Report on the Beach Boys
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- October
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No, not Brian Wilson and Co. We’re talking about Andrew Brackman, Jeremy Bleich, Austin Romine and Damon Sublett.
The Hawaiian Winter League has started and there are four Yankees on the roster of the Waikiki Beach Boys. They play at Les Murakami Stadium.
For Brackman, it’s his first taste of competition since he finished his Tommy John rehab. He was their first-round pick in 2007. Bleich was a supplemental first round pick in the 2008 draft. Sublett is a 2007 draft pick (seventh round) who was with Single-A Tampa this season but played only 42 games.
Romine is a bright prospect, a high school catcher who went high in the 2007 draft and performed well at Single-A Charleston (.300/.344/.437).
The league runs through Nov. 15. You can follow the Yankees players on the HWL web site, which has stats. Minor League Baseball.com also is keeping the stats.
UPDATE, 9:44 p.m.: Hey, this is cool. Mel, one of our loyal readers is blogging about the HWL. So check that out.
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This could be it for the blogging for a new days unless there is some news to report. It’s time for a little break.
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no more blog posts?? But how will I get through my day??
Alright I guess you deserve a break Pete lol – Thanks as always
Who are the Beach Boys? Just kiddin’
Peter what am going to do ….work?
Take a break big guy you earned it.
Nick,
“Never go with a hippie to a second location.â€
Why…because you might have too much fun or because you just might not be the same person ever again?
I would love to see Torre and Manny go into Fenway and beat the Sox.
John,
Don’t do that, you just might jinx it.
I would love to see the Sox out in the first round.
Pete:
Just leave us a fresh thread every couple of days, doesn’t need to be much. We’ll do the rest.
Who’s this Brian Wilson fellow? Everyone knows Mike Love is the brains behind the Beach Boys!
Can anyone tell me if Brett Gardner is playing winter ball? If not I think thats a joke. He needs to learn how to hit, how not to strike out if he is going to be a real candidate for Cf
thanks pete for this blog, we all appreciate it
John,
Don’t forget about Nomah too!
Wow sort of surpised to see Lidge up again after the amount of pitches he threw last night
“My name is Andrew Brackman and I am a 1st round Yankee draft pick and am currently getting paid to play baseball in Hawaii.”
If only I was born talented instead of beautiful.
Did Cano ever play in Hawaii cause he often plays like he’s on vacation?
Please just drop by once a day, I’m seriously gonna die without this blog. It takes away a good hour from other stuff I should be doing. It’s like something I depend on at this point.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Pete, make sure you tell us what is going on today in the journal news every morning
wow he looked sharper tonight than he did last night. Being a Phillies fanyou never want to count your chickens before they hatch but wow cant believe one more and we move on.
Victorino is so charming… this is the first time i’ve heard him speak
he would love it in NY
Stephen M
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
John,
“Don’t forget about Nomah too!”
In that case you shouldn’t forget about Derek Lowe either, he won a ring with the Sox in 2004.
Boy, If I didn’t know any better, with the way everyone is talking, you would think that Pete was some kind of pusher.
Smoltz is actually a good analyst, so is Granderson
TBS’ promotions and commercials are unbearable though.
Tank –
Brian Cashman would have to get the new Phillies’ GM drunk enough to agree trading Victorino to us during the GM/Winter meetings.
haha
vader, we need our sttuff all day everyday
you cant just stop cold turkey
we would go through withdrawals lol
Romine = Pudge behind the plate or Elston Howard in the OF.
This kid is a good one.
“Boy, If I didn’t know any better, with the way everyone is talking, you would think that Pete was some kind of pusher.”
i’ll just say” never go with a sports writer to a second location”.
I see Brackman pitched the opener and did his best to emulate IPK. Bleich was their Hughes pitching slightly better in the next game but was still ineffective.
I’m sensing a statement from Hank blaming the poor performance on a team wide “lethargic malaise” stemming from a case of “bad vibes” that the manager had picked up in Oahu.
“I see Brackman pitched the opener and did his best to emulate IPK. Bleich was their Hughes pitching slightly better in the next game but was still ineffective”
yeah lets trade them for bats..you know damon is gonna need a bunch this year….. >.>
Brackman is overrated.
He already 23 years old and yet to throw a pitch in professional baseball. He is a project. He had bad college numbers, control problems, doesn’t have a changeup, and is 6’10 so is he will take a while to figure out his mechanics.
A Cashman specialty—an injured pitcher with a ton of question marks and about a 10% chance of reaching his ceiling.
Pete—mel has a great blog following the HWL
Watching CC makes me appreciate Hughes that much more. Hughes is a proven big game performer while CC bombs in every playoff game he has been in.
I don’t think Joba will be a great big game pitcher just because I can see him trying to overpower guys too much, but Hughes already is. He is unflappable.
Keep the kids, only sign Lowe because he is a big game performer too.
“Brackman is overrated.
He already 23 years old and yet to throw a pitch in professional baseball”
hes not 23 yet….Andrew Brackman P R R 6’ 10” 270 age 22 12-04-1985…stop with the overrated nonesense…just the fact that hes making his second (2) pro start tonight shows how silly it is to say hes overrated…
The Mariners sound as dysfunctional as a team can possibly be. No GM, no manager and veterans who a publicly saying they don’t want to be part of a rebuilding plan.
