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Girardi thrilled that Cashman is back

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Sep 30, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Just spoke to Joe Girardi, who was nice enough to return a call a few hours after he arrived home in Florida. Until he landed, he didn’t know for sure that Brian Cashman would return as GM.

“I found out around 5 o’clock,” he said. “I was thrilled.”

Girardi said having Cashman back at GM was a huge relief. “I think we worked well together and we share a vision for how this organization should move forward. I mean, he hired me as the manager. I wanted him to be there.”

Girardi said the organizational meetings would likely begin in Tampa in the middle of next month.

“Brian sounded excited when we talked. He wants to get started on doing what we need to do and I’m right there with him,” Girardi said. “I’m looking forward to seeing what we do. This was the first order of business and it worked out well.”

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740 Responses to “Girardi thrilled that Cashman is back”

  1. Clint September 30th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    I’d sign Pudge to a 2 yr/$14 million doller deal to play 1st base if he’s open to that.

  2. you gotta have faith (well, theres always next year...)(MOOSE FOR PRESIDENT!) September 30th, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    lol clint

    please tell me you were joking!

  3. RalphieD September 30th, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    id love to be a fly on the walls of those meetings

  4. JoeT 28 in 09.... So glad that I made it to the stadium from FL this year!! September 30th, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    That’s why Cashman is the GM and not you Clint lol

    It really is awesome though that we knew Cashman was the GM before Girardi did – awesome work as always Pete!!

  5. Bill September 30th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    What has Cashman done to deserve this?! He is an awful GM!

  6. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    I mean, he hired me as the manager. I wanted him to be there.”

    Heh. If only we got this honesty during the season.

  7. JoeT 28 in 09.... So glad that I made it to the stadium from FL this year!! September 30th, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    Bill – I definitely would prefer a baseball guy as the GM. As long as Cashman listens to his advisers he’ll be good though. I really think that Girardi has told Cashman exactly what he wants to do with this team though. Cash can handle the rest…. We’ll see how it works out

  8. E-Rod September 30th, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    Girardi knows that if Cashman had left and Buck had come in, he would be on shaky ground. If we got off to a slow start, Buck would fire Girardi and name himself manager AND GM.

  9. Bill September 30th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    JoeT – The Yankees have gotten worse every season that Cashman has been in charge.

    Look at these rediculous signings…

    Randy Johnson
    Kevin Brown
    Kei Igawa
    Carl Pavano
    Jaret Wright
    Clemens (second time)
    Kyle Farnsworth
    Javier Vazquez
    Jeff Weaver

    And thats just the pitchers!!!

    Not to mention blowing the deal on Santana, and also wanting Giambi instead of Ortiz.

    Cashman took a dynasty and ran them into the ground.

  10. Bronx Jeers September 30th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    This is already starting to feel like last year when we were all thrilled just to have the same old guys return.

    2008 big signings:

    ARod- oy vey
    Posada- 4 years?!
    Pettite – alright
    Mo- Whew

    2009

    Pettite- Order an extra ice machine.
    Abreu – Pad those walls!!
    Marte- Lets take the Pepsi challenge on that
    Giambi – for comic relief and to pick up the tab

  11. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    …Holy John Danks, Batman

  12. Bill September 30th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    Can we please get Stick Michael back in charge?

  13. you gotta have faith (well, theres always next year...)(MOOSE FOR PRESIDENT!) September 30th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    this “playoff” game is boringgggg lol

  14. NITRO September 30th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    Has anyone ever thrown a no hitter in a one game playoff game?

    Danks will tonight. His stuff is just nasty.

  15. harwood September 30th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    “Marte- Lets take the Pepsi challenge on that”

    That was funny but I have higher hopes for Coke.

  16. vtred September 30th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    Stick wanted Santana, he knew what he was talking about. Next time Cashman should listen to him. He built the dynasty while Cashman was standing on the sidelines.

  17. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Hmmm alot of people reposting in this thread. We get it you hate Cashman now move on. If Cash signs CC everyone in here will be singing his praises and calling for his contract extension.

  18. filthy slider September 30th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    The meetings start in the middle of next month, the meetings would have started today if George was still alive.

  19. vinny-b (jerry manuel says "Brett Favre is gangsta!" September 30th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    wonderful to know.

    thank you for the update, pete.

  20. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    Uh, George is still alive.

    Unless you know something that all the eat writers, and ESPN have missed.

  21. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    Bill, without going over your entire list, Randy Johnson and Jason Giambi were totally George Steinbrenner. So if you’re going to be down on Cashman, make sure you’re down on him for the right reasons.

    P.S. to anyone else who thinks Brian is a mistake – he was around for the four world championships also.

  22. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    Monday morning quarterbacking is always a breeze.

    That, and nobody has ANY way to know how Santana would have performed. As someone aptly pointed out today, the Mets had Santana and they’re not in the postseason either.

    Just my opinion.

    GO TWINS!

  23. R-Tek September 30th, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    If Cashman doesn’t get CC or AJ/Teixeria, there is going to be an awful lot of unhappy Yankee fans.

    His hair is already gray from the stress Hank gave him, he can tolerate a little more barking.

  24. Bronx Jeers September 30th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    What is more shocking?

    Cashman’s announcement on thew 2nd day or the fact that Girardi returned Petes call?

  25. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    Johan wouldn’t have saved this team from its lack of clutch hitting. If you need proof look at the Mets he couldn’t help David Wright hit a fly ball with a runner on third. A great pitcher can only win the games in which he pitches. Unless Johan is also a cleanup hitter who hits in the clutch as well his contributions wouldn’t have mattered

  26. patrick max September 30th, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    i really thinks Danks will get the no hitter

  27. James 3D September 30th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    Al,

    If we miss out on CC, passing on Santana is going to look even more devastating. And now that Joba’s shoulder is giving him problems, you have no idea what will happen to him next year. Plus Mussina is probably going to retire. Where are we going to get our ace from? Hell, where are we going to get pitching from? Another year of Wang and pray for rain?

  28. On the road September 30th, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Bill
    September 30th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
    What has Cashman done to deserve this?! He is an awful GM!

    This is a ridiculous comment. He does everything we ask of him. We want the big name, he gets it. We want to go younger, he does it. He is a great GM and i am glad he came back.

  29. randy l September 30th, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    just an aside but from what i’ve heard over the years,don cooper, the white sox pitching coach, would kill to be the yankee pitching coach.

    that collision at home was twins baseball. it took a perfect throw to get him, and the runner just hammered the catcher. good play all around.

  30. harwood September 30th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    Not trading for Santana could still be Cashmans greatest move.

  31. t-rock September 30th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    I have no problem trading Alfred E. Newman this off-season for some pitching or position help.

  32. The Future September 30th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    Cash does what the Steinbrenners wanted. He didnt want A-Rod. Hank did.

  33. Y26 September 30th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    Exactly.

    Hank/Hal overruled Cashman on A-Rod, Posada, Rivera, and Torre.

    They can overrule him anytime.

  34. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Burnett wants to play for the Yankees. Yankees could do worse. So there’s one potential FA. I believe Hughes will be ready for the rotation (my opinion based on watching him). There are three potential members of the rotation. We’re not sure about Joba and won’t be, though “conventional wisdom” believed that with the Yankees out of the running he didn’t see any need to blow out his arm. And don’t forget he was checked by the best, and we all know the diagnosis.

    Is it possible the Yankees will give Aceves a look-see?

    There’s plenty of time to figure out the rotation. I wouldn’t panic at this point.

    I also believe the Yankee players are going to come out with a different attitude. I think they had come to believe that making the playoffs was an automatic. Perhaps this is just what they needed to fire them up again.

  35. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    “Al,

    If we miss out on CC, passing on Santana is going to look even more devastating. And now that Joba’s shoulder is giving him problems, you have no idea what will happen to him next year. Plus Mussina is probably going to retire. Where are we going to get our ace from? Hell, where are we going to get pitching from? Another year of Wang and pray for rain?”

    Obviously I was for the Santana trade and when it didn’t happen I was upset. However giving up Phil Hughes who is still going to be a decent pitcher for Santana who regardless of what “experts” say has experienced a drop in velocity and overall dominance a long with 150 million would have been too much. If CC is signed this all become a non issue if he doesn’t then things get ugly. However at this point in their careers I’d rather have CC over Santana and I think waiting a year for CC will have been worth it if Cash can seal the deal.

  36. RalphieD September 30th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    i like cash…no problem with him…seems like too many people dont like him just because they can…cause you know, if you bash the gm it makes you feel better as a “fan”…and please stop whining about not getting santana, it got old 6 months ago

  37. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    “I have no problem trading Alfred E. Newman this off-season for some pitching or position help.”

    t-rock, do you think we could get anything for him? I’d be all for that too.

  38. randy l September 30th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    span can fly. this could be interesting.

  39. vinny-b (jerry manuel says "Brett Favre is gangsta!" September 30th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    y26: I believe Cashman wasn’t too attached, to the idea of Torre returning.

    don’t have any proof, tho.

  40. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    Fast game.

  41. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    I listened to Mattingly on WFAN and he sounded so sad about not getting picked as Yankees coach. In hindsight I think the Yanks should have made the obvious choice and picked Donnie. The players aren’t responding well to Girardi IMO.

  42. Davey Dave The Seagull Slayer September 30th, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    “I believe Hughes will be ready for the rotation (my opinion based on watching him).”

    On which one of his 2 starts are you basing this on because I know you’re not talking about his April work.

  43. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    As someone who can always find a positive in just about every situation, the positive in our not being in the postseason, for me personally, is that I can actually concentrate on the games with a detached interest! No nervousness, no anxiety.

    :)

    GO TWINKIES!

  44. vinny-b (jerry manuel says "Brett Favre is gangsta!" September 30th, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    eckersley = crazy man

  45. Davey Dave The Seagull Slayer September 30th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    I am also glad the Yankess did not make the playoffs as now i can work on my needlepoint!

    I get a similar joy every time I lose the lottery. No expensive accountant fees to pay!

  46. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    Davey, well certainly I can look at the way he pitched those two games for the Yankees as a marked improvement over the way he had pitched earlier, but then we found out he had an injury so how much should we pay attention to those earlier starts?

    I think Hughes has tremendous stuff plus a tremendous work ethic and a ton of maturity. So I just have a feeling that he will be ready to make the rotation is all.

