Tonight in the World Series
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Oct 25, 2008 
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Game 3: Tampa Bay (Matt Garza) at Philadelphia (Jamie Moyer), 8 p.m. on Fox.
You can’t get a much more disparate pitching matchup, can you? Garza is a 24-year-old right-hander who will throw a fastball almost exclusively. He has pitched 19 innings in the postseason, allowing 15 hits and striking out 18. His ERA is 3.32.
Moyer, who turns 46 next month, is a lefty who wants to throw pretty much anything but his fastball. He has been getting crushed in the postseason, lasting 5.1 innings in two starts and allowing eight earned runs on 10 hits.
Meanwhile, it’s supposed to start raining soon in Philadelphia. If this game is delayed by rain, the television ratings could take a beating. Especially with Penn State-Ohio State on ABC, Notre Dame on ESPN2 and Alabama on ESPN at 8.
If you’re watching, enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 4:57 p.m.: This has nothing to do with baseball. But the police chief of Harrison, N.Y., called out Isiah Thomas for covering up his drug overdose yesterday by saying it was his daughter.
What a thing to do to your own child. And his son was in on the cover-up. You have to feel badly for the guy’s family. But this confirms all those reports about what a snake Thomas was when he was coaching the Knicks.
Meanwhile, if you follow Rutgers football (and I do), Mike Teel has somehow thrown for 311 yards and five touchdowns in the first half against Pittsburgh. That’s right, in the first half.
And it’s pouring in Philadelphia.
UPDATE, 8:26 p.m: As you have likely figured out by now, Game 3 is being delayed by rain. As some sit-com plays on Fox, millions of Americans have switched to college football games on other networks.
UPDATE, 9:45 p.m.: They’re introducing the teams now and there will be a Game 3 of the Series tonight.
Hughes belongs in aaa
Has anyone seen the new Guitar Hero: World Tour commercial with A-Rod, Michael Phelps, Kobe Bryant and Tony Hawk? It’s freakin’ hilarious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAgj5eKm8kg
Yet another year goes by when the Commissioner doesn’t wake up and realize that the regular season needs to be shortened to 154 games and the playoffs and World Series started at least a week sooner.
The NFL is approaching the halfway point and the NHL has started with the NBA getting ready.
Plain and simple . . . . GREED.
Brian Hoch at Bombers beat says:
“Cashman has already said he’s not pursuing a free agent catcher, so Pudge will play elsewhere in ’09 while the Yankees cross their fingers on Jorge Posada’s health (Moeller could return on a Minor League deal to add depth).”
Ummm are you kidding me????? Talk about not learning from past mistakes. This is the one position, we absolutely need a legitimate backup for. Noone knows what the future holds for posada but it is almost a guaranteed fact that he will be injured at some point during his next couple of yrs in pinstripes. Also, how much longer can he even stay our catcher? One yr, two yrs at full time? I dunno where they get their information from but I pray cash is smarter than that. We absolutely need as a requirement a legit backup catcher for the next couple of seasons and moeller wont cut it. To me, this isnt even a question or a debate – its just fact.
Don’t be surprised to see tonight’s game postponed.
Jamie Moyer needs to pitch like Mike Mussina tonight.
How does hughes let up two homeruns but only one earned run? Was one of the homeruns unearned? I cant find a box score on it. Just curious.
dave,
Jose Molina is still the backup catcher. If Posada is injured the next few years as you state as a certainty Cervelli should be ready by then.
raymagnetic: Indeed, he does!
When’s the last time they ppd a World Series game?
The weather in the Bronx today is kind of awful and gross…definitley not the type of weather you’d want to go see a game.
“Dan
October 25th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Here’s the original article. Notice the date”
Dan: thank you for the link.
I don’t know if it’s true. I hope not. Only person who reported it.
if it is true, every person on the site/blog have a right to talk of the non-Santana trade. Kennedy/Melky/Tabata? The trigger should’ve been pulled.
ray mag,
Yea, I actually forgot about Molina because he wasnt mentioned in the article and moeller was. Sorry about that. But you know posada will get injurred again this season or next. He will be 38 sometime next season- its not even really a matter of getting injured or not – the truth is, I dunno how much longer he can catch and still throw people out effectively after this season. But molina is good enough for now I guess. A 216 batting avg isnt off the charts tho.
It’s not true.
Buster Olney, Peter Gammons and John Heyman even said that wasn’t true. Tabata was a untuchable at that time he wasn’t even on the trade list, LaVelle E. Neal went as far as calling it a fabrication on his Minny blog. People continue to take Bob Klapisch’s initial report as the end all be all it wasn’t true.
haha Adam, i saw that video yesterday… and couldnt stop laughing
dave: someone needs to tell Posada, he might as well pick up a first base mit, or prepare to DH right now. He will not be catching in April/May. Or at least, he shouldn’t be.
vinny – im pretty sure it was hughes, melky and they wanted ajax as the third guy – if it was tabata, melky and kennedy the deal would have happened. But I think hughes and ajax together made the deal fall through. I may be wrong tho but tabata was traded a couple of months later so he wasnt being kept too close to the vest. And there is no way melky and kennedy prevented the deal from happening. Santana is clearly a better bet than kennedy despite the age difference and melky wasnt even called up in september showing how much faith the yanks kept in him. I just cant imagine that package was rejected by the yanks. I think they even would have given up hughes and melky if no one else was involved. Yet, the mets gave up absolutely nothing to get johan so who even knows what the yanks turned down? Did the twins want him out of the AL so bad that they took garbage over hughes? Its hard to believe but it doesnt really matter any more anyway. More money to spend on CC i guess.
Moyer needs to channel his inner Mike Mussina
“Brandon (TEIX IS NOT WORTH IT, GET CC !)…”Don’t trade Robi !”
October 25th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
It’s not true.
Buster Olney, Peter Gammons and John Heyman even said that wasn’t true. Tabata was a untuchable at that time he wasn’t even on the trade list, LaVelle E. Neal went as far as calling it a fabrication on his Minny blog. People continue to take Bob Klapisch’s initial report as the end all be all it wasn’t true”
kewl. Yup, i remember everything being ‘wang/kennedy’ at the time.
Rebecca, some examples of WS Games being postponed not just for one day for but a couple of days are :
1962. Game 5 was postponed for one day. After it was postponed from Oct. 9 to the 10th, and after the travel day of the 11th (NY to SF), Game 6 was postponed for three consecutive days (12-13-14) until it was played on Oct. 15th, SF winning. The Yanks won the Series in Game 7 on Oct. 16th.
1975. After Game 5 was played October 16th in Cincinnati, and after the October 17th travel day, Game 6 was postponed three consecutive days, the 18th, 19th and 20th until it (the Fisk game) was played on October 21st, Red Sox forcing the Game 7, played on October 22nd.
So those are two instances of a World Series game being postponed for three straight days because of rain.
….and of course there was 1989, in which the earthquake delayed Game 3 of that World Series by ten days.
Watch it clearer
dave,
I don’t know the prognosis on Posada’s shoulder but he’s supposedly going to be ready in April to catch. His shoulder didn’t get injured again for years after his first surgery so it may hold up for the duration of his contract. At least I hope so.
OT-Anyone know if there are any highlights of Ewing Jr from last night around online anywhere? I hear little Pat had a pretty nice 4th quarter. I hope he can somehow make the team..
what movie was that? i know i seen it before, but forgot the name of it.
