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The Yankees were pounded by the Angels but showed some fight.

Robinson Cano says his contract is not to blame for his poor season.

My notebook didn’t make it on the web site for some reason. The main part was about Alfredo Aceves. Here is what I wrote:

Alfredo Aceves Sr. was a power-hitting first baseman in the Mexican League, a reliable player for Leones de Yucatán. He was known as El Paton, or Big Foot.

Jonathan Aceves, his eldest son, signed with the White Sox in 1997. A catcher and first baseman, he played 670 games in the minors before retiring after the 2006 season. He spent parts of five seasons in Triple-A but never made it to the majors.

“I actually quit playing baseball for a few years,” Yankees right-hander Alfredo Aceves Jr. said yesterday. “I was a basketball and volleyball player. But it was in my blood.”

Aceves followed his father into the Mexican League, signed with the Yankees in February and tonight will make his first start. His parents, brother and sister will be among the many family and friends in the stands at Angel Stadium.

“This is a big deal for my family,” the 25-year-old Aceves said. “And for me. This is the first time they will see me pitch in the States.”

Aceves was 8-6 with a 2.62 ERA in 25 minor-league games, 23 of them starts. After opening the season with Single-A Tampa, he was promoted quickly and made it to the majors on Aug. 28.

After two relief appearances, he was chosen to replace Darrell Rasner in the rotation.

“I’m not nervous, more excited,” said Aceves, who allowed one run over seven innings out of the bullpen. “I thought I could do this when they signed me.”

The 6-foot-3, 220-pound Aceves does not have an overpowering fastball but throws four pitches for strikes and knows how to pitch, the product of 126 games in Mexico from 2002-07.

“My father taught me how to prepare and be strong physically and mentally,” Aceves said. “I owe a lot to him.”

Aceves has been watching video of the Los Angeles hitters for several days. Facing the best team in baseball, he said, is not a concern.

“Nobody knew who I was at the start of the season,” he said. “Now I’m in the majors. That was hard. Pitching? I’ve been doing that for a while now.”

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  1. Al from BK( The key to winning is Calvin Pace.) September 9th, 2008 at 3:37 am

    I like this guy. It would be nice to see him as the #5 starter next season perhaps.

  2. A.B.K September 9th, 2008 at 5:37 am

    Did you know that Guerrero is a free agent this year??? how about we sign him and let Abreu go? (by the way the top 12 free agents are: Sabathia, Delgado, Giambi, Kevin Millar, Mark Teixeira, Chipper Jones, Manny, Abreu, Guerrero, Adam Dunn, Burnett and K-Rod.
    There are 24 more big names on the market: Crawford, Garrett Anderson, Varitek, Nomar, Juan Uribe, Joe Crede, Cliff Floyd, Raul Ibanez, Jason Michaels, Griffey, Pat Burrell, Mike Cameron, Milton Bradley, Jon Garland, Glavine, Randy, John Lackey, Pedro, Mussina, Brad Penny, Pettitte, John Smoltz, Wakefield and the worst closer (?) Trevor Hoffman). my terrible opinion says the Yankees should try to sign Sabathia (replacing Pettitte) Lackey (replacing Mussina) Teixeira (replacing Giambi) and Guerrero (replacing Abreu). meanwhile there’s about 50 free agent Relievers.

  3. 86w183 September 9th, 2008 at 8:32 am

    A.B.K….. A number of those guys have options on their contracts, notably Guerrero, Chipper, Lackey, Crawford, Anderson, Delgado, Giambi, Penny and Smoltz

    Yanks focus will/should be on CC Sabathia and Teixiera though I could see them getting involved with Burrell and possibly another starting pitcher. First they have to settle things with their own impending FA… Giambi, Abreu, Pudge, Pettite, Mussina and Pavano

  4. Doreen September 9th, 2008 at 8:51 am

    I don’t see the Yankees going hard after Teixeira because it sure seems like they’re going to hedge their bets with Posada and keep 1B an option for him. At least that’s what I’m getting from what I’ve read in the papers.

    I think the Yankees have to be heartless this off-season. I love Matsui, but the Yankees have got to look at him like he’s not going to be able to come back to form. Abreu’s been good offensively, but if the Yankees have a chance to strengthen their defense, they have to go for it. Damon, too. Heartless, but not haphazard, either. Don’t change for change’s sake. It’s got to be an improvement.

    I feel like I’m just stating the obvious.

  5. Purenyyankee September 9th, 2008 at 9:04 am

    Hopefully this GUTLESS, LIFELESS, PATHETIC, MISERABLE team gets hammered the next two games so K-Rod can’t get any saves.

  6. ant!-mussina September 9th, 2008 at 9:54 am

    agree with you purenyyankee

    i wish aceves gets hammered and cries with his family!

  7. pat September 9th, 2008 at 9:57 am

    “I have an answer for people who say that: It’s not your business.”

