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Chamberlain has Dec. court date

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Oct 20, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

This from the AP:

New York Yankees pitcher Joba Chamberlain is to appear in court Dec. 17 for his arrest on suspicion of drunken driving.

His blood-alcohol content level was 0.134 at the time of his arrest; the legal limit in Nebraska is 0.08.

The 23-year-old pitcher was cited early Saturday on suspicion of driving under the influence, speeding and having an open container of alcohol in his vehicle. Lancaster County Chief Deputy Attorney Joe Kelly said Monday his office has not decided on formal charges.

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236 Responses to “Chamberlain has Dec. court date”

  1. #9 October 20th, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    Ah – a fresh new post…

  2. Christina October 20th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    real smart joba.

  3. Don Capone October 20th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    Man, after what Leyritz did last year, Joba should know better. I’m glad no one got hurt.

  4. YANKS IN 2010 October 20th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    wow that’s awesome…

    To those who cautioned we should have given him the benefit of the doubt and spent a day defining the difference between a DUI & a DWI…the boys BAC was almost TWICE the legal limit!

    and he is a big boy…how utterly disappointing…

    When I heard it yesterday morning…I thought I was going to be sick

  5. vinny-b October 20th, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    “bru
    October 20th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
    i would much rather have pitching than cano. Cano might be too much to give up but at least try with a package not including Hughes”

    you need to stop. If Cashman had traded Cano for Garza last year, you would’ve burned his Connecticut house to the ground.

    I understand the point regarding, being creative (in trades), but the Garza trade was not a fit for NYY. They didn’t have position players to trade who were MLB ready (and still don’t). At least be honest.

  6. jay destro October 20th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    zillo must be raging

  7. Bobby October 20th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    Jesus .134?!?!?!?!

    What a stupid thing to do. There’s no excusing something like this. Hopefully he learns is all I can say but as someone who has had a family friend lose a child to drunk driving, I’ve lost a lot of respect for the guy.

  8. Kill.Schill(ing) October 20th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    Hey, anyone like Andruw Jones for CF for one year before Austin Jackson blooms?

    Andruw Jones has one year remaining on his contract at $18 million. If the Dodgers agree to subsidize one-half of the contract, I’d endorse acquiring him. He can still play CF with the best of them. And perhaps, he could have a bounce-back year at the dish.

  9. Ed - looking forward to 2009 October 20th, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    someone need to tell these kids, too much Xbox will make you go blind.

    LOL, Vinny -

    too much PS3 will make you go crazy thinking its a reality. LOL hahahas.

  10. mel October 20th, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    Whoa. I don’t know much about BAL, but that seems pretty high.

    Trisha, maybe you heard this story. There was a guy in RI (?) whose BAL was a few ticks below .500. He lived to tell the story, but they had to medically induce a coma to stabilize him.

    Not good, Joba. Can he serve his 7 days now, so that it doesn’t interfere with his holidays and throwing program. :)

  11. gianthinker October 20th, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    No one should condone this behavior but Joba is a young guy and this stuff happens. You hope it doesn’t but it happens more than most know. Hopefully this will open up his eyes about his status and he’ll get a driver or something so this doesn’t happen again. And this doesn’t mean he’s an alcoholic either. This could have been a one night thing and he got caught. Again, not condoning his actions but things happen and such is life. Hopefully he learns and moves on and this is not a foreshadowing of things to come.

  12. #9 October 20th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    “Can he serve his 7 days now…”

    Since it’s a first offense – he’ll probably have to do community service.

  13. frits October 20th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    0.134? good lord. how many drinks would that be for a dude his size?

  14. Ed - looking forward to 2009 October 20th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Not good, Joba. Can he serve his 7 days now, so that it doesn’t interfere with his holidays and throwing program.

    Mel -

    you mean he can’t continue his throwing program while spending the week in jail? lol :)

  15. Patrick October 20th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Kill.Schill,

    No way to Jones. Not only has he lost all ability to hit, he’s coming off pretty significant injuries. Maybe Jones will bounce back but I don’t want to take that chance. Even before 2007 he wasn’t all that good. He’s basically Adam Dunn with less walks. Frankly, I’d rather have Melky or Gardner in CF.

