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The heavy stuff is coming down

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Sep 26, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

If for some reason you were planning to devote your evening to watching the Yankees-Red Sox game, I’d make alternative plans.

There’s what is essentially a tropical storm hitting Boston. Rain, winds, flooding, the whole deal. I can’t imagine we’re going to have any baseball tonight. I just arrived at Fenway Park and there’s a river on the warning track.

I’ll update you later as more information becomes available.

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65 Responses to “The heavy stuff is coming down”

  1. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Brotherhood of the Fist September 26th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    is it going to clear by Sunday?

  2. Phil - 27 in '09 September 26th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    MMMOOOOOOOSSSEEEE!!!

  3. NJ in Tampa September 26th, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    Wow Pete what are you going to do if you can’t rip Girardi today?

  4. jennifer September 26th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    http://www.wunderground.com/tr.....00811.html

    Doesn’t look like it. Tropical Storm Kyle is headed our way. Last I heard it will probably become a hurricane. :(

  5. 86w183 September 26th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    Pete—- please start a discussion thread on a topic that doesn’t involve Girardi and the media… PLEASE!!!

  6. Garym September 26th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Well why would we watch,because we are diehard yankee fans, and i like watching the young guys looking forward to next year. Most of the fans didn’t start showing up until the Yanks started winning after 1996 but i remember what it was like before then, never making it. This just makes you appreciate the run that much more, how amazing it really was. This is a tough year but i expect the Yankees to bounce back in a big way. And yes i think the media is a little harsh with Joe G because everyone loves Torre but he also needs to figure out how to deal with injuries. As long as Boston loses we will be ok, lets go LOU and the CUBS

  7. Greg Cohen September 26th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Why are people defending Girardi? There’s no reason he should lie as much as he does regarding injuries. He acts like they’re state secrets, and that’s a joke.

    Anyway, instead of talking about Girardi how about checking out some new pics of the new stadium? — http://tinyurl.com/4mxr5f

  8. YankCrank20 September 26th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Guys, Pete is a journalist who reports on the Yankees and has to deal with Girardi every day. If you don’t like hearing about the media or the Yankees manager than you may want to check out other Yankees blogs. There are about 3,000 other blogs who have no insider access and spread terrible, false rumors not including the media or Girardi…go read those.

  9. Phil - 27 in '09 September 26th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Pete has to generate blog hits, just like everyone else. Ripping Girardi is his way…and also he can throw in his personal slant.

  10. jason September 26th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    repost from previous thread:

    Nice preview article about the Yank prospects in Hawaii – games start Sat. Between Hawaii and AZ we will have some really top end talent to follow and take our mind off “other baseball” the next month and a half.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....66929.html

  11. Fredo Corleone September 26th, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    “Pete—- please start a discussion thread on a topic that doesn’t involve Girardi and the media… PLEASE!!!”

    86:

    He just did.

  12. Matt September 26th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    Giradi deserves to be ripped if this is all true.

  13. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Brotherhood of the Fist September 26th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    Greg: How do you keep getting these photos? They’re quite good.

  14. E-Man September 26th, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    Sorry Pete you’re wrong on this.

    Joe Girardi pressed that it would be light enough rain to get a game in.

    Nobody should worry about it.

    Joe knows best.

    Go back to watching Fox news.

  15. Brandon (We'll miss you Yankees Stadium !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 26th, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    The more I look at the pics of those new digs the more I keep on saying to myself don’t go crazy in FA, the players that belong in that stadium need to earn it.

  16. pat September 26th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Sweeney on WFAN says Cashman says Girardi knew Mo was having an MRI for a reason other than year end physical and has privately been apologizing to beat writers for Girardi not telling the media what he should hae told them.

  17. Greg Cohen September 26th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Rebecca,

    I search for them on message boards and web sites. New pics usually pop up once or twice a weeks.

  18. Al Neri September 26th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Joe Girardi on the weather: “its fine”
    Joe Torre: (sipping his green tea) “ya know sonnie, its gonna be a wet one. Smoke’em if you got’em”.

  19. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Brotherhood of the Fist September 26th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    Greg: You might want to credit the photographers, then–I keep thinking they’re your own.

    pat: I’ll believe it.

    Al: LMAO!

  20. Joe from Long Island September 26th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    Looks like I’ll be watching the debate with my wife tonight. Oh, well.

    On another note, that was a nice article about Andrew Brackman playing in Hawaii, linked to by Jason, above. I’ll wager a lot of eyes will be on that young man. How he does, and how long it projects to make him major league ready, will impact a lot of decisions about directions to go in over the course of the winter.

  21. jennifer September 26th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    Instead of Cash apologzing to the media why doesn’t he speak with Joe about what he should and shouldn’t say.

