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Game 154: Orioles at Yankees

September
19

YANKEES (82-71)
Damon DH
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
A. Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Nady LF
Cano 2B
I. Rodriguez C
Gardner CF
Pavano RHP

ORIOLES (67-84)
Roberts 2B
Markakis RF
Mora 3B
Huff 1B
Scott LF
Jones CF
Hernandez C
Montanez DH
Castro SS
Liz RHP

Carl Pavano (3-1, 5.26) vs. the Baltimore hitters.

Radhames Liz (6-5, 6.90) against the New York hitters.

Notes: The Yankees have won two straight and five of their last six. … The Yankees are 8-7 against the Orioles this season. … Baltimore has lost two straight. … The Yankees are 5-2 on the homestand with three games to go.

DOUBLE YOUR PLEASURE: Baltimore’s Aubrey Huff, Nick Markakis and Brian Roberts are on pace to hit at least 50 doubles this season, which would make them the first three teammates to accomplish that feat in the same season. Roberts is the closest, with 49 doubles. Huff has 48, and Markakis is at 47. They are ranked second, third and fourth in the majors in doubles, trailing only Boston Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia, who has a league-leading 50.

The Yankees leader in case you were wondering is Bobby Abreu with 38.

GOING OUT IN STYLE: Derek Jeter is 34 of his last 75 at the Stadium.

WHO GETS THE LAST ONE: The Yankees have hit 11 homers on the homestand.

DARRELL DISAPPEARS: Darrell Rasner has thrown one inning since his last start on Sept. 4.

LIKE RIDING A BIKE: Joba Chamberlain since he returned: 6 games, 6 innings, 7 hits, 1 run, 1 walk, 7 strikeouts. Off the top of my head, I remember three of the hits being broken-bat cheapies.

HELD FOR RANSOM: The legend of Cody Ransom is not having a good ending. After a 6 for 8 start, he is 2 for 16.

Check back later for updates.

UPDATE, 4:41 p.m.: Here is Joe Girardi’s pregame press conference. He talks about Brett Gardner and what will be going on this Sunday:

UPDATE, 6:25 p.m.: Talked to Mike Mussina this afternoon. He wants to purchase the flag pole from Yankee Stadium and install it at his home in Pennsylvania. “I know it’s going to cost me,” he said. “But that’s what I want.”

Mussina even has planned out how he will get it home. The idea, he said, would be disassemble the pole, have it hauled to Pennsylvania on a truck then welded back together.

Moose even wants a flag from this weekend to run up the pole every morning.

You have to give the man credit, it’s a lot more original than a couple of seats.

UPDATE, 6:49 p.m.: Kudos to Johnny Damon. His wife gave birth yesterday and he came right back to play. A lot of players in this situation would have taken an extra day and nobody would have said a word.

People who give Damon a hard time are clueless. He has given this team everything he has.

UPDATE, 7:45 p.m.: It’s very strange covering these games, I have to tell you. The actual game is largely insignificant, especially with somebody like the Idle on the mound. I’m most curious to see how a guy like Brett Gardner does to try and evaluate him for the future.

Lots of empty seats here, too. People are waiting for Sunday I guess.

UPDATE, 8:15 p.m.: Look at that gritty, gutty, scrappy Bret Gardner make a great catch. You have to love it.

I have no idea whether he can hit at this level. The adjustments he has made lately have helped. But if he can play to a .330-.340 OPB, the Yankees should play him every day next season. He would save a lot of runs.

UPDATE, 8:20 p.m.: Inspired by Gardner, Bobby Abreu just came within 10 feet of the wall in right and made a catch. … TV likely didn’t show this, but the Idle and Jeter waited for Gardner on the field near the dugout and congratulated him on making his catch.

UPDATE, 9:10 p.m.: Phil Coke, the greatest Yankee ever, is confirmed for Sunday’s ceremony. He’ll be out there with Whitey, Guidry and the rest of the great pitchers.

Brian Bruney, meanwhile, has been a terror for about a month now. Two hits in his last 15.1 innings and 13 K’s.

UPDATE, 9:24 p.m.: Joba time in the 8th.

UPDATE, 9:26 p.m.: Like a good American, I stand up for God Bless America. But I usually look down to see what jerseys people have on.

This one guy had on a No. 19 Keyshawn Johnson Jets jersey. Somebody else had a Kei Igawa blue t-shirt. If that is what you have to wear, you need to stay home.

UPDATE, 9:43 p.m.: As the final games grows closer, hundreds of people are snapping photos of certain players. Based on the flashbulbs, Jeter is the most popular subject followed by Mo, Joba, The Big G and then the field. There is very little camera love for A-Rod.

UPDATE, 9:46 p.m.: Jobamania, by the way, is popping the heater at 96 again. We haven’t seen the 99s yet but he’s building arm strength.

UPDATE, 10:05 p.m.: I’m sure it’ll be good across the street. But I’m going to miss seeing Mo jog in from left field here. It’s always a cool moment.

UPDATE, 10:08 p.m.: Was that the final jump throw from Jeter at the Stadium? The crowd started chanting his name. Meanwhile Mo is 94, 95 and locating.

UPDATE, 10:16 p.m.: It wasn’t easy but that’s 37 saves for Mo and somehow the Idle is 4-1. What a strange season. The Yankees gave won three straight and six of seven.

Thanks for reading.

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530 Responses to “Game 154: Orioles at Yankees”

  1. yankeefan91

    come on yankees let win these last 3games at home

  2. CaShBuM ( Sign manny )

    SWEEP!

  3. RalphieD

    go Yankees!

  4. Tint

    LETS GO YANKS!! WIN ONE FOR THE TINTY!!!!

  5. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster)

    Friggin’ Cody Ransom.

  6. CaShBuM ( Sign manny )

    Another 7 era guy YIKES! 7inning 5 hits 1 run

  7. Clint

    Listening to Andy on the FAN now is so sad. You can tell he is miserable and mad at himself for his performance this year.

    I hope we bring him back.

  8. Brandon (Humberto's coming home !)..."Reward Colin Curtis's .414 postseason AVG "

    Damn I wanted to see Miranda at 1B vs Liz.

  9. TeKNetick

    Pete, don’t worry . . . We will see plenty of Rasner on Sunday evening when Andy is gone after 2 innings and 6 runs.

  10. Tom

    It’s kinda symbolic that the last game is goning to be played on the last day of summer.

  11. mel

    I can’t believe we’re down to 3 games in the stadium.

    Can anyone edge out Boston? Minny’s not much closer than we are. They’re 7 back, we’re 8 back in the loss column but tied with Toronto, who host the Sox.

    Just win.

  12. AZ Four

    The team just needs some more vets

  13. Nick in SF

    SJ: you are correct, the opening day roster was in no way inferior, and truth be told there was always enough firepower to have done better than they did. Still, the number of starts that ended up going to Ponson and Rasner alone… very sad.

  14. stu

    “Listening to Andy on the FAN now is so sad. You can tell he is miserable and mad at himself for his performance this year.

    I hope we bring him back.”

    I agree … it is so hard NOT to root for someone like Andy … you can tell it is killing him inside that he struggled in the 2nd half. The hold overs from the last Dynasty years are so special to me … just for that reason alone i hope Andy comes back

  15. Forntoso

    Could we also be mathematically eliminated by game-time that day if the Sox win in the afternoon?

    Wouldn’t that just be fitting?

  16. On the Road

    Is that record vs. the Orioles right? Even after we swept them we are still only 7-8?

  17. SJ44

    Nick,

    No question. That’s why, at least to me, I don’t deal any pitching in the off-season. You buy what you need in the free agent market this off-season.

    That way, you keep pitching depth throughout the organization so you don’t have to reach back and bring in the Ponson and Rasner types again.

    Nothing personal against those guys, who obviously tried their best. But, you have to have better depth than that if you are the Yankees.

    By keeping and continuing to develop young pitching, you won’t have to search the waiver wire to find replacements when guys get hurt.

  18. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    Go Yanks!

  19. David Cone's Labrum

    Having a hard time believing they are granting field access to ticket holders before Sunday night’s game.

    I envision mostly professional behavior, but what’s stopping some punk from gouging out a section of outfield turf, or worse?

    I’ll believe it when I see it – Sunday at 1pm!!!

  20. On the Road

    Pete,

    I actually think WE are up 8-7 on Baltimore, not the other way around. Can you confirm?

  21. Mike S.

    Last Yankee to HR at the original Stadium (1923-1973) was Duke Sims.

    Last Yankee to hit a grand slam at the original Stadium was Fred Stanley.

  22. LLIME

    Chad Moller will hit the final HR in YS.

  23. Drive 4-5

    I find it very hard to believe that Jeter, A Rod and Cano will repeat the same type of season next year.

    Kevin Long has worked with Cano to close his stance. He’s hitting the ball with much more authority now. My only question is why did they wait till the end of September?

    ARod’s divorce has had to have an effect on him this year. How could it not? I’ll predict that 2009 is a lot closer to 2007 than this year for A Rod.

    If the Yanks could somehow pry Texeira away from the Angels and sign CC,they will be contenders next year. The Yanks could hold on and develop their pitchers. It would be nice if Phil Hughes had one more season in AAA rather then being force fed into the rotation.

  24. On the Road

    I dont want to harp on the record vs. the O’s but i can’t live with the possibility that Baltimore has a winning record vs. the Yanks so here you go.

    4-18 Yankees Lost
    4-19 Yankees Lost
    4-20 Yankees won (1)

    5-20 Yankees Lost
    5-21 Yankees won (2)
    5-22 yankees won (3)

    5-26 yankees lost
    5-27 Yankees Lost
    5-28 yankees won (4)

    7-28 Yankees Lost
    7-29 Yankees Lost
    7-30 yankees won (5)

    8-22 yankees won (6)
    8-23 yankees won (7)
    8-24 yankees won (8)

  25. Pepitone

    “You buy what you need in the free agent market this off-season.”

    SJ, you really think the Yankees are going to give Sabathia (who doesn’t want to play here anyway) a long term huge money contract ($200 mill for 10 years)? Even a Burnett or a Sheets are going to demand long term, no trade, big money contracts, don’t you think the Yankees have gone to that well too often?

    I don’t see it.

  26. jonathan c.

    Can we either provide a link to where Sabathia (CC himself, not friends of CC or family of CC or elementary school teachers of CC) said he didn’t want to play here, or stop throwing it around as fact?

  27. Wave Your Hat

    I would trade minor league pitching in a heartbeat to bring us help in the field and at the plate.

    There’s more FA talent available on the mound than at the plate, especially if rumors are true and Tex isn’t destined to be a Yankee.

    We are going to need to replace Giambi and maybe Abreu, we don’t have a CF and Cano and Posada have question marks.

    Among other things, the lack of a decent bench really hurt us this year.

  28. mel

    I’d wager a large amount of money that the Yankees are not going to sign Ben Sheets.

    If you get neither AJ nor CC then you have:

    Wang
    Joba
    Moose
    Pettitte
    Hughes/Aceves/possibly Coke

    Not half bad. Washburns or Livans or other middling pitchers aren’t going to help.

  29. 86w183

    Pep— Quit making crap up will you?

    CC Sabathia has NEVER said he doesn’t want to play in New York. If the richest team in baseball is not going to pursue the best FA pitcher who is in his prime then what are they going to do? Everything you post is defeatist and negative.

    What’s your strategy for improving this team? A seance? Ouija Board? You gonna boycott FA forever? If so get used to missing the post-season.

    Then again, that might just fit in with your depressing mindset.

  30. Sea Net

    Pepitone,

    I think they will investigate how badly CC wants to play here. All indications through the media are that he has no interest in playing here. They won’t bid $160-$175 million for 8 years for a guy who doesn’t want to be here. Remember, the biggest obsticle for players coming here is mental. If CC’s head really isin’t in it, it will show and he won’t be successful. Maybe he doesn’t want to have all this pressure on him and all the rules we have here (no facial hair, no candy etc.) and would rather go to a laid back environment. And it’s not like we even give him the best chance to win anymore. Many teams can match that claim now.

    I also think they will stay far away from Sheets/Burnett. These are the types of FA signings that got us in trouble to begin with. I doubt they will make a panic move and sign these guys to compensate for the loss of CC. Cashman wants to stay away from giving these over 30 pitchers who are injury prone long term deals.

    It really isn’t as cut and dry as people want it to be. A lot will depend on CC. I do believe the Ynakees want him, but how much does he want us? Whatis our backup plan if he doesn’t come here? How much would be willing to give him? Alot of variables will go into these decisions.

