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Chamberlain arrested in Nebraska

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Oct 18, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Working on a story now for the paper tomorrow. This is what is known so far:

Joba Chamberlain was arrested for driving under the influence early Saturday morning near his hometown of Lincoln, Neb.

Deborah Collins, a spokeswoman for the Nebraska State Patrol, said that the 23-year-old Chamberlain was pulled over after being observed speeding in a 2006 BMW 750i shortly after 1 a.m. on U.S. 77.

Chamberlain was arrested after an odor of alcohol was detected and an open container of alcohol was observed on the front passenger seat. Chamberlain was taken to the Cornhusker Place Detox and booked on charges of driving under the influence, having an open container of alcohol and speeding.

This story was broken, based on what I know, by the Journal Star newspaper in Lincoln.

Working on trying to obtain a comment from Joba, his agent, Brian Cashman and/or the Yankees. Nothing as of yet.

This post will be updated as more information becomes available.

UPDATE, 10:49 p.m.: The Yankees have no official comment on the arrest of Chamberlain according to Media Relations Director Jason Zillo.

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454 Responses to “Chamberlain arrested in Nebraska”

  1. Perry October 18th, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    Fantastic! Let’s forget 2008 ever happened.

  2. jennifer October 18th, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    Joba you need to be smarter than that! Shame on you!

  3. Al from BK( OFF-SEASON GOALS: Get CC and possibly more, find a real first baseman.) October 18th, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Oh Joba. Lets try to not get put away for a felony. This season has already sucked enough all we need is our Ace in a car crash.

  4. moesham October 18th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    shooots….just what we need now..

    what’s wrong with them athletes they make money playing a game and find a way to botch up.

  5. EricNS October 18th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    Everyone makes mistakes – hope Joba learns from it.

  6. ugh October 18th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    between the sux winning and this…I give up.

  7. moesham October 18th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    watch out for all the media bashing…..

  8. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story October 18th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    Christ Joba.

    All along we keep saying how mature you are and then this?

    You could have killed someone.

  9. Andrew (Scott Proctor's Arm) October 18th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    Idiot

  10. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 18th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    As long as he doesnt crash into a tree and smash up his right arm what do you really care?

  11. JR Yankees October 18th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    Very surprising for Chamberlain but none of us are perfect. Atleast he didn’t injure himself or somebody else. And on the subject of learning from mistakes…

    Anybody think Maddon learned his lesson about leaving ineffective relief pitchers in a game too long?

  12. pat October 18th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    Drinking and driving is bad enough but open container is really stupid.

  13. Nick in SF October 18th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    The important thing is that no husks of corn were harmed in this incident.

  14. holdstrong October 18th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    Just another chapter in a couple of horrible baseball years.

  15. joey b. October 18th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    what an idiot

  16. joey b. October 18th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    And people called Ian Kennedy immature….

    Brien Taylor anyone?

  17. jennifer October 18th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    You can be sure someone whether it be Brian or Derek etc will give Joba a nice talking to.

  18. YankeeJosh October 18th, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    After what happened to Jim Leyritz, how he basically ruined his life because he got drunk and killed someone driving, you’d think these players would learn.

  19. JR Yankees October 18th, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    Or Billy Martin…

  20. Stormrider6 October 18th, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    Sidney Ponson is still pitching… Ted Kennedy is still a senator… Vince Neil is still a rock star (sort of)…

    Joba had better learn from this. He’s dang lucky no one got hurt.

  21. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 18th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    Somebody call Tony Larussa, STAT!

  22. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story October 18th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    Nick: One ear, one vote!

    (it’s an old joke on livejournal about there being more corn than people in the state)

    JR: I hope he has, but it might be too little too late.

  23. JR Yankees October 18th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    TB bullpen continuing it’s implosion.

  24. GreenBeret7 October 18th, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    joey b.
    October 18th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
    And people called Ian Kennedy immature….

    Brien Taylor anyone?

    ________________________________________________________

    What does that have to do with Brien Taylor, dimwit?

  25. moesham October 18th, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    can the writers take back their votes for maddon MOY? he lost his mind.

  26. mel October 18th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    Why change pitchers for Lowrie but not Papi? Oh, the humanity!

    Joba, way to go on changing those stereotypes.

  27. yankeenate October 18th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    what a freakin fool!!!! From Arod’s world series opt out to chamberlain’s DUI to Girardi’s lies and Hank’s idiotic comments make this organization look like a joke. The Bronx is burning

  28. RalphieD October 18th, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    this is just bizarre…joba seemed like a dude that had it all together…this is rough

  29. AROD fan October 18th, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Joba rules!

  30. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! October 18th, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    Jesus Joba. Think! This is very disappointing news.
    He could have killed someone

    This game is not looking too great either.

  31. Nick in SF October 18th, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    It must have been the stench of alchohol that attracted the midges.

  32. DFox October 18th, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Yeah this is just pathetic. I’m still hoping it’s not true, this is the only place I could find it so far.

    If it is, which I would think it is, then he’s an idiot. He would have made the Yankees look awful. The guy they plaster all over the Yankees organization goes and does something like this. Disgraceful.

    And this isn’t a “mistake” like people are saying it is. It’s being a complete idiot. Here’s a guy who has pretty much everything, and he needs to go doing crap like that? Give me a break.

  33. Celerino Sanchez October 18th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    “watch out for all the media bashing…..”

    Um, and he won’t deserve it? What a selfish moron. He can’t afford a cab or a car service? Oh yeah, it’s the media’s fault.

  34. GreenBeret7 October 18th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    RalphieD
    October 18th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
    this is just bizarre…joba seemed like a dude that had it all together…this is rough

    _____________________________________________________

    It’s not like 85-90% of the US driving age people haven’t driven when they shouldn’t have.

  35. Vince October 18th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    I love when people say “hey, no one is perfect”.

    That is absolutely true, but should not apply to a “mistake” that could have killed other people.

    I no longer have much (if any) respect for the guy.

    No playoffs – Red Sox staging a comeback the current Yankees can only dream of – number one prospect drinks and drives = worst season ever

  36. Celerino Sanchez October 18th, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    “It’s not like 85-90% of the US driving age people haven’t driven when they shouldn’t have.”

    spoken by someone who has never had a friend or relative killed or injured by a drunk driver. So it’s ok since most everyone does it. genius.

  37. RalphieD October 18th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    “It’s not like 85-90% of the US driving age people haven’t driven when they shouldn’t have.”

    nonetheless…i feel that when your in the spotlight, whether it be a baseball player or a public official etc, you cant do stuff like that..your asking for terrible outcomes

  38. Fredo Corleone October 18th, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    “this is just bizarre…joba seemed like a dude that had it all together…this is rough”

    Not sure the 22 year old who has it all together actually exists.

  39. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story October 18th, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    Someone I know…well, knew…was killed by a drunk drive a few weeks ago. I didn’t know him that well, but I still knew him.

    There’s no excuse for it.

    There really isn’t.

  40. Nick in SF October 18th, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    I didn’t know Joba was up for sainthood.

  41. patrick max October 18th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    maybe it was a different joba chamberlain?

  42. DFox October 18th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    ““It’s not like 85-90% of the US driving age people haven’t driven when they shouldn’t have.”

    spoken by someone who has never had a friend or relative killed or injured by a drunk driver. So it’s ok since most everyone does it. genius.”

    In addition, don’t put down percentages like “85%-90%” just because YOU’VE done it. I would say the large majority of my friends wouldn’t even think about ever driving like that, let alone doing it.

  43. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! October 18th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    It’s not like 85-90% of the US driving age people haven’t driven when they shouldn’t have.

    Probably true and still a very stupid thing to do.

  44. Littering And October 18th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    no one knows the whole story yet everyone is judging him like he had osama bin laden in the passenger seat. the kid made a mistake is all we know, control yourselves

  45. Fredo Corleone October 18th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    “Red Sox staging a comeback the current Yankees can only dream of”

    Yankees were never dumb enough to keep falling behind 3 games to 1.

  46. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 18th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    lol With all due respect to the posting public here, are you serious? I don’t understand how so many people can care when A-Rod is sleeping with Madonna in Africa or Joba drives when he shouldn’t (GB pointed out the hypocrisy there) but can’t be bothered to go out and vote for anything other than the Presidential election (and barely for those). In a perfect world nobody would break the law. In the real one, everybody posting about how “disappointed” they are probably has.

  47. Celerino Sanchez October 18th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    He doesn’t have to be up for sainthood, just there is no excuse for this for someone who has plenty of money to hire someone to drive him home after a night on the town.

  48. jennifer October 18th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    I have to point out that there probably are many people on here drove when they shouldn’t have. I am not making any excuses for him. Just pointing that out.

  49. JR Yankees October 18th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    Vince, hey I hear ya about the ‘nobody is perfect’ comment I made but really…what can you do? Burn him at the stake?

    Not making excuses for him but I am sure everybody here has done something or some things they are not proud of.

    And I realize that he is a role model for a lot of people but knowing he didn’t hurt himself or anybody else, the best thing we can hope for is that he learns from the serious mistake he made.

  50. trisha - RAYS IN 3! (yes I know it's a 7 game series...) October 18th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    Sneaking off a post from my sister’s house. Obviously the Rays need to do something fast.

    I do not believe they are going to blow the ALCS. Call me ridiculous but I believe they will end up prevailing. If they don’t do it tonight, they will do it tomorrow night.

    I hope they do it tonight.

    GO RAYS!!!

    Catch y’all later.

  51. Nick in SF October 18th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    “maybe it was a different joba chamberlain?”

    Quick, find that Joba impersonator in Atlantic City!

  52. DFox October 18th, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    “Not sure the 22 year old who has it all together actually exists.”

    Maybe there isn’t. Maybe people got spoiled because of Derek Jeter. Because after all, the world has only known him since he was TWENTY and the biggest dirt that anyone every got on him or dug up on him was an inquiry about his tax filing.

    Pretty impressive, huh? But anyone, Joba was advertised as a role model, sort of like Jeter. But I guess now you learn that Derek Jeter is pretty much as rare of breed as they come.

  53. John October 18th, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    The baseball gods do NOT grant 2nd chances

    When you have a 7 run lead with 7 outs left, you have to close the door. Teams don’t get 2nd chances after that, especially with 3 games left and when you’re facing a team like the Red Sox.

    Tampa blew their chance. I can’t believe people actually thought they would respond after that choke job. It doesn’t happen in sports.

  54. Celerino Sanchez October 18th, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    I am not making any excuses for him. Just pointing that out

    so you are making excuses for him. by pointing that out.

  55. Quilvio Imposter October 18th, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    He needs to be taught a lesson

    Make him spend the first 3 months of the season in the minors.

  56. Fredo Corleone October 18th, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    “Joba was advertised as a role model, sort of like Jeter.”

    The notion of athletes as role models is a pretty bogus one to me. We really don’t know these guys and most know plenty of people in their everyday lives who are ACTUAL role models.

  57. JINT October 18th, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    This always happens to kids who get immediate success and turn into rock star’s overnight.

  58. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 18th, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    “The baseball gods do NOT grant 2nd chances
    When you have a 7 run lead with 7 outs left, you have to close the door. Teams don’t get 2nd chances after that, especially with 3 games left and when you’re facing a team like the Red Sox.
    Tampa blew their chance. I can’t believe people actually thought they would respond after that choke job. It doesn’t happen in sports.”

    Hey John the Red Sox won game one didn’t they? They followed that up by spitting the bit for three and a half games did they not? The baseball gods proceeded to give them a second chance by winning game 5. Your logic is FLAWLESS!

  59. Y26 October 18th, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    I hope Ponson wasn’t a bad influence on him.

  60. aado October 18th, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    GreenBeret – Brien Taylor ruined his career in a drunken bar fight. Who is the dimwit?

  61. Littering And October 18th, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    i cant stand tim mcclellan

  62. PAT M October 18th, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    What could be a key to tomorrow night’s game is to get Paplebum in tonight’s game….

  63. AG October 18th, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Rob, you’re not breaking the law or endangering someone’s life by not voting or by cheating on your spouse. There’s stupid, there’s emotionally hurtful, and there’s life-threatening. Drinking literally while driving is, to me, one of the most despicable things you can do because you’re endangering up to hundreds of people’s lives because of your own stupidity and bad judgment.

    I can’t believe I’m semi-defending A-Rod.

  64. DFox October 18th, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    “The notion of athletes as role models is a pretty bogus one to me. We really don’t know these guys and most know plenty of people in their everyday lives who are ACTUAL role models.”

    OK well that’s your prerogative, but in the real world, little kids look up to athletes like Joba Chamberlain and Derek Jeter, etc. I’m not saying they should, but they do. And then MLB encourages all this charity work and everything which just makes them look even better. So that’s what MLB wants them to be seen as.

  65. GreenBeret7 October 18th, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Celerino Sanchez
    October 18th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
    “It’s not like 85-90% of the US driving age people haven’t driven when they shouldn’t have.”

    spoken by someone who has never had a friend or relative killed or injured by a drunk driver. So it’s ok since most everyone does it. genius.
    ______________________________________________________You don’t know whetheve or not, do you.
    didy itwas ok because somebody else did, now, did I? You’ve probably done it yourself….drugs, medication, being too tired and knowing it…just to push it a little farther down the road. It was stupid, thoughtless, immature and illegal. He did it, now, he pays the fines and punishment….damages his reputation and hurt his fans (kids).

  66. John October 18th, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    Rob,

    The Rays blew a SEVEN run lead with 7 outs to go in a potential elimination game to a dead team. You are comparing apples to oranges.