No wonder Cash stayed in NY.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008223345_apbbaflightofthemariners1stldwritethru.html
I think it is unfair to say that CC Sabathia bombs in every playoff game he has pitched.
He indeed had his troubles last year, but this one should remember that he has pitched four or five games in a row on 3 days rest and some of those have been complete games.
I think the Brewer’s have overused him particularly in the last month and he just didn’t have any gas left in the tank tonight.
I completely agree that Hughes has a great future. At the same time to compare him at this point in his career to Sabathia is interesting. I’m not trying to disparage Hughes but you are calling a pitcher unflappable who did not win a single game this year.
Randy Johnson didn’t figure it out until he was 30.
Brackman has plenty of time. Though he does seem like a guy, so far in his career, who does not pitch up to his stuff and underachives. He should strikeout every batter with the ball coming out his hand 96 MPH with movement from a 6’11 man with that knuckle curve. He looks to be way too hittable for a guy with that stuff, like Burnett. Hopefully Nardi can hammer him out.
No political posts here, please. None. Take it someplace else.
You won’t get away this time, Dooku.
“I’m not trying to disparage Hughes but you are calling a pitcher unflappable who did not win a single game this year.”
most pitchers would flap a lot of they lost every game. not hughes, unflappable.
and in losing every game , you have to give him that’s he’s very consistent.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure the Cubs are cursed.
I can see Brackman ending up in the pen. For one thing it will get him to the majors quicker. He has 2 plus pitches which is good enough to be a reliever. Unless he could develop a change up quickly I would make him a reliever.
I totally agree, Rebecaa…
yeah. Cursed.
cubs ARE cursed
Brackman and Bleich…..Cashman’s hopefuls for 2010… “Generation _????” Next year, amidst mediocre performance from these two, management will trumpet them as the “Arms of the Future”, as the immediate needs will be filled only with hot air next year.
the cubs have to be cursed, nothing else can explain whats happening.
Wow CUBS stink. They are cursed!!
lets hear all the “But the NL sucks!” cries. Comon, you know who you are.
5 runs in the NL is like 1 in the AL, right?
Cubs are done
Torre Magic.
Yanks lead 5-0!
Brackman is overrated.
He already 23 years old and yet to throw a pitch in professional baseball. He is a project. He had bad college numbers, control problems, doesn’t have a changeup, and is 6′10 so is he will take a while to figure out his mechanics.
A Cashman specialty– an injured pitcher with a ton of question marks and about a 10% chance of reaching his ceiling.
10 % chance of reaching his high ceiling ? After TJS he is hittin 96 MPH at times 97 , he has 3 plus pitches, 2 potentially plus plus. Name a big pitcher that got it so early ?
Chris Young was traded before he could get it no one believed a tall pitcher like him would get control now look at him.
Randy Johnson another late bloomer because he was 7’0 tall and location/arm angles are the first thing they have to contend with. Either learn your pitching prospects or shut up and HWL do you know how many prospects that are over there are top tiers ? do you know how it is not to pitch for 1 yr. and half and then to pick up a ball in your first official pro ball setting ? Yeh my bet is no.
“Manny & The Juniors” are doing their thing. They may well take the tour all the way to Beantown.
If Girardi managed the game, they would have scored 6 runs.
Cubs are cursed.
Buster….I do believe the AL is better than the NL.
Just one small indicator is the All Star record the last 10-15 years.
The two WS the Sox won they swept the NL team.
Just my opinion.
Cubs are cursed.
Buster-How do you figure?
Wow! the academic in me is statrting to believe in curses.
It’s amazing how irrational baseball makes me.
In order for the Cubs to reverse their curse, they will have to come back from an 0-2 deficit in the division series, and then come back from an 0-3 deficit TWICE in the NLCS and World Series.
It’s possible…
Plus many consider the AL East the toughest division in baseball.
I hate the Dodgers but I do kind of enjoy seeing the Cubbies suffer.
2 with over 90 wins, and 1 within a game of 90. I’d say that is the best division in baseball.
Go listen to Pet Sounds, Pete.
The most talented Cubs team in 100 years and they will get swept in the 1st round.
Curses do exist.
You know the funny thing is? I think the Cubs will hae an easier time of it in LA and be back in Wrigley for a (heartbreaking) game five.
What are Hank, Hal, and Levine thinking as they are watching this?
While our current manager is getting busted for lying, our former manager is about to go to the WS.
If they don’t feel sad/upset/angry/infuriated, then they don’t have a pulse.
Wow the cubs are not looking too good huh.
dodgers baby! Mattingly’s ring!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wasn’t saying the NL is not inferior. I’m pointing out the number of people who seem to totally discredit the NL as a “AAA league”. I wouldn’t really measure the All star game as an indicator. Rather, count the WS champs, which I believe is 8-4 in the last 12 years
about to go to the ws? A little early for that proclamation don’t ya think?
They’ve won one game, this game is still very early, and they still have another round to go thru.
Lets also not forget the choke job that Joe T lead the Yankees to in 2004.
Rumor has it that the farm director has instructed all scouting personnel to focus only on pitching prospects in need of TJ surgery. If a prospect’s ligs and other relevant parts are in good working condition, pass. Let’s repair and start from scratch.