    Good for Cano. Conversations about contracts are nobodies business except the player and the team.

  8. dave September 9th, 2008 at 10:11 am

    There’s no way Aceves is 25 years old. He’s the Mexican version of El Duque.

  9. Doreen September 9th, 2008 at 10:12 am

    I’m rooting for Robinson to have a great year next year. I am encouraged by the attitude that was reflected in Pete’s article and by the fact that he expects to learn from whatever mistakes he’s made.

  10. Fan mail from some flounder September 9th, 2008 at 10:56 am

    Purenyyankee, ant!-mussina:

    Thats deep, really. Can we assume that puberty is a future event in your lives?

  11. Joey's Poodle September 9th, 2008 at 10:58 am

    I hate seeing my team humiliate themselves on the field — and in my book the opponent cannot humiliate you because getting beaten is not a humiliation in itself, you can only humiliate yourself. So I hope they will show up and play their best, even if their current best is not better than the opponent’s best, for every game remaining in this misbegotten season.

    I want to see them handle this disaster with class and (yes, JG) with ‘fight’.

    I want to see Mussina win his twenty even if those are the only games we win from here on in to the finish.

    I want to see Aceves pitch and judge for myself whether he’s a real find.

    I want to see Joba continue to turn from a very big boy into a man in the trying crucible that has been his first full year in the show.

    This is just to remind myself that there are still things I want to see, even though I went to bed early this morning feeling that that was about enough baseball for me this season… :-(

  12. Jorge (México) September 9th, 2008 at 11:59 am

    dave
    September 9th, 2008 at 10:11 am
    There’s no way Aceves is 25 years old. He’s the Mexican version of El Duque.

    ?????????????????????????
    What do you think, Dave? Do you think México is a jungle? FYI, Alfredo Aceves was born in San Luis Río Colorado, México, on December 8th, 1982.
    I don’t know if you have basics knowledge about Mathematics, but, a man who was born on December, 1982, is now 25 years old.
    I don’t know what happens in your birthplace, but here in México, when a child is born, his parents go and register him.
    I don’t know what’s your problem with México, (this is not the first time you), but, please, don’t mess with my country because of your ignorance.
    I know you don’t care about what I’m saying. It only shows your stupidity, your ignorance and your racism. Go eat them somewhere else.

  13. saucY September 9th, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    good luck to Aceves. how cool would it be to find something great in him. after all, you can’t spell Aceves without ‘Ace’!

  14. FrankfromChatham September 9th, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    Did anyone notice the statistical comparison of Abreu & Guerrero? Offensively, they are statistically close except for Vlad’s 8 additional HRs. While Abreu is only an average outfielder, Vlad is awful, awful defensively. Yes, he has a great arm. I’d like to see Abreu, weak armed Damon, the great Giambino and Andy gone! We could many to pick from to satisfy the next 2-3 years. Yes, Mussina should be back as the #5.

  15. ohhh mo its cano! September 9th, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    who is talkin behind my boy canos back!they should do a club house reality t.v show with all the teams that aint makin the playoffs this year. I would have something to watch seeing how i dont like football or basketball…Somebody pull the plug on this season already it hurts

  16. SteveB September 9th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    I’ve seen Aceves in Trenton. Not an overpowering fastball, all he did was “get outs”. That sounds good to me.

    Jorge, don’t worry about it. Some people, no matter their nationality, insist on acting juvenile. I’ve been to Mexico several times, and I love the people there. Very friendly and accommodating when treated with respect, which is how everybody should act anyway.

  17. Jorge (México) September 9th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Thanks, Steve. No problem at all. It’s just that this is not the first time that poor little guy (Dave) says something stupid about México. But it is absolutely clear to me that this kind of people (you have to call them someway) is harder to find each new day. Thank God.

  18. dave September 9th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    Jorge & SteveB, as if you didn’t know…

    Latino players having been lying about their ages to secure lucrative contracts and signing bonuses for years.

    This fact is clear and well documented.

    Telling me Alfredo Aceves DOB proves nothing. All the players who lie produce some forged document that indicates that they’re younger.

    It’s interesting that he’s been listed as short as 5′ 11” but as tall as 6′ 3” — and as light as 176lbs but as heavy as 230lbs. And if you look closely at his shaved head, you’ll see the horseshoe outline of a man who has already lost most of his hair — at age 25?? — not likely.

    Maybe he’s Teddy Higuera’s brother.

    So don’t try to hide behind bogus accusations of racism; Mexico has nothing to do with it — lying to get a contract or more money is the issue. Next you’ll say that there are no Mexicans who came to the US illegally.

  19. Jorge (México) September 9th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    For the last time, my dear friend, I know very well Aceves’ age. Why? Because he made his debut 6 years ago, at the age of 19, in my homeplace Mexican League team (Leones de Yucatán). It was a well documented debut, since he was the son of a former 1B that played many years for my home team.
    Your ignorance is before our eyes again, when you refer to his age based on his bald head. So smart, my dear friend.

