Game 149: Rays at Yankees
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YANKEES (78-70)
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Giambi !B
A. Rodriguez DH
Nady RF
Cano 2B
I. Rodriguez C
Ransom 3B
Gardner CF
Pavano RHP
Carl Pavano (2-1, 5.31) vs. the Tampa Bay hitters.
Edwin Jackson (11-10, 4.06) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: Thanks to Brian Heyman for calling in the lineup. … Late report time for the boys today, hence the late lineup. … Abreu played both games yesterday and may just be getting a day off. … The Yankees beat Jackson on Sept. 3 in Tampa. He lasted only 3.1 innings, giving up six runs on 11 hits. … The Yankees are 10-7 against the Rays. This is the final game of the season series. … The Yankees start the day 11 games out of first and nine back in the wild card with 14 games to play.
LOOK OUT, LOU: After going 6 for 7 in yesterday’s doubleheader, Derek Jeter now has 1,266 hits at Yankee Stadium and is just three hits shy of tying Lou Gehrig’s all-time record.
COKE IS IT: Rookie LHP Phil Coke has not allowed a run in the seven innings he has pitched.
KEEP IT UP: The Yankees got the countdown right in Game 2 last night. They had Don Larsen, David Cone and David Wells – all three authors of perfect games at Yankee Stadium – pull the lever.
IDLE CHATTER: After two solid starts, Carl Pavano has not pitched well since. His line in his last two starts: 9.1 innings, 12 hits, 8 runs, 3 walks, 3 strikeouts, 3 home runs.
HUGHES FOR WEDNESDAY: Phil Hughes arrived in town. Girardi won’t say whether he’ll start on Wednesday. But all indications are that he will.
WANG CHUCKS IT: For the first time since he was injured in June, Chien-Ming Wang played catch today. He could throw off the mound before the season is over, but only just to see how he feels.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 11:54 p.m.: The Yankees just announced that Hughes will start Wednesday against Chicago.
UPDATE, 2:48 p.m.: Jeter certainly didn’t waste any time taking care of that Lou Gehrig record. Oh, and he’s now hitting .307. … Meanwhile that’s 100 RBI for A-Rod and 92 for Giambi. The Big G also has 30 homers. You watch, he’ll get a two-year deal from somebody.
I hope that people appreciate what Jeter has done and continues to do. His many detractors lose sight of the guy’s consistency and what he means to this franchise. Years from now, Jeter and Mo will be the players people remember from this era of baseball in New York.
Lou Gehrig, I suspect, would be OK with Derek Jeter breaking his record.
UPDATE, 3:03 p.m.: Shocking, stunning news from Yankee Stadium as Carl Pavano has had to leave the game with an inury. In other news, fall is coming and the sky is blue. The best part will be Joe Girardi defending him after the game. The Rajah of Rehab is back.
UPDATE, 3:24 p.m.: Aside from Jeter’s HR, David Price has certainly been impressive. The Rays did it right, leaving him in the minors all season. It’ll be interesting to see if he makes the playoff roster. A hard-throwing lefty? Why not?
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big g hitting 3rd?
wow, Melky is still not getting any playing time despite being back for about 2 weeks.
Go Yanks! Go Giants!
And Alex’s neck still hurts him? Geez what the heck did he do on the off day. On second thought maybe I don’t want to know.
Sa don’t forget go JETS!!
I don’t know whether YES releases their ratings, but this is probably going to be the lowest-rated game of the year.
Gardner over Melky? wow did the young guy’s disappointed this season. but why not give him some playing time in what is now some meaningless game’s.
LOL Oops!
Go Jets! Beats the Patsies!
of course i meant to play him over damon or nady, i think you have to give the kids as much playing time possible.
read joel sherman in today’s ny post
finally, someone not sugarcoating what should have been said loud and clear after the 2005 season – the yanks are making GIANT front office mistakes, in every respect of team building.
here’s to hoping we have seen the last of cashman.
who is exactly going to replace cashman though?
Nice to see Girardi finally come to his senses and play the kids.
Now Cashman needs to bring up Miranda.
Gonna be one heck of a football game today, ain’t it?
Will be nice to see Nady at Right.
“The Yankees got the countdown right in Game 2 last night. They had Don Larsen, David Cone and David Wells – all three authors of perfect games at Yankee Stadium – pull the lever.”
How is it that they managed to line up such worthy guests for a last-minute makeup game, but failed so royally for the rest of the season with plenty of planning time??
From the other thread, who is pitching tuesday cause I got tickets?
“How is it that they managed to line up such worthy guests for a last-minute makeup game, but failed so royally for the rest of the season with plenty of planning time??”
Clearly those three just happened to be at the Stadium together that day and were asked spontaneously.
What ‘kids’ is Girardi playing? Ransom surely isn’t a kid.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....p?c_id=nyy
” Ransom surely isn’t a kid.”
but he looks like a kid. does that count?
but seriously, there is something to be said for a player to come into a pressure situation and performing well. being up with the yankees is a big deal for ransom.
the only way to tell if he can be a super sub next year is to get to next year and find out.
for what it’s worth, i like the way he handles himself.
interesting lineup, nice to see a change
btw Pete, Jets/Pats prediction?
It’s looking obvious what Melky’s fate will be this winter.
A CF is high on the priority list.
Don’t forget about Action Jackson.
Nice to see Hughes get a start this Wednesday. He sure worked his way back up to the major league level. Go Yankees & Giants!
Kevin
How come you have not posted updates on Karstens and Ohlendorff? They do good or regular you post something so you can trash Cashman but now that they are awful you post nothing? You are heavily biased!
I would’ve loved to see Bobby’s patience in the lineup against the wild Jackson.
Yes, the Melk’s gone sour. Like I said yesterday, it’s almost punitive.
Gardner’s going to play a lot down the stretch because Girardi said it’s too soon to evaluate him. (translation: we’re waiting to see if he can buy a hit) I hope he figures it out like he did at the other levels because the rest of his game is very good.
I hope Jeter didn’t run out of bullets. Nice to see him get the bulk yesterday. Otherwise the pressure starts to mount.
Go, Yankees. Go, never mind.
ack!
*would love to have seen
Halladay vs. Lester-should be a good one.
By the way….Scott Patterson had his debut in San Diego last night….2 innings no hits and a strikeout, sat at 92. Great idea designating one a the few that could have helped.
“It’s looking obvious what Melky’s fate will be this winter.”
i don’t think melk’s fate is sealed at all. i think they are just doing tough love to send him a wake up message.
when the red sox demoted crisp because of ellsbury last fall they didn’t throw crisp a way or trade him when his value was low.
melky will have times when he’ll hit .300 in the majors again. that’s when you’d trade him.
of course , if a gm wants to bury a player so he’s worthless, i guess that’d be his choice.
maybe it’s part of a higher plan.
but even people guide by plans can’t be that stupid.
By the way….Scott Patterson had his debut in San Diego last night….2 innings no hits and a strikeout, sat at 92. Great idea designating one a the few that could have helped.
it’s funny how he almost made the team this past spring.
This is the first time I’ve criticized the lineup this year.
The bottom 3 of this lineup is no better than most National League teams with the pitcher hitting.
What exactly do they see in Brett Gardner? Offensively, Gardner has shown absolutley nothing to prove he belongs in a major league uniform. Nothing. Is playing Gardner more productive in terms of the ‘09 roster than giving Melky some games to prove he learned something from his demotion?