Phillies will never beat this team in the ALDS, they are going to the WS easy. They have magic. Torre and Manny have them believing.
Just like Torre had the Yankees believing for the last 3 years? Okay.
lets not forget the choke job the cubs pull… all the time…
The Phillies are the most scariest offense you’d ever want to bump into. Your talking about the same team that stepped into LA and swept them.
Buster,
I certainly think there are some very good teams and players in the NL, and I would never equate the NL with AAA.
At the same time, it seems that many pitchers who excell in the NL don’t fare as well in the AL.
And now torre can win as many postseason games in 2 days as he did in the last two years at the helm of our beloved.
To quote that horrid mid 90’s one hit wonder 2 Non Blondes, “What The “Heck” Is Going On Here!!!!”
well, they believed to rally to make the playoffs, yeah i do. The team of 2005-2007 had been declared DEAD at all star break or slightly before.
Mel, you started blogging too? Thats awesome.
Good for you!
jennifer—why hate on joe torre?
i happen to be glad to see a former beloved manager and first baseman leading a team that isnt even in the AL to a possible championship
Someone tell me what inning it is in the Cubs game ? Last I checked 3rd or 4th inning right ? Don’t count that offense out.
Buster: Daily News declared the Yanks dead last year on 4 July.
Okay, okay, I know it’s the News…but that’s totally not the point.
You have to feel for Zambrano – 1 ER, 4 unearned.
I am still very bitter over 2004. Sorry. I think he should have been gone after that.
This team was so bad this year, no one, St. Joe, Casey, Sweet Lou, Billy or management by committee could have won.
im so bitter, i wish we had torre
girardi was a disaster. we are seeing first hand what torre meant to the franchise.
this franchise is an embarassment. hank is worse than james dolan.
Brandon,
Bottom of the third.
I’m not sure Billingsley can pitch w/ a 5-0 lead it’s going to come down to the BP.
The breakdown, which was dramatic, sudden and abrupt in 04, simply continued in spiral down mode over the next four years, as the bodies crumpled, the spirits dissipated, and here we are. Is it a coincidence or just happenstance that 04 was the beginning of the A-rod era?
it would have been justified if Torre was gone after 2004, but he wasn’t. And it was time to go in 2008. But not the way it happened.
Anyways, good luck to all the ex-yankees. In this series, I just will root for Proctor, Mattingly, Bowa, and Torre more than Lilly, Lou, and Soriano.
Now I know why we traded Sori..my god Billingsley wasn’t throwing strikes it was 2-0 force him to use more than 3 pitches to get you jesus.
Tom,
Dolan is much better than Hank, atleast Dolan stays out of the media and keeps his mouth shut.
The breakdown, which was dramatic, sudden and abrupt in 04, simply continued in spiral down mode over the next four years, as the bodies crumpled, the spirits dissipated, and here we are. Is it a coincidence or just happenstance that 04 was the beginning of the A-rod era?
That also was the beginning of the Javy Vasquez/Kevin Brown era.
.218 career BA in the postseason for soriano as of last nights 0’fer game. 18 mil for a leadoff guy who gets hurt often.
I’m kind of upset my TV at my parents’ house doesn’t have an SAP button so I can’t practice my Spanish.
But that aside.
When Kevin Brown punched a wall, there was only so much Joe Torre could do.
The Yankees didn’t fail in 2004 because of Joe Torre. They failed because Dave Roberts stole second and they didn’t now how to regain a momentum that before they had always had.
What is Torre’s legacy? 04 to 07? 96 to 01? 96 to 07? If it’s the whole enchilada do you weight the early years? the late years? or strike a balance? or question how relevant really is the manager?
I may have to quit watching baseball if a Dodgers-Red Sox WS manifested itself.
Dolan is much better than Hank, atleast Dolan stays out of the media and keeps his mouth shut.
Dolan is TOOL ! don’t even get me started on that piece of crap ! banning Ewing and Checketts and Grunfield, keeping Oakley unemployed catering to every crap that Isiah Thomas’s regime damaged. DON’T GET ME STARTED !
If Mariano gets 3 outs (in consecutive games, mind you) then we win.
Mariano is responsible for 2001 and 2004.
It should have never even gotten to a game 6.
tom-
Are you saying Torre would have made a difference on the Yanks this year? How?
I’m saying it here so everyone will know, and that I can be known as the one who said it first.
The Dodgers will win the World Series this year.
Are you saying Torre would have made a difference on the Yanks this year? How?
The BP would have had a 5 ERA
Torre’s Legacy: 4 WS in first 5 years. Greatest Collapse in sports history . Didn’t get out of the first round the last 3 years. Made postseason all 12 years. Turned down an incentive ladened “Offer”. Went to LA and took Mattingly with him. Likes Green Tea.
Lee is a GG 1st baseman and Derosa is a very slick fielding 2B and they both make errors.
The Cubs ARE cursed.
So, the Dodgers took advantage of the ivy. That should be disallowed. I wonder if you know who thinks there’s barbed wire in YS?
Rebecca & Pete, thanks for the nod.
Buster,
Add to that. The man who wears really big shoes.