  16. mel October 20th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    #9,

    Someone pulled up the Nebraska law. 7 days mandatory sentence. Minimum.

  17. trisha - DAVID SLEW THE FAUX-GOLIATH! October 20th, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    from below:

    trisha – DAVID SLEW THE FAUX-GOLIATH!
    October 20th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
    Ed, I am truly happy today! :D

    It appears a lot of posters know the feeling of having a wonderful sense of peace once the Sux disappear.

    I can tell you that living in Sux territory, a successful season is always defined in terms of Sux failure as much as Yankee success!

    :lol:

  18. jennifer October 20th, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    Yeah lets pay 9 million for a .156 hitter!!!

  19. mel October 20th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Ed,

    LOL. I think they need a special prison for athletes.

    Clemens, Bonds, Leyritz, Joba.

    Michael Vick and Pacman Jones throwing on the side.

  20. Ed - looking forward to 2009 October 20th, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    (from the previous thread)

    Trisha -

    I completely understand. My friends from Florida spammed my cell/myspace/IM once the Rays won the LCS. I replied back “don’t get too happy yet, watch they will fall back to earth next season”. :evil: lol

  21. pat October 20th, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    .134?

    That’s equivalent to about 8 beers in an hour for a 240 lb. guy.

  22. #9 October 20th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    “7 days mandatory sentence. Minimum.”

    Ouch… guess I can cross Nebraska off the road trip I planned next summer.

  23. mel October 20th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    That way, the athletes can stay in game shape. Getting ready for their big comebacks.

    And relax, people, that’s a joke. One isn’t like the others.

  24. Joe from Long Island October 20th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Kill-Schill – creative idea about Andruw Jones, but, from what I’ve read, his D has really gone downhill last few years. I could be wrong, of course, but….

  25. frits October 20th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Pat – good lord.

  26. mel October 20th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    pat,

    Did you have that on the top of your head, or is there some sort of calculator?

    They found an open container. How many empties in the car? How many were thrown out the window?

  27. trisha - DAVID SLEW THE FAUX-GOLIATH! October 20th, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    Hey jen – thanks for getting the ball in motion yesterday by mentioning Lester’s no hitter! I read that when I got home and noticed you were the only one (unless one other person said something) who did it. And I think to myself: are the others really so unaware??????

    :D

    About the Garza-Cano conversation. This may have already been said (hitting and running on my lunch hour) but there is never a way to know if a pitcher who has gone to another team and excelled would have done so unto the bright spotlight of the Bronx. Plus, it seems to me that our young pitchers are not allowed to develop but rather their mechanics are screwed with. Correct me if I’m wrong.

  28. Matt October 20th, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    This is extrememly disappointing. Joba was one of my fav guys on the team and he seemed to have his head on straight. I am sure he likes to go out and have fun, and who doesnt, and there is nothing wrong with going out and having a couple drinks or even getting drunk. But getting behind the wheel is just stupid. He is lucky he didnt hurt or kill anyone else. This guy has everything going for him and the last thing he needs is an injury bc he was driving drunk. The guy could afford a cab or any other alternative to driving. Look at that Cardinal pitcher a few years ago. This is a really sad story.

    This just shows how great Derek Jeter is, he has everything going for him and he stays out of trouble. Hopefully

  29. #9 October 20th, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    “That’s equivalent to about 8 beers in an hour for a 240 lb. guy.”

    Ah – reminds me of my college days… good times…

  30. DMan October 20th, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    Those are the requirements if formal charges are brought…

    In most states the DA can lessen the charges down to something that might involve fines, probation, commuinty service, etc.

    But what do I know about how the law works in Nebraska?

  31. Matt October 20th, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    Hopefully joba learns from all this and wont ever have a repeat. He has too many people looking upto him to let this happen again.

  32. mel October 20th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Well, at least he wasn’t doing beer bongs with chicks in a hot tub.

    Ugh. .134? You can’t explain that away.

  33. RSM October 20th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    Disappointed in Joba. Thank God nobody was hurt. Hope he learns his lesson.

    As for Jones. Are you kdding? The last thing this team needs is another ex-super star past his usefulness.

