Girardi, Kay team up for charity
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Oct 09, 2008 
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Received this press release:
New York Yankees manager Joe Girardi will be joined by Jim Nantz, and Michael Kay as the guests of honor and keynote speakers at “Remember When, Remember Now” to benefit Girardi’s Catch 25 Foundation and Alzheimer’s Research at the Grand Central Oyster Bar in New York City on Wednesday night, November 19. All proceeds from the fundraiser and celebration of the Grand Central Oyster Bar’s 95th Birthday will be earmarked toward Alzheimer’s research and assistance. The three honorees each have had a parent afflicted by Alzheimer’s disease.
Tickets are priced at $250 per person, while tables of 10 are priced at $5,000 (exclusive “Box Seat Table” which include celebrity table host), and $2,500. Cocktail hour begins at 6:30 PM, with the dinner and program starting at 7:30 p.m. For information and ticket purchase, contact (212) 490-7108 and (800) 622-7775 or e-mail info@oysterbarny.com.
Michael Kay… he is one of the few media guys who isin’t a Torre apologist.
I love Joe as much as anyone (sane) but after mismanaging the 2003 WS, the greatest collapse in history in the 2004 ALCS, and 3 straight first-round exits, anyone who says the Yankees didn’t have just cause in not bringing him back is either myopic, an apologist or a complete moron.
Actually Kay hated Torre, who called him ‘Rona Barrett’ after an old gossip columnist. Kay was the one who initiated the petty sniping at Torre — and Jeter, since he knew hurting Jeter would upset Torre. It was only after Torre left that Kay went back to a$$ki$$ing Jeter.
Torre was right about Kay and the choice between him and the sleazy, know-nothing ‘Rona’ is easy to make.
Earmarks are bad, though!
Yum, the Oyster Bar is one of my fave restaurants in NY. I used to meet my dad there for lunch sometimes when I was a kid and he worked in midtown.
From previous thread: people sure are emotional about Joe Torre. Is it really a disgrace for rudderless Yankee fans to root for the Dodgers because they like Torre and Mattingly and Bowa? I think not. Me, I’m generally anti-Dodgers; right now a little less so than usual.
Torre led the Yanks to much success and to some unexpected and heartbreaking failure, but he did so with class the whole way. It’s ok to still like him even if he screwed some things up, as far as I’m concerned.
Now let’s get CC!
Hmmm. Maybe I would like to get a ticket to go to that. I could then find a moment to bend Girardi’s ear with just how wonderful I think he is. You know, one Italian to another.
Give em’ hell Ryan Howard !
Of course the Yankees could’ve done things differently after last season. But they were in a lose-lose situation re: Torre.
If Torre was insulted with a one year $5M offer to close YS, how would he have felt if he wasn’t even asked back?
woohoo! everyone (so far) seems to like my HOF on black friday idea! i just hope i’m not too full to enjoy the place.
Nick @ 2:54, i agree
saucy: It’s not a bad idea!
Patrick,
Did you really say that? Some things should be off-limits.
“With some of the decisions Girardi made this year, maybe they should be doing that Alzheimer’s research on him.”
You clearly have never known anyone who has had this dreadful disease otherwise you wouldn’t have made such a stupid, insensitive remark.
Patrick Bateman October 9th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
With some of the decisions Girardi made this year, maybe they should be doing that Alzheimer’s research on him.
What the hell?
that’s a real classy comment.
I, like Girardi, lost a father to this disease.
Why don’t you take your pacifier, put it in your mouth, and use it to get over the season.
It will keep you from putting your foot in it again.
Wow – that was about the most insensitive thing I’ve ever read on a message board. I love my baseball and am over-the-top passionate about it, but it’s just a sport. You’re talking about people’s lives here…….wow.
Oh relax. I’m not saying Alzheimer’s is funny. I’m saying Girardi is a terrible manager.
But if it was a joke about A-Rod it would be hilarious, right?
Troll?
My great uncle was wandering the streets of Clifton at 3 AM last night.
I don’t wish dementia on anyone.
I am one of those coping with Alzheimers in a family member, and I’ve admired Girardi’s attempts to keep up not only his personal connection with his father throughout the struggle, but to share their common interest in baseball as long as possible — and now to contribute to the fight against the disease.
Patrick Bateman, I’m sure you wouldn’t seriously want to trivialize their struggle or the catastrophic effect the illness has on patients and their families.
it has nothing to do with who you directed the comment to. It has to do with the comment itself.
If you aren’t bright enough to figure that out, don’t be offended if we take your opinion of Girardi’s managerial skills with a grain of salt.
And no, some ‘jokes’ are just not funny, no matter who the target is — including Alex Rodriguez.
Best of luck to Girardi and the foundation. Count me as a supporter of the current manager. I, for one, don’t think Girardi was “horrible” or “terrible”.
What mel said.
Clearly no one he loves or cares about was touched by that evil awful disease.
Patrick Bateman October 9th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Oh relax. I’m not saying Alzheimer’s is funny. I’m saying Girardi is a terrible manager.
But if it was a joke about A-Rod it would be hilarious, right?
If you don’t like Girardi and think he is terrible, just say that.
Your Alzheimer’s comment was classless, insensitive and pure crap.
“If it was a joke about A-Rod it would be hilarious”?-NO. It would still be classless and insensitive.
Have you ever had a family member or a loved one deal with Alzheimer’s? It’s horrible and heart-breaking. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
Kim Jones has done a hell of a job so far. Mike needs someone like this next to him. He doesn’t need a fossil like Beningo, Eddie C, etc.
Best of luck to the foundation.
And I agree with Jeter, Posada, Damon and the rest of the Yankees who think he’s not a good manager.
It’s like airplane jokes–you don’t make them on a Yankees board.
Forntoso,
So is it safe to say that this is her element? She’s better with WFAN than Yes?
Count me in on the support for Girardi. Again its not his fault that half his team under achieved. The other half got hurt. Next year he will get his ring as a manager and everyone will be on board. He came in on a transition year. Next year he will have a reloaded team that will be hungrier/younger and more skilled than the 08 team.
saucy,
What is this black friday thing about?
sos, trying to talk the family into going to the HOF the day after t-giving. we’ll all be at a relative’s house which is about an hour from the hall..
S.O.S.
Yes.
Kim doing pretty okay with Francesa
I never heard Jeter, Posada, or Damon say he’s not a good manager. Did you Patrick?
saucy,
Good luck with that. If its an hour away just tell them that your going to the store to get more booze and go solo. I wonder if Pete will be hanging out accross the street that day?