Other than in really extreme situations, is the manager really that important? Until Manny arrived in town the local press often had a field day heaping criticism on Torre. Then Manny arrives and ignites Ethier, Loney, Kemp, Martin and even Kent (tho he denies it), and here we are. Would the result have been the same with Grady Little still at the helm? I would guess yes but we’ll never know. Joe has managed well but nothing exceptional other than rolling with Manny, letting him do his thing, and giving him free reign in the clubhouse….in that respect, Joe gets an A..not all managers would have let it play out.
When your team puts a lot of runs on the board the manager’s good.
When your team strands guys by the dozen, the manager’s terrible.
Unfair, but that’s the way it is.
Torre is very lucky in that Arizona chose not to show up for the second half of the season.
Girardi was very unlucky that the Yankees chose not to show up in the first half of the season.
DAmn Derek Lee has some tough hands
mel: No problem.
I don’t blame Mo for 2001. He had one bad outing that just happened to be game 7, but it should never have gotten to game 7. We should have won game 6.
2004, again, Mo had a couple bad performances, but if the rest of the team had done it’s job it wouldn’t have mattered. Okay, so there was one game he legitimately blew, but that’s ot the point.
If Cashman has any compassion for Girardi, he puts a dominant team on the field next year and gives him a team that can win. He does not deserve this constant bashing and Torre comparisons for the team underperforming. Get him some real ballplayers and trade for some real pitchers. Stop leaving Girardi out to dry.
Rebecca, so what you are saying is MO is responsible for 2004?
I agree.
Joe has been much more attentive and more in the game this year than in his last 5 years or so with the Yankees. He is always on the first step of the dugout with either his pitching or bench coach, or both, at his side focussing on the game. Most unlike his last 4-5 years in pinstripes when he was generally seated comfortably holding Jeter’s bat in the dugout, often appearing to be in a sonombulent state. By his own admission the last 3 years or so in NY were not fun, and it showed and perhaps affected his ability to manage. As he had said, he likes LA and is having fun again.
Manny strikes AGAIN!
HR
Meaningless.
manny goes deep—-it’s so weird seeing him slapping bowa’s hand on his way around…isnt it?
Manny did it again. 6—0, and Joe looks like a genius.
Damn, I don’t care what Manny does off the field, I want him as the DH.
Manny is growing on me.
Manny is a freak
He is amazing…
Nomar, Manny, Lowe. Its weird seeing me want them to do good. But I’ll root for many redsocks fan watching fever pitch if they do play the sox in the WS….
Harden is the Cubs best pitcher. He will get them a victory.
Lilly is a big game pitcher too ready for game 4. Cubs lineup is full of right handed bats they will pound Kershaw. Maddux doesn’t stand a chance either if Torre chooses him.
This series will come back to Wrigley. The Wrigley ghosts will come out and propel them to victory.
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Cashman better get Manny.
I don’t want Cc, Sheets, or Tex. I want Manny as the DH.
Trade Matsui to the NL to be a DH somewhere, we need Manny.
What are you nuts I’d still take CC over all of them.
Hate to say it, but if it comes down to the Sox and Dodgers for the title, I’ll root for the Sox.
I cannot root for this Dodgers team.
Yeah Mr. Torre has been lucky these last 13 years. Just bumping ass backwards into the playoff’s all those years, winning world series, setting records for most total wins in a season, managing to keep the lid on in the pressure cooker that is New York, winning on the left coast with an inferior Dodger team and earning himself a place in the Yankee pantheon. Just Lucky my aunt fanny! The guy is a great manager, the more people deny that the less informed and more bitter they appear. Why is it so hard for some to admit the man is good and that we were lucky to have him?
It’s too late for this nonsense.
The only question is: Can Manny play 1B?
manny doesn’t want to play for NYY.
Don’t be surprised if there is a “99” in pinstripes next year..if McCourt doesn’t pony up the $$$$$ Boros wants. Don’t you think Cashman will speak at length with Torre, who will respond earnestly since that is his way. Given his public statements (and those of Bowa and Mattingly) the input is a given. As reported, all Manny wants to do is play baseball (for big $$$$ of course) and then go home.
“manny doesn’t want to play for NYY.”
Do we need this stupid rumor for every FA? Manny is from NY. He would LOVE to be a DH for the Yankees.
CC = playoff fraud.
This is the same trap that Cashbum has fallen into since 2001. First off the guy doesn’t want to be here, he will only come here if we severely outbid. He is also a playoff bum. He doesn’t have what it takes to handle the East Coast and he knows it.
Use that money for legit playoff performers like Manny and Lowe.
Go to Vegas much SOS???????
S.o.S.27
December 27th, 2007 at 6:49 pm
Lets hope the conditioning coach doesnt get in the way of the 08 start.
08 predictions
Santana’s a Yankee and wins Cy Young
Girardi Manager of the Year
Arod Back to Back MVP
Jeter wins batting title
Giambi is the 08 version of Fielder(pinch hitter)
Damon steals 35 bases
Cano hits 25 homeruns and 310 avg.
Matsui traded
Miranda takes over firstbase
Duncan rotates dh and right field
Wang wins 19 games
Kennedy rookie of the year
ALL STARS Cano,Jeter,Arod,Santana,Wang,Posada.
27th Championship over the Dodgers. 4-1 Jeter gives Torre his bat to keep.
