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Hot Stove Mailbag No. 3

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Oct 24, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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The World Series has a day off, so let’s do a mailbag …

Mark writes: Haven’t heard much about Shelley Duncan since the demotion to AAA. Is that it for him? I don’t hear his name mentioned in any future plans the Yanks have. I imagine they’ll look at him come March, but it doesnt seem like he’s part of any future plans. What do you think?

Answer: The fact he was not called up in September seems pretty significant. Duncan is on the 40-man roster now but will be stay there one the Yankees start making moves? Moving to another organization might be his best chance to return to the majors.

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NYCity425 writes: I wanted to get your opinion on Andrew Brackman. Where do you see him fitting in with the Yankees plans going forward?

Answer: I have yet to watch him pitch in person. He was limited to playing catch in spring training. He’s a big dude with surprising athleticism and scouts seem impressed with the action on his pitches. But Brackman is very inexperienced as a pitcher and it could take another year or two before he’s ready for the majors. Since 2005, he has pitched fewer than 200 innings in competition. That encompasses his entire career at N.C. State, summer ball, a brief stint with Team USA in 2006 and his time in Hawaii this month. He has a lot to learn.

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Mike writes: Having watched the Phillies a lot this year, I’ve become a big fan of Shane Victorino. He reminds me of the type of role player that the great Yankees teams of the mid 90′s through 2001 had (like a Scott Brosius, Paul O’Neill, etc.). I believe his contract is up this year, and think he would be a great fit on the Yankees as a leadoff hitter with some speed that can play any OF position, but also bring a number of intangibles to the clubhouse. Any thoughts or rumors as to if the Yankees could or will try and go get him?

Answer: Victorino is arbitration eligible but not a free agent. The Phillies would gave to non-tender him to make him a free agent and there is no chance of that. I agree with you that he would help the Yankees. But the Phillies aren’t about to give him up.

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Dionisio writes: What about the Yankees signing Mark Prior to a $1 million deal with incentives like San Diego did last year? There’s not much to lose. I mean, if we picked Eric Milton and Victor Zambrano last season, why not Prior? If he’s healthy, and can get his stuff back, he’s a frontline starter. The guy got surgery and is playing catch right now, he’ll be ready for spring training. He just needs to make some starts at the minors, to get his stuff and mechanics back. And he’ll be ready.

Answer: The Yankees once drafted Prior, so it would be somehow fitting if they gave him a chance. But given his history, it would be a total gamble. The poor guy seems washed up. Beyond that, I think the Yankees need to draft and develop starters, not rummage through the dumpster for injury cases.

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Ralph writes: What’s up with all the spitting by ballplayers in the dugout and on the field? Do they find the need to spit in the locker room or while they are at home? Do they spit while you are interviewing them? I assume not, so why do they find it necessary to spit constantly during a game? My daughter is a Middle School PE teacher. Boys are spitting during class because they think that you are supposed to do that when playing ball.

Answer: Most players dip tobacco or chew gum or sunflower seeds during games. It’s part of the game and when you use dip or seeds, you spit. I’ve had plenty of guys spit while being interviewed, usually into a cup. Some guys do it all year long. I used to dip when I was in college and liked it. But it came down to dip or the lovely Jill and she won out. I never picked it up again.

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Ira writes: I hope the Yankees will not trade Phil Hughes and give him a chance to grow such as Jon Lester and Matt Garza.

Answer: What team are you a fan of, Ira? Clearly it’s not the Yankees. Because most fans I hear from have given up on Hughes because he’s 22 and hasn’t won the Cy Young yet. Patience has never been a virtue of the Yankees or their fans. I hope that changes with Phil because I believe he has a chance to be a top-of-the-rotation starter for a championship team.

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Rob writes: If the Yankees sign Sabathia and Mike Mussina comes back, what would the Yankees interest be in signing Oliver Perez? He is young, a lefty, and would not cost them that much. He could be a fifth/insurance starter and throw him in the bullpen.

Answer: Forget Mussina, he’s almost certain to retire. Perez also is represented by Scott Boras, so forget the idea of his not costing too much. And why would a guy who made 34 starts in 2008 want to become a part-time starter in 2009? If they sign Perez, it would be for a rotation slot at decent money. I don’t see them doing that because they can do better.

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Cheryl writes: This is a serious question. Should we be worried about the A-Rod and Maddona thing?

Answer: By “we” I assume you mean Yankees fan and not all mankind, Cheryl. You should not be too worried. Thanks to the Yankees inexplicably writing incentives into his contract to hit home runs, Alex has plenty of reason to continue to be a good baseball player. That said, the guy clearly has a need for drama in his life. His inane waffling about which WBC team to play for, the whole “Jeter and I aren’t friends” mess, the World Series opt-out and now his apparent dalliance with a 50-year-old pop star. It’s all a little ridiculous. But based on previous instances, he’ll keep getting on base and driving in runs and that’s really all that matters.

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Thanks for all the letters. Please feel free to e-mail me at any time with Yankees questions and I’ll do by best to answer them. No, I won’t forward your ideas to Brian Cashman. Sorry.

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121 Responses to “Hot Stove Mailbag No. 3”

  1. mel from Taco Bell October 24th, 2008 at 3:45 am

    Jill? Is she still lovely?

    Great mailbag. Can’t wait for all the anti-Pete “Why do you hate A-rod so much? He’s the cornerstone of this franchise. Did you really call him a drama-queen? I can’t believe you called him a drama queen. You’re just a hack writer for a nothing newspaper. You’re a bum.” comments. Not.