Oh yeah, Kim knows her sports, doesn’t back down to Mike, but comes off as very charming and pleasant.
Her and Mike work well. Carlin is kind of just the observer.
You are 0-2. Those guys don’t think he is a terrible manager.
In fact, Damon has already begun trying to recruit a couple of free agents.
You think he would do that if he was Anti-Girardi?
Don’t mistake a disagreement or two for guys making an overall evaluation of the manager. If you are, you would be mistaken…..again.
saucy: It’s a great opportunity to go–have any cousins that are young but just old enough to appreciate it?
“RAYS IN 3! (yes I know it’s a 7 game series…)”
Huh? Is that Rat infested piss hole going to be closed down after game 3 and the rays be rewarded the series due to forfiet? Explain.
Jeter and MO never said Girardi was a bad manager. Heyman said they were not 100% in love with some of the decisions he made by the end of the year.
Kim Jones expanded on that today actually, mentioning how the veterans went to Joe in May and told him to get on Cano and he never did. Rivera even called him out after that Angels game while Girardi compared him to Almomar.
Being unhappy with some of his decisions and saying he is a bad manager are 2 different things.
“I never heard Jeter, Posada, or Damon say he’s not a good manager. Did you Patrick?”
Kim Jones said on the Fan yesterday that those 3 are less than enthusiastic about Girardi, especially as the season went on.
SOS, definately happening at this point. just a matter of how many of us.
i need to fix my camera.
Sj,
Can you see Matsui or Damon being traded this winter? I just cant see both being on the team come opening day. Posada might need that dh spot.
“Being unhappy with some of his decisions and saying he is a bad manager are 2 different things.”
Isn’t being a good manager about your decisions and relationships with players? If you’re bad at both, wouldn’t that make you a poor manager?
Enough with the Torre love fest. Can we just support our current manager without looking for a scapegoat for this season?
Nobody ever said Girardi would be perfect. But what happened this year isin’t his fault.
SOS,
I think both will be back and I think there will be enough AB’s to go around for everybody.
“But what happened this year isin’t his fault.”
I agree with you NITRO. With all the injuries and under achieving performances this year. Even Torre would have been home watching the playoffs. If it wasnt for the Manny acquisition. He might have been home anyways. Time to move on. We arent getting Torre back and we sure as hell aint getting Santana. Stop living in the past and be excited of whats in the near future.
27 in 09!!
“27 in 09!!”
Yes indeedy!
S.O.S. Cashman said either on the FAN or in his press conference that he wanted Sui DHing and Damon back in center (words to that effect)
The guy couldn’t even take a playoff team to the playoffs. Yeah, he wasn’t that bad of a manager. Giambi hitting 5th half of the season, that was a smart decision. Guys starting to hit only to be sat down to take a break? Yeah, that’s some smart managing.
rebecca, i have 2 cousins that are pretty much fanatics (early teens), and 1 cousin who isn’t really into sports. my grandmother has been there twice, so she may not be into the idea again, unless we promise to take her to the wax museum.
SJ,
If they are both coming back. Will Matsui and Posada be sharing the dh role? Will Posadas arm be healthy enough to start catching right away? Or will they not go after a true first baseman and throw him in at first when Matsui is playing?
I know i have lots of questions and uncertainties. Help me understand how we are going to fit Posada(3 more years of boocu money)in the mix?
“Enough with the Torre love fest. Can we just support our current manager without looking for a scapegoat for this season?
Nobody ever said Girardi would be perfect. But what happened this year isin’t his fault.”
And Torre didn’t have injuries? Torre didn’t have to deal with a patchwork rotation? Yet he made the playoffs every year despite the Chase Wrights of the world in his rotation.
Kim campaigning for Burnett. Mike doesn’t want him.
“S.O.S. Cashman said either on the FAN or in his press conference that he wanted Sui DHing and Damon back in center (words to that effect)”
Is that the same Cashman that said that Bubba was OUR center fielder? Stealth Cashman?
saucy: Well, take the first two their and then let Grandma go to the wax museum with the one that doesn’t like baseball
God Carlin-patience!
“God Carlin-patience!”
did he swing at the first pitch again?
Kim knows more of the inside Yankee thinking than either Mike and Carlin and they’re fighting with her?
lol..he was talking about Phil Hughes
“And Torre didn’t have injuries? Torre didn’t have to deal with a patchwork rotation? Yet he made the playoffs every year despite the Chase Wrights of the world in his rotation.”
So when Girardi’s been managing as long as old man Torre, let’s look at the makeup of his teams and see if he does as well as Torre would have with the same team.
Until then, GO GIRARD!
S.O.S. – yes the same Cashman.
And since there is a stealth verison to Cashman (I like the version too) I guess we will all have to wait to see what happens since nobody here could possibly have any better insight unless Cashman himself shared it and said it was for real!
Carlin says go and get Sabathia and Lowe, as if it is that easy. Whats his plan B? Hughes and Kennedy? Oliver Perez? Livan Hernandez?
“And Torre didn’t have injuries? Torre didn’t have to deal with a patchwork rotation? Yet he made the playoffs every year despite the Chase Wrights of the world in his rotation.”
I really look forward to the day when people stop comparing Torre with Girardi.
Are we really still having the Torre vs Girardi debate? If you haven’t changed someones mind to your side in the last 12 months, chances of you doing it now are slim to none.
“I really look forward to the day when people stop comparing Torre with Girardi.”
Tell me how much snow you get in Hell on that day.
Its a fair comparison. Girardi took over a playoff team and didn’t make the playoffs after over a decade of post season play.
“So when Girardi’s been managing as long as old man Torre, let’s look at the makeup of his teams and see if he does as well as Torre would have with the same team.”
Thats a great reason why he should be managing the Marlins and not the Yankees.
saucY’s idea is truly a great one. Were Cooperstown not 4 hours one way from where I will be that day, I would hop in the car and be there.
For those who have never been, it’s truly truly worth the trip. Cooperstown and the surrounding area is just beautiful. And, of course, the HOF itself is everything you would hope it would be.
Speaking of trips, I hope there will be another Scranton Wilkes Barre Yankee day trip. With a little more advance warning I might be able to put the criminal justice system on hold for a day. Is a weekend game a possibility? The 4th of July falls on a Saturday and they are playing Pawtucket.