  34. E-Man October 20th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    wow, it’s very possible Joba could be in Jail during Christmas.

  35. Trevor October 20th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    Anyone know what happened to Matt DeSalvo?

  36. Skinnyhead October 20th, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    Joba’s BAC was higher than Andruw Jones’ BA last season.

  37. bigjf October 20th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    According to Newsday, it’s 7 days with a fine or probation and a fine. I’m sure Joba will get probation.

    Still, that’s very disappointing to hear. And if you’re dumb enough at any age to have an open container in the vehicle, couldn’t you at least not be dumb enough to get pulled over for speeding? Just stupid and senseless on all accounts.

  38. mel October 20th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    E-Man,

    Nah. Not so soon. This is just a formal hearing. The court systems move slower than tectonic plates.

    But like your brother, Dman, says probably plead no contest and cut a deal.

  39. E-Man October 20th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    Trevor, he’s somewhere in the braves organization

  40. Ed - looking forward to 2009 October 20th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    Ugh. .134? You can’t explain that away.

    Mel -

    at least he kept his WHIP under 1.5. lol

  41. pat October 20th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    mel

    There’s a chart. The only open containers in my car these days are juice boxes. :smile:

    http://www.ou.edu/oupd/bac.htm

  42. DMan October 20th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    I think someone may have mentioned this in an earlier post…

    Alcoholism is a major problem for a lot of native american tribes and reservations. This would be something that Joba has grown up around.

    Stupid, of course, but it’s something that he may have grown about around and saw as socially acceptable.

  43. mel October 20th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    pat,

    :P

  44. #9 October 20th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    Don’t drink and drive.

    Guzzle at red lights.

  45. Jeremy October 20th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    People are still discussing Cano for Garza? Only on this blog. That trade would have been monumentally stupid.

    Look at Cano’s and Garza’s seasons in 2006-2007. Why would anyone think that Garza could net Cano?

    I’d bet that 99% of readers of this blog had no idea who Garza was until this season. (I’m one of them.) Garza was not some rising star.

  46. E-Man October 20th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    Unless of course, the Judge wants to make an example.

    or isn’t a Yankees fan.

    7 days is minimum.. 60 days is maximum.

  47. jennifer October 20th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    yankees and cowboys form partnership!!

    http://www.legendshm.com/index-4.html

  48. bigjf October 20th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    There’s also a 60-day license revocation.

  49. trisha - DAVID SLEW THE FAUX-GOLIATH! October 20th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    Did anyone else think about the possibility that Joba was processing the same thing we’ve been processing but only on a much more personal level? That the despised Sux had started to turn things around and that Thursday’s game winning run was scored by PUKELIS???? :D

    Actually not to make light but it did cross my mind that Yankee players are much more affected by their not being in the postseason than we are, and they are certainly more affected by the fact that the Sux were trying to make a go of it and appeared (to all but me I guess) to be on their way to taking the ALCS. I just wondered if Joba was drowning his sorrows after Thursday’s 8-7 loss. The fact that it was Friday night has little relevance. Upset is upset. For all we know he could have tied one on on Thursday night too.

    Just a thought. Certainly not condoning what happened.)

    (Oh by the way, Sux injuries are being mentioned by the local sportswriter apologists.)

  50. DMan October 20th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    I’d be surpirzed if he got jail time.

    Maybe he’d get time served along with fines, probation, commnunity service, etc (he did spend the night in jail didn’t he?)

  51. FergsKU October 20th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    I was out and drank some beers with Joba about a month ago. Kind of weird.

  52. Bryan (Yankees fan) October 20th, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    I woke up today in Boston to a great day with a crispness in the air lots of sunshine and feeling 110%

    What a great day

    All the faux Sox fans have put their pink shirts and hats at the back of their closet

    the T this morning had a refreshing silence

  53. jake October 20th, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    #9
    October 20th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
    “7 days mandatory sentence. Minimum.”

    Ouch… guess I can cross Nebraska off the road trip I planned next summer.’

    Good thinking #9! Drive in states that are more lenient to drunk drivers and maybe you will have a close encounter with one.

