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		<title>By: rover</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/10/07/rivera-has-surgery-on-shoulder/comment-page-7/#comment-562565</link>
		<dc:creator>rover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess its official the season ended when torre walked. Truth be told I never could understand the sweets in the lockeroom thingy. To much Hitler and not enough daddy for the prima donnas. I mean that affectionately of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess its official the season ended when torre walked. Truth be told I never could understand the sweets in the lockeroom thingy. To much Hitler and not enough daddy for the prima donnas. I mean that affectionately of course.</p>
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		<title>By: SJ44</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/10/07/rivera-has-surgery-on-shoulder/comment-page-7/#comment-562562</link>
		<dc:creator>SJ44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doreen,

If I was recruiting CC, I&#039;d send Jeter, Tino, Damon and Girardi and tell Girardi to be quiet!  lol

Seriously though, I&#039;d talk about the vision for the team, why they will be competitive every year, the new stadium (VERY friendly to lefty pitchers), and how the bullpen will add years to his career.

I&#039;d talk about how special it is to win as a Yankee.  I&#039;d also talk about how being a Yankee helps you bigtime when it comes to voting for the Hall of Fame.

I&#039;d talk about how unique NYC is.  If you want action, there is action.  If you want privacy, you&#039;ve got it.

That&#039;s where Jeter comes in.  He comes and goes as he pleases in NYC, without any hassles from people.

That would be my sales pitch.

Oh, one last thing.

The contract offer is going to be the biggest EVERY given to a pitcher.  lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doreen,</p>
<p>If I was recruiting CC, I&#8217;d send Jeter, Tino, Damon and Girardi and tell Girardi to be quiet!  lol</p>
<p>Seriously though, I&#8217;d talk about the vision for the team, why they will be competitive every year, the new stadium (VERY friendly to lefty pitchers), and how the bullpen will add years to his career.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d talk about how special it is to win as a Yankee.  I&#8217;d also talk about how being a Yankee helps you bigtime when it comes to voting for the Hall of Fame.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d talk about how unique NYC is.  If you want action, there is action.  If you want privacy, you&#8217;ve got it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where Jeter comes in.  He comes and goes as he pleases in NYC, without any hassles from people.</p>
<p>That would be my sales pitch.</p>
<p>Oh, one last thing.</p>
<p>The contract offer is going to be the biggest EVERY given to a pitcher.  lol</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/10/07/rivera-has-surgery-on-shoulder/comment-page-7/#comment-562557</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s 25 different personalities to manage for each game with some easier than others.   It&#039;s a manager&#039;s job to mesh them together on the same page with the peaks and valleys of a season and know as much as possible about the likes and dislikes of each one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s 25 different personalities to manage for each game with some easier than others.   It&#8217;s a manager&#8217;s job to mesh them together on the same page with the peaks and valleys of a season and know as much as possible about the likes and dislikes of each one.</p>
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		<title>By: Doreen</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/10/07/rivera-has-surgery-on-shoulder/comment-page-7/#comment-562556</link>
		<dc:creator>Doreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, SJ44 -

I do appreciate that response.  

So, if you&#039;re sent to help recruit CC Sabathia, what can you say that might be encouraging regarding Girardi?

And do you let Girardi do any recruiting calls?

So Girardi is in &quot;parent&quot; mode in the clubhouse.  Interesting.  I hadn&#039;t really seen what was wrong with restricting ice cream/candy/snacks.  But in the more general scope of clubhouse atmosphere, I can understand the larger implications of such a rule and why it might get a person off on the wrong foot.

I did understand the &quot;boot camp&quot; approach to spring training, however.  I felt it was Girardi&#039;s attempt at getting the team off to a better start.  It didn&#039;t work.  Neither did it help prevent injuries.  Injuries happen, I guess.  Perhaps this spring a little less &quot;boot,&quot; and a little more baseball &quot;camp&quot; - as in drilling the fundamentals - yet, not quite &quot;drilling&quot; because that would be too harsh, I guess.