“Its a fair comparison. Girardi took over a playoff team and didn’t make the playoffs after over a decade of post season play.”
I disagree. Not all things were equal. People talk about Torre having to pitch Chase Wright et al last year. Well, when was that? Early in the season. Girardi was still running Ponson and Rasner out there at the very end of the season. Torre had a healthy Pettite. Tampa Bay was still a last place team. The situations were not exactly the same.
I would just amend: The outcome of this season wasn’t ALL Joe Girardi’s fault. There were enough things that went wrong all around so that all can share responsibility (not “blame”) for the way it turned out.
not to change the subject, but i feel like changing the subject
my NCAA (w/ the points) pics this week:
texas > oklahoma
kansas > colorado
utah > wyoming
vanderbilt > miss st.
nebraska > texas tech
purdue > ohio st.
usc > arizona
notre dame > north cac
georgia > tennessee
Michigan St. > Northwestern
Arkansas > Auburn
BYU > New Mexico
Ball St. > West. Kentucky
Penn St. > Wisconsin
Boise St. > Southern Miss
Florida > LSU
Oklahoma St. > mizz
“People talk about Torre having to pitch Chase Wright et al last year. Well, when was that? Early in the season.”
You’re right Chase Wright was early in the season, then he had to deal with Tyler Clippard, Karstens, DeSalvo, Rasner, Igawa etc.
FYI from MLB.com
The old Yankee Stadium has been closed forever, but before the new one opens its doors next year, we’ll have an offseason to soak in the memories.
A&E Home Video and Major League Baseball Productions’ new DVD set, “The New York Yankees: Essential Games of Yankee Stadium,” should go a long way toward consoling and thrilling Yankees fans at the same time.
After a fan vote on Yankees.com, these six games from Yankee Stadium history were decided on as the ones to be featured in their entirety.
1976 American League Championship Series Game 5 vs. Kansas City Royals: Chris Chambliss’ walk-off home run sends the Yankees to their first World Series since 1964.
1977 World Series Game 6 vs. Los Angeles Dodgers: Reggie Jackson’s historic three-home-run game propels the Bronx Bombers to another World Series championship.
1995 AL Division Series Game 2 vs. Seattle Mariners: This 15-inning drama ends with Jim Leyritz’s walk-off home run and features home runs from Don Mattingly, Paul O’Neill and Ruben Sierra, plus 3 1/3 innings of relief by a young Mariano Rivera, who notched the win.
1996 World Series Game 6 vs. Atlanta Braves: After New York lost the first two games of the 1996 World Series, they won the next four and finished with a Game 6 celebration that shook Yankee Stadium with delight.
2001 World Series Game 4 vs. Arizona Diamondbacks: History unfolds when Tino Martinez hits a two-out, bottom-of-the-ninth, two-run homer to tie the game. Then, in the 10th, “Mr. November” Derek Jeter’s game-winning home run gives the Yanks another remarkable victory.
2003 ALCS Game 7 vs. Boston Red Sox: With a World Series appearance at stake, aces on the mound, and white knuckles everywhere, Aaron Boone strokes the game-winning home run to seal the Yankees’ 11-inning victory.
And one more thought: Why does or why should supporting the Yankees under Girardi preclude having a fondness for Joe Torre? Why can’t one be disappointed that the Yankees didn’t make the playoffs AND, well, not exactly happy, but “okay with” Torre/Mattingly/Bowa being there?
Maybe I spend too much of my life accommodating the gray area, but does it always have to be black or white?
And I’m not directing this toward anyone in particular. Just a reaction to polls and such that want to know who you support.
I had to chime in on the Girardi-Torre comparisons. Whoever took the managerial spot, Pena, Mattingly, Bowa, Girardi, etc, was going to be fairly or unfairly compared to Joe Torre. Good or bad, new manager or experienced, batting champion/MVP as a player or bench player, there would be a comparison for the manager immediately following Torre.
Are there somethings that Girardi has to improve upon? Absolutely. He’ll be judged as a manager by Cashman and the owners on his ability to adjust and make the changes necessary to be successful. If he doesn’t, he’ll be fired. If he does, the Yankees are too good of a team to miss out on the playoffs. He’ll relax a bit, the players will relax, you’ll have different seasons from different players for a variety of motivating factors. There may be a new player or two for the Yankees next year that will factor in.
You can’t judge the two managers on the sole idea of one made the playoffs and one didn’t. One handled the media and one didn’t. Torre and Girardi are two entirely different managers, both have strengths and weaknesses. The primary difference between the two and I believe someone mentioned it the other day is the experience.
Honestly, how do you think Joe Torre, as a second year manager, in the biggest media market in America, for the biggest sports franchise in the world, would have faired with the modernization of sports (particularly having a place like this for fans)? With injuries, age, underperformance, etc, of this year would he have made the playoffs with this group? That question is about as valid as the argument between Joe Torre (as a manager today) v. Joe Girardi.
would you trade cano for matt cain then try and acquire luis castillo from the metS?
texas > oklahoma
kansas > colorado
utah > wyoming
vanderbilt > miss st.
nebraska > texas tech
purdue > ohio st.
usc > arizona
notre dame > north cac
georgia > tennessee
Michigan St. > Northwestern
Arkansas > Auburn
BYU > New Mexico
Ball St. > West. Kentucky
Penn St. > Wisconsin
Boise St. > Southern Miss
Florida > LSU
Oklahoma St. > mizz
saucy,
Texan tech will beat Nebraska
Ohio State over Purdue
Auburn over Arkansas
Mizzou over Ok st.
GO LONGHORNS!!
Laura -
Too bad there’s no footage from the old dynasties. We’re really lucky to have so much from the 70′s on. Looks like a Christmas present, doesn’t it? (Or holiday or birthday)
Laura
For as good a record as Tampa had this year, the Yankees record in 2008 against them was better than 2007.
“Thats a great reason why he should be managing the Marlins and not the Yankees.”
Then should Mattingly be managing the AAA affiliate to the Marlins? He was our other choice. Torre forgot what the second round of the playoffs smelled like. It was only a matter of time when we were going to miss the playoffs and go into reloading mode.
sos, but are your picks with or without the points?
go PSU!!!
“would you trade cano for matt cain then try and acquire luis castillo from the metS?”
I’d trade Cano for Cain, but I’d bring back Luis Sojo for 2B for 2009 before I’d put Castillo in a Yankee uniform.
murphydog: You should talk to Ron, he organized it!