Bill Porter,
He was and still is a good man, but you’ve got to admit that this has more to do with Manny and Arizona, right?
unreal
Were he to be here, it would be as the DH…tho he just went back to the wall and plucked the ball off the ivy..no wall phobia for the ManRam.
“harwood
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Manny is from NY. He would LOVE to be a DH for the Yankees.”
no he wouldn’t. Ask Brandon.
I don’t know what’s scarier. That SoS was so wrong or that youk actually kept that post.
Technically, Miranda did take over 1B.
MEL—
LMAO
I have heard just as many “reports” that he wants to play in NY as he doesn’t. The only specific negative I heard was a few years ago that he was not then interested im playing for the Mets.
those who want manny are falling into the same trap this team has been since 01…no thanks
also, sabathia once again failed in a postseason game!
look at the pitchers who are winning in the playoffs? billingsly, shields, myers, lowe, lester, hamels
i know they are not all slouches but they are also not $100 million dollar top name pitchers!
Jas*n B*y (MVP) >>> Manny Ramirez
So much young power pitching this year
Billingsly, Hameles, Shields, Lester, Myers, Lackey, Gallardo
We need to build around Hughes and Joba.
harwood: Brandon is the blog source on Manny. He says Manny doesn’t want to come to NY, he’s not coming.
An interesting fact.
After Boston traded Manny it had the best record in the American League!
ER, We will see a Yankees-Red Sox WS
Torre, Mattingly, Bowa, Proctor, Manny going back to Fenway this October.
What a disaster! I feel so horrible for Girardi, it wasn’t his fault he was chosen to replace Torre. Nobody should degrade him, all your anger should be directed towards Hank Dolan.
Most depressing October in franchise history? Not only are we not in it, but the results are turning out to be worst case scenario.
The first issue will be whether McCourt want to pay anything close to what Boros will ask. Certainly not beyond a 2 year deal since it is difficult to fathom Manny as anything other than a DH beyond 2 years, at most. Realistically, that should eliminate alL NL teams if the Yankees are interested.If they are, he will be here, unless he really doesn’t want to play here but I find that diffcult to believe.
Do we need this stupid rumor for every FA? Manny is from NY. He would LOVE to be a DH for the Yankees.
He told his own friends in Washington Heights. There’s more of him that wants to go down as a NY legend killer, he told some people he’d want to play in Florida or Philly, one of his closest coach Charlie Manuel in Philly was his batting coach in Cleveland if Philly decides to let Burrell walk Manny being Manny will hit Philly. Also his home is in Florida and they’d be looking to add a big name on that team he nearly was dealt to FLA on deadline day had FLA not balked.
“harwood: Brandon is the blog source on Manny. He says Manny doesn’t want to come to NY, he’s not coming.”
Ive seen him post about it before. I see no reason to buy into the an anonymous person posting inside info in a blog comments section.
If we can move Matsui Manny in NY makes sense for him and us.
Guys, Who needs Manny? We have Brett Gardner!
I will only believe news from Bobcat. Nobody else has any valid sources.
sign Burnett.
No NL team is going to give Manny more than 2 years. His greatest asset is his bat. It won’t slow down for many years. It was so sad to see how old and broken down Vlad looks. Especially against the Red Sox.
Do you think the players are rooting for or against Torre?
I think all of them are rooting for him just to spite Hank and show him what he missed. Hank knows nothing about baseball though, so I don’t think it matters.
Wow, mel got a little blurb up top.
If we can move Matsui Manny in NY makes sense for him and us.
In what way ?, I’m not disagreeing w/ moving Matsui, you Girardi’s word to be the loudest in that lockerroom, Georgy doesn’t like Manny, Alex is one of Manny’s best friends off the field, can you imagine the first sign of trouble after a botched play ? or him coming late to BP, that won’t slide in NY or in a lockerroom w/ Georgy, Mo and Jetes. Manny also is not an everyday OF you trot him out there day by day he will get hurt.
“he told some people he’d want to play in Florida or Philly,”
NL florida? Mannys next contract has DH written all over it. Im pretty sure Ive heard him quoted outside blog comments as saying he doesnt want to play the field for his next contract.
It’s funny to me because GI Joe and Cashman have both agreed on one thing w/ the next OF acquistion or player brought up, he has to be athletic to play in that OF, they are starting to value the 5 tool approach this offseason.
Odessy: It doesn’t get worse than 1986.
Wilson,
The players are rooting for Mr. T. because they love him.
The Mets collapse really helped out the Yankees. They had a lead down the stretch, but blew it. I think that gave Hank & Co. some degree of satisfaction.
Im pretty sure Ive heard him quoted outside blog comments as saying he doesnt want to play the field for his next contract.
Where ? because I never heard that. You’d think people around High Bridge would say that if it were true.
Posada is irrelevent. This is Arod and Jeter’s franchise now.
Jorge also said he will not play any 1B and told us to make our prized phenom a reliever. He also amditted to
Kay he would have gone to the Mets if he gave them the extra year. He is not a team player, he is a mercenary.
Wow. The Cubs need to play their postseason in april, or something.
Or maybe November.
Where are we going to get this mythical 5 tool OF?
Jackson has 5 tools but doesn’t excel at any of them, he is solid, not spectacular.
Gardner has 1 tool.
Rebecca,
If this score holds up, they will have been outscored 13-2 in the first 2 games.
