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Homeward bound

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Sep 10, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

So the road trip ends at 5-5. After winning three games, the Yankees went 2-4 and are now 77-69 with 16 games left. The next 10 games are going to be very bittersweet as the Stadium closes down.

Joe Girardi is staying defiant to the end. “There’s no ‘X’ by our name,” he said. “There’s still a lot to play for.”

Derek Jeter is in a state of denial. After making the playoffs 12 years in a row, he can’t seem to come to come to grips with the idea that the Yankees will go home on Sept. 28. “I can’t comment on speculation,” he said. “We need to win games, that’s the only way you can look at it. You always have a chance, but we need to win every day. That’s the bottom line.”

The bottom line is the Yankees would do well to get out of fourth place.

The Yankees haven’t quite shut it down but they certainly aren’t a very scrappy team these days. Four hits against Dustin Moseley and assorted relievers? Plus you’re seeing a lot of errors, pickoffs and other plays that speak to a lack of interest.

I believed a few weeks ago that the Yankees were making a mistake leaving Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Mark Melancon and their other prospects in the minors. But maybe it makes sense. Let those players play games that matter and go home with a good feeling.

Subjecting them to the atmosphere around the Yankees now isn’t going to help.

Thanks for reading during the road trip. I’m on a red-eye flight tonight and will blog at you sometime tomorrow.

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158 Responses to “Homeward bound”

  1. jennifer- I got your back Girardi September 10th, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    Shame to see the stands so empty. :( I think attendance would be a lot better if it was a weekend game.

  2. bphill September 10th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Curt Schilling….you son of a b

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26645067/

  3. jennifer- I got your back Girardi September 10th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    I should clarify my statement. The Scranton playoff game is what I am referring too.

    Extra innings in the game 0-0 10th

  4. jennifer- I got your back Girardi September 10th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    I just want to know where he saw Yankee fans or NY fans cheering Brady’s injury? Was he scouring the internet?

  5. raymagnetic September 10th, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    At least they’re not the Pirates.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....d=tab4pos2

  6. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    life after baseball for Schilling just can’t stay shut, I could care less about the Patriots my team X’d them in the SuperBowl I’m not a Jets fan but this week I’ll stand in thier corner after my Giants game. :lol:

  7. Vince September 10th, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Nothing Schilling says or does can surprise. His jibberish is known worldwide.

  8. tim boat September 10th, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    this team is a disgrace blow it all up!

    Gone after this season:
    Abreu
    Giambi
    Pavano
    Pudge
    Ponson
    Rasner
    maybe Pettitte (but at least he goes out and tries and shows effort)

    Put Clueless Joe on a short leash.

    Gone after next season:
    Damon
    maybe Matsui depending on how he does

    Start shedding some of this deadweight.

    Too bad A-Rod can’t opt out again.

  9. jennifer- I got your back Girardi September 10th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    eric duncan as the winning run on first no outs.

  10. jennifer- I got your back Girardi September 10th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    First and second two out. Justin Christian can end this here.

  11. YankeesBen September 10th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    jen where did ya go?

  12. pat September 10th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    Why has the media not gotten as much as a “no comment” from anyone associated with the Sox about Schillings comments? He is still an employee of the team.

    If a Yankee made those types of statements, Pete and the rest of the NY media would be on everyone from ownership on down to the batboy for a reaction.

  13. FrankSJU September 10th, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    If the team is playing unmotivated baseball where is the fire breathing manager we were supposed to be picking up? Oh yeah he’s here, barely.

    It was a bad hire from the beginning. With 1 year under his belt and he couldnt handle that sizzling South Florida media pressure. He either extremely over manages or under manages. He has never met middle ground. Keeping him on board is pointless. I know— rash decision, the old Yankees, blah blah blah. The best thing that could happen to this franchise is for Hank and Hal to admit a mistake and dump him.

  14. Joe from Long Island September 10th, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Get home safely, Pete.

  15. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    former Yankees prospect Christian Guzman has found his power stroke…what did we deal him to Minny for again ?

  16. jennifer- I got your back Girardi September 10th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    You can watch the game for free on milb.com The game is long into extras.

  17. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Guzman was part of the Knoblauch deal.

  18. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    the SWB game Jennifer?

  19. jennifer- I got your back Girardi September 10th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Yes Bob, go to milb.com than multimedia.

  20. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    Cool. Thanks for passing that along Jennifer.

  21. Tom September 10th, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    Do the yankees even offer arbitration to any of their fee agents? or is the fear they might accept too great?

  22. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Gomes is in the minors?

    Did they send him down just for the playoffs?

  23. Katie September 10th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    Bottom of the 12th in Scranton

  24. Katie September 10th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Some guy just yelled Hurry Up I want to go home at the scranton game…. ahahaha

  25. saucy September 10th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Bob, they sent him down in case they needed someone to shove Shelley from behind!

  26. Bronx Jeers September 10th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Mets are having bullpen problems tonight with the Nats knocking on the door down 10-11 after climbing back from 1-7.

    oops Wright just hit a 2 run homer

    Sox and Rays tied in bottom 10th

  27. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    They said both teams are bussing it to Durham after the game.

    And the pansy Major Leagurers whine when they have to fly their luxury charter for a game the next day.

  28. BuzzCan September 10th, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    anyone rooting for torre and the dodgers to go to the world series? and maybe beat the suxs

  29. Katie September 10th, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    Man Bradford.

  30. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    a meaningless 2 runs shot for Wright :lol:

    Ok my friend wants to bet 20 bucks on this game that the Mets will win tonight should I take him up double or nothing ?

  31. purenyyankee September 10th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    To FrankSJU:

    AMEN !!!!

