24 games left. Lets do this!!
“Wow, another September RBI for A-Rod. I said it after last night’s game, he will dominate now that the playoffs are out of reach.”
Wow, and you’ve voiced your opinion on the matter at least six times already. We get it, you think the Yankees are done. That’s fine, you’re entitled to your opinion. But no reason to come here and post it every 10 minutes, unless you’re A-Rod or Jeter or some Yankees’ opinion who we’d actually be interested in reading so often.
“Why couldn’t they play like this all season?”
Apparently, they play best when they have a gun to their heads.
Fancy pants what do you want him (and the Yankees) to do? Throw in towel and not try to win any games? In other words you want them to be QUITTERS? They’re all hitting now with RISP!
Who are these guys? And what have they done with the Yankees?
Why couldn’t we play Tampa all year long LOL
Every 10 minutes, DFox? I think I posted twice last night, and one of those was to reply to someone’s question about whether Moose should get an extra start.
Am I alone in thinking they are done? I don’t think I am being really negative. I think it’s almost a mathematical certainty.
And Laura, I think the booing followed A-Rod’s terrible hitting. It didn’t lead to it.
Generous scoring.
Great game so far.
Observations. It seems that the Yankees have accepted that their playoff chances are slim to none. They have dug quite a hole and coming out will be hard. That, being said, this is the most relaxed as a team they have played all year. With little to nothing to play for, they seem to collectively be coming together.
Concern is, what does this say about Girardi and his managerial style or the connection he has with his team? In the past, one of Torre’s best attributes was his ability to keep most of the pressure on him and off the players. Being relaxed is a huge key in baseball. It will be interesting to see how Girardi’s style morphs over the winter and into next year.
Second observation is Pavano. Just a hunch but expect to see him in Pinstripes to start the season next year. With the way he is pitching, he is only increasing his trade value for the Yankees. This will be contingent on his contract situation for next year, but it would not be surprising to see him. The ranks right now are still fairly thin for the Yankees.
Pettitte may not be back. Moose is questionable, depending on salary. Hughes, still needs more work. Wang will need to build himself back up but he and Joba are the only real locks.
There is no other starting pitcher ready to step in or eat up innings with value.
“And Laura, I think the booing followed A-Rod’s terrible hitting. It didn’t lead to it.”
It didn’t lead to it, but it extended his slump. You think a guy is going to perform better with 50K+ people booing him? Goes to show how dumb some Yankee fans are. The more they booed, the worse he performed. Shocking…NOT!!!!
“Why couldn’t they play like this all season?”
I think the more stable line-up and the return of Matsui lengthening it has something to do with it. Kay keeps talking about 1000 runs but that would have included Posada and Matsui for a full year.
Where was this team (i.e. The Yankees) last month?
Here’s the sliver of reason for hope — if we somehow have Tampa’s number and can keep beating them in remaining games, Tampa and Boston still have 6 to play one another so we’re gaining ground on someone if we can win our games.
Not trying to be the optimism fairy especially since we still have 3 in Anaheim, but….
I think they are nuts with Joba. Does a decision like this mean Cash would be coming back? Why say anything if you are him about next year?
“Why couldn’t they play like this all season?”
Because the baseball gods want the Sox to win the East. We’ll knock down the Rays, the Sox will eventually take the top spot, and at the end of the month our season will be over. At least NESPN will be happy.
Oh and the Hobbit will be voted MVP (sorta joking here, he actually has a shot).
“Why couldn’t they play like this all season?â€
The return of the savior, Carl Pavano, has inspired them.
“Oh and the Hobbit will be voted MVP (sorta joking here, he actually has a shot).”
The Hobbit!!! LOL! I heard today that Ozzie Guillen referred to him as a jockey. Too funny!
Maybe Arod will dominate because it’s an odd-numbered month.
Or maybe Abreu’s new fearless wallitude will inspire Arod and everyone else.
So I totally just had my first grad school class.
BTW, who is pitching and where did he come from?
“It didn’t lead to it, but it extended his slump. You think a guy is going to perform better with 50K+ people booing him? Goes to show how dumb some Yankee fans are. The more they booed, the worse he performed. Shocking…NOT!!!!”
Well, I wasn’t there to boo him, and I wouldn’t boo him if I was. But there isn’t enough space here to list the great players who have hit in spite of being booed. It’s not going to help him if he’s booed. At the same time, he is a professional with more talent than almost anyone in the league. How about a little mental toughness? Are you old enough to remember Reggie Jackson? Never mind booing, his teammates treated him badly. He went out and hit when it mattered.
The return of the savior, Carl Pavano, has inspired them.
LOL
Pavano, Our hero.
But, he has been getting the job done so far. Knock on wood
Apparently my prayer for ants fell on deaf ears.
PICK UP PAVANO’S OPTION.
Or we can rely on Ian Kennedy and the amazing prospects again in ‘09.
“he has been getting the job done so far. Knock on wood”
Danger of splinters too great. Keep Pavano away from wood.
