Game 151: White Sox at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Sep 16, 2008 
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YANKEES (80-70)
Damon DH
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Nady LF
Cano 2B
Molina C
Gardner CF
Pettitte LHP
WHITE SOX (83-66)
Cabrera SS
Anderson CF
Dye RF
Griffey Jr. DH
Konerko 1B
Pierzynski C
Ramirez 2B
Uribe 3B
Owens LF
Floyd RHP
Gavin Floyd (5-7, 3.77) vs. the New York hitters.
Andy Pettitte (13-13, 4.52) vs. the Chicago hitters.
Notes: The never-say-die Yankees have won three straight and four of their last six. They have not won four straight since that eight-game streak after the break when they fooled everybody into thinking they were any good. … The Yankees start the day nine games out in the division and wild card with 11 games to play. … Chicago is 1.5 games up on the Twins.
NOT MUCH HELP: Pudge Rodriguez has started only 25 of the 44 games since he became a Yankee.
BRUTALLY EFFICIENT: Mariano Rivera has pitched the last three days but thrown only 28 pitches (22 strikes) in his three innings.
HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE: The Yankes are 4,128-2,429 at the Stadium. All but three of those losses were against A.J. Burnett.
COKE IS IT: Phil Coke has thrown eight scoreless innings in his six appearances.
MR. CLUTCH: Bobby Abreu is 20 of 52 with RISP and two outs, the best mark in the AL.
PEN MEN: Yankee relievers in the last three games: 12.1 innings, 6 hits, 1 run, 5 walks, 12 strikeouts.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 4:36 p.m.: The Yankees haven’t decided whether Pavano or Ponson will start on Friday. Aceves goes Saturday and Pettitte on Sunday. … The plan is for Matsui to play Sunday then have the surgery. … Girardi had a talk with Cano today and put him back in the lineup.
UPDATE, 6:11 p.m.: Just met a nice man, 90-year-old Joe Mignogna of the Bronx. He attended the first game at Yankee Stadium in 1923. He was 5 years old and went with his grandfather, who knew Jacob Ruppert.
“We were all rooting for the Babe to hit a home run that day,” he said. “And you know what? He did.”
I asked him what he thought about Jeter breaking Gehrig’s record for hits at the Stadium.
“I think he’ll do it tonight,” Mignogna said. “Gehrig was a quiet guy and a great player. All class. Everybody respected him. I think it’s good if Jeter breaks his record. That would be right, don’t you think?”
Yep, sure do. Seems right.
Mark it down. Single over the shortstop’s head, good hard turn around first. Standing ovation from the crowd.
UPDATE, 6:21 p.m.: Several of the Yankees went over and took a tour of the new Stadium today. “It’s huge,” Darrell Rasner said. “That’s the first thing that strikes you.”
UPDATE, 7:08 p.m: Olympic swimmer Dara Torres threw out the first pitch. North Carolina hoops coach Roy Williams is in the house, too.
UPDATE, 7:16 p.m.: See? Told you. Good for Derek. He set the record in 3,928 at-bats. The Iron Horse has 3,861. It’s a record that will never be broken.
It should have been an E-5, however. A big leaguer needs to make that play. Here is photo I snapped just before the pitch was thrown by Floyd:
UPDATE, 7:19 p.m.: Alex, of course, strikes out and gets booed. If Alex ever cured cancer, Jeter would negotiate world peace the next day. It’s just how it works with those guys.
UPDATE, 7:43 p.m.: Brett Gardner just came to the plate to Gimme Shelter by the Stones. I have no idea if he selected that or not. But if so, that is pretty cool.
UPDATE, 8:04 p.m.: Mark Feinsand of the News reported in early August that Pettitte was dealing with an injury. The Yankees denied it at the time. But Pettitte has not pitched well since then and has grudgingly admitted that his shoulder is not well. It appears he needs only rest but it’s obvious that something is wrong.
Meanwhile, it has become hard to watch him pitch. You can’t walk Juan Uribe with the bases loaded. It’s admirable that Pettitte wants to keep pitching. But it could be time to shut him down.
UPDATE, 8:13 p.m.: That’s 31 dingers for The Big G and he’s now alone in 10th place in team history. 93 RBI this season.
UPDATE, 8:40 p.m.: Moose Skowron pulled the lever.
UPDATE, 9:01 p.m.: What part of Jose Veras not being any good lately don’t the Yankees understand? He has now allowed 20 hits and 11 runs in his last 15 innings. He should not be pitching in close games.
UPDATE, 9:33 p.m.: Just a thought, but it’s time to retire Cotton Eye Joe. A guy in a straw hat dancing around to a lame song is not really entertaining. You’d like to think the Yankees would change things up at the new Stadium but it’ll probably be the same old song-and-dance.
Meanwhile, the Girardi Boys are mailing in another one. Brett Gardner has shown what he is capable of, at least. But other than that and Jeter’s hit, it has been a sleepy night at the ballpark.
UPDATE, 9:41 p.m.: Humberto Sanchez warming up. Might as well see some of the kids at this point.
UPDATE, 10:08 p.m.: I know he has an ugly ERA. But Dave Robertson had struck out 32 in 26.2 innings. I think he has a real chance to develop into a late-inning guy.
UPDATE, 10:09 p.m.: Jeter sets a record, Yankees lose. Not the script he wanted but a familiar tune this season.
I guess its time to play for pride.
“MR. CLUTCH: Bobby Abreu is 20 of 52 with RISP and two outs, the best mark in the AL.”
BRING BOBBY BACK!
And homefield advantage will go down with the upper deck set so far back.
The prodigal 2nd baseman returns.
“BRING BOBBY BACK!”
Cano should have sat the rest of the home schedule. Girardi could have sent an everlasting message with that one.
Hope he keeps him on the bench on Sunday.
“The never-say-die Yankees”
At least one unconfirmed player in Yankees clubhouse may disagree with that.
Heyman on WFAN says Damon and Girardi have been having issues and he may be one of the Yankees who wouldn’t comment when asked about Girardi. Heyman says it could go back to Damon being sat in Minny. Girardi told Heyman the situation is being overblown.
What say you Peter?
Anyone listening to Heyman with Francessa?
- Said he knows for a fact Damon has a problem with Girardi and thinks he is the only one who does, dating back to the MIN game. Says other players in the clubhouse think Damon is kind of ‘odd’.
- Said people in the organization were irked at Posada’s comments.
- Thinks Cano could be trade bait for a CF or P while we sign Hudson.
Not exactly breaking news on any front….
TK made an excellent point re: Cano earlier today.
By benching him, the Yankees seem to have decided to bring back Cano next year.
If they were looking to get rid of him, there would be no reason to bench him. Why “teach him a lesson” if he wasn’t going to be back? Also, why show the entire league what many of us have seen (his dogging it) all year by benching him?
They sent him the message. Now, its time to see if he responds.
To cover themselves though, the Yankees have to bring in a super utility-type guy in the off-season.
They need someone to push Cano. Not a coach. You bring in a coach to improve your entire team, and not just one player.
You bring in a guy that can be put into the lineup if Cano dogs it again next year. This year, they didn’t have that, which is a big reason why they didn’t pull him out of the lineup sooner.
“The prodigal 2nd baseman returns.”
More like: The underachieving 2nd baseman returns.
If Abreu will take a 1-2 year deal bring him back. The corner of spots would be over crowded however.
Damon
Matsui
Abreu
Nady.
Matsui-Dh, Damon-CF?, Nady-Lf, Abreu-rf? Don’t Like Damon in center….
And, the idiot, Jon Heyman is on discussing relief pitchers picked up says that Marte has been bad since the trade, but, him and his idiot in crime (Francessa) agree that Arizona got a good deal in picking up Jon Rauch was a good deal (since the trade, Rauch is 0-6 and a 6.33 ERA). That’s why you can’t take writers seriously when they don’t bother doing their homework.
This is about the time Tampa goes into their 11 game losing streak.
PITIFUL LIST OF THOSE WHO HAVE PULLED THE LEVER AT THE STADIUM
3/31 George M. Steinbrenner III
New York Yankees
4/2 Ahmad Bradshaw, Steve Smith, &
Aaron Ross
New York Giants
4/3 Paul O’Neill
YES Network
4/4 John Flaherty
YES Network
4/5 Joe Pepitone
New York Yankees
4/6 Yogi Berra
New York Yankees
4/7 Zach Parise
New Jersey Devils
4/16 Bucky Dent
New York Yankees
4/17 Tino Martinez
New York Yankees
4/29 Al Leiter
YES Network
4/30 Bill Crystal
Actor
5/1 Ron Blomberg
New York Yankees
5/2 Bobby Murcer
New York Yankees
5/3 Paul Sachs
Golden Knights U.S. Army Parachute Team
5/4 Michael Kay
YES Network
5/6 Steve Spagnuolo, Kevin Gilbride, Jerry Palmieri
New York Giants
5/7 Buck Showalter
ESPN
5/8 Oscar Gamble
New York Yankees
5/16 Graig Nettles (rainout made up on June 27)
New York Yankees
5/17 David Cone
YES Network
5/18 Glenn Kaiser
Yankees fan
5/20 Ruth Fattori
MetLife
5/21 John Walsh
America’s Most Wanted, NCMEC
5/22 Ken Singleton
YES Network
5/23 Kristine Lilly
U.S. Women’s Soccer Team
5/24 Oscar Guerra
Hope for the Warriors organization
5/25 Members of the Tuskegee Airmen
6/3 Boomer Esiason
New York Jets
6/4 Jane Forbes Clark
Baseball Hall of Fame
6/5 Tony Morante
6/6 Lawrence Tynes, Zak DeOssie, Chase Blackburn
New York Giants
6/7 Steve Schirripa
The Sopranos
6/8 Eric, Marilyn, Jason & Stephanie Wasser
New York Yankees
6/9 Lance Armstrong
Tour de France
6/17 Wade Boggs
New York Yankees
6/18 George Reilly
MetLife
6/19 Jerry Coleman
New York Yankees
6/20 Bill Werber (video)
New York Yankees
6/21 Julia Ruth Stevens & Tom, Brent & Amanda Stevens
New York Yankees
6/22 Robert Molloy
New York Yankees
6/30 Jim Kaat
New York Yankees & YES Network
7/1 Dan Quintero
Kips Bay Boys & Girls Club
7/2 Roy White
New York Yankees
7/3 Gene “Stick” Michael
New York Yankees
7/4 Players from the U.S. National Olympic Softball team
7/5 Arlene Howard
New York Yankees
7/6 Dr. Garrett Reisman
NASA
7/8 Reggie Jackson
New York Yankees
7/9 Beto Villa, Armando Talavera, Carlos Silva
WADO – Yankees Spanish Radio
7/18 Tina Lewis, Vinny Milano, Milton Ousland, Evy Harper
Bleacher Creatures
7/19 Tom Coughlin
New York Giants
7/20 Landon Donavan & John Conway
Los Angeles Galaxy & New York Red Bull
7/21 Michael Farrell
MetLife
7/22 John Sterling
WCBS (Yankees Radio Network)
7/23 Leonard Wilf
New York Yankees
7/28 Kenny Loggins
Singer & Songwriter
7/29 Tom, David, Laurie, Kristen, Jamie & Danielle Topping
New York Yankees
7/30 Debbie Nicolosi, Shirley Beauchamp, Josephine Doring
New York Yankees
7/31 Lt. Gen. Ray Odierno
United States Army
8/1 Bob Petersen
MetLife
8/2 Bobby Richardson
New York Yankees
8/3 Spike Lee
Film Director, Producer, Writer & Actor
8/15 Michael Tuccillo
MetLife
8/16 Darryl Strawberry
New York Yankees
8/17 Jerry Stiller and Ben Stiller
Actors
8/26 Lou Lamoriello
New Jersey Devils CEO, President and General Manager
8/27 Goose Gossage
New York Yankees
8/28 Harvey Winston, Dan Cunningham, Tommy Fyfe and Clinton Thomas
Yankees Employees of 20-plus Years
8/29 Relatives of Pete Sheehy
Former Clubhouse Manager
8/30 Kenneth Meer & Jane Lang
Long-time Yankee Fans
8/31 Jesse Barfield
New York Yankees
Why doesnt Girardi look at that stat about Bobby? Maybe if he realized that sooner he would have batted Abreu 4th, Jeter third and Mr Clutch Arod 2nd.