But there was no doubt that being adamant that Giambi show up in shape helped.  Giambi played more games this season than he had in a while.  And most of them in the field.

So, I guess the devil is in the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, SJ44 -</p>
<p>I do appreciate that response.  </p>
<p>So, if you&#8217;re sent to help recruit CC Sabathia, what can you say that might be encouraging regarding Girardi?</p>
<p>And do you let Girardi do any recruiting calls?</p>
<p>So Girardi is in &#8220;parent&#8221; mode in the clubhouse.  Interesting.  I hadn&#8217;t really seen what was wrong with restricting ice cream/candy/snacks.  But in the more general scope of clubhouse atmosphere, I can understand the larger implications of such a rule and why it might get a person off on the wrong foot.</p>
<p>I did understand the &#8220;boot camp&#8221; approach to spring training, however.  I felt it was Girardi&#8217;s attempt at getting the team off to a better start.  It didn&#8217;t work.  Neither did it help prevent injuries.  Injuries happen, I guess.  Perhaps this spring a little less &#8220;boot,&#8221; and a little more baseball &#8220;camp&#8221; &#8211; as in drilling the fundamentals &#8211; yet, not quite &#8220;drilling&#8221; because that would be too harsh, I guess.</p>
<p>But there was no doubt that being adamant that Giambi show up in shape helped.  Giambi played more games this season than he had in a while.  And most of them in the field.</p>
<p>So, I guess the devil is in the details.</p>
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		<title>By: Y26</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y26</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sabathia is the closest FA to Maddux we have seen in recent years, in terms of personality. 

Wouldn&#039;t shock me if he goes West to play with Torre for less money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sabathia is the closest FA to Maddux we have seen in recent years, in terms of personality. </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t shock me if he goes West to play with Torre for less money.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who was the last player who turned down the Yankees for less money Gregg Maddux 15 years ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who was the last player who turned down the Yankees for less money Gregg Maddux 15 years ago?</p>
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		<title>By: Forntoso</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/10/07/rivera-has-surgery-on-shoulder/comment-page-6/#comment-562551</link>
		<dc:creator>Forntoso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Francessa/Kim/Carlin really improved as the day went on. The 1 o&#039;clock hour was a disaster. They found their roles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francessa/Kim/Carlin really improved as the day went on. The 1 o&#8217;clock hour was a disaster. They found their roles.</p>
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		<title>By: SJ44</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/10/07/rivera-has-surgery-on-shoulder/comment-page-6/#comment-562549</link>
		<dc:creator>SJ44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doreen,

The media has no influence on where free agents go, regardless of what they write.

When it comes to influence, aside from money, players, agents get their info from a variety of sources.

Players talk to other players all the time.

During Torre&#039;s time here, it was always known as a &quot;good place&quot; for veteran players because Torre didn&#039;t sweat the small stuff, treated them like adults, and they had good guys in the clubhouse.

That&#039;s not always the same in clubhouses around the game.

The Mets for example, have a real latin bent in the clubhouse.  For latin players, Omar is the patron saint.  For non-latin players?  They aren&#039;t as comfortable in that clubhouse.

FWIW, it was the same in Montreal when Omar was there.

The Red Sox, as opposed to how it was in the past, are known for having a good clubhouse.  Francona is really well liked by other players in the game, and a lot of guys take less money/years these days to go or stay in Boston.

Overall, the Yankees have a good rep, in terms of players, around the game.  Jeter, Mo, and Johnny Damon are among the most popular players among the players in baseball.

There are no real jerks in the clubhouse.  Overall, its a good group of guys.

The change, and it remains to be seen how it plays out with other players, is Girardi.

I know a lot of guys in the game.  I know veteran players aren&#039;t going to be comfortable around Girardi unless he smooths out the rough edges.