Laura – haha I read the quotes from Ozzie too. That guy has a man-crush on Pedroia. He went on and on and on about him. One of his quotes was something like “I’m offically the worst manager for walking a jockey. This guy came from winning on Big Brown to beating the White Sox.”
unless we play well the next 2 weeks its not going to matter
“list the great players who have hit in spite of being booed.”
Make it easier for yourself. List the players who have hit because they were booed instead of in spite of it. The list would likely be a blank page.
“Apparently my prayer for ants fell on deaf ears.”
Now that you mention it, Angel, I fell a little itchy….
Alright, I’ll drop it. Jeez, you make two A-Rod comments in two days and the whole world turns against you!
Changing subjects, I would echo tom h’s concern about this back and forth to the bullpen nonsense with Joba. I’d rather see him start the season in the Scranton rotation just so his role stays the same.
“Are you old enough to remember Reggie Jackson? Never mind booing, his teammates treated him badly. He went out and hit when it mattered.”
Unfortunately, I’m old (well, older than I want to be) – so yes, I do remember Reggie and a few of the other greats. Alex is not those men nor should he try to be. To me, his mental toughness is irrelevant to my point. I’m talking about the fans responsibility to use their heads. If you are a fan of a team, you want nothing but the best for that team and every member of that team. Alex has been in NY long enough for even the most casual fan to know that booing him is counterproductive. Yeah, it let’s the world know that you are unhappy with his play, but it does him more harm than good. Whatever satisfaction they get from booing (in my opinion) isn’t worth what it’s costing us.
http://tinyurl.com/6y59tc
what happened to Jason!?!?
I mean I “feel” itchy, Angel.
Pat, I never advocated booing the guy. Complaining about people booing him is something people do in lieu of defending his performance.
Dear NY,
Thank you for sucking until we needed you. YOu have truly set a new low for yourselves with a performance like this year, and we applaud you for it. Maybe next year, sign four or five good players and rid yourselves of that terrible GM and even more terrible second baseman.
Until then, thank you for all you’re doing these last four days. We really appreciate it.
We hope that it’s giving you a sense of hope after your recent stomping at the hands of the Red Sox. We truly hope that it didn’t hurt too much. We need you around to beat up on.
Again, thanks for this whole Tampa thing. Really, we owe you one.
Signed,
New England.
Maybe Giambi is sad because he knows it could all be over for him very soon.
The knuckledragger formerly from Baltimore is warming up.
This game is flipping unbelievable. Can we make this count for 2 wins?
Jeter needs to steal second base on the first or second pitch.
Reality,
How cool will it be when the Yanks sweep the Sox the last 3 games and they miss the playoffs by a game? That is an entirely possible scenario.
Geez even our announcers can’t resist talking about the Hobbit.
hey, maybe Boston will lose at a 80% clip, and you guys have a shot at sneaking in, only to run Mike Mussina out in a big spot.
Lucky. Three hundred million, and you’re closer to fourth than second.
Not itchy enough, you’re still here aren’t you?
“Pat, I never advocated booing the guy. Complaining about people booing him is something people do in lieu of defending his performance.”
No it isnt.
If the Yanks go into Fenway down 4 games. There is no way any of them show up except hopefully for Moose when he goes for 20.
yeah, it’s a possibility. Except for the fact that by the time that comes, Boston will be running out subs and bench guys because it’s out of hand by then, and even then, I’m guessing it won’t be like you say.
Did you claim the sweep last week with those matchups too?
Be sensible you retard.
Am I nuts to think that the Yankees have a better chance of finishing ahead of Tampa than ahead of Boston, even though Tampa will be 4 up in the loss column if this game holds up? I can still see Tampa collapsing. Maybe I am overreacting to last night and tonight.
Mark – my thoughts exactly. Heck, they didn’t show up to the final Sox series at the Stadium (minus Giambi for two ABs). Why would they show up at Fenway?
“Pat, I never advocated booing the guy. Complaining about people booing him is something people do in lieu of defending his performance.â€
Not even trying to defend his performance this year but also not defending those who boo any Yankee player any time.
Yeah, really. Maybe the first 158 games mean nothing as what a team really is, and it’s ALL the last three.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Again, it’s a joke at this point. It’s not even a thought in the minds of Red Sox players and fans.
The Yankees are the TB Rays daddy?
“Not itchy enough, you’re still here aren’t you?”
Angel, I applied some ointment. C’mon, I was responding to something someone had already posted to my attention. No more A-Rod from now on. I promise. I won’t even rebut your rebuttal. Jeez, you’d think I set his house on fire.
FancyPants – Nope, I’m still waiting for the Sox to take the top spot while the Rays collapse. They haven’t won a game yet in September yet! (wink)
It’s just too much fun not to come here and point it out. Really.
I take so much enjoyment in what’s happening.
Your owners last years will be spent watching the demise of his true love.
I love it.
Oh, the Red Sox have played at .704 since the trade that made so many of you so happy.
How’s Cano?
I can’t believe that Sox fan (Reality) is taking less abuse here than I do!!!
Reality,
With your accent is that pronounced “retard” or “retahd”? Why dont ya pahk ya cah somewhere else?