Assuming his shoulder is completely healed, Jorge will be eased in behind the plate in the early season and as the weather warms up, Joe Molina will see less time.
Frankie Cervelli has options and can be available from AAA at certain times of the season, like when the schedule gets heavy.
I love how tabata was untouchable in the off season but traded to pittsburgh only months later – how quickly things change? This is why no one should be untouchable for the right price and why the yanks need to learn how to sell high and buy low. IE cano, hughes and melky should be absolutely untouchable right now while cash should be fielding all the offers he can get for coke and aceves. Tabata was at his absolute highest value last off season – he should have been the first one to be talked about in a trade if it brough us back someone under 30 or under 25.
what movie was that? i know i seen it before, but forgot the name of it.
“Risky Business” Tom Cruise
raymag,
He is significantly older this time around – I think you are asking too much of him to catch for the next three years. How many catchers last into their forties and continue to catch after a major shoulder surgery? I would be happy if posada caught for one more yr and was moved to first or dh thereafter. Honestly, i dont think this contract was made with the idea that posada would remain the catcher all the way through.
Dave, Tabata had thrown fit’s and showed the yankees he was unstable and had a bad attitude, had he not freaked out, maybe he would still be on the yankees.
SA -
Lil Ewing’s monster dunk in the 4th
dave,
Posada may very well move to DH in the next couple of years once Matsui’s contract is up. I know he’s older this time around but there’s still no guarantee that he’ll get hurt again just because he was older when he got his surgery.
“Yet another year goes by when the Commissioner doesn’t wake up and realize that the regular season needs to be shortened to 154 games and the playoffs and World Series started at least a week sooner.”
Cutting 8 days from the regular season takes 8 days of gates and concessions from the owners pockets and it’s not going to happen. Because of the WBC, next year the season starts a week later and game 7 of the WS wouldn’t be played until November 4th. Selig is looking at cutting out off days during the postseason to tighten up the season rather than cut the # of regular season games.
“Risky Business†Tom Cruise
thanks, i knew it. I knew it was either Cruise or Jerry O’Connell.
jeff marquez getting the start in AZ…miranda and russo playing..no ajax
Mike S: So it’s been a while, thanks.
“dave
October 25th, 2008
He is significantly older this time around – I think you are asking too much of him to catch for the next three years. How many catchers last into their forties and continue to catch after a major shoulder surgery? I would be happy if posada caught for one more yr and was moved to first or dh thereafter. Honestly, i dont think this contract was made with the idea that posada would remain the catcher all the way through”
tru, dave.
it why we cannot lock up Texeira for 6 or 7yrs. Posada, Jeter, Arod, Montero, will have to play somewhere. Sooner rather then later.
roster flexibility is key.
Thanks Ed! Wow.
Watching that brings me tears of Joy.
SA -
I think Lil Ewing will make the team because of his dad, and will be a bench player to say the least. Between now and opening day, who knows who will make the team.
Hughes, Veras, Ramirez, and Colin Curtis. For, Matt Holliday.
would Colorado do it? prolly not
NEW YORK — Bill Livesey was hired by the New York Yankees as a pro scout on Thursday, 13 years after he was fired as vice president for player development and scouting.
Livesey, who oversaw the Yankees’ draft when they selected Derek Jeter with the sixth pick in 1992, was with the Yankees from 1977-95 as a minor league manager, area scout, national crosschecker and farm director.
The baseball and soccer coach at St. Petersburg’s Eckerd College from 1972-77, he was hired as Tampa Bay’s director of player of personnel a week after he was fired by the Yankees.
He became special assistant to the general manager for Toronto in November 2001, then was hired as special assistant to the GM of the New York Mets in December 2003.
Very good hire by Cashman.
vinny, that’s way overpaying. Holliday’s good but he’s not that good.
Ed, believe it or not he might be waived. Anthony Roberson has a guaranteed 2 yr. contract out of SL, and JJ Fat still has 3 yrs. left in his contract, they aren’t cutting anybody and most likely will let him go first.
Ed-I really hope he makes it. From everything I read, he seems like a good kid and the team also loves him.
Anyways, the Knicks..oy. I guess we will have to wait and see.
Brandon -
wow, thanks for pointing it. if he does get waived, who you think might pick him up?
Bill Livesey was very key in the 92 draft from all I’ve read, not a bad hire to help Oppenheimer and Cash w/ identfying young amateurs.
May not have been a while. The instances I gave where when a game was postponed for a good period of time.
wow, thanks for pointing it. if he does get waived, who you think might pick him up?
Over the river and through the woods
***were***
In fact, the last postponement of a WS game happened just two years ago. Game 4 of the 2006 WS was postponed by one day.
Livesey is supposed to be good. The one negative that I heard about him was that when he was with the Mets he pushed for the trade of Kazmir for Zambrano.
Rebecca -
exactly 2 years ago today, game 4 of the Cardinals and Tigers was postponed to the following day.
so it hasn’t been awhile. lol
…and Mike S beat me to it. good catch, Mike.
Surely no one is suggesting that we sign Pudge as a contingency plan. Right?
No way I believe that. No way over the GM ? over the minor league VP ? no chance.
BTW Ewing Jr. when he was a Hoosier had a sicker dunk.
Junior
His creativeness in the air and his all around game reminds me of a raw young Matrix.
Ahh, okay, I see.
Ewing Jr. again
is it me or does Brook Lopez sorta looks like David Lee? and I do mean his facial expression.
Awesome dunk by little Pat
If Manuel wants laughs, he should tell the media he told Moyer to pitch like Mussina.
To my mind the Yankees are weak in developing players in the Minors. This year was a case in point. Jackson held his own from last year. The minors high A through AAA were a bust other than McAllister and Melancon. Long was teaching Gardner bunting and utilizing his lower body hitting in the Majors. There are no teachers in the system other than Nardi who is about pitching mechanics.
“is it me or does Brook Lopez sorta looks like David Lee? and I do mean his facial expression.”
Your right B. Lopez has looked great so far. However the Lee comparisons are premature, lets wait til he puts up 10 and 10 in the regular season with a 55% FG percentage. I still hope Gallinari gets healthy for the Knicks he supposedly has a dirk like natural stroke and hes 6’11 and still growing.
He’s more of a very, very raw Duncan mold, I say very very raw because Channing Frye before Nate tackled his leg was like him, except you can Lopez more fundamentally sound and plays w/ a mean streak. He is tied w/ Oden in rookie RPG per game in preseason and in scoring Lopez averaged 11.8 ppg to Oden’s 11.5. Very solid player is Frank doesn’t screw it up.
Brandon and whoever else agrees with him -
Why are you against Tex?
I thought he was overhyped when he was with Texas because of the ballpark and whatnot, but as we’ve seen the past two seasons it doesn’t matter where he is, the dude can flat out play. He’s a gold-glover at first, switch hits for power and gets on base. What don’t you like about him and what other alternatives do we have for first?
Very solid player if Frank doesn’t screw it up. *
I’d put him better than Lee, because he can play defense and shoots well from the line and has a good jumpshot. Lee has never had a jumpshot, he was a bad FT shooter, and plays absolutely no defense but because he is white and the only strong energy IQ player on the Knicks it gets overlooked.
Why are you against Tex?