“That’s why you can’t take writers seriously when they don’t bother doing their homework.”
Bingo, GB.
“the Yankees have to bring in a super utility-type guy in the off-season.”
I think that would be a wise move. Who would you recommend? Trade for a Ryan Freel–if he’s healthy, sign Willie Bloomquist, Jerry Hairston Jr, or (wait for it…)Nomar Garciaparra?
AJ YANKS
September 16th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Anyone listening to Heyman with Francessa?
- Said he knows for a fact Damon has a problem with Girardi and thinks he is the only one who does, dating back to the MIN game. Says other players in the clubhouse think Damon is kind of ‘odd’.
What happened in the MIN game? I don’t follow.
Damon’s a great guy in the clubhouse, but the team culture is much to corporate for him.
I can’t believe he’d have problems with the drill-sgt type.
What happened in Minny? Was it a regular sit down while he was hot?
I don’t ever recall Damon getting benched for those horrendous outfield gaffes.
I also recall Girardi going out of his way to cover for Johnny on that occcasion.
Whatever. Maybe he wants a trade which would be great because I’d bring back Abreu in that case. By all accounts, Bobby wants to come back.
Hudson wants 13-15 mil on a multi-year deal. That’s why he hasn’t been signed, even though “Zona has no replacement. He’s thirty ne years old and has no power, little speed and hit about .270 in his AL career (on turf). His defense is no different than Cano’s during their first four years, and not that markedly improved. Great replacement, huh?
Heyman is only a month late on his “news” re: Damon and Girardi.
I don’t care if people are “irked” with Posada’s comments. The fact that he has an opinion, and isn’t afraid to voice it, is not something that should be criticized.
You can disagree with his point of view but, I would NEVER shutdown Posada and his feelings on matters.
If the Yankees decide to keep Joba in the rotation, Posada will work his butt off to make him the best starting pitcher possible.
If they put him in the ‘pen, Posada will put forth the same effort.
He’s a standup guy on a team that has too few players whose blood doesn’t boil after losses and slow starts.
FWIW, here are Marte’s ER over his last 10 games: 0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0. And in 6 of those games he went an inning or better.
BOY DOES HE STINK!!!!!
Heyman is a total loser. It didn’t just start today.
There goes the theory that Damon is this great clubhouse guy. I knew he was behind some of those anonymous quotes. He does seem like a pretty odd guy.
He said he almost retired last year
He refused to go on the DL in 07 when he was hurt because of some stupid DL-less streak.
He got ticked at Torre for not playing him when he was in a slump and said things like “maybe they should trade me if I can’t play everyday”
He got ticked at Girardi for not playing him on turf when he said he would get a day off in MIN.
He complained Joba moving to the rotation would hurt the team.
The guy plays hard and is a winner, but he is an odd-ball. Talks too much as well.
*too
**on account that his dad was military
***Hudson is thirty-one years old***
ok, i’m a month behind on this damon-girardi news. anyone care to recap it for me? pleeeeease?
Damon– let it go. Girardi gave you a day off on turf over 6 weeks ago and you are still holding it against him? Is that why you said you wee not comfortable with bunting in consecutive games when we had a chance to win the game? To get back at Joe?
If he doesn’t want to be here and has a problem with the manager then trade him, we don’t need primadonnas on this team.
frits,
girardi sat damon in minnesota because he didn’t want him to play all 3 games on turf. damon was ticked off at him and it seems their relationship has been rocky ever since and he spread some of these anonymous quotes to the media expressing his disgruntlement.
I have a lot of opinions too. I may be of the opinion that one of my colleagues should be doing different kind of legal work but I’d be as big a fool as Posada if I decided to mouth off about that. And if I did start spreading around my opinions where I really didn’t have the right to be spreading them, I would be and should be roundly criticized, not applauded that I wasn’t afraid to voice an opinion that really wasn’t my business to voice.
Actually the people making the decisions about which worker bees will be assigned which types of cases is made at a higher level than mine – where it should be, and where the people with the expertise and complete information on the needs of the office reside.
Posada has gotten a little too big for his britches. He’s an emotional powder keg. That, I do not believe, is to be applauded. I think someone used the word “arrogant” last night to describe Posada’s thinking he was in any position to mouth off to the press on matters that really don’t concern him. I think it’s an apt description.
steve – thank ya!
And oh yeah – cute for Posada to say that Pudge needs to look elsewhere for a job. I think maybe he took a little too much anesthesia when he had his surgery.
Heyman is an investigative baseball reporter, not a baseball analyst. His job is to get anonymous quotes and break stories. His sources are agents, GMs, execs. etc. to try and retrieve information.
He makes off the wall statements like Rauch was good but that doesn’t discredit what his job is– to cover the business aspect of baseball, which he does very well. He has very good Yankees sources. He broke the Manny trade, Arod opt out, Torre firing etc.
Many people probably agree with Johnny. Girardi did a weak job this year, and he did sit Damon and others in key games early in the season for no reason and the Yankees lost games early on because of it. He never came out publicly against Girardi though.
I like Damon, hes a tough guy, a gamer, and is still a valuable piece to the team. Girardi? quite honestly, he may become a good manager someday but right now he is a dime a dozen
trisha- I agree, what he said about Pudge was uncalled for. Nobody asked him what he thought about him next year, they asked what he thought of the acquisition. He should have been graceful like Molina was.
The weird part about the Joba thing is that is was a word-association segment.
Kay: Joba?
Posada: He should be a reliever…
Could’ve said,
“Big kid”
“Great stuff”
“Beyond his years” (ok that’s a stretch for Jorge, but you get the drift? personality traits, not personnel moves)
Don’t forget IPK in the Bricktown Showdown. ESPN2 or video through mlb.com or milb.com.
Be good Ian.
Well, Tank, I just broke the story about Jon Heyman being an idiot who doesn’t bother checking his facts.
I somehow don’t believe that players consider Johnny “odd”. I agree, Be fair, the guy is a gamer and a tough guy and is very valuable to the team. And I have to believe he is very well liked in the clubhouse seeing he is nothing but supportive of every player on that team. Watch his postgame interviews and try to say otherwise.
Don’t believe all the scuttlebut put out by reporters. Sometime it might be a quiet news day…
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
“Well, Tank, I just broke the story about Jon Heyman being an idiot who doesn’t bother checking his facts.”
Later.
Rauch has almost single-handedly killed the ‘Zona chances of making the post season…not that I care. It’s just the facts.n
AJ Yanks,
Maybe Jorge didn’t know the rules of the game. Like you’re supposed to say nice things about these people. Not talk about where you think they should go.
I didn’t read about it, but apparently Pedro is livid.
i have no idea if there is any beef between girardi and damon…
but i think girardi went out of his way this year to not rock the boat and coddle some of his vet players. clearly, girardi is a different manager that wasn’t allowed to really manage the way he wanted to this year. maybe he was a little shy in enforcing his style on the team as well, especially with all these big $$$ players.
next year, i bet we see a different girardi and a different style of play on the team. i think girardi’s known for a long time what the problems on the team were/are and next year, he will get more power and more of a chance to put his stamp on the team…
heyman did not say marte was bas,he said he wasn’t that great.
Mel, when all of that happened with Martinez, he kept insisting that when he pointed to his head, “I pointed to my head and said ‘Think’. Why would I throw at you with runners on?” Now, he’s saying that Posada called Martinez’ mother a name.
Jorge has earned the right to speak his mind – he has a handful of WS Rings to his credit.
I don’t agree with his take on Joba, and I don’t think he opinion is going to factor into the Yankee plans for the big righty.
Bottomline is that Jorge is burning to catch and not be a first baseman. The fact is that we can’t afford to lose his bat and his leadership – we needed both this year big time.
This, “Posada is too big for his britches” stuff is too funny.
There are certain players on this team whom management ALWAYS seeks out re: guys on the team.
Cashman constantly talks to Jeter, Mo and Posada about the state of the team. It doesn’t mean they all agree on things but, they are in the loop on a lot of things that go on within the team.
He’s not only not “too big for his britches” but, this team has BADLY missed his leadership this year.
When you are hurt, you don’t have the same impact in the locker room (because you aren’t around all the time) as you do when you are in the lineup everyday.
When the Yankees got one hit by Lester at the Stadium earlier in the year, Posada went into the locker room after the game and tore into the team. It actually helped…..for a day.
That’s the problem when you are hurt. You don’t have that daily interaction with the team.
These guys aren’t robots. They just aren’t going to play nice because some fans don’t like hearing anything negative about their team.
Trisha, the problem with comparing your example in the workplace to the Yankee locker room is the following:
Your law firm doesn’t have over 50 million dollars tied into your services AND are giving you the responsibility to train young lawyers.
The Yankees are not only paying Posada over 50 million dollars, they are entrusting their young pitchers to his tutorledge.