So Pete, mind buying my lottery ticket?
Why weren’t the yankees playing like this in August…..
> Why couldn’t they play like this all season?
>> Apparently, they play best when they have a gun to their heads.
They would have been a good team if it had been somebody there to shoot them every minute of the season.
oh, that’s a good one, Drive.
Seriously. You’re like a real comedian. Where do you think of these things.
“How’s Cano?”
Taller and more talented than the midget that plays for BOS.
And that is the last comment I’ll address to the troll.
I think I’ll just post it every night in case people miss it. The Yankees will only have three loses in September.
yeah, the gun has been fired, and long since cleaned and put back under the mattress.
Fancy, poking fun at the mentally challenged like Phony Reality isn’t that much fun.
“I think I’ll just post it every night in case people miss it. The Yankees will only have three loses in September.”
let’s just hope it’s not the final three D;
“I think I’ll just post it every night in case people miss it. The Yankees will only have three loses in September.”
I pray you’re right, but I fear that still might not be enough.
Come on Fancy Pants!
Why you gotta be so faaaancyy?
Nice, GreenBeret!
Now that’s the funniest thing I’ve ever read here, Laura.
Even you’re not that stupid, and you’ve said some really dumb things here. I mean, normally i just read and don’t say anything, but this latest series of events is just too good to pass up. Pavano pitching well. NY helping Boston after getting. their asses handed to them last week.
But yeah, I’m pretty sure you might be the girl who looks in the mirror, sees the size twelve, and thinks everything is okay. That’s the only explanation for your statement. You have a hard time seeing what really is versus what you really want to see.
If someone could stick a cowbell in the hecklers mouth, that would be 2 less noisy things in the dome tonight.
lol okay, temporary truce then.
Lets go Yankees clap clap clap clap la clap.
Need to appease that NY fanbase there with the last clap.
Hey, if the yankees win every game for the rest of the season, they’ll have 98 wins, and that would probably get them in the playoffs! WOOOOOOOOOO
That would be a too useful a use of a cowbell, Pat.
“If someone could stick a cowbell in the hecklers mouth, that would be 2 less noisy things in the dome tonight.”
The field mic almost never adds to the broadcast. The one time I can think of when it did was a couple of years ago when the Yanks were in Detroit. Some wacko Yankee fan with a high-pitched voice was killing Fernando Rodney. He yelled, “Nice jeri curl, Rodney!!!” for the entire inning. If I had been sitting next to him, I am sure I would have hated him. But on TV, it made me laugh.
Navarro has turned himself into a tough out since last year…fouling off good pches and banging one to deep center. Another night of a lot of foul balls, though.
Bossman Jr. could catch that ball.
Who the hell is Gabe Gross?
Who is this clown?
All 3 Yankee clubs are currently winning.
Okay guys, I’ve poked the fire enough.
Seriously. It’s comical at this point.
“we’ll go undefeated in September”.
Be serious, people. You’re the biggest flop in the history of sports with a payroll like that. It’s funny. Really, really funny.
Whacha doing Pavano
Pure class, Phony Reality.
That song sooooo needs to be retired.
That was painful but obvious. Have yet to see Pavano get one pitch down.
I love when a-hole Sox fans talk about the payroll, like they are rooting for Kansas City.
Finally out of that inning. I thought that Pavano was supposed to be a sinker ball pitcher.
The banter was cute for a while, but when the trash talk starts that’s just too much. Cut his line, guys.
Ok while I hate the payroll argument, the Yanks do spend $70+ million more than the Sox…
Well I’m sure glad someone with the name reality took valuable time out of their busy schedule to come on here to ensure that no one was lacking in reality tonight.
“Ok while I hate the payroll argument, the Yanks do spend $70+ million more than the Sox…”
True. But I think the last 10 years or so have demonstrated that once you reach a certain threshold, say the top third or so, it doesn’t have a huge effect. If you’re in the bottom ten, you’re screwed. Beyond that, there’s a wide spread among the playoff teams. I just think that Sox fans and Mets fans don’t have the moral high ground they like to claim.
“I just think that Sox fans and Mets fans don’t have the moral high ground they like to claim.”
The Mutts most certainly don’t. They aren’t getting their money’s worth from that Beltran contract. And how much is BOS paying Julio Lugo to suck?
FancyPants – um I believe the Rays have the second lowest payroll in the leagues and I wouldn’t call them screwed just yet (hopefully by the end of the month though!)
“They say those who can’t play coach
Apparently those who can’t coach sit 30 rows back,
shirtless, shouting obscenities.”
Yep. The guys who wrote that were thinking of the tropicana heckler.
What are they waiting for? Those pitches were very much in the zone.
trenton wins game 1 of the playoffs 2-1
Do we need more runs?
Where the heck was pitch 1 to Pena? And please don’t be flashing Edwar warming up.
Reality:
The Knicks last year were one of the biggest flop because they had a losing season with a big budget.THe Yankees have a chance to win 90 games and will have a winning record at the end of the season.