“would you trade cano for matt cain then try and acquire luis castillo from the metS?”
Castillo? Alberto Gonzales has a better stick than luis. Orlando Hudson if he can prove hes recovered is a much better option. Not sure if Brian Roberts is available.
Heyman: The Yankees told me they will not let this happen again (missing the playoffs).
Doreen
I have no problem with gray area.
A little age and maturity teaches that there are very few absolutes in life.
Heyman time
the California teams vs. The Yankees for Sabathia
Cano for Cain?
Sure why not. We can all dream I guess.
Nobody gives up young stud pitching for underwhelming second basemen with motivational problems.
Jeez.
“Heyman: The Yankees told me they will not let this happen again (missing the playoffs)”
If thats the case, they wouldn’t have brought back Cashman.
“Too bad there’s no footage from the old dynasties. We’re really lucky to have so much from the 70’s on. Looks like a Christmas present, doesn’t it? (Or holiday or birthday)”
My birthday is two weeks from now so I will be making sure that the appropriate people get the hint.
saucy,
Without. You didnt post them. I was a penn state fan a few years back till i got aggrivated at Paterno for stubbornly not retiring when they were asking him to(fans). I thought he just wanted to get that MOST WINS record and now he is battling Bowden for it. Jumped after tha to the Longhorns.
Who retires first.
Bobby or Joe?
SI said that he’s going to stay on the West Coast, and for him to be swayed the offer has to be sig higher than what West Coast is paying..
Also, he’s building a mansion there right now. FWIW.
Mark Teixeira-believes he will probably stay with the Angels
Lowe for the Mets?
I believe he will as well. Tex I mean. I think LAA gets Sheets and Tex, NY will get CC, KRod will go to the Mets, and Boston will get Burnett.
Let the lesser pieces fall where they will.
I think Lowe stays right where he’s at. He likes it there, and they like him. Plus, his contract, by most accounts has been one of the best deals going the past few years when compared to what he’s given them.
Who wants him anyhow? He pitched to an above 5 ERA his last stint in Boston…why would we want him now?
I wouldn’t be surprised to see CC stay in Milwaukee or on the West Coast.
Nothing suprising— we have to blow CC out of the water money-wise for him to consider coming to NY. If the WC teams give him a representative offer (6/$130), he will probably stay there unless we go 7/$160.
Going to have to decide if its worth it to sell our souls for CC knowing he only will come here if the money is that great compared to the WC.
I keep saying this and it needs to be repeated. Don’t be surprised if we come up empty handed in the CC and Tex sweepstakes. We may not even get Burnett. I’m preparing myself for the worst.
If Sabathia wants to hit so badly, why don’t we just allow him to be the DH once a week? Put it in his contract.
sos, yeah, i guess i should have posted them, but it was a long list to begin with.
but for the 4 you disagreed with me (points to right):
Texan tech will beat Nebraska (20.5)
Ohio State over Purdue (19.0)
Auburn over Arkansas (18.5)
Mizzou over Ok st. (14.0)
i’ve kind of been on the PSU bandwagon since 5 or 6 years ago, due to my now brother in law. JoePa will win so many more games in the next few years that Bobby will just give up
“I think Lowe stays right where he’s at. He likes it there, and they like him. ”
Um, this is not 100% true. It was reported on the ESPN Podcast that Lowe has already informed the Dodgers that he will not be returning to LA.
so according to some things i’ve read, CC is open to go anywhere because apparently Milwalkee opened his eyes.
How much difference could there be between Milwalkee and Cleveland?
Laura, I agree 100%. Nobody should be penciling in anything. This has the same potential to be a great off-season as it does a disastrous one.
Between guys not being crazy about coming here (CC) and Cashman not crazy about certain guys (Tex, Manny), I wouldn’t be shocked if this becomes a heartbreaking off-season.
don’t think the corporate nature of the yankees isin’t a turnoff for the laid-back personality of CC.
If we dont get C.C. or Tex. I expect Cash to make a strong push for Peavy or some other top notch pitcher and a young first baseman. Maybe we can do a package to get Gonzalea and Peavy. Hughes might have to go with a few others.
saucy,
Then ill go with Mizz and Auburn.
The Yankee organization has been running things poorly for some time and 2008 was the natural result. Poor farming, poor drafting, poor player development, over reliance on aging free agents with too long contracts.. the list goes on.
The chief rival in the division, Boston, adapted to the changing game earlier and is about three years ahead of NYY in player development. On top of that, nobody believed the Rays were for real. The Yankees measured themselves against Boston, but not the Rays. Big mistake.
Add in the not so well planned succession in top ownership and people still want to hang 2008 on Girardi? C’mon. Enough already.
I’d absolutely do Hughes for Peavy
Hughes, Kennedy, Sanchez, Rasner, Eric Duncan, and Betemit for Peavy, Gonzalez, and Jody Guret
I agree with murphydog’s comment above. For the same reason, I won’t blame Girardi if the Yanks don’t make the playoffs next year.
Unfortunately for Joe, most people will blame him. Especially Cashman, who will find it easier to replace the manager than to admit that he did an inadequate job of providing quality players.
Murphydog, the Yankees had a bad year in 2008, but as their farm system made a quantum leap in the last few years, there’s just no way that you can say that they have been “poor” recently. What you are referencing (poor drafting, bad FA signings) happened with the Tampa Mafia intact and before Brian issued his ultimatum to George. Obviously the Yankees are still feeling the effects somewhat, but now they are going to have a boatload of $$$ (and bad contracts) off their hands.
As to CC – the mediots are the same ones who said that Santana surely wanted to be a Yankee. Well, if that’s the case, why didn’t he tell the Twins that and why did he accept a trade to the Mets? I’m sure CC prefers the West Coast – it doesn’t mean he wouldn’t consider playing in NY …..or liking it. Ok, so he’s building a home – he can retire to that home. He doesn’t have to live there now. Look, if the Yankees make a fair offer and he doesn’t bite, then so be it. I hope fans won’t get on the FO’s case because they can’t kidnap CC and make him sign with us.
Back to Kim – I saw some of that conversation on YES and she really gave it to Carlin. At one point, she told him not to yell at her and that he was giving her a headache……and she put her hands on her head. It was hilarious……….
FYI re: Peavey:
Gavin Solana Beach CA: If the Padres did trade Peavy to the Yankees wouldnt the trade have to start with either Joba or Hughes? along with an outfielder and another pitcher.
