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		<title>By: zellyanks91</title>
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		<dc:creator>zellyanks91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil Hughes has gotten the callâ€¦finally! I guess he finally earned his way back. Congrats to Mr. Hughes.

Last 4 starts in the minors..(regular season &amp; playoffs)

(W-L) 2-0  25IP  18H  4R  4ER  9BB  38K   â€¦..WOW

Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Hughes has gotten the callâ€¦finally! I guess he finally earned his way back. Congrats to Mr. Hughes.</p>
<p>Last 4 starts in the minors..(regular season &amp; playoffs)</p>
<p>(W-L) 2-0  25IP  18H  4R  4ER  9BB  38K   â€¦..WOW</p>
<p>Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the NOTEBOOK:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Barring a failure to get those nine hits or a 1,240-hit performance by Jose Molina over the homestand, it&#039;s a record Jeter will hold forever.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Either Pete&#039;s rubbing off on him or Jake came with the requisite bit of humor/snark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the NOTEBOOK:</p>
<blockquote><p>Barring a failure to get those nine hits or a 1,240-hit performance by Jose Molina over the homestand, it&#8217;s a record Jeter will hold forever.</p></blockquote>
<p>Either Pete&#8217;s rubbing off on him or Jake came with the requisite bit of humor/snark.</p>
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		<title>By: Kill-Schill(ing)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kill-Schill(ing)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to see Bobby Abreu in pinstripes for two more years.   He&#039;s earned HIS stripes as perhaps one of the most reliably productive Yankee and he has aged well.

Next year, he&#039;ll be a younger younger 35 than Matsui or Damon or perhaps, even Jeter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to see Bobby Abreu in pinstripes for two more years.   He&#8217;s earned HIS stripes as perhaps one of the most reliably productive Yankee and he has aged well.</p>
<p>Next year, he&#8217;ll be a younger younger 35 than Matsui or Damon or perhaps, even Jeter.</p>
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		<title>By: Tidrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tidrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a feeling that before all is said and done Phil Coke will stake a claim for a starting spot in the rotation sometime next year. The kid has a good fastball and sweeping curve and his control is pretty good unlike Sean Henn whose demise as a Yankee starter could be attributed to his lack of location on his pitches. I also like Cokes&#039; mound presence. He looks like a battler and seems very confident and aggressive. The Yankees could really use a young southpaw in the rotation and here&#039;s hoping Coke fits the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a feeling that before all is said and done Phil Coke will stake a claim for a starting spot in the rotation sometime next year. The kid has a good fastball and sweeping curve and his control is pretty good unlike Sean Henn whose demise as a Yankee starter could be attributed to his lack of location on his pitches. I also like Cokes&#8217; mound presence. He looks like a battler and seems very confident and aggressive. The Yankees could really use a young southpaw in the rotation and here&#8217;s hoping Coke fits the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: trisha - I support Sidney Ponson and believe that Arod will start to hit.</title>
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		<dc:creator>trisha - I support Sidney Ponson and believe that Arod will start to hit.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R-Tek -

thanks for that.  If you don&#039;t mind, I am going to quote you in the thread above.</description>
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<p>thanks for that.  If you don&#8217;t mind, I am going to quote you in the thread above.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yanks should sign Sabathia and bring back moose and pettitte. That&#039;ll leave them with Wang,CC,Moose,pettitte and joba can start the year as the 5th starter. I say keep Hughes,kennedy,aceves in AAA for more seasoning untill joba comes close to his innings cap. send him to the bullpen and bring up the best of the 3 to take over that 5th spot and with all veterens anchoring the rotation there&#039;s not so much pressure on the 5th spot. and with joba starting the year in the rotation yanks will get an early boost to take some of the pressure off these kids...i say keep em all it&#039;s more interesting than watching overrpaid athletes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yanks should sign Sabathia and bring back moose and pettitte. That&#8217;ll leave them with Wang,CC,Moose,pettitte and joba can start the year as the 5th starter. I say keep Hughes,kennedy,aceves in AAA for more seasoning untill joba comes close to his innings cap. send him to the bullpen and bring up the best of the 3 to take over that 5th spot and with all veterens anchoring the rotation there&#8217;s not so much pressure on the 5th spot. and with joba starting the year in the rotation yanks will get an early boost to take some of the pressure off these kids&#8230;i say keep em all it&#8217;s more interesting than watching overrpaid athletes.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COL 88, if what you say is true about Brian (that he&#039;s completely confused about what to do about/with Phil), then he doesn&#039;t belong running a major league franchise. The man said that Phil would not be called up until at least September 2007, but rushed him when injuries decimated the staff. The kid showed tremendous promise last year, in between the injuries and rehab, evening saving the Yankees season in the ALDS. This year was frustrating, but Brian HAS to deal with that. Phil got injured - what can anyone do about that? I firmly believe that he was feeling the effects of his injury during his bad outings, but I have no proof. Even if he was completely healthy, he was a baby at that point - 21- and he just turned 22 in August. Young pitchers struggle, even future HOFers. Does Brian not understand this? He seems clueless about young pitchers - I&#039;m a huge Cash fan, but I&#039;m really beginning to wonder if he is the right man for the job based on this fact alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COL 88, if what you say is true about Brian (that he&#8217;s completely confused about what to do about/with Phil), then he doesn&#8217;t belong running a major league franchise. The man said that Phil would not be called up until at least September 2007, but rushed him when injuries decimated the staff. The kid showed tremendous promise last year, in between the injuries and rehab, evening saving the Yankees season in the ALDS. This year was frustrating, but Brian HAS to deal with that. Phil got injured &#8211; what can anyone do about that? I firmly believe that he was feeling the effects of his injury during his bad outings, but I have no proof. Even if he was completely healthy, he was a baby at that point &#8211; 21- and he just turned 22 in August. Young pitchers struggle, even future HOFers. Does Brian not understand this? He seems clueless about young pitchers &#8211; I&#8217;m a huge Cash fan, but I&#8217;m really beginning to wonder if he is the right man for the job based on this fact alone.</p>
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		<title>By: bodhisattva</title>
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		<dc:creator>bodhisattva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tidrow September 13th, 2008 at 10:49 am
&quot;Itâ€™s mind boggling how impatient some Yankee fans are. Can you give some of these young guys a chance? Give Hughes and Melky and Kennedy and Gardner and Cano and all the rest of these young guys you want to unceremoniously dump in the garbage a chance will ya? Not every successful major leaguer hits the ground running you know. Thatâ€™s the beauty of the homegrown talent. Watching a player grow and blossom is a true pleasure that many fans love to see and talk about but few are patient enough to let happen.&quot;