That means, there will be feedback from both sides. That’s a good thing. The way it should be.
marte has been better lately
I want to know if Johnny’s “deepthroat” before I vote for him for the Clemente award.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/fan_for...../index.jsp
Check out the disclaimer.
“The nominee for whom you cast your vote for does not affect your chances of winning.”
He said Marte hasn’t been good. What does that leave?
Marte has done a very good job for the Yankees. He had a bad week to ten days after he got overused, and hurt his elbow, in Texas.
Other than that, he’s been solid.
Hopefully, he will be back next year. He is a weapon in the bullpen.
Bullpen guys not named Mariano Rivera are going to have bad stretches during the season. If you look at his entire body of work, he’s done a very nice job for the Yankees.
There is no way that a player of Bobby Abreu’s age and talent is going to take a 1 year deal it is an insult (like the deal offered Torre.)
They need to offer Bobby a 2 year deal with an option on a 3rd year and the Yankees are insane if they don’t! (by the way, while the Yankees have been self destructing since the all-star break, Bobby has hit .343 with a .419 OBP)
Maybe someone should say to Posada, “hey, your body is suited more to DH or 1st baseman now, if you catch you’ll get hurt”…see if he likes them apples.
I’m with the “bring Bobby back” crowd, and I cannot see keeping Damon. The Yanks need a real CF, and Nady — though RF by training — is a good LF. Matsui, yes, as primarily a DH.
Yanks could package Damon-Melky-Cano, pay a lot of salary anyway, and send the to Cleveland for Sizemore. Would the Indians go for it? Probably not.
And Posada’s argument that Joba should be in the pen is a cogent one: reduce wear on his arm. Catcher’s, good ones, see these things.
As far as Abreu is concerned, he wants a 3 year deal.
If he holds to that, he won’t be back.
They aren’t signing a Mid-30′s OF to a 3 year contract.
If Bobby really wants to be back here, he will have to adjust his terms.
Doubtful since this is his last go’round for big money.
Marte???
Well, again he looked real good in the NL, pitching in the AL is quite different. Shame on the Yankees for not realizing the difference. Marte is fine, he is dominant in the NL, very good in the AL.
There are alot of pitchers dominanting the NL that would be just very good in the AL
mel even if JOhnny is Deep Throat he should get your vote because he is someone who does a lot for the community and he does it well,without complaint andis legitimate about it
Someone needs to put a statute of limitations on using WS rings as a get out of jail free card. I vote for 8 years.
The Yankees haven’t decided whether Pavano or Ponson will start on Friday. Aceves goes Saturday and Pettitte on Sunday. … The plan is for Matsui to play Sunday then have the surgery. … Girardi had a talk with Cano today nd put him back in the lineup.
how about neither and bring up someone from the minors? althought I would consider Pavano since he did good handling the O’s when he came back tom TJ surgey.
Off topic…but still NY news…Mark Ingram, former wide receiver for the Giants just got tagged with another 7 year prison term for money laundering and bank fraud, making him a three time loser.
“Pavano or Ponson”
Choose your poison.
No offense but some of these things are comical.
What Posada said yesterday is exactly what he said in spring training. It’s a non story and nobody with the Yankees gives a damn.
Damon is one of the few guys on the team who is universally liked and respected both for his personality and how hard he plays and how he plays through injuries. He is the conduit between the young guys and the veterans.
Damon had an issue with Girardi sitting him without notice in Minnesota as any veteran on any team would. Girardi apologized and they’re fine.
If there was a problem, do you think Damon would be playing every single game like he has?
People are looking for fire when there’s no smoke. It’s an underachieving team, period. It happens.
If we are on a winning streak, Girardi better not put Ponson out there to kill the streak.
I think its almost definite that Damon is traded in the off-season. The Braves would make sense.. Yanks could eat some money and recieve good players in return…
Well, hopefully, Damon doesn’t play every game like he has, because he hasn’t hit in 3 weeks except for basically one game.
Pete your issue should not be with the people here but those people on talk radio and thier guests ie Jon Heyman who spent a good portion of todays show discussing these exact issues and made a bigger deal about it. Or the columnists who wrote about it on many column inches today (posada)
We are only responding to it lol
Well, hopefully, Damon doesn’t play every game like he has, because he hasn’t hit in 3 weeks except for basically one game.
ouch..i think he’s falling back on eartha bit.
Don’t bring back Abreu. Sign Manny and put Nady in RF.
Like I said yesterday – if you listened to how Posada gave his opinion on Joba, it changes your perception a little. He wasn’t adamant or overly aggressive in his statement. Just simply stated his opinion and why he thought so.
It’s all the spin and the sensational headlines that are making it worse than it was.
People being afraid to speak their opinion, especially if it is different from the commonly accepted one, is what leads to all kinds of problems. The Yankees are going to be having a dialog about this after the season. Joba will have his opinion heard, and it will probably carry a little more weight than Jorge’s.
Talking about it endlessly kind of makes the whole situation worse.
Who really cares about the Posada thing. Jorge thinks Joba should be in the pen, big deal so do a lot of people. Joba wants to start, he has always wanted to start. The pen thing was supposed to be temporary and with the likes of Mark Melancon and Humberto Sanchez ready to contribute next year the decision should be easier. Start Joba end of story.
Manny isn’t coming to the Yankees. It ain’t happenin’.
They don’t want him and he doesn’t want them.
Pete,
As Gayle said, this is all about Jon Heyman’s appearance on Francesa’s show today. He is trying to make a big deal out of Damon and Girardi having words in Minnesota.
Then again, he also said Jon Rauch was a “great” pickup by the Diamondbacks. Unfortunately, too many people tuning into the show don’t realize Rauch is one of the reasons why the D’backs blew their lead to the Dodgers.
What we will hear and read from a lot of people when they write the Yankee obit this year is, “Joe Torre would have made a difference. The veterans don’t want to play for Joe Girardi”.
Its BS on both counts but, its the easy story to write/say, because it plays into people’s perceptions of the team.
Unfortunately these days, too many columnists/talk show hosts go the easy route these days.
this team needs to get younger not sign manny who want’s at least 3 yrs/20 mill per year.
if abraeu insists on 3 yrs i think he will be gone,maybe 1 with a team option with a reasonable yearly salary.
sj44 > trisha
Get rid of Abreu. His defense is beyond awful and he’s getting up there. Let the Mets sign him and bring in Burrell or Dunn.
Doreen,
You will have a bunch of people looking to write ANYTHING that draws attention to themselves when it comes to the Yankees not making the playoffs this year.
This (not making the playoffs) has been coming for 3 years. The slow starts. The inconsistent and injured starting pitching. The declining defense. The injuries.
We saw all of it under Torre from 2005-07, and we saw it this year under Girardi.
What’s changed is, unlike other years, they didn’t slug their way out of their flaws only to die in the first round of the playoffs.
It was a teamwide breakdown this year. From ownership, front office down to the players.
Its going to take everybody to fix it. That’s the way it goes in sports.
Time to start a new run next year and this off-season is going to go a long way to see if that can happen.
Lots of money coming off the books. Lots of players who won’t be back.
Its all about making good decisions and good acquisitions.
If they do, this is a temporary setback and not the start of a long fade.
“Manny isn’t coming to the Yankees. It ain’t happenin’.
They don’t want him and he doesn’t want them.”
Thanks SJ for that nugget of knowledge. How do you know Manny doesn’t wanna come here? Manny can still rake and is a moderate LF. Plus someone has to protect A-rod in the line-up and if we don’t get Tex who else could do that?
DCR
September 16th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Get rid of Abreu. His defense is beyond awful and he’s getting up there. Let the Mets sign him and bring in Burrell or Dunn.
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Yeah, now there’s two defensive studs for the future. Good post.
Manny is not a moderate LFer. He is terrible in the field and should be viewed as a DH. If you make Matsui and Damon disappear then Manny might be an option.
@DCR – Why would the yanks ever think of pursuing Dunn and his annual .230 BA
Ok he hits 40 HR and drives in 100, but i’d much rather sign Abreu to a 1-2 year contract and get that consistent .300 average, good hitting with RISP, and 100 rbis
SJ44 -
Knowing it was coming for the last at least 2 years doesn’t make it easier to accept.
But I do agree to the extent that I was certainly elated but surprised that they got to the playoffs last season. The season before (The Detroit year) I think they earned that one by winning a ton of games, and it was a shock that they went down so easily after winning the first game. Though, I shouldn’t have been given the pitching situation.
Just hoping that the changes they make are smart.
Unfortunately, what is written and spoken post-mortem this season is out of our control. And everyone’s going to want to get in their theories about who, what, why, when and how. Some will be good and thoughtful and the rest will be vindictive and mean-spirited in nature. I have a feeling that there are a lot of people out there who have been salivating waiting for this day, the day the mighty Yankees fell out of playoff contention. Which, mathematically, hasn’t yet arrived (even if we can all hear the fat lady warming up).
I know Manny doesn’t want to come here because he doesn’t want the hassles of playing in NY.
He doesn’t want to deal with the media, fans, family and friend wannabes he will encounter in NY.
He also has no interest in cutting his hair, per Yankee rules.
I also know the Yankees have no interest in him.
Folks can write endlessly they “want” Manny in NY.
But, if the Yankees don’t want him and he doesn’t want to play with the Yankees, its kinda hard for it to happen.
As far as Abreu is concerned, he wants a 3 year deal.
If he holds to that, he won’t be back.
They aren’t signing a Mid-30’s OF to a 3 year contract.
If Bobby really wants to be back here, he will have to adjust his terms.
Doubtful since this is his last go’round for big money.
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That is why they should offer him a 2 year deal with an option on a third at good money (maybe not the 16 million but closer to 13-14 a year). Abreu likes playing with the Yankees and would be tempted to take it, just don’t insult the guy with a lousy 1 year offer.
Abreu is a very young 34 year old, he plays every day, is not prone to injury and is still posting numbers at his career average.
If anyone on the team has earned the right to keep wearing the pinstripes it Bobby!
GreenBeret,
Dunn and Burrell aren’t very good defensive players either, you’re right. The difference between them and Abreu? Both are younger and both hit for more power.
Matt,
I don’t care that Dunn has a bad batting average. He hits nearly 40 bombs a year and is an on base machine. Batting average is relatively useless. And so is this blogs favore subject: #’s with RISP.
“Manny is not a moderate LFer. He is terrible in the field and should be viewed as a DH. If you make Matsui and Damon disappear then Manny might be an option.”
You are obviously distracted by the whole “Manny being Manny” aspect his defense is not that bad. His fielding percentage has been good and his assists are always in the 8-10 range which is very good for a ML LF. He only has 3 errors this year so he doesn’t cost you the game either.