    If you’ve got 20 minutes or so, guys, check out the sneak preview of the season premiere of ’30 Rock’.

    Here’s the link: http://www.hulu.com/watch/4048.....ek-do-over

  2. Art Vandelay October 24th, 2008 at 3:46 am

    If Kaballah and Madonna make Alex happy and help him continue to hit 35 HRs and drive in over 100 RBIS for the rest of his Yankee career along with some postseason heroics, then more power to him.

    We should give Phil Franchise a chance. But he needs to win a spot on the rotation, not be guaranteed one.

    We Yankee fans need to remember that Doug Drabek pitched the Pirates into the playoffs in the early 90s, not the Yankees.

    Please, Cash, don’t trade Phil.

  3. mel from Taco Bell October 24th, 2008 at 3:51 am

    Pete,

    One more thing. I was so flabbergasted by the fact that you used to chew, that I forget to add that I’m flabbergasted by what you said about Phil. Really. You’re going out on a limb with such high praise. It’s nice to know that some people in the game haven’t forgotten about Phil’s potential in light of his growing pains.

    Anyway, it was very cool of you to put it out there.

  4. jessica(Let's Go Yankees) October 24th, 2008 at 4:05 am

    I am also one of Yankees fans hope Yankees don’t give up Hughes. I believe he at least will be a great no.3 starting pitcher in the major league.

  5. jessica(Let's Go Yankees) October 24th, 2008 at 4:06 am

    Can I ask one stupid question? Who is Jill?

  6. sevrox October 24th, 2008 at 4:51 am

    Jill is Abe’s hot wife.

    I, for one, am excited about Austin Romine and Jesus Montero manning the catching position and first base respectively. Yanks got some good ‘uns on the rise.

    Hughes will be fine.

    On the “Schizophrenic-and-Anxiety-Ridden Suck-O-Meter,” Yank fans are #3 behind Red Sox and Philly fans.

    Occasionally enjoy seeing the creativity at work on the BostonDirtDogs site – they absolutely BLISTER every aspect of their team’s “demise” this year. Red Sox fans have become what Yank fans were – unreasonably and unrealistically demanding – although, through lack of WS success recently, Yank fans seem to be getting weaned away from that.

  7. The Reviosionist October 24th, 2008 at 7:19 am

    I for one am worrid about the A-Rod Madonna thing. If his eyesight is deteriorating that quickly will he still be able hit?

  8. Mark in Tampa October 24th, 2008 at 7:56 am

    I wasn’t aware that Paul O’Neill was a role player. I guess that is why his number isn’t being retired.

  9. raymagnetic October 24th, 2008 at 8:02 am

    “I wasn’t aware that Paul O’Neill was a role player. I guess that is why his number isn’t being retired.”

    Everybody plays a role. Some just have bigger roles to play than others. ;)

  10. Big Papi October 24th, 2008 at 8:05 am

    NO MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT MADONNA!!!!11!!one

  11. Fredo Corleone October 24th, 2008 at 8:06 am

    “I wasn’t aware that Paul O’Neill was a role player. I guess that is why his number isn’t being retired.”

    Pretty darn big role. Still, I don’t think his number should be retired.

  12. Joseph P. October 24th, 2008 at 8:07 am

    How can Shelley be a minor league free agent? He’s on the 40-man. They can remove him from the 40-man and he could become a free agent under that scenario. Unless I missed the news that he was DFA’d, though, he’ll be with the Yanks until they do so.

  13. Mark in Tampa October 24th, 2008 at 8:13 am

    I think that the assumptions are that Duncan will be removed from the 40-man, although that is probably jumping the gun at this point.

  14. Fredo Corleone October 24th, 2008 at 8:18 am

    “How can Shelley be a minor league free agent?”

    I believe the number of seasons he’s played at the minor league level entitles him to free agency.

  15. Joseph P. October 24th, 2008 at 8:31 am

    But he is on the 40-man roster, therefore ineligible to be a minor league free agent.

  16. Fredo Corleone October 24th, 2008 at 8:35 am

    “But he is on the 40-man roster, therefore ineligible to be a minor league free agent.”

    Just looked up the rules. You are correct.

    As he’s 29 and has clearly topped out as a AAAA player, I assume they’ll take him off it in an effort to preserve some more promising young players from the Rule 5 draft.

  17. Fredo Corleone October 24th, 2008 at 8:42 am

    C-blo???

    SPRINGFIELD, Ill. – A 36-year-old Springfield man is accused of urinating on his roommate’s dog after the woman refused to have sex with him.

    Police say Tim O’Brien was arrested early Thursday morning on tentative charges of criminal damage to property and disorderly conduct related to domestic violence.

    According to police reports, O’Brien was drunk when he argued with the woman. After she resisted his advances the man went to the basement where he urinated on her dog and the floor.

    Police say the argument continued, and when the woman’s sister stood up in defense O’Brien pushed her into a wall. He then allegedly stormed from the home and punched out a window.

  18. Fredo Corleone October 24th, 2008 at 8:49 am

    Sorry folks. Had the wrong screen. Thought I was on another blog. My apologies.

  19. Jeremy October 24th, 2008 at 8:59 am

    I had no idea Brosius and O’Neill were into Dungeons & Dragons.

    I find this “role player” concept intriguing. Could someone break down the rosters of the dynasty teams between role players and non-role players?

  20. Gary October 24th, 2008 at 8:59 am

    40-man roster decisions will have to be made soon in order to create space for free agaent signings and trades.
    Alphabetically, start with Wilson Betemit and Chris Britton.
    Neither fit in 2009 plans.