    I’ve said it for months now. I thought we were getting Billy Martin and we got stuck with STUMP Merill. The two Hillbillies, Hank and Hal would never fire Stump Girardi, but he AND Cano should leave town. I’m very suprised by Girardi because he ALWAYS played the game hard. He just can’t manage. He’s afraid to crack the whip because he thinks these gutless players are his buddies. They don’t respect him. If they did, they wouldn’t be mailing these games in.

  32. Katie September 10th, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    BuzzCan- Yesterday I mentioned how ironic it would be if Torre ended up winning it all. How he couldn’t do anything more to shove it in the Front Office’s face about him walking away from their offer. I don’t dislike Torre, always thought he was a classy guy, however I am not necessarily rooting for him.

    I think the Cubs will get them and beat them, but if the Dodgers end up in the WS, I will root for them.

  33. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Well I gladly didn’t take the bet.

  34. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Going to the 13th in Scranton.

  35. BuzzCan September 10th, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    what is with this guy delgado? does he hate willie that much?

  36. Katie September 10th, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    How much do you think that guy in the red jersey at Scranton gets paid?

  37. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    what is with this guy delgado? does he hate willie that much?

    IMO he’s getting a little help ;)

  38. Katie September 10th, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    Hey Brandon, earlier today, I actually mentioned your trade for Milledge. Milledge for Kennedy, what do you think?

    I think Washington would bite.

  39. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    Katie I’ve been saying this I’d try to package Kennedy for him while his value is at his lowest. That kid is still young and needs a bit of teaching.

  40. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    The stands really are pretty empty there.

  41. Katie September 10th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    Kennedy is better suited for the NL. And I don’t think Washington would have a problem with his attitude.

  42. Nick in SF September 10th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    For those who missed it, re-post from previous thread, food for thought, drive LoHud traffic, blah blah blah:

    I’m not sure I can figure out a team to root for. Top priority: anyone playing the Red Sox. Ok, that’s easy.

    But the Rays? They’re not completely loathesome, but the whole tiny-payroll small-market thing is played up to embarass the Yankees. Maybe they need to be embarasses a little?

    The Angels? No, we hate them. Booooo.

    The White Sox? Hmmmm, don’t care much either way, so maybe.

    The Twins? See: the Rays. Also, we don’t like their GM.

    The Mets? Duh, of course not.

    The Phillies? Whatever, sure.

    The Cubs? Hmmmm, if they end their streak, does that in any way diminish the Sox having ended their streak? No? I didnt think so.

    The Brewers? An attractive choice, but do we want CC getting a ring someplace else and thinking it could happen any old place?

    The Dodgers? Um, hello, Joe Torre? How much stupider would that make us look… sorry, Joe, but no.

    And finally, the Diamondbacks? No, we don’t like them either. Booooooooo, Arizona!

    Thank goodness football season is here.

  43. Josh September 10th, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    Who would be worse in a WS win – Mets or Red Sox?

  44. Josh September 10th, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    *And I only say this because I am surrounded by Met fans who feel the need to remind me of this awful season.

  45. AngelsFan September 10th, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    Thanks to the $209 million, fourth place Yankees for continuing to be our b*i*t*c*h*e*s. Thanks, losers, you continue to make the baseball season fun. Good luck fighting off the Orioles for last place.

    LOL. $209 million. Money well spent CASH-MAN, money well spent.

  46. Katie September 10th, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    Red Sox

  47. jennifer- I got your back Girardi September 10th, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Red soxs winning.

    Ignore the gnat that just appeared.

  48. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    But the Rays? They’re not completely loathesome, but the whole tiny-payroll small-market thing is played up to embarass the Yankees. Maybe they need to be embarasses a little?

    I completely agree Nick. Plus add in the fact they have zero fan support and I have a hard time rooting for them.

    Gonna be a tough postseason to have a rooting interest for me for sure.

  49. iou September 10th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    Game over.

  50. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    SCRANTON WINS!!!!

  51. jennifer- I got your back Girardi September 10th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    I’ll be rooting for the Cubbies.

  52. Mark (Brett is back) September 10th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    Scranton Wins.

  53. Katie September 10th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    SCRANTON WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINS!!!!!!!!!!

  54. iou September 10th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    bern baby bern!!!!!!!!!

  55. jennifer- I got your back Girardi September 10th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    I haven’t seen it yet, you are way ahead of me.

  56. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    Bernie Castro breaks the 0-0 game ! 1-0 SWB in the 13th !

  57. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    The play NY, NY after Scranton wins too? LOL

  58. saucy September 10th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    Hooray for scranton!

  59. Katie September 10th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    Bernie Castro plays 2nd doesn’t he?

    He should come to spring training with the Yankees so maybe that will light some fire under Cano’s butt. But hey look, he doesn’t swing at the first and 2nd pitch!!

  60. Joba the Great September 10th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    I just noticed that, too, Bob. That’s TREMENDOUS!

  61. jennifer- I got your back Girardi September 10th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    Yankees win THUUUUU Yankees win!!

  62. iou September 10th, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    The yank ghosts have moved to …….Scranton?

  63. COL 88 September 10th, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    Isin’t this sad? We are reduced to rooting for the 30 yr old minor leaguers in Scranton.

  64. jennifer- I got your back Girardi September 10th, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    One more win for the Governors cup championship!!

  65. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    Are all these AAA playoff games gonna be free on MLB.TV?

    Wish I had known earlier, would have watched more of it.

  66. Joba the Great September 10th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    Let’s option Joba to Scranton to close the series out! International League fever, CATCH IT!

  67. Katie September 10th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    Well it’s bed for me. 6:45 AM is going to be here before I know it!

    GO RAYS!

    Good Job Scranton…

    Night all!

  68. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    Isin’t this sad? We are reduced to rooting for the 30 yr old minor leaguers in Scranton.

    It’s more fun than watching 35 year old major league has beens mailing it in every game.