Posada is not a mercenary.
and you’re nuts.
Soriano seems to be hitting inches above the ball. Maybe he’s hoping for a big cut that will never come..
mel: Why does that remind me of 1996?
“Now I know why we traded Sori..my god Billingsley wasn’t throwing strikes it was 2-0 force him to use more than 3 pitches to get you jesus.”
Soriano strikes out again. Brandon, this is why I’m not totally against the Yankees trading Cano. IMO Robi is a very similar player to Soriano with a bit better defense. But they have similar bad at bats, despite loads of talent. If we can get young high on base guys with a better approach or pitching for Robi, you have to consider it imo.
Where are we going to get this mythical 5 tool OF?
Jackson has 5 tools but doesn’t excel at any of them, he is solid, not spectacular.
Gardner has 1 tool.
Aparently you need to learn patience. We don’t know where they may come from, it may be from a trade or internal. Meanwhile I hear ya on Gardner yet Girardi loves him and alot of people believe he has bounce back ability so they will let him earn his shot.
Did they issue Manny a used batting helmet? How else could it get so dirty so quick?
Rebecca,
Were you even born?
posada irrelevant?
i can’t believe what i just read.
“can you imagine the first sign of trouble after a botched play ? or him coming late to BP, that won’t slide in NY or in a lockerroom w/ Georgy, Mo and Jetes.”
Obviously. We all know Manny comes with baggage. And I honestly think what he did in Boston was disgusting. But this isnt Boston.
If there are problems so be it. Get though them. The guy is up for grabs and hes one of the best active hitters. All time even.
And his friendship with Arod plays into it. Arod is our ambassador to Manny. Arod will keep him cool. Can you imagine some of our hitters benefiting from listening in on Arod/Manny conversations? God what if he teaches Arod to hit in the clutch?
If we make room and Cash is willing to risk the down side Manny is coming here. I believe that. Even if you have some third hand info of Manny once saying something it means nothing. Manny flipped on a dime on Boston and retiring there. He doesnt say something and mean it. He just talks.
“Meaningless Stats
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Where are we going to get this mythical 5 tool OF?”
the location where unicorns come from. Doesn’t matter. I like the fact NYY is trying to move/operate in this direction.
Soriano strikes out again. Brandon, this is why I’m not totally against the Yankees trading Cano. IMO Robi is a very similar player to Soriano with a bit better defense. But they have similar bad at bats, despite loads of talent. If we can get young high on base guys with a better approach or pitching for Robi, you have to consider it imo.
I don’t compare Sori to Robi, IMO Robi’s a better hitter, it’s going to be interesting w/ Alex and Kevin working w/ him in D.R. how he bounces back from his one bad yr.
Tabata was our 5 tool OF’er, but would they preferred trading him for a 1 tool (if you consider his 20 HR power a tool) player in Nady.
Trades like that are why you can’t trust Cashman
Zambrano gets an ovation for giving up 6 runs? I must have missed some crucial aspect of the game. I suspect the 3 errors had something to do with it.
Manny will be welcome by Yankee fans because gave Boston the big medial-digit.
this is why I’m not totally against the Yankees trading Cano. IMO Robi is a very similar player to Soriano with a bit better defense.
If Cano could regain his 2006 form with his new stance, he would be unstoppable. He will be a excellent asset to our team and will be very valuable, which will be why Cashman decided to sign him long term.
That’s the difference between Yankee fans and Cub fans. Zambrano gets taken out after giving up 6 runs and the Cub fans cheer him. A-Rod gets booed, no appreciation for the efforts or his ability.
Pretty sad for NY.
Cano hit .340 with 50 double, 20 HR power with GG defense. He is such a good hitter, you do not give up on him.
manny can teach Arod how to hit in the clutch.
now i’ve heard it all, on this board.
I believe Zambrano only gave up 2 earned runs.
Is Zambrano crying?
Well, okay..maybe not..but he looks like he might start
mel: I was born in 1986
vinny-b
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:31 pm
“Meaningless Stats
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Where are we going to get this mythical 5 tool OF?â€
the location where unicorns come from. Doesn’t matter. I like the fact NYY is trying to move/operate in this direction.
“We’re off to Candy Mountain…”
thats why Cubs fans are the most loyal and best in sports. thats why they deserve to win over the frontrunning Dodgers fans.
Manny flipped on a dime on Boston and retiring there. He doesnt say something and mean it. He just talks.
You think Manny leaving Boston was a surprise to me ? or us from Washington Heights ?
He’s been hating it there for 2 yrs. prior to this yr. alot of stuff that you don’t know went on over there in deciding to leave.
Brackman starts in 1.5 hours.
Brandon: You told us
If the Yanks were to consider Manny, Damon would be the most valuable source of info as to whether the relationship could work.
Maybe one reason Cubs have this century-old problem is that Cubs fans cheer poor outcomes exactly the same as good ones? Think about it.
mel
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:33 pm
“Manny will be welcome by Yankee fans because gave Boston the big medial-digit”
And I believe Boston fans will laugh their heads off when Manny knows he has his big contract, doesn’t have to really run to first or play hard, laughs when he misfields a ball, decides his knees hurt and can’t play, and physically assaults the Yankee ticket secretary when he doesn’t get the tickets he wants.