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....p?c_id=nyy

  21. Mark in Tampa October 24th, 2008 at 9:15 am

    “A 36-year-old Springfield man is accused of urinating on his roommate’s dog after the woman refused to have sex with him.”

    Was that wrong? Was I not supposed to do that? Because if anybody had told me that type of thing was frowned upon, well, it would be nice to know the rules when we started.

  22. Mark in Tampa October 24th, 2008 at 9:20 am

    Jeremy,
    Here is the break-down:

    I believe that all ’96-’01 Yankees are to be considered scrappy, gritty, team-oriented role players; all ’02-present Yankees are to be considered over-paid, soft, weak-minded prima donnas.

  23. Mark Messier October 24th, 2008 at 9:20 am

    I think we should be worried about this Madonna thingy Madonna has had relationships with numerous men (as well as comedianne Sandra Bernhard). Such men include Jose Canseco ; basketball stars Charles Barkley and Dennis Rodman; actors Warren Beatty and Antonio Banderas; as well as hockey player Mark Messier. And after she was through with them, they were washed up. None as bad as Vanilla Ice, oh the humanity.

  24. Jeff October 24th, 2008 at 9:23 am

    What idiot Yankee fan(s) have given up on Hughes already?

    State your names!!!

  25. Jeremy October 24th, 2008 at 9:23 am

    Mark in Tampa,

    You are correct with one exception. Aaron Boone was also a gritty, hustly role-player.

  26. YankeeDiva October 24th, 2008 at 9:32 am

    That said, the guy clearly has a need for drama in his life. His inane waffling about which WBC team to play for, the whole “Jeter and I aren’t friends” mess, the World Series opt-out and now his apparent dalliance with a 50-year-old pop star. It’s all a little ridiculous.

    Pete don’t you mean the MEDIA (and fans) have a need for Arod drama. He’s not the first baseball player to get a divorce and nor is he the first baseball player to date a famous singer/actress. Its not like he’s out parading around with Madonna….there have been very few pictures of them together in public. The MEDIA is driving this storyline. If they didn’t write about it, it would be a non issue…but Arod, Madonna and Arod/Madonna sell papers and its always about the almighty buck….so why people harp on Alex for taking what $$$ is offered to him I’ll never know.

  27. jennifer October 24th, 2008 at 9:33 am

    Fredo

    I was wondering why the heck that was posted here. Funny none the less.

  28. Patrick October 24th, 2008 at 9:34 am

    Yeah I’m not too sure why Mike considers Paul O’neill and Scott Brosius as role players. They were both starters and O’neill especially was very good.

  29. jennifer October 24th, 2008 at 9:35 am

    Mark Messier

    This should be a warning to us ladies, stay away, far away from Alex. Lord only knows what you could catch just sitting next to him. :lol:

  30. Pauly October 24th, 2008 at 9:40 am

    Yankee Diva:

    Because Arod doesn’t hit when it matters.

    He continually defines the word choke.

    Otherwise, fans wouldn’t really care.

  31. jennifer October 24th, 2008 at 9:44 am

    Pauly

    Missed the entire 2007 season huh?

  32. Time to "Go John Galt" October 24th, 2008 at 9:51 am

    Jennifer, when it comes to A-Rod, the haters will ALWAYS ignore what he actually does and define him by what they want.

  33. Vrsce October 24th, 2008 at 9:52 am

    Pauly

    Arod will be a Yankee for nine more seasons, he has won 2 MVP awards as a Yankee and he will probably end up as the all time HR king.
    Yet somehow he does not meet your approval so you snivel and whine about him. Good for you,I am sure that you will be wimpishly moaning in your menopausal way for the rest of Arod’s time as a Yankee. We all look forward to it.

  34. Tom October 24th, 2008 at 9:55 am

    Can somebody please define “role player”.

    Paul O’neill was a 5 time allstar and 5 time world series winner. He won a batting title.

    Scott Brosius was a gold glove gold glove caliber third baseman who played on one All-star team.

    The 1998 Yankees didn’t win 120+ games with a roster filled with role-players.

  35. pat October 24th, 2008 at 9:58 am

    The disparity in thinking here shouldn’t amaze me but sometimes it still does. Some want to go into full youth mode and banish all the veterans. Some think all the kids stink and the Yankees need to spend, spend, spend on veterans. Everything in moderation seems to work in life and that balance is probably a good approach in building a baseball team too.

    The difference between other teams young ones and the Yankees is patience. Why expect young ones to be the difference makers until they actually show they can make a difference? Calling a 21 year old the Franchise, expecting an Ace at 22 or pencilling someone in for 15 wins before he even has 1 is just setting a player up to disappoint.

    Too many view some of the 90′s Yankees through ring-colored glasses. They should be applauded for the big moments and the contributions to championships won but if this blog was around then, many of the players who now have folk hero status would be getting killed on a daily basis here.

    The spitting has gotten to a gross level. While dippers need to spit to avoid throwing up, seems like most players have quit dipping but haven’t quit spitting. I’ve been known to enjoy an occasional piece of double bubble but have never felt the need to spit while chewing it.

    While Alex does have his high drama moments, much of it is manufactured. For those old enough to remember, it seems like his every move and comment is treated like the old EF Hutton commercials. The Yankees have survived high profile divorces, relationships and wife/family swapping of teammates in the past. Aside from the fact that I’ve never even seen an unphotoshopped pic of the 2 of them together, if Madonna can help him stop chasing outside breaking balls and be quicker to an inside pitch, I’ll help plan the wedding.