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/sn2.gif Jim Callis: I’d think it would have to start off with Phil Hughes and Austin Jackson, and the Yankees would have to add two more valuable chips.
**I don’t think the Yanks are trading Phil, but leave that out for a moment – they would never do this deal. They’d absolutely be ripping apart their farm system. Jackson is the only high-level positional prospect they have, so I don’t think he’s going anywhere either…………
David
October 9th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
I agree with murphydog’s comment above. For the same reason, I won’t blame Girardi if the Yanks don’t make the playoffs next year.
Unfortunately for Joe, most people will blame him. Especially Cashman, who will find it easier to replace the manager than to admit that he did an inadequate job of providing quality players.
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Why not blame Girardi? People have no problem blaming Torre for not winning with patched together rotations since 2003 and a bullpen that since 2002 was nowhere close to this year’s bullpen.
Last 5 years
Biggest Collapse in baseball history
First round exit
First round exit
First round exit
No playoffs, 3rd place.
Torre is gone and is now lighting it up in LA. He let Bowa go and he has been the voice of the LA clubhouse. Girardi is now struggling as well and the players are grumbling.
He seems to have concentrated on development and neglected the big league and team and let it get old. And his development was overrated, Joba is the only one living up to the hype. No young talent next year outside of the bullpen.
It is the GM, not the manager. This franchise has regressed every year since he has gotten full control.
Callis is just speculating. We could substitute Jackson for some other guys that SD wanted. I don’t think there is a package etched in stone. Obviously Hughes would headline it but the secondary pieces can be interchangeable.
I do think Hughes should be shopped for a Loney, LaPorta, Votto etc.
Sherman suggested Votto for Hughes, I’d do that in an instant.
Kim has done an excellent job. Their first show was awful but it has improved dramatically.
Y26, probably true. The media is speculating about everything, yet who really knows? I’m sure the Pads would demand at least Phil – same as they would demand Clay from the Sox. I think, lol, I’ve made it clear that I don’t want Phil to be traded, but nevermind him for a second – the Pads (if Peavey even would accept a trade to the A.L./NY) would demand a ton of prospects (likely pitching from the Yankees as AJ is our only upper level positional prospect). Would that be worth it? I don’t think so. I really would perfer to shell out $$$ instead of players.
Santana never said he only wanted to be a Yankee, he said he wanted to go to NY or Boston. Just like it is speculated CC wants go to to LA or SF.
There were rumors of teams like the Rangers and Mariners getting involved, but he said he would only waive his NTC to go to NY or Boston. He never said he only wanted to be a Yankee. And Santana would never be a jerk like that and demand he only get traded to one team, that sets a terrible precedent and the baseball community would lose respect for him. Even Manny never demanded that, he said he would go anywhere they wanted him to.
I hope we don’t get into a drawn out argument about Phil again when none of us are going to change our minds. That said – John, the Yankees are not going to shop Hughes. I’m sure his name will come up by fans (and the media), but IMO, that’s because they’re desperate to do something and Phil is practically ML ready. The mediots can suggest whatever they want to – I seriously doubt they put any thought into these things. They look at rosters, decide – “oh, that name would be nice to have” and go from there. Well, giving up on Phil would be foolish – he’s most certainly not a finished product. I would rather be patient and wait out a talent like Phil, then enjoy his success as a homegrown player. At some point, you have to have faith in the organization to know which are the right kids to hang their future on.
Betsy-
I don’t think Cashman wants to go there either. But if we miss out on CC, Burnett, Lowe etc. and Mussina retires, then he may not have a choice. Where are we going to go for pitching? I don’t think Cashman wants to sign a proven disaster like Perez or Sheets just for the sake of it. He may have to go the trade route to get pitching and unfortunately, our only trade chips are Hughes and Cano. He can’t go into the new stadium, coming off a non-playoff year, with this same team with no additions at all, he knows that.
I think, just from listening to his WFAN interview, Cashmanhe is going to much more proactive this offseason and not be as protective of the prospects if he feels he can find a deal to help the team. You can tell this past season left a bitter taste in his mouth, he has been so feisty in every interview he has done.
I would trade Hughes for Loney or LaPorta in a heartbeat. Too bad LAD/CLE wouldn’t.
Those are the types of position prospects we need.
Is this a sacrilege? I really like Terry Francona.
phil isin’t the same pitcher he was before they changed his mechanics. his stuff isin’t the same, his control/FB command isin’t anywhere near what it was, and he is more injury prone.
king nardi screwed around with hughes. no reason to change his mechanics when he had a stress-free motion and a perfect build. its like they wanted to lessen his ceiling.
Hughes, Marquez, Curtis, Ramirez, Cox, Miranda, either Pena or Corona, Igawa, Cervelli and cash for Peavy, Gonzales and if they want to unload a terrible contract that they owe Greene. Money is San Diego’s issue. They’re tring to get out of paying Greene now because of the injury. Greene is owed 11 million on next year’s contract, plus a buyout.
Hard not to like Francona, Torre, Jerry Manual— laidback managers. Not stern dictators like Joe. There is a reason players love those guys.
Girardi should model himself after those managers.
GreenBaret, I’d do that deal.
Hughes would be the centerpiece and they can have their choice of B/C level prospects. I like expanding the deal.
“Is this a sacrilege? I really like Terry Francona.”
It might be something that’s contagious because I’ve always liked Francona. He really impressed me with how he handled the All Star Game.
dan 771 -
I don’t think many people will deny that the mechanic change was unnecessary and only bad can come out of it. Nothing good can come out of toying with the #1 prospect in baseball, with a clean bill of health, coming off a dominant year at age 19. He is not the same pitcher, it is up to him to try and recapture his ceiling that he had with his old mechanics in 06. He isin’t the same pitcher he was in 06.
“Is this a sacrilege? I really like Terry Francona.”
I think the guy is a genuine sweetheart.
“Hughes, Marquez, Curtis, Ramirez, Cox, Miranda, either Pena or Corona, Igawa, Cervelli and cash for Peavy, Gonzales and if they want to unload a terrible contract that they owe Greene. ”
You wouldn’t even get Peavy for that trade.
yes, im sure the dodgers are just dying to get rid of loney who is their only mature young player and led the team in RBIs, for hughes.
anybody would do that deal from the yankees end, but the dodgers wouldn’t.
Oh wow, the Holidays are almost here. Time flys by fast.