  69. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    and in Trenton Whelan gift wraps the game to Akron

  70. jennifer- I got your back Girardi September 10th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    bob, no but you can get the audio for free during the season. I guess they are having it for free during the playoffs.

  71. bigjf September 10th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    The Yanks would do well to lose at this point, better draft position. I’m as delirious as Jeter in terms of still having blind faith in pulling the biggest comeback in history, but if they’re going to miss the playoffs, they might as well finish as close to bottom as possible.

  72. Bronx Jeers September 10th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    I have to root for the LA although they may be the worst team in the tournament if they make it at all. Got to root for the Torre/Mattingly team just as I would root for Willie if he was still out in Queens.
    As far as the making the yanks look stupid just how much more stupid can they be made to look than they already are?

    I’m going to see a Dodger/Rockie game this weekend at Coors. Any tips from anyone that’s been?

  73. hank hal September 10th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    Does anyone know if Jeter waited until Texas won so he could go into the Angels’ clubhouse and hug and high-five the Angels players and congratulate them and joke around with Moreno?

  74. Wangawa September 10th, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    Jeter’s going to show up to Yankee Stadium in October and be very confused when no one’s there.

  75. Trevor September 10th, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    I think Scranton has all the makings of a dynasty. They got speed, pitching and defense. This 1st championship is just the beginning.

  76. For $13 I'll be a Macadamia Nut September 10th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    I would root for the Angels over the Rays and Red Sox, then root for the NL to have the Cubs go all the way.

    Honestly though, with the Yankees out, I lose all interest in the post season. The highlights from the games will be more than enough. As it was last year.

  77. Compton September 10th, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    This Joe Torre love fest is reaching nauseating levels. I might have to end up rooting for the Mets in the NLCS if they play LA.

  78. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    Trevor you suspect right especially w/ the AA and A ball prospects that will be coming soon in the next 3-4 yrs. it all starts from your core now if only we can start getting that core to the ML level.

  79. Pepitone September 10th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    “I’m very suprised by Girardi because he ALWAYS played the game hard. He just can’t manage. He’s afraid to crack the whip because he thinks these gutless players are his buddies. They don’t respect him. If they did, they wouldn’t be mailing these games in.”

    I too am surprised at Girardi. I am surprised that he seems to have lost that fire (he wasn’t like this at Florida), I’m surprised he didn’t make some moves during the season to try something else (he just keeps doing the same thing day after day), and I’m surprised at the players, I thought they respected him.

    Joe is going to have to come into next season with a new attitude, he cannot continue to baby these guys. The more he makes excuses for them the more they resent him. He has not established himself as the manager with this bunch, and until, or unless, he does, he will have a very short managerial career with the Yanks.

    Oh, and one more thing – GET RID OF A-CHOKE!!! Three strikeouts in 4 at bats, who was pitching, Bob Gibson?

  80. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    I don’t think I could deal with the Cubs winning it all.

    I have a feeling their fans would be just as annoying as the Red Sox fans after 2004.

    They’d get that same attitude that even though they stunk for a century, all of the sudden they are the greatest organization in the history of sports because they won one championship.

  81. Tom September 10th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    bigjf, It figures the year the yankees have a chance at getting a low draft pick is also the year that scouts are calling one of the weakest draft classes in recent times.

  82. Bronx Jeers September 10th, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    “I think Scranton has all the makings of a dynasty. They got speed, pitching and defense. This 1st championship is just the beginning.”

    Especially with perennial aces Hughes and Kennedy possibly spending their foreseeable careers there.

  83. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    bigjf, It figures the year the yankees have a chance at getting a low draft pick is also the year that scouts are calling one of the weakest draft classes in recent times.

    Well, maybe we’ll actually sign our first round pick then.

    And then send him to Dr. Andrews for TJ surgery too I’m sure.

  84. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    bigjf, It figures the year the yankees have a chance at getting a low draft pick is also the year that scouts are calling one of the weakest draft classes in recent times.

    This isn’t the only team that happens to, what you expect them to do, you get a verbal commitment then some hot shot wannabe pulls out and goes to NCAA, that’s not thier fault, it’s not like you lose a pick you still get it for next year.

  85. pat September 10th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    This Ray/Sox game is so long that Pete may land in NY before the Rays.

  86. Trevor September 10th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    “Especially with perennial aces Hughes and Kennedy possibly spending their foreseeable careers there.”

    Boo your corney…

  87. Chase Wright September 10th, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    Too bad none of Sranton players are even remotely likely to help the big league club anytime soon.

  88. Grrrrrrrrr September 10th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    I wonder what the score is in the Rays game.

  89. Buddy Biancalana September 10th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    Guzman was part of the Knoblauch trade.

  90. Tom September 10th, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    regarding the draft and draft picks: does anybody think the yanks will offer arbitration to their FAs or is the risk of them accepting to great…Giambi, Pudge, Abreu.

  91. Josh September 10th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    Ahem, David Ortiz just bunted. If he can bunt, then anyone can bunt.

  92. Al from BK( The key to winning is Calvin Pace.) September 10th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    “I believed a few weeks ago that the Yankees were making a mistake leaving Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Mark Melancon and their other prospects in the minors. But maybe it makes sense. Let those players play games that matter and go home with a good feeling.

    Subjecting them to the atmosphere around the Yankees now isn’t going to help.”

  93. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    Ahem, David Ortiz just bunted. If he can bunt, then anyone can bunt.

    But Micheal Kay saids he does not like to bunt there besides it’s Papi’s first bunt all season so it’s too risky :lol:

  94. Al from BK( The key to winning is Calvin Pace.) September 10th, 2008 at 11:13 pm

    ““I believed a few weeks ago that the Yankees were making a mistake leaving Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Mark Melancon and their other prospects in the minors. But maybe it makes sense. Let those players play games that matter and go home with a good feeling.