Funny how 4 years ago Red Sox fans talk about not spending money for championships and being the underdog.Yet last year in the World series they had a $150 million budget compared to the Rockies with just $50 million hmm…….
The Red Sox are like the Yankees the past couple of years will limp into the post-season and get beaten by the the Angels in the ALDS.
You Red Sox fans are what you use to hate….being a Yankee fan.
Mel-
Yes we need more runs- Will be surprised if Pavano gets out of this inning unscathed.
Okay I’ll get on Joe for this. Why in the world is Edwar up? He has been AWFUL for a while now.
Uh oh.
Strikes Carl.
This is getting a little dicey. Tying run is at the plate.
Time to take Idle out.
And this proves why the season will end in disappointment.
Starting pitching.
We just don’t have it.
Wow talk about a quick hook. I just hope the good Edwar shows up tonight.
here comes SOftballer Edwar
Chances of Edwar giving up a HR?
Which Edwar will show up tonight?
Steady Eddie…or Moonshot Eddie?
Why does Girardi wait so damn long to make a pitching change? Pena is gonna walk and Floyd is going to hit a 3-run HR, and then Girardi will make that pitching change. Clueless Joe indeed.
So now no one can say “hey, did anyone notice that Pavano now has 3 more wins than Hughes and Kennedy?”
That’s a loss.
i hate this move.
would rather have Bruney, Marte, Coke in this spot, where a homer ties. hope it works out
My shot at Pavano’s 5-0 might’ve just went out the window
Why we BRING IN EDWAR WTH GIARDI STOP SLEEPING
Let me say it again:
Uh oh.
Did Robbie look smooth, at least?
Is “Home Run” Edwar the best guy for this situation?
Anyone feel a GS coming on?
ugh….
Nice catch, Robbie.
You looked so smooooth…just like Roberto Alomar.
Pitching…Pitching…Pitching…
Yikes!
Oh this is troubling
EDWAR STINKS TRADE HIM
Bases loaded and Edwar has to throw a stike… yeah, yikes.
Ramirez is awful.
Hey, Robbie caught one this time.
By which I meant, no problem.
Edward + Cano = smoooooooth
Edwar has been serving batting practice lately.
Edwar is counting on luck to get out of this inning…
I’m going to have faith.
Phew……………….
Did we seriously just get out of that without giving up a run?
Awesome.
not pretty but effective
L_U_C_K_Y!!!!!!!!!!!!!
**putting down my vodka bottle**
Well Edwar won’t be seeing Pete in the locker room tonight.
DP And a pop with them loaded and no out. Pretty good for someone who is bad I guess.
wow…that was pleasantly surprising lol
Man, the Rays and Yanks seemed to switch playing styles…
Bases loaded, no outs, no runs scored…
Edwar did the job.
How bout them Yanks!!!!!!!!!
wow he got out of it. Joe was lucky!
Daver The Diver would have been hiding behind the pitcher’s mound on both of those shots to Cano. All courage on this side of the computer.
GJ by Edwar
It wasn’t pretty but it was good.
Edwar kinda brings back the Krazy K feelings. You don’t know how it’s gonna go and the rides very, very bumpy.
i’m wondering if the black cloud that’s hovered over this team all year is lifting. that inning – line drives that barely go foul, the other team running into a DP, I’Rod’s bloop double just on the line….
i mean they hit Edwar pretty hard and got no runs. all year that would’ve been a blown lead inning it seems
the red sox just won’t lose.
i’m affraid it’s to little to late.
Edwar needs a 3rd pitch to become a reliable guy instead of just another member of the Maddening Middle Relievers of North America Assn.
Time for Coke and a
please.
GI Joe managing from the seed of his pants again, I mean Edwar Ramirez in that spot ?…PHEW….
Anyway Micheal Dunn is overpowering AA hitters. He went 1 IP allowed 0’s and had 1 K. Nice job by the mid 90’s LHP.
Did anyone else notice Pavano’s reactions tonight?
In the fist inning it looked like he gave Damon a disgusted look when he couldnt come up with that sinking line drive.
In the dugout after the Yanks got out of the jam He didnt cheer, didnt applaud his teamates. He sat there looking like he was caught up in his own pity party for being pulled before he could get the win.
Hard to tell from where we’re sitting, but this guy seems to be a real jerk.
Here’s hoping he repeats his quote from last week. “Pitching is what I do.” Gee, Carl, I thought sitting is what you do.
wow, all this Pedroia hate makes you all sound like bitter/jealous Mets fans. I guess as soon as the Yankees aren’t winning it’s time to sink to their level. Good job (not).
Here’s a good sign for the rest of the trip – after sweeping dead Seattle, the Angels might have clinched by then (magic number 7 going into today’s games). so maybe they won’t play the regulars or be fired up for the series.
Someone needs to find me a rehab.
I’m hooked on X and now I’m hooked on Coke.
Coke literally the curveball is what will make or break him, I still can’t believe he’s topping 95 mph he hasn’t done that in a long time.
It’ll be interesting to see how or if Coke fits into the Yankees’ future plans.
