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		<title>By: bodhisattva</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/10/16/meetings-underway-but-dont-get-excited/comment-page-2/#comment-569855</link>
		<dc:creator>bodhisattva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering how Peter Gammons is getting up in the morning these days.</description>
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		<title>By: Brian M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>86w183 -  &#039;offering Purdge arbitration means a minimum salary of just under $ 10 Mâ€¦ thatâ€™s a very expensive insurance policy&#039;, 

- I know, but if Posada has a hiccup with his rehab, as much as I like Cervelli, there is no way the Yanks are rolling out him and Molina as their catchers going in to the season with the chance of another season of Posada feeling pressure to come back before he is ready.  

Pudge will get a small salary drop, I forget the max drop allowed, but say for argument sake he gets $10M, a lot of teams, would be willing to make a trade for him in spring training, or if Posada is looking good in spring and we have Molina and Cervelli on stand-by, and we cant find a trade partner, we could cut him at the end of camp, since as Cash pointed out the contract wouldn&#039;t be guaranteed.  So it is a win-win.  

Knowing these are possibilities there is no way Boras would let him accept the Yanks offer.  Boras can get him close to a $10M deal somewhere else, or someone will roll the dice on a 2 yr, $12M deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>86w183 &#8211;  &#8216;offering Purdge arbitration means a minimum salary of just under $ 10 Mâ€¦ thatâ€™s a very expensive insurance policy&#8217;, </p>
<p>- I know, but if Posada has a hiccup with his rehab, as much as I like Cervelli, there is no way the Yanks are rolling out him and Molina as their catchers going in to the season with the chance of another season of Posada feeling pressure to come back before he is ready.  </p>
<p>Pudge will get a small salary drop, I forget the max drop allowed, but say for argument sake he gets $10M, a lot of teams, would be willing to make a trade for him in spring training, or if Posada is looking good in spring and we have Molina and Cervelli on stand-by, and we cant find a trade partner, we could cut him at the end of camp, since as Cash pointed out the contract wouldn&#8217;t be guaranteed.  So it is a win-win.  </p>
<p>Knowing these are possibilities there is no way Boras would let him accept the Yanks offer.  Boras can get him close to a $10M deal somewhere else, or someone will roll the dice on a 2 yr, $12M deal.</p>
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		<title>By: 86w183</title>
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		<dc:creator>86w183</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trader---

Whether or not to sign Pettite for next year has nothing to do with the impact of Pettite signing last year. We&#039;ll know in two years if backing away from Santana was wise... maybe less. Who knows what the Twins&#039; bottom line from the Yankees was? I sure don&#039;t. without that knoweldge we can never truly evaluate the decision.

Nady at 1B is certainly one of the Yankees&#039; options. It would be less expensive than signing Teixiera, but I fail how to see that move making the Yankees better.</description>
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<p>Whether or not to sign Pettite for next year has nothing to do with the impact of Pettite signing last year. We&#8217;ll know in two years if backing away from Santana was wise&#8230; maybe less. Who knows what the Twins&#8217; bottom line from the Yankees was? I sure don&#8217;t. without that knoweldge we can never truly evaluate the decision.</p>
<p>Nady at 1B is certainly one of the Yankees&#8217; options. It would be less expensive than signing Teixiera, but I fail how to see that move making the Yankees better.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what about first base? since Jason Giambi wont be back next year, who is going to be there? i keep saying Xavier Nady, but people keep saying Mark Texiera. But who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what about first base? since Jason Giambi wont be back next year, who is going to be there? i keep saying Xavier Nady, but people keep saying Mark Texiera. But who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what about first base? since Jason Giambi wont be back next year, who is going to be there? i keep saying Xavier Nady, but people keep saying Mark Texiera. But who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what about first base? since Jason Giambi wont be back next year, who is going to be there? i keep saying Xavier Nady, but people keep saying Mark Texiera. But who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Yankee Trader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yankee Trader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>86-
About Pettitte-he decided to take the Yankees up on their offer in December, while the Yankees were in negotiations for Santana, knowing full well that if the trade for Santana went down the Yankees would have probably taken the offer off the table. Soon after the Pettitte signing Steinbrenner signed A-Rod to his massive contract and two weeks later in December Rivera resigned. Santana was not traded until the end of January. Not to belabor this dead horse, but IMO, had Pettitte not come back, the Yankees would have made a deal for Santana, without having to include Hughes, as Minnesota was at the point of no return on Santana and spring training was nearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>86-<br />
About Pettitte-he decided to take the Yankees up on their offer in December, while the Yankees were in negotiations for Santana, knowing full well that if the trade for Santana went down the Yankees would have probably taken the offer off the table. Soon after the Pettitte signing Steinbrenner signed A-Rod to his massive contract and two weeks later in December Rivera resigned. Santana was not traded until the end of January. Not to belabor this dead horse, but IMO, had Pettitte not come back, the Yankees would have made a deal for Santana, without having to include Hughes, as Minnesota was at the point of no return on Santana and spring training was nearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Yankee Trader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yankee Trader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the positive side, the cost of the new stadium helps the Yankees in paying less into the revenue sharing pool.