    Subjecting them to the atmosphere around the Yankees now isn’t going to help.””

    I agree bringing up the young guys to play for this beaten team would be a bad idea. Jete better get a handle on reality and start booking charity events and ford commercial shoots for October because he’ll have a bunch of free time.

  95. Al from BK( The key to winning is Calvin Pace.) September 10th, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    “Too bad none of Sranton players are even remotely likely to help the big league club anytime soon.”

    Melancon, Hughes, Miranda, hmmm ok.

  96. ERâ„¢ (The Final Seasonâ„¢) September 10th, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    Jason Bay wins it :(

  97. Tyler September 10th, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    You’re the best Pete. It’s one thing to blog a team thats headed for the postseason… but its another thing to provide steady updates on a lifeless team like the 2008 Yankees. You have done a superb job since the Yankees fell out of the race, and you really deserve credit for maintaining the quality of this blog.

    Cheers!

  98. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    I would attempt to bring up the Colin Curtis, Chris Garcia, Humberto Sanchez and Eric Duncan types. They would have earned it through playoff performance and would have chips on thier shoulders.

  99. Ariel September 10th, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    I am coming to the conclusion that I totally misjudged Girardi. My sense was that he was an aggressive no-nonsense guy who would take any player to task for not giving it 110% and would “tell it like is’ and certainly not live in fantasyland or assume his audience had a collective IQ of 50 and would buy his silly, if not delusional, comments. Well, I was wrong. If he doesn’t wake up and smell the roses, he will not last more than a few months into the 09 season, as Cashman will be retained, and do nothing of consequence on the free agency market or via trades and bring back the same old over the hill losers who move quickly only when its time to pick up their bloated paychecks. Cashman will do his typical “mea culpa” on more than one occasion but Girardi will pay the price. If Girardi has any sense whatsoever, he will revamp his coaching staff, jettison the do-nothings, first and foremost being Meacham and literally “beg” Bowa to come back for the obvious reasons the most significant of which is to constantly be in Cano’s face. That alone will not do it, but bringing the best clutch hitter in baseball back to his roots might.

  100. Bronx Jeers September 10th, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    “Boo your corney”

    Boo my corney?

    Trevor,

    I reject your insult on the grounds of improper word usage and incorrect spelling. Your interjection use is also woefully understated.

    Should read:

    BOOOOOO! You’re corny.

    Please revise and submit again.

  101. PAT M September 10th, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    They were just going thru the paces today…..Once again they had a chance to open up the game in the first inning, they plate just two ( a balk brought in one )….How many games this year they open up the game with great chances to score 3-4 runs and produce maybe 1 or 2….A strange October it’s going to be for us all…..An Spring Training in 6 months away……Long dark and cold winter awaits, unless you live out here, and then it’s just a long winter….UCLA basketball starts when ?????

  102. Al from BK( The key to winning is Calvin Pace.) September 10th, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    “Bowa to come back for the obvious reasons the most significant of which is to constantly be in Cano’s face. That alone will not do it, but bringing the best clutch hitter in baseball back to his roots might.”

    I think both of these are crucial to 09 success. Bringing in Manny on a shorter term deal 2-3 years is way better than ponying up 8 years 160 million for Tex. Bowa coming back is even more important watch Cano hit .320 next year and win a gold glove with Bowa back.

  103. ERâ„¢ (The Final Seasonâ„¢) September 10th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    Let me guess, the Sox somehow get out of this jam once again.

    Mr. Clutch, Mark Kotsay wins it

  104. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Don’t worry, even if TB losses tonight, they’ve got a 3 game winning streak starting on Friday.

  105. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Trenton gave it a good effort down 7 in the 9th they staged a 4 run comeback only to fall short. This Thunder team has heart.

    Kevin Russo reaches on fielding error by third baseman Wes Hodges.

    Edwar Gonzalez walks. Kevin Russo to 2nd.

    James Cooper grounds into a force out, fielded by second baseman Brandon Pinckney. Kevin Russo to 3rd. Edwar Gonzalez out at 2nd. James Cooper to 1st.

    Reegie Corona grounds out to first baseman Stephen Head.
    Kevin Russo scores. James Cooper to 2nd.

    Ramiro Pena singles on a ground ball to shortstop Joshua Rodriguez. James Cooper to 3rd.

    Austin Jackson doubles (2) on a fly ball to center fielder Nathan Panther. James Cooper scores. Ramiro Pena scores.

    Chris Malec singles on a ground ball to center fielder Nathan Panther. Austin Jackson scores.

    Colin Curtis walks. Chris Malec to 2nd.
    Pitcher Change: Erik Stiller replaces Randy Newsom.

    P. J. Pilittere grounds out, second baseman Brandon Pinckney to first baseman Stephen Head.

  106. Bronx Jeers September 10th, 2008 at 11:35 pm

    Thanks Brandon,

    Awesome to hear that AJax got a big hit with 2 out.

  107. stuart September 10th, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    JEter and Girardi are in fantasy land..

    WHy can’t they just say we stink and deserve our fate.

    We have fallen to the point we care about the SWB series!!!!! It is not about wins and losses but about prospects….

  108. Pepitone September 10th, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    I hate the Red Sox!!

    I’ve hated the Red Sox since the days of Tom Yawkey, Yaz, and Lonborg. It was great to see the Cardinals beat them in the 67 World Series, and the Reds in 75, and the Mets in 86.

    Be that as it may, I gotta give credit where credit is due, I see no one standing in their way of another WS championship. They have a rich farm system, they have a GM who knows when to hold em and when to fold em (cf. Manny), and an owner who allows the baseball people to make baseball decisions. He’s also willing to spend money as long as the money is spent wisely. Oh, and they also have one of the best managers in the business.