  47. t-rock September 30th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    trisha,

    Doubt it— what team would want Alfred? The guy hasn’t shown is a ML caliber pitcher. He is already 24 and was reputed to be very polished and ML ready without must time needed to adjust. He was a guy who had superior control and a finished product. The fact that he struggled so much when he came up shows how much he sucks. He had no control, no out pitch, nothing.

  48. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Time to move on:
    Girardi is the manager, Cashman the GM. George was the one who pushed for many of the players:
    Giambi-then George said let’s get Ortiz-Cashman had to remind him we just signed Giambi for 1B/DH
    George wanted Sheffield/Cash and Torre-Vlad
    George always wanted Randy Johnson.

    The Yankees are moving in the right direction to compete in the AL East-Two quality FA pitchers would be a start, then consider trading some of your minor league pitching talent for young athletic position players.

  49. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Davey, I didn’t say you had to share my feelings and experiences. Some people have bitter disappointment they haven’t yet gotten over, others were over it quickly since elimination came as no surprise. To each her or his own.

  50. Alfred E. Kennedy September 30th, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    You guys will be lucky to get a backup catcher for Kennedy…

    Atleast he has a career at Mad Magazine when he realizes he isin’t very good at baseball.

  51. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    t-rock

    He is pretty dismal!

    :D

  52. Bam Bam Balboni September 30th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Do people not realize that the Santana deal was not a 1 year deal…why don’t we give it a few years and see how it all unfolds

  53. vinny-b (jerry manuel says "Brett Favre is gangsta!" September 30th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    “Alfred E. Kennedy
    September 30th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
    You guys will be lucky to get a backup catcher for Kennedy…
    Atleast he has a career at Mad Magazine when he realizes he isin’t very good at baseball”

    not able to disagree.

  54. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Yankee Trader – good post.

  55. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    In my mind I so called that.

  56. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 30th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    1-0, White Sox

  57. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    Dang!

    I’m gonna feel so bad for the Twins if they lose this game.

  58. vinny-b (jerry manuel says "Brett Favre is gangsta!" September 30th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    don’t care what anyone say. TBS = excellent coverage/camerawork

    it feels like you at the game.

  59. Alfred E. Kennedy September 30th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Did Kennedy hold a press conference at the end of the season to tell us how he had a terrific year and had filthy stuff in the big leagues?

  60. dave September 30th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    YEA CASH HAS A JOB TO FINISH, WE FINISHED IN THIRD PLACE THIS YR. When he is done with us, we will be in dead last.

    WORST MOVE EVER!!!!!

    Will everyone please stop with the whooole every mistake made under cashman had someone else pulling the strings? Is the guy untouchable? Somehow being in the organization as some assistant during the yrs we were building a dynasty, had something to do with him. But since cash has been made the GM, fans blame all his mistakes on everybody but cashman. Im sick of it – everything we did last yr is on cashmans head ALL OF IT. He has the power. No more oooh but the steinbrenners made him do it. BY THE END OF THESE 3 YRS, We will have went from a dynasty to a lauching stock with this moron at the helm. I hope he is forced into making group decisions with ppl that actually know baseball.

  61. NITRO September 30th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Damnit. Twins aren’t scoring off Jenks.

    Go Rays.

  62. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    I know he played in Texas and hes a head case but Milton Bradley could play 1B or corner outfield.

  63. Betsy September 30th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Needless to say, I’m thrilled Brian is back; I only hope that he was honest with Hank and aired out whatever problems he may have had with him so that we can start with a clean slate and Cash can get back to running the team instead of having to put out stupid brush fires.

    I missed Michael Kay with Buster Olney; can anyone summarize? Did they mention AJ Burnett and where he may go?

    thanks!

  64. RalphieD September 30th, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    thome knocked the fruit punch outta that one

  65. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 30th, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    Rebecca –

    You would believe Thome would want to revenge for his 3rd strike call at his last at bat. I knew he would blast it out too.

  66. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    “Did Kennedy hold a press conference at the end of the season to tell us how he had a terrific year and had filthy stuff in the big leagues?”

    :lol:

    vinny-b, definitely agree about TBS.

  67. Trevor September 30th, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    “I listened to Mattingly on WFAN and he sounded so sad about not getting picked as Yankees coach”

    He was offered the bench coach job by Girardi but turned it down.

  68. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 30th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    AL -

    Milton can’t play 1B and isn’t one. He’s an outfielder.

  69. Bronx Jeers September 30th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Trisha,

    I really want Hughes to thrive. And as a NY Yankee. It’s just that his most impressive work in the bigs was his playoff appearance last fall when he came in and saved the day for The Rockette. But even that high pressure achievement did not translate. In reality it is not his glimpses of success that is going to make Hughes realize his potential but rather his ability to overcome his failures. He seemed to be heading in the right direction with the late work you mention but he’s very far from the finish line. Then again he is so very young and has a lot of time. It’s critical for the Yankees to not have to rely on him next season. As everybody pretty much agrees here, The Yanks made a MAJOR error in judgement by penciling in those 2 guys for the rotation with no parachute.

  70. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Trisha-

    Thanks. I know you want Abreu back, and except for walks, and base stealing efficiency, he overall was better than in 2007, but he also came into camp in better shape in a contract year. I think his best position going forward is DH, and right now we have a DH in Matsui and possibly Damon plus Posada on occassion.

    On the fence about Abreu who will want a 3 year contract when players such as Bay, Holliday, Crawford, Ankiel, possibly Ordonez and Dye are coming up in 2010.

  71. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    “YEA CASH HAS A JOB TO FINISH, WE FINISHED IN THIRD PLACE THIS YR. When he is done with us, we will be in dead last.

    WORST MOVE EVER!!!!!

    Will everyone please stop with the whooole every mistake made under cashman had someone else pulling the strings? Is the guy untouchable? Somehow being in the organization as some assistant during the yrs we were building a dynasty, had something to do with him. But since cash has been made the GM, fans blame all his mistakes on everybody but cashman. Im sick of it – everything we did last yr is on cashmans head ALL OF IT. He has the power. No more oooh but the steinbrenners made him do it. BY THE END OF THESE 3 YRS, We will have went from a dynasty to a lauching stock with this moron at the helm. I hope he is forced into making group decisions with ppl that actually know baseball.”

    Gee, this is what missing the playoffs does to some people.

  72. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 30th, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    Yankee Trader –

    earlier, AL from BK and I were discussing that Cashman should talk to Mark Sharpio about trading for Ryan Garko. Kelly Shoppach had emerged as an everyday catch, and V-Mart might shift to 1B. Although Garko doesn’t put up numbers like Giambi does but he has a decent batting average and a soild defender. Giambi makes him look like a gold glover. Agree?

  73. Bronx Jeers September 30th, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    if they can just convince Ian to change his name to something like Iandro Kenedaria maybe we can dump on Omar?

  74. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    “AL -

    Milton can’t play 1B and isn’t one. He’s an outfielder.”

    I know that just throwing out suggestions Ed.

  75. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 30th, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    AL -

    Lol ok…I still don’t get why could he pull a hamstring while arguing with the 1B umpire last season?

  76. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    “if they can just convince Ian to change his name to something like Iandro Kenedaria maybe we can dump on Omar?”

    Omar would do it without even looking at a scouting report!

  77. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    “AL -

    Lol ok…I still don’t get why could he pull a hamstring while arguing with the 1B umpire last season?”

    lol I dunno. Actually he tore his ACL which is even more severe.

  78. ÆŽR (The Final Season) September 30th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Game over. White S*x win.

  79. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and save Robbie Cano! September 30th, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    This is some game

  80. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    Go Twinkies!

  81. NITRO September 30th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Betsy,

    Mostly Mets stuff but Olney thinks CC will go to the Angels. Though he does think we are going to have the best offer. Also thinks we will be in on Derek Lowe for 18 million per year for a 3 year deal. Didn’t mention us with Burnett, said he would be next in the pecking order after CC. Said we may poke around Manny Ramirez if he takes a short term deal for a lot of money rather than a 4 year deal. He stressed that we will be aggressive this off-season perusing free agents to try and rectify this season.

  82. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Ed and AL-

    What would you be willing to give up for Garko, who’s signed for

  83. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    “Said we may poke around Manny Ramirez if he takes a short term deal for a lot of money rather than a 4 year deal.”

    This alone convinces me Olney has lost a few miles per hour.

  84. GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Yankee Trader
    September 30th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
    Trisha-

    Thanks. I know you want Abreu back, and except for walks, and base stealing efficiency, he overall was better than in 2007, but he also came into camp in better shape in a contract year. I think his best position going forward is DH, and right now we have a DH in Matsui and possibly Damon plus Posada on occassion.

    On the fence about Abreu who will want a 3 year contract when players such as Bay, Holliday, Crawford, Ankiel, possibly Ordonez and Dye are coming up in 2010.

    _________________________________________________

    Nobody complained about Jeter’s base running last year when he was being picked off base and going 15-8 in steals, or this year when he was 11-5. why complain about Abreu’s who was no worse?

    Have you or anyone paid attention to Ordonez playing right field this year? He’s worse than you say Abreu is and so is Guerrero. Milton is no longer an outfielder…he’s a DH. between the hamstring and groin pulls, bulky knee and bulkier attitude, he’s not worth the trouble.

  85. brillohead September 30th, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Cashman is back. Well thats good and bad. Just recently he passed on Tori Hunter, Santana, and over rated all his prospects. He had one of the worst benches the team has ever had, and as far as minor league postion players he came up totally empty. Only Gardner has some promise if he can learn to hit. His pitchers in the minors are all thesame types, average fastballs, with location issues that need to be perfect with location to succeed.
    He fails to realize that if a guy hits 330 in the NL that he probably will not hit anywhere near 330 in the AL east. He also hired the wrong manager for this year as well. His money management has been weak, with the most $$$ to spend he bought very little value.
    On the positive side, not sure it makes sense to make any major moves with the ownership going through changes as well. Hopefully Cash will realize his mistakes, or get help when he evaluates pitchers, and perhaps he understands that other than the NL superstars, that anyone he takes fro the NL is not going to replicate those stats in the AL East.

  86. AJ YANKS September 30th, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    He didn’t even talk with Hank—- Newsday said Hal was the one who negotiated the deal.

    Brian will have full autonomy but understands Hank/Hal can overrule him at anytime like they did for A-Rod, Posada, and MO.

  87. Tom September 30th, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    “Gee, this is what missing the playoffs does to some people”

    You said a mouthfull there sir.