Because he’s turned down more than we are said to offer. He’s turned down a 19 million per ext. and a 20 from the Braves. He’s a money player, a fraud from everything I heard. His commitment would be 6-7 yrs. and we are in no place to do that right now. No one knows what’s happening w/ Posada if his shoulder isn’t strong enough, Matsui/Damon that is unclear, it only cause trouble and a glut then when FA starts again and a talented player hits the market what then.
Holliday would look great in pinstripes. However Hughes value has plummeted due to the injury this year and especially his struggling in the AFL against AA hitters. It would be impossible to get a great player for Hughes at this point it would be better to hold onto him. Gotta love Holliday’s .409 OBP however he wants a huge deal and with us going after Tex/CC and Burnett I dont see it going down.
I could understand why the Nets drafted Lopez. They needed someone to fill RJ’s shoes, after they traded him. I’m guessing they also need a “David Lee” on their team. Probably Lopez could do wonders for the Nets if he keep on doing what he does best.
Brandon,
I respect your opinion, but why do you call Tex a fraud? That’s pretty strong.
He shows up, plays, and plays well. That’s what I would want from a player.
A true professional who focuses on what’s important-baseball. You don’t hear all kinds of stuff about his personal life or anything not related to baseball.
Your criticism of his contract demands are warranted, but so far your attempts at character assassination seem to be off base.
I know, you’ve got dirt from your other “sources”, but the Angels don’t seem to have a problem with him.
Holliday would look great in pinstripes.
just think the black pinstripes on the Rockies uniform is blue, and replace the Rockies logo with NY. He’s already in pinstripes but not with the Yankees. LOL.
brandon maybe tex didnt want to stay with the braves…maybe he wanted a better chance to win…you cant hate a player because they want the most money or the best chance to win…thats how baseball is, thats how all sports are..he is a great player who wants to get his money..if the yankees offer him something and he rejects it (or not) so be it..
I was initially against signing Tex but after listening to Brandon, I am now rooting that we do indeed sign him, to a big deal too.
“Why are you against Tex?
Because he’s turned down more than we are said to offer. He’s turned down a 19 million per ext. and a 20 from the Braves. He’s a money player, a fraud from everything I heard. His commitment would be 6-7 yrs. and we are in no place to do that right now. No one knows what’s happening w/ Posada if his shoulder isn’t strong enough, Matsui/Damon that is unclear, it only cause trouble and a glut then when FA starts again and a talented player hits the market what then.”
There are no big FA’s coming out in the next few years. Also Tex is one of the best 2 way players in the game. What is happening now is Boras is posturing for 10/200 which will not happen unless Moreno gets ahold of some good drugs. I say 6-7 around 150 is what he’ll get and he is worth it. The last thing I want to see next year is a Posada/Miranda platoon.
maybe he wanted a better chance to win
Yet he needed Tori Hunter and the Angels players to convince him he should stay and has made no attempt to sign w/ them. What commitment to winning does he have ? He’s a money player, a guy seeking the paycheck.
Is A-Rod a fraud too then?
“Chaz
October 25th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Why are you against Tex”
what Brandon said and,
ok. We lock up Texeira for 6 or 7yrs. Posada, Jeter, Arod, Montero, will have to play somewhere. Sooner rather then later. Then what.
apparently Colorado is shopping Holliday. I’d rather explore a trade for him. Holliday fills the greatest need on the current team, and in the future. The only projected OF’ers in the NYY system are AJax and Almonte (raw)
Another impressive thing about Holiday he has some speed. 28 SB’s last year in 30 attempts thats a great ratio.
its ok brandon..your right and everyone else is wrong…tex is a terrible player and he should play for the league minimum because hes not worth anyting…i like a lot of your opinions brandon but your ideas on tex are way out there…
Is A-Rod a fraud too then?
Do you ever read the posts here ?
From Hughes to Teixeia.
Is this a “Greatest Hits” weekend here on Lohud?
Teixeira is a great player. 36hr and 120 rbi’s a season are darn good stats. He’s a gold glove winner too.
I’ve never heard any dirt against him. To call him a fraud is unwarranted.
RalphieD the poster asked why I’m against it, I told him/her why. I didn’t push anything on anyone. It’s my opinion on everything I heard.
Brandon– what Boras client EVER listens to extensions before hitting the market?
They don’t. Why are you chastising Tex for doing so when none of his other clients do either?
Brackman is a Boras Client too and took us to the deadline to sign him and required a ML deal and a huge signing bonus, I guess he sucks.
If he was Latino then Brandon would love him!!!
where do you here this stuff brandon…secret spies…military intelligence??? i have never heard anything bad about tex…what is wrong with wanting the most money you can get…thats the norm in sports today not the exception..i love guys that give hometown discounts and stuff like that but you cant expect stuff like that…
Holliday is a stud, he will be an excellent replacement for Nady in 2009.
Luckily he is a Boras client so he won’t sign an extension with the team he was traded to, so we’ll have our shot at him.
Teix wants money, who cares? So does everyone else.
You think Jeter is giving us any hometown discounts in 2010? Did Bernie when he was about to go to Boston in 99? What about Posada who openly said on Kay’s show he would have gone to the Mets if we didn’t give him the extra year?
Money shouldn’t warrant attacks on someone’s character. He is doing what he is entitled to do.
If he was a 20 year old with no power what so ever playing AA, Brandon would anoint him the chosen one.
(If I knew how to do a smiley thing I would. It’s the only way to show I am not serious)
Brandon – Will you be saying this about CC when the only reason he comes here is if we give him 40% more (a figure reported by Olney) than the 2nd highest bidder?
“Fire Meachum
October 25th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Holliday is a stud, he will be an excellent replacement for Nady in 2009.
Luckily he is a Boras client so he won’t sign an extension with the team he was traded to, so we’ll have our shot at him”
not if we sign Tex. This is part of the point. You can’t sign everyone. Not even if you’re the NY Yankees.
CC isn’t all about the money, he actually sacrificed his career for Cleveland and Milwaukee. If he wants to come here it won’t be a long discussion. CC I understand Teix is not a guy I’m in favor of.
Brandon,
LOL. The reason why CC was traded because he couldn’t come to terms with Cleveland. He sacrificed NOTHING for Milwaukee. He was a rental.
I’ll be very impressed if he gives the Brewers a pity discount and resigns with them.
Then I’ll eat that mac nut humble pie.
vinny,
You lose salary from Damon ($13 mil), Nady (whatever his arb. number is), and Matsui ($13 mil), and potentially Pettitte/Mussina ($12 mil) if they re-sign, at the end of the 09 season.
We’re going to need some outfielders. We don’t have any under contract in 09. Jackson presumably will be the only one penciled in (if he has a good AAA stint next year). They aren’t having a Gardner-Jackson-Melky OF.
brandon,
the reason cleveland even traded him was because he turned down their contract offer for 5/$100 (20 mil a year).
he isin’t taking a discount to play in milwaukee. he didn’t even talk extension with them either.
CC sacrificed something for Cleveland? really?
And he won’t come here only for money? Is that why every outlet has speculated that we have to blow him away money wise just to get him to come here and his first choice is the NL/WC? Every article that talks about CC ends with “but the Yankees have $88 million coming off the books and can offer the most money and give him an offer he can’t refuse”.
Doesn’t sound like someone who is dying to be a Yankee.