I see Melky as a 4th outfielder but someone who can contribute at the major league level. Brett Gardner has proved nothing other than he can run. That’s a very limited skill when you are incapable of reaching 1st base to begin with.
Also, why arent the Yankees giving Juan Miranda a look at 1st base. At 25, is he a prospect or isnt he?
““It’s looking obvious what Melky’s fate will be this winter.â€
i don’t think melk’s fate is sealed at all. i think they are just doing tough love to send him a wake up message.
when the red sox demoted crisp because of ellsbury last fall they didn’t throw crisp a way or trade him when his value was low.
melky will have times when he’ll hit .300 in the majors again. that’s when you’d trade him.
of course , if a gm wants to bury a player so he’s worthless, i guess that’d be his choice.
maybe it’s part of a higher plan.
but even people guide by plans can’t be that stupid.”
I agree, you have to sell high on him
Drive 4-5:
I agree that Miranda should be the 1B, but they are keeping him in AAA for the final game vs the PCL champion (I forget who won it). Than Miranda should be called up and play for the Yanks, and compete for the 1B job in the spring. He needs to work on hitting lefties, as do the majority of Yankees.
Miranda is a platoon player. He’s not a prospect.
Dee,
“The Yankees got the countdown right in Game 2 last night. They had Don Larsen, David Cone and David Wells – all three authors of perfect games at Yankee Stadium – pull the lever.â€
It was video taped, the same way as Greg Nettle’s appearance in game 1 annoncing there’s 9 games left.
Speaking of yesterday’s game 1, what was so wrong letting a fan drawn at random from 47,000 entrees pulling the lever?
After all, over 4 million of us have some out to support the team. It doesnt hurt to throw the dogs a bone every once in a while. Heaven knows we havent had too many this year.
this is who i want to see call up:
Juan Miranda (let him and Ransom compete for 1B next season)
Chris Basak (more reason to push Betemit out of the picture)
Austin Jackson (yeah he’s in AA, but why not pull a “Justin Upton” and possible replacement for Abreu if gone?)
Humberto Sanchez (possible 2009 setup reliever?)
Chase Wright (let’s see if he improved from last year, and please NO MORE PONSON)
Scranton won the Govenor’s Cup on Friday. Miranda should be up. We dont know if he’s a prospect, platoon player or another Brett Gardner till we see him against major league pitching.
I think we will likely see Miranda and Chase Wright after the AAA playoff game on Tuesday.
Basak and Austin Jackson are not on the 40 man – so I don’t see that happening.
Basak and Austin Jackson are not on the 40 man – so I don’t see that happening.
DFA Ponson and Rasner.
Joe
September 14th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
By the way….Scott Patterson had his debut in San Diego last night….2 innings no hits and a strikeout, sat at 92. Great idea designating one a the few that could have helped.
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Patterson was expendable. He’s 28-29 yars old and was rescued rom the independent leagues. NYY have other pitchers that are much better and much more suited for the future success of the francise. They can’t keep everybody.
Every time a former Yankee player has a good game, a good inning, the wails go up about how could they give up such a valuable player. He’s at best, a borderline major leaguer. It’s no different than when a player has a great day, and the cries go out to get this or that guy. all you heard for the last year was “Get Nady.” “Get Marte.” Well the Yanks got both, and, now, they’re not good enough “for all the great young talent they gave up.” Tabata wasthe only one that had keeper talent. The others are more suited to pitching in the big NL West parks.
the problem with putting Jackson on the 40 man now- is that you then don’t have a spot to protect someone else for the rule 5 draft. Same with Melancon. No need to bring them up now for meaningless games- hopefully the yanks have enough info on him already or send him to AFL to see if he can make the bigs next spring.
You also have to see the free agents this offseason. 60-day DL people, free agents leaving, rule 5 people, etc.
J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS !!!
Scott Patterson did not pitch 2 innings last night, he came in and got 2 outs, one of which let an inherited runner score. He struck out a .244 hitting SF Giant.
And now you know the rest of the story.
Try and get some runs nice and early
LMAO. O’Neill’s in great form today. Ragging on one of the umpires.
Drive 4-5=
I’m with you. Many times this season the lever has been pulled by just an average fan. I don’t really understand what is wrong with that. Like you said, millions of people support this team, and I’m sure the people who got to pull the lever got a real thrill, a real Stadium moment, from that small gesture. Personally, i think the Yankees did this right. Throw in a few “special guests,” but honor the people who have been coming to the stadium year after year.
It’s just too bad the Yankees didn’t blast out loud that that’s what they were doing.
The Scranton team still has one more game on Tuesday.
Nice Johnny and Jetes
too bad Giambi doesnt bunt.
Jete really wants his hits, he gets them soft and hard…
Now that, I have no trouble with….bunting for a hit the right way. Usually, he’s torn between trying to bunt for hits and sacrificing.
TD Giants!
Giambi you gotta keep it fair to count
at least, Giambi making him work.
Nick,
I’m sure that Haeger appreciated Patterson’s help.
work it real good Giambino
that was BALL 4, Giambi.
let’s go A-Rod….
mel, after the game they renamed Petco Park — it will be Patterson Park from now on. He owns San Diego.
you can’t blame him for fouling that off with the runners goin
Crap!
We’re hittng again.
Looks like Joe forgot to remind these blockheads to lose this game.
Halladay better have it today.
Cy Young front-runner Jon Jester will pitch a shutout.
That was Giambi’s best at bat in weeks.
nice at bat, but they didn’t score yet, you know how that can work out
Giambi’s AB was beautiful
is it possible for Arod to line into a triple play?
GRAND SLAM FOR A-ROD……..
Picture perfect swing by Rodriguez.
ALEX!!!!!!!!!
Yes, Alex!
100RBI there u gO!
or hit a grand salami
Please A-Rod, GiDP now!
Clearly someone gabe Arod a little coaching: chew gum during your at-bat, blow bubbles while you run the bases.
Thanks, Captain.
you call that a triple play???
Giambi’s AB was beautiful
can’t believe im saying this, thanks to Giambi for making him work and helping A-Rod and other batters seeing what Jackson got.
100 RBI again for Rodriguez. Not bad for an off year and not hitting with runners in scoring position.
Boy, that ARod = he sure knows how to kill a rally!
Worthless,
A-Rod!
Nice battle by G to hit the granny by Alex. I missed it, but I’m sure it was Alex’s fault.
Moose is probably thoroughly disgusted that the scourge of the league, Pavano and Ponson are stealing his support.
A little late, but Rodriguez (I) is finally starting to look comfortable.
Maybe Nady hitting behind him got him better pitches to look at?
So long Sir Sidney.
for now
So long Sir Sidney.
for now
??
“Maybe Nady hitting behind him got him better pitches to look at?”
3-0 and 3-1 counts with the bases loaded and 0 outs usually warrant fb’s down the middle lol
Come on Carl Pavano, give up some runs and be the “true Yankee” that A-Rod could never be.
Here’s something to think about. Damon’s still has a few good years left and next year will pass 2400 hits. By the end of next year, he’ll also be close to 200 homers and 1000 RBI, close to 1500 runs scored and 400 steals. Will he be close to a HOF candidate by the end of 2012?
if that was Betemit on 3b, it would have been a base hit.
Cano made a great recovery to save a throwing error. Maybe, contrary to what some believe, he really does think out there.
GB7
Also, last night made that great scoop and throw play to prevent an infield hit by Perez (?).
i love this giambino batting 3rd stuff!