  22. Laura September 26th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    “Sweeney on WFAN says Cashman says Girardi knew Mo was having an MRI for a reason other than year end physical and has privately been apologizing to beat writers for Girardi not telling the media what he should hae told them.”

    So Cashman is throwing Girardi under the bus. Great. Here’s hoping Mo comes out and says that he told Girardi to keep his condition on the down low. That way, Cashman will be the one looking like an idiot.

  23. Jorge Tabata September 26th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    Girardi said that Kennedy has a terrific year and he loves what he saw from him and feels he could anchor our rotation next year.

  24. Tank September 26th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    To be honest, Cashman looks much worse than Girardi in this. He threw his manager under the bus.

  25. jk September 26th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    We had the same downpour overnight in NYC. I doubt the Mets are playing tonight or tomorrow.

    Kat O’Brien at Newsday has a less harsh view of Girardi. She accepts the fact Girardi will not give out info on player injuries. Take a look if you want to see another point of view.

  26. Fredo Corleone September 26th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    “So Cashman is throwing Girardi under the bus. Great. Here’s hoping Mo comes out and says that he told Girardi to keep his condition on the down low. That way, Cashman will be the one looking like an idiot.”

    Horse has already left the barn on that one. They gave two different answers to the same question. They BOTH look like idiots.

  27. mel September 26th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    *Repost*

    Just finished watching this version:

    http://tinyurl.com/Girardi-Inquisition

    Just confirms a lot of what I’ve already written.

    Mo either hid his concern from Joe or Joe is protecting the player.

    And he was managing while Cashman was singing.

    And Girardi was very patient. I would’ve thrown something. That’s really saying something.

  28. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 26th, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    “Sweeney on WFAN says Cashman says Girardi knew Mo was having an MRI for a reason other than year end physical and has privately been apologizing to beat writers for Girardi not telling the media what he should hae told them.”

    A little too third hand for me (Sweeney says Cashman says), but still comports with what we’ve already been told and that is that Mo asked Joe to keep it under wraps and he did.

    “Kat O’Brien at Newsday has a less harsh view of Girardi. She accepts the fact Girardi will not give out info on player injuries. Take a look if you want to see another point of view.”

    Does it typically take a woman to understand that all of life isn’t black and white and that sometimes shades of grey also make sense? Geesh.

    Too much testosterone running in that room last night!

  29. Brandon (We'll miss you Yankees Stadium !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 26th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    Brian Cashman trying to get fired :lol:

  30. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Brotherhood of the Fist September 26th, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    I will probably break something if Moose can’t start on Sunday or if they don’t make that game up.

    I can handle not making the playoffs in part because it’s the team’s own fault.

    It’s totally not Moose’s fault if exogenous factors like the bleepin’ bloody weather keep him from the start that would give it to him!

  31. Fredo Corleone September 26th, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    “She accepts the fact Girardi will not give out info on player injuries”

    Kind of odd that she’d accept something that isn’t true. Girardi does give out information on player injuries. Generally it’s false information.

    If he gave no information, he’d be fine.

  32. Redding September 26th, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    He had to apologize on Girardi’s behalf? Why couldn’t he just say it was a misunderstanding or we found out more info as it was released?

    I agree with those who say Cashman is the one who looks like the culprit. He is your first year manager, you protect him and then pull him to the side and tell him not to do it.

    If Hank/Hal knew anything about baseball, they can’t be happy about their GM doing this.

  33. Laura September 26th, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    Are those construction workers Yankee fans or do they have a Yankees Jersey dress code at the construction site?

    So far, the stadium looks great! Can’t wait to see it after it’s done. I hope I can afford the tickets. I might be losing my job next year so there may not be room left in my budget for expensive baseball tickets!

  34. NITRO September 26th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Cash has one foot out the door— it’s apparent.

    This is why we should never have had a lame duck GM.

  35. Laura September 26th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    “If he gave no information, he’d be fine.”

    No because then Pete and crew would be complaining that he wasn’t saying anything. They complain when he less than truthful, they complain when he’s quiet. The guy can’t win.

  36. randy l September 26th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    girardi said he thought it was going to be sunny.

    he’s a liar.

    bad man. very very bad.

  37. E-Rod September 26th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    Francessa is exactly kind of supportive of Girardi and thinks there is a Cashman/Girardi rift because the GM usually never does that to a manager.

  38. Fredo Corleone September 26th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    Kinda flies in the face of Hal’s “we want Cashman back” statements doesn’t it, Nitro?

    Or do see Cashman leaving on his own accord.

  39. Jose September 26th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Hank/Hal-Cashman-Girardi

    The 3 stooges.

    I miss George-Torre-Stick/Watson.

  40. Jeff September 26th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    I blame A-Rod.

  41. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Brotherhood of the Fist September 26th, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    All right guys, you’ve opened the door for this:

    If Cashman doesn’t return as GM,

    a) Who will get the job, and

    b) Who would you like to get the job?