Teix we know wants to come to NY. Maybe not at a discount, but he wants to come here. All the beat writers said as much from talking to him. He himself said he loves NY and comes here a lot because his sister works in Manhattan and lives in NJ. He is an East Coast guy to the fullest.
I don’t think you should pass on him and think that we’ll get Holliday. How do we know he even wants to come to NY? He spent his career on the West Coast, hes from Oklahoma. He may have Peavy-itis.
Always grab the players who want to come here and understand what playing here is about. Don’t force guys to come here who really have no interest and want to be elsewhere.
We absolutely cannot trade hughes for holliday – one, the rockies wouldnt do it. hughes doesnt have the value he did last yr in the eyes of other GMs and the worst time to trade hughes would be now (i dont ever want him traded but i ESPECIALLY think now would be the worst time.) Two, why would the yanks who are soo desparate for starting pitching at the moment trade a starter for an outfielder – currently, we have three starting pitchers next yr none of whom are guarantees and a fourth who prolly should be in the pen (Wang, hughes, chamberlain and aceves.) There is no guarantee that pettitte is coming back and i think Moose is all but retired. We dont have the luxury of trading 22 year old starters for all star outfielders like other teams can.
i DONT think tex would take a position away from posada or matsui. They can both DH. Both should also be able to play their respective positions for atleast one more season and matsui isnt going to be here that much longer anways. Tex is a proven stud – a five tool player and a young one at that. The yanks would benefit greatly from that kind of athleticism and defensive ability. With that said, the yanks are so in need of pitching i cant see how they could ever justify going after tex before they sign on atleast one and possibly two starters. if they secure the positions we need cash can go after a luxury like tex. Otherwise, he is certainly no a neccesity. If we have the money for all of these players (which we do considering the combined loss of significant salary and rise in ticket prices and sell-outs) then cash should sign all 3 but CC or some other starter well before Tex. You have to prioritize when a team has many holes to fill.
Someone refresh my memory:
How did the Giambi negotiations in 01? Did he want to come here? Were there these same West Coast rumors with him that he didn’t want to come to NY to adhere to the corporate mentality (considering he was the exact opposite of that personality-wise in OAK). Did he come here because we had the highest dollar and he wanted a ring?
if posada, jeter, or montero eventually need to move to 1B, then just move teixeria to left field or something.
Oddessy: Giambi loved Oakland. That said, when the money was offered, he went to the highest bidder.
“it why we cannot lock up Texeira for 6 or 7yrs. Posada, Jeter, Arod, Montero, will have to play somewhere. Sooner rather then later.”
Now we shouldn’t sign Teixeira because first base is where the Yankees are going to put older players (Posada Jeter, and Arod)?
Posada and Jeter would not hit enough to be league average at first base. That would be awful. Arod will, most likely, end up a DH.
Montero is in high A ball. He’s still 3-4 years away and there is no guarantee he even makes it to the bigs.
Teixeira is a move for the future as well as the present. If he accepts a 7 year deal (max I’d go) he’d be Jeter’s age (34-35) when it is over.
Moderate to heavy rains for the Philly area tonight. Winds preceding the rains to be 15-20 MPH, gusting to 30-40 MPH. I live about 60 miles from Philly (hate the Phils) and about 35 miles from Hazleton (hometown of Rays manager Joe Maddon) and right now, it is pouring, high winds and flat-out nasty.
Hey did you all see this
Newark Bears fold
“ok. We lock up Texeira for 6 or 7yrs. Posada, Jeter, Arod, Montero, will have to play somewhere. Sooner rather then later. Then what.”
Montero is in A ball, he was in low A ball this past season and he’s a catcher and from everything I’ve heard about him he’s a better catcher than Austin Romine is.
Not signing a player because we don’t know what will happen with A-Rod, Jeter, and Posada doesn’t make any sense to me. A-Rod isn’t moving from 3rd anytime soon nor is Jeter moving from SS anytime soon and if it comes down to Posada not being able to catch, which the jury is still out on, he can DH when Matsui’s and Damon’s contracts are up.
Damn
Ray,
Well said. Letting a kid in A-Ball and 38 yr old catcher hinder you from getting a legit 1B is senseless. Jeter/Arod are not moving anytime soon either. There is no need for them to and they probably don’t want to anyway. The DH is free next year, Posada can go there then.
We need to stop using the 1B position as a 2nd DH for aging players anyway and finally get a 2-way player there.
Newsflash Isiah Thomas is a liar we all knew this.
Lets not sign CC because he’ll just take a rotation spot from Brackman, dellin betances, zach mcallister, or somebody else who has not been drafted yet!!!!!!
Well I’m going out but before I leave my god for a human being to use his daughter as a cover up for his overdose that is a truly low individual in my eyes. I was already wondering had it been anybody’s daughter does a parent not cover up for them instead of pointing the finger at them. Ofcourse Isiah accidently swallows 10 pills blames it on his daughter and now it is found that it was a lie and the son was in on the cover up, who does this help ? OK I’m done till later.
I don’t know what’s going on with Isiah Thomas, it’s very odd. He’s one of the worst things to happen to the Knicks organization but I wish him well.
Isiah is one weird man. He OD’s and then says it was his daughter? I don’t even know what to say
kevin russo has been as hot as the sun…up to .382 now in 34 abs
The most disturbing part is that he used his daughter as a cover-up and thought nobody would find out.
The hospital said it was a 47 yr old man who was treated. How did he think he could get away with lying?
Did he try to pay them off or something?
…Isaiah Thomas has some issues he needs to work out. I feel so bad for his daughter.
Dan — I agree.
Let’s not clog up any position on the field so the prospects who have yet to reach AA can all just slide in like a well lubricated….well you know. Why should we have some pesky veteran performing in those spots.
Forget free agents. We have to keep spots open for 2010 and then in 2010 we’re going to need to keep those spots open for 2015.
Come to think of it, we shouldn’t actually field a team for the next 3 years.
G. Love LOL sadly, there are some people on this board who think like that.
They want us to become the old Devil Rays and play only young players, stay away from big contracts, and suck for the next decade.
Here’s what the Yankees should do.
Keep drafting high ceiling pitchers. Sign the best players from the latin american markets and buy what else they need need.
ISIAH THOMAS IS JUST A SCUMBAG.
Rebecca,
My husband took his mom (who lives in Bayonne) and our two daughters to see a Newark Bears game this summer, because it was a nice day and it was something to do. He said he could literally count all the people in the stands. Too bad.
The FO made a huge mistake by signing A-Rod, have they not heard of Bradley Suttle or CJ Henry? Where are they going to play if A-Rod is stuck at 3rd? We need to stop adding bloated contracts and let the young kids work their way up.
And don’t even think of signing Holliday after next year, we need to save that spot for Kevlin De Leon or Austin Krum.
someone set a smokebomb or stinkbomb off at the devils/flyers game.
I’m life long Knicks fan, I go way back to black and white TV days, they’re just too painful to watch.
Every game is like watching a close friend or family member being bludgeoned.
I made up my mind a few years ago I wouldn’t come back until they cleansed the organization.
Getting rid of Isiah was a step in the right direction.
This world series is terrible the last thing it needs is a rain-out and whats this I hear Obama paid off the network to cancel game 6 for one of his campaign promos. That is ridiculous if its true, I couldn’t care less about politics when I’m watching sports.
i dont want a competitive series.
i want someone to win quickly so we can move on to hot stove. the sox are eliminated that was the only important thing this postseason
“i dont want a competitive series.
i want someone to win quickly so we can move on to hot stove. the sox are eliminated that was the only important thing this postseason”
Sadly I have to agree this years series has no appeal to me. The Rays have been good all year this isn’t my first time seeing them like the rest of the country. The Phillies eh, I couldn’t care less about them.