Great job by Coke. 11 pitches, and he gets the job done.
Rebecca – LOL
Coke is good
6 or possibly 4 more outs to get to Mo tonight. I know he is well rested.
Rebecca,
We’ll have an intervention on your behalf because we love ya:)
Rebecca wait till you see Micheal Dunn probably next year. Now that kid can smoke a glove.
Somehow, I knew that Kyle Farnsworth’s No. 48 would never be retired.
Coke is trade bait, he is not this good.
Coke for Matt Kemp?
The only time “Coke” appears on this thread is the diet version.
Mike Francessa loves coke.
Brandon, it’s De La Rosa that i’m waiting to see how fast he moves through the system. He is really impressive, considering his lack of pitching experience.
Coke for Matt Kemp?
Why would the Dodgers do this ? Please tell me your joking
pepsi is better.
Brandon: Related to Adam Dunn?
duh. Even Billy Traber looked good the first few appearances.
Jhonny Nunez – 2.1 IP 4 Ks, picked up the save.
Great throw by Navarro.
Billy Traber looked good in his first few outings in Scranton, maybe.
Brandon, it’s De La Rosa that i’m waiting to see how fast he moves through the system. He is really impressive, considering his lack of pitching experience.
GB you notice his face is on Pinstripes plus now. That kid can move quick, I expect him in Trenton next year.
Brandon: Related to Adam Dunn?
Not sure.
gotta love those freakin’ Orioles…they play US like it’s the World Series and when they get to steppin’ against the BoSux, they turn into the stinkin’ Padres. Thanks for Nothing ….you BASTAGES !
Consider what has come out of the Yanks’ farm system recently, Coke, in all likelihood, will be another bust in the making.
Ohlendorf tonight for PIT – 6 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 2 Ks, 2 HRs
Yea Nunez got him for the former attorney general.
Mrs. K–good line of thinking, but until LAA has home field wrapped up, they’ll be playing as hard as ever. Sciosia is too good a manager to not make that happen.
That change up on the 2-2 count was a strike. Really nice pitch.
I love the Fired up Phil Coke. Hope veal Francesa didn’t see that haha.
WTF got into Coke there ?
Thanks, Pirates!
Calm down, youngster. The worst pitch coke has thrown in his two appearance. Overall, another very good appearance.
Keep the Coke.
Say goodbye to the 6M option on Marte.
Brandon, the way De La Rosa toyed the FSL hitters in his few games, he may open up in Trenton next year.
no strikeouts
not impressed, they put good swings on his pitches
***toyed with the FSL***
Attendance correlation?? Now that’s funny.
With all these terrific young pitchers that have the potential to make an impact next year like
de la rosa
aceves
bleich
garcia
mcallister
coke
im almost to the point where i say screw cc and go with the kids
4.2 innings of 1 hit ball by the Rays bullpen with 6 Ks. Not very encouraging, so much for tack on runs.
Nice outing, but they hit a lot of those balls really hard. Fortunately for us, they were right at people.
Brandon, the way De La Rosa toyed the FSL hitters in his few games, he may open up in Trenton next year.
I know there is also some talk about him Scranton bound next yr. they are so impressed by him, it’s amazing what that kid has done since they took the OF glove away from him.
The better Coke pitches this year, the more scared I am he’s going to be terrible next year
3 ER in 6.1 innings for AJ. Twins lead by 1 with 2 outs in the 9th.
“im almost to the point where i say screw cc and go with the kids”
Didn’t they do that this year?
coffin, none of those pitchers are likely to make a major impact on the yankee team next year. two have be of help in the pen/spot start area (Coke and Aceves).
i think Girardi should think twice about starting Rasner tomorrow. Alfredo Aceves should start tomorrow or call up a lefty to counter the Rays’lefty lineup.
im almost to the point where i say screw cc and go with the kids
Your joking right ?
if that is Girardi want to sweep tomorrow.***
” Ed – Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half!
September 3rd, 2008 at 9:59 pm
i think Girardi should think twice about starting Rasner tomorrow. Alfredo Aceves should start tomorrow or call up a lefty to counter the Rays’lefty lineup. ”
Quoted For Truth.
“Screw cc and go with the kids”
I believe those “kids” were supposed to be Hughes and Kennedy, who were both made of epic fail this year.
Brandon, I think that if De La Rosa makes it to Scranton next year, it’s because of injuries or because he pitches like he did in his 11 starts this year, but, not until after mid season.
Blue Jays tie it up vs. Nathan on a hit and outfield error.
Quoted For Truth.
A-men.
Bat companies love Bruney, Rivera and Damon.
Seeing Rasner take the mound tomorrow night would be a depressant for me.
America’s Game-The story of the 2007 NY Giants = Amazing
Manton:
maybe he should really stink this year so you can feel good about him pitching well next year.
“I believe those “kids†were supposed to be Hughes and Kennedy, who were both made of epic fail this year.”
Bit of an overreaction there.
Brandon, I think that if De La Rosa makes it to Scranton next year, it’s because of injuries or because he pitches like he did in his 11 starts this year, but, not until after mid season.