    Cashman’s not perfect, and he has made mistakes; however, this team did win 89 games–good enough for the 4th best record in the al.

    This team is not that far off—if and only if Cashman’s plan is successful. Time will tell.

    By the way this is the first time in 26 years the Brewers have been in the Post-Season. 26. I was Two when they last made the show. Cashman has overseen and ran the day to day goings on of a team that has been to the playoffs 10 years in a row–making the world series 5 times winning 3. I think its safe to say Cashman earned this contract

  88. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Ed and Al-
    Let’s try that again.

    Don’t think Garko will be available, as Martinez was hurt most of the year and had no power.

    Look at Garrett Atkins, converted 1st baseman playing 3rd for Rockies. Ian Stewart to take over 3rd and Helton at 1st.
    Might he be available?

  89. TeKNeticK September 30th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Hal = James Dolan. Doesn’t care about winning and only wants to sell seats. Has blind faith in a GM with a flawed plan, eerie similar to Dolan’s trust in Isiah.

    This off-season will dictate the long term future of this franchise. Time to see if Hal is as committed as George and if the Yankees still stand for winning at all costs.

  90. EY September 30th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Can we say, “Stay the course”? :D

    I am thrilled that Cash is coming back.

  91. george September 30th, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    Olney also said that the 2 L.A. teams were unlikely to chase Sabathia in terms of financially competing w/the Yanks. he did speculate about perhaps S.F. But he didn’t seem to have any real basis for his opinion.

    let’s see if Sabathia cares about his geographical location if there is a $50 million difference in offers.

  92. Tom September 30th, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    Anybody who missed Olney on Kay’s show here’s the link to audio: http://stations.espn.go.com/st.....owId=mkay1

  93. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    “Ed and AL-

    What would you be willing to give up for Garko, who’s signed for”

    It isn’t as if Garko is a Cleveland core guy and he has become expendable if they choose to move Victor Martinez to 1B. I would say they might bite on a few mid level pitchers maybe even IPK.

  94. Ariel September 30th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Sorry guys, but most of the pundits think the Yankees will “sniff/poke” around Manny. He is ours if we him. But what do they know!!!

  95. Ariel September 30th, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    read “He is ours if we want him”

  96. bdog375 September 30th, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Man, Girardi never returns my calls. What’s your secret Pete?

  97. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    Manny would be an awful fit for NY.

  98. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    “Ed and Al-
    Let’s try that again.

    Don’t think Garko will be available, as Martinez was hurt most of the year and had no power.

    Look at Garrett Atkins, converted 1st baseman playing 3rd for Rockies. Ian Stewart to take over 3rd and Helton at 1st.
    Might he be available?”

    I would bite on Atkins, however not for an extensive package.

  99. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    The bottom line I am counting on is that they won’t want Manny. In fact I am so convinced of it that I will add that as number 5 to my prediction list.

    5. Yankees won’t go anywhere near Manny.

  100. GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    No way San Francisco is going to sink nearly 300 million dollars in two pitchers, when they aren’t drawing and have no offense past Winn and Molina.

  101. R-Tek September 30th, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Cashman is what he is…a mediocre GM.

    Some good, some bad. Overvalues kids, doesn’t have a great eye for talent, picks up scraps and tries to turn water into wine. Good reputation in the league, limited creativity, lacks fortitude to make bold moves. Smart guy, handles the NY media well. Has done nothing in 3 years, lets other teams outbid us for good players, too conservative. Players like him, solid at making trades.

    Sums him up well. Hal, like Cashman, lack creativity and didn’t have the guts to explore the market for another GM and didn’t know where to look. So, he took the safe choice.

  102. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 30th, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Yankee Trader –

    Garrett Atkins will be expensive, prospects wise. Plus, his away numbers is that great.

  103. Tom September 30th, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Yankee Trader

    Garret Atkins 3 year splits:

    Home: .345 ba, .407 obp. .948 ops
    Away: .270 ba, .346 obp. .792 ops

    coors field effect?

  104. NITRO September 30th, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Green, they can always shop Cain for a young position player if they sign CC.

  105. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    “Man, Girardi never returns my calls. What’s your secret Pete?”

    bgod375, it’s called “after the beating Girardi took from the press, he’s willing to do just about anything.” In fact I bet if you had his number and called and said you were a member of the press, he’d return your call too!

    :D

  106. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    “Manny would be an awful fit for NY.”

    Not so fast Becca. Short of Manny just giving up and not coming out to play what could go wrong. I am sure Manny would like to come home to NY and be the hero down here instead of the villain. Also don’t forget his “friend” A-Rod is here and Manny would more than make up for A-Rods no show nights in the clutch A-Rod Manny back to back would have other managers scratching their heads. Do I think it will happen not likely but it isn’t a terrible idea.

  107. brillohead September 30th, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    For Tom.

    Comparing the Brewers to the Yankees is lauhable. The Brewers GM would DIE for 1/12 of the Yankees payroll. The Brewers GM would love to have a draw for FA`s like NYC, the history, and tradition. Please, Cashman under achieved with the $$$ he has to play with every year. I also bet the Brewers GM would DIE for owners like the Steinbrenners who allow the GM the ability to pick up key parts whenever they are needed. Saying he “earned” it is over board.

  108. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    GB7
    “Nobody complained about Jeter’s baserunning last year when he was being picked off base and going 15-8 in steals.”

    No, you are right-they focused on his limited range and GIDP’s.
    The reality however is Jeter is not a FA, but the face of the franchise, who along with Rivera and Posada, better be on the phone this fall making calls to Sabathia to come to the Yankees!!

    All I said is I’m on the fence about Abreu, especially if it’s a 3 year guaranteed contract.

  109. randy l September 30th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    “Manny would be an awful fit for NY.”

    it’d be interesting with him hitting after arod.
    they’d be the best 3-4 hitters in baseball.
    something to think about.

  110. Jim Brown September 30th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    oh, and regarding the Brewers making the playoffs, if Baltimore was in the NL West or Central they`d be in too. That league is horrible

  111. AZ Four September 30th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    If Manny takes a short term deal, I’d do it.

    A-Rod is his best friend, he will be fine here.

  112. GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    NITRO
    September 30th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
    Green, they can always shop Cain for a young position player if they sign CC.

    ____________________________________________________

    They’re still not putting 300 million into Sabathia and Zito.

  113. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    i want this baseball game to end in the next five minutes so I can see all of SVU :-D

  114. brillohead September 30th, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    Randy, what I think it would do is take pressure off Arod. He no longer would be the top gun or best hitter on the team, that might make him produce more in clutch situations

  115. patrick max September 30th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    How did Phil Coke get such nasty stuff?

    He has better stuff than Hughes or Kennedy!

  116. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 30th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    the White Sox is going to the playoffs!!

    nice try Twins, you did made it this far without Hunter and Santana.

  117. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    Well, that’s *one* way to end the game.

    And yay! I can see all of SVU!

  118. vin September 30th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    All right Chi-Sox! I like they’re ability to beat Boston instead of Minny, if the need arises.

  119. bdog375 September 30th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    Everyone keeps talking about Manny. Don’t the Dodgers have a club option on him? I know it is high, but they have the money, and the opportunity to sign him to a 1 year deal is worth every penny for them. I do not see him hitting the market.

  120. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 30th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    Brian Anderson did saved the game with the nice catch.

  121. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    Al from BK – I think you are looking for another version of Manny that just doesn’t exist since he has always claimed his idiotic antics are just Manny being Manny.

    1. urinates in the outfield
    2. misses balls and laughs on his way into the dugout
    3. said this about not winning in the postseason: “If it doesn’t happen, who cares? There’s always next year. It’s not the end of the world.”
    4. shuts himself down when he doesn’t feel like playing.

    The guy is an idiot. I wouldn’t touch him with a 10 foot pole. To me he is a dumb version of Gary Sheffield – talented but trouble.

  122. Brandon (THE METS BULLPEN IS GANSTA !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 30th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    Minny :(

  123. jennifer September 30th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    White soxs stink. Rays will roll over them.

  124. vtred September 30th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    Tampa-White Sox?

    What a boring series.

  125. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    A Rays-BoSox ALCS would be quite eventful.

  126. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and save Robbie Cano! September 30th, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    Wow, congrats to the White Sox

    Twinkies :(

    L&O SVU time

  127. harwood September 30th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    I really hope Tampa gets embarrassed

  128. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 30th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    I feel bad for Nick Blackburn, he was crying when the cameras was on him.

  129. bdog375 September 30th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    Two best teams in baseball will meet in the ALCS. Angels and Rays. Rays pitching is going to be REAL tough in the postseason. If Edwin Jackson hits the strike zone, he and Garza will be the best pitchers on that staff. Postseason play seems to be dominated by pitchers who through hard heat with some movement, which both of those guys do.

  130. vinny-b (jerry manuel says "Brett Favre is gangsta!" September 30th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    “randy l
    September 30th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
    “Manny would be an awful fit for NY.”
    it’d be interesting with him hitting after arod.
    they’d be the best 3-4 hitters in baseball”

    not nearly as good as Manny/Ortiz were.

  131. Tom September 30th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    It takes more than payroll to build winners. The three most expensive teams in baseball–yanks, mets, det did not make the playoffs. Milwalkee did not begin to win until they made a commitment to scouting and developing players.

    As far as I’m concerned he did earn it. 11 years as GM 10 years in the playoffs, 5 world series, 3 world series wins. Yup fire his butt.

  132. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    I really wanted Minny to win because I like them much better as a team and really like Gardenhire. I’ll be happy to see the White Sox gets their butts kicked by the Rays.

  133. Y26 September 30th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Go Rays

    Screw the Chi Sox

  134. Brandon (THE METS BULLPEN IS GANSTA !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 30th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    God watching how a team like the White Sox win playing bad baseball I hope Cash is not thinking of blue printing this team to be a team full of sluggers in 09′ that would absolutely suck !

  135. randy l September 30th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    how’d you like to be a pitcher and see jeter on first and arod and manny coming up.
    i’d do it.

    people might think manny would set a bad example for players like cano, but actually he’s an incredibly hard worker hitting wise. he’s really a student of hitting.

    and he seems to always be in the playoffs one way or another.
    he’s always been on winning teams.

  136. Scorpio September 30th, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    Wow, is a Chicago “El” Series possible?
    Highly doubt it but ya never know.

    Sweet Lou vs. Crazy Ozzie…would be fun tv.

  137. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    “Al from BK – I think you are looking for another version of Manny that just doesn’t exist since he has always claimed his idiotic antics are just Manny being Manny.