It is intesting to see the posts we should not sign Tex becase we need a place for Posada.
If that is the thinking Cash shows then we can forget about yanks winning a world series until after Posada, Jeter et al retire.
If Posada were to play 1B or DH, he will not be close to the prodcution required for those positiions. If he can not play catcher well then he should go to the bench forgetting about the money being paid. 4 yr extension was bad.
We are going to face the same situaiton with Jeter in a couple of years. Given what happened with Posada (injuries, too long an extesion), it will have have an impact on Jeter negotiations and it will be messier that Bernie’s.
Ramon October 25th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
The FO made a huge mistake by signing A-Rod, have they not heard of Bradley Suttle or CJ Henry? Where are they going to play if A-Rod is stuck at 3rd? We need to stop adding bloated contracts and let the young kids work their way up.
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Am I missing something? Suttle started more games at 2B and Henry plays outfield. Am i wrong there? A-Rod is the one player in the infield who won’t suffer defensively (unless Cano gets it together). If anything, worry about SS. Defense there has been slipping lately and that’s a harder position to cover. Enough with calling A-Rod a mistake. And by that logic, don’t ever sign a free agent. There are multiple people in the farm system that play the same position. Obviously they will be superstars.
And not that I advocate signing Holiday, but Krum is hardly the reason. He is in Charleston and years away. You don’t sign Holiday because he’s terrible on the road.
never mind. i mixed up the position. Suttle is listed as 3B on mlb.com. but again, he’s in charleston and years away.
LOL. I think Ramon was being sarcastic.
But 10 years is a long time…
“Ramon October 25th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
The FO made a huge mistake by signing A-Rod, have they not heard of Bradley Suttle or CJ Henry? Where are they going to play if A-Rod is stuck at 3rd? We need to stop adding bloated contracts and let the young kids work their way up.”
Wow, you wanted the Yanks to let the best player of this generation end his career elsewhere so we can wait a few years for kids in low A who nobody has heard about? True lunacy.
mel,
It’s possible he was sarcastic. I’m just sensitive to A-Rod critics.
HERE IS A POLL QUESTION:
If you could have only 2 free agents this off-season who would they be?
MY ANSWER:
CC and Tex.
CC Sabathia and Matt Holliday
My choice will be CC and Perez.
If you could have only 2 free agents this off-season who would they be?
if $$ wasn’t an object? CC and Tex as well.
Guy’s I’m pretty sure that Arod comment was made in jest. An earlier poster wrote something to the effect that the Yankees should not sign Teixeira because it would block Jesus Montero.
Holliday is not a FA.
I know
thomas is an absolute waste of life. The world would be a better place if he wasnt part of it. I hate that guy!
An earlier poster wrote something to the effect that the Yankees should not sign Teixeira because it would block Jesus Montero.
I will worry about that when he is ready to come up. if Teixiera is infact signed with the Yanks, Montero could become a part time DH/1B depending on who is our DH would be in the future.
So the fact that I’m seeing 2.5 Men means there’s a rain delay?
Why even sign Tex? Eric Duncan appears to be ready to take over the position.
Hey, Ransom looked like he get the job done.
But he’s not a switch hitter…
Mel -
Pregame doesnt start for another 20 mins. I’m having Seinfield showing on my tv now.
“An earlier poster wrote something to the effect that the Yankees should not sign Teixeira because it would block Jesus Montero.
I will worry about that when he is ready to come up. if Teixiera is infact signed with the Yanks, Montero could become a part time DH/1B depending on who is our DH would be in the future.”
I’m sure we will find a place for Montero once some of the old man contracts are off the books Damon/Matsui/Posada. If Posada can’t throw anymore he can’t expect the Yanks to keep him as a full time player when kids are tearing it up in the minors, I expect Montero to take a few more years anyway so there shouldn’t be a conflict.
I would say cc and tex but that is just because there is no other cant miss pitcher on the market. Burnett is an injury risk and sucked this yr against everyone but the yanks. I think lowe would just be a gigantic waste of money – he has said he doesnt want to come to ny anyway and trust me, we dont want to sign him either. Oli perez is going back to the mets and will want a ridiculous amount of money for the talent he has but doesnt really show all that often. Sheets – HIGH risk high reward … seems a bit too risky. Then, there is smoltz – i wouldnt even go there. Everyone else is over the hill or league average. Out of everyone, it seems that burnett is the second best option which is not even close to a sure thing. Sheets is actually a close third and look at there innings over the last couple of seasons – its closer than most ppl think in terms of how injury prone they are. Sheets is clearly the better pitcher though. I would go after cc first. Then, target multiple starters and see who bites. Last, I would see whats going on with tex and if its not too high at that point, make the highest offer considering how much they spent previously on the two starters. I dont think thas a bad way to go and it addresses our biggest needs first
Montero is a better defensive catcher than Romine, at this point. If things stay as they are, Romine will be the one moved to another position..possibly a corner outfield spot.
Romine will be the one moved to another position..possibly a corner outfield spot.
could he run?
GB, I thought Montero was the one everyone was comparing to an ornamental fountain?
Al,
you back in BK? since you decided to take off this semester.
Burnett did not suck against everyone else. He pitched well within the division.
Ed – the Yanks will do absolutely everything in their power to keep Montero as a Catcher. An .850/.900 OPS guy with pop at 1B or DH is good. Those same numbers for a C is HOF material. Look at Posada. As a C he is infinitrly valuable. As a 1B or DH, he is probably below average.
Like Mauer, they will get as many years as they can as a C. They can always move him later in his career, if he is still hitting.
dave
October 25th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
I would say cc and tex but that is just because there is no other cant miss pitcher on the market. Burnett is an injury risk and sucked this yr against everyone but the yanks.
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That statement is BS. Look at his numbers against Boston, Chicago White Sox and Tampa. He has some problems against other teams…just like other pitchers.
“Al,
you back in BK? since you decided to take off this semester.”
Ya back in BK with the family. However at the moment visiting my friend at Hofstra.
mel from Taco Bell
October 25th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
“Burnett did not suck against everyone else. He pitched well within the division.”
Agreed, he has always been tough on the Sox.
Al,
that’s cool. you planning to head back to bing next semester though?
“Al,
that’s cool. you planning to head back to bing next semester though?”
Honestly I’m not sure Ed. Trying to keep options open. Bing is great and all but I think I wanna stay closer maybe apply to a CUNY or something. I’ll see what I can do I miss some people down here and I wind up in the city again. This hot-stove cant come soon enough I’m even more bored now cuz I have no classes to fret over.
Al,
definitely agree on the hot stove thing. was hoping for this series to be done by tomorrow night, but eh….ah well!
“Al,
definitely agree on the hot stove thing. was hoping for this series to be done by tomorrow night, but eh….ah well!”
This is unfamiliar territory watching Yankee-less play off games. I am more bored than I would have expected and my Jets are a .500 team.
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Staying to write the story
October 25th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
GB, I thought Montero was the one everyone was comparing to an ornamental fountain?