  54. mel October 20th, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    DMan,

    Alcoholism among Native Americans has always been a fascinating topic for me from a historical sense in that the white man plied them with liquor from early contact.

    It’s an interesting case study where you saw generation after generation of alcoholics in one contained culture.

    With newfound wealth via the casinos, community leaders and standouts are fighting hard to fight that stereotype. It really bothers them.

    So from that standpoint, Joba’s lack of judgement over the weekend is disappointing because it only helps perpetuate the stereotype.

    As a proud Native American, I’m sure he’ll be sorry about that. And poor Harlan, this must be killing him as well.

  55. Bryan (Yankees fan) October 20th, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    Trisha-

    Oritz brought the injury issue last night during his interview saying:

    “We had to overcome a lot this year. With injuries and other things.”

    I mean not like injuries are part of the game and all your key players were healthy during the playoff run but lets not talk about facts

  56. Vader October 20th, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    60 days may be a good thing…you ever see what some of those guys look like in jail…all they do is work out.

  57. Bryan (Yankees fan) October 20th, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    *brought up

    Also long live the curse of Manny!

  58. blimpie October 20th, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    DeSalvo is a free agent now I believe. He was with the Braves.

  59. Bronx Jeers October 20th, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    Didn’t he get stopped for speeding? That’s just plain old dumb. Everyone knows you don’t speed when you’re driving drunk!

    I wonder what his open container was. in NY they have to state what is was on the summons or it gets thrown out. I hope it wasn’t something girly like a bottle of Malibu or something.

  60. Brent October 20th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    Hey, anyone like Andruw Jones for CF for one year before Austin Jackson blooms?

    The Yankees already have a logjam in the OF. You want to trade (not sign, but TRADE) for an aging, overpaid player who hit .158 in 2008 making 18 million dollars? (even if the dodgers took a hit on the salary, what would be acceptable? 10 million? 5?)

    I wouldn’t touch Andruw Jones with a 50 foot pole.

  61. mel October 20th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    Did we all assume it was beer? With that kind of BAC, hards is a definite possibility.

  62. AlexT October 20th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    I don’t think Joba will serve time – but will get a significant amount of community service and fines.

    Oh, and he’ll probably be required to hire a driver when we goes out.

    I mean come on, he’s not “rich” but he makes over 400,000 a year. Get a damn cab!

  63. Brent October 20th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    Oritz brought the injury issue last night during his interview saying:

    “We had to overcome a lot this year. With injuries and other things.”

    I mean not like injuries are part of the game and all your key players were healthy during the playoff run but lets not talk about facts

    JD Drew, Beckett, and Mike Lowell were all hurt during the playoffs. Try and tell me one of them isn’t a key player.

  64. saucY October 20th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    bad joba :|

    i’d be surprised if he really does jail time though…

  65. ray (sox fan) October 20th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    “I mean not like injuries are part of the game and all your key players were healthy during the playoff run but lets not talk about facts”

    bryan, tampa bay fairly beat the sox and I won’t make any excuses. With that being said you are the one ignoring the facts. Last year’s WS mvp Mike Lowell wasn’t even on the roster for this series so your statement is obviously inaccurate.

  66. Brandon (TEIX IS NOT WORTH IT, GET CC !)..."Don't trade Robi !" October 20th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    you need to stop. If Cashman had traded Cano for Garza last year, you would’ve burned his Connecticut house to the ground.

    Yup.

    Hey, anyone like Andruw Jones for CF for one year before Austin Jackson blooms?

    The beatwriter for the Dodgers nicknamed him Tubbo to his face. Andrew Jones quit playing 2 yrs. ago he just continues to get paid for quitting.

  67. Yanksgal07 October 20th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    Who are these guys?? …

    Games 36, 8-18 record, over 5.00 ERA, 20 HR, 85 BB
    Games 45 (started 9), 3-3 record, over 5.00 ERA, 17 HR, 70 BB
    Games 62, 17-26 record, over 5.00 ERA, 29 HR, 199 BB

    The above are in order, Greg Maddux, Johan Santana & Randy Johnson.

