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Pettitte thinking it over

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Sep 29, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Andy Pettitte stopped by for a few minutes. While Joe Girardi has said he thinks the lefty will be back, Pettitte is not ready to say that quite yet.

“I need to get away and weigh some things over,” he said. “I know what I want to do and what I’m expected to do but I don’t know whether I can do it.”

Pettitte said his wife and kids have “fallen back in love with New York” and their life in Westchester. It seems pretty obvious that he will return for 2009.

When asked about Mike Mussina, Pettitte said that he and the Moose have spoken but he thinks that it’s only right that Mussina announce his intentions.

A few minutes later, Pettitte said that Moose “is strong-willed” and that if anybody could walk away after going 20-9, it’s him.

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283 Responses to “Pettitte thinking it over”

  1. stuart September 29th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    again it is not a crime to walk away on top like Moose.

    he is a HOF pitcher… 115 games above 500.

    cc, joba, wang, pettitte, and hughes there rotation not bad….

  2. ant928 September 29th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    Bye Moose…was a H*ll of a time!

  3. mel September 29th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    Huh?

    Sounds like Andy back, Moose isn’t.

    Or was that last bit misdirection?

    Everyone has the right to change their mind, too.

    After being away for a month, an old ballplayer might still feel that pull.

  4. Patrick September 29th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    CC, Wang, Burnett, Pettitte, Chamberlain

    Hughes, Kennedy, Aceves waiting in the wings

    Not bad!

  5. #9 September 29th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Gotcha Pete ;-)

  6. SJ44 September 29th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    I agree Stuart.

    Like Moose said, if he is in for one, he’s in for three and that’s why I think he will retire.

    Seeing all the momentos he has been compiling after his outings this year is another tipoff. Very few players do that and come back.

    He’s a very smart guy and I think he knows he doesn’t have three more years in him.

    He will be missed, However, its nice to see him go out on top. Its fitting for a guy who went about his business the right (ie: no PED’s) way.

    Andy? I agree with Pete. I think he’s coming back and if he is healthy, he can still pitch effectively.

    As with all older pitchers, its about health.

    A full off-season to train, rather than dealing with the Clemens mess, may be just what he needs to hold up over a full season.

  7. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 29th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    SJ44 –

    What would be your take on the Marlins are having another firesale? Jorge Cantu would be a 1B replacement. The Rays just gave up on him too early last year.

  8. Betsy September 29th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    According to Michael Kay, the Mets fans booed Al Leiter at the closing ceremonies yesterday because he was a Yankee at one point. Kay says Leiter is very sensitive and thinks he is probably crushed. My heart is breaking for Al now – wow, that is really low. That would explain the fans’ hatred of Willie, no question, but that was always obvious to me. Al was a terrific pitcher for the Mets and a good man; how can he be booed? Poor guy.

    Back to the coaching staff issue, as I posted in the other thread, Joe must be clueless if he thinks the GM (Cash or whomever) isn’t going to make some changes. I really do like Joe, but shutting out the rest of his staff in favor of his pets, pets I might add that did not help and very likely actually hurt the team, is not acceptable.

  9. RonH September 29th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    Pete, seems like that was Andy’s message to you that Moose is done. Sad, but nice to know he got 20 and will go out successfully not simply hanging on like so many older vets do.

    Anxiously waiting for news from Brian Cashman!

  10. Jeremy September 29th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    Last season Pettitte needed so much time to think things over that he let his option lapse and had to negotiate a new contract. Now he has his mind made up right after the season ends? I doubt it. He might have fallen back in love with New York but he can fall back in love with the offseason too.

    I think he will return, but he will vacillate and we won’t know for sure for a long time. I can’t blame him, of course.

    Moose will decide to return as well, right after the Steinbrenners unload a dump truck full of $100 bills next to the flagpole in his yard.

  11. TROLL BUSTER September 29th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    I love that his family have “fallen back in love with New York”.

    Andy, You live in Texas dude. You’re family would love Kazakhstan if you happened to play there. Tell us you’re shoulder’s going to be OK and here’s the ball.

  12. 213 Area Code September 29th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    I for one want #46 back, not just for 25+ starts he’ll make in ’09 but for the influence that he can have on Joba, Franchise & the other young starters.
    As for Moose, I only warmed to him this year (mostly because of the ‘behind the scenes’ look at the individual that this Blog provided). I’d have to agree with those who’ve stated that leaving now, after 20-9 with the 270 W’s will look a whole lot better to posterity than will middling W totals over the next 3 years (& whoa be unto him if he falls short of the 30 he needs for the next plateau). Vaya con Dios amigo.