Nice atbat by Giambi, and finally A-Rod hits with the bases loaded.
Also, to whoever called Jon Lester the front runner for the Cy Young award, it’s gonna be a unanimous choice for Cliff Lee. If he doesn’t win it than it is a sham.
Season over and April Arod shows up now!
Way to “man-up” A-Waste!!!
ok Pavano is done….
Again, what is the upside of starting guys like Ponson, Pavano, Rasner and all those scrubs? Girardi shouldn’t even be allowed to finish this season.
Yes!!!!!
Carl Pavano, True Yankee!
I never do this, but is Pavano getting squeezed a bit? He’s working too slow, seems to be laboring a bit, but i thought he had Perez struck out. And there were other pitches, as well, that I though he could have gotten calls on.
Anyway, not a good inning.
Eh. That wasn’t great.
oh, Joh Jester lost his shutout.
Cano made a great recovery to save a throwing error. Maybe, contrary to what some believe, he really does think out there.”
Yea, he had the head to pay attention to the ump. Otherwise, everyone is safe.
You’re right, Doreen. Cano’s defense is a lot better than people want to give him credit for. For whatever reason, people think that because he’s not hitting to his normal standards, that makes him a butcher in the field, or, he’s just lazy, disinterested and doesn’t care. He’s like everyone else on this team….he’s had a bad year with the bat…or, at least not to normal numbers. The BS about trading him is laughable, at best.
I say after Tuesday, we call up guys like Wright, Kennedy adn others and give them starts. If there is room on teh 40 man keep Ponson and Rasner to long relief in case they mess up to soak up innings. Now is the perfect time to try out young pitchers. No pennent race, plenty of other arms in case you mess up.
“I never do this, but is Pavano getting squeezed a bit? He’s working too slow, seems to be laboring a bit, but i thought he had Perez struck out. And there were other pitches, as well, that I though he could have gotten calls on.”
Sure, it’s all the ump’s fault Pavano gives up a 3-run HR to a slap hitter.
1 more hit to tie…
jeter is on another level right now
Derek is absolutely on fire. Just 1 hit away.
Derek Jeter-the hitting machine
1 to go!!!
That pitch to Perez was not a bad pitch, and, especially to a banjo hitter. It was in and almost off the plate. How Perez hit it that hard and that far is beyond me.
i’m guessing Jeter really want to get in the playoffs and he’s doing everything he can to get the team to there.
figured, Giambi would homer.
Maybe that 5-spot in the lineup is cursed.
Nice job Giambino! 6-3 Yanks
And a bomb by Giambi. Sometime during the night, it appears that he has found his swing, at least, for today.
They couldn’t do this for moose but they can do it for Pavano? He must be pissed :p
Green Beret,
Damon has already staked his HOF claim with his heroics in the 2004 ALCS. But it isn’t (or shouldn’t be) primarily about longevity and cumulative career numbers. Mike Mussina has won abut 100 more games than Sandy Koufax did.
Remember all the idiots here who wanted to trade Jeter and said he was finished when he was really just injured?
Girardi, time to say bye bye.
Never said Pavano was pitching well or that it was the ump’s fault. Just thought he had made a couple of good pitches that maybe he didn’t get calls on.
WOW pavano is sucky today… thank goodness the edwin is sucking today too.
That double by Jeter was his first since 6 August. That’s the way his season and the Yanks have gone. Odd.
“They couldn’t do this for moose but they can do it for Pavano? He must be pissed :p”
When Moose pitched, the Yankees were facing a pitcher who had his good stuff with him. Jackson is stinking up the place so far.
Doreen,
fair enough, my bad. I just think it’s silly to defend scrubs like Pavano and try to blame it on other people, something I thought you were doing. Once again, I’m sorry if you didn’t mean that. At least we are winning today, for now
Now that Jeter is on the cusp of tying Gehrig for hits at yankee stadium. I was looking for the amount of games each has played in the stadium. Who has more games played at Yankee Stadium? I guess in a stat you could find out who has a better hit per game average at the stadium Jeter or Gehrig
Interesting, Nady’s stats as a Yankee over 50 games are in line with his career averages. He is hitting .289 with an OBP of .340. He has a lot of homers for 45 games with 10 and 31 RBIs. However, his average and OBP aren’t in line with Abreu who too, has been a clutch hitter this year. I don’t know whether Nady can replace Abreu. Defensively is maybe a max ten spetacular catches that Nady might make diving and into a wall vs. Abreu worth the offensive dropoff. Plus, Abreu has been more consistent and this is Nady’s career year. Just food for thought…
what was the injury delay in the top of the second??
Phil starting on Wednesday good news.
Jonathan, probably Gehrig considering that record of consecutive games but I could be wrong.
Girardi, time to say bye bye.
Yup – let’s hope they can keep it up.
Listen, Pavano’s the pitcher on the mound today and I want the Yankees to win today, so I’ll root for Pavano. But I wasn’t trying to make excuses for him for sure.
max, it was for Cano.
Okay, so Coney thinks that the Yankees have been losing games at home because the opposing team has been more psyched about the stadium closing than the Yankees? Hmmm. Interesting theory.
27 this year,
IMO Nady cannot replace Abreu. His obp isnt comparable and Nady could very well be having a career year.
but he was fine?
Aardvark, that 2004 post season isn’t going to get Damon into the HOF. It’s going to take career numbers, and as with Mussina, he hasn’t had those unbelievable single seasons of a Koufax, who had 5 of them, where there was no doubt as to who was because unlike the best pitcher on the planet. He completely overshadowed greats like Gibson, Ford, Spahn, Drysdale and Marichal.
Cy Young fore-runner Jon Jester dominating in a one-hitter through 2 innings.
“IMO Nady cannot replace Abreu. His obp isnt comparable and Nady could very well be having a career year.”
Nady doesn’t have Abreu’s eye at the plate and doesn’t walk as much. I like Nady; he’s a decent player who is also extremely good looking, but I don’t want to lose Abreu just so that Nady can play RF.
Oh god, Price better not be Right.
***delete “because unlike”***
I hope we beat the crap out of Price. That guy needs to be brought down to earth.
Price wil get rocked for 10runs
I agree with Drive and Laura and am against those who say we should let Abreu walk so Nady can play RF. They are blinded by his good moments but Abreu has done just as much and on a regualr basis vs. Nady who strikes out a lot in key situations also. I think Abreu is critical to the team and unless we sign for trade for someone big, Nady cannot replace Abreu but can surely complement him.
randy I –
I just got back in from running errnads, and saw your comment in response to my comment, on Pete’s last post – Thanks for the insight.
pound Price kay?
Laura, the last time the Yankees saw Price, Jeter, Abreu, and Arod all struck out without the slightest whimper.
Jason “Manny” Bay does it again.
Trade Joba for Price?
Knowing the Yankees, Price is going to throw 3 perfect innings with 4K’s.
“max, it was for Cano.”
Wha happened to Cano?
“Trade Joba for Price?”
Gee whiz.
I’m so conflicted I dont know how to root. For the first time I can remember I dont feel good about the Yankees winning. The Yanks season is mostly over. The last thing I want to see is anything benefit the Red Sux.
Quiz answer…YA Tittle.
Gee whiz.
lol I was joking. But if Price can live up to the scouting report he would be pretty comparable to big Justin.
Not a good play, Mr. Cano.
or, rather…non-play.