CC Sabathia&#039;s reputation around the game is pretty interesting.  He&#039;s basically a guy who likes being happy.  Sort of a California cool kind of guy.

I don&#039;t see a guy like CC wanting to play for a marine, regardless of how much money he&#039;s being offered.

If Girardi comes off as one, CC won&#039;t consider the Yankees, IMO.

If he comes off more like Eric Wedge, a guy CC LOVED, young, aggressive former player but a good guy, I think that&#039;s something that would appeal to him.

Other guys, like Tex for example, don&#039;t give a crap about the manager.  They want the best they can get and they will deal with the manager after that.

Not every player though is cut from the same cloth.

Its why managing a team, especially the Yankees, is such a tough job.  The gig is so much more than gameday strategy, its not funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doreen,</p>
<p>The media has no influence on where free agents go, regardless of what they write.</p>
<p>When it comes to influence, aside from money, players, agents get their info from a variety of sources.</p>
<p>Players talk to other players all the time.</p>
<p>During Torre&#8217;s time here, it was always known as a &#8220;good place&#8221; for veteran players because Torre didn&#8217;t sweat the small stuff, treated them like adults, and they had good guys in the clubhouse.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not always the same in clubhouses around the game.</p>
<p>The Mets for example, have a real latin bent in the clubhouse.  For latin players, Omar is the patron saint.  For non-latin players?  They aren&#8217;t as comfortable in that clubhouse.</p>
<p>FWIW, it was the same in Montreal when Omar was there.</p>
<p>The Red Sox, as opposed to how it was in the past, are known for having a good clubhouse.  Francona is really well liked by other players in the game, and a lot of guys take less money/years these days to go or stay in Boston.</p>
<p>Overall, the Yankees have a good rep, in terms of players, around the game.  Jeter, Mo, and Johnny Damon are among the most popular players among the players in baseball.</p>
<p>There are no real jerks in the clubhouse.  Overall, its a good group of guys.</p>
<p>The change, and it remains to be seen how it plays out with other players, is Girardi.</p>
<p>I know a lot of guys in the game.  I know veteran players aren&#8217;t going to be comfortable around Girardi unless he smooths out the rough edges.</p>
<p>CC Sabathia&#8217;s reputation around the game is pretty interesting.  He&#8217;s basically a guy who likes being happy.  Sort of a California cool kind of guy.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see a guy like CC wanting to play for a marine, regardless of how much money he&#8217;s being offered.</p>
<p>If Girardi comes off as one, CC won&#8217;t consider the Yankees, IMO.</p>
<p>If he comes off more like Eric Wedge, a guy CC LOVED, young, aggressive former player but a good guy, I think that&#8217;s something that would appeal to him.</p>
<p>Other guys, like Tex for example, don&#8217;t give a crap about the manager.  They want the best they can get and they will deal with the manager after that.</p>
<p>Not every player though is cut from the same cloth.</p>
<p>Its why managing a team, especially the Yankees, is such a tough job.  The gig is so much more than gameday strategy, its not funny.</p>
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		<title>By: t-rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>t-rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hughes should try and get back his slider that was his dominant pitch in HS. 

Why do the Yankees scrap everyone&#039;s slider just because they don&#039;t have a curve? We&#039;re lucky Joba had a workable curve, otherwise they would have scrapped his slider too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hughes should try and get back his slider that was his dominant pitch in HS. </p>
<p>Why do the Yankees scrap everyone&#8217;s slider just because they don&#8217;t have a curve? We&#8217;re lucky Joba had a workable curve, otherwise they would have scrapped his slider too.</p>
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		<title>By: RalphieD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RalphieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Im with you. If Dice can come up with the Gyro. Why cant he be working on his own meal to deliver? The Gordita.&quot;

not quite what i meant but i like it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Im with you. If Dice can come up with the Gyro. Why cant he be working on his own meal to deliver? The Gordita.&#8221;</p>
<p>not quite what i meant but i like it</p>
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