  13. Jeremy September 29th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    “the Mets fans booed Al Leiter at the closing ceremonies yesterday because he was a Yankee at one point.”

    That would be like Mets fans booing Andy Phillips when he was on their team. What’s the point?

  14. SJ44 September 29th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    I think the Marlins are going to keep Cantu and move him to first base. Dallas McPherson will probably be the third baaseman for the Marlins next year.

    Jacobs, Hermida, Gregg, Olson and perhaps Uggla, seem more likely to be going this off-season than Cantu.

  15. Tint September 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Pettitte scared me every time he came onto the mound last year.

    I really don’t think he has it anymore.

    I would not mind seeing him walk away before next year.

  16. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Jacobs, Hermida, Gregg, Olson and perhaps Uggla, seem more likely to be going this off-season than Cantu.

    unfortunely Jacobs can’t perform under clutch situations.

  17. FergsKU September 29th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Anyone find it ironic that Moose wins 20 and neither Ian or Phil won a single game? Supposedly this was the year the “kids” made a major impact.

  18. BRONXBYTE September 29th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    How soon the team moves to sign Sabathia and others determines how the rest of the starting staff shapes.
    Last year Pettitte waited to see how the Santana negotiations went before making his move.
    He may do the same this year if C.C. is not signed knowing the team would lack a lefthanded starter.
    Mussina may do the same. Never again will this team hand out rotation spots in spring training such as the Hughes – Kennedy mistake of this year.
    Pettitte and Mussina are protection.

  19. Redding September 29th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Is there a better 3B coach out there we are missing? Bowa is not coming back.

    And Thompson was Cashman’s decision in the first place, BTW. So it’s his fault he didn’t give Joe an experienced bench coach. Long, Pena, and Eliand were also the guys Cashman retained from Torre’s bench.

    Shake up the coaching staff if you want, won’t do much though. Stop looking for a scapegoat and go out and improve the team in the FA market/trade market.

  20. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 29th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    How soon the team moves to sign Sabathia and others determines how the rest of the starting staff shapes.

    how soon? as soon as the World Series is over.

  21. raymagnetic September 29th, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    Tint,

    Did Pettitte scare you during the first half of the year when he was pitching well? To say he scared you every time he took the ball is a bit melodramatic, no?

  22. T15D23 September 29th, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    Glad to hear that Andy might come back and I see no issues with having a club option year to year for Moose.

    No doubt that Andy has pitched hurt this year, much like Jeter played hurt for most of the year, so get some rest and come back and play hard. Having a rotation that features Wang, Pettitte and Moose, healthy and for a whole season would be great. Who is #4 and #5 is the question (Joba needs to stay in the bullpen, sorry), so we need to round that out.

    Between Wang’s shorten season and Pettitte and Moose they won 44 games. Would like to see us go another season with them in the rotation. Please no AJ Burnett.

  23. X-Mann September 29th, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    FergSKU,

    That is why the rebuilding year was an utter failure. If we lost but Hughes and Kennedy showed us something, Joba stayed healthy, and we brought up Jackson, Sanchez, Melancon, Horne, and lost with the kids, that would be one thing.

    We lost with Rasner, Ponson, and Pudge Rodriguez. No progress was made with any of the kids. Hughes has regressed. Kennedy is a fraud. Gardner didn’t really establish himself one way. We lost with the old vets and journeymen. So essentially, next year is the real rebuilding year.

  24. Hoosier Yankee September 29th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Here is my two cents for what it is worth (probably 2 cents, hence the term)

    Unfortunately of the two veteran pitchers the one that should come back won’t (Moose) and the one that should retire won’t (Pettite). I was extremely skeptical of Moose after 2007 and was hoping the Yanks would dump but he reinvented himself and his regard speaks for itself.

    I was hoping, wishing, praying Andy would come back after 2007, we needed him. He didn’t reinvent himself when he lost velocity and location with his cutter. His record speaks for itself. I like Andy, always have, always will, but IMO he is finished as a pitcher. Of course I said the same thing last year about Moose, so here is hoping Andy proves me wrong, but I feel more right about Andy. He did not have the ability this year to avoid the big inning, get the last strike on a batter, nor go very deep.

    Mets fans: classless like their organization. They will always feel like the snubbed fat sister (Mets) of the hot chick (Yanks). No matter how smart, funny, rich, or whatever she is, she won’t be as good as her hot sister. The Wilpons are foolish for hiring Minaya and Manuel back and i am more glad they missed the playoffs than the Red Sox (can’t believe I just wrote that).

  25. Garym September 29th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    Im sorry but i think you replace meacham with Randolph and I really think Long probably needs to go, it is the players but at the same time there approach was horrible. I think Girardi needs more role players to do what he does best,small ball. They have to start with pitching then worry about other areas such as 1b.