    P.S. Next time you’ll say that there are no US citizens hiring latin americans (not just mexicans) who went to the US illegally. That’s a problem your “inteligence” will never understand. Do not even try to. You’re wasting your precious time.

  20. dave September 9th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Jorge,

    Again, your argument doesn’t follow. Saying you believe he is 25 because you believed he was 19 six years ago isn’t proof of his age. Next you’ll tell me that you knew he was 19 six years ago because you heard he was 18 the year before that. The same baseless assumption repeated over and over doesn’t bring you any closer to the truth.

    Latino players like to shave a few years off their age to attract more MLB interest ($). Shall I rattle off the big names — that you already know? I first heard this from Cubans, Dominicans and Mexicans I played baseball with in North Bergen, NJ — a long time before this became common knowledge in the media. Being a baseball player himself, Alfredo’s father probably lied about his own age — and his son’s age — for the same reason. As for the wisdom of judging by appearance, I’m sure you thought Bronx Little Leaguer Danny Almonte — who was 2 feet taller than his teammates — and had a mustache — wasn’t lying about his age either. (He had a baseball father like Aceves, too)
    How did that turn out?

    p.s. When criticizing someone’s “inteligence”, it’s more effective if you yourself are smart enough to know how to spell that word correctly. But I guess I’ll be tagged as a racist since I’m expecting you to know English when posting to a blog — that’s written in English — for a newspaper — that’s written in English.

  21. WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS 2009 September 9th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    THIS WAS A HARD YEAR, AND YOU CAN EXPECT THEM EVRY 10 OR 15 YEARS WITH THE YANKEES, SO LET’S WAIT FOR THE NEXT YEAR CUZ I THINK THAT THIS TEAM WILL BE RELOADED, NO MATTER WHAT THE OWNERS HAVE TO DO BUT I THINK THAT THEIR EGO’S ARE HARMED SO THEY NEED TO BUILD THE KIND OF TEAM THAT KICK BOSTON EVERY TIME THEY PLACE A FOOT IN FENWAY, BUT WE NEED REVENGE IN ANAHEIM TOO, SO I DON’T KNOW IF SABATHIA OR TIEXEIRA IS COMING TO PINSTRIPES BUT THE ONLY THING I KNOW IS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO FEEL THE SAME NEXT YEAR IN SEPTEMBER, I CAN BET ON IT.

  22. no.27 September 9th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    I wonder which players are talking behind Cano’s back. It doesn’t seem like that would make a good team atmosphere, but hopefully it doesn’t become a serious problem. Hopefully he will use this season as motivation to get the most out of his natural talent next year and the rest of his time on the Yankees.

    Someone suggested trading Matsui. Thats a bad idea. He’s hitting .350 this year w/RISP, .326 w/RISP and 2 outs, and .349 in close and late situations. He’s also coming off 2 seasons that he’s been hurt, so I don’t think they’d get much for him. Let him DH with Posada next year and possibly play first base, which he has publicly said he’s open to do.

    Damon, on the other hand, could be a better option to trade. He’s done just as well as Matsui in those situations, but he would bring back more because he still has the range to cover centerfield. With that in mind, I’d say he’s our most valuable trade chip that isn’t being counted on down the road.

  23. Jorge (México) September 9th, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    dave
    September 9th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
    Jorge & SteveB, as if you didn’t know…

    Latino players having been lying

    And YOU tell ME about spelling correctly??? Because I wrote “inteligence” with just a single “l”? Haven’t you heard about mistakes because of typing fast? I think HAVING BEEN LYING was not the case.
    You’re a joke, my dear friend

    Jorge (México)
    September 9th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
    For the last time, my dear friend, I know very well Aceves’ age. Why? Because he made his debut 6 years ago, at the age of 19, in my homeplace Mexican League team (Leones de Yucatán). It was a well documented debut……….

    To me, it seems that I did not just say 25 minus 6. I said A WELL DOCUMENTED DEBUT. Because he was a son of a former idol over here. Anyway, I don’t care what you think. Just let me tell you that I wish you the best, my dear friend

  24. dave September 9th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    If you don’t care what I think, why did you get so defensive at my first comment?

    Where did I say Mexico was some jungle and all the other stuff you shoved into my words. You found an awful lot to get mad about in two short sentences.

    “There’s no way Aceves is 25 years old. He’s the Mexican version of El Duque.”

    Somehow you and your pal twisted those lines into a racist statement. You also mentioned that I’ve made negative comments in the past. That’s funny considering today was the first time I’ve ever posted on this or any other Yankee blog. Maybe you’re just wrong — and overly sensitive to any remark regarding any Mexican. If Aceves gets bombed by the Angels tonight, maybe you can accuse them of racism for hitting a Mexican’s fastball too hard.

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