  31. ANSKY

    Yanks are letting fans walk across the field from monument park into the stands several hours before the last game at the stadium.

    Hopefully the field doesn’t come out looking like Comiskey Park’s did after Disco Demolition night all those years ago.

  32. Nick in SF

    I predict that CC will NOT get a 10-year contract. So that much is correct. I’m so upset about Pepitone’s prediction, though, that I’m going to drive up to Lake Tahoe RIGHT NOW, so I’ll miss the game and all the accompanying fun. Go Yanks!

  33. AZ Four

    Give Sabathia the same tour of Jersey that the Jets gave Brett Favre, where he can hunt, fish, and live in a secluded, quaint area.

    That will change his mind.

  34. mel

    Ansky,

    I think they’re restricted to the warning track, it’ll probably be cordoned off. I would steal me a patch of grass and plant it at home. In the living room or on an old car. Have a “green car”. :)

  35. Tom

    I have always found it ironic how people trust the reports that “friends” of CC claim he wants to go out west. Meanwile most of these people bash Pete, Sweeny, et al for ridiculous reasons.

  36. TKinDC

    “The Yankees have won two straight and five of their last six”

    Didn’t someone accuse this team of ‘mailing it in’ for their high school football coach manager?!

    Seems like that was wrong.

  37. Wave Your Hat

    My guess is CC goes to the high bidder. That’s the way the world works. Given the question marks around Sheets, I hope the Yanks are the high bidder.

    If not, I guess we’ll have to like chasing Toronto.

  38. gayle

    I have really seen it all now. Next thing you know there will be shaman who say we need to make sure we chase away the evil spirits in the new place

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/09/19/2008-09-19_feng_shui_experts_optimistic_new_yankee_.html

  39. Dr. J

    Watch out for the Cubs or White Sox. CC listed Chicago as his favorite road city to play in. Those teams can both afford him and if they disappoint in the playoffs, they could break the bank for him.

    And like Heyman said, watch out for Anahiem. If they let KRod, Garland, Anderson, and Tex go, they might use that money and allot towards CC then trade some of their pitching inventory for offense. Moreno is growing money on trees, he can afford it and the Angels always make off-the-wall moves

    Basically what it comes down to is that we need to blow everyone out of the water with our offer. Because if it’s close, CC will probably take the discount. Make the decision hard for CC— give him a monster offer that no team comes reasonably close to.

  40. mel

    Tom,

    On the flip side, some of us are cheering for a CC acquisition only because he’s the best FA. Don’t want the bloated contract. Don’t want the tired arm like he had to start ‘08. We’re also smart enough to know he won’t be pitching to a sub 2.0 ERA in the AL, especially in the AL East.

    But it is what it is. And we have to just hope for the best.

  41. gayle

    for all those not going to Sunday’s game here is a listing care of biz of baseball on all the coverage on all the ESPN and MLB areas

    http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2478:turn-out-the-lights-yanklee-stadium-final-game-coverage-by-espn-a-mlbcom-to-cover-&catid=57:television&Itemid=122

  42. jennifer

    OMG I am going to run out of room on my dvr. I need to learn how to burn this onto a dvd.

  43. Weather Man

    What could a package of Rasner, Britton, Duncan, Christian, and Betemit get us?

    We need to clear some room on the 40 man and make a 5-1 trade like that.

  44. Tom

    Mel, Very true. CC’s the best out there and I know he wouldn’t pitch to a sub 2 era in the AL East and may be due for a stint on the DL. unfortunately, the Yankees have put themselves in a situation where signing cc to a bloated contract may be their only recourse, unless, they think Joba can hold up and be the ace.

    Thanks Mel, It’s nice to see a rational answer from somebody.

  45. Tom

    Just think, before 1962 this would have been the last game of the season.

  46. Pepitone

    “I’m so upset about Pepitone’s prediction”

    Uh, what, pray tell, is that prediction, Nick?

    I know as much about Sanathia’s plans than anyone else here, i.e., what I hear on radio, newspaper, and blogs. And they all say he doesn’t want to come to New York. So, either he’s lying, or his friends are lying, or the media is lying…who knows?

    I don’t honestly know what the guy wants, and I don’t care. I care about the Yankees not blowing the bank for another go around at an overblown free-agent signing. One other thing, he’s doing pretty well in the NL, you think he wants to come back to the AL and pitch to the DH rather than the pitcher? I think not.

    I also don’t care if he does come here, it won’t guarantee anything. The Yankee brass still has to do their homework, which is something they haven’t done too much of lately (e.g. their draft choices this year). Finding good players no one else is aware of takes hard work. The Scott Brosius’s of the league are out there, but you have to know what you’re looking for to get them.

    Free agent signings are the easy fix, but rarely pan out.

  47. GreenBeret7

    1961.

  48. Peter Abraham

    Why are people debating whether Sabathia wants to plays in NY?

    He will play for whatever team gives in the best deal, period. With what he’s going to get paid, he can find a nice place to live in NYC, trust me. And if he wants to go to California, he can hop in his private plane.

    Speculating on free agents based on geography is a waste of time. If all things are equal, he likely would want to stay in California. But all things are rarely equal.

  49. GreenBeret7

    Jesus…Still complaining about a draft pick and an international FA that backed out on verbal committments to sign? Who foresees that sort of thing? Nobody except for the ones on this board who think they are Ms Cleo.

  50. Tom

    GB, your right, as you usually are in matters concerning basball history. Thanks

  51. Wave Your Hat

    Pep, I don’t know if the Yanks can get CC and I don’t know how much they’ll need to overpay for him if they do get him, but I’m pretty sure we’ll be an also ran next year if we don’t.

    We only have two offensive positions which have no question marks attached to them, we are getting older and the Yanks haven’t had a great track record finding those offensive diamonds in the rough. Morgan Ensberg, anyone?

    CC is the best FA pitcher there is. Let’s start there.

  52. GreenBeret7

    Tom, I didn’t intend for that to be short and snappy. I was was going to be my longwinded know-it-all self and explain it all, but, hit the wrong buton.

  53. Pepitone

    “He will play for whatever team gives in the best deal, period.”

    Translation: He will play for whoever is willing to pay the kind of money he demands, i.e., whatever amount some chump is willing to pay.

  54. GreenBeret7

    ***and the wrong button, too***

  55. Wilson

    Exactly Pete

    I would love to see Sabathia walk away from $50 million and a couple of extra years just to pitch on the West Coast. Not happening.

    He will go for the money, so thats why we need to have the highest offer, by a considerable margin.

  56. West Coast Fan

    I see the Village Idiots from Tampa moving quickly on CC. Say within the first month of free agency. Lock him down fast and see what else you can do with the $$ left over in the FA kitty.

    Any other opinions?

  57. raymagnetic

    Pepitone,

    Why are you so sure that CC will not be worth it?

  58. Mark in Tampa

    Last year at this time all of the talking heads talked about it being a foregone conclusion that Arod was leaving the Yankees for the Cubs, Dodgers, or Angels. The the cold reality of $300M hit the ownership of those teams.

    So, all of the CC talk and where he wants to go means nothing until the basic parameters of the market are set. Then, many teams who would like to have him will be out, and what he wants will have to meet with who is offering what.

  59. GreenBeret7

    raymagnetic
    September 19th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
    Pepitone,

    Why are you so sure that CC will not be worth it?

    ___________________________________________

    CC told Pepitone that even if he took the biggest money, his heart wouldn’t be in it, so he asked for Pepitone’s advice.

  60. Pepitone

    Wave Your Hat -

    Very well said. I’m with you with everything except this, “I’m pretty sure we’ll be an also ran next year if we don’t.”

    Signing Sabathia is no guarantee we will not be also rans next season. They have a lot of holes to fill that will take time, smart planning, hard work, and firm direction. The past 4 to 6 years has seen them go for the easy fix, the “all-star at every position” rubbish. This is going to take time, and no free agent is going to be THE answer.

  61. West Coast Fan

    Mark in Tampa, if the Yanks made the playoffs this year, maybe that would be their play in FA. But they ain’t waiting for no one this winter. It’s hard ball time and they are spending the new found money that shiny new stadium is putting in the bank account. It’s no holds barred.

  62. Pepitone

    “CC told Pepitone that even if he took the biggest money, his heart wouldn’t be in it, so he asked for Pepitone’s advice.”

    And what are you? His mom?

  63. Tom

    When was the last time the Yankees were out-bid by anybody on the open market?
    Most players choose money over happiness.
    Or money=happiness

  64. Wave Your Hat

    Pep, I agree with your last post 100%. But I didn’t say CC would get us to the post-season, just that I don’t think we can get there without him.

  65. Wave Your Hat

    *** your second-to-last post ***

  66. Dan

    Kevin Millar will hit the last home run. He’s raked against the Yankees this year. Plus, it just seems like we’re due for one more kick in the groin this year, and that would do it.

    The only way A-Rod hits the last one – and you can bet he will be trying his hardest to do so on Sunday – is if he hits it on Saturday.

  67. Doreen

    Does anyone know the date when they’r actually planning to, um, put the old Stdium to rest?

  68. Devil's Advocate

    Anyone hear Harper on SNY?

    He said we deserve to miss the playoffs and have the stadium go out like this as karma for what we did to Torre.

  69. GreenBeret7

    Pepitone
    September 19th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
    “CC told Pepitone that even if he took the biggest money, his heart wouldn’t be in it, so he asked for Pepitone’s advice.”

    And what are you? His mom?

    ____________________________________________________

    Not hardly, but, I and most people on this board don’t spout off opinions as facts, either.

  70. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    Doreen-I guess they will start that process in March of next year?

    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/05/see-ya-demolishing-yankee-stadium-carefully/

  71. Mark in Tampa

    West Coast Fan,

    Just b/c the Yanks might want to move hard and fast, doesn’t mean that CC’s agent will jump at the first good offer. Not sure who his agent is, but many of them will string the market along with their top guys, and only move fast with the players that they know are not in big demand.

  72. Pepitone

    “But I didn’t say CC would get us to the post-season, just that I don’t think we can get there without him.”

    Fair enough.

  73. GreenBeret7

    Doreen
    September 19th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
    Does anyone know the date when they’r actually planning to, um, put the old Stdium to rest?

    _____________________________________________

    Doreen, I haven’t seen any takedown dates, but, certainly wouldn’t be before everything is up and running with the new infrastructure. It would be a Hell of a thing to tear it down, onlt to find out that the new park has plumbing, electrical and foundation issues.

  74. Pepitone

    “Not hardly, but, I and most people on this board don’t spout off opinions as facts, either.”

    And what “facts” do you possess about the subject? Are you one of his confidants, one of his buddies?

    You have no more authority on this than anyone else.

    By the way, what are you, my shadow? You enjoy smelling my ass? Go bother somebody else,

  75. Tom

    An overlooked factor this offseason may be the Cashman situation. I hope it gets resolved quickly. The longer it takes to have Cashman decide his fate, the less time the Yankees will have to decide what roster moves to make.

  76. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    okay my other post disappeared. :evil:

    Doreen-I believe they will start that process in March:

    This is from the NY Times on Sept 5th:

    New York City is looking for demolition companies that think they can tear down Yankee Stadium without damaging any of the seats or other pieces that might be sold to collectors.

    The razing of the famous ballpark is scheduled to start in March and last as long as a year, according to a solicitation form issued by the city’s Economic Development Corporation. The first stage of the demolition will involve salvaging all of the stadium seating as well as some large features like the white frieze that adorns the wall behind the bleachers and the 120-foot-tall bat-shaped boiler stack outside the main entrance.

  77. Devil's Advocate

    From the other thread, COL -

    The product on the field was inferior with 2 rookies in the rotation on innings limits, Mussina coming off a 5 ERA campaign and looking done, and Pettitte coming off a tumultuous winter with the steroid drama. We had one reliable starter going into the year, no veteran backups. We could have had Santana, but we decided to pass— a clear indication that this was a transition year and we were ok with no playoffs as long as we were better in 09 and beyond (though if we don’t get CC this year, then we will be even worse next year so that theory is debunked).

    We also had NO bullpen at all going into the year. Give Girardi all the credit in the world for squeezing what he did out of Farnsworth, Bruney, Veras, Giese, Ramirez etc. otherwise it would have been much worse.

    However, we overcame that. We squeezed more out of the likes of Ponson and Rasner than we could have ever expected. Joba blossomed into a star before he was injured. Mussina had one of the best years of his career. So in the end, you could say it all balanced out.

    If this team scored runs at the same pace we did last year, we would at least be playing for something now, instead of meandering through meaningless games like we have been for the past month. The star-studded lineup is the biggest culprit. They just got old, fast.