  36. Patrick October 24th, 2008 at 10:07 am

    A little Mets news this morning. The NY Post is reporting that the Mets plan on targeting Brian Fuentes and Derek Lowe. I’m not too sure why they would go after Fuentes when K-rod is on the market. Derek Lowe would be a good sign for them if only because he gets to stay in the weaker league.

  37. DPF October 24th, 2008 at 10:08 am

    Pat.

    Great post. Thnaks for taking the time.

  38. jason October 24th, 2008 at 10:12 am

    Maybe Madonna can get Arod to wear a gold thong and hit with his eyes closed. Sure seemed to work uin Bull Durham.
    Oh yeah – we tried that already this year.
    I will rack my brain for the next plan.

  39. Fredo Corleone October 24th, 2008 at 10:13 am

    “I’m not too sure why they would go after Fuentes when K-rod is on the market.”

    Krod demands are pretty ridiculous. Despite the saves, this may have been his worst season as a closer. He wasn’t as good as Mo, Papelbon, or Soria in the AL. Despite his relative youth, 5/$75 is a big gamble for him.

  40. Braintrust October 24th, 2008 at 10:14 am

    Just for those keeping score, here’s a rundown on how the Yankees farmhands are doing in terms of playing for the team.

    Hughes= Big potential, can possibly be a factor next season
    Duncan= Done as a Yankee
    Cabrera= On life support, if he is still around by Spring, will have to hit to make team as a 4th outfielder. With Gardner around, highly unlikely.
    Kennedy= Done as a Yankee
    Igawa= Done as a Yankee
    Gardner= If the Yanks don’t get a starting CF, will be the guy. Other than that he’s their 4th OF, bench player.
    Christian= Behind Cabrera, and Gardner. Will either rot in the minors, or catch on with another team as a potential 4th OF.
    Jackson=One more full season in AA & AAA.
    Coke= Will either be BP Lefty, or start for AAA next year.
    Melancon= Yanks will probably look at him in Spring training, if he is good, may catch on in pen, if not AAA. Will probably see some action next season.
    Wright=Odd man out
    Britton=Odd man out
    Sanchez= Has chance to catch on in pen.
    Albandejo=Has to show he has rebounded from Injury.
    Aceves=Will probably compete for 5th starter spot.
    Rasner=On life support, will probably be traded or released by Spring.
    Miranda= Playing very well in fall league, if the Yanks don’t sign a first baseman could get shot. Will get a good look in the Spring. If they sign Texiera, could be trade bait.

    This is just a brief rundown of players who will, or could possibly contribute to the team next season.

  41. Time to "Go John Galt" October 24th, 2008 at 10:14 am

    Patrick, F-Rod is looking for far too much in his paycheck for what he can do. He is costly and probably will lose effectiveness over the next couple of years. Why would anyone pay him what he THINKS he should get?

  42. jason October 24th, 2008 at 10:15 am

    Pat – you are right. I was listening carefully last night and many of the “young” players like Upton, Shields, Pena etc were drafted in 2001, 2002 and worked their ways through the system. Some had setbacks and overcame them. It will take another couple of years for the ’05, ’06 draft class impact to be fully felt and then we go forward with ’07, ’08.
    By the way, it seemed to me that none of Hamels, Shields, or Myers lights up the radar gun at 95-100. So maybe there is a future for Hughes.

  43. jason October 24th, 2008 at 10:15 am

    Pat – you are right. I was listening carefully last night and many of the “young” players like Upton, Shields, Pena etc were drafted in 2001, 2002 and worked their ways through the system. Some had setbacks and overcame them. It will take another couple of years for the ’05, ’06 draft class impact to be fully felt and then we go forward with ’07, ’08.
    By the way, it seemed to me that none of Hamels, Shields, or Myers lights up the radar gun at 95-100. So maybe there is a future for Hughes.

  44. Mark in Tampa October 24th, 2008 at 10:23 am

    No way K-Rod gets what he wants. With the economy slumping, it is a bad time to ask any team for a huge deal. Also, the major players are out–Boston, Yanks, Angels, and apparently, the Mets. That leaves Detroit as the only team willing to spend that might need a top closer. When you eliminate the big dog in the market(Yanks) it is very difficult to get anybody else to give you crazy money. Just ask Arod. Once the Yanks denounced him last year, no way anybody else would pony up what he was demanding.

  45. Time to "Go John Galt" October 24th, 2008 at 10:27 am

    I think the radar gun has been the worst thing to happen to pitching. Mussina doesn’t have any overpowering speed, yet he was able to do just fine this year.

    Too much emphasis is placed on 95+ MPH fastballs. Pitching is an art, throwing fast seems to be replacing that.

  46. GreenBeret7 October 24th, 2008 at 10:27 am

    Pat, it seems like there is a lot of jealousy from the people who post on these boards nd fans in the stands…both male and female. It’s just dificult to figre out who they’re jealous of. I’m beginning to think they (both male and female) are more jealous of the women that he’s connected with. Rodriguez puts up numbers that blow away anybody else on the team and most in either league. Just think about where the team would be if the other 8 regulars had but up those numbers….or at least closer to their normal numbers than they did. As far as the post season mishaps go, very few if any have been exactly steller in the games since 2004.

  47. Braintrust October 24th, 2008 at 10:27 am

    My guess on K-Rod is he gets 4 years @ 52M.