MIND BOGGLING is no abuse of hyperbole; that&#039;s exactly what it is. The people you&#039;re asking to &quot;give a chance&quot; to younger players are, finally, not worth talking to. They have never planted a garden, it seems, they want their vegetables and fruit from the A&amp;P, because they don&#039;t have to take a risk that the seeds they plant may not develope.

Well, so much for imagination, vision, and as you so eloquently state, the &quot;true pleasure&quot; of watching those players grow.

Hughes was filthy last night. He&#039;s 21 years old. If I could go back in time, and was offered Santana for Hughes STRAIGHT UP, my answer was then and is now an unequivocal NO. The people here groaning about how we &quot;blew it&quot; will fall into the ranks of &quot;I never wanted Hughes dealt&quot; when he&#039;s dealing for us five years from now and Santana in decline.

People who wanted this and want Cano traded, IMO, have no vision, no patience, and are only interested in short-term gain, which you don&#039;t get, any way, by making stupid moves. They don&#039;t know what &quot;true pleasure&quot; is, and are not interested in how winning is accomplished, they are too terrified of being viewed a loser to give any creative thought to what stupid moves will do to this team over the next half decade and beyond.

We have excellent young pitching in our ranks. We can add a free agent like Sabathia w/out having to give up a potentially great young position player (Cano), which would be utterly dumb. People here who say Orlando Hudson can replace him - I am sorry, I am laughing at you; your view isn&#039;t even worthy of me bothering to engage you any more in discussion.

 Wang is returning as well, so we&#039;re getting a proven starter for 2009 without doing something detrimental to our future.

Aceves is another plum who could fill a 4-5 spot efficiently. The bullpen is really looking like it will be one of the best in the majors for years to come, with Melancon, Dunn, Sanchez, etc. on the rise, and the kids who have had success this season at the Major League level.