Cano has got to start using his brain out there. He just doesn’t think all the time. The fans are starting to get on him for these bonehead plays.
We can probably get Price for Kennedy and Melky. Throw in Betemit if they play hardball.
The day after Milwakkee gets bumped from the PO’s I get CC on the phone this team has need an Ace for the past 5 years.
Drive 4-5
Funny you should say that. My husband and I had a conversation this morning about how the Yankees not being in contention has really screwed everything up! I mean, it’s a lot easier to just root for the Yankees and be done with it. Instead, you have to figure out who you want to beat whom and why. A big thing was, until the Yankees fell out of it, I felt I could be magnanimous and root for Joe Torre and his Dodgers. But, now, doing so means having to hear all the negative stuff about the Yanks. Yuck.
“We can probably get Price for Kennedy and Melky. Throw in Betemit if they play hardball.”
I’m expecting to see you headlining at the Laugh Factory any day now.
“We can probably get Price for Kennedy and Melky. Throw in Betemit if they play hardball.”
lol. If they get really tough I’d dangle Kei Igawa.
My point was that a lot of not-great but above-average players make it into the Hall on the strength of career numbers without ever having a spectacular season. Should he make it, Mussina would fall into that category, which would make Luis Tiant’s omission all that much more of a travesty.
And no, I don’t really think Johnny Damon is a hall of famer, though he’s been very good.
Laura, Cano would have made the play if Giambi doesn’t deflect it. The mistake was not getting to the ball after the deflection and a smart player like Floyd took advantage of it. Don’t know if he lost sight of the ball or not, but, still can’t walk after the ball. It wasn’t good.
Nick in SF
September 14th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
We can probably get Price for Kennedy and Melky. Throw in Betemit if they play hardball.
OMG ARE YOU KIDDING!1! LOOK AT KENNEDY’S AAA NUMBERS HOW COULD YOU GIVE HIM UP FOR AN UNPROVEN GUY LIKE PRICE!!!1!11
And I agree Al, Jeter and the GM of the Yankees need to be calling CC up as soon as it is legal to do so to start the $ale$ pitch.
I’m rooting for the following team in the playoffs this year: Who ever beats the Sux, that was an easy pick for me.
Doreen,
I agree. Who needs to hear the negavity that comes from LA or Boston winning?
I seldom agree with Joel Sherman, but I think today’s column pretty much hits the nail on the head.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09.....128939.htm
Nick in SF September 14th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
We can probably get Price for Kennedy and Melky. Throw in Betemit if they play hardball.
LOL
Hank should have you on his advisory committee Nick.
“And I agree Al, Jeter and the GM of the Yankees need to be calling CC up as soon as it is legal to do so to start the $ale$ pitch.”
I agree Rob, the Yanks should be the first team to “plant a seed” in CC’s head and let him know that NY wants him and is willing to pay up.
Why can’t our speedy guys (Gardner) do something like that? All I see him do is pop out.
“I seldom agree with Joel Sherman, but I think today’s column pretty much hits the nail on the head.”
Sherman had me listening until he called Jesus Montero “Miguel Montero” can this guy at least look up the guys name before mentioning him?
“The mistake was not getting to the ball after the deflection and a smart player like Floyd took advantage of it. Don’t know if he lost sight of the ball or not, but, still can’t walk after the ball. It wasn’t good.”
That’s what I was talking about. He needed to use his head and run after the ball instead of watching it dribble into the outfield.
Tiant doesn’t belong in the HOF, but, neither does Catfish Hunter, Dizzy Dean (who made it in on the strength of two seasons and a technicality – getting into one game 10 years after he retired, as a stunt). If Blyleven, Kaat and John aren’t in, then, no way do those guys get in.
Al from BK( Lets go JETS!!!)
I hear you, but it’s nitpicking.If Jesus Montero turns into another over hyped prospect who’ll care what he called him? The basic points of his arguments are pretty much right on.
Al,
If Milwaukee even makes it to the playoffs. Philly and Houston are only 3 & 3.5 GB respectively.
Melky was bad, but Gardner is on a whole new level of suckyness.
Phil Hughes was on the table for Santana. The Twins passed. The Yankees did not want to continue to be jerked around, so they pulled their offer. This scenario is conveniently forgotten when people say the Yankees should have traded Hughes for Santana. They actually tried to. But saying that the Yankees made Hughes untouchable allows writers to cast the Yankees as stupid and short-sighted.
NYY can’t even talk to the FA until 15 days after the end of the WS, and even longer until they start talking money.
Yeah Sherman lost me when he said Matsuzaka, Haren, and Erik Bedard were “battle tested #1’s” All good pitchers, but nobody i’d sell my soul for.
Other than that, I do agree that when you ignore the sub-structure it eventually will come back to haunt you, which was the other part of what Joel had to say.
“Al from BK( Lets go JETS!!!)
I hear you, but it’s nitpicking.If Jesus Montero turns into another over hyped prospect who’ll care what he called him? The basic points of his arguments are pretty much right on.”
I’ve always been a little Sherman critical sorry. Montero has raw tools and could become something. I still am not very upset about not getting Johan because his numbers and velocity are down a fair deal 1 year into that deal and in the NL. I honestly think CC is the bulldog Ace starter we need, now lets see if we can get him.
William T. Sherman knew more about baseball than Joel sherman ever will.
Well how great is this season. Cano hurt now.
Gardner is on a whole new level of suckyness.
If that brettisgod person was around, this statement would have set him/her off
The Twins certainly didn’t make it easy on anyone. They made the negotiations so long and drawn out that the 2 biggest entities involved with that trade (The Yanks and Sawx) were forced to leave the table and they had to settle for Minayas scraps.
Yeah, I prefer CC at this stage in both careers over Santana. I just like the kind of heat and passion you get out of Sabbathia and Johan seems to already have deteriorating skills.
why are children so difficult sometimes?!?!? Sorry off topic venting.
Jeter needs take one swing and then bunt for the tying hit. I don’t think he can catch up to Price the first time seeing him.
You know, I am certain that the NY media, and the national sports media for that matter, are absolutedly salivating at the prospect of writing the Yankee post-mortems. I’m sure writing about their success had gotten pretty monotonous and how can you really criticize a team that’s winning? But now, every petty thing is going to be written. Bank on it.
Dizzy Dean belongs. Catfish doesn’t, and neither do Kaat or John, whose claims are based only on longevity. Though maybe John belongs because the surgery named after him is a household word now. I’d say yes to Blyleven. Tiant had TWO seasons with an ERA under two. He was a dominant pitcher for a stretch of about five years. Plus about as colorful a character as there was, which should count for something.
“Yeah, I prefer CC at this stage in both careers over Santana. I just like the kind of heat and passion you get out of Sabbathia and Johan seems to already have deteriorating skills.”
I agree. Heres another nugget to chew on:
Johan 2007 with MIN- 235 K’s in 219 IP
Johan 2008 with NYM- 179 K’s in 210 IP
That is what I like to call a concerning drop-off.
…and Jeter TIED with Gehrig.
he hit price
a triple away from the cycle. wow!!!!
Wow, Jeter with the flair for the dramatic!
Congratulations to him. Lou Gehrig would be proud.
Holy Crap Jetes!
I feel blessed I got to watch Derek Jeter.
Or, maybe he just hits against the traffic. He suckered Price into that one, I guess. Congratulation, Derek Jeter.
if anyone realize, Jeter is only a triple away from the cycle.
Wow. You can’t script it better than that.
What a moment.