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Romine was drafted because he was supposed one of the top defensive catchers coming out of high school. So far, his bat is well ahead of his defense. Montero was supposed to be all bat, but, although he still has trouble with pitches in the dirt, he’s better than Romine. NYY does have another hot young catcher about one year behind them in Kyle Higashioka. Catching is in good hands in the future.
Green,
Just because Montero is better than Romine now, doesn’t mean it will stay that way. There isin’t one scout (Callis, Law, Goldstein, etc.) who thinks he will stay at catcher. Romine is 19 years old. Chances are much higher that Montero moves because he is so huge and they decide its not worth the burden on his knees to keep him at catcher when they have Romine there who has the perfect catcher’s frame.
And passed balls are not the only way to evaluate a catcher.
Ed – looking forward to 2009
October 25th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Romine will be the one moved to another position..possibly a corner outfield spot.
could he run?
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Romine runs pretty well, but, he’s no speed burner. He’s also a pretty good base runner. Maybe even with Paul O’Neill when he first came up. He has an outstanding arm and playing right field wouldn’t really be a stretch. Yankee Stadium’s left field may be a little too big, but, I think he could deal with it.
Romine’s tools and body type are much more conducive to staying at catcher than Montero, who is just a man beast.
They would be doing a Montero a disservice by keeping him there anyway. His value is his bat. Who cares if his defense is slightly better than Romine’s? Montero is a masher and he should go to a less demanding position where he can fulfill his offensive potential.
Hot Stove won’t really kick into gear until Thanksgiving time (thats when the Santana thing really started to heat up).
Until then, the hacks like Joel Sherman will just recycle the same information into different words. However, we should get some news before then like Burnett opting out, our new 3B coach, possibly the Peavy trade etc.
Romine is pretty versatile, he could play 3B, OF, 1B. He is pretty athletic and has a cannon arm. Offers us a lot of flexibility.
Of course, Catcher is the first position we’re going to need filled anyway so it might work out that way.
If Montero can hit the yankees will find a spot for him. whether or not they sign Texeira or not.
Hey folks, just got back from the bog Cal Bears win over the UCLA Bruins in Berkeley. I thought it would be cool, during the rain delay, to debate a seldom-discussed topic on here but one which I find pretty interesting.
Namely, many people forget that the Yanks had a chance to trade for Johan Santana during the last off-season. How do people think about Cashman and the non-trade a full season later? Have you thought about it? Do you even remember that Santana might have been available? Discuss.
This off-season might drag out longer than expected because of Boras. Two of the three biggest names on the market (Tex, Manny) belong to him. He is obviously going to drag it out. That could affect the CC market too, especially if he is intent on going to LA. He may wait to see what they do with Manny/Tex, and if they don’t resign with their current teams, one of them may jump in the CC pool, especially if we make our high offer known early on he might wait to see who comes close.
I have a feeling that Burnett will be the first off the market. Some team that isin’t in the CC sweepstakes (Mets, Sox, Tigers, Rangers etc.) is going to get him snatched up pretty quickly.
PAT
October 25th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Green,
Just because Montero is better than Romine now, doesn’t mean it will stay that way. There isin’t one scout (Callis, Law, Goldstein, etc.) who thinks he will stay at catcher. Romine is 19 years old. Chances are much higher that Montero moves because he is so huge and they decide its not worth the burden on his knees to keep him at catcher when they have Romine there who has the perfect catcher’s frame.
And passed balls are not the only way to evaluate a catcher.
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Callis, Law and Goldstein are not scouts. If they’ve seem them play more than two games, I’d be surprised. Monetero isn’t much taller than Carlton Fisk was and doesn’t weigh any more. He’s 6’4″ and 225 pounds and he’s in a lt better condition than any of the pudgy Molina brothers. It isn’t just passed balls, but, Romine doesn’t exactly have the quickest feet behind the plate. And, no, having good running speed isn’t the same thing.
Nick that California weather got in your head too much.
Nick, in hindsight, I am disgusted at the non-move. Especially after seeing what Hughes has regressed into and what Santana did for the Mets.
I’ll still root for Hughes but I really have my doubts that he becomes anything more than a middle rotation guy. Santana is showing no signs of decline at all. He reinvented himself from a strikeout guy into an economical guy (because his team had no pen) and he is still as dominant as ever.
Nick,
Hate the fact that he was saving the Mets every 5th day while Hughes didn’t win a game. Terrible non-move.
santana went 8-0 with a 2.17 ERA and didn’t lose a game in the final 3 months of the season.
hughes was injured, lost velocity, and can’t even get fall league hitters out.
do the math, it was an awful non trade. one that will haunt us for a long time unfortunately, especially if we dont sign CC
Gb -
thanks for the input.
That effeminate Issiaah Thomas is a piece of garbage lying sack. Now he’s trashing his own daughter to cover hisself. Unbelieveable.
Only time will tell, Nick.
If we sign CC, it will be forgotten (providing CC continues to do what he does in NY). If not, then it will be rehashed all winter when we go into yet another season with no ace and a bad rotation.
I understand the point of development, but when a Santana is available. Chances are we will never develop a pitcher of his caliber.
NYY Hunter
October 25th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Nick, in hindsight, I am disgusted at the non-move. Especially after seeing what Hughes has regressed into and what Santana did for the Mets.
I’ll still root for Hughes but I really have my doubts that he becomes anything more than a middle rotation guy. Santana is showing no signs of decline at all. He reinvented himself from a strikeout guy into an economical guy (because his team had no pen) and he is still as dominant as ever.
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Facing much easier #8 and 9 hitters wouldn’t have anything to do with it, would it?
**not when a Santana is available
I’m afraid that Hughes was hyped similar to the way Omar hyped Philip Humber. Both were injury prone and stuff that declined from when they were top prospects.
Omar could have had Haren, Tejada, Zito, Carlos Lee, Willis (when he was good) etc. for him at the 06 trade deadline, and a year later he was the 3rd player in the deal for Santana.
Let this be a lesson to Cashman— always open your eyes fully when evaluating prospects. Do not let top notch players like Santana get away.
Ed – looking forward to 2009
October 25th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Gb -
thanks for the input
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No problem, Ed. Not sure where you live, but, when you get a chance, make sure you see some of these kids out of Charleston, especially, the bats of Romine, Montero and Laird and that great pitching staff. This coming year, I’ll see Venditte, Muruszak, Joseph and Higashioka.
Nick, Thanks.
Nick in SF
Regarding Hughes, many Yankee fans have neither the patience or the desire to develope young pitching.
I believe both Hughes and Kennedy will succeed, but time is needed.
It is true that the 3rd player in the deal stopped the trade. But you know who MIN wanted? Jackson, Tabata, or Horne.
Horne was a classic sell high candidate. An injury prone guy has control issues and was having a fluke year at sge 25 in AA. He should have gone in the traded. Thats where Cashman isin’t good at valuating talent— he can’t tell the difference between a guy overachieving and a guy that ‘found it’. His ceiling was always a middle rotation guy, or a solid BP arm anyway. He should have been added to the deal. Now, we can’t even get Sal Fasano for him.
Heh, sorry, I was out in the sun too long.
GB -
I live in Brooklyn, NY. The only closest Minor League baseball in my location is the Staten Island Yankees and the Brooklyn Cyclones(Mets).
Holy blown coverage Penn State
Kennedy is done with the organization, he isin’t going to get anymore chances.