    Phil Hughes has been in a total of 21 games for the Yankees so maybe the “impatient” Yankee fans who want it NOW could show a little more tolerance with younger players. Scouts had Phil as the 1 or 2 top prospect in the minors. There is something there and just maybe the scouts are slightly more knowledgable than the average fan and know it needs time to develop. If he had it …he didn’t lose it…he just has to find it again.

    Go Yankees 2009 !!!!

  68. Yanksgal07 October 20th, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    The above were their first games in the majors …

  69. pat October 20th, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    mel

    12 ounce beer = 1 mixed drink = 1/2 oz. shot roughly on the chart I looked at.

  70. For $13 I'll be a Macadamia Nut October 20th, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    Drew wasn’t playing like he was impaired in any way.

  71. Brandon (TEIX IS NOT WORTH IT, GET CC !)..."Don't trade Robi !" October 20th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    How about that the Rays win and fat boy wants to talk football ? If the Red Sox had won he’d start the show w/ Red Sox Dynasty in the making and Jets fans wouldn’t get one in until 4 PM.

  72. Brent October 20th, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    Drew wasn’t playing like he was impaired in any way.

    ALDS against the Angels..the ball that Vladimir Guerrero hit towards JD Drew that made him half-heartedly lumber towards the right-field wall..and it was also mentioned a bunch of times (along with Beckett and Lowell)

  73. mel October 20th, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    Of course injuries are part of the equation.

    But nobody sympathized with us, so too bad for them.

  74. Bryan (Yankees fan) October 20th, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    Did JD Drew and Beckett play and contribute?

    Maybe I must have missed something

    Mike Lowell was hurt and didn’t play is an important player but every team has injuries at this time of year

    Carl Crawford didn’t play for over a month, Evan Longoria brought his wrist and missed time, Troy Percival wasn’t on the team, Baldelli can’t play every day

    Everyone has injuries

  75. S.o.S.27(Ortiz to Manny. Please comeback!!) October 20th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    saucy,
    In the preseason i mentioned that the rays fans went out and bought preseason champs t shirts. We all laughed at it. Watching some of the game yesterday(just because im a A.B.B. fan anyone but boston). I saw a very loaded team. Young, deep and very talented. So now they can go out and get their A.L. champs jersey. Possibly a w.s. one. I see us next year having to worry more about the young Rays than the beat up Sox. Anyone agree with this?

  76. Dan October 20th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    I hope he learns from this. I’ve heard stories of his drinking habits in Hoboken bars. Let’s hope the Yankees give him a stern talking to. This is not the kind of mistake someone can make twice.

    Good think he did not hurt anyone, or himself.

  77. ray (sox fan) October 20th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    bryan,
    yes, injuries are part of the game.

    but that isn’t what you said in your earlier post, you said something along the lines that boston’s players were all healthy and I am just saying that is not the case.

  78. Vrsce October 20th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    Mel,
    Why would Clemens go to prison.
    He has not been charged with anything, unlike the others on your list.
    Perhaps you should go for loose talk.

    Disgusting to suggest that someone be jailed just because you do not like their conduct.

  79. trisha - DAVID SLEW THE FAUX-GOLIATH! October 20th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    Bryan, the thing that drives me crazy is that every damned Sux fan would quickly remind everyone that injuries are part of a season, whenever the Yanks failed in the postseason and had had major injuries.

    So srew em. Yankee players, by the way, NEVER bring up injuries. Good job loser Big Crappy.

    They will always be a second-rate organization.

  80. Brent October 20th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    Did JD Drew and Beckett play and contribute?

    Maybe I must have missed something

    Beckett pitched very well in game 6, and JD Drew hit a home run in the massive comeback in game 5 as well as having the game-winning hit in game 5 over gabe gross’ head. They were both very important to the red sox.

  81. saucY October 20th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    sos, i remember the pre-season champs t-shirts. and the maddon “tough all spring” slogan that we gave him…

  82. S.o.S.27(Ortiz to Manny. Please comeback!!) October 20th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Why are you all talking about injuries? If all teams were healthy this year than Boston would be watching the playoffs and we would have gotten in. Its part of the game. Does it make a difference. Yes. But they wont have an asterisk next to our name that says “missed playoffs for the first time in 14 year due to injury. So the streak doesnt really end.”. And same goes for the Sox getting ousted”due to injuries. They get a chance to repeat next year”.