I wouldn’t rule out Manny coming to the Yanks so easily. He grew up in Washington Heights and he dislikes the Red Sox. What does that say? Well, why wouldn’t he want to return to where he grew up and also get revenge on his former team?
Manny loves attention and media and fans. He might say he doesn’t, but who else smiles and holds up a sign that says “i’m going to green bay for brett favre”? And i’m sure cutting the hair isn’t that big of a deal… jesus did it, i’m sure manny can follow his former teammates steps..
And, as we all know, if it’s about money, we’re notorious for giving large, long, and prosperous contracts – something Manny should be happy about
If Abreu knocks in as many runs and steals more bases with fewer home runs and does it for less money than those two will get and for fewer years, why do it?
I’m not distracted by the ‘Manny Being Manny’ aspect. I don’t care about that. You’re using poor metrics to evaluate defense. Manny is at least -10 runs in the field, at least. If I had access to my computer I’d look it up on Baseball Prospectus. He’s a god awful fielder and shouldn’t be considered an outfield option.
“The Yankees haven’t decided whether Pavano or Ponson will start on Friday”
My last game at The Stadium and this is what it comes down to.
I’d have been more than content with Aceves.
I guess I’m leaning torwards Sid to get it.
Pat Burrell hits for more HR because of where he plays IMO. He is not someone you can count on that is for sure. He goes on streaks like no ones business.he also made 14 million dollars this year and has a full no trade clause and much like Abreu this is probably his last chance for another contract of value so he wont be asking for a discount. Certainly dont see the Yankees offering him that kind of money as well as giving him a full no trade.
Al From Burger King, Ramirez played nearly half of his games in Fenway Park this year. Johnny Damon would have a cannon arm in that place and have 10-12 assists a year.
“I’m not distracted by the ‘Manny Being Manny’ aspect. I don’t care about that. You’re using poor metrics to evaluate defense. Manny is at least -10 runs in the field, at least. If I had access to my computer I’d look it up on Baseball Prospectus. He’s a god awful fielder and shouldn’t be considered an outfield option.”
No I’m just using the facts. BTW hes -5 in the field. How many runs will he drive in is more important. If you are not for signing Tex and obviously against bringing back Giambi who do you suggests protects A-rod in the line-up Matsui on 2 bad knees? Posada? Nady? None of those seems capable.
“Al From Burger King, Ramirez played nearly half of his games in Fenway Park this year. Johnny Damon would have a cannon arm in that place and have 10-12 assists a year.”
Okay. You’re entitled to your opinion I just think he would bring a presence to this offense that nobody else could.
Pete, you think the Yankees would let us pick between Pavano & Ponson on a LoHud poll?
It might end up being Ponson by default if Pavano develops carpal tunnel by voting too much.
Abreu 34
Burrell 32
Dunn 29
Abreu has been one of the most consistent players this year.
[My Reds fan friends have been trying to dump Dunn on us for a few seasons.]
Manny being a Yankee may be close to never happening, but I wouldn’t mind.
He’s a great hitter. Clutch, too.
Kind of a loveable lughead.
“Abreu 34
Burrell 32
Dunn 29
Abreu has been one of the most consistent players this year.
[My Reds fan friends have been trying to dump Dunn on us for a few seasons.]”
Burrell is just like A-Rod mentally weak and often unclutch. Dunn would hit 60 bombs in YS however he is just a younger Giambi.
When did I say I wasn’t for Teixeira? I think the Yankees should sign him if he is available and willing to come here. What I am saying is that its wrong for you to insinuate that Ramirez can play a passable LF. He can’t and he has proved this time and time again. If there was a spot on the Yankees for him I would definitely want Manny. But there isn’t unless you get Matsui and Damon to go away.
And to the person who said they thought Burrell was a product of Citizens Bank, Burrell has 20HR on the road and 11HR at home this year.
People are seeing the best of Manny right now, well accepted by fans who are as loosey-goosey as he is, hitting lights out for his new team, adored by the young players around him, covered by beat writers who haven’t had two postseason wins to write about in decades and can’t wait for October, and relieved to be out of Boston.
Much fun as this may be to see (especially for those who are no friends to the Red Sox), how much reason is there, really, to be confident that this will carry over to a whole new contract in a tense atmosphere, bad climate, roster of competing superstars, roll call of hypercritical media ‘personalities’, unrealistically entitled fans …
“Manny being a Yankee may be close to never happening, but I wouldn’t mind.
He’s a great hitter. Clutch, too.
Kind of a loveable lughead.”
I’m glad someone sees the positive sign of Manny.
Oh no. A younger Giambi (aka a younger guy who will hit 40+ HR, get on base a lot, and then be hated on by ungrateful fans). And another ‘mentally weak player’. Sometimes I think Steve Phillips, John Kruk, and Carl Ravech post here on like 100 different names.
“Much fun as this may be to see (especially for those who are no friends to the Red Sox), how much reason is there, really, to be confident that this will carry over to a whole new contract in a tense atmosphere, bad climate, roster of competing superstars, roll call of hypercritical media ‘personalities’, unrealistically entitled fans …”
“Tense atmosphere, bad climate, hypercritical media.” You do know that he played in Boston from 2001 til this year right.
Dunn would hit 60 bombs in YS however he is just a younger Giambi.
Same batting average, same strikeouts, same defense, same money.
“Girardi had a talk with Cano today and put him back in the lineup.”
I used to get grounded a lot longer than that….
“Oh no. A younger Giambi (aka a younger guy who will hit 40+ HR, get on base a lot, and then be hated on by ungrateful fans). And another ‘mentally weak player’. Sometimes I think Steve Phillips, John Kruk, and Carl Ravech post here on like 100 different names.”
So you are insisting that because I don’t like Giambi I am an ESPN anti-yankee drone? What a silly comment and sorry if I don’t want a guy who K’s 200 times a year and plays 0 defense.
The Yankees would be far better off signing Teixeira than Manny. Granted it would be for more years, but Manny would take big bucks to be a DH.
You do know that he played in Boston from 2001 til this year right.
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I did say “relieved to be out of Boston” didn’t I?
And described him as happy in the diametrically opposite situation …
“Oh no. A younger Giambi (aka a younger guy who will hit 40+ HR, get on base a lot, and then be hated on by ungrateful fans). And another ‘mentally weak player’. Sometimes I think Steve Phillips, John Kruk, and Carl Ravech post here on like 100 different names.â€
“Burrell is just like A-Rod mentally weak and often unclutch.”
I was talking about Burrell being mentally weak moron.
“The Yankees would be far better off signing Teixeira than Manny. Granted it would be for more years, but Manny would take big bucks to be a DH.”
Unfortunately they won’t. The Yanks are saving the jackpot for CC and they know that Boras will try his best to stiff them for a 200 million dollar bill.
u know all you people wanna trade Cano and this and that, and put hudson at 2b.. thats just the Yankees getting old again, people use ure god damn hads
ALL YOU PEOPLE LOVED CANO THE PAST 3 YEARS THOUGH!
as far as I am concerned pitching is what the yankees need. Not Manny, not Dunn, not Burrell, but PITCHING.
CC would be a more important signing anyway given the state of the rotation. That doesn’t exclude Teixeira, though I tend to doubt they will go that hard after him.
The Yankees need a top line SP and possibly taking on another SP like Burnett or Sheets.
Manny is looking for a big payday. There is a lot of talk about how he has helped energize fans in LA, plus it seems a decent fit for him there.
Tom, Pitching has been the biggest area of concern for a while now with the Yankees. Unfortunately, this year the offense took a nose dive as well. They will need to do something to help correct that as well.
Nut, Very true with the offense. However, a healthy Matsui and Posada, along with bounce-back years from Jeter and Cano will help the offense….of course there are big holes to fill in center and first.
I want CC, Burnett, Sabathia and Manny next yr.
Trivia question: Who is the winningest pitcher in the modern era in September/October?
Mets watch: Mets win or lose? (Pelfrey vs. Odalis Perez)
Paul Konerko back from his knee sprain. Ouch.
I hope there is an Humberto Sanchez sighting tonight.
“I want CC, Burnett, Sabathia and Manny next yr.”
I’m with ya man. However CC’s evil twin can play elsewhere.
Mel: Is it either Smoltz or Pettite.
How about Tex and Sheets, too?
Tom,
Neither. Good picks, though.
Mel
Over the last 3 years it’s Josh Beckett, in the modern era I’ll guess Pettitte or Smoltz.
Watching the Angels series and seeing how well Teixeira covered 1st really sold me on him. He had a decent amount of range.
I think the Yankees could deal with another year of Damon in Center with some starts by either Gardner (who really looked good defensively out there) or Melky being the back up outfielder till Jackson is ready.
It might be possible that Matsui could go back to LF, though its tough to know if his knees will hold up. Nady to right if Abreu wants too long, which you really can’t blame him for.
I still believe that Jeter was playing hurt through a large portion of the year. Seeing how he is hitting recently compared to the slump period almost immediately following Cabrera’s pitch on his hand seems to bear that out. I think all the other injuries kept Jeter from sitting out.
Cano is the big question. If they rebuild his swing he might be very good, or it could hurt him at the plate. I’m hoping that he will be more in line with what we’ve seen prior to this year.
Mel, I’ll go with Andy Pettitte as the winningest September/October pitcher.
The problem with Damon is that he is still a Red Sock at heart. It is killing him to see them have success and another world Championship without him… he came here to try as a way to get back a them but he never wanted to leave in the first place. He is disgruntled as a result… he still keeps in touch with what they are doing and is tight with all of the players. He came here for money.
He is the perfect example of a mercenary. Though he does play with heart and is a gamer.
Pete please take a look and comment, i would really apreciate it.
http://patvendittefanclub.com/
TekNetick:
By definition, they’re all mercenaries. Posada was ready to go to the Mets if the Yankees didn’t pay him.
It’s also not “killing” Damon to see Boston do well. He made his choice. He enjoys living in New York and playing for the Yankees. He came here because they offered him more money, not to “get back” at them. That’s not how modern athletes think.
And if Johnny is disgruntled, sign me up. He’s the happiest guy in the room most days.
And look at the Boston roster. He actually hasn’t played with a lot of their players.
People read too much into things. Players go where they go for money and opportunity. The rest is just filler for the papers.
The Yankees need to sign two quality FA pitchers, which will enable them to package some of their minor league pitching depth for young athletic position players.
However the pickings might be slim if:
CC doesn’t want to play here.
Burnett’s wife loves Toronto and he gets an extension for more money.