Watching guys like Billingsly, Hamels, Shields, etc. this postseason should show why we should not give up on Hughes. That could be us next year.
Rebecca I remember being called a liar to this then everyone was spooked. I really don’t care if people believe it or not, just don’t make false statements. For instance someone had the audacity to say Manny wants to play in NY, no he doesn’t, he’s looking for a big pay day the one thing he hates about NY is he wouldn’t live relaxed at all, there’s a reason he doesn’t live in NY, there’s a reason his family is spread in Florida and D.R. and there’s a reason he dispises the media, yet people here are telling me he’d loves to play here. He grew up hating the Yankees, that is a fact, he never wanted to come here and hasn’t changed there one bit.
Man. the Cubs are painful to watch.
for the love of God, not another viagra commercial
Omar is drooling too thinking about an outfield of Fernando Martinez-Beltran-Manny
with an infield of Wright-Reyes-Murphy and a solid guy like Kotchman playing 1st? A winning catcher like AJ Prezynski becoming the leader?
With K-Rod closing games and Bobby Parnell, Eddie Kunz, Smith, and Stokes setting up?
They could be a young, winning team Omar assembles in Queens.
Brandon, algunas veces pienso que sabes Manny
*pienso que conoces Manny.
es la misma cosa.
Mark Cuban is going to make sure this doesn’t happen again next year—- CC will be there guaranteed. CC did list Chicago as his favorite road city.
ray,
Don’t be bitter. We won’t let him touch the outfield grass. And guess what? He beat out the force play at first yesterday!
Anyway, you guys got Bay. No one in Boston cares where Manny goes or what he does. He means nothing.
Brandon,
What you say may be true, but if the suitors don’t line up like they didn’t for Alex this past winter he might decide that NYS might be a nice change of scenery after all.
mel,
I’m honestly not bitter, just amused. Of course Manny beat out the force play yesterday. Right now he is playing for the last huge contract of his career!
For all the Manny love here tonight, you’d think he actually done something of significance in this game. He struck out twice, hit a HR when they were up by 5 and drew a walk.
Isn’t that the same stuff A-Rod gets booed for?
The hero tonight was the pitching, not Manny.
“He’s been hating it there for 2 yrs. prior to this yr.”
No. What Manny does is come contract time he says he loves you then he hates you then he loves you then he hates you again. Then he gets what he wants or stops playing till you trade him.
http://wbztv.com/sports/redsox/Boston.Red.Sox.2.659455.html
“For instance someone had the audacity to say Manny wants to play in NY”
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08092008/sports/yankees/mannys_revenge_eyes_bx_123658.htm
Rebecca si yo los conocÃa te digo que el blog nuncas lo supieras.
pat,
That’s not my point. My only thing is that Manny’s one of the best pure hitters. That’s all I care about. Well some good pitching would help, but from what I’ve seen Manny’s arm’s not very strong.
Oh look! The cubbies scored a run
pat: personally, wouldn’t be mentioning Arod and Manny in the same sentence. Not as far as hitting is concerned.
Oohh! A point!
Brandon: No es palabra para ‘blog’ en español?
Siempre te creo, pero no soy la chica màs inteligente en el mundo
Snap they scored a run !
“That’s the difference between Yankee fans and Cub fans. Zambrano gets taken out after giving up 6 runs and the Cub fans cheer him. A-Rod gets booed, no appreciation for the efforts or his ability”
i heard many a boo from cub fans today
el impermeable
once this game is over, i could imagine tomorrow’s newspaper headline: Torre, 1 step closer to the World Series.
vinny-b
I’ve been watching baseball much longer than Rebecca has been alive (ouch) and when history is written, Manny and A-Rod will be mentioned in the same sentence and probably not in the order that you would like them to be.
Where’s Nick?
OSU’s about to redeem the Pac-10 against the Mountain West.
I’m guessing Rebecca is the youngest one here? I’m young myself too, but I was born in ‘84.
The media will be insufferable tomorrow, with Francessa leading the parade.
And he won’t mention Billingsly, Martin, or Frucal—- it will all be Torre and Manny.
pat: even if it were the case, statistics don’t always tell the story. Much like some/many accounts of history.
TBS needs to stop showing the cubs fans. It’s depressing
And the Dodgers kick the extra point. I might turn this off the Cub fans are making me want to cry.
Brandon –
According to Kat O’Brien by via e-mail:
I’m wondering how cheap are we talking?
maybe it’s the jerseys. Did the cubs go with their pinstripes yesterday?
So who woulda thunk the lowly 84 win dodgers would maybe sweep the team w/ the best record?
I certainly didn’t. But then again, the cubs could win three in a row. They do have the talent and pitching.
Chicago sports radio should be interesting tomorrow..er..later today.
These fans are making me sad.
Ed,
The question is how does Garko hit against teams other than the Yankees?
Harden and Lilly are better than Dempster and Zombrano
Cubs will be back in Wrigley next Wednesday.
Wow Manny and the Dodgers are bulldozing the Cubs…
You think the pressure of not winning a championship since 2000 is overbearing. Try 100 years. This will be a tough hole to dig out of.
The cubs look like the 2007 Yankees so far, just simply outpitched.
Even Marmol is getting hit now.
This series is over.