  42. Fredo Corleone September 26th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    “No because then Pete and crew would be complaining that he wasn’t saying anything”

    Disagree, Laura. If he says “we’re not sure whether there’s something wrong and if so, what it is. When we know, we’ll tell you”, I think he’s on perfectly safe ground. Beat writers can’t rightfully bitch about that kind of response.

  43. TurnTwo September 26th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    trade cano

  44. LLIME September 26th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Cashman is done here. First he threw Hughes under the bus by dismissing his AAA numbers how he throws his hand-picked manager under the bus. He’s had enough here and doesn’t want to fix the Yankees and deal with Hank’s mouth and brushfires. Let him go ruin Seattle next year. Peace.

  45. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 26th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    3 Possible Teams that could be interested in Giambi:

    Source: Daily News

    Jason Giambi is probably finishing up his Yankee career this weekend once the team buys out his $23 million option for a mere $5 million. Rumor has it he says he has a few more years left in those legs so he’ll be looking for a multiyear deal. Toronto GM J.P. Ricciardi was pals with Giambi when they were both in Oakland so rumor has it he’s ready to fork over some dough to get Giambi off the freee-agent shelf.

    Source: MLbtraderumors

    Giambi, 38 in January, hit .251/.377/.513 in 551 plate appearances. His defensive numbers at first base grade out poorly, and time will have to be spent at DH. Possible fits: the Angels or Rangers. However, the Rangers may focus on pitching even if Milton Bradley departs. If the Angels lose Mark Teixeira and Garret Anderson, they might have room for Giambi. They reportedly had interest in Giambi in May of last year.

  46. Brandon (We'll miss you Yankees Stadium !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 26th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    trade cano

    LOL Yeh that’s still a No.

    I miss George-Torre-Stick/Watson.

    Oh so you miss perfect baseball ? Well duh, now I’d like to know when it is that people will buy into the fact that this team needs to be rebuilt, year 7 in the new stadium or yr. 10 ?

  47. randy l September 26th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    “a) Who will get the job, and
    b) Who would you like to get the job?”

    if i’ve told you once, i’ve told you a thousand times, who is on first.

  48. mel September 26th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    I don’t know who this Francessa character is, but I think it’s more of a misunderstanding than a stab in the back.

    It was a bang, bang play. I love the comment about the cell phone reception. And Joe’s right, he’d never do anything to hurt Mo, and the writers insulted him by insinuating that.

    Next time there needs to be a conference call between player, GM, and Joe. But then there wouldn’t be anything to write about.

    Brian Hoch goes a little further into the story, even got quotes from Mo’s close friend, Jose Veras.

    “I think it is not a big deal,” Veras said. “He just felt a little sore and went to check to make sure that everything is normal. I don’t think it’s a big deal. I think it’s going to be OK.

    “He can pitch, but he doesn’t want to keep pitching like that, you know what I mean?” Veras continued. “He made sure that he went to check. Hopefully he’ll be OK and I think he’s coming [Friday].”

  49. TurnTwo September 26th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    “LOL Yeh that’s still a No.”

    ha, just trying to say something to change the subject.

    and id still do it for the right player in return!

  50. Axel September 26th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    Al Neri, great post!

    Hank: “If we got as much sunshine as the Dodgers do we would make the playoffs too.”

  51. Forntoso September 26th, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    A. I think Hal/Stick/Afterman will take over in the interim. I am not sure if they will go the Buck route again or if there is anyone they have in mind. I think there will eventually be a new GM but not in place this winter.

    B. Showalter or woo John Schurolz out of retirement in Atlanta.

  52. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption September 26th, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    *Repost*

    My problem with some of the Girardi apologists on this blog are that they want guys like Pete to give us the in the trenches/ in the locker room type of story that only guys embedded in the team can get us, while at the same time berating those same guys for doing the work needed to get those stories. You can’t have it both ways. For me I am glad guys like Pete are there fighting for information and real stories about the players I care so much about. The way I am a fan is more about the players and less about the color scheme of the clothes they wear on the field. That means I listen critically and dont just say thank you when 3 days after an injury the team decides to give me a BS report about a guy I care about. If all you care about is what happens 1-9 well goody for you go read the box score, oh and send the beat writers home as they become redundant repeats of the 9 innings of the day. The rest of us are interested in the guys on the team as human beings though and don’t see the world through pinstriped lenses, so excuse me for not shedding a tear over poor Joe repeatedly being asked reasonable questions and continually lying through his teeth.

  53. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 26th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    And Girardi was very patient. I would’ve thrown something. That’s really saying something.

    Mel that is exactly what I saw. When Sherman had his tiff with Girardi, he actually asked the same question at least 5 times before Girardi finally left him have it. And that’s because Girardi kept giving the same answer and Sherman didn’t like the answer.