  78. GreenBeret7

    Pepitone
    September 19th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
    “Not hardly, but, I and most people on this board don’t spout off opinions as facts, either.”

    And what “facts” do you possess about the subject? Are you one of his confidants, one of his buddies?

    You have no more authority on this than anyone else.

    By the way, what are you, my shadow? You enjoy smelling my ass? Go bother somebody else,

    ______________________________________________

    LMAO at you. I’m not the one to make any claims about knowing what Sabathia or anyone else was going to do. I made no claims or predictions at all.

  79. Doreen

    GB7 -

    Could you imagine if they had to play at Shea or Citifield because it wasn’t ready and the old park was gone????? That would be tragicomedy at its best.

    Seriously, of course, you’re right. How could they set that date until the new place is completely ready-to-go.

  80. Tom

    Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. If these players had healthy typical seasons do you think the yankees would have made the playoffs?
    Wang
    Joba
    Posada
    Jeter
    Cano
    Matsui

  81. mark007

    the santana trade should have been made, but what’s done is done

    we must sign sabathia to rectify that now

  82. Doreen

    S.A. -

    Thank you for that information. So, it’s really going to be a long process.

    Wow – there’s lots of money going to be made selling off the pieces.

  83. West Coast Fan

    Mark in Tampa, I can see that possibly happening, but I think the owners will go balls out to nail him. Sort of like “an offer he can’t refuse” type of thing. I don’t think they have a choice. New stadium with very high ticket prices, coming off a year they didn’t make the playoffs, the fans are pissed (as you know from the posts here). The Yanks nned to dominate next year, and that starts with pitching (Wang, CC, Joba).

  84. GreenBeret7

    Doreen
    September 19th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
    GB7 -

    Could you imagine if they had to play at Shea or Citifield because it wasn’t ready and the old park was gone????? That would be tragicomedy at its best.

    Seriously, of course, you’re right. How could they set that date until the new place is completely ready-to-go.

    ________________________________________________

    A year or two at Shea would seriously do harm to my mental health. That place got Bobby Murcer traded.

  85. TurnTables

    Why has Girardi given nick names to everyone?

    Aceves – Fredo
    Rasner – Raz
    Edwar – Eddy
    Marte – Damo
    Ponson – Siddy
    Matsui – Matty
    Coke/Hughes – Philly
    Robertson – Robs
    Giese – Danny
    Giambi – G
    Gardner – Gardy

    etc.

  86. GreenBeret7

    Doreen
    September 19th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
    S.A. -

    Thank you for that information. So, it’s really going to be a long process.

    Wow – there’s lots of money going to be made selling off the pieces.

    ____________________________________________

    Can you imagine the going price of all of the left over jelly do-nuts from the writers cellblock?

    Who am I kidding? There’s no such thing as left over jelly do-nuts where cops and writers hang out.

  87. Pepitone

    “I’m not the one to make any claims about knowing what Sabathia or anyone else was going to do. I made no claims or predictions at all.”

    Why don’t you learn how to read, before you make a total jackass out of yourself. This is what I said,

    “I know as much about Sanathia’s plans than anyone else here, i.e., what I hear on radio, newspaper, and blogs. And they all say he doesn’t want to come to New York. So, either he’s lying, or his friends are lying, or the media is lying…who knows?”

    Show me a prediction there? I never made a “prediction,” I said, from what the scuttlebutt says, he didn’t want to play in New York. I could care less if he comes here, you’re the one who’s making the predictions that if he comes we’ll be contenders again.

    If the Yankees want to blow their money on another high priced free agent, fine. I disagreed with that strategy, and I gave my reasons above. But, hey, it ain’t my money.

  88. raymagnetic

    TurnTables or should I call you T.T., does it upset you that the manager has nicknames for the players?

  89. Doreen

    You know – I guess maybe I didn’t read things right all of last off season, but I could have sworn that the Yankees actually capitulated to the Twins and put their prize piece (Hughes) on the trade table. They kept him there long enough for the Twins to have said – Done! But, the Twins got greedy and the Twins didn’t do the Santana deal with the Yankees, not the other way around.

    Now, it would have been really nice had the Yankees gotten Santana. My feeling at the time was, I didn’t want Hughes to go, but sometimes you have to sacrifice for the immediate good. I was comfortable that the Yankees took the deal off the table, because I felt at the time the Twins were really being difficult to deal with. I think it is telling that the Red Sox didn’t do a deal, either, but because they are winning, no one cares. The Twins took an inferior (on paper, at least) deal from the Mets. Stop blaming the Yankees for not making the Santana deal. It was not meant to be. It is done, over, forget it. Move on.

  90. ZMAN7777

    “Listening to Andy on the FAN now is so sad. You can tell he is miserable and mad at himself for his performance this year.

    I hope we bring him back.”

    This is truly touching. Let’s just hope the Yankees make their decision with a bit more objectivity and far less sentimentality.

  91. Pepitone

    “Now, it would have been really nice had the Yankees gotten Santana. My feeling at the time was, I didn’t want Hughes to go, but sometimes you have to sacrifice for the immediate good. I was comfortable that the Yankees took the deal off the table, because I felt at the time the Twins were really being difficult to deal with. I think it is telling that the Red Sox didn’t do a deal, either, but because they are winning, no one cares. The Twins took an inferior (on paper, at least) deal from the Mets. Stop blaming the Yankees for not making the Santana deal. It was not meant to be. It is done, over, forget it. Move on.”

    Doreen, from all the posts I’ve read on this subject, yours is the best. Bravo!

  92. Doreen

    GB7 -

    The Yankees never looked like the Yankees playing at Shea. It was jarring to the psyche.

    We were having a house built when I was pregnant with my second daughter, and in spite of all the builders’ promises that the house would be ready long before my due date, what a surprise, it was not. At the time I was very, very cognizant of being fair to both sides of the family – I mean, how could I deny either side the absolute pleasure of having me, my husband and our almost 2 year old daughter living with them?????? But, anyway, we lived a month with my in-laws and almost 2 months with my parents while we waited for our house to be finished.

    When we moved away a few years ago, and then back again to New Jersey, again, we were waiting for a house to be ready, and we chose to live in a neutral, furnished apartment.

    Moral of the story – You CANNOT live in someone else’s house. Doesn’t work.

  93. R-Tek

    Pete’s love of Torre is nothing compared to the likes of Francessa, Sherman, Harper etc. It is sickening to listen to/read those guys. At least Pete does it just to tweak us.

  94. Doreen

    Thanks, Pepitone. It just gets tiring reading the same old stuff, with the same inaccurate accounting. :)

  95. CK in LA

    If signing a high profile pitcher to a long, fat contract is the cure all, then why don’t the Mets have the Angels’ record?

    Everyone is talking about CC like he is the messiah. Yes, he’s great. But one great pithcer didn’t help Cleveland and doesn’t seem to be helping the Brewers.

    Hopefully the decision makers are looking at the whole picture. A lot more needs to be done then signing one man.

    [bracing for the barrage]

  96. Jeff

    It is not uncommon for coaches to call players by nicknames in most sports. I played bball baseball and football in HS and football in college. Coaches were always using nicknames as far as i recall

  97. GreenBeret7

    Doreen, you’re right. When Smith kept shopping the deals around one, maybe twice was one thing, but for almost a week. He was trying to get NYY and Boston to outbid each other, and, when they refused to do that, he got stuck the a far less deal than the ones he turned down. It’s was a lot like the attempts to deal Schilling when ‘Zona dealt Schilling for a lesser deal out of spite. Littlefield of Pittsburgh was like that. A real punk type. Nobody would deal with him and that’s what will happen with Smith in Minnesota. It was good to see him taking a bath on the Garza/Young deal. Young has been nothing what they thought they were getting. No power, little run production and less than inspiring defense.

  98. mel

    I hate “Matty”. Torre started that one. It’s a girl’s name.

  99. E-Rod

    Because the Mets have 27 blown saves, 11 of them in the 9th inning.

    If the Mets had converted even half of them, they win the division and get homefield going away and be well on their way to 100+ wins.

    Make no mistake, Santana has helped the Mets tremendously and could have done the same for us. If the Mets had anything close to even an average bullpen, Santana wins 20 and the Mets are cruising to October.

  100. Tom

    CK. The mets and the brewers don’t have a bullpen. I think I heard on Mike and Mike this morning that the Brewers have lost 12 games they were leading in the 9th, while the Mets lost at least 8.

    Santana and CC are the reason the Mets and the Brewers are in the playoff picture this late in the season.

  101. mel

    K. Following the Ryder Cup via Sobel’s blog @ espn.com.

    The US has been behind the whole day, but you’ve got to read about Boo Weekley pumping up the crowd and getting icy looks from Westwood.

    I think we’re going to pull off some of the afternoon matches, but expect to hear a LOT of Ugly American comments by the Euro players and press.

    ———————————————-

    Pete,

    Thanks for the audio. Sunday’s pre-game’s going to be brutal.

  102. Forntoso

    I am much more comfortable with Garland and Derek Lowe than I am Sheets or even Burnett.

    You know what you get with the first 2— innings, guys who have won rings and pitched in big games, and guys who compete and can give you a chance to win. Also their contract demands will be far less than the other guys.

    CC is a must, but after that I would take a look at Lowe/Garland as the secondary piece.

  103. Pepitone

    “I hate “Matty”. Torre started that one. It’s a girl’s name.”

    Mel -

    I didn’t know that was the nickname for Matsui, too funny. I wonder how Matsui likes it?

    Don’t all baseball players give each other these cute little pet kiddie names? Coney (for David Cone), Gibbie (for Bob Gibson), Curtie (for Chad Curtis), and wasn’t Paul O’Neil called “Onie”?

    Where did that tradition come from? Maybe Pete ought to write a story about it. I would be interested in knowing.

  104. Quilvio Imposter

    E-Rod,

    Good post. People underestimate how much of an impact Santana has made, both in the clubhouse and on the mound for the Mutts. He hasn’t lost a game since June, and a decent bullpen gives him 20 wins easily and the CY Young.

    He is the reason that the club remains confident because when they need a big game, he pitches it. He is a stopper. The team rallies around him. I watched bits and pieces of the Mets postgame yesterday and you can tell how much Santana means to the players.

  105. GreenBeret7

    Doreen, I’ve never had that problem. I always had the government telling me where to live, but, what you described is correct. ‘74-’75 was the second time that the Yanks had to share a ball park. The Yanks shared the Polo Grounds in the 20’s before Babe Ruth came to town. The Yanks outdrew the Giants and they and McGraw was so jealous that they refused to renew the rental lease. That was the reason Yankee Stadium was built. Ruppert wanted a palace to rub in their faces. He had it built in the Bronx so when the Giants owner looked out his window, that was the first thing he saw…Yankee Stadium. The Polo Grounds were nearly 40 years old at that time.

  106. Sea Net

    This Sunday is going to be very special. I only wish it could end on a much better note.

  107. bru

    SJ44 :

    what happens if we don’t sign sabathia? there is not much else out there.50-85 percent of the yankees young pitchers will not make it or be good enough,maybe more and you suggest we keep them all?

    that would be the worst mistake the yankees can make.

    if they can use cano with another prospect or two to get a volquez,billingsley,sherzer type pitcher to replace hughes then they should trade hughes for a center fielder and or first baseman.right now all three above are much better than hughes and as good prospect wise.

    sabathia would be an excellant start.i would see if the dodgers will take cano,kennedy,melky/gardner for billingsley,if not give up some better prospects,then trade hughes for a good young center fielder/first baseman.if they don’t sign tex they can package prospects for a center fielder/first baseman depending on what hughes lands them.

    free agency alone can do it if the right players are signed and maybe a lot of the kids work out but the yankees need to completely rebuild except arod,jeter,mo,posada,joba,wang and expecting the kids or free agency alone is a big risk.

    the yankees are in a good position to turn this around quickly and as long as they get a center fielder,first baseman,pitcher in addition to signing a fa pitcheor two they should do it.they made a huge mistake trading tabata,olendorf,karsens and the others when they could of been used to bring in the right players.they also hung on to kennedy too long.a package of tabata,kennedy,olendorf would of landed the yankees a lot.

  108. Pepitone

    Follow up on the nickname theme -

    Can you imagine football players doing that?

    Brett Favre is “Bretty.” Brian Urlacher is “Brianie.” LaDanian Tomlinson is “LaDanie.”

    or the NBA,

    LaBron James is “Jamsie”??????