  48. Time to "Go John Galt" October 24th, 2008 at 10:28 am

    I think the Angels will be involved with F-Rod, but they won’t go top dollar. Nor should they.

  49. Tom October 24th, 2008 at 10:31 am

    K-Rod’s peripheral stats were surprisingly average. He wants record money for a closer. I don’t think any team would do that.

    However, Francisco Cordero got crazy money from the Reds last year, so anything is possibe.

    Of course, the Mets should sign 2-3 arms for their pen with the money K-rod wants. their middle relief is awful.

  50. Mark in Tampa October 24th, 2008 at 10:33 am

    “My guess on K-rod is he gets 4 years @ 52M.”

    I think that is probably about right. If he drops his demands to that, he will have a lot more options as far as teams interested. At 5 or 6 years for 16M/year–nobody. He wants more money than Mariano, but Mariano got that as much as a lifetime achievement award as for what he will actually produce over 4 years. Of course, he performed up to it this year. K-rod is going to ask teams that have zero loyalty to him to break the bank for a guy who has already had his best seasons.

  51. Jeremy October 24th, 2008 at 10:36 am

    I doubt anyone is following the ARod/Madonna “story” closely enough to know this, but is there any evidence that they are romantically involved?

    Reading it over and over again on this blog, which is supposedly dedicated to journalism on some level, can make one think so, but the only “facts” I’ve seen here came with a link to quotes from an unnamed sources in that pinnacle of reporting, US Weekly.

    And oh yeah, lighten up, I love it when …, etc.

  52. Patrick October 24th, 2008 at 10:37 am

    “Krod demands are pretty ridiculous. Despite the saves, this may have been his worst season as a closer. He wasn’t as good as Mo, Papelbon, or Soria in the AL. Despite his relative youth, 5/$75 is a big gamble for him.”

    You are forgetting Joe Nathan :)

    Of course it is risky but this is the Mets and Omar Minaya we are talking about. How could he resist signing K-rod to a huge deal?

    In all honesty, I think K-rod could get a deal similar to Mo. Perhaps less AAV and more years. Maybe 4 yrs, $55 million? I personally wouldn’t want my team to sign that deal but I think the Mets would.

  53. YANKS IN 2010 October 24th, 2008 at 10:39 am

    The disparity in thinking here shouldn’t amaze me but sometimes it still does. Some want to go into full youth mode and banish all the veterans. Some think all the kids stink and the Yankees need to spend, spend, spend on veterans. Everything in moderation seems to work in life and that balance is probably a good approach in building a baseball team too.
    _______

    Pat, is that short for patience….I completely agree with your assessment and have been trying to advocate for it for quite some time..

    Given Cashman and Hal’s comments concerning you and fiscal prudence…. it seems they agree too…now we just have to convince the impulsive bandwaggoners who got addicted to the highs in the 90′s

  54. Mark in Tampa October 24th, 2008 at 10:40 am

    Who is this Madonna anyway? Is she somebody that I should have heard of?

  55. YANKS IN 2010 October 24th, 2008 at 10:42 am

    you= youth

  56. Therston October 24th, 2008 at 10:42 am

    I never understood the garranteed spot theory for Phil. He earned that chance last year. He pitched well in September and October so why not give him a chance in April? He earned that spot and then lost it by performance and injuries. Now, he must earn it again by showing that start this past year in September against Toronto was an example…of what he can do.

  57. mel from Taco Bell October 24th, 2008 at 10:45 am

    I love how Joe Nathan swatted down Papelbon during his contract negotiations. Papelbon said he was fighting for a generous 1-yr contract to help out all the closers down the road.

    Nathan said something to the effect that they don’t need Papelbon to speak for them. Nathan made some kind of funny comment that shot down Papelbon’s credibility.

    If there are bidders, K-rod will approach $15M. Do the Angels get involved? K-rod’s stuff wasn’t what it used to be.

  58. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 24th, 2008 at 10:45 am

    lol John Galt every time I see your name I think of how amazing that book was, good job.

    K-Rod wants a bigger check than Mariano Rivera. It’s funny the nobody who owns a Lincoln Towncar says it’s just like a Mercury Grand Marquis, but every guy i’ve ever met with a Mercury tells me it’s just like my Towncar. Every closer that needs to get paid compares themselves to Mo and how they’re worth just as much as him, see what I mean?

  59. Tom October 24th, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Look at Ryan Howard this post season. He’s been awful, yet, the Phillies are in the world series.

    Manny Ramerez hit .600(!) in the playoffs and his team is playing golf right now.

    Teams don’t live and die in the playoffs on the performance of one hitter.

    Shut down starting pitching is what wins in October.

  60. YANKS IN 2010 October 24th, 2008 at 10:46 am

    Therston,

    It’s nice to say Hughes should earn it…and of course he shouldn’t be given then job…but we may NEED him to start anyway

    CC
    Wang
    Chamberlain
    Pettite
    ???….I would guess Hughes or Aceves would be here?

  61. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption October 24th, 2008 at 10:48 am

    Yi2010: I think that the general belief is the Yankees are going to go for 2 starting pitchers. So your rotation would look more like this in the perfect world:
    CC
    Wang
    AJ
    Pettite
    Chamberlain

  62. YANKS IN 2010 October 24th, 2008 at 10:52 am

    I don’t think that’s realistic though…

    What are the chances the Yanks get 3 out of the top 5 FA’s on the market…I don’t even think they can

    So let’s assume they get Tex and CC…that leaves AJ out

    CC
    Wang
    Chamberlain
    Pettite
    ???….I would guess Hughes or Aceves would be here?