    1. urinates in the outfield
    2. misses balls and laughs on his way into the dugout
    3. said this about not winning in the postseason: “If it doesn’t happen, who cares? There’s always next year. It’s not the end of the world.”
    4. shuts himself down when he doesn’t feel like playing.

    The guy is an idiot. I wouldn’t touch him with a 10 foot pole. To me he is a dumb version of Gary Sheffield – talented but trouble.”

    None of that really concerns me Trish results do. He has obviously wanted out of Boston for years and those were simply acts of defiance IMO. Yes he is a goof ball but his talent and production is undeniable. The Sheffield comparison is also a bit harsh, Manny is not a malicous guy with a vendetta Sheffield is. Also Sheffield is about 1/2 the hitter Manny is.

  138. For $13 I'll be a Macadamia Nut September 30th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    “bdog375
    September 30th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
    Everyone keeps talking about Manny. Don’t the Dodgers have a club option on him? I know it is high, but they have the money, and the opportunity to sign him to a 1 year deal is worth every penny for them. I do not see him hitting the market.”

    One of the conditions that Manny laid down to waive the NTC was that his option would not be picked up. That was agreed to, so they aren’t going to pick up the option, he is a FA.

  139. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 30th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    God watching how a team like the White Sox win playing bad baseball I hope Cash is not thinking of blue printing this team to be a team full of sluggers in 09′ that would absolutely suck !

    Brandon –

    I hope Cash would trade for Ryan Garko if Teixiera’s contract is ridiously dumb.

  140. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Yeah but randy he doesn’t really care if he wins in the playoffs. After all there’s always next year!

    Anyway, I think I see a theme emerging here (though I could be wrong) and it’s that those who are disgruntled with Cashman want Manny.

    My guess is your success will be the same as it was in getting rid of Cashman.

    :D

  141. Joe Schmoe 2 September 30th, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    John Danks with a CC-like performance.

  142. CanIGetAMooseCall September 30th, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    Re-signing Cashman sets a bad example: there are no consequences for terrible performance. The list of Cashman mistakes is very long. He should not have been rewarded with a new contract.

  143. CanIGetAMooseCall September 30th, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    Re-signing Cashman sets a bad example: there are no consequences for terrible performance. The list of Cashman mistakes is very long. He should not have been rewarded with a new contract.

  144. abe September 30th, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    I also wanted Minny to win, but Jr. deserves another chance at postseason, so not all is lost. He still has one of the most beautiful swings in baseball.

  145. CaShbum ( I am all For Manny) September 30th, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    Yankees and whitesox 1 game playoff!

  146. Primo September 30th, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    I hope he signs Manny before December 1.

  147. For $13 I'll be a Macadamia Nut September 30th, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    Manny would not do well under Girardi. That just doesn’t seem likely at all to happen.

    I really like Manny’s bat, but I don’t want to see him on the Yankees. Let him stay in the NL on the west coast.

  148. Forntoso September 30th, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    The White Sox are the worst model to build a team around.

    A boring, swing for the fences team full of 30+ players (Griffey, Konerko, Thome, Dye, Wise, AJ, O-Cab etc.) with no speed, bad defense, mediocre pitching.

    Thank the AL Central.

  149. Ed - looking forward to 2009 September 30th, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    Yankees and whitesox 1 game playoff!

    if only we could get Bud Slieg drunk enough to agree.

  150. CaShbum ( I am all For Manny) September 30th, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    Lets hope hughes can be John Danks

  151. Scorpio September 30th, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    Trish,

    Manny is correct, it may kill you to believe it but it’s a GAME! Everybody plays to win but every year many teams don’t make it to the post-season, should those guys go hang themselves? It’s a game, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

  152. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    I would never compare Manny with Sheff in terms of that surly nastiness that Sheff possesses!

    Manny assured himself that he would never see the Bronx when he whacked out Pukeface and knocked down the 70-year-old traveling secretary.

    While you may think that results are the only things that matter, you have to know that the Yankees pay attention to a lot more, including how well the person would fit. I agree with Rebecca. There is no fit there.

    My opinion.

  153. R-Tek September 30th, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    The White Sox have owned the Angels in recent years, almost Boston-like ownage. If they advance and the Angels advance, they will go to the WS.

  154. no.27 September 30th, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    I’ve read that Magglio Ordonez might be traded because the Tigers are looking to get their salary under $100mil. He’s supposed to make like $18mil next year, but if the Yankees can’t get Teixeira at a price they like, getting Ordonez to replace Abreu would help the offense, don’t you think?

  155. Brandon (THE METS BULLPEN IS GANSTA !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 30th, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Minny deserved to the win tonight, I wanted them to get to the ALCS it would have broken this CRAPPY movement to land XBOX sluggers that care about nothing but thier stats. Ed that would be something interesting I do miss having blue chippers instead of All Stars that crack under pressure because thier way is not beneficial to a team.

  156. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    :)

    Scoprio, we’re not talking here about whether or not Manny is right or wrong, just about whether he would fit in the Bronx.

    That statement, as you well know, would never play in the Bronx. Neither would just about anything that Manny pulls.

  157. Quilvio Imposter September 30th, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Danks > Hughes

    Plus Danks is a lefty.

  158. Jorge Tabata September 30th, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    Hank watched that game tonight and called Cashman immediately and asked him to trade for Griffey and Thome when the season was over.

  159. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Ozzie Guillen really annoys me.

    Oh well.

    I don’t much care at this point, as long as the Sux and Dodgers aren’t there in the end. But especially the Sux.

  160. no.27 September 30th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Trading for Magglio wouldn’t take much because of how much he makes. The Yankees would still get the draft picks from letting Abreu go and probably get draft picks from Magglio the following year after declining his option.

  161. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    “While you may think that results are the only things that matter, you have to know that the Yankees pay attention to a lot more, including how well the person would fit. I agree with Rebecca. There is no fit there.

    My opinion.”

    Fair enough. However with the likely departure of Giambi, who exactly will protect A-Rod in the line-up? Lets face it not even Giambi did a good job the Yanks need a “dangerous” hitter behind A-Rod in the line-up and please don’t tell me that hitter is Matsui or Nady.

  162. Brandon (THE METS BULLPEN IS GANSTA !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 30th, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    Manny is not built to handle NY it’s a whole different world than Boston and I don’t want to think what he would do to the locker room all this he’s a gamer is pure BS, the minute he becomes a distraction, I can just see Manny and GI Joe coming near blows one day, or Georgy and him, Manny is the type of guy looks wonderous from far, see him upclose and he’ll piss you off.

  163. Oddessy September 30th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    If Joba’s shoulder is hurting again then Mike Francessa might get his wish… Joba might be moved to then permanently and take over for Mariano.

  164. CaShbum ( I am all For Manny) September 30th, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    melky and kennedy for MAGGLIO

  165. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    Ordonez isn’t that great. If you are planning on bringing in a mid 30′s outfielder it should be Manny.

  166. no.27 September 30th, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    Forget Manny. Sign Teixeira and trade Nady for Magglio Ordonez.

    LF Damon
    SS Jeter
    RF Ordonez
    3B Rodriguez
    1B Teixeira
    DH Matsui
    C Posada
    2B Cano
    CF Gardner

  167. Scorpio September 30th, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    Did anyone catch thelast Joe Girardi show?

    I saw it and noted that he said Hughes, Melky &Cervelli will all be playing winter ball but with Ian Kennedy, Joe said he wasn’t sure…does this imply the Yanks don’t give a dime about Kennedy anymore?

  168. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    Al, why wouldn’t you think that Matsui could do the job? Or how about Jorge?

  169. Bronx Jeers September 30th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Did you guys just see Torre’s answer about the Cubs curse? Joe’s still the master of the sound bite. I am really very happy for him.

    Dodgers vs Angels. The Road Rage Series!

  170. mel September 30th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Well, the Sox certainly earned their berth. Congrats for winning the best division in all of baseball. haha.

    Did everyone get their Cash bash out of their system? Jeez, you guys could have a forum dedicated to the subject.

    It’d be cool to give Manny a 1-yr deal. Hi-jinx and hi, deep fly balls.

    Poll question. Who’s the first FA signed by the Yankees in the off-season?

  171. no.27 September 30th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    The thing about getting Ordonez is that its a 1 year deal and you actually get draft picks the following year when he leaves. Signing Manny will be a 3 year deal at big money for a guy that shouldn’t be on this team. Plus, the Yankees need to give up picks to get him.

  172. Scorpio September 30th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    Bronx Jeers,

    So what did Torre say??

  173. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    “If Joba’s shoulder is hurting again then Mike Francessa might get his wish… Joba might be moved to then permanently and take over for Mariano.”

    I’m sure Jobas injury isn’t at all career threatening. Its likely fatigue, nobody takes into account that Joba was turned into a reliever out of necessity he had been a starter his entire career prior to last July/August.

  174. CaShbum ( I am all For Manny) September 30th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    DODGERS and Cubs Upset written all over it

  175. mel September 30th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    Ask the players how Manny would fit in New York. I bet they would love to have him.

  176. harwood September 30th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    This team doesnt have room for Manny.

    Matsui is the DH next year. He is not getting moved.

    Damon cannot play CF every day.

  177. AP September 30th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Guys, ENOUGH WITH THE VETS AND PAYCHECKS!!

    Bring in role players who know how to win and do the little things to win games. Watch the Twins today and you see what a championship team looks like.

    We need players like Gardner, Mienkeiwitcz, Scott Podsedink, Andy Phillips, Juan Pierre, Alex Cora, Craig Counsell, Will Nieves, Miguel Cairo, Duncan, Molina, Dave Roberts, Willie Taverez, Casey Blake, Mike Lamb, Lo Duca, Reggie Wiltis, etc.
    Players who want to win and will do whatever it takes to win.

  178. Brandon (THE METS BULLPEN IS GANSTA !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 30th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    And X is still a better player than Maggs in the OF, I value defense as well as offense so there is no point in going after Maggs.

  179. yankeefan91 September 30th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    i was thinking if we dont resign abreu could we try and trade for magglio ordonez

  180. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    “Al, why wouldn’t you think that Matsui could do the job? Or how about Jorge?”

    You seem to be living in the past if you think Matsui or Posada are still “dangerous” hitters. If an opposing manager has to choose between pitching to A-Rod or a 36 year old catcher coming off of shoulder surgery A-Rod would never see a pitch.