  109. TKinDC

    “The US has been behind the whole day, but you’ve got to read about Boo Weekley pumping up the crowd and getting icy looks from Westwood.”

    Mel – we won the morning session 3 to 1. Boo didn’t even play in the morning.

    Westwood on the Euro squad stared down Boo as he pumped up the Kentucky crowd – and then quickly lost a 2 hole lead in the match (4 ball).

  110. hank hal

    As Mike Francessa said….

    It is going to be painful to watch Torre, Manny, and the Dodgers come back to New York to play Santana and the Mets.

    God that is going to be an insufferable week in NY if that series happens. The good part is that it will tick off the Mets fan to no end because this was their chance to have the spotlight to themselves with the Yankees out… but with all the attention will be on Torre, the ex-Yankee manager and the Yankees disappointing season without him at the helm. And the only Mets talk will be about Santana and what could have been- for the Yankees.

    You know the media is salivating at this NYM-LAD matchup and will make it as Yankee-centric as possible.

  111. steve

    lol wow What has Girardi started? trying to make all the players feminine

  112. GreenBeret7

    The Mets need to make the playoffs before worrying about playoff headlines.

  113. steve

    if it came down to it, i’d root for the mets over the dodgers. either of them winning would make the yankees look bad, but id rather the mets win. the torre love fest is just getting too much.

  114. Yankeefanfoev13

    Question for anyone out there.
    I am doing a project for a Business Communications class in college on the purpose of the front office in baseball, however, I’m trying to find some credible information on that subject, if any of you guys know any links I could find, I would great appreciate it!

    GO YANKEES!

  115. jax gmen

    the brewers are dead, mets will make it by default

  116. Tom

    Speaking of Yankee Pitching prospects, what’s the word on Andrew Brackman?

  117. Tom

    oh yeah….I HATE GEORGEY. it’s not even Jorge’s name.

  118. mel

    TK,

    Meant the afternoon. But we were down in the morning, too, and stormed back.

    It’s funny cuz the crowd is yelling, “Boo” at the American.

  119. Wilson

    If Sabathia doesn’t sign here, we have no choice but to trade some of our valued commodities (Hughes, Cano etc.) for pitching.

    Who else is going to take the ball next year? There is no way Hal is going into the new stadium with the same patchwork rotation that we went into 2008 with.

  120. tom

    whats wrong with this rotation?

    wang
    sheets
    joba
    hughes
    mussina

    ???

  121. Jorge Tabata

    Well tom, aside from the fact that Hughes is on an innings limit and has proven nothing to warrant the hype, Joba is on an innings limit and has injury concerns lingering until he shows he can throw 200 innings, and Sheets only makes 15-20 starts a year and is from the NL…. nothing. That rotation is fine.

  122. Tom

    Yankeefanfoev13, what do you mean the by the “purpose of the front office in baseball”?

  123. mel

    tom,

    Sheets is wrong! The man feels a “cutting” sensation in his elbow.

  124. Doreen

    GB7 -

    I had heard all that about the Yankees/Giants/Polo Grounds stuff. Must have been fun at the time, huh?

  125. RS

    i have a question about stub hub and sunday’s game…if you buy tickets using stub hub’s last minute services, what time are the tickets available to pick up? it says they are available 2 hours prior to the event, but the stadium is opening at 1 pm that day.

    so will the tickets be available around 1, or not until 6 pm (which is technically 2 hours before game time)? if anyone knows this, that would be greatly appreciated.

  126. Yankeefanfoev13

    Tom,

    That was too vague, sorry about that.
    I wanted to focus to an actual part of the baseball front office, the marketing aspect of it. I know that Deborah A. Tymon for instance is in charge of this aspect for the Yankees; I just wanted to find some type of information on what the Senior VP of Marketing would do for a baseball organization.

  127. Jordan

    Pete, don’t know if you know this, but I have a cool story.

    I live in New Jersey, and am a member at a great golf club called Manhattan Woods (in West Nyack, NY). Today, I was out golfing, and it was a big celebrity day. Jason Kidd was playing. Ahmad Rashad was playing with Bill Murray.
    And then, overshadowing all of them, the group right in front of me, is Michael Jordan, and none other than Alex Rodriguez.
    Didn’t really know what to think. I guess he can do whatever he wants with his days, especially considering the season is as good as over, but it was just really cool to see an active athlete during his sports season, out doing something else.

  128. Incognito

    Hey everybody, be sure to thank the Federal Government for bailing out all these Wall Street a-holes just in time for the Yankee Stadium Luxury suites to go on sale. I don’t know about you, but knowing there will be fine wine, sushi, and caviar sure takes the hurt off of knowing several million people lost their homes. What a world we live in.

  129. 2008 Playoffs for the Yankees....NOT DEAD YET

    don’t look now, but Boston is prime to be swept by the Blue Jays….WHEN that happens and The Yankees take care of biz this weekend versus the O’s….there could be at least one more post-season series to bless the Stadium, yet….( stranger things have I seen, ALL ! )

  130. Tom

    Yankeefanfoev13, No problem. I have to deal with reading and grading 150 freshman comp papers right now. I’m a little on edge. Thanks.
    Here’s an article from 2003.
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/john_donovan/news/2003/05/22/donovan_marketing/

  131. TKinDC

    mel –

    right – funny that boo is a country boy playing in Kentucky. They love him in the gallery. (I would guess the avg net worth of the gallery is north of $1M btw) :)

  132. mel

    TK,

    Hey! Even bluebloods get ripped if they drink mint juleps all day on the course.

  133. Jeff NJ

    Well I didn’t get a chance to post it last time, but tomorrow I am going to the game and I am bringing my 3.5 month old son. To be honest we took him to a game a few weeks ago, that game was for him, tomorrow’s game is for me.

    To me, Yankee Stadium is like my Disney World. A Utopia where it is always summer and relaxing. When I go there I can’t help but smile (internally) and I feel forever young. While I think the Yankees definitely need a new stadium, it will be difficult to replace my Utopia. I just hope that my youth doesn’t die that day too.

    Anyway, let’s go Yankees! Finish Strong and give the league something to think about for next year.

  134. Doreen

    I love that not only did Mike Mussina choose the most original thing to take from the stadium, but already has the logistics figured out. :)

  135. Jordan

    Question: Which scenario would you rather?

    1. Yanks split their remaining games, including beating the Red Sox in the final series, but the Sox win 7 of their last 10 and easily take the Wild Card.
    2. Yanks go on a tear to finish the season, winning every game leading up to the final game of the year, and the Red Sox go ice cold, losing every game except 2 for the rest of the year. And then Yanks, who could tie up the division with one win in the final game, get killed by a 2 homer game from the devil incarnate himself, Kevin youkkkkkilis.
    3. Yanks win every game except one, Sox lose every game, so Yanks finish ahead of sox…. but Blue Jays also win every game, and beat the Yanks by 1.

    Which would you prefer? Which would be worse?
    Clearly option 1 is whats going to happen- but would you prefer a chase to the end, and then a devastating, abrupt end to finally shatter hope?

  136. Yankeefanfoev13

    Tom,

    I can understand you being on an edge lol
    Thanks a bunch.

  137. For $13 I'll be a Macadamia Nut

    Incognito, the problems with the banks are the results of the media driven frenzy over the redlining issue. When the banks were pretty much forced to make bad loans because they couldn’t look like they were treating anyone “unfairly”, they were left with a lot of money out on loans they weren’t going to collect on. Add to that poor management, not government regulations, and the banks were doomed.

    The bail out isn’t good, but I don’t think it wise to have the whole financial system fall apart either.

  138. ray (sox fan)

    2008 Playoffs for the Yankees….NOT DEAD YET
    September 19th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
    “don’t look now, but Boston is prime to be swept by the Blue Jays….WHEN that happens and The Yankees take care of biz this weekend versus the O’s….there could be at least one more post-season series to bless the Stadium, yet….( stranger things have I seen, ALL ! )”

    Don’t bet your life savings on it my good friend Vito!

    On a different note, NESN is reporting that Bartolo Colon has decided to stay in the Dominican Republic. Looks like no more Bartolo this year!

  139. mel

    That does it for me. Now he’s a true Yankee. ;)

  140. Peter Abraham

    Jordan:

    Was it a charity event? It seems a little strange because Alex doesn’t play golf.

  141. Jorge Tabata

    I would rather go on a run and get beat by a 2 run HR by Youkallis.

  142. zellyanks91

    This won’t be a pretty game..two pitchers will 5.00+ ERA’s. Looks like both offenses will have a good night. Maybe the Yankees can show the crowd a few wins before the stadium is gone for good. Go Yankees!

    Kevin

  143. mel

    Pete,

    Don’t get mad just because you don’t know every detail about Alex’s life. :)

    j/k. My first thought was Alex would be in the cages rather than on the course.

  144. Doreen

    Pete -

    That’s great for the Yankees, but I’ll bet Michelle is a little conflicted about it. :(

  145. Incognito

    ‘banks were pretty much forced to make bad loans because they couldn’t look like they were treating anyone “unfairly”’ I don’t know where to begin.

    “banks” are never forced to loan money, but “banks” are not the problem here anyway. It’s investment banks that invested in bad loans, and encouraged bad loans with lots of money because they thought they were essentially investing in real estate which up until last year was thought to be a fool-proof investment. It was totally reckless, totally unregulated and absolutely their own fault that they find themselves in crisis. If these were “banks” as we know them in trouble, they’d have been put out of business by the Fed a long time ago.

    Today the SEC band short sellers to make it impossible for the market not to surge and everybody is jumping for joy. Problem is that they just eliminated the only thing that keeps Wall Street honest and created a “short-seller bubble” that will surely burst as soon as they lift the ban.

    Point is, there will still be caviar at Yankees Games next year. Some people may not have a house, but they can sleep well knowing Wall Street is having fun at the New Yankee Stadium.

  146. COL 88

    I will shed a tear when Andrew Brackman throws his first pitch in Hawaii.

  147. mel

    Johnny hopping on a plane is no big deal. Father’s only need to be present twice. The rest is gravy. :)

  148. ant!-mussina

    pavano sucks

  149. cano's dad

    rob cano will finish strong

  150. Doreen

    mel -

    I respectfully disagree with that. Not that I don’t understand and appreciate that Damon has an obligation to the Yankees that pays the bills. Just saying, if I’m his wife, I wish he’d take the one extra day. Although, it is so close to the end of the season, and he’ll be home for good (the winter) soon.

  151. pat

    mlb.com said Michelle Damon had the baby in NY.

  152. Jordan

    There was no charity event. I guess MJ just invited him out to play so he sucked it up and made a fool out of himself.

  153. Doreen

    pat -

    Well, that would make the circumstances very different, wouldn’t it?

  154. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    c’mon carlito

  155. pat

    Doreen

    Very different unless Bryan Hoch at mlb.com got it wrong.

    “Johnny Damon was granted permission to leave the Yankees on Thursday, as he and his wife, Michelle, welcomed a new baby girl to their family.
    Michelle Damon gave birth to a healthy baby girl, Danica, in New York. The newborn weighed in at six pounds and eight ounces.”

  156. Arenoso

    Nice start by the Rajah

  157. Rishi

    Can he just get the freaking three outs…just one good game from him PLEASE!

  158. Doreen

    Pavano doesn’t look too good. Good throw by Gardner and tag by Pudge. Still, it stinks to already be one run down.

  159. ZMAN7777

    I know he’s a gritty, gutty, durable competitor and all, but does Pavano really give us the best chance to win?

  160. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    Nick Markakis-he’s very nice to look at. :D

    1 more out Carl

  161. sunny615

    jeezus I can’t believe I’m going to say this – but IPK wasn’t available to start today?

  162. Girardi, time to say bye bye.

    Comon Pavano, that was scary! You should take yourself out and spare us fans from having to watch you pitch.

  163. gayle

    does moose get the bat on top of flag pole?

    Also Damon had baby in NYC according to everything I have read so no plane involved although I still really like him

  164. stuart

    Damon is one of the clutch players on the team..

  165. ZMAN7777

    Next year, Pavano, Rasner, and Ponson should not even be allowed to purchase a ticket to watch a game. Wonder if anyone will be foolish enough to take a flier on Pavano? Maybe some team will sign him to a minor league deal.

  166. ZMAN7777

    However, I agree: NO IPK. Not ever!

  167. Doreen

    gayle -

    I still like him, too.

    I’m just having flashback to when my first daughter was born and my husband had to attend his grandmother’s funeral 2 days later – an overnight. I missed him even though I had my mom and was doing fine.