Wilson
October 9th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
GreenBaret, I’d do that deal.
Hughes would be the centerpiece and they can have their choice of B/C level prospects. I like expanding the deal.
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San Diego needs everything, but, no way would I add Hughes and Jackson in the same deal. I would be open to adding Betances instead of Hughes and adding Sanchez or Veras to the deal. I don’t see adding the kids that play offense for Charleston as being helpful to San Diego for 3 years. Romine and Montero should be off limits, regardless, as should De La Rosa.
I’d like Francona better if he worked in a different town.
I’d have no problem giving up Hughes and Alfred for Peavy.
Singularly, Alfred has no value.
I lost respect for Francona when he didn’t put Mussina and Giambi on the All Star team.
Why do HWL games last only 7 innings?
I’m such a contrarian.
Keep trying to trade Phil, keep smearing AJ, keep trashing Girardi.
They keep looking better and better.
Money going to San Diego is what will drive any deals. They can’t sell them off and baseball will limit the amounts, however, doing them in seperate deals can be doe. Right now, almost any player in the system other than Jackson, Romine, De La Rosa and Montero should be available. Laird should be available only if a first rate 1st baeman is coming back.
“San Diego needs everything, but, no way would I add Hughes and Jackson in the same deal. ”
Just because San Diego needs everything, doesn’t mean they’re gonna take a pile of trash for Peavy who is under contract at a below market level for an ace pitcher.
Hughes and Jackson would be the minimum for Peavy. This isn’t a Santana type deal, if Peavy is available everyone will bid on him, not just 3 teams due to his reasonable contract.
This “no way” I trade Prospect A and B talk is exactly why we didn’t get Santana and we’re in this mess to begin with. Now everyone is sending Hughes everywhere in fictional trades.
mel, you wouldn’t trade Hughes for Peavy?
mike (4:25) and murphydog (4:54)
Absolutely agree.
Nobody is going to tell me that a different manager would have gotten any different result out of Kennedy and Hughes, nor that having Wang, Matsui, Jorge, and for a short while Arod out of the mix and the Rays soaring would still have made it to the postseason. Girardi did more than a few things I wish he had done differently but then I’m sure he did a ton of things that worked well, so maybe they wash each other out. All managers screw up. How many times did you want to puke when Torre marched Proctor out game after game after game and we lost game after game after game because of it? Or left Andy in far too long? No manager is perfect. I am betting that Girardi with a healthier/more effective starting rotation would have been good for at least another 10 games. You know what that would have meant? The playoffs. So maybe he did a lot better than we give him credit for under the circumstances.
I think Girardi is sincere and I think he is passionate. I think Torre was a lot smoother than Girardi is and certainly a lot bigger schmoozer. I actually prefer the former approach myself. I think Torre was a magnificent manager until he wasn’t. I give him all the credit in the world for his earlier years there.
***can be done***
Well, to be fair Francona didn’t start his own guy one year even though he would’ve been justified.
And I dump Kazmir for not declining the spot if he couldn’t pitch. Not really, but he was a baby about the whole thing.
Redding,
I wouldn’t mind Peavy at all. I do want to *try* to build pitching from within. Might not be a staff of Santanas, but at least you’re not exposed to risk of big ($150M) contracts. The results will be better, but not by that much. Think about it. We had 89 wins. With no Santana, no CC, no Peavy, no Wang for half a year, no Joba for most of the season.
I just don’t think that Hughes will be traded for pitching. Didn’t happen for Santana, so it won’t happen for Peavy.
Hughes has a little bit of that big game mentality I like. I want him on my team.
If Girardi gets fired, what about Ned Yoast?
Francona did just fine during the All-Star game. You can’t name everyone and the way it’s set up, with every team having to be represented, it’s impossible to get all deserving players in. And, as much as I stuffed the ballot box for Giambi at the time, it was more for the fun of it (the ‘stache and all) and the comraderie it brought than actually believing he was more deserving of, say, Evan Longoria or the others who were also on that secondary ballot.
mel -
I do wish Francona wasn’t the sweetheart manager of the arch-enemy!
Fire Meachum -
Girardi just needs to be himself. I actually think he is so different during those post-game interviews than when you see him any other time. Hopefully he’ll find whatever it is inside him that makes him tick.
Doreen,
Maybe Giambi can make it in ’09. As the arbitrary pick of the Oakland Raiders, err, Athletics.
Anyone know how old Kim Jones is? I”m just curious.
I sure think they could do worse than have her on air several times a week.
Kim is 38, IIRC.
Did I step into an alternate dimension? Torre gets blasted and hated, yet here they go on loving Francona.
Sorry, I don’t like Francona either. He’s disgusting with the chewing tobacco and gum wad he jambs in his mouth each game. Just the though makes me want to puke.
Looking at the list of Francessa’s guests— Eddie C, Sweeney, Heyman, Carlin, Beiningo, Darling, Evan Roberts, John Sterling, etc.
Kim will easily be at the top of the list. Though I think Ron Darling will do a great job too even though he is a Mets guy.
Giambi back in green and gold. Seems like a lifetime ago.
Doreen
October 9th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Anyone know how old Kim Jones is? Iâ€m just curious.
I sure think they could do worse than have her on air several times a week.
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Only if they replaced her with Ken Harrleson or Suzyn Waldman.
E-rod,
Darling is easily the most complimentary tv guy when it comes to the Yankees. Fingers crossed.
Doreen,
It was. It was.
ERod -
Kim’s good because she knows a lot about a lot of sports. I think Darling has come a long way and is now quite comfortable, but I’d be interested to find out what he knows besides baseball.
Tank,
Thanks. She seems to know some things that I would have tagged her for older, just from her experiences.
Rays are going to give the Sox a much bigger challenge than most people think. Don’t sleep on them— their ‘mystique’ and ‘aura’ will not carry them, they will have to earn it.
mel,
I want to post on your site. Need about a month to have some more time to post. Just in time for basketball season. Keep it going.
Proud of you.
“Giambi back in green and gold. Seems like a lifetime ago.”
Doreen,
I might be in the minority on this. But im just glad he wont be wearing pinstripes. Because it seems like a lifetime that we havnt had a REAL first baseman on our team.
SoS,
Thanks! Because you’re so sweet, I’ll keep the pinstripes pink. Was thinking of switching to purple and gold…
Kim knows her sports and she looks good too.