Lackey’s option is picked up, ditto for injured Brad Penny.
Dempster resigns with Cubs, Perez with Mets and Sheets with Brewers.
Jon Garland for 4-5 years?? I hope not.
Who does that leave on the FA market, that’s under 33 yo-Looper?
BREAKING NEWS : Tampa finishes the Season 4-10 and we complete the 15 game winning streak that we already 3 games into and suddenly…there is an October again at the Stadium !!!! ( OK,,,I am awake now ) LOL
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Pete,
That exchange with Mr. Mignogna brought tears to my eyes. Thank you.
I would love to hear Yogi’s response to the same question.
Yankee Trader, there is all kinds of talk how CC doesn’t want to play with the Yankees. All that means nothing at this point. All talk and rumors are meant to drive up the price to sign.
The pitchers who are able to will go on the market because they know they will get a good deal of money. Options that can be picked up will be, but this year will have a lot of clubs looking for pitching and few pitchers available. Its why Santana might have given away money by signing the extention with the Mets.
Playoff predictions here:
TB vs LAA> LAA> LAA in 6 World series: LAA in 6
CHW vs BOS>BOS>
PHI vs MIL>MIL>
CHC vs LAD>CHC> CHC in 7
Weird seeing Kay & the Gang video with White Sox audio.
game time?
E-60 on ESPN right now has a story on how the new Yankee Stadium has taken away from the Bronx Parks.
“E-60 on ESPN right now has a story on how the new Yankee Stadium has taken away from the Bronx Parks”
it has but the plan is to build more
Don’t rule out Sabathia – remember that Damon said he’d never play for the Yankees!
This Jeter hit record is being overhyped. It’s only hits at Yankee Stadium – the real passing of Gehrig won’t be for a year or two. enough already!
Seems the city and state is really paying 656 million dollars, even though the Yankees were paying for the whole thing. The stadium also won’t be taxed ever.
Andy Pettitte needs a win tonight and also needs 5 strikeouts to hit 2,000.
Bench Damon for not hustling. He should have been on 2nd base.
Congratulations, Derek Jeter.
Whoo Whoo!
Amazing! Congrats to Derek!
Can’t say enough.
And he does it. Well done, my Captain.
Many Congrats to Derek!
wow, what a great hit. Bogus hit for a non-record. Yawn. That was about as legitimate as Favre taking a dive for Strahan’s sack record.
congratulations derek!!!!!!
congrats to to the Cap’n.
Congratulation Jeter!
Or as legit as your posts, Duke. Back under the bridge, troll
Of all the dumb things you post on this blog ER, you really topped yourself with the Jeter comment.
Now you can go and watch your Red Sox play.
I wish–just once–that Michael Kay would let a moment breathe.
On one hand, we got Jeter getting a historical hit, and on the other hand we got A-Rod striking out in 3 pitches with a RISP and Giambi popping out in the same situation.
Okay calm down Michael Kay.Kay making Jeter like he is a better baseball player then Gerig after hitting another stupid bloop single.Thats $18 million at best.
At least Mo can break records and still be the best in the game.
Congrats to Jeter! Too bad he’ll only remember being stranded.
How much did that suck???
Nice moment for Jeter followed by a typical wasted rally by these 08 Yanks
It’s even sadder that I’m not shocked
Sadly appropriate for 2008 that’s Jeter’s hit could just have easily been a GIDP. Sigh.
Nonetheless, great achievement for the Captain, it’s been a joy to watch him play for all these years, this one included.
Thanks AJ
Pete — re your Jete vs. Arod comment. You know, it’s just karma. Arod should never have bad-mouthed his supposed best friend in Esquire.
Unfortunately, life doesn’t always let us move on easily from mistakes we make, even when we try to to make amends.
Kinda ironic that this season has turned into a season that is known just for personal accomplishments instead of team victories.
woohoo.
Nicely done Derek.
Posada is entitled to voice his opinions as a veteran catcher, and they’re worth hearing even if one doesn’t share them. He’s one of the main leaders on the Yankees, and his confrontational, fiery style complements Jeter’s quieter approach perfectly. Michael Kay talked earlier in the year about how Posada’s absence has affected the team as much in the locker room as on the field. Kay said Posada would get up in people’s faces, and that there are people in that locker room who are actually afraid of him. And Pete said he thinks Posada would have put Robi up against it some time ago, had he been here.
Lost in the furor about Posada’s opinions about Joba’s optimal role were his comments comparing the dynasty Yankees’ expectation of winning every game and absolute hatred of losing to the current team’s passive acceptance of falling short. This is the kind of mindset that made the 1996-2000 Yankees the great team that they were. We all clamor for the Yankees to get more grinders who play hard and have a passion for winning. Well, Jorge Posada is just that kind of player. It’s inconsistent, then, to take exception when Posada speaks out because we find it discomfiting. I guess everyone likes veteran players to voice their opinions without holding back until they actually do, then not so much.
I love the MY9 question Kay just read: “Do the Yankees need to make wholesale changes for the 2009 season?”
I’m afraid the Yanks will be paying full retail for some of the changes we all want them to make.
Pete, I agree, that was definitely an E5, but for the most amazing unbelievable baseball god symmetry in the world, I was elated that it was scored a hit. I was peeling onions but also cried for real. I don’t even think it’s possible to wrap one’s mind around the enormity of what we just witnessed with DJ passing the Iron Horse. How blessed we as Yankee fans have been to watch Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera play baseball for the New York Yankees.
I was listening to the pregame in the car and heard Waldman interview Andy. There was something very sweet about hearing Andy say that even though it’s a long shot they are still hoping that some magic can happen for them to make the playoffs. I loved it. I guess I feel the same way but it was so nice to hear him say the team is still going for it all.
Several of the Yankees went over and took a tour of the new Stadium today. “It’s huge,†Darrell Rasner said. “That’s the first thing that strikes you.â€
For several hundred million it oughta be, I would prefer if that was the last time Rasner sees that stadium.
jack lambert September 16th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
sj44 > trisha
And trisha > “jack lambert”
See, it’s all good!
I think Jetes needs to get another hit tonight, because I wouldn’t be very surprised if they re-scored the first one as an error. Although the fielder did not technically touch the ball, I think he should have had it.
This is funny, actually, because when he tied the record, didn’t he joke about having a hit taken back????
(I hope it doesn’t happen; just saying I wouldn’t be surprised.)
Damn
Wonder if Michael Kay is gonna blame the Yankees defense on that homerun.
Doreen, how amazing will it be though if they end up scoring it a hit, and he passes the Iron Horse with exactly one more hit.
That whole thing is other worldly.
Trisha -
I was crying too. My poor daughter had no idea why! It just touched me. This record is ancient. And Jeter’s defined the Yankees now for a whole new generation of fans. It was just a great moment. (So, I really hope he gets another hit, just in case!)
Al,
What if they did it like an Idol elimination?
Group A: Edwar, Sid, Pav, Rasner
Group B: Jackson, Ransom, Sanchez, Marte
“Group A, will you please follow us?”
Oh, yeah. Trivia hint: Pitches in the NL and went to the WS in the last 10 years.
Trisha -
It would be other worldly, but I sure hope it doesn’t happen that way because that would mean he’d be having a terrible balance of the homestand!
Doreen, there wasn’t much reaction time, since Uribe was about 8-10 feet in the grass on a hard hit ball. That was one of those “It could have been caught more than it should have benn caught” sort of hits.
Doreen, oh no the other worldy part of it is just that he broke the record with one extra hit. We certainly won’t stop there!!!
GB7 -
I agree with you about the ball being hit and there not being much reaction time. Plus the ball never hit the fielder anywhere – like a laser right under his body, nowhere near the glove. So, while I think he’s safe, I’m hoping they don’t review it. Stranger things have happened, and it would be a fitting thing to happen this season.
I’m following the game on ESPN gamecast and it showed ramirez home run as pretty much leaving the whole stadium (further than any home run ive ever seen).
can someone just assure me that this was an ESPN mistake, and that did not really happen?
Doreen: Yes, Jeter made a joke about the Bernie Mac movie “Mr. 3000″ as his reason for not leaving surpassing the record to the final game. I’m sure he’ll get a less ambiguous hit, but I doubt they’ll change that one to an error.
And I can’t believe that little Smile-Cam girl has her own cell phone!
Jordan: Yeah, Ramirez wanted to the first player to hit a home run out of Yankee Stadium and the first to hit one INTO the new stadium on the same play.
nice hit gardner..lets see that speed!
WhooHoo. A real hit by Gardy.
Roreen, exactly. Uribe is a shortstop/2nd baseman and doesn’t get many rockets hit at him from that close. Also not sure which glove he’s wearing. 3rd and middle infielders usually have different size gloves.
I owe Gardner an apology. He is one heck of a good player and probably one of the fastest base runners I’ve ever seen – well okay there are a few who were really quick, like Mick the Quick and Ricky Henderson. But the other night when Gardner went from third to home if I blinked I would have missed him running!
***Doreen*** can answer that Roreen just left.
Mel-
That would be John Smoltz.
I think I believe Pete more on the Yankees situation that John Heyman.
Nice! 1-1 game
I love Johnny Damon. Perfect teammate, hard working player.
Those are the types of hits that haven’t been falling in for the Yankees most of the season.
If Brett could hit at all, he’d be a good leadoff hitter. He also has a pretty good eye, as he showed his first time up.
why is Kay hating on bunting? what if Jeter struck out?
trisha – please show a little restraint and quit feeding the trolls!
Yankee Trader,
No, but he was teammates with another guy who went to the WS with two different teams in the last 10 years.
people that boo A-Rod should have their constitutional rights taken away
Tom Glavine
Every time Jeter bunts, Michael Kay explodes.
mel -
Randy Johnson?????
and Kay is on the money
Pettitt sucks, he should be placed in the bull-pen.
Pettie BLowing up again
C’mon, Andy. Focus.
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Roy Oswalt .788 winning percentage in Sept/Oct
front page of mlb.com
Jeezus this team is pitiful.
Maybe we will see Humberto tonight. Andy on Sunday night to close the stadium should be fun.
IPK about to take the hill in Oklahoma City – it would be nice to see him do well.
Im happy andy fail again, thats for all of you that didnt appreciate what aceves did yesterday
“trisha – please show a little restraint and quit feeding the trolls!”
bob – please show a little restraint and quit telling me what to do dear.
If there is one guy I don’t want to see pitch again for the Yankees it is Andy P. He took the money and ran like a coward in 2003. Then he took the money when he didn’t want to pitch last yr and this yr. Good riddance to him.
this is going to be a short outing for pettitte…
Gardner is very fast and a great baserunner.