  63. Fredo Corleone October 24th, 2008 at 10:55 am

    “Shut down starting pitching is what wins in October.”

    No accident your Championship Series MVPs were Garza and Hamels.

  64. mel from Taco Bell October 24th, 2008 at 10:56 am

    It’d be perfect if Moose came back.

    I’m not penciling in Hughes, but if you have CC on your staff, you can afford to carry Hughes as your #5.

    The ideal situation would be 2 FA so Hughes could do a full year at AAA. But he really needs to learn to pitch in the big leagues. That 7 ER inning in AFL is an outlier IMO, so if you disregard that, Phil’s been on track since September in both the majors and minors.

    Don’t remember who was on the Tampa staff last year, but I’ll go out on a limb and say that Sonnanstine and Shields, 2 pitchers pitching in the WS were in the rotation last year and learned on the job last season.

    It can be done.

  65. pat October 24th, 2008 at 11:01 am

    GB

    I’m not sure it’s jealousy but more a lack of appreciation at how hard the game of baseball really is and a lack of acceptance that these guys are human beings and not machines- both on and off the field.

  66. Pauly October 24th, 2008 at 11:01 am

    “Fredo Corleone
    October 24th, 2008 at 10:55 am
    No accident your Championship Series MVPs were Garza and Hamels”

    Garza wouldn’t have been in position to win the award if not for BJ Upton. No accident

  67. Fredo Corleone October 24th, 2008 at 11:02 am

    Mel:

    Shields got most of his OTJT in 2006, when he made 21 starts for the big club. Last couple seasons he’s been a 215 IP horse with good numbers.

    Sonnanstine’s ’07 was pretty much OTJT.

  68. mel from Taco Bell October 24th, 2008 at 11:04 am

    It could be argued that Upton and Victorino were the MVPs as well for their clutch contributions throughout the series.

    But the rule of thumb is a pitcher gets the award if a pitcher wins 2 games in a series, so that’s that.

  69. pat October 24th, 2008 at 11:06 am

    “Given Cashman and Hal’s comments concerning you and fiscal prudence…”
    “you= youth”

    Yanks in 2010-

    Thank goodness.

    I thought Cash and Hal commented on my fiscal prudence. My husband has a few opinions on that subject too. :smile:

  70. mel from Taco Bell October 24th, 2008 at 11:07 am

    Fredo,

    Thanks for that. I knew there was a reason they called him Big Game James. Just kidding!

    Lucky thing Shields won last night. This past season, his ERA after a loss was double what it was after a win. He can keep the name now.

  71. Fredo Corleone October 24th, 2008 at 11:14 am

    “Garza wouldn’t have been in position to win the award if not for BJ Upton. No accident”

    Upton’s 0 for 4 in Game 7 helpled Garza considerably, no doubt about it.

    Garza was 2-0 with a 1.38 ERA. Rays were 2-3 with a staff ERA of 4.17 when Garza didn’t pitch.

    Upton had 4 homers and 11 RBI. 2 Homers and 5 RBI came in games the Rays lost. 1 homer and 4 RBI came in games they won by 8 and 9 runs respectively.

    Garza was the more valuable guy.

  72. jason October 24th, 2008 at 11:15 am

    Just passing along what I read on another board from someone who was at the Hughes 7 er game. He said, that Phil was looking at his right hand quite a bit during the inning, perhaps a blister or finger nail thing. Didn’t seem serious but could explain some things. His first two innings that game he pitched quite well.
    I am not annointing and I certainly think Phil needs work on some of the secondary pitches, especially his changeup, but one bad inning can be an outlier.
    he pitches tonight in the rising stars game.

  73. bigjf October 24th, 2008 at 11:16 am

    Paul O’Neill was not a role player. He was part of the core group of stars. I mean the man hit 3rd for years.

  74. Fredo Corleone October 24th, 2008 at 11:17 am

    Mel:

    I think it was the yahoos at TBS who stuck him with that ridiculous name. He was never in a big game before ’08.

    Didn’t know his numbers were bad after L’s. Guess he turend that around last night (recall he lost Game 6 in the ALCS).

  75. Patrick October 24th, 2008 at 11:17 am

    Yeah, Garza was pretty much responsible for 2 of Tampa’s 4 wins in the ALCS. You can’t say that about Upton.

    Just goes to show you that pitchers become much more valuable when the postseason starts.

  76. Tom October 24th, 2008 at 11:20 am

    Since 2004 (Arod’s first year with the Yankees) the Yankees have played in 24 playoff games. 11 in ’04, 5 in ’05, 4 in ’06 and ’07. Their pitching staff gave up a total of 129 runs in those games.

    That’s an era of about 5.40.

    But yet Alex is the reason they don’t win in October?

  77. mel October 24th, 2008 at 11:27 am

    Jason,

    That big inning was a stumper. I think there were 2 guys on. Then next thing you know, there was a popup single to the middle infielder and 2 guys score. That tells me it was something similar to the Boston 3 run “single” in the division series against the Angels. The kind that’s supposed to be caught but got booted instead. Then it must have spiraled from there as he tried to get that final out. I can’t explain why a manager would leave a guy in to give up 8 runs, even in an instructional league. Was there a lesson to be learned there?

  78. Laura - Ready for '09 October 24th, 2008 at 11:28 am

    “But yet Alex is the reason they don’t win in October?”

    What can I tell you? Some of our fellow fans aren’t the brightest bulbs in the world.