GB alot of people were laughing at me when I made the comparisons of his story to the two Twins pitcher. Gee if he stays healthy and dominates EL like he did the FSL won’t be too far off.
S.A.-Taking it one game at a time. This offense is still offensive.
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:03 pm
America’s Game-The story of the 2007 NY Giants = Amazing
I’ll be at opening night tomorrow against the ‘Skins. Flying to JFK from Boston at 3 and grilling with my dad in the parking lot from 4- game time.
Nathan’s 3rd blown save on the road trip.
As the pressure mounts, he is starting to melt.
I’ll be at opening night tomorrow against the ‘Skins. Flying to JFK from Boston at 3 and grilling with my dad in the parking lot from 4- game time.
So jealous! You will have a blast.
Just beware of the traffic. With the parking situation all messed up with the building of the new stadium, it will be a headache.
“4.2 innings of 1 hit ball by the Rays bullpen with 6 Ks. Not very encouraging, so much for tack on runs.”
Come on, be fair. You have to be able to win with 6 runs most of the time. You can’t always tack on runs at will. I’d find it less encouraging if the bullpen came in and coughed up the lead and they actually NEEDED more runs. There has to be days where your pen can hold them, like tonight.
I’ll be at opening night tomorrow against the ‘Skins. Flying to JFK from Boston at 3 and grilling with my dad in the parking lot from 4- game time.
Have a great time man. I know I would soak it all in had I gotten Giants Stadium tickets for the ceremonial night in raising that SuperBowl banner !
DFox : excellant point.
very nice.
Yeah S.A. I have season tickets / the parking pass so while I may have to park behind the horse track i’ll get a spot lol
excellent i meant.
DFox, 6 runs should definitely be enough to win the game. I guess I’m just pining for the days when the Yanks feasted on the Rays bullpen.
There are your tack on runs !!! 2 Run homer. Will we see a replay?
Has a ball ever gone that high ?
Replay?
I’m starting to think that they could actually have some fight left in them…I suppose there’s still enough games for a monumental collapse from Tampa…right???
…We might get a replay here.
replay time?
wow wat a shot but the rays think is foul instant replay
First one ever?
Hello replay?
you arod haters can all take a hike!!!!
Is this the first replay ever?
instant replay the first time we ever seen this in major league baseball
That was a rocket by Rodriguez.
wow, the Rays are looking for excuses. it’s clearly a homer, it hitted the foul pole.
I’m not in front of a television, could someone describe the A-Rod homer to me? How long was it, and did it look fair/foul in the replay?
It looked like it hit off the foul pole which would be a fair ball. Interesting to see how long this takes.
only fitting that arod is in the middle with the first replay
guy cant avoid controversy
fair ball
Even replay also comes down to A-Rod.
Yeah!! Replay worked
duh, it is a homer!!!!
he hit a bomb over the foul pole and hit the cat walk behind the pole
HR!!!!!!
Two minutes is not bad at all.
Wow! A-rod makes history!
an a-bomb from a-rod!
WF88 it looks fair, it went over the HR pole, I mean it’s a meaningless HR, he normally would have K’d in that spot, but damn was that a shot he hasn’t hit one there since ALDS vs us.
What a stupid park though, that line above looks off line.
Does it matter if it passes the foul pole in fair territory and then goes foul? Then is then a home run right?
That didn’t take long at all.
jeezus – on my gameday arods homer appeared right over Percivals face – was that a glitch or did he pound that ball??
That was sort of exciting huh?
Figures it’s an Alex shot.
Sterling and Waldman reported it off a screen, not off the foul pole. Can somebody clarify?
big homer
lead is now 5 instead of 3 and we save mo
sure most will say its meaningless
on espn camera it hit the catwalk a couple feet left of the yellow foul pole…
jeezus – on my gameday arods homer appeared right over Percivals face – was that a glitch or did he pound that ball??
He pounded it.
it didnt hit the pole
it went over it which means fair ball
It went over the foul pole and hit the back wall (of the stadium) in fair territory and bounced back hitting the foul pole from behind.
Sterling and Waldman reported it off a screen, not off the foul pole. Can somebody clarify?
yes it did hitted off the screen.
LMAO so now HRs with the Yankees up 3 or less in the 9th inning are meaningless because they take away saves from Mo
Alex in 12th place on the HR list all by himself.
Yeah that shot hit off of the catwalk past the foul pole. Looked like it sort of drifted over the top of the foul pole and made a left turn into the catwalk. It seemed foul to me but I like 2 run homers. The thing was a mammoth shot any way you look at it though, 400+ feet.
That stadium is just filthy with catwalks!
Very sexy indeed.
Joba- The first view it looked like it hit the screen, but it actually hit the wall behind the pole.
In case anyone wants to flip over or split-screen it, Sarah Palin is starting at the RNC.
OMG! The Rays commentators kept on whingeing about the “strike” that A-Rod had prior to the home run.
This is why instant replay won’t work. All of us saw the same video, yet we all saw different things.
jennifer, it’s better than nothing though, isn’t it?