Welcome to the bigs, David Price. Don’t feel bad, he’s a big-time player.
Jeter certainly does set an example for everyone…he hasn’t shown a single sign of quit.
Congrats Captain!
Jeter really has earned his place on the list of all time Yankee greats.
We are lucky to be able to watch him.
Kay with the boo-boo.
Yeah Al that’s what i’m talking about. I wouldnt have traded the guys needed and given him another 137 million dollars when his velocity is down hurting the effectiveness of his changeup and his lack of use of the slider. He just isnt the guy he was 2-3 years ago. Sabbathia is coming into his own NOW and we have a chance to lure him over here. Sign me up for that with him as 1 and Joba as 5 ….. sounds like a thing of beauty to me.
Good to see Jorge in the dugout.
I love that Jeter left no mystery to this!
Yeah, Derek!
Derke! Awesome! Very cool moment. Nice that Jorge was there too.
I mean Derek. Geesh
Pete,
Giambi deserves a contract, even a 2-year contract, from somebody. Just not the Yankees.
Dean had 3 great seasons, but, he still doen’t belong, ecept as an announcer. Longevity accounts for almost all the numbers in the HOF, including Carl Yastrzmski, Harmon Killebrew, Willie McCovey, Gaylord Perry, Phil Neikro, Jim Bunning and on and on.
Hank will sign Pavano and Giambi again – just kidding!1
“Yeah Al that’s what i’m talking about. I wouldnt have traded the guys needed and given him another 137 million dollars when his velocity is down hurting the effectiveness of his changeup and his lack of use of the slider. He just isnt the guy he was 2-3 years ago. Sabbathia is coming into his own NOW and we have a chance to lure him over here. Sign me up for that with him as 1 and Joba as 5 ….. sounds like a thing of beauty to me.”
Definitely sounds nice in a few years we can realistically have CC and Joba 1-2 with Wanger as the 3. Talk about 2 bulldogs at the front-end.
For a mega-Red-Sox hater like myself, I just can’t enjoy this.
OT-I don’t think the Packers are gonna be missing Favre. Good job Rodgers today
Cliff Flody would be a perfect compliment to the Yankee team. Possibly as a first baseman. He hits the ball hard all the time…like a left handed version of sheffield of four years ago.
derek… too little too late!
have to admit that Gene Michael’s greatest acquistation was Jeter, Posada, River, and Pettitte. correct me if im wrong, can’t believe Bob Watson almost traded Jeter after Michael left.
Jon Jester just won his 15th game of the season.
Yastrzemski played for a long time, but his stretch run in 1967 made him a Hall-of-Famer. Bunning pitched a no-hitter in each league. Killebrew is in the top five in homers per plate appearances. Long careers are nice, but signature seasons and short-term achievements (Roger Maris 1961?) ought to count more than they do.
Well – a visit from the trainer for the Rajah of Rehab – you can’t make this up
wow, this year it took 5 games for him to get injuried.
I’d prefer Cliff Floyd over Cliff Flody, though. Floyd is the better player.
PAVANO IS HURT!!!!??? I love how irony works in life.
If Pavano goes down… wow, it’s going to be really tough to make the playoffs now. Please be well, Carl.
injury……
What was the over under for 5 games ?
WTH?!? Even I don’t want Carl’s Yankee career to end like this.
Crowd booing Pavano’s injury.
…Wow.
He’s hurt? Is this a joke?
Nothing from Pete?
Rasner better not be back in the rotation.
Wow, Pavano really is fragile. It’s unbelieveable how he always gets hurt. I can’t believe this actually surprised me.
Irony is when the opposite of what is expected occurs. Pavano getting hurt hardly falls into that classification. If anything, anyone describing this situation as ironic is ironic in its own right, if not just incorrect.
I second that… Wow
“Giambi will get a 2 year deal from somebody”
Wow! Really going out on a limb there!
He was trying to lobby to stay in. Looked like he was saying “I’m alright i’m alright.” But didn’t fight much harder than that.
what a horrible ending
Um Edwar? We need outs
Ramirez needs to learn another pitch or he needs to be traded.
Maybe they’ll call up Shelley to pitch?
Maybe Carl Pavano should consider a career change. I’m not being facetious. Something about pitching does not agree with his body.
unbelievable…. you can’t make this stuff up. pavano is a disgrace.
What’s wrong with Cano?
I went to check my E-mail and Pavano is hurt, oh this guy is too much and some people in here were actually talking extension!
watch, pavano will sign on another team next year and win the Cy young
His lips may have been saying “I’m alright” but his eyes were saying “I got another boo boo”.
Maybe they’ll call up Shelley to pitch?
Seriously, I would love to see that.
I would be laughing my butt off
Dominik
September 14th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Irony is when the opposite of what is expected occurs. Pavano getting hurt hardly falls into that classification. If anything, anyone describing this situation as ironic is ironic in its own right, if not just incorrect.
Guess i’m just a dreamer but I expected Pavano to play out the next three weeks in an attempt to earn himself a contract. I think that a lot of people actually expected that. What that would mean is his inability to do so would be ironic. Maybe it was ill advised to believe that he wouldn’t get hurt again, but there it is.
i want to hear Moose weigh in on this.
His lips may have been saying “I’m alright†but his eyes were saying “I got another boo booâ€.
Nick come on man
Hats off to the Captain. He never gives up!
This is scary
Yeah, I’m sure this is Pavano’s plan. He was pitching a pretty decent game, he wants the win and he wants to stay healthy. He’s not the first Yankee pitcher to get hurt throwing a pitch that didn’t involve the arm.
im not sure if i trust marte
“watch, pavano will sign on another team next year and win the Cy young”
Sure he will. If this injury is anything more than a cramp I think hes headed the way of Billy Wagner. Seriously who would ever sign this guy?
that ball 3 call was atrocious
We got ripped off big time in that Pittsburgh deal.
walking in a run..
Jose Tabata = the Next Manny Ramirez!!!! Without the power.
I hope A-Rod is paying attention to how Jeter went out this weekend and assaulted Gehrig’s Yankee Stadium hit record and didn’t wet himself when faced with it.
THOSE ARE ALL STRIKES ffs
Marte getting squeezed. wow.
Strikes man
Oh boy. Tababa would never walk in a run, that’s for sure.
gardner with a beautiful catch, great job
Thank you Brett!
Jose Tabata = the Next Manny Ramirez!!!! Without the power.
When his power developes your not going to sasy that.
Gardner saved the lead…
Jose Tabata = the Next Manny Ramirez!!!! Without the power.
When his power developes your not going to say that. *
little G saved the game…
Give Gardner’s legs two RBIs.
Gardner just saved two runs and possibly the game.
I like Damon and Abreu, but their defense costs alot of runs over the course of the season.
“Jose Tabata = the Next Manny Ramirez!!!! Without the power.
When his power developes your not going to sasy that.”
brandon knows all
Brandon is your last name Tabata? Are you his cousin or something? He is a very good prospect, yes. He has a huge attitude problem and he has motivational problems as evidenced by his reporting to camp overweight if im not mistaken. His power was pretty non-existent and everyone said it was because of his injuries (which have been relatively plentiful including but not limited to that hamate surgery. Now he has been healthy all year and played about 100 games and has 8 homers. Eight.
So would Gardner’s bat, Terry.
Gardner just saved two runs and possibly the game.
I hope his bat speed comes along. It has to we need defense in our OF in the future but we also need a consistant hitter w/ his speed.