  181. Bronx Jeers September 30th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    Torre: ” You’re talking to the former manager of the team that lost to Red Sox after taking a 3-0 lead so don’t talk to me about whether or not I believe in curses.”

    Something to that effect

  182. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    Manny or no Manny! No Manny!!

    Dodgers made the playoffs with Manny. My guess is they resign Manny, since other money is coming off the books, and don’t go after CC.

    Agree with GB7-Giants can’t afford to get CC at the expense of poor hitting.

    Angels will need to decide if they are spending on Teixiera, Rodriguez, and already have starting pitching.

    He will not be signed by Oakland and would be foolish to sign with Seattle.

    Since there are so few quality free agents this year, and the economy is on the brink, plus insurance companies won’t insure these big contracts, I suspect a lot of free agents will be offerred a minor league contract. Wonder if Lehman’s had a skybox in the new stadium, that they now cannot pay for?

  183. Dave D September 30th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    The organization doesn’t care about Kennedy. They took Rasner out of the rotation, brought up Kennedy, then re-inserted Rasner in the rotation after Kennedy’s start. They didn’t even give him a couple of starts, they had seen enough. Girardi and Cashman never mention him when they talk about the kids, they didn’t even bring him up after the playoffs were over to enjoy the final days of the stadium as a reward.

    He is trade bait, they don’t give a damn about him anymore

  184. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    “Ask the players how Manny would fit in New York. I bet they would love to have him.”

    Mel, think Jeter. That would be the day Jeter would appreciate a clown who sits out games when he feels like it and never busts it down the line.

  185. Scorpio September 30th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    Haha, classic Torre, thx!

  186. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    And I can’t wait til someone tries to tell Manny he can’t admire his homers.

    Manny is SO not Yankee material it isn’t funny.

  187. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    The solution to this DH/OF problem is to ship one of the geriatrics out. Damon/Matsui one of them needs a plane ticket out of town IMO.

  188. mel September 30th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    AP,

    lol. You lost me at Andy Phillips. Wait, is that you?

    Seriously, I like your thoughts. I would love to play Angel type of ball. Get Girardi players who can move guys and move themselves as well. Love the long ball, but this station to station crap’s got to go.

  189. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    If the Dodgers don’t pursue CC. Are the Yankees the only suitors?

  190. no.27 September 30th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    “We need players like Gardner, Mienkeiwitcz, Scott Podsedink, Andy Phillips, Juan Pierre, Alex Cora, Craig Counsell, Will Nieves, Miguel Cairo, Duncan, Molina, Dave Roberts, Willie Taverez, Casey Blake, Mike Lamb, Lo Duca, Reggie Wiltis, etc.”

    Those guys could sit on the bench next September when the rosters are expanded, but don’t you think it’s more interesting to talk about the 25 man roster the Yankees will use for most of the season?

  191. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    Oh man is SVU disturbing.

  192. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    “You seem to be living in the past if you think Matsui or Posada are still “dangerous” hitters.”

    Seriously. I guess you didn’t see Matsui get on base much after he came back from his injury, huh?

    Yes I believe that Matsui and Jorge are both dangerous hitters so I guess I will just keep on “living in the past.”

  193. no.27 September 30th, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Actually, if Magglio gets more than 500 PA’s next year his deal becomes 2 years longer… now I know why the Tigers want to unload him.

  194. Brandon (THE METS BULLPEN IS GANSTA !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 30th, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    If the Dodgers don’t pursue CC. Are the Yankees the only suitors?

    Supposively the Giants but IDK what sense that would make.

  195. trisha - BRING BOBBY BACK! September 30th, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Brandon, wasn’t there also talk of Minaya wanting CC?

  196. mel September 30th, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Al,

    Unless A-rod adjusts what he’s doing at the plate, he’ll see pitches all day, everyday.

    Just the other week, they went at A-rod. He got out and they intentionally walked whomever was behind him.

    The Yankees lost their bite. The pitchers aren’t intimidated and are pitching with great confidence to all the Yankees. Well, they were a little careful pitching to Gardner & Nady towards the end. What a hoot.

    But I digress. Pitchers figured out that they didn’t have to work too hard to get us out. Even if guys got on base, there was a good chance we weren’t going to push them across home plate.

    But, if we can get rid of the hit or miss guys. Get Posada back, even if it’s just at the plate. Get Matsui’s consistent production back. Get a revamped Robi. And a healthy Jeter. A clear-headed Alex. A new beginning at a new stadium, I think they’ll be good to go.

  197. no.27 September 30th, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    Matsui hit .209 after the all-star break with an ops under .600. He will be a productive hitter next year, but the Yankees need someone that will make pitchers pitch to A-Rod and can be counted on to play a full season.

  198. RalphieD September 30th, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    “Watch the Twins today and you see what a championship team looks like.”

    they are in the same situation we are in…the outside looking in

  199. Brandon (THE METS BULLPEN IS GANSTA !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 30th, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    Brandon, wasn’t there also talk of Minaya wanting CC?

    That’s speculation.

  200. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    Mel-

    Who’s the first FA signed by the Yankees?

    I’m going to go with Marte, they’ll decline the 6M option and sign him for two years guaranteed.

    My second guess would be Burnett.

    My hope is that it isn’t Pettitte, because he’s going nowhere, and I’d like to see us sign 2 FA starters that can give you a solid 7 innings most times out, and Pettitte clearly isn’t a 200 innings pitcher anymore. Pettitte back as last resort.

    Now if Mussina doesn’t retire, he’ll be the first FA signing.

    Oh geez, I was supposed to get only one guess. Right?

  201. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    ““You seem to be living in the past if you think Matsui or Posada are still “dangerous” hitters.”

    Seriously. I guess you didn’t see Matsui get on base much after he came back from his injury, huh?

    Yes I believe that Matsui and Jorge are both dangerous hitters so I guess I will just keep on “living in the past.””

    Matsui is having another knee surgery very soon and will basically be immobile. I would have to believe that eventually this many operations on the Knees of a guy in his 30′s would take a toll on his overall production. Don’t get me wrong they are both great hitters but “dangerous” is a word reserved for Pujols, Ortiz, and Manny.

  202. mel September 30th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    *that Alex and the IBB happened with a man in scoring position.

  203. AlexT September 30th, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    “””””JoeT – The Yankees have gotten worse every season that Cashman has been in charge.

    Look at these rediculous signings…

    Randy Johnson
    Kevin Brown
    Kei Igawa
    Carl Pavano
    Jaret Wright
    Clemens (second time)
    Kyle Farnsworth
    Javier Vazquez
    Jeff Weaver”””””

    Everyone would have wanted Randy Johnson.
    Everyone wanted Kevin Brown
    Everyone wanted Carl Pavano
    Everyone wanted Roger Clemens
    Kyle Farnsworth was and still is considered a quality reliever by most talent evaluators and GMs
    Everyone wanted Vazquez
    Everyone wanted Weaver.

    The signings all made sense when they were made. You win some, you lose some.

    Give him some credit for the things he did RIGHT. Arod, Abreu, Cano, Wang, Rivera, Matsui, Hughes, Joba, Kennedy, and more.

  204. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    “If the Dodgers don’t pursue CC. Are the Yankees the only suitors?

    Supposively the Giants but IDK what sense that would make.”

    CC would have a 2.00 ERA and still lose 15 games.

  205. Mike R September 30th, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    I think having Manny on the team would help A-Rod tremendously. That’d be a devastating 3-4 combo, and I think Manny would have a ton of fun playing in New York and getting back at Boston.

    You want to make a move in the off-season that will make the division (especially Boston) panic? Then sign Manny.

  206. Primo September 30th, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    There is nothing Manny wants more than to crush the Red Sox as a Yankee in 2009.
    Look at this line up:

    Damon
    Jetter
    Abreu
    Manny
    A-Rod
    Nady
    Cano or another 2nd baseman
    Posada
    You pick our first baseman .

    Godzilla needs to be traded.

  207. mel September 30th, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Oh, yeah. Someone brought up Santana and his sparkling record/ERA. Neither one would be so sparkling in the AL East.

    Now, I’m not trashing Johan. Would love to have him as a resident on the right side of the tracks. But don’t insult our intelligence by bringing up the stats in an inferior league.

    And Patrick, talking about how we didn’t trade Tabata for Johan, but we did for Marte & Nady. Hello? Tabata’s antics that caused his stock to plummet occurred after the Santana deal, and Cash did a nice job of moving the bruised fruit.

  208. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    “I think having Manny on the team would help A-Rod tremendously. That’d be a devastating 3-4 combo, and I think Manny would have a ton of fun playing in New York and getting back at Boston.

    You want to make a move in the off-season that will make the division (especially Boston) panic? Then sign Manny.”

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

  209. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    Is Jesus Montero our 1st baseman in 2 years, or our catcher when Posada’s contract up in 3 years?

  210. CaShbum ( I am all For Manny) September 30th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    “If the Dodgers don’t pursue CC. Are the Yankees the only suitors?

    Supposively the Giants but IDK what sense that would make.”

    The Dodgers are trying to cut down payroll that is why they want redsox to pay for manny contract so dodgers are not going to sign CC. I dont think the giants who still have a huge contract with Zito want another big contract with a pitcher

  211. Matt from LI September 30th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    If the Dodgers don’t pursue CC, to say the Yankees are the only suitors is a pretty bad assumption to make. The man is one of, if not, the most dominant lefty in the game, c’mon. Dodgers, Angels, Sox, Tigers, Yankees, Mets, etc… They are ALL going to be suitors, from what you hear or not, you have to believe that they all want him, and they can all afford him. Its a pretty optimistic thought to think the Yankees will be the only suitors for CC if the Dodgers back out of the race. Don’t get your hopes up on that one.

  212. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    “Oh, yeah. Someone brought up Santana and his sparkling record/ERA. Neither one would be so sparkling in the AL East.

    Now, I’m not trashing Johan. Would love to have him as a resident on the right side of the tracks. But don’t insult our intelligence by bringing up the stats in an inferior league.

    And Patrick, talking about how we didn’t trade Tabata for Johan, but we did for Marte & Nady. Hello? Tabata’s antics that caused his stock to plummet occurred after the Santana deal, and Cash did a nice job of moving the bruised fruit.”

    If Santana’s ERA were adjusted for the AL East it would be sitting around 3.50-4.00.

  213. CaShbum ( I am all For Manny) September 30th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    “devastating 3-4 combo, and I think Manny would have a ton of fun playing in New York and getting back at Boston.