More runs are always welcome. You can never tell in baseball.
o dear god – not veras — souldn’t we have a bigger lead before using mr. walk everyone?? like 12 runs maybe?
Thanks for the heads up Nick. I think the Yankees are safe to win so ill go watch the sexiest VP of our century.
jennifer: don’t worry, the umps are going to settle Rashoman next.
Kay doesn’t realize that that other pole is so if a ball is hit high, they can tell fair or foul. Still it looks stupid.
Are you surprised, Alan? Its the Rays commentators.
I’m so glad I got the otpion of Home and Away coverage tonight.
Why won’t instant replay work? the mlb put up special cameras that have to be fed in to the umps when they want to check, those cameras are situated in different spots than the one we see on YES or ESPN.
veras… strike zone… find it.
Was there a sexy one last century, Rob?
A five run lead, and you walk someone? Throw the ball down the middle!! If he hits it a mile you are still up by 4!
All disputes about balls hit above ther foul poles/screens could be ended by extending the poles to the roof and extending the screens by ten feet to the inside of the poles.
Huh? He just struck the guy out!
I was joking!! I just pointed out that all of us saw the same thing, yet saw something different.
Back from the SWB game. I left them at the top of the 9th with the score 7-1 SWB. I got a great picture of Da Melk I will link to as soon as I get it into my computer. It’s the only picture I took. Here are a few thoughts and highlights:
1. There really is such a difference between AAA and the majors. Obviously not everyone at AAA is ready or will ever be ready for the majors.
2. It was like old home week with Shelly Duncan, Nick Green, Da Melk, Eric Ducan, David Robertson, etc. It really felt like I was with “old friends” somehow.
3. Chase Wright had a good enough line, and this is the first and only time I’ve seen him pitch, but I wasn’t overly impressed with his stuff. The person I really did like was Steven Jackson. He had awesome stuff.
4. They actually showed the Yankee game during the 7th inning in Tampa when Arod was walked (?) – I think it was the 7th, and then they announced the score of the game and the entire place erupted.
Nice game, great seats, and since I had my headset with me I was able to keep my neighbors there posted about the score. Again, it took a little shine off to have all the Sux fans are me cheer every time I gave the score and the Yanks had the lead.
One game at a time is all we can do though.
GO YANKEES!
How was Pavano overall?
Alright Nick that’s the 2nd night in a row dealing the obscure film reference. Hal Holbrook? What’s in store for tomorrow
come on Veras, I’m tired!
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Was there a sexy one last century, Rob?
Teddy Roosevelt was pretty rugged in his own way. lol
I wonder had it had been a 2-2 game at home and Percival makes that same pitch would it have been a strike out or a ball because it didn’t miss by much.
LOL, k, that made me laugh Rob.
oh mo-oooo – hope yer still warmed up
So A-Rod’s HR isn’t so meaningless afterall…thank goodness for instant replay & insurance runs!
Bronx Jeers: with Rasner starting, I might go with the more obvious film reference… Die Hard?
the end. g’night
Seriously why did replay # 1 have to involve him of all people ? This is like a running gag w/ the #13
We cannot win tomorrow, then we will put Boston in the driver’s seat for the division.
Thankfully with Rasner going against Kazmir, we will lose.
Twins lose.
Blue Jays pick up the extra innings win against Minnesota. Yankees pick up another game on the Twins.
With Rasner pitching, it’s going to be “To Hell And Back” (autobiographical film about Audie L. Murphy).
things are starting to turn for the better for this team
is it too late???? time will tell
Trisha – glad that you had a good time. Looking forward to the pictures. Pavano was not that good. Had a 6-1 lead and could not get out of the 5th inning. He left with the score 6-3 and runners on 1st and 2nd.
Nick,
The Last Waltz?
Knowing Arod, he will come to the plate 2 outs, abreu on 1st and the yankees down by 1 run
he will then hit a 2-run walkoff HR on the final regular season game against Yankee stadium, that we will most likely get in our favor without replay, but they will use it and the call will be overturned and it will be a foul ball. Then A-Rod will proceed to strikeout.
Quote of the year:
ARod – “In my next lifetime I want to go stealth – right under the radar.”
ROFL.
ARod – “In my next lifetime I want to go stealth – right under the radar.â€
Tell me he didn’t say that.
It looks to be an interesting September. There is glimmer of hope. A sweep tomorrow would be sweet.
“Nick, The Last Waltz?”
Phil Coke can play the part of Neil Young’s coke bubble.
He did say that. I thought it was quite funny.
He actually sounded like a real person. I’m someone somwhere might overanalyze it – I’m not that person though, lol.
*sure
Alex really did say that…
Pavano still did well enough with his start.
Tampa really looked poor tonight, yet where are the error calls? I really question the official scoring on some of the calls. No wonder the Rays have such a good record with errors, at least two tonight that should have been called errors.
I wonder if the Rays are feeling the pressure and having some troubles in these games because of it.
Brandon,
He sure did. To Kim Jones in the on-field interview.