  67. Littering And October 18th, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    just think of how stupid all the tampa bay “fans” with mohawks will feel after they blow the alcs hahah

  68. Remember Paul Gibson? October 18th, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    Stupid. Stupid move. Fine the crap out of him, send him for treatment and community service, and have him designated to the minors until it’s clear to him and everyone else throughout the majors that this behavior will not be tolerated.

    Steroids puts the player at risk and MLB is so concerned about the policy toward those substances. DUI and DWI puts the player (driver) and others at risk. Yes, it is a common occurrence. That doesn’t make it any more tolerable, just that much more unfortunate.

  69. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story October 18th, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    Hey, I’m 22 and I certainly don’t have it all together.

    The difference is, the bad things I’ve done have never potentially endagered another life.

    It’s one thing to sleep around with Madonna. Immoral, depraved…sure. But dangerous? Only to the two of you.

  70. Guard October 18th, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    And people knocked Ian Kennedy’s maturity LOL

  71. DFox October 18th, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    Well said AG, and to be honest, this whole thing doesn’t speak well of the state of Joba Chamberlain. To be in the condition where you just get in a car drunk with a bottle of liquor open IN the passenger seat, you aren’t well. Depressed maybe, upset, maybe you don’t even really care about your life. Sort of weird if you ask me.

  72. pat October 18th, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    Don’t confuse superstar with super human.

  73. GreenBeret7 October 18th, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    ****You don’t know whether I did or not have famlily killed, do you? And where did I say it was ok because someone else did?***

  74. Littering And October 18th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    why are people still pretending they know every detail of what happened with joba? open container does not mean he was drinking while driving, you have no idea what happened. maybe he was driving a friend home and the other person left a squashed beer can under the seat.

  75. Trevor October 18th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    It’s official I want him traded now. Joba for Peavey what you think?

  76. David Cone's Labrum October 18th, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    My question is – might this rank as one of the top 10 playoff collapses, simply because of the lead in Game 5, or will it get ranked with last year’s Indians series, grouped together with all other 3-1 leads lost?

    What does everyone think?

  77. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! October 18th, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    Let’s not talk politics here at all. Please

  78. Fran October 18th, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    It was a dumb thing for Joba to do. Hopefully he will learn from this.

  79. YankeeJosh October 18th, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    The 3-1 Indians lead last year wasn’t an epic collapse. Sox won game 5 in Cleveland and then went back home to Fenway, and should have won. this year, being down 7-0 at home, then going to Tampa and winning two would be a special comeback and epic collapse imo.

  80. Littering And October 18th, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    Dfox where in Petes post does it say Joba was drunk? open your eyes and stop making implications. we know NO details of the report. hell i dont even trust half the cops in my town. the cop was prob a red sox fan (joke, dont have a heart attack)

  81. patrick max October 18th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    as i said, i dont think that was the real joba chamberlain.

    identity theft prehaps?

  82. mel October 18th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    Whatever, whatever.

    It’s not like he went to a bar or club and thought he could drive home. That’s a mistake a lot of us have made (yes, including me)

    The really stupid part is the open container. That’s the part that gets me. Premeditated and can not be explained away.

    Just thank goodness no one was hurt.

    Please, Joba. Don’t do it again. And if you have a problem, take care of it now.

  83. Trevor October 18th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    Rays Suck. Team just don’t know how to win. Errors in the field, blowing 7-0 lead in a series clinching game etc…

  84. RalphieD October 18th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    a story like this kinda puts everything in perspective…we spend so much time concocting trades, imagining dream lineups, and projecting players stats and we kinda forget these players are real humans…this kind of news just doesnt feel right…

  85. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! October 18th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    come on Rays and tie this game up.

  86. belial October 18th, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Wow, somehow Bush Derangement Syndrome arose from a discussion of Joba driving drunk.

    The guy showed he has no respect for himself or his team. Not to mention putting innocent lives at risk. What a slimeball.

  87. GreenBeret7 October 18th, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    aado
    October 18th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
    GreenBeret – Brien Taylor ruined his career in a drunken bar fight. Who is the dimwit?

    _____________________________________________________

    It was his brother that was in the barfight. The brother went home to get a gun and wen back to the bar. B. Taylor followed him and when trying to pull the brother away, they all fell on B. Taylor’s shoulder. He wasn’t inside the bar that night. He was under age.

  88. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story October 18th, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Rob: Actually, some of us care very much about voting.

    You’d be surprised. Most of us just keep politics off the blog because it has no place here.

  89. vtred October 18th, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    If Tampa loses this series, it would be ranked 2nd to only 2004.

    7 run lead, 7 outs to go and then you have 2 games at home including Beckett with a torn oblique against your ace and you lose.

    Cleveland series wasn’t a collapse… infact, I don’t think anyone thought Boston would lose that series. Not with the final 2 games in Boston and Schilling in game 6 and Dice-K/Westbrook in game 7.

  90. Trevor October 18th, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    Early prediction: Red Sox pen will blow it.

  91. Fredo Corleone October 18th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Got to give to Okajima. 6 pretty big outs thru the heart of the Rys order. Masterson is a crapshoot.

  92. DFox October 18th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Littering, maybe the guy in the passenger seat was Josh Beckett and he had a gun to Joba’s head. All of the liquor was Beckett’s. He forced Joba to drive.

    Wow, give it up dude. The part with “charged with Driving under the influence” is what indicated to me that he was probably drunk, or close to it.

  93. Nick in SF October 18th, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    Moose needs to come back to mentor Joba.

  94. joe October 18th, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    The more appropriate question is… how will this affect the rays in 2009 if they lose?

    will they come out with a vengeance and a swagger to prove the world wrong or will they always be timid and not take the leap everyone expects them to and they go from division winners to the “blue jays” role where this hurts this core’s progression?

  95. Jack Knight October 18th, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    What an idiot. He better have some real sincere apologies. It won’t change how I feel immediately, but I might be able to like him in the future. If he tries to shrug this off, he’s just another jerk.

  96. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 18th, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    That elbow pad doesn’t look like it protects much, ouch!

  97. mel October 18th, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    joe,

    I only want the Rays to win 1 more game. After that they could sink to the bottom of the sea.

    The only core I care about is the Yankee pitching staff and the Dynasty players.

  98. Y26 October 18th, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    Wonder what Hank’s comments will be about this DUI?

  99. Nick in SF October 18th, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    Compromise: I don’t care about most of you voting.

    I think Joba will be ok.

  100. JR Yankees October 18th, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    Look, there is no excuse for what he did, if in fact that is the whole story. But really…Teach him a lesson! Stick him in the minors! Are you serious?

    Why doesn’t Cashman take him behind Monument Park and shoot him like a dog while they’re at it?

    Legally, he is in plenty of trouble and he will be severely fined already and will probably serve community service too. Other than that, I would hope that Joba has already learned his lesson.

  101. Trevor October 18th, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    Masterson isn’t very good. How is he the set up guy?

  102. Littering And October 18th, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    you dont need to be drunk or close to it to get a DUI, you can have a sip of beer, a cop can smell it (on a young, rich kid speeding in a bmw) and be a pig, and give him a dui. again, you know NO details and are assuming he was slamhoused behind the wheel. dont be debbie downer and assume things until you know the whole story.

  103. AG October 18th, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    OK, but there are direct consequences of your actions and indirect consequences. Unless the election is decided by literally one vote, you, as one person, aren’t necessarily directly influencing whether someone lives or dies. If you drive drunk, you very well might be.

    With that said, I would imagine most (or at least some) people here care very much about voting. However, this post is ABOUT a drunk driving arrest, so the comments are going to be about… drunk driving. It’s like going to a baseball message board and saying, “Hey, why are you guys talking about baseball? There are much more important things in the world, like genocide in Darfur!”

  104. Ed - looking forward to 2009 October 18th, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    why they swing balls? be patient!!!

  105. Oddessy October 18th, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    joe,

    Good question. IMO, this will be a huge blow to the Rays. I really think they’ll underachieve next year and mentally fold in big spots. Not even the Yankees have recovered from 2004.

  106. harwood October 18th, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    ouch

  107. GreenBeret7 October 18th, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    JR Yankees
    October 18th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
    Look, there is no excuse for what he did, if in fact that is the whole story. But really…Teach him a lesson! Stick him in the minors! Are you serious?

    Why doesn’t Cashman take him behind Monument Park and shoot him like a dog while they’re at it?

    Legally, he is in plenty of trouble and he will be severely fined already and will probably serve community service too. Other than that, I would hope that Joba has already learned his lesson.

    ___________________________________________________

    Much of what he gets in the way of legal puishment will depend on the blood alcohol percentage. He still has two other violations, and tat’s the open container and speeding. All in all, it was a stupid, irresponsible and wreckless thing to do. I did the same thing at that age. Had it happened even 20 years ago, it would have ended my military career.

  108. DFox October 18th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    “again, you know NO details and are assuming he was slamhoused behind the wheel. dont be debbie downer and assume things until you know the whole story.”

    And you’re an idiot. Like I said before, if it’s not true, then it’s not true. I’m obviously only going by what the initial reports are. If they aren’t true, then shame on the papers who released them. But going on what they all are saying…

    What did the dirty pig cop do? Plant the open container of alcohol in the passenger seat? Make Joba Chamberlain go over the speed limit?

    Even if he wasn’t even drunk but still had an open bottle in the front seat and was going over the speed limit, he’s an idiot. Why put yourself in that position? You need an open bottle in the front seat that badly?

    Do you even know what a DUI is?

    “the act of operating a motor vehicle after having consumed alcohol, to the degree that mental and motor skills are impaired. It is a crime or offense in most countries around the world.”

  109. EricNS October 18th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    Should rephrase what I said – everyone does not make that mistake – it was stupid and could have been potentially dangerous – I really hope Joba learns from it -

  110. Forntoso October 18th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    The Yankees top PR director answered a call immediately at 11 PM on a Saturday night?

    That was nice of them.

  111. GreenBeret7 October 18th, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    DFox
    October 18th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
    Littering, maybe the guy in the passenger seat was Josh Beckett and he had a gun to Joba’s head. All of the liquor was Beckett’s. He forced Joba to drive.

    Wow, give it up dude. The part with “charged with Driving under the influence” is what indicated to me that he was probably drunk, or close to it.

    _______________________________________________________

    Probably isn’t the same as actually is or convicted of it, now, is it.

  112. Littering And October 18th, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    good one dfox, youre all-knowing and believe everything you read off wikipedia. fool.

    In non-baseball/political news Tulsa put up 77 points against UTEP to move to 7-0. wow.

  113. AG October 18th, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    How nice would it be for Papz to blow it?

    It’s a nice dream, at least.

    Once Tampa blew the 7-0 lead, you just knew the Sox were going to win the series.

  114. tom October 18th, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    Our season ended 3 weeks ago, but we are still suffering. We are about to watch our arch rivals win their 3rd title in 5 years and now Joba gets a DUI.

    Thankfully Torre is out of the playoffs, the baseball gods spared us even more suffering.

    I just hope this bad karma doesn’t carry into the free agency period.

  115. hank hal October 18th, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    4 hits and 2 runs against a banged up Beckett and horrible middle relief core.

    Great job. The Devil Rays sure picked a great time to rear their dormant heads.

  116. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 18th, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    Fair enough AG. It just seems like a lot of judgment from folks who I am 100% certain have broken the law one way or another in their lifetimes. Maybe even taken lives into their hands. I agree driving drunk is a stupid thing to do, absolutely. But to be “disappointed”? We “expected more”? I don’t even know the kid.

    Rebecca: I’m sure some people care, probably somewhere between 40-50% of us.

  117. DFox October 18th, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    “Probably isn’t the same as actually is or convicted of it, now, is it.”

    This isn’t a murder. It’s driving drunk. When you’re a public figure like him, you’re not going to fight the charges. He obviously will know what he did, and he’ll come out and make a nice artificial apology speech that sounds all nice. That’s the textbook move.

    I doubt he wants to be the next Roger Clemens with a he said he said thing.

  118. mark October 18th, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    The Rays will take it all. The series is 7 games.

    The Rays will pound Lester if it goes to 7.

  119. Littering And October 18th, 2008 at 11:49 pm

    if this week off for the phillies makes them flat against boston (which are 2 almost certainties there) it will be a bad scene in yankee country

  120. jennifer October 18th, 2008 at 11:49 pm

    This is set up perfectly! Papelbon in to save it, he not only gives up his first runs in post season, he loses it!! :D

  121. mark October 18th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    I guess nobody here watched the Phillies this postseason.

    What a bunch of wimps declaring the whole thing over. Like the Sox are god. Give me a break.

  122. PAT M October 18th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    Bottom of the 9th,,,make this puke work, hopefully he throws 25-30 pitches tonight…

  123. Paulie October 18th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    “an odor of alcohol was detected and an open container of alcohol was observed on the front passenger seat.”

    It’s Nebraska. It’s what they do out there.

  124. Ramon October 18th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    Garza needs to locate tomorrow.

    If he has too much movement, he is going to get pounded. He can also be a bit of a hot head.

    Man, this isin’t going to end well at all. I give Philly no shot against Boston. That is an awful matchup for them, the Rays were a perfect opponent for them.

  125. jennifer October 18th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    tom October 18th, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    Our season ended 3 weeks ago, but we are still suffering. We are about to watch our arch rivals win their 3rd title in 5 years

    __________

    Wow strange I didn’t know game 6 was over, and game 7 as well. And the WS was played as well?! SHOCKING!! I guess they are going to stop the game and hand the soxs the ws trophy now.

  126. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! October 18th, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    Please help us out here baseball gods.

  127. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 18th, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    “What a bunch of wimps declaring the whole thing over. Like the Sox are god. Give me a break.”