Congrats Torre, show Hank what we’ve been missing and make him squirm—couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
Buster
My guess is the lowly 84 win Dodgers would have had a better record with Furcal leading off[out after back surgery] and Manny as the catalyst for a full year. I’d take Martin, Ethier, Loney, and Kemp and give you Posada,
Abreu, Giambi, and Cabrera. I’d even throw in Hughes and Kennedy for Billingsly and Kuo!!!
This is not a terrible team!!
Ryan Garko, he of the .750 ops? I thought the idea was to get better.
And yes I know his career OPS is .800, which would have been good for 18th best in baseball for a first baseman.
What’s the Torre obsession about? The Yankees and most of the fans have moved on.
tom-
You never responded why the Yankees would have been better with Torre?
Ed: I usually am the youngest one on here.
I don’t know if that’s a good thing or not.
Mel—what’s wrong with rooting for our former manager?
if the yanks aren’t in it—i’d love to see joe torre and donnie B get a ring
mel – its why I, and probably many, root for the dodgers now.
Torre, Mattingly, Bowa, Proctor >>> Pinella, Soriano, Lilly
I could care less about the dodgers otherwise. Its the only yankee connection to the playoffs that I have any sentiments to.
I want Teixeria.
of course, I want Manny first and foremost
But get a real 1st baseman please, a 2 way player who can hit and field. stop using that as a 2nd DH for aging players like jorge or matsui. get a real 1B.
you are seeing first hand how important defense is in the playoffs.
Mel-
Totally agree. Torre turned down 5M for one year to go to LA, drive his convertible Mercedes down Rodeo Drive, and drink green tea. I wish him all the best, and hope his real right hand man-Bowa comes back to the Yankees!!
This is the most depressing game I have ever seen. If I was a dodger fan, I’d restrain myself not for fear of retaliation, but sympathy for cubs fans…as I speak, theriot errors a throw to first
Jesus just throw the gloves away Cubs…I’m sorry but you are cursed !
Has Mike Francessa cursed this board?
Why is everyone so obsessed with Torre? What he does has no baring on the Yankees, unless you let the words of Joel Sherman and Bill Madden’s influence your existence.
I’m just saying, why obsess about Torre’s impending success? Like it makes our plight any worse? We’re still the same team. We still have a bright future.
I don’t care if people boo or cheer for the guy. Just saying that it’s time to move on.
Has Mike Francessa cursed this board?
Why is everyone so obsessed with Torre? What he does has no baring on the Yankees, unless you let the words of Joel Sherman and Bill Madden’s influence your existence.
an we just support our current manager pkease
*Can we support our current manager please
vinny b
I don’t need stats, all I need is eyes. I accept that baseball is a game of failures and I can appreciate a player for what they do; not condemn them for what they don’t do.
Cheering successes are more fun to me than dwelling on negatives. Someday I’ll be able to tell my grandkids that I saw a player hit 3 HRs and drive in 10RBI in one game. I can tell them I saw the same player hit his 6 or 700th HR. How many players can I say that about? Probably only 1 or 2.
Now you can say that I could also tell them that I saw a guy strike out or pop up with the bases loaded down by a run too. But how many could I say that about? 1000+.
The FG is GOOD !
Raiders 10 Cubs 1
Mel –
Here are his career numbers against the AL east:
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
vs. BAL 11 42 6 10 2 0 0 4 4 12 0 0 .238 .313 .286 .598
vs. BOS 12 40 1 9 3 0 1 5 0 6 0 0 .225 .326 .375 .701
vs. TB 21 77 12 24 9 0 3 17 4 13 0 0 .312 .365 .545 .910
vs. TOR 15 58 8 18 6 1 2 9 3 12 0 0 .310 .369 .552 .921
”*Can we support our current manager please”
Absolutely! Where is he playing GOLF tomorrow?
Is that a howling wind or do boo birds come out at night?
Sorry if this “Torre lovefest” bothers some, but thats only because of an incorrect assumption that for every success Torre gets, Girardi loses. We are simply rooting for our former manager on a blog about the yankees. Hey, if the Yanks were in it, I could care less about the Dodgers. But I have no other reason to watch.
might be time for the cubs fans to make a deal with the devil
What a pitiful game
Rebecca –
of course its a good thing. we could learn something new everyday that we didn’t know about.
“I’m guessing Rebecca is the youngest one here? I’m young myself too, but I was born in ‘84.”
im 19
they had a priest sprinkling holy water and blessing the cubs dugout, prior to game 1.
don’t know where that goat was, but the Father might’ve needed to cover the entire stadium.
Ed,
Sign him up!
Wow the Cubs are just getting embarrassed. Wood and Marmol both get rocked.
“This is the most depressing game I have ever seen”
Did you not watch gm 7 of 2004 alcs?
Ralphie D –
I posted that became you came on tonight.
RalphieD,
Are you DFox? He’s also 19.
I knew it was dangerous when everyone jumped on their bandwagon. They never perform when that happens.
Mel –
Garko would be available via trade. Kat O’ Brien said he will come cheaply in a trade. So I’m guessing how cheap would it cost? Kennedy and some B prospects?
“Are you DFox? He’s also 19.”
no i am not lol?
Tom: I left after the Damon GS. But, most Yankee fans were and still are demand the WS title. In this case, they just want to win a game.