Not bringing him up to enjoy the final weekend at the stadium, when they brought up guys who haven’t even played at the ML level yet (Sanchez, Miranda, Cervelli etc.) showed us what the organization thinks of him.
And they pulled Rasner from the rotation, gave Kennedy one start on the road against a playoff team who owns us, and then yanked him and put Rasner back in the rotation– without even giving him another game.
Hughes still has a future here, Kennedy does not. He is merely depth now.
not an SEC person
have to give it to Tennesse, tho
- best fight-song
- best mascott
- best endzones (checkerboard)
and from what this game show, the best cheerleaders
So amped up for the Jints-Steelers game tomorrow, going to be a huge test for us.
4:15 kickoff on a messy field, 2 storied franchises built the same way– power running, good defense that brings pressure, hostile environment etc. going to have a playoff feel to it.
who’s going to be on the thunder this year? Anybody worth watching?
MLB should just cancel the game tonight. It’s already 9:00 and its not like they are going to get any ratings tonight with the great college FB games on. They’d much rather have it on Tuesday.
Ed – looking forward to 2009
October 25th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
GB -
I live in Brooklyn, NY. The only closest Minor League baseball in my location is the Staten Island Yankees and the Brooklyn Cyclones(Mets).
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That’s great, Ed. Do you get to the Staten Island games? Those are the kids that I’ll see playing in Charleston in 2009. Should be an interesting year.
Nick
Bad boy! Put yourself in time-out. 1 minute for every inning Johan pitched this year.
Tom,
They should have Garcia, McAllister, and De La Rosa all up. All 3 are very good pitching prospects. De La Rosa is a power lefty who is a converted position player, he tore up the SAL last year. Garcia is a guy who had TJS last year, he still has one of the highest ceilings in the organization and is only 22. McAllister is an intriguing guy. Put up fantastic numbers last year and had sick GB rates.
And by the end of the year, you could even see Bleich or Brackman if they move quickly.
Not much in terms of position prospects.
Thanks Clint
No candy bars for Nick!
pat: how about one minute for each of Phil and Ian’s wins?
Don’t sign CC.
Not worth it when we have Brackman, Horne, Marquez, Betances, Gerrit Cole, Bleich, Bittle, Meloncon, etc. waiting in the wings. Go with the young pitching.
That’s great, Ed. Do you get to the Staten Island games? Those are the kids that I’ll see playing in Charleston in 2009. Should be an interesting year.
GB –
I did got a chance to catch the SI Yankees. A friend asked me to go since it was free. While I was at the game, I got to see Pat Venditte pitch. It was surreal seeing a pitcher switching sides when facing a left/right handed batter. this kind of stuff can’t be make up.
“Not worth it when we have Brackman, Horne, Marquez, Betances, Gerrit Cole, Bleich, Bittle, Meloncon, etc. waiting in the wings. Go with the young pitching”
I was going to point out the obvious, but, I decided to this guy ask the question :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZIvgQ9ik48
Correction–We do not have Gerritt Cole.
Nick,
In hindsight it wasn’t a great non-move, but it is what it is.
How’s that for an answer?
I still like Phil Hughes and root for him.
I will say, though, that I’d prefer to have Santana over CC.
So Isiah is claiming his daughter is a 47 yr old man?
GO RAYS!
At some point!
“Clint
October 25th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
They should have Garcia, McAllister, and De La Rosa all up. All 3 are very good pitching prospects. De La Rosa is a power lefty who is a converted position player, he tore up the SAL last year”
the person hosting the River Ave Blues live chat yesterday, mentioned he wouldn’t choose to protect, De La Rosa via the Rule 5. I don’t know why
Okay, so just as soon as I get into this “Aliens invaded my astronaut husband” movie with Charlize Theron and Johnny Depp, they cut into Kennedy & Zelasco?
Tom -
so true. I rather take a class with the Cookie Monster than acknowleding something that a person doesn’t know. lol
“mel from Taco Bell
October 25th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
I will say, though, that I’d prefer to have Santana over CC”
I like big CC. Competitor!
have to admit the same, tho.
vinny-b
October 25th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
“Clint
October 25th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
They should have Garcia, McAllister, and De La Rosa all up. All 3 are very good pitching prospects. De La Rosa is a power lefty who is a converted position player, he tore up the SAL last yearâ€
the person hosting the River Ave Blues live chat yesterday, mentioned he wouldn’t choose to protect, De La Rosa via the Rule 5. I don’t know why
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Vinny, did the guy give any rason for why he wouldn’t protect De La Rosa and whether he’s ever seen him pitch? Personally, if it was between him and Garcia, I’d trade Garcia before De La Rosa.
Probably something about not likely to be kept on a 25-man throughout the year?
“I will say, though, that I’d prefer to have Santana over CC.”
Agree 100% mel
vinny -
where you on the chat yesterday? i was.
***did the guy give any reason***
De La Rosa doesn’t need to be ‘protected’ because he is a 6 year free agent.
The only reason you add him to the 40 man is because he may want that if he re-signs with us. He isin’t rule 5 draft eligible, he is a free agent.
GB -
I’d protect Garcia AND Horne before guys like Cox and Horne.
We have so much dead weight on the 40 man anyway Duncan, Britton, Pavano, Giese, Rasner, Ponson, Betemit, Christian… plus all the FAs Pudge, Moller, Giambi, Abreu, Mussina, Pettitte etc.
Plenty of space to protect Garcia and De La Rosa.
Horne? Isn’t he out for most of next year?
Green: below is the trascript
Question From Zak
If you were given four spots to protect eligible players from the upcoming Rule 5 Draft, who would you put on the 40 man roster?
(Mike A.) Horne and Cox for sure, but after that I’m not sure. Is Wilkins DeLaRosa worth a 40-man, spot? Chris Garcia? Mike Dunn? Zack Kroenke? Not really, most of those guys would sneak through just fine.
Horne? Why in the world would you protect Horne?
And Cox is kind of pointless too considering we are loaded with relievers.
I’d rather trade those guys than Garcia. Garcia actually has ace potential if he keeps his head on straight and De La Rosa is a power lefty.
De La Rosa is a lefty who throws 95 and is a starter.
He is more valuable than about 28 of our 40 players on the roster.
Why would you keep someone like Wright or Betemit over De La Rosa or Garcia?
Ed: I went by later and checked the re-post
Horne’s shoulder is fried. He is a 26 yr old who has barely pitched in AAA. He has all kinds of arm trouble this year and his control problems re-emerged.
He had one good year in his Milb career, he has been awful the rest of the time. Not worth a 40 man roster spot.
What the heck is the music being played in the back ground?
difficult to believe, they decided to play the Rays/Phillies game.
What’s the deal with the fish music on the WS?
Ha Ha what kind of music they’re playing? FISH FISH FISH….ha ha
23 yr old Garcia > 26 yr old Horne
Power lefty starter(De La Rosa) > Soft tossing righty reliever (Cox)
I don’t know how that guy even considered Cox and Horne at the front of the list.
Feels like I’m watching Sesame Street.
With Moyer pitching, chances are this game will end at around 2 AM.
It is so we can’t hear the Phillies fans BOOING/
Someone has to know whats up with this music
This music in the background has to be the stupidest thing ever.
And why is the crowd mic turned down.
You can’t fill up 40-man spots with guys like Garcia and DeLaRosa just because. They’re still a few years away, and you’re basically forfeiting a 40-man spot until/if they make the bigs.