    You got it, I refuse to become the red sox fans from 1919-2004. No doom, no gloom, Red Sox will not play in the world series.

  128. AG October 18th, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    HAH, Pap’s MOUTH. I honestly find humor in that every time.

  129. Littering And October 18th, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    dfox how old are you? do you know what its like to be able to drive, or be able to handle alcohol responsibly? do any of us know what its like to have our own bmw, endorsements, and a future yankee ace tagged to our name? No, so until you know every detail for a fact, please stop the smear campaign against the best pitcher on our team. I’m not defending his actions, but delaying judgement, so please be mature enough to do the same

  130. vtred October 18th, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    Atleast send it to extra innings.

  131. Littering And October 18th, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    garza is definitely a hot head. which does not look good going up against lester.

  132. jennifer October 18th, 2008 at 11:56 pm

    I put this series on Maddon. He got to cocky. He thought he had game 5 in the bag. He takes out Kazmir puts in his pen.

  133. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 18th, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    So apparently papelbon has been doing it since he was a baby…

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com.....cd.jpg?v=0

  134. jennifer October 18th, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    This is so bad. I am sick!

  135. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! October 18th, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    The Rays were 7 outs away from the World Series the other day and now we will have a game 7 in the ALCS.

    :cry:

  136. westy October 18th, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    If only Joba had clipped Youkilis.

  137. jennifer October 19th, 2008 at 12:01 am

    Awful, this is on Joe Maddon. It is his fault that there is a game 7. His team should be resting for Wednesday. Not resting their season on the shoulder of Garza.

  138. Ramon October 19th, 2008 at 12:02 am

    Varitek and Ortiz the heros of the Sox resurrection? lol

  139. Clint October 19th, 2008 at 12:04 am

    Teams do not recover from collapses like the Rays had in game 5.

    Baseball is all about momentum. A young team with no pedigree and no experience facing the defending champs who have done this twice in a row?

    It was a recipe for disaster. This is 100% on Maddon.

  140. WangFan88 October 19th, 2008 at 12:04 am

    just drove home after a big night of drinking and haven’t read any posts yet, what’s up everyone?

  141. Quilvio Imposter October 19th, 2008 at 12:05 am

    Can the Giants please win tomorrow atleast to put this awful baseball season on the backburner?

  142. jennifer October 19th, 2008 at 12:05 am

    WangFan88 October 19th, 2008 at 12:04 am

    just drove home after a big night of drinking and haven’t read any posts yet, what’s up everyone?
    ____________

    hardy harr harr harr.

  143. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 12:06 am

    I don’t want to hear about what a good guy Joba is anymore -IMO, drunk drivers are attempted murders and nothing less

    I am not inclined to have any sympathy for Joba whatsoever – right now, I am beyond angry and I don’t care if he gets help or not. Some poor innocent person could have been killed and it’s just the grace of God that that didn’t happen.

    I also will not play dime story psychiatrist, but remember that there were stories late last year and early this year that some Yankee veterans had to talk to Joba about getting a big head and doing too much with his instant fame. He’s just another spoiled athlete who thinks he is invincible. His 99 MPH doesn’t do much for me anymore.
    __________________

  144. ugh October 19th, 2008 at 12:07 am

    2008 = worst baseball season ever.

  145. DMan October 19th, 2008 at 12:07 am

    I think I’m going to throw up.

  146. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 12:08 am

    Wow – everyone makes mistakes? We’re worried about a potential ace in a car crash? I can’t believe what I’m reading, seriously. Pathetic.

  147. DMan October 19th, 2008 at 12:10 am

    This season couldn’t be scripted better for a sox fan.

    a tean doesn’t come from down 7-0 in a game then lose. they’re not going to be stopped now.

    i’m disgusted.

  148. NJ in Tampa October 19th, 2008 at 12:10 am

    What an idiot.

  149. Spyder October 19th, 2008 at 12:11 am

    Joba made a mistake, kids are allowed to make mistakes.

    He still throws 98 MPH and is still our ace.

    Just like you have to put up with shady characters like Ownens, Moss, Burress, Ray Lewis, Deion Sanders, etc. in the NFL if you want to win… you sometimes have to out up with recklessness in a player.

    Not everyone is going to be a model citizen. If he helps us win, thats all that matters. He is still the face of the franchise next to Jeter and Arod. He is our only young player who is any good.

    Stop taking the easy way out and get him help instead of saying stupid things like he should be locked up or sent to the minors.

  150. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 19th, 2008 at 12:11 am

    ““It’s not like 85-90% of the US driving age people haven’t driven when they shouldn’t have.”

    spoken by someone who has never had a friend or relative killed or injured by a drunk driver. So it’s ok since most everyone does it. genius.”

    You mean it isn’t a fact that drinking and driving is rampant in this country? I’m constantly staggered by how many people frequently do it where I live. It still blows my mind how many people I know do it frequently and have never been caught…yet.

    I’ve never quite got the “open container” law here. I get the part about not driving around with an open beer next to you, that is perfectly understandable. But the situations in which I’ve seen it applied to people seem a tad draconian to me how far that law can be applied too.

  151. tom October 19th, 2008 at 12:12 am

    Joba will be fine, he is still our ace.

    As long as he learns from it, he’ll be fine

  152. DMan October 19th, 2008 at 12:13 am

    I wish I could care about what happened with Joba tonight. I’m to busy be nauseous about the sox.

  153. MoBoy(aka McLovin) October 19th, 2008 at 12:13 am

    THis Rays team like the Tigers in 2006 are gonna blow it relying on too many young players.The Red Sox are gonna beat the Rays with post season expirence.Not kids.

  154. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 12:14 am

    What a surprise that people are finding excuses for Joba – sorry, I don’t buy the “he’s 22, everyone his age has made mistakes before”. Drunk driving is not a mistake, it’s a terrible, selfish CHOICE. Now I’m going to get bashed for being too hard on this poor kid, right? Wow – everyone should be born with a million dollar arm as buys a LOT of leeway.

  155. Fran October 19th, 2008 at 12:14 am

    I think that the Rays bubble is about to burst. They lost all the momentum when they blew that 7-0 lead the other night. Boston has to have the edge going into Game 7.

  156. JR Yankees October 19th, 2008 at 12:15 am

    In other news, what are the chances the Rays can pull off a miraculous Game 7 win?

  157. Mark in Tampa October 19th, 2008 at 12:15 am

    “Teams do not recover from collapses like the Rays had in game 5.”

    Doesn’t anybody remember games 4 and 5 in ’01 and the devastation brought upon BK Kim and Arizona? They had a pretty good bounce back from 2 9th inning collapses. However, I do think that the Rays will need a great performance(7 or 8 innings-one run or less) from Garza to take this game.

  158. Felix the Gardener October 19th, 2008 at 12:16 am

    This will make him a better person when he gets punished for this.

    His head was starting to swell, he needed to be knocked down a peg.

    A dumb decision but you hope he learns from this and makes him even more hungrier come ST.

  159. DMan October 19th, 2008 at 12:17 am

    people do yourselves a favor. don’t even watch game 7. the rays have exactly 0 chance.

  160. mel October 19th, 2008 at 12:17 am

    If anyone can ignore the magnitude of game 7 and do what he needs to, it’s Matt Garza. He’s cocky, err, confident enough to do it.

    He’s going to have to be spot on. Lester won’t lay two rotten eggs in a row.

  161. AROD fan October 19th, 2008 at 12:17 am

    i don’t watch joba chamberlain to get any moral lessons or to listen to him confess about breaking the law or doing bad things.

    i watch him to see his rockin fastball.

    the last thing i am interested in is a comment from him, his agent, or the yankees.

    this blog is supposed to be about THE YANKEES.

  162. JINT October 19th, 2008 at 12:18 am

    Joba throws 99 and is a terrific young player. He made a mistake, now we must learn from it.

  163. Mark in Tampa October 19th, 2008 at 12:18 am

    Very disappointed with the Joba news, but if this is his only transgression from here on out, this will be forgotten in no time.

  164. X-Mann October 19th, 2008 at 12:19 am

    The only intrigue I have tomorrow is if the Rays/Sox game 7 will out-do Bucs/Seahawks in ratings.

    Other than, there is no reason to watch game 7, we know the Sox will roll over Garza and Lester will throw a shutout.

  165. NJ in Tampa October 19th, 2008 at 12:19 am

    “What a surprise that people are finding excuses for Joba – sorry, I don’t buy the “he’s 22, everyone his age has made mistakes before”. Drunk driving is not a mistake, it’s a terrible, selfish CHOICE. Now I’m going to get bashed for being too hard on this poor kid, right? Wow – everyone should be born with a million dollar arm as buys a LOT of leeway.”

    Agreed. Its not even the fact that he could have killed himself, he could have killed someone else as well. Thankfully he didn’t but people should be held accountable for their actions. I love the kid, but this was just stupid.

  166. Mark in Tampa October 19th, 2008 at 12:20 am

    Right now, I’m just happy that Roger Goodell isn’t the MLB commish.

  167. Only umps on the take hate instant replay! October 19th, 2008 at 12:20 am

    drunk drivers are attempted murders and nothing less

    Some poor innocent person could have been killed and it’s just the grace of God that that didn’t happen.

    I also will not play dime story psychiatrist, but… (goes on to play dime store psychiatrist)

    Whoa…

    o_O

  168. Yank1 October 19th, 2008 at 12:21 am

    As long as he learns from this and doesn’t let it affect his performance, this won’t be a big deal.

    Joba is our ace, we need to get him help rather than suspend him or send him to the minors.

  169. Nick in SF October 19th, 2008 at 12:21 am

    I was inclined to hold off on judging Joba, but now I’m starting to think he’s worse than O.J.

  170. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 19th, 2008 at 12:22 am

    No Betsy, but some of us take the there but for the grace of God or whatever deity or belief system you have.

    I dont like what he did one bit, I won’t condone it and I wont make excuses.

    But it is NOT making excuses for him to acknowledge that he’s human and ALL humans are falliable and make mistakes.

    That is a fact, all self righteous indignation aside.

  171. AROD fan October 19th, 2008 at 12:22 am

    If you are writing long and detailed posts about joba’s driving, why aren’t you writing long detailed posts about madonna or the chicks Cashman and Girardi (gross) are dating?

    i bet you couldn’t find a single article this long about any politician’s DUI.

  172. toms river October 19th, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Can we wait for the whole story to come out before we chastise our young phenom?

    Maybe he has a good reason for this, There are 2 sides to every story.

  173. mel October 19th, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Nick,

    He throws 98, not drive 98.

  174. Mark in Tampa October 19th, 2008 at 12:24 am

    Joba has to be about the biggest celebrity in Nebraska right now. Why didn’t he say to the cop: “Do you know who I am?”

  175. LLIME October 19th, 2008 at 12:24 am

    Sidney Ponson WAS a bad influence on him.

    Shame on Cashman for bringing him in here.

    1. He wasn’t even good
    2. He was a bad influence. He showed up drunk to a game!

  176. mel October 19th, 2008 at 12:25 am

    How long until someone blames this on Girardi’s draconian ways? :?

  177. NITRO October 19th, 2008 at 12:26 am

    I hope we don’t have a young Pacman Jones on our hand.

    But as long as he throws 99, he’ll be fine

  178. Mark in Tampa October 19th, 2008 at 12:27 am

    mel,

    That was my first thought. This was Joba’s way of letting loose after no candy and ice cream all year!

  179. Tank October 19th, 2008 at 12:27 am

    This is Girardi’s fault.

    If he wasn’t such a dictator and let his players have fun during the season this never would have happened

  180. AG October 19th, 2008 at 12:28 am

    “He showed up drunk to a game!”

    Seriously? Just wondering.

  181. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 12:28 am

    Angel, spare me your righetous indignation garbage, ok? I don’t buy the “everyone makes a mistake” – this wasn’t a mistake and this didn’t just “happen” to him. Sheesh, I guess the fact that he was lucky and didn’t kill anyone also buys a lot of leeway.

  182. Mark in Tampa October 19th, 2008 at 12:28 am

    Pacman throws 99? Sign him up.

  183. Rampn October 19th, 2008 at 12:28 am

    So, could he face jail time?

    Whats the sentence if he’s found guilty? month?

  184. Y26 October 19th, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Anybody who throws 99 is free from any punishment :)

  185. harwood October 19th, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Arod has some serious competition now for the offseason press. This kids got chops.

  186. pat October 19th, 2008 at 12:29 am

    I know politics is taboo but if you didn’t just see Gov. Palin’s skit on SNL, look for it on youtube at some point cause it’s worth the watch.

  187. vtred October 19th, 2008 at 12:30 am

    Maybe he was chewing beer flavored gum? I’m sure somebody on the black market has invented that by now.

  188. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 12:30 am

    A good reason for driving drunk? I truly underestimated the cult of Joba here – on the other hand, it makes it so much easier for me to not people seriously anymore.

  189. Mark in Tampa October 19th, 2008 at 12:31 am

    the fact that he was lucky and didn’t kill anyone means that he will face the consequences of a DUI like everybody else, and not a vehicular homicide charge. Just hope that he comes to truly understand just how negligent and stupid that DUI really is.

  190. Nick in SF October 19th, 2008 at 12:31 am

    It wasn’t a mistake?

  191. DMan October 19th, 2008 at 12:31 am

    I wish I could care as much about Joba tonight as some of you…

    I’m more worried about having to deal with yet another season of the sox as champs.