As an ardent Yankee fan/Boston hater the Yankees need to lose this game. It’s all about hurting Boston right now. I’m still pissed they won the second game yesterday.
Rob NY you should more than anything power is the last thing that comes through for a hitter especially one at 19 or 20 yrs. of age and playing in a ballpark where RH isn’t common for what we got it wasn’t enough.
Okay, that was funny.
Sorry watching the Giants game and typing at the same time.
2 bag error on the infield? Ah. Gardy would’ve been at third.
Brandon, I’m glad you’re watching the Giants game, I was worried you were watching old Tabata footage.
Wow, incredible play in St. Louis.
Hey brandon I know you can agree with me that was a BS touchdown for Torri Holt.
Kenny Philips had that ball
I’m very impressed with David Price. Hopefully we’ll find a way to do well against him because he’ll be their #1 or #2 very soon.
Price is very good but he’s going to have his peaks and valleys, I’m still pissed w/ that TD !
back to Price good arm angle, hides the ball but the curveball is hittable, the fastball is Marte-like.
If they don’t handle Price with kids gloves how about Kazmir, Garza, Price in a 5 game series? Ouch.
Anyone watching Vikings/Colts? Vikings looking real good on defense.
Believe it or not the Giants have put Ahmad Bradshaw on the field, he was in the jail house…I mean bench last week, but if you like him like I do flick your t.v. right now because we may not see him for another 4 weeks.
There’s something about Bradshaw, he’s real slippery. Or maybe its that 12 yard run and fighting for more.
Hixon !
BRADSHAW IS OUT OF JAIL BABY !
That was taunting? Really?
Anywho TD Giants!
Nice YAC for Bradshaw there!
Come on Jeter!
Too bad Jeter can hit the way he’s been hitting when our season is down the drain and when he is breaking records.
If only he can hit like that in a whole year.But thats asking too much from a $18 million player.
Oh well, I guess it’s good to be reminded that this is 2008.
c’mon Jetes. wanna see a triple
lol I was called for many a taunting penalty in college. The officials don’t seem to like it when you scream at the opposing team about how bad they are as your wide receiver is making his way into the end zone.
Paulie hasn’t been watching this year!
or you could hit into a DP..
Did Paulie just say that we don’t see Jeter hit into too many DPs? He clearly hasn’t been watching all of the Yankee games this season.
“You don’t see Jeter hit into two many double plays…”
Thanks for coming out to the ballpark, Paulie!
Too bad Jeter can hit the way he’s been hitting when our season is down the drain and when he is breaking records.
If only he can hit like that in a whole year.But thats asking too much from a $18 million player.
Yea, damn him for being injured but still playing. Damn him for having a higher average with RISP than our #4 27.5 million dollar player.
Bradshaw reminds me of a combo Eddie George or Emmitt (Yes the one you guys are saying no not him)
TOO many, I meant. Sometimes he does hit into two.
When the heck did Indy tie things up with the Vikings?
A-ROD: REDEFINING CHOKE
September 14th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
“As an ardent Yankee fan/Boston hater the Yankees need to lose this game. It’s all about hurting Boston right now. I’m still pissed they won the second game yesterday.”
Get over it Arod choker. Sox beating Halladay right now 3-1. I hope that makes your day!
Tuck TD!!! Geeeeeeee-Men!
OMFG ! did you guys see what TUCK just did !
Is Bruney having surgery on his foot after the season ends?
Tuck is a BEAST!
Justin Tuck is crazy.
I wish he was a Jet
If Girardi is just now penalizing Cano for his mistakes, he’s a dollar short and a day long.
day long = day late
Robbie….
It’s all been the second half for Indy. They’ve probably seen more than enough of the NFC North.
Ho.
Lee.
She.
It.
damn Ross is down
“I hope people appreciate what Jeter has done and continues to do.” I’m sure they do…
“The Rajah of Rehab is back!” And hopefully this means he will be out of a job next year, or at least he’ll be forced to travel on minor league buses!
I think David Price should definitely be on the playoff roster. He looks ready to make a big contribution.
Man, if Gardner could hit, he’d be perfect for CF.
what a glove by gardy
Damn, Gardy. What a play. If we’re going to carry a dead bat, I vote for him.
Jesus what a play.
Man, if Gardner could hit, he’d be perfect for CF.
Even if he did he can’t patrol CF over this guy
we saw gardner make a lot of plays like that in center when he was here in trenton!
No doubt about Gardner’s speed and his ability to shag flies in the gaps, but, they’ve got to fix his swing and approach at the plate. He needs to bunt for a hit at least once a game and then run wild on the bases. If he doesn’t, he’s nothing more than Bubba Crosby.
i know gardner hasnt shown much with the bat but i hope he shows up in ST and really battles…if the yanks dont go out and get a cf maybe just maybe gardner can fight for that spot and make the team and maybe just maybe become something..dont hate me i just like to dream
I cant wait to see the post game interview with Pavano. Maybe he’ll reiterate his comments he made to Tyler Kempler last week that this injury is a lot like the others… a the fault of the Yankee’s medical staff.
Today is a fitting ending to a real bum’s Yankee tenure.
“If he doesn’t, he’s nothing more than Bubba Crosby.”
I think he’s faster than Bubba was.
The Jail house break for Bradshaw this kid is amazing !
LOL! Bradshaw baby!
Thunder, I haven’t seen much of Gardner since he left Tampa but, when did he change his approach to hitting. It’s almost like he’s afraid to swing the bat.
There won’t be a postgame interview with Pavano, I imagine he’ll run and hide somewhere…they’ll say he’s getting treated or an MRI or a PET scan or something.
G-Men are dominating!
You guys who pick on Jeter are retarded. Seriously go get help. Vlad and Magglio have more GIDP’s than Jeter and their teams are leading their divisions. What killed us was A-Rod picking August to hit into 11 of his 16 GIDP’s. Having your #4 hitter hit into 11 in the most important month of the season was allot worse than any Jeter hit into. And A-Rod makes more than Jeter NJ in Tampa.
LOL! Bradshaw baby!
He’s played about 6 mins. in the whole game and has made the Rams D his prison *buddy*
I think Dan Wheeler will be the pitcher that comes down with the mysterious ailment, allowing Price to be on the post-season roster.
Yes, Laura, I realize that. I’m referring to what he’s going to end up being, and, that’s a fourth outfielder and running the NY to scranton shuttle. Right now, Justin Christian is a lot better ball player and has more value.
magglio’s team is leading his division? are suggesting that the tigers are leading their division? leading at biggest bust in AL?
mel -
The only question is when they announce it!
“The best part will be Joe Girardi defending him after the game. The Rajah of Rehab is back.”
There goes Pete hating on Girardi again. Can you guys just get along?
Justin Christian is valuable when he can stay upright on the basepaths!
I hope the Yanks waste no more time with Brett Gardner and get serious about acquiring and developing real talent.
I hate the Red Sox with all my heart. But Francona’s comment a couple of weeks ago about handling all the injuries was telling. He said “I like my lineup”. when asked which lineup he liked, he responded “I like any lineup I put out there. We’ve got some baseball players here.”
It’s time the Yankees started developing “baseball players”, players that are adept at all facets of the game.
Look at the yankees and most players are very 1 dimensional. Giambi has power but cant field,Gardner has speed but cant hit.
I’d put my money on Percivel, Mel. He’s really hurting and not pitching well at all.