  26. jhonny Blanchard September 29th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Why in the world would the Yankees want Petitte to come back? Why? didnt they have enough last year with inconsistent starters?

  27. pat September 29th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Randolph was as bad a 3rd base coach as Meachem. If you are going to make a change at least make it an upgrade.

  28. yankees will return September 29th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    Today I read a qoute from a Yankee not sure who, who said too bad the season is ended as they have been red hot of late. No question on that, they finished up strong,but does anyone think its a bad sign that the really performed up to their potential once they were out of contention? Does that alarm anyone? that maybe they have too many players who cannot play in this high pressure market?

  29. Miggs (All in for Moose's quest for 20) September 29th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Wow it really does sound like Moose is done.

    Maybe a month away will change his thinking.

  30. Miggs September 29th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    I guess I can remove my headline now…….

  31. JohnC September 29th, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    Listening to Michael Kay, he said that word is alot of NL clubs hate the Mets cause they feel they are so full of themselves for a team that hasn’t won anything is a long time. Mike Lupica was on and clarified that it is not the Mets as a team that they hate, but it is their shortstop, which we all could guess. He is such a showboating hot dog that he infuriates and fires up the opposing team. Thats why the marlins wanted so badly to end the mets season again, because they hate Reyes and his antics. Reyes, for all his talent, will never be in a class with Jeter.

  32. Christina September 29th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    That was so distasteful what the Mets fan did to Leiter. he had some of his best years as a met, and if they cant remember, he did help lead them to the 2000 world series; having a great year. Al is a humble guy too which shows howw classless those fans are.

  33. arod and Reyes September 29th, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Reyes is to the Mets as Arod is to the Yankees. Of course Reyes is not as good, but he hurts the Mets, and Arod while is very professional and not cocky he kills the Yanks in the clutch. I heard all over the radio today how bad D Wright was with RISP and I`ll bet Arod was worse for the Yanks this year

  34. bdog375 September 29th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    Pettite is just make it seem as if he might not come back so he can get a few more cents when sigining, which is smart. I think he will be much better next year b/c he did not have the proper conditioning this year. Normally he is real strong in the second half, but this year his body was too weak to make it through the season.

  35. Donnie 23 September 29th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    am I the only one here that does not believe CC will sign with the Yankees? Sure, he’s a great pitcher and he’d definitely solidify our starting rotation. However, the only way I see CC signing with the Yanks is if they air drop a cargo of cash on his estate. His payday would have to be significantly higher than than playing close to home and/or staying in the NL. I just don’t see our rotation consisting of CC or CC AND Burnett. Again, I hope I am wrong!

  36. 86w183 September 29th, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    X-Mann—- This was not a rebuilding year. If it was, the Yankees would not have retained Pettite, Abreu, Rivera or Posada. In fact, they would have let ARod walk, too.

    They would have been a 65-75 win team, but they still would have used re-treads rather than rush even more guys to the majors too soon.

    This is what I would call a transitional year. Try to stay competitive and retain your core while not making expensive long term commitments to newcomers. They did this because the Yankees and their fans could never tolerate a full “blow it up and start over” process.

    The second phase of this transition is this off season where the Yankees will target only FA all-stars in their prime and trades for guys like that or younger. Should Pettite and/or Mussina return on one year contracts they join Matsui and Damon on guys clearing up space after ’09. That could also apply to Nady and Marte.

    Remaking a baseball team is alot like making sausage The process is not attractive, but what matters is the result.

  37. DOC September 29th, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    I think everyone is putting too much stock into what Mussina has said/indicated at the very end of a long season. Everyone should give him two months before we officially pronounce him retired. How many times has Andy indicated that he wanted to retire to be with his family and then didn’t? I’m sure that at this very moment, Moose is leaning toward retirement, but after he puts everything in perspective, he might feel very differently about chasing 300.

  38. MooseCall September 29th, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    Do we really want Pettitte back? He was mediocre overall, and awful in the second half. Time to let him go!

  39. CG September 29th, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    Why do we get stuck with bringing Pettite back for 18 million when he was just a tad better than mediocre, and are going to lose Mussina who actually won alot of good games for us.

    If Pettite was a true Yankee, he would retire and let us spend that 18 Million elsewhere, on say, maybe a good YOUNG pitcher?