  168. ZMAN7777

    Attention Yankee batters: Liz has walked 45 in 73 innings. How about some plate patience??

  169. kd

    nice to see jeter take a pitch

  170. gayle

    I call bogus on the alex golf story as Jordan is at the Ryder cup have seem him on tv and alex was in midtown today I
    As you can see on tmz

  171. Girardi, time to say bye bye.

    “next year carl will win the cy young”

    Not even in the indy leagues.

  172. jennifer- I got your back Girardi

    Pavano stinks. Can’t wait till he is gone.

  173. Doreen

    Is there anyone warming up yet?????

  174. ZMAN7777

    Hard to believe the caliber of starting pitching we’ve been subjected to this year. Truly nauseating.

  175. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    jeez

  176. Rishi

    why does Pavano suck so much?

  177. Only umps on the take hate instant replay.

    I don’t know what part of “Carl Pavano Sucks” is hard for the Yankees to understand.

  178. mel

    The crowd’s going to get very ugly, very soon.

  179. sunny615

    IPK is probably better than this.

  180. the dirtman

    http://www.complex.com/blogs/2008/09/19/remembering-yankee-stadiums-funniest-moments/

    funniest moments at yankee stadium

  181. kd

    any bets on where pavano ends up next year? my guees is a one year deal for the marlins, at league minimum.

  182. mel

    Ooohhh…Sac flies are so cool…

  183. Rishi

    I just came from a 1.5-hour super PT session for my shoulder and I’d do a better job out there

  184. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    Maybe they should just grab a fan from the stands and have him or her pitch? How bad could that be? :P

  185. Rishi

    2 lead off doubles (essentially with the stolen base) and 2 runs

  186. ZMAN7777

    Carl, thanks for the rehab. You’re now even worse than before. You should be exiled to Borneo where even the hungry jungle natives would reject eating you.

  187. jennifer- I got your back Girardi

    Looks like Jordan was busted.

  188. ZMAN7777

    Whatever happens tonight, Girardi needs to ensure that Pavano is removed in the middle of an inning, not after one.

  189. CaptainsCorner

    Ok time to take this waste of space out of the rotation. He has had nothing his last couple of starts and even worse he stole $45m from the Yanks and they are allowing him to show case himself for next season.

  190. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    A hit would be nice

  191. ZMAN7777

    Captain — “Showcasing” is far too kind a word.

    Atta boy, team, keep swinging at the first pitch!!

  192. jennifer- I got your back Girardi

    Anyone going to the game tomorrow.

  193. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    There we go

  194. pat

    and there we went.

  195. Rishi

    X WITH A DP / is that even allowed???

  196. no.27

    PLAYOFF SCENARIO:

    Yankees all their games leading up to the series at Fenway.

    Burnett and Halladay of the Blue Jays, and Lee and Carmona of the Indians get wins against the Red Sox Sowers, Jackson, and Richmond would need just 1 win between the 3 of them for the last 3 games to be meaningful!

    How’s that for optimism??

  197. Rishi

    *frustrating

  198. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    there goes that.

  199. ZMAN7777

    No. 27: I’d be happy with 2 out of 3 this weekend, right now.

  200. Girardi, time to say bye bye.

    It’s not like Liz has control problems or anything. This is exactly why we aren’t playing october baseball this season, a mediocre pitcher comes to our house and completely dominates us. It’s almost like our guys don’t have a scouting report.. could Liz be the new Daniel Cabrera?

  201. Rishi

    I’m not asking for a 1-2-3 inning, I’m asking for a scoreless one

  202. ZMAN7777

    “a mediocre pitcher comes to our house and completely dominates us”

    Correction here: Liz is many lengths below mediocre

  203. Girardi, time to say bye bye.

    ZMAN7777,

    You wouldn’t know that by watching him face the Yankees.

  204. gayle

    Jennifer I am going tomorrow and SUnday

  205. ZMAN7777

    True, and if we’re all honest, we’d gladly trade Pavano, Rasner, and Pavano for Liz’ kid brother.

  206. Rishi

    WOW – did I just get both??

  207. ZMAN7777

    Oops, meant Pavano, Rasner and Ponson

  208. RalphieD

    “This is exactly why we aren’t playing october baseball this season, a mediocre pitcher comes to our house and completely dominates us. It’s almost like our guys don’t have a scouting report.. could Liz be the new Daniel Cabrera?”

    hes pitched 2 innings…2…thats 1+1….why dont we see how the game goes..we hit Liz hard last time we faced him….and btw Cabrera has a 5.04 era against the yankees in his career and a 5.32 this year..

  209. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    Robbie!

  210. RalphieD

    robbie is liking his new stance

  211. Ed - strange things happens in baseball

    Cano – don’t you know?

  212. mel

    Wow. The new approach is really paying off for Cano.

  213. Wangawa

    Maybe Cano should have changed his batting stance after the first week of the season?

  214. Ed - strange things happens in baseball

    Brett, BUNTTTTTT!!!!

  215. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    Pudge got a hit. :shock:

  216. pat

    Maybe Kevin Long should change everyones stance.

  217. USA = Third World Country once again

    Come on Yanks, win one for me.

  218. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: An Interview With Chad Jennings)

    I have 2 tickets for tomorrow’s game, if anyone is interested.

    Tier Box MVP behind home plate. 7 rows from the railing. I would like to just get something for the tickets.

    I can e-mail the tickets to you.

    Thanks.

  219. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    hold onto that bat Brett

  220. Rishi

    CB – are you kidding me…what’s the cost?

  221. RalphieD

    nice hitting by gardner

  222. Ed - strange things happens in baseball

    Brett “the flash” Gardner!!!!

    we need a big inning here right now!!!!

  223. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    Nice job Brett! Tied game.

  224. Ed - strange things happens in baseball

    CB, what’s your price?

  225. mel

    Nice, nice, nice!

  226. mel

    Sounds like Gardner has a higher RISP avg. than a lot of the clutch guys. :)

  227. melissa(i still love cano)

    I was wondering have the yankees done any rookie hazing this year? If so, pics please!!!

  228. pat

    They had tickets for tonights game at the Stadium box office this morning.

  229. Jeff NJ

    rookie hazing happens when they make their last road trip, in this case after Sunday night. With the stadium closing, it will be interesting to see if they still do it.

  230. Rishi

    can someone explain to me why Brett “Fast as Lightening” Gardner was not running on a single pitch (to steal) in the last 2 abs??

  231. Ed - strange things happens in baseball

    at least everyone is working the count for A-Rod…

    c’mon A-Rod….

  232. Ed - strange things happens in baseball

    can someone explain to me why Brett “Fast as Lightening” Gardner was not running on a single pitch (to steal) in the last 2 abs??

    i was wondering the same thing.

  233. Peter Abraham

    Dear: “USA = Third World Country once again”

    Please refrain from such political statements on this blog. This is a baseball blog. Change your handle if you would.

    Thanks.

  234. Mark (Brett is back)

    GARDNER ARE YOU KIDDING ME???????/

  235. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    !!! HE CAUGHT THAT!!

  236. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    Wow. Nice catch Brett!

  237. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: An Interview With Chad Jennings)

    Rishi and Ed,

    The face value is $60 per ticket. I’d love to get the face value, but would take much less. I just don’t want them to go to waste.

  238. RalphieD

    gardner is a defensive freak

  239. DYNASTY IS DESTINY!

    Gardner is not afraid of the wall!

  240. mel

    Wow. What a play by Gardy. He look a little shook up.

  241. Rishi

    CB – Let’s have a conversation…my sister really wants to go: we’re 10-0 in games we’ve been to this year

  242. Ed - strange things happens in baseball

    wow, Brett is craZy…i seriously though he missed.

  243. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Clay: When is this?

  244. Ed - strange things happens in baseball

    CB – let’s talk on the email…what’s your email?

  245. gayle

    If Gardner could hit and get on base better geez he would be great. The havoc he creates both on the base paths and in the field is really really good.

    Maybe Long could work with him this winter as well.

  246. Terry #1

    Gardner Evaluation:

    He’s a keeper.

  247. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: An Interview With Chad Jennings)

    Rishi,

    What’s your e-mail address?

  248. Rishi

    nyceastwest@gmail.com

  249. mel

    gayle,

    I think the team can afford to develop one player next season. I vote Gardner.

  250. jessidog

    Gayle – you have a great point about Gardner.
    This is a question for some who have more knowledge than me – what sort of teaching happens in the minors. Would it not be obvious that a player like Gardner is not going to be a power hitter – so why do we keep hearing Kevin Long is working with him now – why don’t they teach him how to change his swing to adapt to the majors while he is in the minors?

  251. Vince

    Jon Garland anybody ??

    Jon Garland rhp
    3 years/$29M (2006-08)

    acquired in trade (from Chicago White Sox) 11/19/07 (as part of deal, Angels paid White Sox $1.5M)

    signed extension 12/05
    06:$7M, 07:$10M, 08:$12M

    1 year/$3.4M (2005), avoided arbitration 11/04
    1 year/$2.3M (2004), avoided arbitration 11/03
    1 year/$0.375M (2003), re-signed 3/03
    1 year/$0.275M (2002), signed 3/02
    drafted 1997, $1.325M signing bonus
    agent: Craig Landis

    ML service: 7.071

  252. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    jessidog: it’s simple–it’s a different level of pitching in the minors.

  253. jennifer- I got your back Girardi

    I have a question for everyone.

    If money was no object and you could buy anything in the stadium what would you buy?

    I’d buy the sign leading to the dugout.

  254. Ed - strange things happens in baseball

    actually, I wouldn’t mind signing Garland next season. Garland could be good.

  255. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    jennifer: The DiMaggio sign.

  256. jessidog

    Rebecca – true – but it is hard to understand that other than tweaking stances etc and getting out of bad habits that that level of learning is necessary at the ML level. Too bad the season is over- seems like he might be turning a corner.

  257. mel

    lol @ Pete’s 8:20 comment. Nice of Jete & Carl to show their appreciation to Gardner.

  258. jennifer- I got your back Girardi

    YEP!

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2329/2265281611_281cb1ac99.jpg

  259. Mark (Brett is back)

    Jennifer- The bullpen phone so I could hang it on my wall haha.

  260. sunny615

    jeezus – two on no out and no runs… typical 2008 Yankees inning. :-(

  261. jennifer- I got your back Girardi

    Thats a cool idea.

  262. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    If money was no object and you could buy anything in the stadium what would you buy?

    the facades.

  263. GreenBeret7

    Yeah, Sunny…those bums hit two rockets at Huff on first base. Get rid of them.

  264. Neutral fan

    I hope someone can answer this for me.

    How many double plays have the Yankees hit into this season and where do the Yankees rank as compare to other teams?

  265. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: An Interview With Chad Jennings)

    Rebecca,

    It’s for tomorrow’s game. I had Sunday’s too, but I just gave them to somebody.

  266. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Clay: Would have killed for Sunday’s.

    Got too much work for tomorrow though.

  267. jessidog

    Jennifer – I would want the WB Mason sign (only kidding)
    I was thinking either the RF or LF padded part of the outfield wall that has the distance…not sure where I would put it.

  268. Allison

    Greetings from the bleachers! We didn’t think Gardner had that ball, but we were glad he did!

  269. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: An Interview With Chad Jennings)

    Rebecca,

    I know someone who is selling Sunday. He has tickets in the upper deck near the RF foul pole. I think he wants $100 per ticket, though.

  270. Yankee Trader

    Jon Garland WHIP>1.40 Lefties batting about .300. Not a strikeout pitcher and probably wants 4-5 years. No I’m not excited about Garland.

    We do need to sign 2 FA starters. Now that Shaun Marcum is lost for 2009 Toronto will try to extend Burnett, but he would be the one I’d go for 1st, while having discussions with CC’s agent. Signing Burnett would show others that the Yankees are making every attempt to be in the race next year. If they get Burnett, can’t get CC, the next player would be Dempster, but he’ll probably resign with Cubs.

    Not crazy about Derek Lowe, Lackey would be great, but option sure to be picked up. Penny might be available, and if healthy might be worth looking into.

  271. Jimmy K.

    Nice job so far Pav.

  272. Tom

    Wasn’t it Gardner’s M.O. in the minors to struggle initially at the plate, then make adjustments.

  273. jennifer- I got your back Girardi

    We have another replay. TB game.

  274. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Clay: I can part with $100.

  275. mel

    There must be a brawl in Tampa. They’re showing a delay.

    Boston went up, but Toronto has men on base.

    Philly up and Atlanta threatening.

    Let’s go, Yanks.

  276. mel

    Nice. Toronto run and Damon single were simultaneous. Butterfly effect?