  79. pat October 24th, 2008 at 11:30 am

    From Newsday:

    “I asked Tino if he’d be interested in filling the Yankees’ coaching opening. He said that, if asked, he’d have to consider it _ he couldn’t coach third base, he stressed, so there would have to be some shuffling _ but his first inclination is to stay home for a few more years.”

  80. saucY October 24th, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Fox needs to find new announcers ASAP. How monotone is Buck sounding these days? If the ratings for this series end up being extremely low, i think they need to take a look at who’s in the booth, not the competition on the field.

  81. GreenBeret7 October 24th, 2008 at 11:30 am

    pat
    October 24th, 2008 at 11:01 am
    GB

    I’m not sure it’s jealousy but more a lack of appreciation at how hard the game of baseball really is and a lack of acceptance that these guys are human beings and not machines- both on and off the field.

    ______________________________________________________

    I was going more on the pettiness of some of the reasons given for why they “don’t like” Rodriguez. Sadly, they seem to track pretty close to most of the “unbiased” reporting that’s done.

    I’ve never seen a player that according to people and media has more “unimportant homers, Runs scored and RBIs as Alex Rodriguez seems to have. I’m not a big believer in these off the wall stats that the freaks and geeks live and die with….especially the ones that project what a player might or should do.

  82. Joe from Long Island October 24th, 2008 at 11:33 am

    saucY – Joe Buck has said that his favorite sport is football, and that he doesn’t find baseball all that interesting. That could explain things.

  83. mel October 24th, 2008 at 11:38 am

    The beauty (and ugliness) of baseball is that you never know who’s going to step up. Carlos Ruiz getting getting it done throughout the playoffs, sparking the offense. Yadier Molina & So Taguchi hitting big homeruns in the post season.

    The postseason is where it counts for a lot of people, that’s where you make your reputation. Lots of boppers struggle in the postseason. Most recently Vlad Guerrero and Ryan Howard.

    It’s not fair, but a lot of fans are waiting for Alex to have his Aaron Boone moment.

  84. saucY October 24th, 2008 at 11:40 am

    JFLI, he’s a little more tolerable in football, but still stinks at broadcasting it.

    it was kind of refreshing to read this this morning… i am not alone.

  85. mel October 24th, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Nobody else questioning Maddon’s bullpen management? Morgan and Miller were saying, “I guess Price is not closing tonight” because he was warming up early, but he did end up closing.

    I know yesterday was a must-win and you can conceivably use Price for more than 3 outs. But he clearly didn’t have “it” last night and he threw more than 40 pitches.

    Should he have gone to someone else before Price? Despite losing the 7 run lead to Boston, I think they could’ve protected a 4 run lead without burning Price. Today’s an off-day, I would’ve used more than 2 relievers.

  86. jason October 24th, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Mel – Hopefully Hughes comes back strong tonight. Even more important will be innings and refining his arsenal: fastball command, sharper curveball, new cutter, and change. I think the change is key. Maybe Big Game James can give hims some pointers on the change – his looked pretty nice last night.

  87. pat October 24th, 2008 at 11:46 am

    mel

    This was made just for you. :smile: Sounds like Tom Brady was supposed to participate but I guess the injury prevented it.

    http://www.usngondemand.com/in.....8d2872f1ec

  88. mel October 24th, 2008 at 11:47 am

    jason,

    Hope so. Ironically Phil’s done pretty good in big games. lol.

    Thanks for the second hand account. I can’t believe there’s no video. haha.

  89. GreenBeret7 October 24th, 2008 at 11:50 am

    mel
    October 24th, 2008 at 11:44 am
    Nobody else questioning Maddon’s bullpen management? Morgan and Miller were saying, “I guess Price is not closing tonight” because he was warming up early, but he did end up closing.

    I know yesterday was a must-win and you can conceivably use Price for more than 3 outs. But he clearly didn’t have “it” last night and he threw more than 40 pitches.

    Should he have gone to someone else before Price? Despite losing the 7 run lead to Boston, I think they could’ve protected a 4 run lead without burning Price. Today’s an off-day, I would’ve used more than 2 relievers.

    ______________________________________________________

    That bullpen has been heavily worked over the last 2 weeks and Price was the most rested of the bunch, and especially Howell, who’s probably been their best relief pitcher in the post season, other than Price. That’s how I read it anyway.

  90. mel October 24th, 2008 at 11:50 am

    Pat,

    LMAO. Alex does have a goofy side (and the tips look nice).

    Poor Tom. :( I hope this isn’t career ending. Those infections are worrisome.

  91. 86w183 October 24th, 2008 at 11:51 am

    Here’s my definition of a “role player” —

    A player who does not start on a regular basis, but fills a specific situational need for his team. That need could be for a number of things including, lefty/righty power, speed on the bases, ability to reach base, advance runners and late inning defense.

    No, Paul O’Neill was not a “role player”. Tim Raines, Tony Clark, Darryl Strawberry, Chili Davis are examples from the glory days. It’s probably what Gardner and Melky should be.

  92. mel October 24th, 2008 at 11:54 am

    GB7,

    I’m sorry, I think that reads wrong. Did he go to Price thinking he was going to get 7 outs?

    If so, that’s wow. 4 run lead, got to go to someone else in the 8th and go to Price in the 9th.

  93. pat October 24th, 2008 at 11:56 am

    mel
    Maybe Kobe gave him some PR advice when they were together. :smile:

    According to reports this morning it sounds like Brady’s original surgery hasn’t been compromised by the infection. That’s got to be good news.