    You want to make a move in the off-season that will make the division (especially Boston) panic? Then sign Manny.”

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.”

    Amen plus Manny and Arod are supposely best friends

  214. mel September 30th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    Al,

    That’s still great, but I still don’t want it thrown in my face every five minutes. :)

  215. Matt from LI September 30th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    Jesus Montero is more than likely going to be our 1B and Romine is probably going to be our catcher in 3-4 years. I would love for a bat like Montero to be our catcher, but the kid is going to grow out of the position (more than likely, though its still possible). I still think he ends up at 1B and Romine is our C of the future, very underated kid in our system.

  216. Ty September 30th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    AL from BK

    Matsui only had one knee surgery and I believe it was on the right knee (or left?)which hasn’t been an issue. The left (or right?)one will now get repaired. His only other real injury was the broken wrist in 2006.

  217. CaShbum ( I am all For Manny) September 30th, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    “If the Dodgers don’t pursue CC, to say the Yankees are the only suitors is a pretty bad assumption to make. The man is one of, if not, the most dominant lefty in the game, c’mon. Dodgers, Angels, Sox, Tigers, Yankees, Mets, etc… They are ALL going to be suitors, from what you hear or not, you have to believe that they all want him, and they can all afford him. Its a pretty optimistic thought to think the Yankees will be the only suitors for CC if the Dodgers back out of the race. Don’t get your hopes up on that one.”

    Yankees will offer him the most money plus are other teams Tigers, Dodgers wants to cut down the salary mets have santana already and i dont see them getting CC. The Angels have to sign alot of players K-rod,Lackey,TEX,etc.The Redsox might be in there just to drive up the price

  218. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    “If the Dodgers don’t pursue CC, to say the Yankees are the only suitors is a pretty bad assumption to make. The man is one of, if not, the most dominant lefty in the game, c’mon. Dodgers, Angels, Sox, Tigers, Yankees, Mets, etc… They are ALL going to be suitors, from what you hear or not, you have to believe that they all want him, and they can all afford him. Its a pretty optimistic thought to think the Yankees will be the only suitors for CC if the Dodgers back out of the race. Don’t get your hopes up on that one.”

    Sorry but I have to disagree. Dodgers perhaps but they might not want to spend 150 million on CC. The Red Sox don’t need him but I’m sure they’ll be involved just to drive up the price. The Tigers maybe. The Mets are going to be focused heavily on K-Rod and secondly if CC were to come to NY at all it would be to the Yanks and not the Mets. The Giants might get in on it but why would he want to pitch for a team with no offense and a suspect bullpen?

  219. EY September 30th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    I just realized something. Adding Manny would take half the media spotlight away from Arod so he’d feel less pressure to perform, which would in turn make him more clutch.

  220. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    Okay, I am never going to be able to think of a baseball bat in the same way ever again.

  221. CaShbum ( I am all For Manny) September 30th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    “If Santana’s ERA were adjusted for the AL East it would be sitting around 3.50-4.00.”

    espically with his 88-91 Fastball

  222. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    Primo-

    Matsui has a NTC, and Manny would be a disaster in left field in Yankee Stadium. Plus he’s a nonconformist to club rules and won’t cut his hair, plus once he has a guaranteed contract he’ll do whatever he pleases, including not playing when Holliday is pitching. Manny just being Manny with the average intelligence of an eraser. That’s why nothing bothers him!

  223. mel September 30th, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    Rebecca,

    Ahem. It doesn’t come on for another 5 hours here.

  224. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    “AL from BK

    Matsui only had one knee surgery and I believe it was on the right knee (or left?)which hasn’t been an issue. The left (or right?)one will now get repaired. His only other real injury was the broken wrist in 2006.”

    2 knee surgeries in less than a year is nothing to sneeze at. Those injuries effectively ended his career in the field.

  225. CaShbum ( I am all For Manny) September 30th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    You think manny wont be pumped to get back at the redsox?

  226. Celerino Sanchez September 30th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    “If Santana’s ERA were adjusted for the AL East it would be sitting around 3.50-4.00.”

    um, I seem to recall Santana dominating the American League as well. Two Cy Youngs if you have forgotten.

  227. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    “I just realized something. Adding Manny would take half the media spotlight away from Arod so he’d feel less pressure to perform, which would in turn make him more clutch.”

    Never thought of it that way pretty interesting.

  228. Matt from LI September 30th, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    Cash-

    Not saying the Yankees won’t offer him the most money. I think they will hand the money as much money as he wants. But the Angels are going to be smart with their money this year. They will pick up Vlad’s option, do what they can to resign Tex, Anderson is going to walk, K-Rod is going to walk (they have a ton of faith in Arrendando to close, the kid has filthy stuff and proved that this year). They will still be suitors in the CC sweepstakes, especially since Escobar is still a ? after his surgery and Garland is going to be gone. The Mets may have shelled out a lot of money to CC, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t willing to offer CC some as well. They really don’t have a lot of cash coming off of the books, but with a new field and clearly a big market, they can still afford it and O will do all in his power to once AGAIN (haha), make up for this year’s collapse. Red Sox will clearly drive up the price, I don’t see them being real suitors, but you really never know. You still have to go with the idea that big markets will be in the running. Regardless of the Tigers wanted to limit payroll, they have very very little depth in their starting rotation and they know that. They just finished last in the AL Central, I am sure they will be willing to pay CC some serious cash as well.

  229. Matt from LI September 30th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    hand the man*

  230. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    The best thing the Yankees can do to sign CC is put on the full court press, bring him and his family to NYC, wine and dine him and have Jeter, Posada and Rivera show him around the new stadium, and tell him if he makes the all star team next year he will be allowed to enter the home run hitting contest!!!

  231. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    mel: What? I didn’t spoil anything!

  232. mel September 30th, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    YT,

    To be fair, Manny’s not dumb. I think he has some kind of disability. There was a long article about him in the New Yorker I think. It’s not something he does consciously.

    Anyway, it’s not going to happen. But I think it’s silly to say no to that kind of bat. I think he’d be a better fit than Shef ever was. I also think he could fit right into the Big G’s shoes as the team character.

    But it’s not going to happen.

    I think that the Dodgers are going to be forced to bring him back. He’s a good fit and he’s rejuvenated Dodger baseball in LA. And really, they basically paid him a zero-based salary this season.

  233. CaShbum ( I am all For Manny) September 30th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    “Matsui has a NTC, and Manny would be a disaster in left field in Yankee Stadium. Plus he’s a nonconformist to club rules and won’t cut his hair, plus once he has a guaranteed contract he’ll do whatever he pleases, including not playing when Holliday is pitching. Manny just being Manny with the average intelligence of an eraser. That’s why nothing bothers him!”

    Manny is a average fielder that is not his strong point and not the reason you got him here. You tell him If he want to cut his hair he can become a yankee if not then you dont sign him period. Manny didnt do that all last year, he started doing it this year because he was unhappy about his contract when he gets his contract he will not complain.

  234. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and save Robbie Cano! September 30th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    OK, not a fan of the new ADA on L&O SVU.

  235. Mike R September 30th, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Who gives a poop if he cuts his hair. We’re talking about the best hitter in the game. Let’s get real here, do we want to win championships, or do we want to breed GQ models?

    Manny plays the game with a lot of pride, and what happened in Boston goes much deeper than him just “not feeling like playing”.

  236. CaShbum ( I am all For Manny) September 30th, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    “um, I seem to recall Santana dominating the American League as well. Two Cy Youngs if you have forgotten.”

    That is when he has 94-96mph fastball now his fastball is only 88-91 max

  237. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    SA: Me neither.

  238. AP September 30th, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Get Girardi some role players who will obey him and do the little things to win games like bunt, steal, play good D, manufacture runs.

    The more vets on this team, the more difficult you are making Girardi’s job. They will alienate him
    You committed to Girardi, now give him players he needs. Girardi doesn’t know how to play Bully baseball.

  239. Ramon September 30th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    Girardi > Donnie Baseball

    Tony Pena > Donnie Baseball

    I would have rather kept Torre than hire Donnie. What credentials does he have?

  240. Matt from LI September 30th, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    Only way I see Manny in pinstripes is if one of two scenarios happen…

    1) Matsui learns how to play 1B, which he said he is willing to do. I personally don’t like the idea. We haven’t had a real 1B since Tino. Sicne then we’ve had players who we’ve just kinda thrown in there and asked them to learn the position. But, if Matsui does end up trying to learn the position then Manny could be our DH and we don’t have to worry about looking for a 1B.

    2) We trade Matsui. The man has very little value right now, so I don’t see this happening.

    I don’t see either scenario happnening to be honest. I see Manny chillin’ back in Dodger Blue in 09′.

  241. mel September 30th, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    Rebecca,

    No you didn’t. But if I see a bat in the episode…!

    I don’t see the Yankees giving a blank check to CC. A just above-market price to come play for the Yankees should be enough of a pitch.

    Don’t forget, the Yankees have to replace Giambi’s bat and glove (guffaw).

    That’s why I suggested that the Yankees *might* prefer an AJ/Tex combo over CC.

    AJ’s older, but I think he’s entering his prime right now. He’ll command a shorter contract in the 4 yr/$60M range. CC’s looking to cash in at a 7 yr/$140M type of deal.

    I don’t even want to think what it’ll take to get Tex, but 1B is a priority as far as I’m concerned.

  242. Yankee Trader September 30th, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    CaShbum-
    I think you forgot that Manny was out with an “injury” during the month of September in 2007. No doubt the man can hit-when he’s motivated!

    My bet is Manny will not be a Yankee-Dodger or Philly, but not a Yankee.

  243. mel September 30th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    Rebecca & SA,

    The crusader?

  244. Laura - Okay, Cash - get to work!! September 30th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    “OK, not a fan of the new ADA on L&O SVU.”

    Isn’t she horrible? Ugh! She’s not quite as bad as the wooden blonde chick that used to be on the original L&O, but she’s cutting it close.

  245. Betsy September 30th, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    Nitro, thanks!

    I’m surprised that Buster really thinks the Angels are going to put the full court press on CC – I just hope that if the Yanks make a good offer and he turns them down, that fans won’t savage Cashman. There is nothing he can do if CC just does not want to play in NY.

    Not sure how I feel about Derek Lowe – can he hack it again in the AL East? I guess if they get Burnett (but he may re-sign with the Jays), Lowe might be a nice fit. However, why would he want to leave such a good situation in LA?