    The Yankees used to be like that a long time ago.

  109. Scorpio September 10th, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    The media is a trip, they get on Jeter & Girardi for not acknowledging that the season is over while at the same time rank on A-Rod when he “supposedly” implies that the Yanks are out of it.

  110. pat September 10th, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    Can Pena channel his inner Giambi and take Timlin deep?

  111. pat September 10th, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    Called it.

  112. Scorpio September 10th, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    Carlos Pena did it!

  113. Nick in SF September 10th, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    That’s a good way to beat the shift.

    Someone get a tape of that to Giambi.

  114. Bob(The Original) September 10th, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    Pena!!!!

  115. Nick in SF September 10th, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    stuart, Girardi is on your fantasy team? What?!??!

    Oh, I misread that. Sorry.

  116. Scorpio September 10th, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    Poor Timlin, I hope he gets a police escort home tonight. I think his life may be in danger.

  117. ray (sox fan) September 10th, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    Theo has authorized me to arrange a trade with you guys. You get Timlin and you give us a bag of used balls.

  118. tim boat September 10th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    “Too bad none of Sranton players are even remotely likely to help the big league club anytime soon.”
    Melancon, Hughes, Miranda, hmmm ok.

    Juan Miranda = Wilson Betemit.

  119. ERâ„¢ (The Final Seasonâ„¢) September 10th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    Oh boy, looks like Yuckilis’—-or Jason Bay’s—-grand slam wins it :(

  120. Pepitone September 10th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    “The media is a trip, they get on Jeter & Girardi for not acknowledging that the season is over while at the same time rank on A-Rod when he “supposedly” implies that the Yanks are out of it.”

    Arod said that? Well, even though I still want to get rid of that overblown choker, I appreciate the fact that he calls it right.

    The Yankees are out of it!! They’ve been out of it since Joba went down. Girardi and Jeter are treating all of us like pre-schoolers.

    I am not a Boston Celtic fan by any stretch, but in the 1984 NBA Finals, after getting blown out in game 3, Larry Bird called his teammates a bunch of “sissies.” They went on to win the next 3 out of 4, and the championship over my Lakers.

    Let the politicians lie and spin, we expect that from them, but not from our baseball teams. Come on Joe, tell it like it is, we can take it, and so can the players.

  121. ray (sox fan) September 10th, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    This game is getting interesting.

  122. Bronx Jeers September 10th, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    Percival working his hardest to blow the lead. Come on Troy !!

  123. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 10th, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    Juan Miranda = Wilson Betemit.

    He’s not K prone

  124. Bronx Jeers September 11th, 2008 at 12:02 am

    Bottom 14/Bases loaded/ no out/ 4-1 rays/ Youk vs Jason Hammel

  125. Brandon (We have a soft captain and a softer sidekick..true story)..."we paid today, we lose today, das it". September 11th, 2008 at 12:04 am

    walkoff GS ?

    3 run double ?

  126. Bronx Jeers September 11th, 2008 at 12:13 am

    Sox lose a real tough one. Rays looking like their old clutch selves. Sox don’t have an easy schedule the rest of the way.

  127. Nick in SF September 11th, 2008 at 12:21 am

    So up until this series, each team had swept the other at home, right? So now Tampa, not a great road team, got up into Boston’s grill in Fenway and took 2 of 3. Interesting.

    And now they have to… er, get to… play us. Start the Ponsanity!

  128. Rally Point September 11th, 2008 at 12:22 am

    Glad to see Tampa Bay beat the Sox again. If the Yankees can’t make it to the postseason this year, it’s Rays all the way for me.

    I think it’ll be good for this team to miss the playoffs. Nothing is given in this game and maybe they can learn how to come together better as a squad to overcome these defects than fade at the end of the season. We need this if we’re ever to climb the mountain again.

  129. For $13 I'll be a Macadamia Nut September 11th, 2008 at 12:31 am

    I don’t see the Rays beating the Angels.

    I would rather see a NL team win this year, Cubs or Dodgers would be my hope.

  130. Buddy Biancalana September 11th, 2008 at 12:33 am

    Agreed on all points Rally.

  131. ray (sox fan) September 11th, 2008 at 12:44 am

    If a NL team wins the World Series I really would like to see the Cubs win it. They have gone so long without winning it that I think it would be cool.

    The Dodgers are having a hard enough time in a division where hardly anyone plays 500 ball. I will be surprised if they go very far.

  132. Six Degrees of Holbrook September 11th, 2008 at 12:56 am

    From our Hal to THE Hal in 6 steps.

    1. Hal Steinbrenner/ Who is part owner of the…

    2. N Y Yankees/Who are the former employers of disgraced pitcher…

    3. Roger Clemens/ Who shares last name with …

    4. Samuel Langhorne Clemens/Who is better known as…

    5. Mark Twain/Who is famously portrayed by the great character actor…

    6. Hal Holbrook!

  133. G. Love September 11th, 2008 at 1:13 am

    This is going to be a long off season and I think the media in this town who are so used to the Yankees being in the playoffs are going be particularly dangerous when it comes to Girardi’s job security starting next season.

    I feel pretty strongly that Girardi will start the season with the axe over his head and be gone by the All star break.

    His style of “truth telling” with the media hasn’t endeared him to anyone and I don’t think he’s going to have too many supporters after seeing him lose the team so early in the season like Torre never did.

    God forbid Torre make it to a World Series and all hell will break loose and the NY media will crush the Yankees.

    I think they almost need a regime change at the top by letting Cashman walk just to start to change the taste in everyone’s mouth.

    Someone different needs to pick players and put the team together with a plan other than looking at the backs of baseball cards and drooling.

    I’m very anxious to get this all over with and see what happens. Who stays. Who goes.

    The off season is the only season we have left to look forward to.