But if his OBP won’t hit Cano levels he should never be a starter.
sunny I don’t think it’s the team that’s pitiful tonight. Hopefully Andy will get out of this. I have to wonder if Girardi has given in to knowing the season is out of reach because if he held onto that thread of hope he’d be out there yanking Andy out of the game.
I wish he would do that.
And Andy’s gonna close out the stadium? If he stinks it up on national TV, he may not even come out for his final start.
hey trisha…beckett throwing a gem, dear.
its been like this for the last 8 starts…
Well, there goes that nice 1-1 game
Suddenly he can find the plate.
Now I feel like crying for a different reason. I hope Pettitte’s just tired. This is so hard to watch. He seems to have one inning where he just looses it. But these guys are right. He’s not the same pitcher and if he wants to pitch next season, he’s going to have to make adjustments like Mussina did.
You can trash the offense all you want. It certainly didn’t produce like last year. But if Andy pitched like a good pitcher the 2nd half we’d be in the playoffs.
He’s been awful. No way he should be back.
Looks like there are plenty of good seats available in Bricktown, OK City. Why the heck couldn’t they have played the Astros/Cubs games there instead of in Chicago Junior, Wisconsin? I supposed MLB rules would forbid such a thing?
Pettitte wouldn’t crack the Boston rotation.
according to http://pinstripemania.blogspot.com/ the 2009 Yankees schedule will be announced at 1pm EST tomorrow afternoon
Doreen, and Andy was tapped to pitch the last game at the Stadium…
Anyone watching the Brickdown Showdown its on espn2
miranda has a nice swing
Either I am hallucinating or Kei Igawa is the 1st base coach tonight for the SWB Yanks – I guess he has picked up some english!
Trisha -
IF he pitches, I have no doubt that Andy will find a way to gut that out. He will come through.
Gawd, Pettitte really is in complete decacy. Sad to see such a great player become completely incompetent. I hope he has the decency to retire as soon as the season is over (although I wish he retires tonight so he does not pitch on Sunday). Good memories from the past, but this season he really, really, really sucked.
Perfect game for Josh “Scum” Bucket
Way to get out of the jam, Andy.
Am NOT a fan of the IBB to load the bases.
Andy will pitch the last game. He might not last very long or he might pitch an inspired game. At this point who cares? He should start and Mo should finish. Clemens might show up, too.
“But if Andy pitched like a good pitcher the 2nd half we’d be in the playoffs.”
that is a bit of a — S – T – R – E – T – C – H — no?
“Clemens might show up, too.”
OH MY GOODNESSS! RAWJAH!
That would be hysterical.
TKinDC- ive been to about 10 SWB games this year and kei was the first base coach for about 4 of them. others players did it too, but i didn’t recognize them.
Cano can’t seem to loft the ball anymore.
I didn’t know that the gross hayseed josh beckett was pitching A NO HITTER. Say it isn’t so!
what time is tomorrows game? YES network, Yankee website and my tickets say 7:05 PM. Channel My9 say’s 1:05 did I miss something?
Pitching pitching pitching. Wish we had some.
bill, definitely a pm game.
“Pitching pitching pitching. Wish we had some.”
Shame you missed Aceves, sunny…
Yes the Offense has been awful at times this year; however, a healthy Matsui and Posada, along with bounce back years from Jeter and Cano will help the team score more runs and be more consistent.
Even with all their troubles the Yankees have scored more runs this season than both Tampa and the Angles.
The Yankees need pitching.
what time is tomorrows game? YES network, Yankee website and my tickets say 7:05 PM. Channel My9 say’s 1:05 did I miss something?
definitely a night. im going to the game tomorrow as well.
Pettitte is now 1 strikeout short of 2,000. Big accomplishment for a pitcher that’s not a strikeout pitcher. About 1450 as a Yankee….#3 on the all time Yankee list.
Say “thank you trisha”. Ugly Beckett’s no hitter is no more!
HA HA HA HA HA!
:LOL:
i caught a glimpse of the minor league game, Juan Miranda looks really musclular. I thought the double he hitted was a homer. wow…
And
too!
Actually credit goes to ER. He actually mentioned it first.
Good job ER!
2 for 2….now this is a legit hit…
Whew – now I can relax! (j/k)
Ian wanted the ball, well he got it. He is getting shelled at this moment with no control at all.
THAT would have been the classic Jeterian hit to break the record. We’ll have to settle for that one to extend it.
“Ian wanted the ball, well he got it. He is getting shelled at this moment with no control at all.”
Why am I not surprised.
trisha, if josh beckett is ugly, what’s your take on sidney ponson and jorge posada?
Come on ghosts!!!
Now for the inevitable:
a complete game one-hit shutout for Mr. “Scum” Bucket.
Exciting AB, but Giambi just fouled off Ball Six.
at least Giambi is driving his pitch count up.
And Alex and Jeter ran the mile.
crap.
on a stick.
yeesh
Yuck. That was just not good. Funny, but not good.
LOL Jorge.
still came up empty. Sad to say that this is a typical 2008 Yankee inning… sigh.
Great at bat…bad ending..
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LMAO at Posada, though…yelling to Rodriguez and offering him a drink of energy.
“Sad to say that this is a typical 2008 Yankee inning… sigh.”
True enough.
NO NOT GIESE!! We want Humberto.
just be glad that Giambi drove up his count. he’s getting tired.
Typical 2008: home run with bases empty, strike out with ‘em full. Scoffs.
Thank the Lord for YES, and not having to suffer through Hawk.
WOW!
I could’ve sworn Nady was batting over .300 recently.
What the hell is with this .280?
Guess it’s contagious.
1-0 World Champions over Tampon Bay
Magical number will we 2 after tonight!!!!
Playing for pride is FUN…..isn’t it?
The End is Near
September 16th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
1-0 World Champions over Tampon Bay
Magical number will we 2 after tonight!!!!
Playing for pride is FUN…..isn’t it?
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Boston fans had nearly of century playing for pride, and nearly all of it came up empty on the pride.
“Playing for pride is FUN…..isn’t it?”
Sorry but you’ll have to hop over to the Sons of Sam Horn forum and ask all the huddled masses there. They have so much more experience in that area.
Thanks!
GB – great minds…
“WOW!
I could’ve sworn Nady was batting over .300 recently.
What the hell is with this .280?
Guess it’s contagious.”
people say this so much…the 280 is with the yankees alone…overall he is batting .312
Unless Pettitte’s shoulder in aching, it made no sense to remove him with the bottom of the order and only 77 pitches.
Trish,
You’re still holding a grudge against Beckett for handing it to you in 2003?……..sad, very sad
He’s going to lead us to the promise land!
egads – why the bloody hell is veras in there – so much for a 2 run deficit. It’ll probably end up being a 4 run deficit before the inning is over…
I love Moose Skowron, he brought it every day.
Magical number will we 2 after tonight!!!!
What?
I hope Sunday goes 6 innings of Pettitte, 2 innings of Joba, and 1 inning of Mo. The past, the future, and the greatest of all time.
Nice pitch out!
trisha – BRING BOBBY BACK!
September 16th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
GB – great minds…
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Careful, Trisha…don’t let The Great One catch you thinking like me.
GB –
At least it stayed in the park.
this is what happens when you put Veras in the game.
“It’s admirable that Pettitte wants to keep pitching. But it could be time to shut him down.”
Yep. HGH karma I guess. Definitely not into hearing his postgame interview since it will duplicate the last 8!
mets losing to nats again! COLLAPSE…THE SEQUEL
Veras stinks lately.
predicition coming true… what the HELL is wrong with Girardi?? Wake UP you pimple!
JOE!! Where is Humberto. We want to see Humberto pitch, we are tired of the same old bums.
Jose Veras has lost it. No control.
time to replace Veras.
jeezus christ – veras is horrible.
I love Gardner more now that I know he is a young ballplayer who appreciates classic rock.
Carlos Pena said take that!
nice going Brett. Let’s see if someone can get him home now
gardner gave it a ride
I love Gardner more now that I know he is a young ballplayer who appreciates classic rock.
I think Gardner is starting to adapt to ML pitching.
I want Andy, Veras, and A-Rod off my team.
obsessed with carmines… aren’t we trish!
“I want Andy, Veras, and A-Rod off my team.”
Its more their team than yours.
flyball or ground to the right.
Kennedy is looking very good so far… let him come up and replace Andy.
Brett Gardner = our Jose Reyes.
funny how the media hypes Gardner more than Melky was at this point of his career.
“I want Andy, Veras, and A-Rod off my team.”
Then you have 29 other teams to choose from to root for because the Yankees would rather have them than you.
jeezus – I wish Gardner could hit more regularly – he’s a great base threat.
thats because Bret can run
Can we see Sanchez? Let him finish this game instead of the likes of Edwar, Robertson, Giese etc.
Nice a lead off double. And we get nothing!
More runners LOB.
What a waste.
crap – yet ANOTHER wasted opportunity.
Gardner isn’t all hype, he can play ball they just need consistancy from him in order to be an everyday. His speed is an enormous tool and they need him to be XBH type guy, period just get to 1B.
BTW I was watching 90210 so can anybody catch me up on what I missed here other than the Jeter hit.
It’d be nice to see Humberto I mean his parents and friends are at the Stadium. BTW I was text messaged all day you guys hear that Tatis is out for the season ?
Just the epitome of our season right there.
Hey guys, don’t know if any of you care, but the gov’t just announced a massive bail out loan concerning AIG.
Check CNN/Yahoo/Google News for details.
Unfortunately Andy put us in this bind. Lately he’s been pretty awful.
Brandon, cliff notes of the game:
- Gardner is improving
- Andy is finished
- Arod got booed
- Veras added gasoline to the fire
- 9 hits, only 2 runs.
It’d be nice to see Humberto I mean his parents and friends are at the Stadium. BTW I was text messaged all day you guys hear that Tatis is out for the season ?
al i know that:
Fernando Tatis left Tuesday’s game in the fifth inning with an apparent right shoulder injury.
OUCH! ESPN crawl says Tatis seperated his shoulder in the Mets game.
E and Ed thanks for the updates.
Rebecca – We should all care about this info.
Can we expand on the Gardner improving comment in what way ?
Hey guys, don’t know if any of you care, but the gov’t just announced a massive bail out loan concerning AIG.
how about Washington Mutual? I switched banks just incase they do run out of business and run off with the customer’s money.
Rebecca–Optimist Prime
September 16th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Hey guys, don’t know if any of you care, but the gov’t just announced a massive bail out loan concerning AIG.
Check CNN/Yahoo/Google News for details.