  192. mel October 19th, 2008 at 12:32 am

    K. Well that didn’t take long. Shame on Girardi for taking the Mickeys and minis out of the clubhouse.

  193. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 19th, 2008 at 12:34 am

    It is self righteous indignation though, Betsy. I mean look at some of this stuff. People build celebrities, sports stars and what have you into something more than humans, and then have the nerve to act all surprised and disgusted when they act like humans.

    What he did was wrong and he should be made accountable for it. He’s fortunate that he was caught BEFORE he could hurt some innocent person/s. Nothing changes that.

  194. Rock em Sock em Robots October 19th, 2008 at 12:34 am

    Why is it that all these celebrities and rich athletes cant just pay for a cab or a driver when they go out to drink?

  195. Forntoso October 19th, 2008 at 12:35 am

    Hughes and Kennedy wouldn’t get away with this because they don’t throw 99

    Once you are at that magic number, you are immune!

  196. JR Yankees October 19th, 2008 at 12:35 am

    This story from the AP:

    In an effort to please all of the angry fans who feel Joba Chamberlain should be ‘punished’ by the Yankee organization in addition to the fines, community service, and other legal issues he is facing, Hank Steinbrenner released the following statement:

    “I, like many, are extremely disappointed in the actions of Joba Chamberlain. In order to force him to learn his lesson Joe [Girardi] and I feel as though he shouldn’t be allowed to start games for us.

    Earlier this week I decided that our plan was for SP Joba Chamberlain to actually start but we feel he is no longer deserving of this and will therefore be banished to the bullpen. We are confident that this is the best move to further punish the young fellow.”
    ____________________________________________________________

    I know he screwed up, you know he screwed up, and I am sure that at this point he knows he screwed up. He is a big boy and will suffer the appropriate consequences.

    When I was younger and I did something stupid, and yes alcohol was involved, I know I felt worse when I knew I had let down my father.

    Like me, being as close to his father as he is, I am sure Joba is deeply regretting his actions and I think most of the comments here tonight where people are suggesting how to ‘punish’ Joba are a little ridiculous.

  197. dave October 19th, 2008 at 12:36 am

    now the suxx prolly won the series – worst season ever for the yankee fan

  198. mark October 19th, 2008 at 12:36 am

    Hey Dman I got a great idea. Don’t watch game 7. Don’t watch the rest of the postseason. Then you won’t have to keep falling apart in front of everyone.

    I’ll be around to watch the Rays take game 7.

    Outta here.

  199. pat October 19th, 2008 at 12:36 am

    DUI is not a good thing but luckily he did not hurt anyone else or himself physically this time. Why not let the criminal system play out before you suspend him, fine him, trade him or take him out to Monument Park and shoot him.

    He’ll issue an apology for what he did, deal with the legal consequences and hopefully learn from it and never do it again.

  200. AROD fan October 19th, 2008 at 12:37 am

    “Joba was advertised as a role model, sort of like Jeter.”
    The notion of athletes as role models is a pretty bogus one to me. We really don’t know these guys and most know plenty of people in their everyday lives who are ACTUAL role models.”

    Agreed. If you are letting your children look up to baseball players as role models and not letting them share in your love of good sports, then you are a bad parent! show them real role models!

    it’s like this need we have to push roided up sports stars on kids who are terminally ill. disgusting. teach your kids to have real role models, not to spend their time learning about the dirty details of their favorite sports stars personal lives.

    now this is an entire thread about the moral issues of drunk driving and not about sports. and i’ve totally been pulled in!

  201. West Coast Guy October 19th, 2008 at 12:37 am

    Keep an open mind until all the facts are in.

  202. Sid October 19th, 2008 at 12:37 am

    Betsy – If this was Hughes, you’d be doing the same thing. You’ve had something against Joba for months because he eclipsed Hughes as a prospect. You also didn’t like how quickly he ascended to greatness, quicker than Hughes.

  203. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 12:38 am

    I’m sure most people will consider it a mistake.

    People are getting caught up on semantics. It wasn’t an ACCIDENT, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a mistake.

    To the person who thinks drunk driving is bad but not as bad as an open container, very few open containers have led to deaths. It’s the drunk driving that’s particularly dangerous, not an open beer can.

    I can only speak for the laws of New York State and some surrounding states, but rarely does a person face jail time on a first time offense and, if they do, it’s a nominal amount — a few days — to make a point.

  204. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 12:38 am

    Angel, I feel this way about ALL people who drive drunk – this has nothing to do with Joba being a celebrity. Of course people are human and make mistakes, but as I said, I do not view drunk driving as a mistake. It was a TERRIBLE choice that he made and the fact that he got lucky does not mitigate that choice for me. There is nothing in the world that gets me as angry as drunk drivers – nothing.

  205. GreenBeret7 October 19th, 2008 at 12:38 am

    toms river
    October 19th, 2008 at 12:23 am
    Can we wait for the whole story to come out before we chastise our young phenom?

    Maybe he has a good reason for this, There are 2 sides to every story.

    _______________________________________________________

    I don’t see a good reason for this in any way, shape or form. What he did was stupid and any mistake he made was in judgement, but crucifying him here is just as stupid.

    He’s going to pay a heavy cost, and, the DUI charge would come even if it’s under the legal limit. There is in most states a difference between DUI and DWI. That open container was enough for the arrest, as was the compounding issue of speeding.

    If I’m not mistaken, baseball has instituted an intervention regulation. If not, Nebraska has a DUI education requirement in order to get your driver’s license reinstated, along with requesting the reinstatement thru the state. Every state is also connected to each other and the charge will be in all 50 states DMV bureaus, which means his driving priviledges has been suspended in all 50 states.

  206. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 19th, 2008 at 12:38 am

    Hey Betsy tell us about any of the other thousands of people arrested for DUI last night. Oh wait it doesnt matter because they can’t throw 99. It cuts both ways. He doesn’t get ANY leeway. In fact, he is going to pay the same nonsense fine, have his license suspended, do community service every other 22 year old first offense gets. Only difference is his name is going to be plastered across every sports page in the country. (and hey they’re sports writers writing about a sports figure I guess.) But enough with the “He should know better!” nonsense. Made a bad choice, so did many of our friends and family. We didn’t stop being their friend or family (maybe you did who knows) we just moved on a day or two later…

  207. DPF October 19th, 2008 at 12:39 am

    JR Yankes.

    But isn’t Joba a father himself?

  208. Sea Net October 19th, 2008 at 12:39 am

    Rays have their #3 starter, who is a hot head and very hittable, going up against Boston’s ace with all the momentum.

    How on earth could anyone be confident that TB will win tomorrow night? They got 2 runs and 4 hits against a banged up Beckett tonight and got shutout for 4 innings by their horrid pen.

  209. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 12:39 am

    So choices can’t be mistakes? Huh?

  210. mel October 19th, 2008 at 12:40 am

    The open container tells me he was cruising. That’s so…low.

  211. TurnTables October 19th, 2008 at 12:41 am

    Joba has a son, yes.

    He also had a GF he was supposed to marry, I don’t know if he ever did. He hangs out at nightclubs in Manhattan during the season a lot. He has hosted parties with Alysa Milano and that chick from Danity Kane. Maybe he is a free swinger like A-Rod.

  212. Vader October 19th, 2008 at 12:42 am

    Nick,

    Are you talking about the current OJ or the circa 90′s version?

  213. West Coast Guy October 19th, 2008 at 12:42 am

    Some of you sound like you are ready lynch him before the facts are in. Remember, one is innocent until proven guilty. All you now have are allegations which must be proven. Use some common sense, not some knee-jerk reaction.

  214. DPF October 19th, 2008 at 12:42 am

    Was he cruising to go home to his son?

  215. Mark in Tampa October 19th, 2008 at 12:42 am

    I think it’s Arod’s fault. He probably planted the open container in the car.

  216. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 19th, 2008 at 12:43 am

    Say something funny Nick !! lol

  217. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 12:43 am

    Mel – I take back what I said. I think you make a good point. It’s one thing to have a few drinks, stop drinking and think you are okay to drive home (or test the limits) and get caught. It’s a lot more brazen to drink a beer while you are driving home. I stand somewhat corrected.

  218. TeKNetiCK October 19th, 2008 at 12:44 am

    Maybe the opened bottle was a friend’s drink and Joba didn’t want him to drink anymore so he took it from him. Maybe his friend is an AA member.

    Didn’t Michael Irvin do something like that with a crackpipe that was his friends?

  219. Redding October 19th, 2008 at 12:46 am

    When the Yankees PR director writes Joba a beautifully-worded statement for him to read aloud to the media expressing his apology, we will all forgive him and pretend it never happened.

  220. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 19th, 2008 at 12:46 am

    “There is nothing in the world that gets me as angry as drunk drivers – nothing.”

    I truly understand that anger – I’ve been there. I certainly wasn’t referring to you when I was talking about self righteous indignation.

    I’ve done a lot of stupid things in my life where I could have hurt myself and others, but I can honestly say have never had a drink and driven. I learned the consequences of that one the hard way – and young.

    I was just saying that acknowledging he was human and humans do things like this, wasn’t in any way making excuses for him.

  221. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 12:46 am

    The beer can was on the front passenger seat. Maybe the beer can is his friend?

    And yes, everyone’s innocent until proven guilty as far as the criminal process is concerned, but on message boards we are going to discuss this in worst case scenarios. That’s what we do here.

  222. Mark in Tampa October 19th, 2008 at 12:46 am

    Or maybe Arod opened the bottle, started to drink, and choked on it. Then, he couldn’t deal with the heat in the car, and got out, leaving Joba to drive by himself. It is always Arod’s fault somehow.

  223. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 12:46 am

    Sid, your comment is sickenining. Whatever, dude. I would feel this way if a member of my own family drove drunk, nevermind Phil. The fact that you bring him up here is beyond ludicrous….You want to make excuses for Joba and explain his behavior away because you drool over him as a prospect? Go right ahead – it says more about you than me. This isn’t about baseball, period.

  224. mel October 19th, 2008 at 12:46 am

    Drew,

    Haha. I’m the Judge Judy of the board. That’ll be 500 hours of community service. And to make sure you never do it again, Joba, 100 innings pitched in 2009.

    Tek,

    Read your first paragraph and thought immediately of Irvin. Good one.

  225. mark October 19th, 2008 at 12:47 am

    Rays have their #3 starter, who is a hot head and very hittable, going up against Boston’s ace with all the momentum.

    Their #3 very hittable starter pitched 1 run ball last time out. Seems the Rays had all the momentum going into game 5 and you saw how that worked out.

    Momentum is only as good as your next game’s starting pitcher.
    Garza and the Rays beat Lester 9-1 last time out. I’ll stick with the Rays.

  226. Nick in SF October 19th, 2008 at 12:49 am

    I was talking about OJ Anderson, MVP of Super Bowl XXV for the New York Giants.

    Joba is still better than OJ Simpson.

  227. Oddessy October 19th, 2008 at 12:51 am

    Joba will be fine. Just don’t do it again and serve your time.

    At the end of the day, he is still our ace and phenom. Lets wait for him to speak before we rush to judegements

  228. JR Yankees October 19th, 2008 at 12:51 am

    DPF:

    Indeed he is a father himself and that furthers my point.

    My biggest issue when I was in trouble was hurting my folks and especially my father who had to come and get me. Compound that with knowing his child will someday learn of his carelessness and he is probably feeling worse than ever.

    However, it all goes back to learning his lesson on his own and we are in no position to determine how he should be punished.

  229. pat October 19th, 2008 at 12:51 am

    “To the person who thinks drunk driving is bad but not as bad as an open container”

    If you are refering to me, I said DUI may be bad but open container is just stupid. Having a beer or 2 and thinking you are okay to drive can make you guilty of bad judgement. Having an open container in his car makes him guilty of stupidity.

    This is a 23 year adult with a decent income who can legally drink in a licensed establishment and not an 18 year old who had someone score him a 6 pack and has no place to go drink it other than cruising with buddies.

  230. Ralph C October 19th, 2008 at 12:51 am

    Moron. No excuse for this. He could have killed an innocent person. Remember Leyritz? As far as I’m concerned, if they keep him, why not bring in Manny?

  231. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 19th, 2008 at 12:51 am

    Angel: finally a voice of reason amongst the din. And I just noticed the Faulkner reference in your tag. Or is it Macbeth? Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player That struts and frets his hour upon the stage.

  232. GreenBeret7 October 19th, 2008 at 12:52 am

    An open container can be anything from an old beer can that was under the seat from a year ago or a liquor or wine bottle that had the seal broken, even though not a drop is missing. It doesn’t mean a mixed drink in somebody’s hand or a beer can with some beer in it. The driver can also be busted for the open container if somebody in the back seat has the drink in his possession. He made a stupid error/mistake in judgement. He’s not a murderer, nor is he a child molester or rapist. Stop acting like he is.

  233. freddy k October 19th, 2008 at 12:52 am

    Atleast Joba didn’t lead a police pursuit through the Nebraska interstate (while being drunk)… so he is above OJ, for now.

    Make him do his 5000 hours of community service and we can move on.

  234. mel October 19th, 2008 at 12:54 am

    Well, at least he wasn’t cutting lines of coke in a darkened cornfield.

  235. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 12:54 am

    Pat – I acknowledged that my post was a little short-sighted. I’ve already started my Mel-Ordered community service.

    For an assistant district attorney, I kind of dropped the ball on that one.

  236. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 19th, 2008 at 12:54 am

    I just wish he could do his community service in the Arizona Fall League.

  237. JINT October 19th, 2008 at 12:55 am

    Maybe the original drive of the car was feeling sick or passed out and Joba didn’t know what to do with him, so he put him on the sidewalk for the time being while he rushes to the police station in his friend’s car. He was thirsty and reached for a can of, what he thought was water, and the police immediately pulled him over.