He’s played about 6 mins. in the whole game and has made the Rams D his prison *buddy*
Agreed.
Colts winning a game they had no business winning.
“What killed us was A-Rod picking August to hit into 11 of his 16 GIDP’s. ”
No, what killed us was the ENTIRE offense being in a coma for 95% of the season. Can’t blame that on A-Rod. When he was gone, nobody stepped up. When he came back, he struggled because again, nobody was there to share the load and he tried to do it all by himself. That’s a recipe for failure and he failed.
I get mad at people who trash Jeter as well because it is EXTREMELY clear that he was hurt after that putz Cabrera hit him. Anyone who didn’t notice that doesn’t know this team or baseball in general. That being said, that isn’t cause to slam Alex. I don’t care how much money Alex makes, there’s no I in team. It’s not his sole responsibility to win every single game.
GB7,
Ironhorse Percival? Mr. Big League talker?
This kid could definitely close games.
Check out the X-man at 1st base and I bet the Colts, so they’d better win that game!
Colts come all the way back to win.
J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!
COLTS WIN, GIANTS WIN, GREENBAY WINS
FAVRE TIME
“Look at the yankees and most players are very 1 dimensional. Giambi has power but cant field,Gardner has speed but cant hit.”
Most players??? You mentioned two guys. Add Betemit to that, whose only talent is hitting from the left side and that’s a total of 3 guys. Everyone else is more than capable of doing both (hitting and defending).
Rebecca go get them Pats for us
I hope we have better options than Veras for next season. He’s good for the most part, but he needs to live dangerously. Like around the plate.
Mets BP drama for you thrill seekers.
I didn’t even notice that Melky was out in RF.
…Is that Melky in RF?
Don’t worry Brandon we’ll do our best
2 more outs and we all becomes Rays/Twins fans until the end of the regular season, right?
Amen Laura, well said.
lol thats drama alright..
Jesus Christ that Mets BP
and the Braves leading now 5-4
Mets BP blows the lead. I don’t see them getting through the post season with that bullpen.
Someone tell Kay that it’s over in Boston… but at least the Jays covered the +1.5
getting through? how about getting TO?
Heh Laura, I assume that question next your name is rhetorical?
Mel, Price is going to be good, but, not sure if he could get ready fast enough on back to back days to close the games under that pressure. What a pity it would be for him to get hurt trying that.
Laura, the Yankees were two games out of the Wild Card on July 26th. Despite all the problems. Then your #4 hitter hits into 11 GIDPs in August. Plus, look at all the games we scored 3 runs or less. A-Rod is the master of padding stats.
“getting through? how about getting TO?”
I think they hold off PHI and make it. If not, they should get the WC. MIL clearly doesn’t want it.
oh, snap @ Shea!
Time for a save for Rivera?
Can some team actually sign pavano to a new contract? One, he has not proven he can stay healthy for more than five mins and two, I dont even think he is a good pitcher anymore. What a fraud? I want our money back!
“Heh Laura, I assume that question next your name is rhetorical?”
Heeheehee!
“Plus, look at all the games we scored 3 runs or less.”
Exactly. And that is a team problem, not just A-Rod.
Man, this board is slow, trying to get posts through the filters. It takes as much as 45 seconds for it to finally take.
Favre magic is UNDERWAY
Somewhere, Goose Gossage’s mustache is bristling.
Pavano deserves a contract, but it might come from the American Medical Association.
The Mets bullpen is..um..interesting
As I said last night, one of the huge issues is that there are so few walks. Giambi leads the team with 70. Baseball has only one player with 100 or more walks and only 6 total with over 90. That has hurt in extending innings.
Nick: LMAO!
Mariano Rivera is my hero.
Love Ya Mo.
Mariano with the K
thanks… fruit bat!!!
I hope Jeter continues his hot hitting against the White Sox. it is possible that the great Yankee ghosts is helping the team to get to the playoffs? hmm..
Meanwhile at Flushing Feliciano is making Manuel do wind sprints.
Thank you Mo!
Classic Jeter with the “Mr. 3000″ logic.
They’ll have to reopen the stadium.
since actual games have lost much of their luster, i have been reading about swarm theory today.
this is about the phenomenon when individuals who have no clue what they are doing but somehow when put in the right group situation are guided by a self organizing mechanism that allows the group to do things the individuals as i said have no clue about.
this may come in handy when thinking in the future about hank’s advisory council.
i can also see how it might explain the dynamics of the blog.
the above is best read with a sense of humor filter.
We need a kicker.
“Plus, look at all the games we scored 3 runs or less.â€
Your #4 is paid to drive in runs in clutch situations. More is wrong with our #4 and #5 hitters than is wrong with #2. Also Jeter is only six RBI’s off his 2007 pace, and he usually averages RBI’s in the 70’s. A-Rod is off 60 RBI’s from 2007, 25 from 2006 and 34 from 2005. It’s an A-Rod/Giambi problem. The middle of this lineup is aweful.
Nice to see that Jeter didn’t underplay his accomplishment.
I need to say this again because I’m watching the Mets BP
THANK YOU MO !
SERIOUSLY THANK YOU ! THANK YOU ! THANK YOU ! THANK YOU !
We really do need to be thankful we have Mo
Jay Feely..man. I still have nightmares about the game vs. the Seahawks. lol
So Livan is a one-man swarm. That makes sense.
oy, Jets, it’s called defense…
“It’s an A-Rod/Giambi problem. The middle of this lineup is aweful.”
LOL
Trash their two best hitters – good idea.
Jets stink! How do you let the guy go all the way down the field. And Feeley? I could kick better than that!
green beret 7-
do you figure that maybe walks are down because pitchers aren’t as afraid to throw strikes with hitters playing natural?
it’s also possible that pitchers themselves have less velocity but more control without peds.
the pga tour, for example, hasn’t worried much about peds because most of them turn the user into a bad putter. in other words the finesse game goes to hell.
Brandon
I just flipped to the Mets game. Unbelieveable. When it does end for Mo someday, he will be sorely missed.
Giambi’s batting .249 with 90 RBIs and Abreu is batting .297 with 89 RBIs.
Giambi is not better than Abreu this year, but you could fall in love with his 30 homeruns if you wish.
Gotta love that Favre magic so far!
“So Livan is a one-man swarm. That makes sense”
nick in sf-
you are a flippin genius!
now why didn’t i see that?
this swarm theory is already paying dividends.
Giambi’s OPS is .878 compared to Abreu’s .839. Not that different, but Giambi still has the edge.
But you can fall in love with inferior stats such as BA and RBI (lol) if you’d like.
Same old Jets, that’s why I became a Giants fan! GO GIANTS!!!!
Cassel has been pretty alright so far. Not bad at all.
Still a lot of game left to be played though
Doesn’t get better than this. Yankees win. Mets lose..Giants win. Now a Jets loss would make my day. haha
Kevin
Oh Yeah, the Yanks magic # for getting rid of Giambi is 16.
Keep sounding stupid if you want Sean, this team is not going into the playoffs because of an inability to score runs. Dope.
You can suck on A-Rod and Giambi’s balls all you want. Since they arrived, this team has not gotten it done. FACT.
The defense is really beginning to frustrate me.
the o-line has been great, but the degense defense didn’t bother showing up for the game.
Tuck made a great play though.
Randy, like I said, walks are down considerably throughout baseball, and, I doubt that PEDs have anything to do with it. Why they are down this much in one year is a mystery to me. Not sure if it’s a baseball-wide change in pitching philosophy or hitting philosophy. Next year will be interesting to watch and see which way it goes, before deciding if it’s the start of a downward trend or an anomaly.