Nothing not to like
SoS,
You’re kidding right? No matter what a good guy he is, the Yankees and of the fans have been wanting him gone since the parasite. The intestine, not Giambi.
Tomorrow should be interesting-Benigno and Francesa
We should have an “Oh the Pain” drinking game
GB7,
She’s what we call a “handsome woman”.
Sorry I brought her up……
Would it be too much to ask for you not to make disparaging comments about how anybody looks?
Be it Kim Jones, Suzyn Waldman or any other woman in sports media, I’m not going to allow it. If you have an opinion on what they’re saying, fine. Otherwise take it someplace else. How can you have such a lack of class?
Nice going Doreen & mel!
Buddy -
I thought she did a good job on WFAN. I wondered about her age only because she mentioned players that I remember from a certain time which I thought she might have been too young to know. My comment was they could “do worse than to have her on a couple of times a week,” which is actually a compliment. I should have been more clear, because it apparently opened up the floor for other comments, which I would never make.
It’s one of those couldn’t care less vs. could care less type of statements, so I’ll just say outright – they should invite her back a couple of days a week at least.
Pete, you’re only now picking up on this? It was rampant here last year…
Doreen-
I was just kidding.
Buddy -
Oh, I’m glad you were kidding. I just thought I may have started something I didn’t mean to.
I didn’t say a word about Jones’ looks other than it was a matter of opinion as was her quality of work.Tss the second time you deleted something and left worse go.
How about this one? I realize that it was about Girardi and not one of your media friends, but it was fa less harmless than this.
repost:
Patrick Bateman
October 9th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
With some of the decisions Girardi made this year, maybe they should be doing that Alzheimer’s research on him.
I was wondering what happened to Clay Buchholz. He’s in Arizona, too.
Doreen-
You are incapable of doing something like that.
That Patrick Bateman character is pathetic.
“How can you have such a lack of class?”
Your right Pete. I feel bad for do that. For the first time my post were deleted. I will go and wash my mouth with soap. Im ashamed. I sure wont be talking about how good looking men are.
“Tickets are priced at $250 per person……”
I doubt anyone can afford to go this year. Maybe they will have to cancel the event, unfortunately.
They will be lucky to get anyone to attend in this economy unless they accept food stamps.
Green Beret:
Give it a rest. I just deleted several of your comments about how you “disapprove” of Kim’s looks. Then, typically, you plead innocence.
You can comment about anything you like. I’m just asking you to have a little class and not make comments about how a woman looks. What in the world could that possibly have to do with what she thinks about baseball?
People like Kim and Suzyn have enough issues to deal with without people passing judgment on how they look. I’m not allowing it here. These people are my friends and essentially my co-workers and my blog will not be a place where this sexist crap happens.
Yeah sory about that. It was stupid. Sorry.
“That Patrick Bateman character is pathetic”
I just don’t read his posts. Anybody who uses the protagonist name from American Psycho as their tag is just crying for attention
BBTN on espn….
“These people are my friends and essentially my co-workers and my blog will not be a place where this sexist crap happens.”
Pete, does this mean that I cannot comment on how attractive the Yankee players are? Don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I’ve got a thing for that Nady guy.
Pete, does this mean that I cannot comment on how attractive the Yankee players are? Don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I’ve got a thing for that Nady guy
Laura -
I think Pete meant women, not dudes. lol
Thoughts on the NLCS and ALCS?
I say Phillies in 6 and TB in 7
Ed – looking forward to 2009
October 9th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Pete, does this mean that I cannot comment on how attractive the Yankee players are? Don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I’ve got a thing for that Nady guy
Laura -
I think Pete meant women, not dudes. lol
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I don’t see why it wouldn’t be an issue. Nady has enough issus to deal with, in his defense and strikeouts.
***issues***
Tampa in 6
Philly in 5
“I think Pete meant women, not dudes. lol”
Whew. Thank God. You guys know that I have to make at least one “Nady is hot” comment per game. Take that away from me and I don’t know how I go on.
Nady is still learning the AL, he’ll be fine. His defense isn’t so bad either.
Can someone suggest to me some new synonyms for my writing?
I have been using the words “use / apply / employ / utilize / exploit” an awful lot.
Did anyone heard about the Cano for Beltran deal in the works? I just got home and read something about the possible rumor?
Nady is a hottie. Let’s not trade the hotness away.
Hmm. Cano for Beltran? is this a paper rumor?
“Hmm. Cano for Beltran? is this a paper rumor?”
That’s a rumor I started. LOL! People are just now picking up on it.
Buddy Biancalana
October 9th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Nady is still learning the AL, he’ll be fine. His defense isn’t so bad either.
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I think the AL has Nady pretty well figured out. He can’t hit breaking pitches and swings at anything low and away. He’s ok on defense unless he has to judge those over his head. On defense, he’s better than Ramirez and no better than Abreu. He doesn’t run the bases or hit as well as Abreu, though. He’s a better trade chip to the NL. NYY will be considerably short on left handed bats in 2009 if Abreu is gone. People want him, Cano and Giambi gone. What left handed power is left? Damon and Gardner?
“Carlos Beltran from the Mets to the Yankees in exchange for Robinson Cano (with the Yankees taking on most of Cano’s contract), either Jose Veras or Brian Bruney, Ian Kennedy, and another prospect from the Yankees system.”
The part that I don’t believe is that the Yankees would pick up part of Cano’s salary. Why would they do that when Beltran is making a mint as it is? Makes no sense. We can’t be that desperate for a CF.
Plus, Beltran hasn’t done squat since he arrived in NYC. I’d rather ride out Cano for another year than sit around waiting for Beltran to do something.
Laura –
you beat me to it. lol
Pete,
You have ads on your blog from stiletto and lace and you’re worried about sexism? Wow, just wow!
Laura
October 9th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
“Carlos Beltran from the Mets to the Yankees in exchange for Robinson Cano (with the Yankees taking on most of Cano’s contract), either Jose Veras or Brian Bruney, Ian Kennedy, and another prospect from the Yankees system.â€
The part that I don’t believe is that the Yankees would pick up part of Cano’s salary. Why would they do that when Beltran is making a mint as it is? Makes no sense. We can’t be that desperate for a CF.
Plus, Beltran hasn’t done squat since he arrived in NYC. I’d rather ride out Cano for another year than sit around waiting for Beltran to do something.
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Hudson will be playing 2nd base for the Mets before that trade is made.