  238. DPF October 19th, 2008 at 12:57 am

    YJR.

    OK. Agree to disagree.

  239. Mark in Tampa October 19th, 2008 at 12:57 am

    “Maybe the original drive of the car was feeling sick or passed out and Joba didn’t know what to do with him, so he put him on the sidewalk for the time being while he rushes to the police station in his friend’s car. He was thirsty and reached for a can of, what he thought was water, and the police immediately pulled him over.”

    Yeah, yeah that’s the ticket!

  240. mel October 19th, 2008 at 12:58 am

    Joba’s not getting arrested for an old can lying around the car.

    He probably wasn’t even mildly buzzing.

    He got taken in because it was bad.

    It’s not like he got profiled. He’s a hero in Nebraska so it does the cop no good for bringing him in on bogus charges.

  241. pat October 19th, 2008 at 12:59 am

    “I think it’s Arod’s fault.”

    Not this time. G. Love says he’s in Africa but we haven’t confirmed if it is the continent of Africa or if Africa is a city somewhere on the Easy Coast. There was no mention of him being in Nebraska though.

  242. Quilvio Imposter October 19th, 2008 at 12:59 am

    The speaks volume about the lack of leadership on the team. He is very close with Clemens (went to the Texas game together last year) and this year he spent a lot of time with A-Rod and Giambi.

    Poor kid, nobody is there to guide him. He doesn’t have a O;Neil or a Scott Brosius to lead him.

  243. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 12:59 am

    Rob, I have no idea what your point is and at this time, I don’t care. Are you trying to muster sympathy because Joba is going to have his name splashed all over the papers?

    Angel, I understand where you’re coming from, I do……but acknowledging that Joba is human doesn’t make me feel any better. Human beings make plenty of bad choices, but not everyone makes bad choices where lives are at stake. I’m being truthful here – I’m not going to pretend that after Joba serves his time that things are going to change with me. I’m extremely unyielding on drunk drivers and I admit it. I recognize that not everyone feels the same; what I don’t understand is how some people can just pass it off as a youthful mistake. It does appear to me that some (not all) want to mitigate this disaster because Joba is a cornerstone of our franchise. I can’t understand that, but I guess what it comes down to is that, beyond the legal punishment, everyone is going to have his or her standard of what is acceptable to them or not.

  244. #9 October 19th, 2008 at 12:59 am

    I never drink & drive.

    I guzzle at red lights.

  245. mark wahlberg October 19th, 2008 at 12:59 am

    J ä b a m e i s t e r

    i always felt joba had a little david wells in him.
    hey joba say hi to yer mom 4 me.

  246. JR Yankees October 19th, 2008 at 1:00 am

    DPF, you didn’t say anything for me to disagree with though. I was just answering your question.

    Was there a point you were making?

  247. pat October 19th, 2008 at 1:00 am

    Freudian slip? Easy Coast = East Coast

  248. John October 19th, 2008 at 1:01 am

    Drew:

    Just curious, what county are you an ADA in? I’m assuming it’s a county in NY?

    Thanks.

  249. DPF October 19th, 2008 at 1:01 am

    Warren Buffett is hero in Nebraska. Joba? May take a few more starts to be a hero.

  250. pat October 19th, 2008 at 1:01 am

    “this year he spent a lot of time with A-Rod and Giambi.”

    Says who?

  251. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 1:02 am

    Green Beret, he’s not a murderer because he got lucky. If that makes a huge difference to you in how you view him, fine, but it’s just your opinion and is no more valid than mine. IMO, the crime of drunk driving, regardless of the actual consequences, is extremely serious. I find it disturbing that so many people keep mentioning “ace” in their comments, as if that automatically should engender more sympathy.

  252. R-Tek October 19th, 2008 at 1:02 am

    Why didn’t he just pay people to carry him home if there was no cab available? Thats what A-Rod does.

  253. Chris498 October 19th, 2008 at 1:02 am

    This isn’t much of a surprise to me. I get the whole party hard mentally from Joba, reminds me of Giambi. Although Joba is a little younger, and less wise than Giambi. I can see this happening again down the road. Let’s just hope it’s not in the middle of the season.

  254. Vulcan max October 19th, 2008 at 1:02 am

    Just another case of an Indian who can’t hold his “firewater”. Wish these young players like Joba take care of their bodies and not rely only on their talent!

  255. mel October 19th, 2008 at 1:03 am

    A-rod drinks? I thought his body was a (kabbalah) temple.

  256. Soul October 19th, 2008 at 1:03 am

    Our ace will be fine, he just needs one of the vets to light a fire under him.

    When he is blowing away the Orioles hitters on opening day, we will forget this.

  257. For $13 I'll be a Macadamia Nut October 19th, 2008 at 1:04 am

    Drinking and driving is stupid, but Betsy here doesn’t know any of the facts and is willing to condemn a kid. How impared was Joba? What was his Blood Alcohol Content? Was he driving poorly other than speeding, like weaving all over the road?

  258. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 1:04 am

    John – I am in New York, yes. Does it make me a wimp if I don’t want to say which?

  259. Nick in SF October 19th, 2008 at 1:04 am

    “what I don’t understand is how some people can just pass it off as a youthful mistake.”

    Because he’s young and this was a mistake? Just a theory.

  260. sweet lou October 19th, 2008 at 1:05 am

    mel,

    Maybe Joba was rushing home in order to join A-Rod and Madonna via Webcam for them to have their joint Kaballah session. Madonna told him he had to be completely cleansed and he interpreted that as ‘drunk’?

  261. JME October 19th, 2008 at 1:05 am

    stupid ass, my best friend was killed by a drunk driver. It pisses me off when I hear that there still jackasses out there who drive drunk. & great setting an example for your son.

    I like Joba, but I’m disappointed. I guess when you loose someone close to you that stuff can really bother you

  262. mel October 19th, 2008 at 1:06 am

    The funniest one is newlywed Dontrelle Willis gets busted for drinking and driving his Rolls in South Beach. They couldn’t quite tell if he was drunk because he’s always falling over himself on the mound.

  263. Mr. Positivity October 19th, 2008 at 1:06 am

    Can we please wait for him to speak and for the facts to come out before declaring that he is now OJ Simpson/Pacman Jones?
    Doesn’t our ace deserve better than this?

  264. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 1:07 am

    The biggest concern that Joba, his family, and the Yankees should have over this is the same concern that anyone arrested, their family, and their employers should have. Does Joba have a drinking problem that needs to be addressed? Does he have the potential for a drinking problem in the future? And will that roll over into the criminal arena again and put more people in danger?

    Obviously, if he’s innocent, that concern lessens. But if not, steps need to be taken to decrease the chances of things getting worse.

  265. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 19th, 2008 at 1:08 am

    My point? Well since you don’t care I’ll elaborate. You’re talking about how he is getting some kind of sympathy from people because he is a celebrity and he gets off light because of his heater. I’m saying that he gets more of a raw deal than your average civilian because of it, that’s why I mentioned the papers.

    What it comes down to betsy is that he is a baseball player, and so I will enjoy the way he plays baseball. I don’t have to like his decisions, or his choices because he’s a grown man. He had a child without being married, should we freak out about that too?

  266. Z (sign Sheets) October 19th, 2008 at 1:08 am

    All you need to know about if Tampa is dead or alive–

    Boston’s bullpen threw 4 hitless, scoreless innings against them.

    They are done. Lester isin’t going to have 2 bad outings in a row just like Beckett didn’t. Rays are holding the bat tighter, game 5 in their heads.

  267. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 1:08 am

    Whatever, Nick. I’ve had enough – I hope you guys all have a good evening.

  268. mell hall's batting stance October 19th, 2008 at 1:09 am

    thank god no one got hurt. i hope joba learns from this and gets some help.

  269. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 1:09 am

    JME – Just curious. Assuming Joba is guilty, what do you think should be done to him, both from the Yankees and the court system?

  270. John October 19th, 2008 at 1:09 am

    Drew:

    Not at all. I’m graduating in May and thinking about taking a job with the Bronx or New York County. I’m still trying to decide whether I want to pay the city prices on that salary or go somewhere else and live a bit more comfortably. Decisions, decisions. . .

  271. DPF October 19th, 2008 at 1:12 am

    YJR.

    I thought the point you were making is that Joba will suffer enough from his actions….I believe that was a big leap from your personal experience and that Joba will have the same guilt or sincerity.

    Just a guess but I would say you are a heck of lot brighter than Joba.

    George Will- Love what they do, not who they are…

  272. GreenBeret7 October 19th, 2008 at 1:12 am

    Betsy
    October 19th, 2008 at 1:02 am
    Green Beret, he’s not a murderer because he got lucky. If that makes a huge difference to you in how you view him, fine, but it’s just your opinion and is no more valid than mine. IMO, the crime of drunk driving, regardless of the actual consequences, is extremely serious. I find it disturbing that so many people keep mentioning “ace” in their comments, as if that automatically should engender more sympathy.

    ____________________________________________________

    I don’t view him any differently now than I did before. I’m not into hero worship. I stopped that when I was 17 years old. I’m a Yankee fan. He screwed up and he’ll pay the consequences for his actions. I’m also not going be stupid enough to say he was attempting murder.

  273. mel October 19th, 2008 at 1:12 am

    If his name is Justin Chamberlain and he works for the Lincoln Parks and Rec this is nothing.

    But because he is a public figure, with the New York Yankees no less, he’s held to a higher standard.

    After the big hullabaloo and a stern lecture from the Yankees, Joba will understand this.

    I’m sure he’ll be mortified when he realizes what happened.

  274. Y26 October 19th, 2008 at 1:12 am

    Atleast the Patriots are not winning a title this year, so we won’t have a trifecta in Boston. We were a David Tyree hail-mary away from that last year.

    Sox will win their 3rd title this year. Tampa is done. Philly has no shot, Myers, Blanton, Moyer will be destroyed.

  275. freddy k October 19th, 2008 at 1:14 am

    mel and Green Barret,

    100% correct. The overreaction here tonight is absurd.

  276. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 1:14 am

    Rob, I’ll grant you that the average citizen will not have his name splashed in the headlines if he DUIs without hurting or killing someone. That said, it doesn’t mitigate anything for me. He’s in the spotlight and he made an incomprehensibly bad choice – he’ll have to deal with it.

    If you feel you can root for him despite what he’s done, well of course that’s your choice. As I said before, we all have our standards as to what is acceptable and what is not. Personally, I find this behavior intolerable. At some point, Joba is going to be back on the team, but I already know how I am going to react.

  277. stuart October 19th, 2008 at 1:14 am

    sea net, the rays not only got shutout for 4 innings by the horrid pen from boston, they got no hit!

  278. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 1:15 am

    John – Well, I did corporate litigation for seven years, then switched to the government five years ago. Perhaps an unusual route, but it was a lifestyle change. I can tell you that I’m living “more comfortably” as you might say. It depends on what you want. I think I would’ve gone out of my mind if I stayed doing what I did originally. This bought me some sanity and I actually like the work I’m doing.

    Often times your school loans make that decision for you, don’t they?

  279. mel October 19th, 2008 at 1:15 am

    Joba’s such a team player. Getting into trouble to take our minds off the Tampa loss. Such a good kid.

  280. Jorge Tabata October 19th, 2008 at 1:16 am

    Could it be that the Joba impersonator from South Jersey found his way to Nebraska and was the one arrested tonight and the real Joba was taking Piano lessons this evening?

  281. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 19th, 2008 at 1:17 am

    Its Macbeth, Rob.

    You can always find an appropriate Shakespeare quote for any given situation, I’ve found. :)

  282. John October 19th, 2008 at 1:17 am

    Drew:

    They certainly do.

  283. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 1:17 am

    Geez – to those of you crucifying Joba, how do you treat your friends who get DWIs?

  284. Guard October 19th, 2008 at 1:17 am

    Joba will be fine.

    Not everyday a kid can throw 100 mph.

    This will be forgotten by Wednesday.

  285. pat October 19th, 2008 at 1:17 am

    Betsy

    The team has very few saints on it. You might run out of people to root for soon.

  286. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 1:18 am

    Jorge – That was hilarious.

  287. Bern Baby Bern October 19th, 2008 at 1:18 am

    Drew,

    I tie them to a wall and throw frozen steaks at them.

  288. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 1:18 am

    GB, well thanks for calling my views stupid. IMO, any drunk driver (no Mel, I don’t hold Joba to a higher standard. Everything I am saying now about him, I say about every other person that drives drunk. You can believe me or not, but it’s the truth) is an attempted murder because that car is a weapon ……it’s a weapon in sober hands. When you get in the car impaired, you know (and if you don’t, it’s worse) that there is the very real chance or hurting or killing innocent people. At that point, there is no choice but to get out of that car and give the keys to someone else……or hire a car and driver.

  289. mel October 19th, 2008 at 1:19 am

    Betsy,

    This is definitely a “no harm-no foul” situation for me.

    He was wrong, totally, but thank goodness no one got hurt. I will still cheer for Joba, but see him in a slightly different light.

    Now, if someone had gotten hurt, that totally changes the scenario. I would condemn him for that.

    Granted, no one close to me has been a victim of a DUI driver.

  290. Clint October 19th, 2008 at 1:20 am

    For community service, they should make him do a jigsaw puzzle of Youkallis’ face.

  291. E-Man October 19th, 2008 at 1:20 am

    I said it before and got bashed here but

    Joba needs to grow up.

    And maybe he should go talk to I don’t know.. Jim Leyritz about what can happen with drinking and driving.

    What an idiot.