  277. jennifer- I got your back Girardi

    mel nope replay. called a homerun. I am waiting for the video to show up.

  278. Jimmy K.

    Neutral fan
    September 19th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
    I hope someone can answer this for me.

    How many double plays have the Yankees hit into this season and where do the Yankees rank as compare to other teams?

    >> good question. i wish I know. Help us out here, Pete!

  279. Tom

    Oh and I’d want the old Marlboro sign from the 70s

  280. mel

    jennifer,

    thanks. now we have replay delays. haha.

  281. Rishi

    Can Abreu do something good here?

  282. ARX

    How about a 2 rbi double here arod? please?

  283. Yankee Trader

    “If money was no object and you could buy anything in the stadium what would you buy?”

    I’d buy the entire stadium, then Cooperstown and use part of the Stadium as the new museum.
    Then I’d buy our AAA team and move them to Old Yankee Stadium-if money were no object.

  284. Only umps on the take hate instant replay.

    Passed ball? We’ll take it.

  285. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    thank god for that wild pitch…

  286. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: An Interview With Chad Jennings)

    Rebecca,

    Would you go with someone? I’m sure he wants to sell both tickets.

  287. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    jimmy K: You can actually look it up on ESPN MLB stats or baseball reference.

    The Yankees were number two I think when I checked, but that was back in July.

  288. Terry #1

    I was actually HOPING for a WP…now the pressure is off A-rod a bit.

  289. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    hmm A-Rod, that was ball 3.

  290. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    Well, we got a run! :)

  291. mel

    That works. :)

    Good things happen when guys reach 3rd.

  292. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Clay: I would try to find someone, certainly.

  293. jennifer- I got your back Girardi

    yankee trader. Okay be realistic. I didn’t mean that much of money being no object.

    Cause like the Joe D sign. If they were selling it and a player wasn’t buying it. It would probably be a few grand. I can’t afford that.

  294. Mark (Brett is back)

    I’m sorry, but I am happy to see the Brewers collapse. No need for CC to throw more innings in the playoffs. Even if that means seeing the Mets make the playoffs which is looking better and better with this Brewers collapse.

  295. ARX

    Well…part of me would give anything to see the chaos in Metsland if they collapsed a 2nd year in a row and missed the postseason again ;)

  296. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: An Interview With Chad Jennings)

    Rebecca,

    I can call him and touch base with you mid-morning.

  297. Jimmy K.

    Thanks Rebecca,
    I guess we’re all just too lazy to look it up. :lol:

  298. RalphieD

    lets go coke!

  299. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    I love me some Coke

  300. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Clay: All right. If he knows someone that already has a companion or is giving a better offer, I can pass.

    Ooh, Coke!

  301. sunny615

    GreenBeret7
    September 19th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
    Yeah, Sunny…those bums hit two rockets at Huff on first base. Get rid of them.
    —————-
    First off – someone’s grumpy today. I didn’t say they were bums.
    Rockets at someone are still “at someone” so an out is an out – doesn’t matter if it’s a bunt or a rocket.

  302. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (My Latest Blog Entry: An Interview With Chad Jennings)

    Rebecca,

    Ok. I’ll shoot you an e-mail tomorrow (mid-morning) either way.

  303. Abraham

    I never got to visit monument field. I didn’t know you could walk down there before the game. I thought you needed tickets for that.

  304. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Sounds good!

  305. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    wow, Giambi….

  306. top of the order

    Giambi sucks

  307. sunny615

    ah giambi… can’t wait til yer gone.

  308. Fredo Corleone

    RE: GDIP’s

    Yankees had 141 coming into tonite. That trailed only the Blue Jays 143 and the White Sox 144. Playoff contenders? Boston 138. Angels 134. Tampa 102.

  309. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    BRING BACK BRIAN!

    :)

    I don’t know if it’s my allergies or watching Pavano pitch, which is like watching paint dry, but I fell asleep sometime in the first or second inning.

  310. dman

    bruney just threw a 90 mph slider, thats filthy, and hes only 27

  311. GreenBeret7

    sunny615
    September 19th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
    GreenBeret7
    September 19th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
    Yeah, Sunny…those bums hit two rockets at Huff on first base. Get rid of them.
    —————-
    First off – someone’s grumpy today. I didn’t say they were bums.
    Rockets at someone are still “at someone” so an out is an out – doesn’t matter if it’s a bunt or a rocket.

    ____________________________________________

    Not grumpy at all. I have decided to change your name from “Sunny” to “Black Cloud” though. It suits your posts much better.

  312. Terry #1

    Is everybody getting the same blackout I am?

  313. sunny615

    suits the yankee 08 season better. :-(

  314. Art Vandelay

    Why does this have to be the last series at the Stadium? Why can’t it be game 7 of the World Series? Sometimes life isn’t fair.

  315. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Abraham, you do need tickets to do that, but only tickets that get you into the game.

  316. Fredo Corleone

    How many kinds of black outs are there?

  317. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Terry, what blackout?

  318. YankeeVIP

    first.. you cannot count on Gardner next year as a starter on the hope he can hit at this level… absolutely not!!!

    start damon in CF, and let brett be the 4th outfielder. (nady in left, abreu in right.. you have to bring abreu back.. he has been consistent all year)

    lastly.. we are going to end up winning 86-87 games this year.. imagine, between a healthy wang, hughes, joba, posada and matsui.. we could have scaped up an extra 10 wins along the way.. 10 wins.. thats all!!!! and the division would have been ours.. its been a bad bad year, but ill chalk 10 games up to injuries.

  319. Fredo Corleone

    BTW, if the Yankees do indeed sign Burnett and Sabathia, they will have signed the pitchers who rank #1 and #2 in pitches thrown in 2008.

  320. Vince

    If the Manufacturers Hanover sign is stored somewhere in the Stadium, I want it.
    Memories of ‘76 when Chris Chambliss hit his pennant clincher.

  321. Yankee Trader

    I want us to get younger more athletic players, and originally thought we should let Abreu go, but looking at his stats compared to last year his OBP is actually better, though his walks are down, his slugging % is up as is his fielding %, and his BA is the best it’s been since 2004. He’ll be offered arbitration, and if no one else becomes available to play CF, I wouldn’t be too opposed to a 2 year deal with a club option for a 3rd, as both Nady and Damon will be FA’s at end of 2009 season.

  322. Mark (Brett is back)

    You know looking back at all of the injuries: Wang, Joba, Jorge etc, and the one that I never really thought about is the injury of Bruney. The guy like Pete said in his recent update has been lights out. I am looking forward to seeing him back in the pen next season.

  323. Fredo Corleone

    YT:

    Abreu may well have hit his way into three guaranteed years, maybe more. His will be an intersting case this offseason.

  324. gayle

    What is Bruney’s status with the Yanks next year is he a free agent or arbitration eligible see below.

    Brian Bruney rhp
    1 year/$0.725M (2008)

    re-signed 2/5/08 (avoided arbitration, $0.845M-$0.64M)

    1 year/$395,545M (2007), re-signed 2/07
    1 year (2006), contract purchased 8/06
    signed as a free agent 7/06 (minor-league contract)
    DFA (by Arizona) 5/06
    1 year/$0.325M (2005)

    drafted 2000 (12-369)

    ML service: 2.164

  325. Fredo Corleone

    Gayle:

    Not sure how DL time effects him, but once you have 3 full years in the bigs, you have arbitration rights. Yankees still own his ass until he has six years in, but he may well be arbitration eligible after ‘08.

  326. Yankee Trader

    Look at the Possible depth in the bullpen, many with A+ fastballs:
    Rivera
    Chamberlain
    Bruney
    Marte
    Coke
    Sanchez
    Veras
    Ramirez
    Albaladejo
    Robertson
    possibly Melancon

    Heck we might not need a 5th starter-could go to the bullpen for 2 innings apiece!!!!! What it tells me is that we have some trading chips for offensive help, whether it be for bench players or a package for an outfielder.

  327. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    According to Suzyn Waldman AJ Burnett has done everything but beg to be signed by the Yankees. The question, besides any other question you might have about him, is whether you want to sign a 32-year-old pitcher.

  328. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Instant replay first – call overruled at the Trop and Carlos Pena gets credit for a 3-run dinger. Rays easily winning 11-1.

  329. gayle

    Thanks FredoI was more worried about him being a free agent arbitration I can take. I think based on how hard he worked last off season and how he came back this year after the injury I like to see him in short spurts he seems to do really well and Girardi seems to know how to use him the right way.

  330. sw

    Those who want Garland: He had a 7-0 lead and now the Angels are trailing 9-7.

    Personally I don’t understand the salivating over getting TWO free agent pitchers this offseason with big multi-year deals. How about keeping some flexibility for the 2009 and 2010 free agent classes?

  331. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    Red Sox and the Jays are still tied 3-3 in the 8th.

  332. Rishi

    I confess – I, too, judge people based on the jerseys/t-shirts they wear to games…

  333. sunny615

    crap

  334. For $13 I'll be a Macadamia Nut

    Matsui and Damon come off next year. That will free up some salary in ‘09.

  335. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    ARod is getting frustrated.

  336. Yankee Trader

    Burnett so far has thrown 120 pitches tonight against Boston, given up 8 hits in 7 innings with 6 strikeouts. If he medically checks out OK after a full body scan, I’d say sign him up quickly while negotiating with Sabathia’s agent as CC will probably take longer to sign.

  337. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    I’ve got a Rivera t-shirt, an old Soriano one and one with no number on the back.

  338. Mark (Brett is back)

    This one guy had on a No. 19 Keyshawn Johnson Jets jersey.

    Pete you should of given that guy a damn ball.

  339. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    Somebody else had a Kei Igawa blue t-shirt.

    :shock:

  340. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Trader -

    That would be Burnett, Sabbathia, Wang, Joba and who?

    I’m personally all for bringing Moose back. If the Yanks do that, what happens to Hughes? Does he play another year in AAA? Do you think the Yanks bring back Moose and not Pettitte? I fear that they would bring both. So there are two of the spots. Wang and Joba take two more. Then what?

    Some serious decisions to be made.

  341. jennifer

    Mark :lol:

  342. Rishi

    I’ve a Bernie and a Tino…and a bunch of number-free t’s

  343. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    Somebody else had a Kei Igawa blue t-shirt.

    they are still selling those at the stadium.

  344. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    JOBA K’S THE SIDEEEEEEEE!

  345. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Joba be good.

  346. RalphieD

    joba+domination=jobanation

  347. DYNASTY IS DESTINY!

    Nasty!!!!

    Joba in the pen!!!! No better reliever-except Mo, of course!

  348. Fredo Corleone

    I’ve got the politically correct “I’m with Intellectually Challenged” T-shirt.

  349. GreenBeret7

    Impressive inning from Chamberlain, ending with the high 96 MPH fastball on Scott.

  350. COL 88

    If Burnett accepts a reasonable contract, I don’t see why not. However, we have to temper our expectations… he should be the #2-3 starter, not the ace— if we miss out on Sabathia and sign Burnett, nobody should think Burnett in anyway ‘makes up’ for not signing CC and will be the ace instead.

    Slot him in the middle of the rotation, and he’ll be fine. Unlike a lot of FAs, he seems to genuinely want to come here. Even in 2005 there were quotes saying he wanted to be a Yankee. As long as the fans and the team don’t expect an ace like CC, he is a good signing.

  351. EY

    *sarcasm* Keep Joba in the pen! *sarcasm*

  352. matt

    BRING BACK TRISHA’S BRAIN!

  353. Yankee Trader

    sw-
    Only definite starter for next season are:
    Wang, and he’s coming off an injury.

    Chamberlain might be in bullpen.
    Pettitte is FA
    Mussina is a FA
    Hughes has to prove himself.

    You have to sign 2 quality FA starters or go with unproven youngsters again.

    2009 is a bad year for position players, except Teixeira. Bradley and Dunn are at best DH’s and we have plenty of them.

    2010 is a good year for position players and pitchers.

  354. Tom

    I’ll admit to owning a Pavano Shirt.

  355. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    A Mets fan friend just emailed me this picture. It is beautiful but made me sad at the same time.

    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j236/trisha506/yankee_3373331.jpg

  356. Fredo Corleone

    Pretty dazzling relief all the way around tonite.

  357. Compton

    The only question he has to answer is health.

    Everything else is there for him to anchor our rotation as early as next year when he moves to the rotation… what a stud.

  358. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    is Giambi going to stick the finger at Roberts again? lol

  359. Redding

    Agree with all of those who say we need two good FA starters.