  246. For $13 I'll be a Macadamia Nut September 30th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    “Manny didnt do that all last year, he started doing it this year because he was unhappy about his contract when he gets his contract he will not complain.”

    Manny said Boston was not for him the first time he set foot in there. He was on again off again with wanting to be traded from Boston. What makes you think he wouldn’t be the same with any other team he signs with?

    He is complaining about having a $20 million a year option. What guarantee is there that he doesn’t do the same thing after the new contract is a few months old? None. Its Manny being Manny. :roll:

    Great bat, but not a head case that Girardi would work well with.

  247. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    mel: Some advice, eat your dinner now.

  248. E-Rod September 30th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    Damon-Jeter-Manny-Arod-Teixeria-Posada-Matsui-Nady-Cano

    CC-Wang-Joba-Pettitte-Hughes

    Rivera-Melancon-Bruney-Sanchez-Coke-Marte-Aceves

    Go for it all!

  249. Patrick Bateman September 30th, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    “Burnett wants to play for the Yankees.”

    Of course Burnett is saying he wants to play for the Yankees, nobody else is stupid enough to sign him.

  250. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    Laura: I miss Alex Cabot!

  251. raymagnetic September 30th, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    “how’d you like to be a pitcher and see jeter on first and arod and manny coming up.
    i’d do it.

    people might think manny would set a bad example for players like cano, but actually he’s an incredibly hard worker hitting wise. he’s really a student of hitting.

    and he seems to always be in the playoffs one way or another.
    he’s always been on winning teams.”

    Randy,

    I totally agree with you.

  252. mel September 30th, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    Have you seen Manny’s hair lately? He trimmed a lot more than an inch this time.

    So Torre took his rules? Only neatly trimmed mustaches? Do they all look clean cut like the Yankees?

    Have you guys seen poor Scotty Proctor’s stats? He’s sporting an 6+ ERA in the NL.

    Brandon, weren’t you lamenting that Betemit trade? You were talking about Proctor like he was Doc Halladay. I forgot to rag you about that one.

  253. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and save Robbie Cano! September 30th, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    OK-Good to see I’m not the only one not feeling the ADA. lol
    She’s so…bad.

  254. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 11:13 pm

    Manny is the best hitter in baseball short of Pujols/A-Rod so since we can’t have Pujols why not get Manny to back up A-Rod in the line-up.

  255. AJ YANKS September 30th, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    If it takes a blank check to get CC, forget him.

    Why would you want someone here who doesn’t want to be here but only comes here because he gets $50 million more than another team? I have no problem being the highest bidder but to severely overpay and blow the market way out of proportion unnecessarily for a guy who doesn’t want to be here is ludicrous.

  256. mel September 30th, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    Loved Alex! Didn’t care for the blonde chick with the plastic face. The one where she asked if she was getting fired for being gay? They just threw that tidbit in there at the end. Because as far as I know it never came up.

  257. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    “Brandon, weren’t you lamenting that Betemit trade? You were talking about Proctor like he was Doc Halladay. I forgot to rag you about that one.”

    lol. Proctor is pretty bad but Betemit hasn’t done much either so I’d call that trade even.

  258. Brandon (THE METS BULLPEN IS GANSTA !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 30th, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    I’m betting Manny will be a Marlin or Philly. Quote me.

  259. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    mel: You mean Serena? Yeah, she wasn’t my favorite.

    I love Alex and on the original I like Borgia just because her name was Borgia and it made me think of all sorts of very interesting 15th century Italians.

  260. Nick in SF September 30th, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    Pete Abe: “Just spoke to Joe Girardi, who was nice enough to return a call a few hours after he arrived home in Florida.”

    Which answers the question: does Girardi read the LoHud Yankee blog?

    I was watching BT a few minutes ago and Joe Mauer said the magic words: “tip my cap.” Thanks, Joe!

    I hope randy l. is doing ok with the Cashman news. randy, if you’re out there, you were 100% right about Livan: the Twins just announced that they’re voting him a full non-playoff share.

  261. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    Brandon: You called the Manny trade, so I’ll be sure to quote you on that.

  262. Brandon (THE METS BULLPEN IS GANSTA !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 30th, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    Brandon, weren’t you lamenting that Betemit trade? You were talking about Proctor like he was Doc Halladay. I forgot to rag you about that one.

    Who would you want Bet or Proctor ? And it doesn’t mean that we can’t deal Bet after he picks up his stock.

  263. Mike R (Phish Reunion '09) September 30th, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    “Damon-Jeter-Manny-Arod-Teixeria-Posada-Matsui-Nady-Cano
    CC-Wang-Joba-Pettitte-Hughes
    Rivera-Melancon-Bruney-Sanchez-Coke-Marte-Aceves
    Go for it all!”

    That’d be an offseason to remember :)

    That lineup is devastating.

  264. mel September 30th, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    Al,

    You know, I must have the biggest heart in the world. I love all my Yankees.

    Better-Meat got his eyes fixed and was playing better in his ROLE. Of course he got exposed when he was pushed into full-time duty.

    I like Ransom though. Miguel Cairo with a bat. Whee!

  265. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and save Robbie Cano! September 30th, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    Didn’t care for the blonde chick with the plastic face. The one where she asked if she was getting fired for being gay? They just threw that tidbit in there at the end. Because as far as I know it never came up.

    Serena Southerlyn. Oh she was horrible also! So wooden.

    Loved Alex also. Wished she would come back.

  266. Alfred E. Kennedy September 30th, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    We need a star behind A-Rod.

    All we have behind him now is washed up role players like Posada, Matsui, Giambi etc.

    Put a star behind A-Rod for once, he deserves it.

  267. mel September 30th, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    Brandon,

    Well, I kind of like Betemit. And Proctor’s toast. And we don’t need to ask out loud why he’s toast.

  268. george September 30th, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    Manny Ramirez as a Yankee – the thought is sickening.

    if i’m spending that kind of money get the Yanks a hitter who will be late 30s at the end of his contract, Teixeira seems a better choice, because he also brings a glove. and on the Angels he seems to have adapted to hit-running, etc. all Manny brings in addition to hitting is truly offensive behavior.

  269. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    POLL right now!:

    Who will be the Yankees big offensive acquisition this offseason?

    Who will be the Yankees big pitching acquisition this offseason?

  270. mel September 30th, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    Al: offense-Tex
    pitching-AJ

  271. Nick in SF September 30th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    Al: same answer for both questions: CC!

  272. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    “Al,

    You know, I must have the biggest heart in the world. I love all my Yankees.

    Better-Meat got his eyes fixed and was playing better in his ROLE. Of course he got exposed when he was pushed into full-time duty.

    I like Ransom though. Miguel Cairo with a bat. Whee!”

    I lol’d at that last part.

  273. mel September 30th, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    Nick,

    Is Cal a good school? Daughter got something in the mail from their athletic department. Wondering if I should fish it out of the rubbish and give it to her.

  274. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    To answer my own poll:

    Offense: Kotchman
    Pitching: CC

  275. no.27 September 30th, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    Offense: Teixeira
    Pitching: Sabathia

  276. Ramon September 30th, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    Pitching – Oliver Perez
    Hitting – Delgado

  277. Nick in SF September 30th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    Is Cal a good school? Is the Pope Catholic? Is Livan hungry? Is Hal Holbrook a cherished national institution?

    Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

  278. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Ramon- when did the Yankees become the destination for Mets cast-offs?

  279. Tank September 30th, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Pitching – Manny
    Hitting – CC

  280. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) September 30th, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    “Is Cal a good school? Is the Pope Catholic? Is Livan hungry? Is Hal Holbrook a cherished national institution?

    Yes, yes, yes, and yes.”

    LMAO.

  281. David from McDonalds September 30th, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    I still think Kennedy could be a star if he gets the chance.

  282. mel September 30th, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    Um. K. Thanks. Maybe I should ask someone impartial. :?

  283. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Tank: LMAO

    Pitching: CC
    Hitting: Someone we’re not expecting.

  284. vin September 30th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Offense – Adrian Gonzalez
    Pitching – CC
    3rd Base Coach – anybody but Meacham

  285. Nick in SF September 30th, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    mel, was it a serious question? Cal is the top-ranked public university in the country.

  286. Buddy Biancalana September 30th, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    mel-

    Berkeley is an incredible school, just watch out for the tree huggers.

  287. mel from Taco Bell September 30th, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    When can teams start talking to free agents?

    Oct. 1, 2008
    Division Series play begins

    Oct. 9, 2008
    Championship Series play begins

    Oct. 22, 2008
    World Series begins

    Nov. 3-6, 2008
    General Managers Meetings, Dana Point, Calif.

    Nov. 20, 2008
    Day to file reserve lists for all Minor League levels and Major Leagues

    Dec. 1, 2008
    Last date for former club to offer salary arbitration to ranked free agents in order to be eligible for compensation.

    Dec. 7, 2008
    Last date for player who declared free agency to accept an arbitration offer from former club.

    Dec. 8-11, 2008
    Winter Meetings hosted by Jason Giambi, Las Vegas

    Dec. 11, 2008
    Rule 5 Draft

    Dec. 12, 2008
    Last date to tender contracts for 2009

  288. mel from Taco Bell September 30th, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    Nick,

    Thanks. Yes, serious. Just don’t know if she’ll feel comfortable wearing hemp and Birkenstocks.

    Buddy,

    As long as they’re hugging trees and not my daughter, that’s just fine.

  289. Joe from Subway September 30th, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    see what you started, al?

    :)

  290. Nick in SF September 30th, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    Buddy: true, but each incoming freshman class member was issued his or her own chainsaw this semester.

  291. David from McDonalds September 30th, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    If we sign Manny, chances are the Dodgers would then go for CC. Though I still think the Tex/AJ combo is the better ticket.

  292. Brandon (THE METS BULLPEN IS GANSTA !)..."Keep Manny away !" September 30th, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Offense – Adrian Gonzalez
    Pitching – CC

    And what may I ask would we deal for Gonzo ?

  293. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Nick in SF September 30th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    Is Cal a good school? Is the Pope Catholic? Is Livan hungry? Is Hal Holbrook a cherished national institution?

    Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

    you still lost to Maryland.

  294. Nick in SF September 30th, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    mel: Berkeley does have that crunchy granola reputation, but there is also a large “normal” counter-culture and a large fraternity-sorority system. No joke, it’s a great school.