Is it still ok to compare Pedroia to a rodent and Youk’s face to a sour lemon scrunchie?
No to that deal.
raymagnetic
October 9th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Pete,
You have ads on your blog from stiletto and lace and you’re worried about sexism? Wow, just wow!
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That’s not about media personnel. It’s just media driven. Besides, they may be friends.
Sounds like the Damon for Crede trade from last offseason.
ray,
Unless Pete moonlight’s as a bouncer, that doesn’t apply. He’s just asking us to respect his colleagues. Fair enough. Apologies, Pete.
“you beat me to it. lol”
Ed, didn’t you know that I’m the Copy and Paste queen of Chicago?
I don’t like it. Beltran is too old.
Laura -
LOL. the only thing I know about Chi-Town that Jordan used to have a restuarant and now it shut down. lol
“LOL. the only thing I know about Chi-Town that Jordan used to have a restuarant and now it shut down. lol”
Worse than that, it’s now a bad Mexican restaurant.
I can see the Yankees playing Damon in CF.
Well, technically we have bodies. Nady in left, Johnny in center, and Duncan in right.
Oh, yuck. The best scenario is if Gardner can hit ML hitting. I think he’ll be okay.
Heyman said on the Fan today that the Yankees should stay away from AJ Burnett. He said that he was “flaky”. He said that he’d take Lowe over AJ.
My issue with AJ is:
1)Risk of injury
2)He kills us, but nobody else
Rebecca -
Beltran haven’t done anything for the Mets. Remember him being struck look out during the Game 7 of the 2006 NLCS while the Mets had the chance to win it with bases loaded in the bottom of the 9th?
Laura -
You actually been there to the restuarant? Jordan and that bad Mexican restuarant?
Laura: Amen to that. I don’t want to see AJ on the Yankees
Heyman says that CC really wants to go to SF. Why in the world would he want to go to a bad team that’s going to be bad for a few more seasons to come? I’ve been to SF and it is a fabulous town, but come on? Besides their pitchers, the Giants suck!!
“You actually been there to the restuarant? Jordan and that bad Mexican restuarant?”
Unfortunately, I’ve only been to the bad Mexican restaurant. I’m not a basketball person (shocking, I know!) so I never had a desire to go to Jordan’s.
And as an aside, may I say that Michael Jordan is the King of the basketball hotties club!
Laura -
it’s because Lincecum won 18 games for them with a 2.30 ERA with a lack of run support. if Lincecum could do that, sabathia would win at least 23 games for them with a lack of run support.
Why would the Giants want to take on another big contract pitcher, especially when they need hitting more than pitching?
Laura -
you should run a hottie club and you being the president of it. lol
“you should run a hottie club and you being the president of it. lol”
Now, what a minute. Don’t think that I’m a sports fan just to drool over the men (although that is one of the benefits).
I love my Yankees, even the not so hot ones.
CC figures he will have little pressure on him to win. Could you imagine if Zito played in NY and did this:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl.....mlb,104195
Careful, Ed, that sounds like sexistism.
I would be very surprised if the Giants become a serious player in the CC sweepstakes. However, they do have a brand-new managing partner and perhaps he’d like to make a splash. CC-Lincecum-Cain-Sanchez-Zito would make for a pretty tough rotation in the NL West. But I really don’t see it happening.
mel
October 9th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Well, technically we have bodies. Nady in left, Johnny in center, and Duncan in right.
Oh, yuck. The best scenario is if Gardner can hit ML hitting. I think he’ll be okay.
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Duncan will either be a FA or picked up in the Rule 5 draft. I think he’s seen his last game as a Yankee.
“Could you imagine if Zito played in NY and did this:”
Zito is actually a better model than he is a pitcher.
Careful, Ed, that sounds like sexistism.
Nick -
ditto. lol
They could sign Sabathia and dangle Cain for a bat.
Giants will be in it, the question is how much? I also think the other offensive FAs will dictate where CC will go. If LAD re-signs Manny, that pretty much takes them out of the CC mix. Similarly, if the Angels re-sign Teix, they won’t be going for CC as well. But what if the Giants come in and swoop up Manny or Tex? What if the Angels decline GA’s option and sign Manny who Moreno has coveted for years?
Manny/Tex could set the ball rolling. We should be rooting that they re-sign with their respective teams. That leaves the Giants as the only real threat, though that may be the biggest threat of all if you listen to Heyman.
Laura
October 9th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Heyman said on the Fan today that the Yankees should stay away from AJ Burnett. He said that he was “flakyâ€. He said that he’d take Lowe over AJ.
My issue with AJ is:
1)Risk of injury
2)He kills us, but nobody else
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He has better numbers against Boston than he does against the Yankees. He also has nearly as good a numbers against the Devil Rays.
If we want CC then we need to blow him out of the water. Teams like SF would make him a very competitive offer. Thats why the Giants are a scary entity in this— they have not shown themselves to be a smart or fiscally responsible organization like the LA teams have. They could give CC a Zito-like contract. If he loves Calif that much, that could be enough.
Laura,
Because they’ll have 7 years to get better.
Sometimes it’s a lifestyle choice. CC’s going to get paid wherever he goes.
barry zito is a way beter model
if we dont get AJ we have to do everything we can to make sure he doesnt go to boston, that wouldnt be good
Glad I have you has a fan Beret.
You get the award for the dumbest post of the day though with your “I’ll trade all of Scranton for Peavy trade”
Shows you have absolutely no knowledge of baseball or how trades work. Maybe trading 100 trash players for 1 star player works in the VA Fantasy League you’re in, but it doesn’t work in the real world.
I was wondering whether I should watch the game or the movie Dracula 2000. I think I’ll do the latter.
“I just don’t read his posts. Anybody who uses the protagonist name from American Psycho as their tag is just crying for attention”
Sorry, “Tom” was taken.
i just cant see CC going anywhere else but Yankees. Angels have alot of players to sign and they really dont need pitching, Giants already have a big contract pitcher dont think they will sign another one,Dodgers are signing manny
AJ Is another pavano signing him will be a big mistake you guys will be complaining on this blog about the signing of AJ
new post
AJ is obviously plan B or a guy we sign along with CC. I don’t think anyone is advocating signing him instead of CC.
We have to keep an open mind, its not a lock CC wants to come here. We have to prepare in both instances. Burnett is a risky signing, but if we don’t get CC, what choice do we have? If Mussina retires we have no rotation to speak of. Wang and pray for rain.
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