    Wang is the only lock for the rotation and we need to shield the kids.

  360. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    “matt” I always believe that a disparaging post about another poster, posted by someone who has suddenly posted for the first time all night, is a post by someone using a phony screenname.

    That makes you a pathetic coward.

    Next.

  361. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    Red Sox leads the Jays, 4-3. bummer.

  362. Fredo Corleone

    Jays with the big bats coming up down 4-3 in the 8th.

  363. Yankee Trader

    Trisha-
    Pettitte should be told to go home, stay in shape and off the juice and possibly might get a call up in mid June if our rotation needs help. He faded badly down the stretch.

    Mussina wants to come back, but would offer year to year contracts based on innings pitched, as he will need 2 years to reach 300 wins.

    Joba might start in the pen, and Hughes has to earn a starting spot.

  364. Fredo Corleone

    “If Burnett accepts a reasonable contract, I don’t see why not.”

    Probably not going to be reasonable. 4-5 years, $16M or so per.

  365. GreenBeret7

    Yanks have three players, Abreu (95), Giambi (93) and Nady (91) closing in on 100 RBI. How makes it?

  366. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    I’d be happy with AJ also.

    Jays just gave up the lead. Tough time to do it when you’re late into the game.

  367. Mike R

    I feel bad for Melky. He was accepted extremely fast by Yankee fans because of his first name, and because robbing Manny of that HR on 6/6/06. He struggled this season, and now he’s getting booed like he’s A-Rod’s brother. I admit he had a bad year, but this guy is 24 years old and really doesn’t deserve the boos.

  368. Jose

    Here’s how bad it’s gotten for the Mets–

    Nelson Figeroa, who is the Mets version of Rasner (journeyman long man/spot starter), is pitching in relief after not pitching in 10 days– trying to protect a 1 run lead.

  369. Trevor

    If they were to sign 2 FA starting pitchers, still what’s wrong with Joba remaining in the rotation?
    What’s wrong with Wang,Sabathia,Burnett,Joba,Mussina/Hughes?
    Factor in Burnett or if they opt for Sheet they are always hurt and Joba would likely move up a notch whenever those guys are on the DL. When healthy he would be the 4th starter when Burnett or Sheets is hurt he moves up to the 3 spot.
    It’s an embarrassment of riches but there’s nothing wrong with having an outstanding rotation 1-5.

  370. GreenBeret7

    How is not a choice ***Who Makes it?***

  371. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    how useless are the Jays? when they face the Yanks, they go all out.

  372. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Trader, I am one of the few, from what I have read here anyway, who do not want Pettitte back. I lose my nostalgia when someone who is supposed to be one of your horses keeps blowing up and losing games.

  373. Tom

    Make Joba the 5th starter. With the depth the Yankees have in their pen next year, Joba should be a starter. Resign moose. Sign CC. Then sign one of the Burnett, Lowe, Dempster, Garland, Lohse crowd.

    CC
    Wang
    Moose
    Free Agent
    Joba

    Have Hughes waiting in the wings in AAA.

  374. Dave D

    Just keep rooting the Rays and Angels… let them distance themselves for homefield from the Sox.

    Angels are 4 games up on Boston, Rays are 2

    Make it as hard as possible for Boston to get back to the series.

  375. Yankee Trader

    Sherrill in, Cano hits lefties better than righties, might he get a hit?

  376. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    so if the Yanks sign #1 & #2 starting pitchers, Wang will get shove down to the 3 spot?

  377. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Dave D –

    Oh yeah.

  378. AJ YANKS

    Ricarrdi hates the Yankees… he has lined it up so Hlaladay/Burnett have faced us the last 4 times we’ve played.

    I mean, not like it matters now, but still it shows how bitter he is.

  379. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    And the Mets don’t have a lead any more.

  380. On the road

    Things feel different these days. Does anyone feel like there is more heart on this team now than at all this year?

  381. Tom

    Burrnett’s Value

    “Blair [Jays beat writer] talked to an exec who thinks Burnett will require $15-18MM over four years.”

    -Top post on mlbtraderumors.com

  382. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Don’t know that it will happen but I’d love to see the dancing fruitcake blow the save in Toronto.

  383. On the road

    That 5th starter can be Aceves, Hughes, etc…

  384. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    On the Road: Without question.

  385. CaptainsCorner

    I don’t know if this was already talked about on here but…CC is pitching tomorrow on 3 days rest. They are losing today 11-2. Considering he has averaged about 120 pitches his last couple of starts that really is a lot to ask. Hopefully his arm makes it to next season…

  386. joey

    who thinks the yanks should have signed johan santana?

  387. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    “Things feel different these days. Does anyone feel like there is more heart on this team now than at all this year?”

    It does to me. I don’t know if it’s the nostalgia of the last stand at the Stadium or whether the ghosts are helping out, but if they had played like this for at least half of the year we probably would have clinched a spot already.

  388. Yankee Trader

    GB7-My guess is Abreu gets to 100 RBI’s, as Giambi will see less time, once we are eliminated.

  389. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    The Mets bullpen is a cardiologist’s dream come true.

  390. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    The Jays will go all out keeping Aj Burnett this off season. Shaun Marcum will have TJ surgery and will miss the 2009 season.

  391. Fredo Corleone

    “Ricarrdi hates the Yankees… he has lined it up so Hlaladay/Burnett have faced us the last 4 times we’ve played.”

    PARANOIA!!!

    Halladay = 4 starts vs. the Yankees/4 vs, Boston with a 5th tomorrow

    Burnett = 4 starts vs, both teams.

  392. Tom

    Ed. From what I’ve read that seem to be their intention.
    Imagine if the Brewers resigned CC.

  393. franco

    joe torre must be horse laughing the yankees right about now.

  394. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    the Jeter-spin!

  395. GreenBeret7

    Great play by jeter on a guy with outstanding speed. His throws are perfect when he has very little time.

  396. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    Ed. From what I’ve read that seem to be their intention.
    Imagine if the Brewers resigned CC.

    I think CC is going to stay in the NL, pitching and batting for him.

  397. Only umps on the take hate instant replay.

    It’s alright Mo! At least you showed some contortion out there!

  398. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    joe torre must be horse laughing the yankees right about now.

    horse? No
    hoarse? maybe

    But I am sure he drinks a lot of Bigelow tea to help with that.

    :)

  399. Mark (Brett is back)

    Listen to the crowd, just chanting Lets Go Yankees is great.

  400. Brandon (Humberto's coming home !)..."Reward Colin Curtis's .414 postseason AVG "

    joe torre must be horse laughing the yankees right about now.

    And if he’s doing that I could care less he’s not here get over it.

  401. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Lovely moment in Toronto. The dancing fruitcake just slipped off the mound, made a bad throw, got an error, and helped the batter get to second with nobody out. Here’s hoping.

  402. CaptainsCorner

    Come on Mo!! Get the minor leaguers out before you get to the top of the order..

  403. GreenBeret7

    Trader, gotta agree on Abreu…like last year, when he went to the final game needing one and got to without a hit or a sac fly, but, I think Giambi will make it also.

  404. Moose Jab

    Who threw the very first game pitch at Yankee Stadium in 1923? (Moose candy bars for the winner.)

  405. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    OMG, Mo is going to give me a heart attack.

  406. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    what the hell is that??

  407. Rishi

    um – one more out please

  408. CaptainsCorner

    Crap…alittle sloppy on that one..Yanks are lucky the runner didn’t try to score. Here comes Roberts who always hits the Yanks.

  409. Brandon (Humberto's coming home !)..."Reward Colin Curtis's .414 postseason AVG "

    Mo must want some drama tonight.

  410. Only umps on the take hate instant replay.

    Another nail-biter!

  411. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    “joe torre must be horse laughing the yankees right about now.”

    “franco” is likely a Sux fan. Ignore him.

  412. Only umps on the take hate instant replay.

    game!

  413. Brandon (Humberto's coming home !)..."Reward Colin Curtis's .414 postseason AVG "

    Bless the soil that man touches

  414. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    THANK YOU ROBERTS!!!!!

  415. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    There are few Yankee sites more pleasing than a big grin on Mo’s face.

  416. Mark (Brett is back)

    Another solid win, and other win for the Rajah haha.

  417. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    You know that Mo sometimes likes to make it interesting!

  418. CaptainsCorner

    Thanks Mo!! I couldn’t take it anymore..I also cant stand Roberts.

  419. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    Oy
    c’mon Mo

  420. GreenBeret7

    Rivera must have figured that the game was too easy and boring, so he decided to have some fun.

  421. terry

    blue jays win 5-4

  422. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    WooHoo!

  423. Brandon (Humberto's coming home !)..."Reward Colin Curtis's .414 postseason AVG "

    blue jays win 5-4

    It’s just too late.

  424. Fredo Corleone

    That was such a Mo pitch. I think I’d rather see him close the Stadium like that moreso than a strikeout.

  425. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    “Bless the soil that man touches”

    My feeling exactly Brandon. There just isn’t enough praise.

  426. tarheelyank

    Why wasn’t that play at first interference? He was inside the line.

  427. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    “blue jays win 5-4″

    It would be nice…

  428. Yankee Trader

    Gardner player of the game, RBI, outfield assist and spectacular play to rob Scott of homer. Kudos to the bullpen.

  429. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    I’d say we should get at least one web gem on BBT.

  430. pat

    “Things feel different these days. Does anyone feel like there is more heart on this team now than at all this year?”

    I think the heart was always there. It’s just easier to see when they are winning.

  431. Brandon (Humberto's coming home !)..."Reward Colin Curtis's .414 postseason AVG "

    Trisha seriously Mariano if he ever walks the street it should be a crime, that man needs to be walked by red carpet.

  432. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    I hate to bring this up, but last year, all the Mets had to do was win two games…

  433. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Brandon, I hear ya. I don’t think I could even breathe if I ever got to meet him. You almost feel like you wouldn’t be worthy to be in his presence.

    He is in rarefied air.

  434. jennifer

    wait did the jays win or not?

  435. NITRO

    Nady has really fallen off these past couple of weeks, now hitting just .277, tons of Ks, and his defense is mediocre at best.

    Not the Paulie O’Neil-guy we fantasized over… a solid role player, not a guy who should have been traded for Tabata. Casey Blake would have been available for peanuts compared to that and contributed just as much as Nady.

  436. Fredo Corleone

    Tying run on third and 2 out in Ontario.

  437. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Guys.

    We have the same record as the Twins.

  438. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    the Blue Jays actually rallied and won? wow…6.5 for us too then! wow…

  439. sw

    Runner on third, two out Toronto still trailing 4-3.

  440. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    JAYS DID NOT WIN.

    GAME STILL GOING.

  441. Brandon (Humberto's coming home !)..."Reward Colin Curtis's .414 postseason AVG "

    Brandon, I hear ya. I don’t think I could even breathe if I ever got to meet him. You almost feel like you wouldn’t be worthy to be in his presence.

    He is in rarefied air.

    We are not worthy to breathe his air.

  442. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Oh and the Rangers-Angels is 13-12 in the fifth

  443. t-rock

    It is a shame we have wasted 8 years of Mariano.

  444. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    thanks Trisha.

  445. jennifer

    damn I just texted people saying the soxs lost. Now I lied. “(

  446. red sox nation

    Some of you guys are idiots……red sox just won 4-3

  447. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Jays lost.

  448. Moose Jab

    Jays lost.

  449. Fredo Corleone

    Ball game. 4-3 Boston

  450. Only umps on the take hate instant replay.

    bluebirds failed :(

  451. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    damn..

  452. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    We’re back in third place.

  453. terry

    okaaay…. i lied…

  454. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    “Some of you guys are idiots……red sox just won 4-3″

    But not quite as big an idiot as you for groupying around a Yankee forum.

    jen, you got confused because terry posted that the jays won, but I think he was just posting his deepest wish and not what had happened.

  455. jennifer

    We’re idiots? How about the person who posted wrong information. And what are you doing here?

  456. RalphieD

    “It is a shame we have wasted 8 years of Mariano.”

    no idea what that means…

  457. MJR (Shut Up Steve Phillips)

    Great job Mo!

    CC
    Wang
    Moose
    Joba/Hughes
    Coke

    NO way we can afford Aj at teh same time as CC.

    I vote to bring Abreu back. Giambi just seems like he’s good for the clubhouse.

  458. Brandon (Humberto's coming home !)..."Reward Colin Curtis's .414 postseason AVG "

    7 – 5 in Atlanta the Mets got that game in the bag.

  459. red sox nation

    A litte disappointed are we trisha that the Sox won? You’ll get over it.