  292. mel October 19th, 2008 at 1:21 am

    Clint,

    I prefer that he crack Humpy Dumpy and put him back together again.

  293. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 19th, 2008 at 1:21 am

    “An open container can be anything from an old beer can that was under the seat from a year ago or a liquor or wine bottle that had the seal broken, even though not a drop is missing. It doesn’t mean a mixed drink in somebody’s hand or a beer can with some beer in it. The driver can also be busted for the open container if somebody in the back seat has the drink in his possession.”

    Thats exactly what I meant about the wide lattitude that “open container” violation can be used. People have been arrested for exactly some of those very scenario’s that I know of.

  294. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 1:21 am

    Pat, if you think that there is no middle ground between sainthood and what Joba did tonight, then we have nothing to discuss. I don’t need to root for saints and I already explained how I feel. I really don’t need to defend how I feel anymore and I don’t care if everyone wants to take shots at me. You guys have your opinion and I have mine and none of us are going to change each others minds.

  295. Jeff October 19th, 2008 at 1:21 am

    I’d be more angry at him if he wasn’t so good and didn’t throw 100 mph (yes im serious)

    If this was Chris Britton, I will call for his execution.

  296. Frontier October 19th, 2008 at 1:22 am

    Guys, he is 22 and is our ace.

    Let’s wait for him to speak before we throw stones at him.

  297. JME October 19th, 2008 at 1:23 am

    “JME – Just curious. Assuming Joba is guilty, what do you think should be done to him, both from the Yankees and the court system?”

    Punishment? He is probably going to get away with it just because of who he is. If no jail, then at least community service. I think the yankees or the league should fine him. Like I said when you lose someone so close to you because of someone else’s stupid mistakes, the issue gets sensitive. I just don’t think drunk drivers should get a free ride no matter who they are or even if they didn’t kill anyone.

  298. westy October 19th, 2008 at 1:24 am

    “GB, well thanks for calling my views stupid.”

    Your views aren’t just stupid, they’re self righteous, and premature. You have no idea what the facts here are yet you’ve practically condemned him for murder. Give it a rest, harpy.

  299. DPF October 19th, 2008 at 1:24 am

    I think he is 23 and a father.

  300. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 19th, 2008 at 1:24 am

    Angel: Agreed completely. Great literature is perpetually relevant.

    Betsy: Yeah I can understand your inability to separate your view of him as a decision-making person and your view of him as a pitcher. For me though I can root for him on the field and call him an idiot. There isn’t any disconnect there for me because I can love his persona on the mound and think of the man as an idiot. Somebody mentioned him before. I was a David Wells fan.

  301. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 1:24 am

    Omaha Steaks in this case.

    Attempted Murder? Good Lord. Murder entails the intent to kill another. It’s thinking to yourself, “I want to kill this person, I intend to kill this person, and here’s how I’m going to do it.”

    Do you really think Joba got into his BMW and said those things?

  302. mel October 19th, 2008 at 1:24 am

    Betsy,

    The point I was really trying to get at is that athletes and celebrities need to hold themselves to a higher standard. That means keep your nose clean.

  303. Frontier October 19th, 2008 at 1:25 am

    Guarantee Hank comes out tomorrow and supports him.

  304. AROD fan October 19th, 2008 at 1:25 am

    Betsy

    I suspect that if you really had the conviction you say you do about this issue then you would have a place to air your opinions other than a yankee blog at 1 in the morning.

  305. R-Tek October 19th, 2008 at 1:26 am

    Maybe Joba was acting in a movie and didn’t tell anyone?

  306. GreenBeret7 October 19th, 2008 at 1:26 am

    pat
    October 19th, 2008 at 1:17 am
    Betsy

    The team has very few saints on it. You might run out of people to root for soon.

    _____________________________________________________

    Hopefully, professional virgins on this board don’t start treating Jeter like a pyrriah.

  307. Marky Mark Talks to Mammals October 19th, 2008 at 1:27 am

    Now I’m gonna talk to a pitcher…Hey Joba, nice beer. I drank a beer like that in Boogie Nights. Did you see that movie? You like throwing at Kevin Youkilis? I produce Entourage. Say hi to your mother for me.

  308. Quilvio Imposter October 19th, 2008 at 1:28 am

    David Wells needs to seek him out and talk to him.

    At the end of the day, he is our prized phenom and we need him to win.

  309. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 1:28 am

    JME – Well, I think you’ll be surprised. He’s going to get some punishment along those lines if he’s found guilty.

    I’m not sure why people think celebrities get off lighter, at least in cases when it’s become public they committed crimes. DA’s Offices are very careful to ensure that celebrities get the same treatment as every other person who votes for the DA. In fact, in most cases, we worry that we are being overly harsh to them because of the public nature of it.

    Everyone remember Paris Hilton? The woman went to jail for driving on a suspended license. I would NEVER see that happen to Joe the Plumber.

  310. Nick in SF October 19th, 2008 at 1:28 am

    Actually, reasoned discussion does sometimes change people’s minds. I mean, maybe not on LoHud, but sometimes…

    Until I know more about what actually happened, I’m not going to strain my oblique jumping to conclusions. Every situation has its own circumstances. Does it help my cred in this matter that I was put in the hospital by a drunk driver?

    I will still root for Joba. Your mileage may vary. That’s ok, it’s a big world.

  311. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 1:29 am

    Mel, we can agree to disagree, no problem. This is something I feel in my gut – I’m very passionate about it and there is no middle ground. I don’t expect to feel differently about Joba when he comes back – I’d be ashamed of myself if I backtracked on this because he’s a Yankee. I can’t even think of rooting for him now.

  312. stuart October 19th, 2008 at 1:29 am

    “big game” james shields is now 0-2 in the only big games of his professional career! i have to laugh.

  313. AJ YANKS October 19th, 2008 at 1:29 am

    I wonder if the other cop in the car came out to assist the officer and looked through the window and pointed and said “ITS JOBA CHAMBERLAIN!! (like the neckless commercial)

  314. E-Man October 19th, 2008 at 1:30 am

    Here’s First offense under Nebraska DUI law:

    The first conviction is a Class W misdemeanor. The court will revoke the driver’s license for 6 months. The mandatory minimum sentence is 7 days in jail and a fine of $400. The maximum penalty that a court may impose is 60 days in jail and a $500 fine.
    If the offender’s BAC was greater than .15, the period of revocation increases to 12 months.

  315. mel October 19th, 2008 at 1:30 am

    Nick,

    What is that? Like 42 unanswered points? Ack.

  316. Nick in SF October 19th, 2008 at 1:30 am

    mel: “murder” is hyperbole. Isn’t ‘manslaughter’ the standard charge in DUI fatalities?

  317. jax gmen October 19th, 2008 at 1:31 am

    stuart,

    these people were fools for thinking that tampa would respond after blowing a 7-0 lead with 7 outs to go.

    the red sox have all the momentum and are in their heads. 4 hits today against a banged up pitcher and horrid bullpen. they are timid.

    the only question that remains for the rest of the 2008 baseball season is if they take out the phillies in 4 or 5.

  318. mel October 19th, 2008 at 1:32 am

    neckless? Giambi?

  319. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 1:32 am

    Ok, Westy – isn’t it hours past your bedtime? I refuse to get into a you-know-what match with you when I can have reasonable, rational discussions with others.

  320. Nick in SF October 19th, 2008 at 1:32 am

    not 42 unaswered, it just seems that way.

  321. tom October 19th, 2008 at 1:33 am

    7 days in jail is fair punishment. some community service probably too.

    Get back on the mound soon Joba and pump those FBs by the Sox hitters!!!

  322. 4 x 4 October 19th, 2008 at 1:34 am

    The kid will be fine. He’ll learn his lesson.

    He is our ace. Talk of suspending him is maddening.

  323. mel October 19th, 2008 at 1:35 am

    Nick,

    ?? at your 1:30 post.

  324. E-Man October 19th, 2008 at 1:35 am

    Keep in mind that 7 days is minimum. The judge could make an example and stick him in there for 60 days.

  325. mark007 October 19th, 2008 at 1:35 am

    Was it potentially somebody wearing a joba chamberlain mask?

  326. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 1:36 am

    Drew, this is really all a matter of interpretation. No, of course I don’t think drunk drivers (not just Joba) intend to kill someone when they get into their car, but that is a big “so what” for me. If Randy Johnson decides to throw a 99 MPH FB at someone’s head, even without intent to kill, that’s attempted murder. You want to make it attempted manslaughter? Whatever……….the point is the same.

    ARod, I really don’t care if you think my convictions are phony.

  327. Caps October 19th, 2008 at 1:37 am

    As long as he is back in time for ST, its fine.

    He is the face of our franchise and only good young player. We need him on the team.

    Let him serve his punishment and move on.

  328. JME October 19th, 2008 at 1:38 am

    JME – Well, I think you’ll be surprised. He’s going to get some punishment along those lines if he’s found guilty.

    I guess we’ll have to wait and see what happens

  329. Sec 231 October 19th, 2008 at 1:39 am

    Betsy-

    I know you’re upset but when he is blowing 98 MPH fastballs by Youkallis and Ortiz and being the ace our staff and carrying us to October, this will all be forgotten… you’ll root for him then, as you should :)

    Joba is a special young talent, our best young pitchers in decades. One mistake shouldn’t derail that.

  330. westy October 19th, 2008 at 1:40 am

    Oh, Betsy – you silly old thing, you’re not engaged in rational discussion you’re just preaching because you just know you’re right. You should have a nice hot coco, think about how silly your are, and never go near a computer again.

  331. KING FELIX October 19th, 2008 at 1:41 am

    LMAO mark

    the responses tonight are hysterical. someone wore a Joba Chamberlain mask? He put the driver of the car on the side of the road and drove away?

    this is too much lol

  332. hank hal October 19th, 2008 at 1:42 am

    Punish him by keeping him in the bullpen all of 2009.

  333. Nick in SF October 19th, 2008 at 1:43 am

    Sorry, I mixed up Drew’s post with yours. I think ‘murder’ has a specific definition:

    . Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder).

  334. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 1:43 am

    Well Betsy, just so we are a clear. You are making up your own legal rules, not the ones that apply in this country. And no, if Randy Johnson throws a 99 mph fast ball at someone’s head it most definitely is not attempted murder. The problem is more with your lessening the seriousness of “murder” by comparing it to stupid behavior – negligence – that ends someone’s life.

    The concept is a simple one. It is much more serious for a person to INTEND to kill another person and then actually kill that person than it is for a person to never intend to kill a person and do it. We are somewhat more forgiving of people who do not have the intent to kill someone. You want to place both of those people on the same level. It’s a big “so what” for you.

    Most people disagree with you. Intent does matter. It’s worse to intend to kill someone. Imagine if you or someone you loved unintentionally killed another person. Be thankful they don’t love in your world.

  335. westy October 19th, 2008 at 1:45 am

    Betsy wouldn’t know a statute from a statue.

  336. vtred October 19th, 2008 at 1:46 am

    Maybe he was cooking a Thanksgiving turkey and went out for a drink and then realized he forgot to turn it off so he rushed home?

    Thats why we should wait for Joba to talk before we jump to conclusions.

  337. miggs October 19th, 2008 at 1:46 am

    Good Lord Betsy give it up.

    Get off your high horse, this is ridiculous.

    Nothing has been proven, no details are clear.

    And even if it is true… no offense but there are a lot worse things a person could do.

    Your relentness bashing and comdemnation of him only make you look short sighted and show a lack perspective.

    Sorry but its true.

  338. miggs October 19th, 2008 at 1:49 am

    Intolerable behavior? Attempted murder?

    Is this a soap opera? Drama 101?

    Its not a black and white issue. Its a little more complicated than that.

    You’re not going to root for him anymore? Did he shoot your dog? Cheat on your sister?

    Give me a break.

  339. Clueless Umps October 19th, 2008 at 1:50 am

    maybe that guy was right… betsy does have something against joba.

    sure sounds like it. not even giving the kid a chance to speak or for the details to come out. short sighted and ignorant.

  340. james October 19th, 2008 at 1:51 am

    “Trevor: Early prediction: Red Sox pen will blow it.”

    Late comment. Trever’s clueless.

  341. Wilson October 19th, 2008 at 1:53 am

    Wow

    Some of you really need to get off your high horses. Some of these responses (really only a couple, the rest of this board has perspective) are just ridiculous.

    You guys are making it sound like he is OJ Simpson so prematurely. Yeah, root against players on your own team, brilliant.

  342. JJNJ October 19th, 2008 at 1:53 am

    This is disappointing. Thank God he didn’t kill anyone.

  343. I am an Imbecile October 19th, 2008 at 1:54 am

    Clearly, Joba was trying to commit murder. The facts prove it. Indeed, when all the facts come out he will have been found guilty of infanticide, regicide, and genocide.

    Also, I’ll never root for Bobby Meacham again because he tried to get everyone killed at the plate.

  344. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 1:55 am

    Sec, I don’t think I will……but if you will, that’s ok. I really don’t know how I will react, to be honest.

    Drew, I obviously understand that killing with the intent to kill is a much more serious crime than doing so unintentionally. However, you are talking about legal definitions – believe it or not, I know that Joba (like anyone else) will not be charged with attempted murder. I really don’t care to get into this any further because it’s apparent that I am a minority of one and this is going in circles. Suffice to say then, that I think any drunk driver is indisputably, unbelievably selfish (regardless of whether anyone is injured or not)………and we’ll leave it there.

  345. I am an Imbecile October 19th, 2008 at 1:55 am

    I agree with Betsy. She am smart.

  346. Caps October 19th, 2008 at 1:55 am

    They need to create remote controlled cars to eliminate this problem alltogether.