Throw in your lot with the likes of us, Tidrow, who want the plants watered, not pulled out at the roots. The rest is just noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tidrow September 13th, 2008 at 10:49 am<br />
&#8220;Itâ€™s mind boggling how impatient some Yankee fans are. Can you give some of these young guys a chance? Give Hughes and Melky and Kennedy and Gardner and Cano and all the rest of these young guys you want to unceremoniously dump in the garbage a chance will ya? Not every successful major leaguer hits the ground running you know. Thatâ€™s the beauty of the homegrown talent. Watching a player grow and blossom is a true pleasure that many fans love to see and talk about but few are patient enough to let happen.&#8221;</p>
<p>MIND BOGGLING is no abuse of hyperbole; that&#8217;s exactly what it is. The people you&#8217;re asking to &#8220;give a chance&#8221; to younger players are, finally, not worth talking to. They have never planted a garden, it seems, they want their vegetables and fruit from the A&amp;P, because they don&#8217;t have to take a risk that the seeds they plant may not develope.</p>
<p>Well, so much for imagination, vision, and as you so eloquently state, the &#8220;true pleasure&#8221; of watching those players grow.</p>
<p>Hughes was filthy last night. He&#8217;s 21 years old. If I could go back in time, and was offered Santana for Hughes STRAIGHT UP, my answer was then and is now an unequivocal NO. The people here groaning about how we &#8220;blew it&#8221; will fall into the ranks of &#8220;I never wanted Hughes dealt&#8221; when he&#8217;s dealing for us five years from now and Santana in decline.</p>
<p>People who wanted this and want Cano traded, IMO, have no vision, no patience, and are only interested in short-term gain, which you don&#8217;t get, any way, by making stupid moves. They don&#8217;t know what &#8220;true pleasure&#8221; is, and are not interested in how winning is accomplished, they are too terrified of being viewed a loser to give any creative thought to what stupid moves will do to this team over the next half decade and beyond.</p>
<p>We have excellent young pitching in our ranks. We can add a free agent like Sabathia w/out having to give up a potentially great young position player (Cano), which would be utterly dumb. People here who say Orlando Hudson can replace him &#8211; I am sorry, I am laughing at you; your view isn&#8217;t even worthy of me bothering to engage you any more in discussion.</p>
<p> Wang is returning as well, so we&#8217;re getting a proven starter for 2009 without doing something detrimental to our future.</p>
<p>Aceves is another plum who could fill a 4-5 spot efficiently. The bullpen is really looking like it will be one of the best in the majors for years to come, with Melancon, Dunn, Sanchez, etc. on the rise, and the kids who have had success this season at the Major League level.</p>
<p>Throw in your lot with the likes of us, Tidrow, who want the plants watered, not pulled out at the roots. The rest is just noise.</p>
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		<title>By: R-Tek</title>
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		<dc:creator>R-Tek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trisha, I agree-- Kennedy sucks, don&#039;t let anyone tell you otherwise.

The fact that we let Rasner make 20 starts and Ponson make 15 starts in a &quot;rebuilding year&quot; while Ian was lighting up AAA tells us all we need to know about what they thought of Kennedy. 

He is Igawa from the right side. With all the arms coming through the system, there is no place for Kennedy. He is trade bait. Hughes has a future with us, Ian does not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trisha, I agree&#8211; Kennedy sucks, don&#8217;t let anyone tell you otherwise.</p>
<p>The fact that we let Rasner make 20 starts and Ponson make 15 starts in a &#8220;rebuilding year&#8221; while Ian was lighting up AAA tells us all we need to know about what they thought of Kennedy. </p>
<p>He is Igawa from the right side. With all the arms coming through the system, there is no place for Kennedy. He is trade bait. Hughes has a future with us, Ian does not.</p>
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		<title>By: trisha - I support Sidney Ponson and believe that Arod will start to hit.</title>
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		<dc:creator>trisha - I support Sidney Ponson and believe that Arod will start to hit.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nice to see that Trisha is such an expert on pitching that she knows that Kennedy will have no worth whatsoever.&quot;

Macademia, because I don&#039;t spend 24-7 on these forums playing armchair manager doesn&#039;t mean that I don&#039;t observe or cannot make an informed judgment.  In fact I think it&#039;s a strength that I am not so emotionally bound up in every move ever made by the Yankees because it might give me just a smidgeon more of objectivity.  In any event, I, known for never giving up on any Yankee project by and large, have watched enough of Kennedy, both in the Bronx and then in person when he pitched in the finals for Scranton a short while ago, that I feel that he should not be allowed anywhere near the Bronx if it is in a Yankee uniform.  I did not say that Kennedy will have no worth whatsoever, I&#039;m saying that I don&#039;t believe he has what it takes to pitch for the New York Yankees.  Those are two very different statements.

Anyway, I ended it all by saying it was &quot;just my opinion&quot; which in the end here is all any of us has - our opinions.  The real experts are the ones who are paid to make the decisions.  They are not the ones posting on the lohud blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nice to see that Trisha is such an expert on pitching that she knows that Kennedy will have no worth whatsoever.&#8221;</p>
<p>Macademia, because I don&#8217;t spend 24-7 on these forums playing armchair manager doesn&#8217;t mean that I don&#8217;t observe or cannot make an informed judgment.  In fact I think it&#8217;s a strength that I am not so emotionally bound up in every move ever made by the Yankees because it might give me just a smidgeon more of objectivity.  In any event, I, known for never giving up on any Yankee project by and large, have watched enough of Kennedy, both in the Bronx and then in person when he pitched in the finals for Scranton a short while ago, that I feel that he should not be allowed anywhere near the Bronx if it is in a Yankee uniform.  I did not say that Kennedy will have no worth whatsoever, I&#8217;m saying that I don&#8217;t believe he has what it takes to pitch for the New York Yankees.  Those are two very different statements.</p>
<p>Anyway, I ended it all by saying it was &#8220;just my opinion&#8221; which in the end here is all any of us has &#8211; our opinions.  The real experts are the ones who are paid to make the decisions.  They are not the ones posting on the lohud blog.</p>
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