    I hope Hal has a list of potential GM candidates he would pursue if Cashman walks and I hope if they do get a new GM, that GM is allowed to pick his own manager.

    All Girardi proved to me this season is he was not as advertised and players regressed under his watch and he lost the whole team while they were in the thick of a pennant race and we watched them dog it to the finish line.

    He gets a D for the season in my book. The only reason he doesn’t get an F is his handling of the bullpen which even now I’m starting to feel is a bit overrated.

  134. Nate September 11th, 2008 at 1:16 am

    Like there is any shot the Sox lose to the Rays in the playoffs.

    Beckett, Lester, Dice K

    No chance

  135. Buddy Biancalana September 11th, 2008 at 1:43 am

    Nate-

    Didn’t Beckett pitch tonight? Lester & Dice K also pitched. Who won 2 of 3?

  136. mel September 11th, 2008 at 1:46 am

    Nick,

    I’m an AL person, but if I had to root:

    1. Phillies
    2. AL Central team
    3. Brewers
    4. Dodgers
    5. Cubs
    6. Angels
    7. Mets
    8. Sux

  137. Buddy Biancalana September 11th, 2008 at 1:49 am

    mel-

    How can you ever root for the Sox? Just can’t do it, ever.

  138. mel September 11th, 2008 at 1:55 am

    Buddy,

    LOL. Oversight.

    Nate,

    Sox aren’t beating anybody without home field. Talk about being a product of your stadium. They won’t beat the Rays or Angels. They have a puncher’s chance against the Central, though.

    And wouldn’t it be interesting if Minny took the WC (5GB)? Without looking at the schedules it would be tough. Toronto’s a long shot unless they go on another 10 game win streak. They’ll play spoiler for sure.

    Twins just picked up another fan. :)

  139. Ariel September 11th, 2008 at 1:55 am

    Jeter’s not really in a state of denial. Looks to me like he is just going through the motions…for the first time in his career, anticipating the end of this horrendous season and looking forward to some quiet time on his yacht off Tampa to think about next year, and coming to the realization that he will never recapture the success of the 90′s. The future doesn’t look any better since the wheel spinning escapades of management will continue on as the ineptitude runs from top to bottom with little visibility of change. The farm system is a joke, Brett Gardner was a top prospect? Generation Tre, or is it Generation Trash? Just a lot of hype about nothing which the local press ran with until it became evident as to what is really was.

  140. Nick in SF September 11th, 2008 at 2:35 am

    Six Degrees of Holbrook… hilarious.

    You can also do it this way:

    1. Hal Steinbrenner, co-owner of Yankees…

    2. The former team of Wade Boggs, who…

    3. Appeared on an episode of Cheers with…

    4. Woody Harrelson, whose character Woody was…

    5. An actor who played Mark Twain, just like…

    6. Hal Holbrook

  141. ohhh mo its cano! September 11th, 2008 at 4:34 am

    i applaud u all for not feeding into the crap some of the fans from other teams say in this blog. Our time will come…..again. Hang in there folks.

  142. Frank G September 11th, 2008 at 4:52 am

    This is an absolute disgrace to all yankee fans, all of new york, and the yankee staff. This will be the first time in 13 years the yankees will not make the playoffs, giving way to the now effective “curse of Joe Torre”. The absolute worst thing to do was to let Joe Torre leave after he led the Yanks to 12…12!! straight playoff appearances INCLUDING 4 world series. Obviously fans, media, even NON yankee fans, EVEN Sux fans, would expect us to make the playoffs but this is just embarrassing! The Rays will end up choking toward seasons end and again the Red Sux will claim the division….I think, not just me, but if us yankee fans see them win the world series one more time i think we’d prob go insane. Obviously the sons of George made that pitiful decision to NOT go for Ce Ce Sabathia and Yohan last year and to try and bank of ian kennedy and phil hughes..dumb. When in doubt GO FOR THE TALENT not the prospects theyre too unpredictable which obv showed. Yeah we need pitching, we’ve needed it since 2003!…Moose is straight for now but he’ll be gettin washed up come next year, Andy’s unpredicatable…AND PLEASEEEE nooo more Rasner or Ponsone pleaseee they get destroyedd. But, the Yankee pitching isn’t all a lost cause. Wang should be ready by next season, Aceves pitched phenominal in his 1st MLB start the other night hopefully he’ll be as reliable in the future, Pavano is overrall looking pretty decent, the possible return of Joba as a starter next year…AND Ce Ce Sabathia will become a free agent come the off season and he’s already said he wants a contract HIGHER then Santana’s 140 mil and who better to give it to him then the Yanks, watch out for that in the off season. Its not just pitching either our offense has been off we have our good days and our bad…the Yanks have one of the ELITE line ups in the MLB, where Jeter and A-Rod have a higher combined pay roll then the WHOLE TAMPA BAY RAYS TEAM! AND THEYRE IN 1ST. Go Figure. Not just them but Giambi, Abreu, Matsui, Damon..AND NOW the addition of Pudge (future hall-of-famer) and Nady who has been SPOT ON since coming over…yeah, we got talent but it needs to be utilized in a better way the Giradi is using it. Hopefully next season a lot of decisions will be made and Giradi will figure out a way to get the kinks out of the offense and have them showing off their REAL talent. I don’t care what anybody says but A-Rod still is the best player in the league, he just needs to handle the new york pressure better and not let it effect his game…Highest paid athlete ever, hitting clean-up, playing in NY, has put up astounding numbers since his rookie season…yeah he’s going to have a lot of pressure because everyone expects him to do well but he WILL HAVE the worst season of his career this year and he will be hearing it from the media and the fans, but i think he’ll be back next year full-force but relaxxxedddd like he was in the 2007 season. The Last thing i’ll say is that the yankee players, staff, giradi, cashman, steinbrenners are going to get a lotttt of heat come seasons end when they dont make the playoffs. Media and fans will be all over the collapse, its going to be an outrage for NY, there will be a lot of dissappointed fans, like me, but we gotta look foward…2009, new year, new season, new stadium, and hopefully some new valuable add-ons.