  347. westy October 19th, 2008 at 1:57 am

    Every time Betsy says that she’ll stop, she posts again. Need attention much?

  348. miggs October 19th, 2008 at 1:58 am

    Betsy needs a bong rip, a valium, and most importantly…. she needs to throw her keyboard out the window. Now.

  349. AJ YANKS October 19th, 2008 at 2:00 am

    Maybe the Rays should just start Price tomorrow.

    Sox have barely seen him and he is a power lefty. Maybe he can blow by them. Garza is a headcase, this is exactly the type of spot you don’t want him in.

  350. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 19th, 2008 at 2:00 am

    Yeah, Betsy there is no way to really “win” here. No sense in trying to ‘argue’ with folks on stuff like this. I can see where you can’t leave someone’s indiscretions at the door so to speak when they step on the field. I for one can, and it works out for me. If rooting the way you’ve been talking about makes you a happier person, rock on.

  351. Johnny D. October 19th, 2008 at 2:00 am

    Not cool. Definitely lost respect for him.

  352. westy October 19th, 2008 at 2:01 am

    AJ, maybe Garza’s on a short leash with Price waiting in the wings?

  353. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 2:02 am

    Oh please, Miggs- thanks for your opinion. It means nothing to me. I really don’t care what you think of me. You just go on defending Joba and be perfectly happy about it. Some of you are complete hypocrites – I’m not allowed to have an opinion because I don’t agree with you, and I’M the judgmental one?

    Hardy har, Westy – how long did it take for you to think of that one? I have to wonder if you would know the difference between a tort and a tarte? How about boilerplate and a boilermaker? I’m guessing the answer is no to both questions.

  354. miggs October 19th, 2008 at 2:03 am

    I thought they should have used Price in the 7th or 8th inning in game 5.

    Starting him in Game 7 would be asking a little much… he’s pitched what 10 big league innings?

    Defintely would like to see him tomorrow late if they have a lead. I’ve had enough of Howell, Balfour, etc.

    Come on Rays. One more game. Then you can get swept by Philly for all I care.

    Just win tomorrow.

  355. BBB October 19th, 2008 at 2:05 am

    Well, NWA said it best….(Screw) the Police!

    I am extremely against drunk driving though, my cousin was very seriously injured by a drunk driver when he was 17 and I’m a lightweight so I will not even get behind the wheel if I’ve had one beer.

    That said…..firstly, let’s hold off on the firing squad until we find out what his BAC even was. If he was only a few hundredths of a point over who even cares?

    Secondly, everyone who is judging him, GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!!! I am the anti-drinking and driving queen and even I am not judging him. I still did plenty of crazy and illegal things when I was his age and SO DID YOU, no one here is perfect, so take your self-righteousness over to billoreilly.com and leave the rest of us alone!

    Go Yankees! Joba Rules!

  356. Betsy October 19th, 2008 at 2:05 am

    Thanks, Rob. I think I’ve said all I need to say here. I don’t come onto these boards to fight, but that’s what’s happened and it’s not pleasant. I honestly don’t care what anyone thinks of me, so they can fire away. Have a good evening.

  357. westy October 19th, 2008 at 2:06 am

    Betsy, Betsy, Betsy – you’re so obtuse (quick, run to the dictionary) that you can’t fathom why people are jumping all over you. Well, I’ll type more slowly so you can understand: we don’t know what happened. Joba’s intent (in the law, it’s called mens rea) has not been proved. So, you jumping to conclusions about the facts of this case and his intent makes you look foolish.

  358. miggs October 19th, 2008 at 2:07 am

    Betsy did I ever defend Joba? Did I ever say what he did wasn’t wrong? Go to bed if you can’t comprehend the posts anymore.

    What I expressed what that your view was nonsensical for so many reasons I probably can’t even list them all. It makes you sound ignorant and close minded. Stop whining, no one wants to hear this garbage.

    Its just the facts.

  359. John October 19th, 2008 at 2:07 am

    The Rays are clearly shell shocked. I knew they wouldn’t respond after that collapse.

    But tomorrow, they are a game removed from it and have no time to think. They didn’t need to be in a game 7 situation. A young team, thats so much pressure on them.

    Lets hope they play fast and loose, I doubt it though.

  360. Yank1 October 19th, 2008 at 2:09 am

    As long as this doesn’t stop him from throwing 99, its fine. Our ace made a mistake, it happens.

    The key is where he goes from here.

  361. simple jack October 19th, 2008 at 2:10 am

    Beasty saying Joba a killer drunk makes my eyes rain!

  362. simple jack October 19th, 2008 at 2:11 am

    Miggs, she’s judge, jury, and jobacutioner

  363. BBB October 19th, 2008 at 2:11 am

    As far as what will happen to Joba, I doubt very much if anything at all. Tony LaRussa got arrested for DUI last year and was completely and absolutely poop faced and nothing happened to him. Different sport but Mario Chalmers recently got caught at NBA rookie camp with a bevy of blunts, 40s and bi….uhhh, women….and nothing is happening to him other than a fine. So Joba should be cool as far as Johnny Law is concerned.

    ….yet amazingly, some of the self righteous sanctimonious posters on this board still want to judge him more harshly than an actual court of law will! All I can suggest is get a hobby?

  364. miggs October 19th, 2008 at 2:13 am

    Haha. Some funny stuff on here tonight.

    Betsy is proving to know as much about the criminal justice system as she does about baseball….very little.

    But enough of this nonsense.

    Anyone see Heyman’s article stating the Yankees would be pursuing CC, Burnett, Lowe, AND Tex? Obviously they won’t sign them all but it seems like the checkbook is out folks. Get in line.

  365. Jeter God October 19th, 2008 at 2:13 am

    I don’t condone what he did at all… but its amazing how quickly people are passing judgment on him before the whole story comes out. Saying things like you can’t root for him again and you hope they suspend him? Thats where common sense goes out the window and self-righteousness perspectives cloud judgement. Get off your high horse.

    He’s feeling worse tonight than anyone. Ultimately, it is his reputation and life that is going to be affected.

  366. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 19th, 2008 at 2:13 am

    There is a mens rea for DUI? Seems more like a strict liability thing to me but what do I know.

  367. Jeter God October 19th, 2008 at 2:16 am

    miggs,

    I was encouraged to see that— it appears the Yankees are going for it and not just going to sit back and hope the prospects pan out. Glad to see. Obviously we won’t get everyone, but I’m glad they’ve decided to include guys like Manny, Burnett, Tex etc. They can’t just put all their eggs in the CC basket and hope he comes here when he probably wants to stay in the NL.

    Going to be a very exciting winter– after Thanksgiving, its going to really heat up. But this nightmare season needs to end first, without a Sox title.

  368. westy October 19th, 2008 at 2:16 am

    Mens rea for intent with respect to murder, no? Knucklehead was essentially accusing him of that…

  369. Nick in SF October 19th, 2008 at 2:17 am

    Perhaps there has been a cacology or two in this discussion.

    No matter, the truth will out.

  370. westy October 19th, 2008 at 2:18 am

    Is anyone else worried that Burnett is Pavano II? Seems to me he’s hurt all the time. This is a classic great season in a walk year. I’d stay away unless nothing else presented itself.

    I do want Tex, though. Solid stick, great glove. Yanks need to head in that direction.

  371. westy October 19th, 2008 at 2:19 am

    ok, now I need to run to the OED…cacology?

  372. Quilvio Imposter October 19th, 2008 at 2:20 am

    BBB exactly. Do people even remember La Russa got a DUI in ST of 2007? No.

    I’m disappointed in Joba, but people are making way too much out of it before the details are even released. He’s going to be punished appropriately anyway by the law. He is our ace, we need to make sure he gets help before ST. He is the most important part of the franchise going forward, if there is a developing problem with drinking, it needs to be stopped now. But lets stop chastising the kid.

  373. Soul October 19th, 2008 at 2:21 am

    Maybe Scott Boras is behind this.

  374. BBB (free Joba!) October 19th, 2008 at 2:23 am

    Anyway, I doubt he will but if he does have to do 7 days in jail I think we should all put money on his books! Everyone send $5, cause you know he has given us all way more than 5 bucks worth of enjoyment with that 100 mph heat and devestating slider!

  375. harrs44 October 19th, 2008 at 2:23 am

    If this is true, I have three words for Joba: Dumb, dumb, dumb. Oh, and three more: Call a cab.

  376. jr October 19th, 2008 at 2:37 am

    yikes

  377. Rodderreo October 19th, 2008 at 2:42 am

    What a selfish pig Joba is. He could have Leyritz’ed somebody. I hope he learns from this.

  378. DMan October 19th, 2008 at 2:43 am

    This hasn’t been a great night all around.

  379. E-Man October 19th, 2008 at 2:46 am

    Wang is our ace.

    Joba is our 130 inning count guy who’s probably going to have to end the season in the bullpen next year…. in another “Transition” year to the new stadium.

  380. E-Man October 19th, 2008 at 2:52 am

    “Tony LaRussa got arrested for DUI last year and was completely and absolutely poop faced and nothing happened to him.”

    That’s because he got busted in Florida. Each state has it’s own laws. In Florida, first offense is community service and AA/Drug counseling.

    In Nebraska, First offense is mandatory jail time.

  381. BBB (free Joba!) October 19th, 2008 at 2:58 am

    E-man: I haven’t been following the offseason news as closely since the NBA preseason started, but was very relieved to hear Joba would in fact be a starter going forward. But obviously they still have to keep him within an innings cap, so have they said whether he will start or end the year in the pen? It’s gonna hafta be one or the other and I think he should begin the year in the pen, his starts will be much more valuable in Sept. than in Apr.

    Also I was just on Yahoo Sports News and there was a headline about this “Joba Arrested for DUI” ….so he is recognizable by only his first name now…AND he has a DUI under his belt…he is officially a rock star! I bet he was listening to Motley Crue when he got pulled over :D

    (sorry if anyone thinks that was in bad taste but I think the self righteous judgmentalness is in horrendous taste, so I felt the need to balance it out. Joba is still my boy and always will be! And alcoholism is a DISEASE people. Would you shun someone for having cancer? Ignoramuses.)

  382. NYYanksFan October 19th, 2008 at 3:00 am

    Derek Jeter, Minka Kelly and Roger Clemens attended the Missouri/Texas game Saturday night. Derek Jeter was booed loudly by a crowd of over 98,000 when his picture was shown on the scoreboard in the stadium waving for the camera.

  383. BBB (free Joba!) October 19th, 2008 at 3:01 am

    “That’s because he got busted in Florida. Each state has it’s own laws. In Florida, first offense is community service and AA/Drug counseling.

    In Nebraska, First offense is mandatory jail time.”

    Yeah, I read that above….it’s 7 days, right? I don’t know anything about Nebraska’s laws or court system, but perhaps they will give him time served if he enters a treatment program or attends a certain amount of hours worth of AA meetings. I know that’s been known to happen here in Jersey. Or sometimes they will let people do their sentences at a treatment program.

  384. BBB (free Joba!) October 19th, 2008 at 3:06 am

    I’m more offended by the fact that Jetes was hanging out with Roger Clemens than I am by Joba being drunk.

    Also, I want to say one more thing before calling it a night. I’m not sure if Joba grew up on a reservation but I know he is Native American. Maybe some of you don’t know that drinking and alcoholism are rampant on reservations and in the N-A community. This could have been something Joba was surrounded by since he was a little kid. It doesn’t make his decision to drink and drive a wise one, but people are products of their environments and maybe you shouldnt judge them until you’ve walked in their shoes.

    If he needs help this is a blessing in disguise, and I hope he gets it. Or even if he doesn’t actually have a problem himself, it can only help him to hear the stories from people who have been dragged down and torn into pieces as a result of alcoholism. He is a strong young man and I am sure he will be just fine.

  385. AlexT October 19th, 2008 at 3:12 am

    YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME!

    Joba! DAMNIT JOBA!

    You’re worse than Kiefer – because you know better. I can live without 24 for a year but I cannot live without you in the Yanks rotation

    Son of a 83748374830974uwdfikjlksldfj

  386. kasey October 19th, 2008 at 3:17 am

    what a drag. at least we won’t have to endure another red sox championship. oh, wait.

  387. stuart October 19th, 2008 at 3:22 am

    http://forums.nyyfans.com/show.....8;page=461 if anyone wants to bust a gut laughing, check this out!

  388. WangFan88 October 19th, 2008 at 3:25 am

    jobas the man!!!! dawg can pound beers when cruzing around nebraska, right on man hahahahahaha

    and im WASTED right now! WOOO

  389. SteveB October 19th, 2008 at 3:44 am

    Famous Yankee drinkers— Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Billy Martin, David Wells. Famous Yankee steroids user— Jason Giambi. Famous Yankee home wrecker and unfaithful husband— a-rod. And does anyone remember the young David Cone?

    No one is perfect. Hopefully he learns from the experience. Some of the posters here with their holier-than-thou attitudes really ought to know better.

    Let’s look on the bright side: perhaps batters will be a bit less comfortable standing in the batter’s box facing Joba’s heater.

  390. CCWANGPEAVYJOBABURNETT October 19th, 2008 at 3:47 am

    JOBA SHOULD GET RID OF THIS GOOD BOY IMAGE AND START A NEW BAD BOY IMAGE. JETER SHOULD ALSO DO THE SAME… AND THE REST OF THE YANKEES.

    NOW ALL CASH HAS TO DO IS SIGN SOME BAD GUYS LIKE MANNY.

  391. CCWANGPEAVYJOBABURNETT October 19th, 2008 at 3:49 am

    i always knew joba was riding a high and needed to be brought back down to earth. i hope he learns from this!