*somewhere
UGH, clearly I need to send myself to bed.
Hit him Al please hit him, you’d turn into my favorite announcer on YES if you do.
2 little 2 late. Gay-rod will pad his stats like no tomorrow because they have no pressure and wont make the playoffs.
A-rod is a joke this guy will never make it in new york
Thanks Fran. I always know I can count on you!
A-rod, Giambi, and Abreu all starting to hit with RISP. Nice job guys.. like it really matters.
Girardi Postgame
When asked if it’s fitting Alex was involved in the first replay- “Maybe”….Coke has been big, I like the way he throws the ball… Edwar 3 huge outs….as long as the offense keeps going I don’t know what happened this week to get them going and I don’t care…outstanding baserunning by Abreu…Pavano kept us in the game and that’s the most important thing.
Trisha-
Glad you enjoyed the game.
Overall Pavano pitched poorly and was lucky more runs weren’t charged to him.
4 IP 79 pitches 6 hits 3 runs[homer to Gross a .237 hitter]
2 BB 1 strikeout.
If the Yankees decline his option and then sign him to a 2-3 year contract for free, I’ll still be upset.
We need to sign 2 FA starters so that we can trade some of our young pitching talent for young athletic position talent.
sean, not that you’ve bothered looking, but, Abreu has been hitting with runners in scoring position all year. Find another whine. Yours is flat. Next time, put a cork in it.
Damon
As long as they get it right a few minutes doesn’t matter…Not surprising it was Alex and I’m sure if he’ll be involved in a few more in the next 9 years…Need to remove the back foul pole because it’s too far back and faded balls might be affected by the pole…It’s a big win. getting out the bases loaded jam was big…Rays are a good talented, athletic team…Great to have the wins.
How about Phil Coke and his interviews I mean a dose of being real.
Coke gets the award for the first Yankee to ever mention myspace in a postgame interview.
Brandon, Coke gave another good interview?
I’ve been doing reading for class, so the tv’s off.
Pavano
Frustrating, need to keep working… Command has been good but need to make pitches and keep the ball down…Left fastball over the plate on the HR….Disappointed in myself, need to keep the bullpen out of it for 6 or 7 innings…Pitches where my stuff is good and pitches where it’s flat… I’m being patient, working hard and competing…Never had TJ surgery before and I think I’m ahead of the curve but sometimes it’s been spotty.
Plenty of Giese/Aceves tomorrow.
I keep waiting for Coke to call Kim Jones “dude” during his interviews.
How bout dem Yanks!!!
I remember during the SuperBowl, Kim interviewed Ahmad Bradshaw during media week and he kept calling her “man”.
I say the Joba agenda next year is keep him in the pen til memorial day and then unleash the beast. However due to the injuries to Hughes and Joba this season it means the only starter definitely penned for next season is Wanger. This translates to “Hank get CC, now!”.
“I keep waiting for Coke to call Kim Jones “dude†during his interviews.”
If there was ever a movie about the 08 Yanks. Sean Penn during his fast time at ridgemont high days would be perfect.
I remember during the SuperBowl, Kim interviewed Ahmad Bradshaw during media week and he kept calling her “manâ€.
Me too. It’s like he wanted some.
Thanks Yankee Trader! Doesn’t it really stink that we are helping the Sux by beating Tampa? Hey tomorrow night I get to watch Alfred E. Neuman in person. And my seats are so close to the dugout and the field that I could highfive the guys when they walk in from the field (So I will get to see IPK up close and personal.
Trisha, are you going to bring the latest issue of Mad Magazine for him to sign?
Thanks for always sharing the postgame comments, Pat. I really appreciate it, as I don’t get YES.
Ha ha ha ha! He probably wouldn’t even get it!
For someone just coming back, and early, from Tommy John surgery, I really don’t think there is much to complain about with what Pavano did so far.
I know he is no favorite of the Yankee fans, but he is working it as best he can. Coming back this soon is pretty good. While it may be simply motivated by getting his next paycheck, so what. At least the Yankees are getting something out of him now, rather than absolutely nothing.
Coke is going to be a fan favorite just given his demeanor. He seems like a kid, but has done well on the mound. I look forward to seeing more of him.
Chris September 3rd, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The Sox won this game because they kept chipping away, not by trying to hit a HR at every AB. Short fat bald guy (aka Pedroia) hit a HR, then Crisp had a bases-loaded walk, Kotsay knocked in two runs, and then a couple of bunts give them the game.
Anyway, hoping for a win tonight so we don’t fall back in the standings.
The Sox are a decent team, but really, these “comeback” wins of theirs nearly always occur in their crackerjax box of a stadium. Why do you think we monster the ball there, too? The place forgives all sins, especially when you bat last.
Another factor of Boston’s success is an outfield that forgives all pitching sins. Ellsbury isn’t much of a hitting talent, but he can go and get the ball. How many leaping, diving catches has their revamped outfield made to rescue mediocre pitching? And their pitching is not lockdown. Fenway is the great equalizer for the Red Sox. On the road, they generally are a below average team.