  143. coops2001 September 11th, 2008 at 5:57 am

    I hate to say it, but it’s not just the fact that we passed on Santana (though with all three of the players we would have traded spending time in Scranton being an indicator on how bad this turned out), the fact is that the NYY’s team era is better than last year. The anemic hitting, esp. in the clutch, plus poor fielding, has lead us to this point.

    The really scary thing is that the NYYs need improvement in many places (CF, 1B, starting pitching, BP, maybe even catcher if Posada can not play the position full time). I’m afraid that there is no one simple solution, we have many problems that need fixing.

  144. murphydog September 11th, 2008 at 6:12 am

    “I mean, the Yankees suck this year. And they’re bitter and mad and they’re making excuses over that. And now, you know, now they got Tom [Brady] going down, so, you know, New York’s excited.” Curt Schilling.

    Dear Schill: Making excuses? Such as what, exactly? We know the team sucks this year but from what I read no NYY fan is letting anybody off the hook. No, we are looking for a length of rope with which to hang someone.

    Moreover, Yankee fans are not the same group as the Jet fans although there is overlap. Unlike Boston, where’s there’s one regional (New England) NFL team and one MLB team, New York’s a big town with two hometown NFL teams to root for in football and two MLB clubs (not to mention the NBA and NHL).

    Yeah, Yankee fans are miserable. We look so much like Boston from a couple of years ago, it turns my stomach. But to state there is link between a bad Yankee season and palpable glee at Brady’s injury is a little, well, “small town.”

    You, Curt, are the only athlete that anybody here was happy to see sidelined. And that was not because we didn’t want to see you on the field – we’ve been doing OK against you lately. We were happy to see you gone because we enjoyed not having to listen to you so much. Take care.

  145. Thomo September 11th, 2008 at 6:22 am

    Whether the Yankees should or should not have traded for Santana will not be known for several years. Give the young arms time to develop – my take, Hughes and Kennedy will both reach their potential – and that no trade in 5 years time will look very good indeed.

    For some reason folks fixate on the salary levels – you can’t win if you are Cashman – if he didn’t negotiate those salaries and Giambi et al., walked as a result, everyone would you be screaming just as loud.

    This group had an amazing run. This year through a combination of bad luck injuries and off-years for folks they could always count on, the run is over. The team and certainly its’ fans have no birthright of success – they need to rebuild and will.

    I still hope they do it through acquisition and development of the best young talent with a fill-in of a key person or two by free agency or trade. I do hope they bolster their scouting team and physical training areas.

    On balance, the Yankees have always been more about Joe D, Mickey, Thurman, Mattlingly, Jeter and MO then they have been about Dooley Womack or Horace Clarke!

  146. murphydog September 11th, 2008 at 6:25 am

    IMO, Jeter is not having trouble with reality. He is the Captain and is following the NAVY rule of being the last man off the sinking ship. It’s an honorable position, not a sign of stupidity or irrationality. When the season is finally over he will take responsibility for his season and move on. Just imagine what the lunatic fringe – not to mention Hank, Hal and Cash – would have to say if Jeter’s comments were more like “We’ll it’s over, but we’ll be back next year.” Girardi is just trying to do the same thing. For all the Joe G haters and “told you so” fans, do you seriously think Joe Torre would be explicitly conceding the season now if he were still here? Get real.

  147. Not surprised September 11th, 2008 at 6:34 am

    Derek Jeter is in a state of denial. After making the playoffs 12 years in a row, he can’t seem to come to come to grips with the idea that the Yankees will go home on Sept. 28.

    Why does that not surprise me, Jeter doesn’t seem to be good at adjusting to new things….from his comments to the media, approach to teammates, heck he’s never even change his uniform style or hair cut in the 13 years he’s been here. He’s not a good captain because he’s so afraid of what people will think of him he’s not willing to speak is mind to the fans/media…but because he polite about it and says what you want to hear (oppose to what you NEED to hear) people mistake that as confidence.

    Jeter is just as bad as many of the fans, thinks things are suppose to be handed to him (ala the playoffs). As the captain he should have been trying to light a fire under the rest of the team months ago but yet he’s never deterred from the “we need to win games” No kidding Sherlock!! YA THINK?? Maybe this is a wake up call for him (and everyone else on the team) that they need to come back stronger and play with heart next year…and at the end of the game they can say we left everything we had on the diamond.

    I’m not as worried about the offense next year….except maybe getting another big bat. Hopefully H&H, Cash, Girardi and others can get some REAL pitching for us and we should be okay.

  148. murphydog September 11th, 2008 at 7:18 am

    The senseless, ignorant fan hate continues in the search for a convenient scapegoat for 2008.

    “Derek Jeter is in a state of denial. After making the playoffs 12 years in a row, he can’t seem to come to come to grips with the idea that the Yankees will go home on Sept. 28.”

    While I’m not in Jeter’s head, I’ve watched him closely for the last 13 years or so. Jeter can’t come to grips with getting into the WS and losing either. It’s not a matter of denial. He never says “die” and he never gives up and he never accepts anything other than winning it all. It’s called striving for excellence, not denial. It’s an inspirational thing, leading by example, the kind of thing most people expect from their leaders. How in heaven’s name is that an example of Jeter thinking things should be handed to him? Is he supposed to waterboard Cano when he doesn’t concentrate, can Jeter make everybody five years younger? He’s the team Captain, not Harry Potter.