  392. CCWANGPEAVYJOBABURNETT October 19th, 2008 at 3:49 am

    WHAT THE HELL!? STOP COPYING MY NAME

  393. CCWANGPEAVYJOBABURNETT October 19th, 2008 at 3:53 am

    I THINK ITS PONSON WHO MADE JOBA DO THIS..

  394. Mista187 October 19th, 2008 at 4:03 am

    …wow, joba used to my one of my favorites on the yankees, i mean, tons of kids lokked up to him, bought his jersy and everything… what a shame that famous people have to get sooo stupid and do these things, when they already have everything.

  395. anthony October 19th, 2008 at 4:15 am

    no schilling, no lowell, no manny, no lugo, an injured beckett, how in the world can they keep winning? i just don’t get it! somebody, anybody, please explain this to me?

  396. Patrick October 19th, 2008 at 4:19 am

    Joba’s a dope for driving under the influence but its not a huge deal IMO. Hopefully he learns a lesson and we can forget about it.

  397. No October 19th, 2008 at 4:39 am

    In other news, Johan Santana was not arrested for drunk driving.

  398. Littering And October 19th, 2008 at 5:07 am

    people like Betsy really need to open their minds. its 2008 and people make mistakes. especially 23 yr olds. i have yet to see any reports that he was drunk driving. the only thing i have read was that he was pulled over for a dui and open container. like numerous other people have said, there are 2 sides to every story and until all the facts are out please dont rush to judgement. an open container can be anything and we dont know if he was drinking this “open container” while driving.
    secondly, i’ve seen dui’s handed out like halloween candy in some cases. he may have had one beer, admitted it to a cop and then given a dui. he could have been a designated driver with a spilled drink in his car from a friend and given a dui.
    the fact is he was pulled over for speeding, and driving a bmw at 1am. i do not defend drunk driving but open your mind before you go around judging everything you read and hear. i have no doubt joba regrets his action and will become a better person because of this.

  399. sevrox October 19th, 2008 at 7:35 am

    some of you folks seriously need to get a life

  400. ken phelps October 19th, 2008 at 8:02 am

    not good. JOBA has always tried to lead by example. A native american getting into any kind of trouble with alcohol is really bad. He better man up on this.

  401. Central CT Yankee October 19th, 2008 at 8:39 am

    Somehow this has got to be A-Rods fault

  402. pat October 19th, 2008 at 8:42 am

    The NY Daily News rounds out the story a little:

    “The trooper detected the smell of alcohol on the Yankee’s breath and saw an open container of alcohol on the front passenger’s seat. Chamberlain was given a preliminary Breathalyzer test on the scene and was then taken to the Cornhusker Place, an emergency detox center in Lincoln, where the area’s drunken drivers spend the night.

    He was given another Breathalyzer test there, but the results were unavailable Saturday night, Collins said.

    Chamberlain was “lodged” on charges of driving while under the influence, having an open container in his car and speeding. He will most likely be arraigned tomorrow, Collins said.

    Reached on his cell phone Saturday night, Harlan Chamberlain, Joba’s father and highly visible fan, said he had no comment.”

  403. Kill.Schill(ing) October 19th, 2008 at 8:44 am

    My god, relax, I see we have a hanging jury today.

    Ladies and gentleman of the jury: do you realize how stringent the DUI law is in Nebraska? The law defines DUI as anyone operating a vehicle with BAC of .08% or higher.

    Do you realize what that means? For someone of Joba’s weight, about 230, four drinks in one hour would result in DUI violation.

    Come on, none of you have ever driven after two doubles in an hour.

    Damn, Sidney and Rasner starts this season often drove me to consume that much and without the adrenaline rush diminishing in the slightest besides.

    Come on, the kid is 22. Didn’t any of you do reckless things at that age? Don’t you recall how invulnerable you felt back then?

    Give Joba a break. It’s not like he pulled a Leyritz and got behind the wheel when he could barely walk. They pulled JC over speeding, not for exhibiting signs of impairment.

    Joba screwed up– you do that when you’re a kid. Fortunately, no one was hurt. I’m sure it won’t happen again.

    The defense rests.

  404. Troy October 19th, 2008 at 8:47 am

    f’ing idiot

  405. Kill.Schill(ing) October 19th, 2008 at 8:50 am

    And I want to know what in God’s name is being done to stop this freakin Boston team.

    Now, there’s a client I’d love to defend: the team that puts their foot on the Red Sox neck and breaks it this time.

    Garza has to pitch inside and brush Youklis, Drew, and the Midget off the plate.

    If Boston wins tonight, I swear you guys might have to defend ME because I’m likely to down 60 scotches in an hour and take a joy ride down Boylston Street.

  406. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 8:54 am

    The laws of every state are .08 or higher. It’s tied to federal funding.

    And we don’t know what the breathalyzer reading was yet. It’s doubtful that the reading wasn’t available because the machines — whether it’s a Datamaster or a Draeger or whatever — print out the breath test results after the suspect blows into the machine. I think most agencies do not release the results, though. So it’s possible the results were a .03 (although doubtful because he probably wouldn’t be charged) and possible the results were a .30.

    One more thing. He wasn’t given “another” Breathalyzer at the station. The preliminary breath test result is usually an Alcosensor which is a handheld device the police can use on the scene to detect the presence of alcohol in a person’s system. That also provides a result but it’s too inaccurate to be admissible in court. The Breathalyzer at the station is the machine that provides an admissible result if done correctly.

  407. Chad Sexington October 19th, 2008 at 8:55 am

    Road soda!

  408. Alcoholics Unanimous October 19th, 2008 at 8:56 am

    Joba Chamberlain is one guy we don’t want to see. Straighten it out big fella. Big boozers are losers.

  409. Jim in CT October 19th, 2008 at 9:02 am

    You watch.
    The judge will be a Sox or Royals fan who lost a loved one to a drunk driver.
    6 months jail time – March-August. Season flushed. But he’ll get lots of time to do his gym workouts.

    Meanwhile, A-Rod and Jeter are saying, “Dude, cruising in LINCOLN? You’re a Yankee, you can do way better than that.”

  410. Kill.Schill(ing) October 19th, 2008 at 9:04 am

    It’s no longer .10 BAC in some states, Drew? Are you sure about that? The last time I defended a DUI in Jersey, it was still .10, but that was 8 or 9 years ago.

    Good point, his breathlyzer might have registered a higher result. I just prefer to counsel clemency before we have all the facts and hang the kid.

  411. soxlurker October 19th, 2008 at 9:06 am

    … Well, we all have different ways to celebrate a Sox win. Me? I had my 3rd beer and walked home.

  412. pauly October 19th, 2008 at 9:09 am

    It is reassuring to know, practically everyone on this board is a perfect human being.

    In fact I haven’t seen a group of people this perfect, since Jesus addressed a large group of pharisees at the synagouge, a while back.

    It’s called being, Holier Than Thou. And it’s more disgusting than Jobas act.

  413. Kill.Schill(ing) October 19th, 2008 at 9:13 am

    yo pauly, yo. Yo check out my post while I walk Butkus.

    I don’t claim moral purity, ya know.

    You should a seen me last night, I did good against Spider Rico.

  414. Littering And October 19th, 2008 at 9:15 am

    thankfully the cops didn’t tase him

  415. Central CT Yankee October 19th, 2008 at 9:17 am

    NEBRASKA DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE (DUI) LAW

    (If convicted of DUI in Nebraska the following penalties will apply:)
    Revised July 26, 2006

    Class W Misdemeanor

    First Offense – 28-106 & 60-6,197.03 (1)

    Maximum: 60 days in jail

    6-month license revocation

    $500 fine

    Mandatory Minimum: 7 days in jail

    6-month license revocation

    $400 fine

  416. Doris From Rego Park October 19th, 2008 at 9:17 am

    After reading that article about Joba’s meth-head mother, it appears the apple doesnt fall too far from the tree

  417. pat October 19th, 2008 at 9:29 am

    Doris

    You are taking a huge leap in calling a DUI charge a case of addiction. Why not let a few facts come to light before you take that leap.

  418. SamVa October 19th, 2008 at 10:11 am

    he lives in Nebraska… I mean give the kid some credit.. He should have 20 DUI’s by now.. Think about all of the things to do there.. Poor Joba… Driving drunk was stupid.. but he lives in one of the most boring states in the country.. and everyone drinks and makes mistakes.. don’t let this change your opinion about him. He’s still an awesome guy!

  419. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story October 19th, 2008 at 10:29 am

    Kill Schill: No one cares that Joba was drinking.

    It’s that he got behind the wheel after doing so that bothers people.

  420. Kevin October 19th, 2008 at 10:35 am

    sox win game six and now Joba.
    unreal

  421. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story October 19th, 2008 at 10:41 am

    Heh. Some of you post like the Giants didn’t, in fact, win the Super Bowl in 2008.

    In baseball terms, it’s not been tremendously fun, but we’ve had much, much worse years. I wouldn’t quite call this the year from Hell just yet.

  422. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! October 19th, 2008 at 10:44 am

    Deep breaths people.

  423. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 10:54 am

    States had until 2004 to change their DWI laws to .08 and higher. After that, they would begin to lose 2% every year in federal highway construction funds for failing to have a .08 DWI law, up until a total of 8% decrease in funds. It is my understanding that every state has such a limit now. 8% is a lot to lose.

  424. Doreen October 19th, 2008 at 10:55 am

    Rebecca -

    Certainly not hell, but sure seems like a sort of pergatory with so many dramas that have occurred dating back to ARod’s WS opt-out. :)

  425. MJR (Shut Up Steve Phillips) October 19th, 2008 at 10:55 am

    I’m more concerned about the Yankees being interested in Lowe than this bit of news.

    Rays 6-2 tonight. ;)

  426. Kill.Schill(ing) October 19th, 2008 at 11:09 am

    i know Rebecca, and I’m asking people to show a little magnanimity and to recall their own youthful transgression before they unleash a torrent of moral indignation and self-righteous censure.

    I’m hardly condoning drinking and driving, but I dare say many of us having gotten behind the wheel after having a few drinks, enough even to exceed the legal limit.

    He’s 22, perhaps not as mature a 22 as you are, but let’s keep that in perspective.

    I know you’re an avid reader Rebecca, so here’s a quote for you.

    “In short, Walter lacked every gleaming virtue demonstrated daily by the incorruptible test pilot…and yet by comparison, Walter’s vulgarity is something great and Lindbergh’s decorum is hideous”

  427. Jeff October 19th, 2008 at 11:47 am

    Boston is gonna win the WS again and our future ace is in jail.

  428. george October 19th, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    Rebecca’s right – 1979 was a Yankee year from hell, 1989 was a year from hell, 1990 was a year from hell.

    2008 – well, it was painful quite often – Wang’s freak injury being the most painful – and it ended up being a 3rd-place team, but the team was in it ’til almost the end. As a fan, it was entertaining. 1979/1989/1989 were not entertaining.

  429. joe "moses" torre October 19th, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    maybe they’ll discover that the pig’s radar gun is as juiced as the one at YS and throw out the case on a technicality :)

  430. Tseng October 19th, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    This unfortunately happens too much to people for me to be surprised. Luckily for him he’s a pro athlete and he’s going to make a ton of money but for regular folks, DUI’s stay on your record forever. In South Carolina they recently passed a law so you can refuse to take any alcohol test and merely lose your license for 6 months instead of taking a DUI.

  431. Jesse October 19th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    selfish move he could of seriously hurt someones family member

  432. lil' m October 19th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    “Now, there’s a client I’d love to defend: the team that puts their foot on the Red Sox neck and breaks it this time.”

    YES. Ironically, the one team that has played Boston tough just about every series is the Yankees, even in this washout of a season. The Yankees are extremely familiar with the Red Sox and are not intimidated by them (and vice versa, of course). Maybe it’s a combination of having survived the realization of their greatest fears (October 2004) and playing Boston 18 or 19 times a year, not including the postseason. If the Yankees make the necessary moves to shore up their starting rotation, improve defense and revitalize their offense, they will be a formidable contender. This will make for a lot of exciting baseball, a scary-good AL East, and a Yankees team that will never let up for air any opponent that it knocks to the canvas.

    Re the topic of this thread: What a pity. Thank God no one was injured or killed. IMHO, the best and only thing Joba can do is face the consequences with honesty and contrition. And also get whatever help he needs to address any personal issues involved. Josh Hamilton’s example comes to mind as a good way to address this kind of fall publicly – with candor, humility, and sincerity. How it is received by the public or treated in the press can’t be the concern, only accepting responsibility and doing the right thing. (Of course there is a presumption of innocence and a right to due process.) Facing the music, being up front, and getting one’s act together by any means necessary is a must for avoiding the downward spiral, satisfying the interests of justice, and regaining trust and goodwill. This also involves making amends to any others affected by one’s actions (family, friends, employers).

  433. Drew October 19th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    You can always refuse to take a alcohol test and usually the consequences are an extended license revocation. Not just in South Carolina.

    What are the police going to do? Force you to wrap your lips around the straw and make you give a good breath sample?

  434. Brent October 19th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    Come on, all indians have problems with alcohol.

  435. ken October 23rd, 2008 at 6:49 am

    he should be punishes like everyone else. not differently because of who he is. he is supposed to be a roll model. make him do community service and if jail time is the law, make him do it

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    Chamberlain was taken to the Cornhusker Place Detox and booked on charges of driving under the influence, having an open container of alcohol and speeding.
    =============================
    brian
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    Brent, you racist! Telling everyone all Indians have a prob with alcohol!

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