  40. tterba September 29th, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    See ya Moose… I’ve never been a big fan… don’t let the door hit ya on the way out… the year the team tanks, he gets 20 wins… It was never in the cards for the Yanks since he got here…. LIFT THE CURSE OF THE MOOSE

  41. bru September 29th, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    i don’t see the yankees giving mussina 3 yrs.maybe 1 with an option.
    that is why he is probably done with the yankees.

    he said he would play for a few selected teams close to his home with boston being one team.

    the yankees should try to add sabathia,another solid pitcher not nearly as expensive,maybe dempster and try and put a nice package together for billingsley even if it takes cano.

    rotation of sabathia,wang,dempster,billingsley,pettitte/hughes/aceves for the 5th spot and put joba in the pen.

    with a bullpen like that the game is over by the 6th inning.

    coke,bruney,joba,mo plus melancon coming.that would be illegal.

    i would love joba to start but i am worried about injuries.

    i think they will be fine in center field with gardner for a year but they might wan;t to try and get a first baseman like cantu,votto,etc….. trade kennedy,aceves and maybe coke if needed.

    if they can sign a fa pitcher or two,trade for another young pitcher like billingsley and get a good first baseman they should be tough to beat.

    you also can make an argument for them keeping all the kids and signing one or two fa pitchers but i’d like to see a shakeup with the yankees concentrating on building a great pitching staff all the way through the bullpen.

  42. bru September 29th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    pettitte admitted to taking ped’s and this year he struggled.too much of a coincidence.i would pass on him.

    this team needs to go in an entirely new direction.

    why do they keep marching out the same old team every year?

    we need young guys!!!!

  43. bru September 29th, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    let me guess the met’s got eliminated on the last day of the season two years in a row because the rest of the league hates reyes? that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard.

  44. bru September 29th, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    pettitte made 16 million in 2008

  45. bru September 29th, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    becket made 10 million

  46. bru September 29th, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    kashmir made 8

  47. bru September 29th, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    pettitte needs to go. the yankees need to get younger.

    pass on sabathia and sign a few solid pitchers and trade cano for a young stud pitcher

  48. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing September 29th, 2008 at 7:01 pm

    “Reyes is to the Mets as Arod is to the Yankees. Of course Reyes is not as good, but he hurts the Mets, and Arod while is very professional and not cocky he kills the Yanks in the clutch. I heard all over the radio today how bad D Wright was with RISP and I`ll bet Arod was worse for the Yanks this year”

    Did you just pull this out of your butt, or do you have actual statistical *facts* to back it up?

  49. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing September 29th, 2008 at 7:03 pm

    “that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard.”

    Thats possibly only because you’re not on the receiving end of your posts.

  50. GreenBeret7 September 29th, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    It’s a little (or, maybe not so little) of people on this board/Yankee fans to slam Mets fans for booing Leiter, but, have no problem with booing players on your own team like Rodriguez and Cano this year, and Jeter, posada and Rivera in the past few years. Face facts, kiddies…you’re no better than the Mets fans in this respect.

  51. harwood September 29th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    NO MOOSE

    we need u :(

  52. GreenBeret7 September 29th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    ***It’s a little (or, maybe not so little) hypocritical of people on this board/Yankee fans***

  53. GreenBeret7 September 29th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    I think that Mussina may take a Pettitte type deal…one year and an option, and, if he doesn’t think he can make a serious run to 300 in his second year, then, he’d retire. He’s not going to pull an Early Wynn or Lefty Grove and hang ar

  54. GreenBeret7 September 29th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    I think that Mussina may take a Pettitte type deal…one year and an option, and, if he doesn’t think he can make a serious run to 300 in his second year, then, he’d retire. He’s not going to pull an Early Wynn or Lefty Grove and hang ar

  55. GreenBeret7 September 29th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    I think that Mussina may take a Pettitte type deal…one year and an option, and, if he doesn’t think he can make a serious run to 300 in his second year, then, he’d retire. He’s not going to pull an Early Wynn, Steve Carlton or Lefty Grove and hang around just for numbers.

  56. GreenBeret7 September 29th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    disregard the 2 duplicate partial posts

  57. nemo September 29th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    No Pettitte Please :(

  58. MoBoy(aka McLovin) September 29th, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    How is both Hughes and Joba in the rotation next year.Did you people learn anything this year.Hughes and Joba haven’t even got close to 100 innings in the majors in their career why are both gonna be in the rotation to start the season?

  59. Yankee Fan September 29th, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    I am a avid yankee fan. Where would the Yankees have been if Mike Mussina wasn’t there? 20 more games lost? I sincerely hope Mike returns for another year or two, and also Pettitte.

  60. CanIGetAMooseCall September 30th, 2008 at 12:48 am

    “Hughes and Joba haven’t even got close to 100 innings in the majors in their career”

    Wrong. Joba pitched 100 this year.

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