    And then there’s this one: “He’s not a good captain because he’s so afraid of what people will think of him he’s not willing to speak is mind to the fans/media…”

    Jeter’s not the captain of the media or the fans. He’s the captain of the Yankees. He’s a liaison between the team and the fans and media. His first loyalty is to the team. Thus, he speaks his mind to the team and repeating what is said to him or what he says to others in confidence is not good leadership. What goes on in that clubhouse stays in that clubhouse at least where Jeter is concerned. (I can’t say the same about some of the other veterans). Keeping your mouth shut about private things is called loyalty and is another sign of good, solid, respectable, leadership.

  149. Doreen September 11th, 2008 at 8:12 am

    murphydog -

    Amen to that.

  150. Doreen September 11th, 2008 at 8:21 am

    Now that I’ve come to grips with the season being what it is, I’m very excited for the off-season to begin. Not the post-season. I really don’t care about the playoffs, with the possible exception that I don’t want the Red Sox to win anything, nor do I want the Rays to win it all, though it would make a great story. Someone posted in an earlier thread that there will be inevitable and unbearable and interminable references to the low-payroll Rays versus the high-payroll Yankees. How they can ignore the high payrolls of the Red Sox, Mets and Cubs just floors me, but you know, whatever.

    I guess if I were forced to choose a rooting interest it would be the Cubs so that they can put their goat curse to rest once and for all. If the Yankees were playoff-bound I’d root for the Dodgers, but I admit to being human and therefore imperfect, so I really wouldn’t relish all the accolades going to Torre (even though I am/was a Torre fan). My feeling is that instead of just being able to say what a good job Torre did and leave it at that, there will be the inevitable, unavoidable, interminable jabs at the Yankees. It’s not going to be a great October no matter how you slice it.

    So, here’s to skipping over October entirely and racing through to November and new possibilities.

  151. Doreen September 11th, 2008 at 8:24 am

    Oh, it also won’t matter that Torre will have probably won fewer games in an easier division. And the bottom line is, if a team wins its division, it truly doesn’t matter how many wins it took, does it?

  152. YankeeDiva September 11th, 2008 at 8:28 am

    Jeter’s not the captain of the media or the fans. He’s the captain of the Yankees. He’s a liaison between the team and the fans and media. His first loyalty is to the team.

    Well that’s how I feel, it doesn’t mean that I don’t root for him to succeed or that I boo him when he does bad. I just don’t think he’s a good captain. You say he is a liaison between the team, fans and media. In what way has he been a good liaison?? What words has he uttered about the team that you, I or any other person on this board couldn’t have said and be accurate.

    I have never seen a team do so poorly and every one BUT the captain take the heat for it. There is something missing on this team no spark on the field (I personally couldn’t care less how well they get along in the clubhouse or outside of the ballpark…that’s not why I watch the Yankees play. Isn’t that leadership up to the managers, the CAPTAIN and the vets? It was so clear that it was missing this year that even other teams noticed it let alone the fans. If he does show that emotion to the players why can’t he show it to the fans….let us know that they are trying, that are doing something to stay in the game…..in my world actions speak much louder than words (“We have to win games”) thanks for that insight Mr. Captain….

    I know he has four rings….but those four rings aren’t getting them in the play offs this year and certainly aren’t going bring home #27. Its fine to appreciate the past but its another thing to live in the past. Jeter should be held accountable for this year just like everyone else on the team is being held accountable.

  153. Jacques September 11th, 2008 at 9:30 am

    “Derek Jeter is in a state of denial. After making the playoffs 12 years in a row, he can’t seem to come to come to grips with the idea that the Yankees will go home on Sept. 28.”

    sure.. because Jeter always publically shares his true thoughts in postgame interviews.. he’s as bland as it gets in interviews, so yeah, let’s take what he says at face value and assign him with a ‘state of denial’

    geez people..

  154. Joey's Poodle September 11th, 2008 at 9:56 am

    With no Yankees to root for in October I’ll have to revert to my childhood team the Dodgers. That will give me a chance to root for Torre and Mattingly, and, I know this may sound strange, but — an extra way to root against the Red Sox.

    This came to me last night watching their interminable loss against the Rays. The ESPN announcers were doing their usual whitewash job on the Sox and among other things were pretending that the Sox had a better chance of winning with Manny’s replacement. As they spoke, Manny was outscoring the entire Sox team, sending multiple HR’s out the huge center of Petco Park in San Diego. The hypocrisy was stunning. So yeah, I’d like to see Manny show up the Sox AND ESPN in the postseason. Why not rub a little salt?

  155. 86w183 September 11th, 2008 at 10:29 am

    I’ll root for the Cubs and Angels. The Cubs because they’ll replace the Sawx as the team that has tossed aside history and the Angels because they play the game the right way day in and day out better than anyone else.

    There are two ways to look at 2009. Either the Yanks can go after the big $$$ FA and try to be a strong contender OR they can try to finish the transition out of the older, slower more expensive era but that wouild almost certainly mean no post-season again.

    Long term that makes the most sense, but I don’t see how they can open the new Stadium and charge the prices they are going to charge and hope to get much better results with a collection of aging players they hope will perform at a higher level. The only intelligent way to do that is limit themselves to the youngest FA which to me is less risky than the over 30 crowd.

  156. bigjf September 11th, 2008 at 11:06 am

    I can’t root for the Angels, if I had to pick an AL team it would be the Twins.

  157. Steve September 11th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Shut it down or not, the Yankees haven’t looked very scrappy all year. Lousy season. Blech.

  158. Karen September 11th, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    Pepitone said: “Oh, and one more thing – GET RID OF A-CHOKE!!! Three strikeouts in 4 at bats, who was pitching, Bob Gibson?

    If A-Rod is THAT disinterested in the rest of the Yankee season, why doesn’t he just opt out and go home? Maybe he has somewhere else to be, like Hollywood, Las Vegas, Aruba…

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