  460. jennifer

    with that pen?

  461. RalphieD

    off topic but how do you italicize words lol?

  462. Mark (Brett is back)

    Hopefully the Yanks can win the next 2, and the Jays take 1 so the elimination does not happen at home.

  463. zellyanks91

    After the 5th inning..only two hits were given up, and they were both let up by Mo. The bullpen combined for: 4.0IP 2H 0R 0ER 1BB 7K. The bullpen was brilliant tonight.

    Kevin

  464. t-rock

    A Red Sox fan spending his Friday night in a Journal News- Lower Hudson-Valley Yankees blog?

    You my friend, are the idiot.

  465. jennifer

    I have a hint. There is a little thing called google. Use it and look for sox blogs. There are plenty of idiots who would want to read your nonsense.

  466. The Updater

    Love how you all watch the Red Sox and dream of them not winning another World Series.

    Um….by the way….you get terminated tomorrow!

    REPEAT RED SOX 2008…..much to your dismay!

  467. Brandon (Humberto's coming home !)..."Reward Colin Curtis's .414 postseason AVG "

    no idea what that means…

    He wanted 8 championships in that span.

  468. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    RalphieD -

    I always figure that people who show up late and say dumb things are trolls/Sux fans.

    Ignore dumb comments.

  469. Fredo Corleone

    “It is a shame we have wasted 8 years of Mariano.”

    I’d prefer to look at it as we’ve taken advantage of having him for the past 13 years.

  470. RalphieD

    “Ignore dumb comments.”

    ignoring is boring lol :P

  471. Tank

    It’s amazng how Coke went from an afterthought who was almost demoted to A-ball, then almost traded to PIT, to a staple in the Yankees bullpen all in 2 months.

  472. sw

    Does Coke have enough pitches to be an ML starter? Kay (I know, I know) said in the minors he only had a fastball until he developed a slider this year.

  473. Don't know why....

    but this is the place to be tonight if you’re a RED sox fan!

    Are we not invited?

    4-3 World Champs

  474. Brandon (Humberto's coming home !)..."Reward Colin Curtis's .414 postseason AVG "

    And still Red Sox think we care about them. My man you guys could jump infront of a truck and I wouldn’t give it second thought …well not like that… but really celebrate your season elsewhere we don’t care. We don’t whine like your fans, we come to understand what is needed.

  475. red sox nation

    It’s ok. I understand some of you are a little embarassed from jumping up and down, all excited that the Sox lost. Your issue is not with me but with knucklehead Terry for posting that garbage.

  476. matt's dad

    Peter,

    Thanks so much for your blog. My son introduced it to me when I got a blackberry. I will miss it when season over.
    Do you write about another sport for winter?

  477. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    “A litte disappointed are we trisha that the Sox won? You’ll get over it.”

    Pal, remember this score. 26-7. You and your come-lately team are nothing more than a fly speck on the horizon of good baseball. Now go back to your craptown sewer.

    Thanks!

  478. patrick max

    Coke = Erik Bedard. a lefty late bloomer.

  479. pat

    Girardi postgame
    Pav did his job and we were able to mix and match from the pen…..Gardy has some tools….The atmosphere is great and we are fortunate to play in front of these fans day in and day out.

  480. jennifer

    Well Atlanta just threw the game away. They are leaving Julian “freddie Krugar” to get smacked around.

  481. patrick max

    mets have this game in the bag

    the brewers are toast. mets-phils to october

  482. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    matt’s dad: Pete still updates this during the winter.

    That’s when the real fun begins.

  483. jennifer

    matt’s dad

    Pete posts information about the Yankees all yearlong. no worries.

    trisha they think cause they won twice in 4 years that negates 86 years of being losers.

  484. Brandon (Humberto's coming home !)..."Reward Colin Curtis's .414 postseason AVG "

    Coke = Erik Bedard. a lefty late bloomer.

    That would be something if he does. I mean his fastball has good pop, from a good angle that hides the ball well, it’s going to come down to his armslot and the slider, if he keeps his slider the way it is and developes the chnage up he can be a #5 SP

  485. Jorge Tabata

    The Diet Coke Bandit (Francessa) is drooling thinking about a Mets-Dodgers NLDS

  486. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    RalphieD September 19th, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    off topic but how do you italicize words lol?

    (i)I want this sentence to be in italics(/i)

    but change the ( and ) to and make sure you use lowercase i

    I want this sentence to be in italics

  487. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    ***argh..should be: but change the ( and ) to the less than and greater than sign and make sure you use lowercase i

  488. Compton

    Pavano is 4-1…. making a strong case to come back next year if we don’t get CC…….

  489. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    “trisha they think cause they won twice in 4 years that negates 86 years of being losers.”

    :lol:

    jen, how many of the last 13 postseasons have the craptown sewer scums been in? Amazing how they feel they have huge bragging rights after being the almost-rans for most of their team’s baseball history!

    And the best one of all, as we know, is their cloying need to hang out on a Yankee forum. They will never get over their inferiority complex!

    :D

  490. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    “At some point in this offseason, I’ll decide what’s going on,” said Mussina, who turns 40 on Dec. 8. “Obviously, to come back here and play, they’re going to have to want me to come back here and play.

    “I’m not exactly getting any younger. I don’t know if I can throw out 18 wins again next year, but I’d sure like to take a shot at it somewhere. And hopefully these guys will give me a chance.”

    If the Yankees want him back, Mussina said, “That would be an easy answer.”

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/

    I would want Moose to come back

  491. Fredo Corleone

    “jen, how many of the last 13 postseasons have the craptown sewer scums been in?”

    Trish:

    Were you an English major? ;)

  492. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    Pavano is 4-1…. making a strong case to come back next year if we don’t get CC…….

    LOL hahahahahas.

  493. Mark (Brett is back)

    Wow Sox fans do lots of talking for a team that lost 4 of 6 to the Rays in September, and didn’t once beat the Angels this year.

    Have fun trying to beat those teams in the playoffs.

  494. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Fredo – journalism

    :D

    I always revert to street talk when I’m dealing with scummy topics…

  495. Fredo Corleone

    “Obviously, to come back here and play, they’re going to have to want me to come back here and play”

    Does this scream “pay me if you want me” in sort of an understated Stanfordish way????

  496. PJH

    Pavano could have thrown a perfect game tonight and I still would not sign him next year. If you think the Yankees are going to waste their time, money and effort signing Carl Pavano to a deal for next year because he won 4 meaningless games in September you are out of your mind. The guy had a 5+ ERA before tonight. When you have a chance to get rid of a cancer on your team for nothing but a good bye, you cant refuse it.

  497. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Here’s a quiz for you (I just saw it on Baseball Tonight)

    Which AL team has the most losses in Yankee Stadium?

    They keep showing Brett’s catch. I think it may be the number one web gem. Also, they are also talking about him as possibly starting in center in the new Y Stadium.

    Yankees also manage to be the topic of conversation.

    :)

  498. Fredo Corleone

    Trish:

    To go with the street parlance theme…..you go girl!!!

  499. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    * always

  500. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Well, if a letter writing campaign got Andy to come back for one more year, who says it won’t work for Moose?

  501. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Fredo – :D

    Street talk just seems to effortless flow from my lips when the craptown scrum suckers are the topic of conversation. It’s like I’m transported to another level – and obviously not a higher level!

  502. ray (sox fan)

    Mark (Brett is back)
    September 19th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
    “Wow Sox fans do lots of talking for a team that lost 4 of 6 to the Rays in September, and didn’t once beat the Angels this year.

    Have fun trying to beat those teams in the playoffs.”

    Last year I don’t think Cleveland defeated the Yankees even once during the regular season, but we all know how that turned out in the postseason.

    I’m not trying to talk trash, just pointing out that the regular season results don’t always have a huge impact on playoff results.

  503. Brandon (Humberto's coming home !)..."Reward Colin Curtis's .414 postseason AVG "

    Stokes to close out the game in Atlanta, get your popcorn ready ?

  504. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    * effortlessly

    wrong word upon which to screw up!

    I’m telling you Brett has to be the number one web gem! They just keep showing that clip on Baseball Tonight!!!

  505. Brandon (Humberto's coming home !)..."Reward Colin Curtis's .414 postseason AVG "

    ray, you know what he means, trust us your atleast one Red Sox fan that we’re not bothered by.

  506. Mark in Tampa

    Sheffield got into a brawl tonight and apparently got his a** handed to him by Fausto Carmona

  507. jennifer

    Moose is stating the truth. If Mike wants to come back and the Yankees don’t want him back it doesn’t mean anything.

  508. RalphieD

    “***argh..should be: but change the ( and ) to the less than and greater than sign and make sure you use lowercase i”

    lol i didnt see that at first S.A. and i was so confused as to what you said… thank you

  509. PJH

    Brandon- The Mets will probably win but you obviously dont watch much of the Mets if you think they have anything in the bag. I dont care what the score is.

  510. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Mark I saw the clip of the brawl and Carmona looked like he had him in a headlock and was whacking him repeatedly over the head.

    Jete number 4 web gem for his jump and throw.

  511. RalphieD

    yeah gardy #1 webgem on baseball tonight!!!!

  512. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    And the number one web gem: YOU GO BRETT!!!

  513. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Brett #1 Web Gem

  514. ray (sox fan)

    Brandon,
    I definitely know what he means. The Angels have beat up on the Sox this year, but I also know that in recent years the Sox have done very well against them in the playoffs.

    So if it turns out to be the Sox and Angels it will be interesting.

  515. jennifer

    Sounded good, where can I see it?

  516. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    trisha, to answer your trivia question…it’s the O’s that got the most losses. (i was watching it too. lol)

  517. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    I wish the Yanks is as hot as the Marlins right now. massive runs in every game.

  518. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    Ed – no, it was the Sux!

  519. Ed - strange things happens in baseball [good things happens when it's the full moon the Yanks]

    Ed – no, it was the Sux!

    oh yeah…i was too busy looking at the numbers. =(

  520. GreenBeret7

    Rebecca, I don’t think Mussina needs or wants an letter writing campaign. Most reasonable people understood what he meant. “Offer me a decent contract at a fair price and I’ll be back, because I’ve enjoyed myself here.” Like Pettitte, I don’t think Mussina’s going to rob the Yanks and would go with a year at a time and possibly a mutual option. Just my opinion, though.

    (The first two sentences weren’t directed to you, Rebecca, only to the ones with the more skeptical view of Mussina’s meaning.) Not everyone is out to gouge out every penny.

  521. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK!

    jen, I’m thinking that a clip will soon be available on mlb.com. It will definitely be shown on Sports Center and ESPNews if you have the head to sit through them – or definitely the late edition of Baseball Tonight.

  522. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and hopefully the offense won't be so offensive.

    lol i didnt see that at first S.A. and i was so confused as to what you said… thank you

    No prob. Glad to see you got it working. :)

  523. gayle

    Gotta love Bartola Colon.

    he was granted permission to go home to attend topersonal mattes then when home told the Sox he isnt coming back. According to SPortscenter Francona said it was because he wasnt happy with the teams plan touse him in the bullpen as he wants to starts.

    This guys has got to be delusional at best.

  524. Mark (Brett is back)

    Ray- I agree Sox Angels would be a great series, and you guys would have a great chance to win the series. Jusy annoyed when the trolls come on, not yourself. I respect your posts alot.

  525. ray (sox fan)

    Mark

    I can certainly appreciate the frustration with the trolls.

    And I also know that even though the Sox had a number of injuries I think the injuries to Posada, Wang, and Chamberlain were really tough on the Yankees.

    Had they been healthy we could be looking a very different postseason.

  526. GreenBeret7

    A really great race would be seeing NYY, Boston, Toronto and Tampa Bay at 100% health have everyone having their normal season next year.

  527. GreenBeret7

    ***100% health and everyone having their normal season next year***

  528. Morris WhiteShoes

    Until it is known who will the GM, “who will go, who will stay and who will be added (via trade or free agency)” is pure speculation. Having said that, if Cashman returns it’s unlikely there will be many changes,and most of the boys will be back. If we have a new GM, there’s a good chance the changes will be considerable with a team structured to the liking of the “new guy”, assuming it is someone from outside the organization. The restraints will be the requirement of fielding a competitive team for obvious reasons….stated otherwise, there will be no dramatic overhaul in “the interests of rebuilding”.

  529. Amanda from La.

    stupid ump…I don’t think his bat went all the way.

  530. Emmaline

    Halo! The babes are here! This is my best site to visit. I make sure I am alone in case I get too hot. Post your favorite link here.

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