  83. ray (sox fan) October 20th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    “So srew em. Yankee players, by the way, NEVER bring up injuries.”

    trisha, if you are so sure of yourself why don’t you agree to give me 20 dollars for every time I can document that Yankee players talked about injuries because they “NEVER” talk about injuries?

  84. Bryan (Yankees fan) October 20th, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    Brent

    Beckett was hurt he couldn’t have pitched well and Nancy Drew didn’t get any hits he was too hurt to play

  85. mel October 20th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    Vrsce,

    LOL @ you. You haven’t read what I’ve written about Clemens hear? I give him a lot of breaks and haven’t condemned like a lot of people.

    It was a joke. And the fact remains that Clemens has a lot of explaining to do. And I don’t think Barry Bonds deserves to go to jail, either. Or Pac-man Jones. Where’s all the indignity for those guys?

    It was a joke. Jeez.

  86. mel October 20th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    *here.

    And I can’t believe you’re taking this so seriously when I posted a few minutes after to not get upset because it was a joke.

    The Sox lost, it’s a good day. Enjoy it. :)

  87. trisha - DAVID SLEW THE FAUX-GOLIATH! October 20th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    “trisha, if you are so sure of yourself why don’t you agree to give me 20 dollars for every time I can document that Yankee players talked about injuries because they “NEVER” talk about injuries?”

    You got it. Find all the Yankee players who made excuses about injuries when they failed in the postseason, the way that tub of lard Ortiz did last night, and you’ll get $20 for each one.

  88. bru October 20th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    vinny-b
    October 20th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
    “bru
    October 20th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
    i would much rather have pitching than cano. Cano might be too much to give up but at least try with a package not including Hughes”

    you need to stop. If Cashman had traded Cano for Garza last year, you would’ve burned his Connecticut house to the ground.

    I understand the point regarding, being creative (in trades), but the Garza trade was not a fit for NYY. They didn’t have position players to trade who were MLB ready (and still don’t). At least be honest
    ————————————————————

    stop acting like you know what gm’s in baseball know or what it takes to get a deal done because you and i know nothing.we sit here and type contradicting things all the time.

    i don’t know what is the right thing for the yankees.
    i just know we need pitching,a centerfielder,firstbaseman.
    wether gardner plays center,miranda plays first or someone i don’t know.sign a quick fix for center or first while keeping the kids?,signing 3 fa pitchers?
    is fa alone enough for now?,do we tade hughes,cano?
    i guess it depends on what other teams wan’t and are willing to give up,who and how discussions are initiated.

    i guess the yankees can trade cano for pitching and use hughes for a first baseman or centerfielder while signing a few fa pitchers.

    trading cano replaces hughes and trading hughes fixes centerfield or first base.

    i would love a cano for billingsley,hughes for mclouth,gonzalez or another first baseman or centerfielder but prospects will need to be added with hughes to land them..

    hughes alone will not get you gonzalez.maybe hughes,kennedy get you mclouth.

  89. S.o.S.27(Ortiz to Manny. Please comeback!!) October 20th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Question for all. It looks like Peavy is a no go and C.C. might not be a catch. Do we go after an Oswalt or go get a Perez,Lowe and a Garland with the money we would have spent? More depth looks like our only bet. Aces dont grow on trees.
    I still think that Rocco would be worth going after even for an every other game player(insentive based contract).

  90. bru October 20th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    http://twins.scout.com/2/516232.html

    garza was known pretty well by scouts.

    he has great stuff,i always wanted him and knew of him.

    these are the types of trades that the yankees are terrible at.

    they always wait too long to react to a problem instead of recognizing good players before they take off.

    tampa bay built a great team by recognizing good players in the draft and by trading for others.garza,kashmir,upton,price and many others.

    to be successfull you need to get players that turn into superstars before they actually do.it can be done,tampa bay has done that with almost every player on their roster.

  91. bru October 20th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Trevor
    October 20th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
    Anyone know what happened to Matt DeSalvo?
    ————————————————————

    traded to the braves.2 innings pitched/11 hits.

  92. bru October 20th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    7 runs/31.50 era

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