    I said before that I watch every postgame and have never found Girardi to be other than polite and accomodating, even at times when they have tried to provoke him. Once or twice they managed to get to him. Big deal.

  54. randy l September 26th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    “For me I am glad guys like Pete are there fighting for information and real stories about the players I care so much about. ”

    yeah me too. i live and die on pete’s stories and not on the yankees winning or losing. that’s just a side line to the drama of those powerful stories.

    i love stories. to me that’s what baseball is all about , stories.

    and when you think about it, the real fighters are the storytellers and not the athletes. anyone can play baseball, but writing. now that’s something i’d pay to see.

  55. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 26th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    “My problem with some of the Girardi apologists on this blog are that they want guys like Pete to give us the in the trenches/ in the locker room type of story that only guys embedded in the team can get us, while at the same time berating those same guys for doing the work needed to get those stories. You can’t have it both ways.”

    Rob, I guess I have the right to come here for whatever reason I choose, yes? Mine isn’t to read Pete’s scoops. In fact I hardly ever read his updates because I find it offputting to have to keep going to the top to read. I don’t read game updates either. Later I may peruse them. So I am not someone who’s looking for an embedded reporter. Truly.

    “The rest of us are interested in the guys on the team as human beings though”

    Yeah and that’s what the postgames are for. Those human beings are interviewed every night. If you don’t get YES you can go on their website and view it later.

    Finally, if you have read the feedback regarding this situation, the majority of posters seem to be in the Girardi camp, or else they are saying they really don’t care. The press has some support but the majority of the support has gone in the other direction.

    As always there is room for all views.

  56. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 26th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    randy -

    :lol:

  57. EDUB September 26th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    From the other thread: Funny onion video on the new Yankee stadium.

    http://www.theonion.com/conten.....w_vacation

  58. 86w183 September 26th, 2008 at 3:21 pm

    I’m done with Girardi/Truthiness debate….

    Not surprised the Giambi will have suitors. Will be interesting to see what kind of cash he’s offered considering his age and issues at 1B.

    Any ideas on what team(s) might pursue Abreu?

  59. Brandon (We'll miss you Yankees Stadium !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 26th, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    EDUB that FREAKING HILARIOUS !!!! :lol:

  60. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption September 26th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    You’re right Randy, collecting information and writing a story that gives you insight into the people doing those amazing things on the field is irrelevant to the overall experience of being a fan. Who needs newspapers anyway? The Yankees will tell us everything we need to know! And if they don’t want to? Who cares because they know better than us what we should hear anyway.

  61. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 26th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    “Disagree, Laura. If he says “we’re not sure whether there’s something wrong and if so, what it is. When we know, we’ll tell you”, I think he’s on perfectly safe ground. Beat writers can’t rightfully bitch about that kind of response.”

    Fredo, you ever listen to those postgame conferences? I can suggest what you would happen next if Girardi said what you suggested.

    What do you think it might be?
    When did you first learn about this?
    Can you tell us what it has to do with?
    Has he been complaining long about this?
    Is it his left arm or his right arm?
    Do you know when this happened?
    What do you think it might be?
    Will this affect the rotation?
    Are you thinking of shutting him down?
    Did he complain to you about it?
    How did you find out about it?
    If you shut him down who will start in his place?
    Has this been going on long?
    Do you think this affected his performance?
    Do you think it could be something serious?

    And that’s just the beginning.

    Man I give huge credit to Girardi and anyone else that has to deal with the sweet NY media!

    :)

  62. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption September 26th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Oh and Trisha, the fact that a herd of people don’t care when a guy lies to them doesn’t exactly prove to me that I should enjoy it. You may be happy being force fed garbage, as is your right, but I certainly do not.

  63. Fran September 26th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    Obviously there is a disconnect between Cashman and Girardi which will need to be corrected if Cashman stays. I really think that the GM and Manager need to be on the same page. Cashman and Torre had a problem last year when Torre “spilled the Joba rules” and was not supposed to. So don’t know if the problem is Cashman or Girardi, but they do need to talk.

  64. PAT M September 26th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    We need to get Randy I the hell off The Cape….Still chucking high, hard & tight

  65. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 26th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    “Oh and Trisha, the fact that a herd of people don’t care when a guy lies to them doesn’t exactly prove to me that I should enjoy it. You may be happy being force fed garbage, as is your right, but I certainly do not.”

    Rob NY, I’m just tickled pink to be able to watch the games. Since I don’t make any decisions regarding the Yankees I truly don’t care what I’m told and what I’m not told. Truly I don’t. I like my life as uncomplicated as possible. And armchair GM has never appealed to me either! So I don’t have to be making armchair decisions on who should be sent up, who should be sent away, and when the Yankees need to give me information!

    I’m a happy camper.

    I can respect it if you are not.

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