  94. mel October 24th, 2008 at 11:58 am

    You’ve got to trust your bullpen and not burn out guys. Wheeler hasn’t been as sharp as the long outing against Boston.

    I don’t really care, I’m cheering for the Phillies, but Price is their Joba. I’d think they’d be smarter than that. It worked out, but the tying run did come to the plate.

  95. jason October 24th, 2008 at 11:58 am

    I was meeting with one of the Orthopedists that was on call and worked on Bledsoe the day he got injured – leading to the Brady era. His words when he heard about infection was “that can’t be good news.”

  96. Jeremy October 24th, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    No no no 86w183, you’ve got it all wrong. A role-player is a humble, self-sacrificing, untalented player who achieves great things through sheer dedication to winning and force of will.

    In seriousness, a role-player is what you said he is, a bench player. And while I make fun of the “O’Neill was a role-player!!” crowd, we actually do need a significant upgrade to our bench.

  97. Bronx Jeers October 24th, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    ¨Patience has never been a virtue of the Yankees or their fans.¨

    Pete knocking our patience?

    And I´d be perfectly satisfied with the Yanks winning the Series say… only every other year?

    The nerve of these writers!

  98. mel October 24th, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    pat,

    Didn’t hear the news, thanks for that.

    While we’re sharing, I found this at hulu.com.

    Remember the twins from Cheap Seats? They have their own webisode series. Their uncle sells the TOPPS trading card company and they’ve got to save their jobs.

    It’s pretty funny: http://www.hulu.com/back-on-topps

  99. GreenBeret7 October 24th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    Price has only pitched in 4.2 innings in 4 games this post season. He’s a starter, so it’s not really overly worked. I’d be surprised if he pitches that many innings over the final 5 games.

  100. saucY October 24th, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    i think some of you are taking the ‘role player’ thing too seriously. i don’t think it is necessarily limited to a bench player as opposed to a starter. i think it’s more of someone that has a defined role: slugger, hitter for average, good glove, speedy, scrappy, etc…

  101. Frank from Chatham October 24th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    Most of us dwell on the physical capabilities of major league ball players. I have always wondered if intelligence in the major leagues is as or more important.

    And, then, I have also wondered if IRod has the required intellegence to be hit in truly pressure situations. Something like Berra and Jeter in the post season.

    He seems to largely compile his gaudy numbers against the back end of the rotation or in meaningless, non-pressure at bats against top of the rotation guys.

    I really wish this type of stat were available on major league hitters from Elias Sports Bureau.

  102. 86w183 October 24th, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    Frank— I’m sure you meant A-Rod. Actually his “clutch” situation stats over his career are quite good. This year they were awful and every knows how bad he’s been for the Yankees in the last three post-seasons.

    Jeter by the way was 3-for-17 last year against the Indians. ARod was actually slightly better at 4-for-15.

    For his career Jeter is .354 in ALDS, .262 in the ALCS and .302 in the WS. He has scored 85 R and has 49 RBI in 123 post-season games. Very good, but not phenomenal.

    ARod for his career has hit .258 in the ALDS (25g.) and .315 in the ALCS (14g).

  103. Cec21 October 24th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    http://blog.yoonew.com/2008/10.....-mind.html

    I think Cashman needs to go.

  104. pat October 24th, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Frank

    Did you see Berra play or are you going by reputation? Francessa was talking about how Berra struggled in the PS early in his career yesterday and it made me go look at his stats.

    A-Rod has had 147 post-season ABs and has 41 hits and 17 RBI.

    In Berra’s first 146 post-season ABs he had 38 hits and 14 RBI.

    Sometimes it is about sample size.

  105. 86w183 October 24th, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    I was always told size didn’t matter!

  106. Frank from Chatham October 24th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    86w183 – I did mean “ARod.” Thanks. Just a slip of a simple vowel.

    However, your clutch comment still does not differentiate what talent the pitcher had.

    I watched ARod like we all have and believe his stats were largely developed against the average AL pitcher. And at times, he certainly looked like he had no plan at the plate.

    Pat – I did see Berra play – many games, given I am 66!

  107. GreenBeret7 October 24th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    Pat, I saw quite a lot of Berra’s career, from the mid-50s forward. Like most players, he had good and bad post seasons.

    Another player, Mickey Mantle was always “clutch” in the WS, given his homers, RBIs and other numbers. However, he only hit .257. Rodriguez, from game 5 through the 2006 post season had read 4-41 with 1 RBI. From 1961-1963, Mantle had the numbers of 6-46 with 1 homer and 1 RBI.
    It only means that even legends have long strings of bad post seasons.

  108. GreenBeret7 October 24th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    Frank from Chatham
    October 24th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
    86w183 – I did mean “ARod.” Thanks. Just a slip of a simple vowel.

    However, your clutch comment still does not differentiate what talent the pitcher had.

    I watched ARod like we all have and believe his stats were largely developed against the average AL pitcher. And at times, he certainly looked like he had no plan at the plate.

    Pat – I did see Berra play – many games, given I am 66!

    _________________________________________________

    For every player, most of their numbers are against fair to bad pitchers. That’s why the pitchers are fair to bad.

  109. 86w183 October 24th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    And why the other pitchers are good to great!

  110. GreenBeret7 October 24th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    86w183
    October 24th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
    And why the other pitchers are good to great!

    ______________________________________________
    Check out his numbers against some Cy Young pitchers over his career…like Clemens, Colon, Pedro Martinez, Halladay, Mulder, Tim Hudson, and others like Beckett, David Wells, Kelvim Escobar, Burnett, Garza, Langston and on and on.

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