  295. R-Tek September 30th, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    Kennedy, Coke, and Miranda for Gonzalez

  296. Buddy Biancalana September 30th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    Brandon-

    Igawa & $50 Million for Gonzo

  297. Nick in SF September 30th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    Rebecca: she asked if it was a good school, not a good football team!

    Sigh.

    Oh yeah, we’re still 3-1! I think Michigan St. was a good win. Maryland is ranked now! We beat Colorada St. 42-7!

    The season isn’t over yet.

  298. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    Mel: I think most contracts are up 31 October.

  299. Wilson September 30th, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    Marbury will thrive in D’antoni’s system. We need to hang onto him.

  300. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    Nick: Yeah, but you’re asking on a sports blog!

    Of course, if we’re going by football teams, than Syracuse is bottom of the barrel, so maybe I should shut up :-D

  301. jonnycat September 30th, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    anyone remember Bobcat, and all his ‘insider’ knowledge about how we were going to land Santana?

    What happened to that guy?

  302. vin September 30th, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    “And what may I ask would we deal for Gonzo ?”

    I can dream, can’t I? The Pads would never move him – he’s from the area, signed an extension (I believe), loves it there (for what that’s worth).

    But… I’d start with Cano and Kennedy and see where it goes.

  303. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    jonnycat: I think he was just playing us

    Pete asked him for his credentials and he bailed.

  304. Nick in SF September 30th, 2008 at 11:49 pm

    jonnycat: you read what I want you to read. Everything I say, I say for a reason. It’s all calculated. You have no idea what’s really going on.

  305. vin September 30th, 2008 at 11:49 pm

    “jonnycat: I think he was just playing us

    Pete asked him for his credentials and he bailed.”

    Yeah, but it was really exciting theater for awhile there. I’ll never forget “You hear what they want you to hear.” It was probably some 13 year old who gets a kick out of having thousands of people waiting on every word he types.

  306. jonnycat September 30th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    Rebecca: I sorta remember that he provided pete with some credentials back channel, and pete allowed him to stay? He seemed to be so on the money until the last second….

    btw, good luck with school this semester. I applied for a job there last year and ultimately signed on somewhere else.

  307. PAT M September 30th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    Cal-Berkley is not a good school, rather it’s one of the Nation’s best…..Always been a great place ….Go Bears…

  308. Matt from LI September 30th, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    “Kennedy, Coke, and Miranda for Gonzalez”

    yes, and while we are at it… Lets trade Hughes for Peavy, straight up.

  309. jonnycat September 30th, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    Nick- VERY funny. It’s coming back to me now, lol

  310. Nick in SF September 30th, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    I actually missed most of the Bobcat phenomenon. I think it started while I was out of the country during the Yanks/Cleveland series and by the time I came back he was on the way to becoming a running joke. But I did get to see a few of his posts. If he was just a pure BS’er, he was a good one.

  311. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) September 30th, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    jonnycat: Thank you!

    Nick: OMG. That was spot on!

  312. Clare September 30th, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    I remember Bobcat, but I forget who it was that commented on ARod returning days before it was public. Anyone remember who that was?

  313. Buddy Biancalana October 1st, 2008 at 12:00 am

    Bobcat must have has some insider knowledge, I think he may have been jeopardizing his job, which is why he may may hit the high road,

  314. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) October 1st, 2008 at 12:00 am

    Nick: It was during the Winter Meetings, when everyone was hanging on every minute waiting for Santana trade to brea.

    The funny thing is nothing happened until the middle of January!

  315. vin October 1st, 2008 at 12:00 am

    Clare – I believe that was Brandon who reported that one – if memory serves.

  316. 38HotDogs October 1st, 2008 at 12:00 am

    The ARod source was named Miller or something like that as i recall

  317. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) October 1st, 2008 at 12:03 am

    I think the A-Rod source was Miller.

    Brandon was the Manny source.

  318. Buddy Biancalana October 1st, 2008 at 12:05 am

    It was Miller

  319. Nick in SF October 1st, 2008 at 12:07 am

    I was the source that reported that Arod was going to opt out of his Scores contract.

  320. vin October 1st, 2008 at 12:08 am

    Miller… that’s right.

  321. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) October 1st, 2008 at 12:09 am

    If we tried hard enough we could look up the thread in the archive but it’s late and I’m lazy.

  322. Jorge Tabata October 1st, 2008 at 12:13 am

    Hughes = Big game pitcher

  323. Al from BK( Brett Favre 12 TD's 4 INT in 4 games. CC Sabathia: 17-10, 2.70 ERA, 251 K's-253 IP, 10 CG's 5 Shut-Outs.) October 1st, 2008 at 12:13 am

    I am the source for the CC talks come the offseason everybody refer to me for all things CC. For other inside info read SJ’s post.

  324. pat October 1st, 2008 at 12:14 am

    It was Miller with the A-Rod scoop last year. He had a friend who worked in an agents office.

    Either Miller or Bobcat also had some sort of a connection to people at Goldman Sachs. I think that was Bobcat but don’t remember for sure anymore.

  325. Nick in SF October 1st, 2008 at 12:15 am

    I am going to Vallejo tomorrow. I will keep my eyes and ears open for all CC-related info. If there’s a local skinny to be found on CC, I will find it.

  326. Tank October 1st, 2008 at 12:16 am

    I do remember one line that Bobcat stays that still sticks with me when I read the anonymous quotes about Sabathia

    “Remember, you read what you are supposed to read. these things are leaked purposefully.”

  327. Clare October 1st, 2008 at 12:16 am

    Miller – right, thanks.

  328. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) October 1st, 2008 at 12:17 am

    Maybe Bobcat was Warren Buffet.

    How funny would that be?

    BTW, I’m an inside source for…umm…uhh…

    I’ll get back to you on that.

  329. mel from Taco Bell October 1st, 2008 at 12:18 am

    Point for each time you use “skinny” and CC in a sentence.

    Score:

    Nick (1)

  330. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) October 1st, 2008 at 12:19 am

    Nick: You know we’ll hold you to it. I’m still waiting for my pops :-P

  331. Nick in SF October 1st, 2008 at 12:21 am

    Rebecca, it would be to my eternal dishonor to welsh on our bet, even though the terms for your side of the bet were never spelled out, and even though I don’t want to offend any Welshmen who might be checking in with the blog.

    Also, CC will look good in pinstripes; vertical stripes are slimming, so they’ll make him look skinny.

  332. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) October 1st, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Nick: Dude.

    from my trip to Wales

  333. Dave D October 1st, 2008 at 12:25 am

    If Girardi doesn’t work out, why doesn’t Hank name himself manager?

  334. Nick in SF October 1st, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Monet meets Japan, nice. That reminds me of a snowy day I spent in Glasgow once. Wales is the only UK nation I haven’t visited, so I have no further comment.

  335. mel from Taco Bell October 1st, 2008 at 12:31 am

    Who’s the most famous woman and man from Wales?

  336. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) October 1st, 2008 at 12:31 am

    Nick: You’ve got to go. I am in love with the UK…all of Europe, but the UK especially Wales and Scotland.

  337. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) October 1st, 2008 at 12:32 am

    mel: Woman I don’t know, but man is probably Dylan Thomas.

  338. mel from Taco Bell October 1st, 2008 at 12:34 am

    Rebecca,

    I’m thinking Sir Anthony Hopkins and Catherine Zeta Jones. I may be wrong, though.

  339. Nick in SF October 1st, 2008 at 12:34 am

    I love the UK too, even Northern Ireland. Or maybe especially Northern Ireland. Hey, is Rosh Hoshanna over or does it go until sundown tomorrow night? I was supposed to call my grandma but I forgot.

  340. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Happy New Year (?) October 1st, 2008 at 12:35 am

    Nick: Tomorrow till Sundown.

    Don’t worry, I didn’t call either of my parents or speak to any of my brothers today.

  341. BoSox Bob October 1st, 2008 at 12:36 am

    When does Joe Torre come back to “manage” the Yanks??

  342. Nick in SF October 1st, 2008 at 12:41 am

    Thanks, I’ll call tomorrow, and if my step-mom chews me out, I’ll tell her that Rebecca from the LoHud blog didn’t call anyone on the first day either!

  343. GreenBeret7 October 1st, 2008 at 12:52 am

    mel from Taco Bell
    September 30th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
    Nick,

    Thanks. Yes, serious. Just don’t know if she’ll feel comfortable wearing hemp and Birkenstocks.

    Buddy,

    As long as they’re hugging trees and not my daughter, that’s just fine.

    ___________________________________________________

    It’s better to wear the hemp than smoke it, Mel.

  344. GreenBeret7 October 1st, 2008 at 12:59 am

    Mel, T.E. Lawrence, Charlotte Church, Henry V are from Wales.

  345. GreenBeret7 October 1st, 2008 at 1:03 am

    Add Richard Burton to your list

  346. knucklehead3k October 1st, 2008 at 5:56 am

    absolutely horrible move by the yanks.
    under this supposed “free thinker,” the team has returned to its spend money like a drunken sailor ways.
    as has been pointed out previously, if you look at basically all our free agent signings, they’re borderline retarded.
    name one player cash has brought in that lived up to – or exceeded expectations? afraud? giambi? damon? anyone? i don’t think so.
    and when we had a chance to acquire a frontline starter this year – johan santana – for nothing more than a broken down picther in his early 20s and a fifth outfielder, he’s afraid to pull the trigger because of obvious past mistakes.
    hate to say it, but the yanks ain’t making the playoffs next year either, no matter who they bring in and how much money they spend.
    let’s see the yanks get back to the model that made them successful in the past and grow talent from within the organization and then supplement that with role players from outside, not aging, could care less all stars at every position like bobby “i’m afraid of the fence” abreu and ivan fraudriguez.
    but instead, cash will spend more money, bring in some lame centerfielder instead of giving a sparkplug leadoff man like gardner a shot and sign phonies like sheets and burnett to big money contracts, repeating the sins of the past.
    way to doom the franchise.

  347. Future October 1st, 2008 at 8:02 am

    Knucklehead sounds exactly like one. Cash has done everything the Steinbrenners wanted him too. How can you argue Bobby Abreu was a bad trade? We needed a catcher so we got Pudge. Also remember he brought us some of the players on the winning teams. Sorry we just can’t win every year. He couldnt know the guys he picked up would not hit well with RISP. FYI, he didnt want to resign A-Rod. He does when he is told we need and it wont always work out, but find me someone better. Do NOT say Epstein. He is not better.

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