And is RISP a meaningless stat? Where Jeter and Abreu are over .300 and A-Rod and Giambi are under .300 (Giambi’s under .225)
Pavano’s injury was a cramp in the hip flexor. Girardi made the decision to remove him and he’ll make his next start.
“Meanwhile at Flushing Feliciano is making Manuel do wind sprints.”
Are they missing the playoffs just like the Yanks?
Stupid J E T S chant. So what you know how to spell a four letter word. Get another chant.
“Stupid J E T S chant. So what you know how to spell a four letter word”
Well, they probably can’t spell their QB’s name, so I think J-E-T-S will stick.
And is RISP a meaningless stat? Where Jeter and Abreu are over .300 and A-Rod and Giambi are under .300 (Giambi’s under .225)
Dude most of those are infield hits for Jeter. Abreu has been solid w/ RISP he’s been the most clutch Yankee (this year), Say what you want about Arod and Giambi one is in his prime and is having a crappy year. The other is at the later stage of his career w/o them the team doesn’t touch 70 wins.
Are they missing the playoffs just like the Yanks?
They just might. The Astros are hot right now I don’t think anybody wants to play them and if Philly wins the night cap tonight the lead is down to 1.
Most of Jeter’s hits are infield hits? What do you mean by “most”?
Interersting that Girardi removed Cano on the deflection play. As Girardi and Rivera said, the intent wasn’t to embarrass him….just to make him think and stay focused. Hopefully, it get’s him started, because as reivera said, the Yanks need him to be Cano because he’s going to be around a long time.
Cano on post game now, says that Girardi was right to pull him out.
***Reivera is Mariano Rivera’s butler, I believe.***
Most of Jeter’s hits are infield hits? What do you mean by “most�
Most of the hits. The small majority this season. They don’t have a stat for that but how many in between hops we saw for Jetes end up a hit w/ RISP, or example a bobble by the 3B yesterday, they all go down for hits anyone else does that it’s not taken lightly. In 182 AB w/ RISP Jetes has 56 RBI, 57 TB. Some how I doubt that’s normal but congrats to Jetes he is one away from alltime hits at Yankees Stadium.
GreenBeret7, I couldn’t agree more. If Kim Jones ever does an interview like she gave to Cano again, she should be fired on the spot.
She was talking to Cano like he’s a retard, and that shouldn’t be accepted.
Even with Brady out the Patriots look a little better than the Jets.
Cassels looks hurt.
“She was talking to Cano like he’s a retard”
If the shoe fits . . .
Was Cassel limping?
DFox, that was beyond brutal, and a clear attempt to embarrass him and get Cano to take a shot at Girardi. It’s very apparent that he doesn’t really understand all of the questions the way she asks them. It’s not the media idiots that need to decide who should be embarrassed, regardless of how much they think that’s their job. She is without a doubt one of the worst one-on-one interviewers in sports.
Was Cassel limping?
Yup. And Maroney is hurt.
Brandon, I don’t think you can prove in any way that “most” of Jeter’s hits –either with RISP or not” were “infield” hits. I’m calling hyperbole!
CanIGetAMooseCall
September 14th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
“She was talking to Cano like he’s a retardâ€
If the shoe fits . . .
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Yes, and you are living proof of that.
It’s very apparent that he doesn’t really understand all of the questions the way she asks them. It’s not the media idiots that need to decide who should be embarrassed, regardless of how much they think that’s their job. She is without a doubt one of the worst one-on-one interviewers in sports.
GB thanks for that. It amazes me how she would think he 100 % understands all her questions any latino or spanish speaking person can see Robi is still learning english and struggles to understand it but to attempt to corner him into going against his coach is low.
Robi was pulled after letting a grounder pass him, Girardi did it to send a message but Cano will recieve it from him not the press. I wish the press would stop trying to backhand players to get thier scoops.
GB he was saying it sarcastically “If the shoe fits” (to Kim Jones)
Not sure if Jeter’s hand injury is still the reason or not, but, this is the first game in months that he drove the ball hard and had two extra base hits in a game. First double since August 6th leads me to believe something isn’t right.
“A-Rod is off 60 RBI’s from 2007, 25 from 2006 and 34 from 2005. It’s an A-Rod/Giambi problem.”
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Here is ARod’s and Giambi’s RBI History as a Yankee. RBI’s are listed as RBI per AB (to nutralize injuries/diofferent ABs/yr.
0000 ARod Jason
2002 .000 .218
2003 .000 .200
2004 .176 .152
2005 .215 .209
2006 .212 .253
2007 .268 .154
2008 .210 .221
CAvg .205 .203
So, we can see the following. Both players have more RBIs per AB THIS YEAR then their career average (although this counts Oakland, Seattle and Texas years wherethere may have been fewer opportunities.
Giambi was massive in 2006 as was ARod in 2007.
Over thier careers they have basically identical numbers (ARod with 2 more RBI per 1,000 ABs).”
Career Averages for
Manny: .226
Pujols: .212
Of course, this is not purely accurate because you would have to look at RBI changes as opposed to ABs. So I’m just sayin’.
Just wanted to show that “Mr. A-ROD: REDEFINING CHOKE” probably can’t count higher then 100.
GreenBeret7
What took Joe so long to remove him? Should have happened in April.
I don’t think so, Brandon. He’s another that has trashed Cano all year. Cano screwed up, he knows it and Girardi dealt with it. It’s not something the media needs to get involved in. Report it, but, stupid questions like that wouldn’t have been asked by a 12 year old.
Ahhhh… my apologies GB.
If Girardi should have benched Cano back in April, then 95% of this team should have been benched.
“Yes, and you are living proof of that.”
You’re absolutely right, Cano is a really smart guy. That’s the ticket.
Cano is one of the players that has a tendency to take his hitting problems into the field and his fielding issues to the plate and has yet to separate the two. Some players never do. Mickey Mantle was one of those types.
Favre is like a professional race car driver….but he is drivng a Ford escort!
I missed Cano’s post-game interview.
All year long, I was impressed with Cano’s willingness to take part in post-game interviews in spite of the fact that he is still learning English. He has no interpreter. To think that Kim Jones or anyone else would try to exploit another person’s weakness (in this case, the inability to discern nuances in the English language) is reprehensible.
I have seen interviewers over the years try to get players to say what they want them to say. At least if the player is English speaking, there is a fair chance the player can negotiate the interview, but even then, they can fall into semantic traps.
And people wonder why Matsui continues to use an interpreter!
GreenBeret7, please stop apologizing for Cano’s awful season. You shameless, pathetic homer.
CanIGetAMooseCall
What is this, you’re trying to improve your vocabulary or just challenged?
years from now, i’ll remember AROD.
GreenBeret7 : you’re love affair with cano is amazing.
thank god most people like the fans,coaches and writers disagree with you.you do not allow lackluster play from cano because of what the rest of the team does.how will cano ever get better if he is not diciplined? he had his best season when bowa was riding the crap out of him all year,he said so himself that he misses him.
where did everybody go?
Batting average is meaningless … it helps to walk and have extra bases. Yes, I am a Jeter detractor and only because he gets away getting no heat but everybody loves to blame A-Rod. Jeter’s lifetime OPS which accounts walks and extra bases is .846 this year he has an OPS of .788. CLEARLY, under performing.