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AIG? Is that American Independent Graft Corp.?
Amazing. Only just over 300 comments here tonight. I guess the Yankee Band Wagon has lost some fans on the recent bumpy trip.
Can we expand on the Gardner improving comment in what way ?
Long worked with Gardner all day today. he was using his legs more to get more hits and hitting to all fields.
Actually I’d feel better if I heard someone was going to bail out our damned government!
We might see Melancon on the Bricktown showdown on ESPN2 tonight.
Yeah, but there are over 1200 comments already on the Bricktown Showdown page.
how many ground rule double have there been in this game?
It’s funny how nobody knew who the hell Nate McClouth was 2 months ago now the diet coke bandit mentioned him and mysteriously developed an Arroyo-type love for him after seeing him play 3 games against the Yankees, and now people want to trade the farm for him.
Some things never change Kennedy close to 100 pitches in the 5th inning
Rule change for 2009: if you hit the pitcher with your bat, you’re out.
AIG is the biggest insurance group in the nation, I believe.
Jen, we should all care…and we should have cared ages ago when we could have done something to prevent it. What, I have no idea, but it should have never gotten to this point.
My brother has a job with one of the major banks (for sake of his privacy I won’t mention which) and I feel really bad for him.
Ed: WaMu not looking good, either.
what happened to the “good” bullpen
Kennedy is dealing tonight
It’s funny how far the likes of Veras, Edwar, Giesr, Robertson etc. have fallen while a nobody like Coke and the erratic Bruney have ascended to the top this month.
Nasty pitch. You don’t see Rodriguez break many bats.
That AIG collapse not so surprising. Just another domino in the sub-prime meltdown.
Once the Yankees did not score in the 1st, I really didn’t feel good about this game.
Rebecca, you will learn more and more that unfortunately “we” don’t have a heck of a lot of input or say. My state was the first in the US to be declared in a formal recession. It never should have gotten to that either, but the people elected to mind the store don’t seem to have done a real good job of it.
Now isn’t the time or place to be discussing this stuff, but I did want to weigh in on the helplessness factor that we always end up feeling. Time for a clean sweep in our damned government!
GO YANKEES!
Andy has become a liability, I don’t want the final game in YS to be a loss this Sunday.
I’d rather bring up somebody like Marquez or Jason Jones to start the final game just to give us a chance.
We’re not the Angels ! WTF is that hanging rat on that kids head…P.S. it should be covering his eyes.
Doreen, I just cannot seem to be able to get past the Andy factor. It was easy for Chicago’s pitcher to get a head of steam after Andy gave up 4 runs.
There are still more dominoes to fall too, I think.
They’ve had plenty of chances to score runs though – and haven’t.
Trisha: It’s more complicated than that.
There are some things that we can’t control, but there are some things we can do to help ourselves, like, for instance, being smart about where we invest money.
The best thing we can do is just to be informed. Watch the news. Read the WSJ or The Economist once in a while. Pick up the WSJ guide to money and investing–it has tons of pictures and makes investing really easy to understand when you’re like me and have utterly no interest in it.
It’s one thing not to be able to do something, it’s another not to care.
Rebecca
Everyone should care. I was talking to a neighbor. She said if AIG wasn’t bailed out, it would have been worse than 1929.
Miranda looks awful. I thought this guy was supposed to be our Daniel Murphy?
“Andy has become a liability, I don’t want the final game in YS to be a loss this Sunday.”
I agree.
Angel -
That’s it. They’ve had some great opportunities; some great at-bats that ended with nothing. Or like that, some balls hit hard with nothing to show for it. ARod hits the ball with men on base and gets robbed of an RBI.
Oh, well.
Miley needs to put in Melancon in the 8th, regardless of score. He should know this game is televised and we want to see him.
Nobody wants to see Strickland/Kroneke.
Miranda looks awful. I thought this guy was supposed to be our Daniel Murphy?
He did hit a double tonight
jennifer: My dad says it’s never been this bad in his lifetime. I asked him how bad it was going to get back in March, and he said the worst since the Depression.
My dad’s spent his life in business. He generally knows what he’s talking about.
The amount of balls hit hard and going for nothing, are incredibly frustrating. Symbolic of this year, I think.
There have been a lot of them.
Is Andy starting on Sunday?? I’m nervous.
The scariest part about the AIG news is that our govt is loaning them $85 billion it doesn’t have, it’ll just add to the ginormous loan that we owe China.
This guy Wing has nasty stuff
Nats shutout Mets 1-0
Hannrahan looked like Joba in the 9th.
Steer clear of sports talk in NY tonight. The Mets lost.
Try having a good chunk of your 401k tied up in health insurance stocks, with the threat of socialized medicine on the horizon. Its really aggravating.
To be fair to Pettitte, he wasn’t great (again), but he only gave up 4 runs. This team had the opportunity to get some runs for him and did not. It could have been at least a tie game when he left. He had one horrible inning. Again, the offense can’t do it.
So I know that as a Yankee Fan this season has been a huge disappointment, but I can’t help but get excited for the end of the season.
Just think about it… No more Giambi, maybe no more Veras, Edwar.
Then think of all the maybes coming in.. CC (who by the way looks worn out) and maybe Burnett.
I’m excited as a Yankee fan for this off season because I want them to fix the team. However, my excited self will be very disappointed if they don’t fix the problems.
Mets lose a 1-0 game in DC.
Phillies trailing Atlanta 7-6 in the bottom of the 7th.
Rebecca I am starting to get nervous about all these companies going under. This is going to cause a huge domino effect. Malls, restaurants are empty. It is frightening. Everyone should be aware of what is happening.
pat -
But are the Phillies still losing? If the Phillies turn around and win, THEN watch out!
pat, you might want to steer clear of anywhere in NY south of midtown tonight.
Mets lose again. Watching them meltdown is pretty pleasing. Why can’t Girardi get Sanchez into a game already?
angel-I’ve got to look at mine this weekend. I am years away, but I am very afraid that I can lose what I have.
jenn, you want a domino affect? Look at the empty seats behind home plate at Yankee Stadium!
Rebecca, I’m not an economist but when the economy takes a nose dive there are always a lot of casualties. The people in charge of these institutions are the ones who bear the responsibility.
Why can’t Girardi get Sanchez into a game already?
IDK
Doreen
Still losing but getting shut out by the Nats no matter what Philly does is going to have the bridge jumpers out in full force.
Let’s not start a panic on the LoHud Yankee blog. Some of our financial institutions are going through a painful correction, and it could get worse before it gets better. Nonetheless, the GNP posted positive growth in the last quarter, unemplyment is high compared to recent years but historically low, and the Yankees are moving into a gold-plated palace. It’s not the Great Depression II. When the Steinbrenners say that they just can’t afford CC because of the financial crisis, THEN we panic.
Girardi—— nobody wants to see the likes of Veras, Robertson, and Giese, we want Sanchez.
Also in the 50′s that is where Lehman’s is. Neighbor said it was a mess yesterday, reporters people packing tourists (real nice). She could not get out of her building.
pat -
True. But if the Phillies win, they may actually jump!
What is the point of this “brick yard showdown”? Didn’t SWB already win the championship?
Trisha: They’re not the only ones at fault.
Nick: LMAO! Somehow I don’t think the Steinbrenners have to worry…
Now, if my lollipop company goes out of business, then there will be he-ll to pay!
its basically like a glorified exhibition game between two AAA leagues
Me too, Jennifer. I try not to look at mine and console myself with the fact that i’m a while away from needing it. But it is scary. You take the initiative and try to self fund your retirement as much as possible because you’ve seen the writing on the wall that Social Security won’t be there. But, because 401k’s are all tied in with these companies that are being bailed out, you’re screwed anyways.
Scranton used all thier runs vs Durham it looks like an easy shut out. Good heads up D by Ramiro Pena.
“Yankees are moving into a gold-plated palace”
That cost the Tax payers how much???
You’re really not thinking that this all happened overnight are you? The economy has been tanking for the last year or more. The dollar is virtually worthless overseas. You cannot really talk about any of this without recognizing that 8 years of one party has basically ruined an economy that was relatively healthy when Bush took over in Washington.
That’s it for me. We don’t want to talk politics here and we shouldn’t. But you cannot divorce what is happening from the way the government has been run.
Rebecca: I think the lollopop factory can hang out for a few more days, then you’re in the clear.
Clint: SWB won the championship of its league, the River Cats won the championship of their own league, so this is sort of a super-league showdown.
Good thing I stubbornly remain in academia, huh?
Melancon is warming up
Yep with all the money I’ve given to SS the baby boomers will take it all!!
Melancon was brought up too?
Jenn on ESPN2
“That cost the Tax payers how much???”
I’d rather subsidize the Yankees than lots of other things my taxes pay for.
jennifer -
Not the younger end of the baby boomers. We won’t see it, either.
who has more rbi’s, A-rod or K-Yuk?
Thanks Brandon.
Game over in Tampa! Walk-off Rays.
Ian Kennedy -
“I’m not too upset about this game”, said Kennedy after losing the Brickyard Showdown. “I thought I pitched well. 3 runs in 5 innings should usually win the game but today it didn’t. Some balls that are usually fielded found holes”.
“It’s just a game, an exhibition game. I belong with the big club anyway, I don’t even know why I am here”.
GO DIONER NAVARRO!!!!!
Nothing like an embedded ex-Yankee to stick it to the Sux.
GAME RAYS!!!!!
Did I miss him already?
“Girardi—— nobody wants to see the likes of Veras, Robertson, and Giese, we want Sanchez.”
Exactly. If Girardi doesn’t pitch this kid in the final week at YS, I’m going to lose it.
“What is the point of this “brick yard showdownâ€? Didn’t SWB already win the championship?”
Meaningless showdown between best team out of the PCL and the International league.
LLIME – hysterical!!!
Who was pitching for the Sox?
Henry Rodriguez pitching now…DAMN
Tampa Bay beat Boston 2-1…
Masterson.
What’s puzzling is how Beckett didn’t pitch a shutout; I thought he was an ace?
Thanks Trisha.
“What’s puzzling is how Beckett didn’t pitch a shutout; I thought he was an ace?”
Wow, after watching this game I now know what it feels like to be a Orioles fan. Meaningless baseball is no fun-but we watch it anyway…..
LLIME just hilarious
“Humberto Sanchez warming up. Might as well see some of the kids at this point.”
Very true Peter. Why this hasn’t happened already is what I’d like to know. Was Girardi realistically expecting a 10 game losing streak from the Sux and a 10 game win streak from us?
Guys…. G.I. Joe has a plan.