Isn&#039;t there a hefty &quot;franchise Fee&quot; you have to pay before you secure seats in the new stadium, or is that just for the high rollers who will have access to parking and some of the finer restaurants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the positive side, the cost of the new stadium helps the Yankees in paying less into the revenue sharing pool.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t there a hefty &#8220;franchise Fee&#8221; you have to pay before you secure seats in the new stadium, or is that just for the high rollers who will have access to parking and some of the finer restaurants.</p>
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		<title>By: The Monarch</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Monarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Mike Stanton&#039;s first departure, the Yanks have scrambled to find a halfway decent lefty, and have signed the likes of Chris Hammond and Mike Myers, and even traded for Jesse O (&quot;Yes, Virginia; Jesse Orosco did pitch for the Yankees.&quot;)

I realize $6M is a bit high, but if they let him go and Coke isn&#039;t what we saw in September, I would hate to be scrambling for another lefty at the deadline next year.

I say exercise the option, and if Coke is as good as he seemed, then what&#039;s the harm of having two effective lefties in the pen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Mike Stanton&#8217;s first departure, the Yanks have scrambled to find a halfway decent lefty, and have signed the likes of Chris Hammond and Mike Myers, and even traded for Jesse O (&#8220;Yes, Virginia; Jesse Orosco did pitch for the Yankees.&#8221;)</p>
<p>I realize $6M is a bit high, but if they let him go and Coke isn&#8217;t what we saw in September, I would hate to be scrambling for another lefty at the deadline next year.</p>
<p>I say exercise the option, and if Coke is as good as he seemed, then what&#8217;s the harm of having two effective lefties in the pen.</p>
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		<title>By: 86w183</title>
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		<dc:creator>86w183</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian M.... offering Purdge arbitration means a minimum salary of just under $ 10 M... that&#039;s a very expensive insurance policy.

Yes on Pettite... one year, $ 12 M or so for a 14-game winner who has never had a losing season is a pretty good deal.

Abreu may not have a great a market as your guys think... a mid-30s mediocre outfielder for $ 50 M over three years? No thanx. Offer him arbitration for sure.. if he says yes, which is highly unlikely, you have the same situation as this past year, but without the no trade clause

I can&#039;t imagine the Yanks cutting Marte loose. Funny I got ripped for suggesting $ 12M for three years a month ago and now it&#039;s everyone&#039;s idea... guess I was just ahead of my time

Carl Crawford in LF in 2010... THAT would be awesome</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian M&#8230;. offering Purdge arbitration means a minimum salary of just under $ 10 M&#8230; that&#8217;s a very expensive insurance policy.</p>
<p>Yes on Pettite&#8230; one year, $ 12 M or so for a 14-game winner who has never had a losing season is a pretty good deal.</p>
<p>Abreu may not have a great a market as your guys think&#8230; a mid-30s mediocre outfielder for $ 50 M over three years? No thanx. Offer him arbitration for sure.. if he says yes, which is highly unlikely, you have the same situation as this past year, but without the no trade clause</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine the Yanks cutting Marte loose. Funny I got ripped for suggesting $ 12M for three years a month ago and now it&#8217;s everyone&#8217;s idea&#8230; guess I was just ahead of my time</p>
<p>Carl Crawford in LF in 2010&#8230; THAT would be awesome</p>
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		<title>By: SJ44</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJ44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drive,

He was talking about the Yankees as they are today.  One thing he doesn&#039;t do.....he doesn&#039;t project or predict the future.

Obviously, if they make solid upgrades his position would be re-evaluated.

However, as they stand right now, it is an old team, losing Giambi and Abreu, Posada&#039;s condition is unknown, and Robbie Cano is coming off an awful season.  That&#039;s where they stand right now.

Can it improve?  Sure it can.  But, he was talking about where they stand right now and its tough to disagree with his opinion at this time.

As with all opinions though, they are subject to change when/if roster changes are made.

I did hear of some sponsors looking for some relief with the Yankees.  I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s true or not but, that&#039;s the buzz going around.

Season ticket sales?  I know they are stalling a bit on the pricier seats.  Those $350.00 per game boxes are readily available.

I think they will end up doing some creative multiple game packages if ticket sales flatten out.  They are going have to go that route because, with the financial community laying off an estimated 100,000 workers in NYC alone, they don&#039;t have Wall Street to fall back on for ticket sales.

Fortunately for the Yankees, they chose one of the few independently solvant banks, Bank of America, when they did their monster sponsor deal earlier in the year.

They are also going to become a Nike team next season.  That will also bring in more bucks than their Addidas deal did in the last couple of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drive,</p>
<p>He was talking about the Yankees as they are today.  One thing he doesn&#8217;t do&#8230;..he doesn&#8217;t project or predict the future.</p>
<p>Obviously, if they make solid upgrades his position would be re-evaluated.</p>
<p>However, as they stand right now, it is an old team, losing Giambi and Abreu, Posada&#8217;s condition is unknown, and Robbie Cano is coming off an awful season.  That&#8217;s where they stand right now.</p>
<p>Can it improve?  Sure it can.  But, he was talking about where they stand right now and its tough to disagree with his opinion at this time.</p>
<p>As with all opinions though, they are subject to change when/if roster changes are made.</p>
<p>I did hear of some sponsors looking for some relief with the Yankees.  I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s true or not but, that&#8217;s the buzz going around.</p>
<p>Season ticket sales?  I know they are stalling a bit on the pricier seats.  Those $350.00 per game boxes are readily available.</p>
<p>I think they will end up doing some creative multiple game packages if ticket sales flatten out.  They are going have to go that route because, with the financial community laying off an estimated 100,000 workers in NYC alone, they don&#8217;t have Wall Street to fall back on for ticket sales.</p>
<p>Fortunately for the Yankees, they chose one of the few independently solvant banks, Bank of America, when they did their monster sponsor deal earlier in the year.</p>
<p>They are also going to become a Nike team next season.  That will also bring in more bucks than their Addidas deal did in the last couple of years.</p>
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