He wants tomorrow to be the “Futures Game”, where he can showcase the young talent all in one game!
He plans on using Hughes for 6, Coke for 7th, Sanchez for 8th, Joba for the 9th.
figured Betemit would strike out. good for nothing.
Well Betemit is either a hit or a strike out.
“figured Betemit would strike out. good for nothing.”
Yes, he was incredibly useless yesterday too.
Tom: the difference is, the astute Orioles fans know it from Opening Day.
ON the MLB Rays site it shows the winning and losing pitcher. From the pictures used the smiling Masterson (loser) and grumpy looking Wheeler, you would think it was the opposite results. Hillarious.
Henry Rodriguez is nasty. I remember Gammons drooling over him in Spring Training
Imagine a 1-2-3 in 3 years of Inoa – Gio Gonzalez – Henry Rodriguez.
Phillies take the lead 8-7
lame.
Depressing
Ramiro Pena RBI single off H-Rod
Phillies just went ahead 8-7
SWB finally scored a run.
Go SWB!
Go Twins!
Go Phillies!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....ent.1.html
Cool pictures.
Melancon is about to pitch..meanwhile the slowest national anthem in history is being sung.
I bet the guys turn on the TV in the clubhouse and watch their AAA team. Their AAA team did much better than the big league team and yes, they too had injuries and guys coming and going. But they did not make excuses!
Nevermind first is Chase Wright.
“Guys…. G.I. Joe has a plan.
He wants tomorrow to be the “Futures Gameâ€, where he can showcase the young talent all in one game!
He plans on using Hughes for 6, Coke for 7th, Sanchez for 8th, Joba for the 9th.”
I like this plan. Also Phillies winning if the Mets don’t make the playoffs I won’t be able to listen to sports talk in NY until at least Christmas.
Who are the announcers at the SWB Game? One of them said he was a Met, but did play for the Yankees in the pre-renovated Yankee Stadium.
Ryan Howard is on a tear at just the right time
OK Melancon is in
Ryan Howard = NL MVP, he’s done it all season
Melacon should have a seat in the bullpen right next to Rivera next year.
ESPN2 now everybody move it !
Doreen
Ron Swoboda?
I don’t think Scranton will give up. See unlike the big league team, they play till the last pitch.
There still may be hope. Gosh how many times have we said that this season?
“I bet the guys turn on the TV in the clubhouse and watch their AAA team. Their AAA team did much better than the big league team and yes, they too had injuries and guys coming and going. But they did not make excuses!”
Maybe they should Katie, but the only place these guys go after a game is to a club or out to dinner.
“Melacon should have a seat in the bullpen right next to Rivera next year.”
Absolutely. Mark is obviously heir apparent.
He works quick. Like a Ramiro Mendoza.
Even more reason to have Joba start Al. If they keep Joba in the pen, they have no place for Mark for 2 more years.
If Joba starts, Mark can take the 8th till Rivera retires.
I’m hoping Scranton shows that comeback spirit they have all season do it for Miley boys !
Indians just tied twins.
love seeing mets lose to 40 games below nationals
Did he play for the Yankees? I don’t know. Just looked it up. Could be him. Learn something new everyday.
The Heart of the order is up. Let’s see if they have any magic left in them.
Let’s go Shelley!!
Give the offense a spark
I’ve never seen any LHP hide the ball like that.
“Even more reason to have Joba start Al. If they keep Joba in the pen, they have no place for Mark for 2 more years.
If Joba starts, Mark can take the 8th till Rivera retires.”
You are the female version of me it seems lol. Exactly what I was thinking Mark and Humberto are bound for pen success. Joba belongs in the rotation and he knows it.
Doreen
He did play for the Yankees and the voice sounds like him but I’m not 100% sure.
That was another quick inning for Melancon. Man you need real accurate and quick bat speed vs him.
SWB needed Phil Hughes to start this game.
Frowny face.
Nick it really is an allstar game of champion vs champion.
Well boooooo to the allstar game of champion vs champion, then. You still want to win the game, right?
WOW great play by Conrad, Eric Duncan was robbed in his last AB of 2008.
tough way to end the year but they really had a great season..Congrats to SWB and heres to more success and the continued development of future NYY’s
And the Phillies are in 1st place.
Which means the Mets aren’t.
Phillies 8-7 final. Feel bad our boys down at SWB just lost.
anks lost with there usual formula.. no clutch hitting(even the arod and nady hard hit balls), the other team made numerous good defensive plays, and the yankee pitchers gave up multiple 0-2 hits and 2 out hits….
Veras has not pitched well in about a month….
Al-
Joba sounded ticked about the whole Posoda thing, but showed maturity as to not call anybody out like some of the vets did.
If the Yankees are so worried about his innings, they should have him play winter ball to let him get another 50+ innings under his belt. Then he would have reached the 140 innings of this year and we can try to stretch him out a little next year.
Gosh you and I should apply for the Managers job!
Sucks for SWB
By the way, even though we lost, we’re still tied for 3rd place! Woooooo!
Those aren’t just footsteps, Blue Jays, WE’RE UP IN YOUR GRILL!
“That was another quick inning for Melancon. Man you need real accurate and quick bat speed vs him.”
Which is why he should be the 8th inning guy next year.
Eric ripped that ball the 2B Conrad will definitely make sportcenters top play.
Pete Good call on the cotton eyed Joe. I never got that in N.Y.C. How about we retire YMCA, Dayo and every other sad, old gimmick this once proud franchise is using. The games are boring, the fans are boring, the food is the worst in any park. I could go on but you get the picture. The entire thing is a mess.
Go Yanks
Melancon, Coke, even Humberto Sanchez need to get long hard looks at spring training next year. They all should be in the pen by midseason
Oh…and Cox too.
so does Micheal Dunn (that’s right I said it !)
Dave D
September 16th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Henry Rodriguez is nasty. I remember Gammons drooling over him in Spring Training
Imagine a 1-2-3 in 3 years of Inoa – Gio Gonzalez – Henry Rodriguez.
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What do you mean, drooling in Spring Training? Gammons has been drooling for 15 years. Luckily that triple chin catches much of the overflow.
Brandon, I agree. Dunn needs to be put in that group as well.
Too bad there’s not any young middle inf. to come up and push cano….
Shaun Marcum left the Jays/Os game with tightness in his forearm and numbness in his pinky. MRI to follow.
Pat, Marcum’s had an issue off abd on mostof the season. You’d think the Blue Jays would be smart enough to shut him down. Watch for Tommy John surgery.
“Melancon, Coke, even Humberto Sanchez need to get long hard looks at spring training next year. They all should be in the pen by midseason”
They will because unless we sign K-rod(which wont happen) the bullpen for next year will have to be filled from within.
Shaun Marcum? How many young pitchers do the Jays want to ruin?
***off and on most of the season***
I agree with cotton eye joe – it may be fun for a fan the first time he comes to yankee stadium but realistically, how many ppl in the stadium are there for their first time? A handful each game and I bet some of them dont even enjoy the song. I have sunday season tickets and cotton eye joe has just lost anything it once had. New stadium calls for changes in the old material. I really hope they dont continue that lame song – no one even likes it at weddings or other celebrations anymore.
Baltimore lost a really promising young left hander is year in Loewen. It’s his shoulder, so, he’s converting to the outfield and first base. A real shame. He was going to be good.
“cotton eye joe” is what happens when you give a band full of hillbillies meth.
My prediction for the pen next year assuming they keep 7 relievers:
1)Mariano Rivera-closer
2)Mark Melancon- set-up guy
3)Humberto Sanchez- 7th inning guy
4)Phil Coke- Lefty reliever
5)Alfredo Aceves- spot starter/long man
6)Brian Bruney- 6th/7th inning guy
7)Edwar Ramirez- situational righty/keeping him because of his great change-up.
“I know he has an ugly ERA. But Dave Robertson had struck out 32 in 26.2 innings. I think he has a real chance to develop into a late-inning guy.”
I’m confused. This sounds like an exact description of Edwar Ramirez as well, yet Pete kills Edwar every time he allows a baserunner. Yet Robertson is seen as a guy who could be very reliable. This seems a bit unfair, or perhaps incomplete. What gives?
Brandon, I think Ramirez will go in a trade before Veras does.
1)Mariano Rivera-closer
2)Mark Melancon- set-up guy
3)Humberto Sanchez- 7th inning guy
4)Phil Coke- Lefty reliever
5)Alfredo Aceves- spot starter/long man
6)Brian Bruney- 6th/7th inning guy
7)Edwar Ramirez- situational righty/keeping him because of his great change-up.
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Which one is not like the others?
Mel, it’s Mariano Rivera. There’s nobody else like him.
Eddie for Jepsen?
GB,
lol Which one doesn’t belong?
“Ryan Howard = NL MVP, he’s done it all season”
Did you see the Phillies first 81 games of the year, where Howard batted .214/.309/.454 in 350 trips to the plate?
That is half the season where he was crap. There is no way this guy should be the MVP. The first 81 games are just as important as the last 81 games. Same thing applies for Delgado.
The NL MVP discussion is a joke because there is such an obvious player who is in a class of his own – Albert Pujols. He is insanely better than any other NL hitter this year, and it’s not remotely close. He’s batting .365/.465/.650 in 592 trips to the plate. Do you realize how extremely awesome thst is? He is having one of the greatest offensive seasons in recent memory. He is hitting .365. He gets on base 46.5% of the time. He is slugging at a rate that is only .040 lower than Babe Ruth’s career Slugging Percentage. And he is doing it with an injured elbow. Yet he gets no love because the 24 guys around him are nothing special. That is so unfair. He is a slam-dunk no-brainer for Nl MVP. Let’s see if the writers are dumb enough to screw this up. They just might be.
Ramirez gets a lot of credit for teaching himself that changeup, and seems like a nice young guy, but, he can’t control the fastball and it’s not that good, so, it really leaves him very little to change up off of. He, along with Geise, Rasner and probably Kennedy are better suited to the big NL parks and the NL West in particular. Maybe package them with Igawa and Cabrera to a team like San Diego. Perhaps for a Kevin Kouzmanoff.
Mel, it’s late, I’m slow and old. Pete Gammons has infected my mind. I’ll go with Ramirez.
Tidbits on the closing ceremony at the Stadium on Sunday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09.....f=baseball
MAN! Gardner, Damon, and Jeter get on base 7 times and the Yankees can only get 2 runs. The “heart” of the order really stunk it up tonight.
I don’t know what the story is, but I have noticed that songs that are on the video game Rock Band, which Gimme Shelter is, have been requested on classic rock and showing up often. I wouldn’t be surprised if that is where he heard the song.