Horne is supposed to be ready for ST, same with Cox. They’ll actually be able to contribute next year, so teams will be more inclined to take a shot at them in the Rule 5. If someone wants to try and keep Chris Garcia on their 25 man roster all season next year, more power to them. He’ll probably get offered back before long anyway.
Appreciate you quoting my chat, btw.
Nice to see Mike Teel wake up and finally remember how to put the ball in his receivers hands. RU receivers can do great things with the ball. I can’t remember the last time we scored 54 pts against a rival although we do take care of business against Pitt.
As for the yankees- Don’t need, or want Matt Holiday. Do need a 1b that can play the position and preferably hit for power (Tex) and do need another frontline starter, always prefer a lefty (CC). As for CF, I don’t know who is a FA but I wouldn’t mind Mike Cameron but would only want him at max 2yrs.
That guitar sure is sparkly
Who is singing?
I don’t see where Cox/Horne fit into our plans.
Our bullpen is loaded— Rivera, Marte, Melancon, Sanchez, Coke, Veras, Bruney, Robertson, Edwar, Aceves,
plus guys like Dunn, Claggett, Whelan etc. in AAA
Horne is a back of the rotation starter at best with command problems, his future was always in the pen.
Rather protect Garcia and Wilkins De La Rosa as long term solutions because they have higher ceilings and are starters with power arms.
Taylor Swift is singing
So they’re starting this game so late to spare the wee Phillies fans the heartbreak?
And who the heck is this chick with the jeans and the skirt?
What kind of garbage is this? Is this a minor-league exhibition game? What are they doing? If nothing else, the Yanks need to get bacvk to the series to keep this amateur hour dreck from happening across the country! Can you imagine what the writers would be writing if this kind of opening happened in Tampa??!!!?
Taylor Swift is outstanding.
lol what the hell is this
jennifer,
TAylor Swift.
And the “Fish, fish” song was great!
Nice to see Gabe Gross in the OF.
Go Phillies!
Philly just put Tampa and the Backstreet geriatrics to shame.
Poll: Who do you prefer in CF at the start of the season?
A) Melky Cabrera (on short leash)
B) Brett Gardner
C) Write-In
Rather protect Garcia and Wilkins De La Rosa as long term solutions because they have higher ceilings and are starters with power arms.
I’d prefer to wait until they show they can pitch above A-ball, and in Garcia’s case, stay healthy for a full season.
And there’s no such thing as having too many relievers. You know a few of those guys you mentioned won’t pitch as expected, and replacements will be needed.
Not everyone needs to be a #1 starter or shutdown reliever to have value.
Mike A: you gentlemen run an excellent site.
Well, I thought that went better than the Backstreet Boys..
Between “Taylor Sift is singing” and “Taylor Swift is outstanding”, something doesn’t add up.
Thank you, vinny-b.
Jesus Montero can be a mid season callup in 2010 and leave spring training with the Yankees for the 2011 season.
Figure most of 2009 at Trenton and the rest of his minor league time at Scranton / Wilkes-Barre.
the kid (11/28/89) can mash to any part of the field.
Tony Pena will work with him extra hard this spring to get his catching fundamentals sharpened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12_MRmnJKpg
Mike,
Great site, love RAB.
I agree with you, but I really don’t see how Cox leapfrogs the likes of Melancon, Veras, Bruney, Edwar, Robertson, Coke, Sanchez etc. to help the pen. Plus he has a lower ceiling than a guy like Whelan or Dunn.
But your premise is correct, someone would take Cox over a guy like Garcia.
FOX background music is so queer. It’s sounds like the background to some poignant heartbreak country western movie and not to a championship sporting event.
Baseball’s standards have sunk beneath the service with this display tonight.
If anybody actually liked that opening, I sentence you to 10 hours of listening to:
Bob Shepard
Ronan Tynan
The Bill White Bucky Dent Home Run call
The Scooter Chris Chambliss Home Run call in ’76
If that doesn’t cure you, there’s no hope, just root for the Mets and Johan!!
ugh for the past 40 minutes I am chatting with someone god knows where to find out what is wrong with my printer. Everything he has told me to do, should have taken all of 10 minutes
I really don’t see how Cox leapfrogs the likes of Melancon, Veras, Bruney, Edwar, Robertson, Coke, Sanchez etc. to help the pen.
It’s not so much that he’s leapfrogging them, it’s just that he has to be protected from the Rule 5 at this time. They don’t have to call him up, just put him on the 40-man for now. They would still call up Melancon before Cox, I believe.
Thanks for the kind words about the site.
No way would I keep Kroenke or Cox over De La Rosa. I’d keep Garcia over them, also. NYY has a lot of young pitchers that can be used to flesh out trades, but an arm like De La Rosa isn’t one of them. There are plenty of teams that need pitchers, and relief pitchers badly and can afford to hide them on their 25 man roster. Teams like Colorado, Seattle, San Dieago, San Francisco, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee (who will be losing a large part of their rotation) all need them. Package a few of them off for a good, young minor league position player or two. I’m not talking about Cox to Colorado for Holiday or Atkins, but something that makes sense.
Starting a game at 10.00 PM?
Good thing it’s a Saturday, this game’s gonna end about 2 AM if they’re lucky.
Baseball should have just rescheduled. Between the college games and SNL, they will never get ratings tonight.
Tomorrow there is no NFL game and then they can have the week to themselves.
They’re not calling up Melancon. Anything short of a horrific ST, he’s going to make the team.
They wouldn’t start a World Series game at 10:00 PM EDT if baseball had a commissioner.
So an East Coast game starts at the same time as a West Coast game. Atleast I have something to watch when the College games are over.
Ya just gotta love those dimples!
Lucky thing there’s baseball. That OSU/Penn State game is painful.
If Horne is healthy–he had rotator cuff surgery right? Then protect him. It would be handy to have a few starters ready to go in AAA next year.
Remember that Tigers game we played that started at 11 PM after the long rain delay? It ended at 3:45 on a Carlos Guillen 3 run walkoff HR off Sean Henn in the 11th inning.
I was trying to get tickets to the game, good thing I couldn’t.
I so don’t care about Moyer’s first game and Steve Carlton.
YAWN!
Does Selig realize how embarrassing his opening ceremonies have been?
“They wouldn’t start a World Series game at 10:00 PM EDT if baseball had a commissioner”
Heyman talked about good Ole W. being commissioner someday. Of course his first order would be to invade the NFL….
The atmosphere in Philly is electric. Much better than in Tampa. This actually looks like a WS game.
no way does a RAYS PHILLIES game with MOYER pitching starting at 10pm beat out a tight PENN STATE OHIO STATE game with national title hopes on the line. I bet more people in PA are watching the football
People at work were telling me that Sux tickets for the 4th and 5th games in craptown were selling at face value and were still available the day of the game. They blamed it on the economy. Question: does anyone believe that postseason tickets at the Stadium would have gone begging under the same circumstances? I don’t. I think it’s because the craptown “faithful”, the same ones that made their way to the exits in all of the craptown games, aren’t as faithful as they would lead you to believe. I think they saw the handwriting on the wall and decided to stay home.
Talk about frontrunners.
“Between “Taylor Sift is singing†and “Taylor Swift is outstandingâ€, something doesn’t add up.”
I think she’s pretty outstanding. Being 18 years old and all and going out in front of a crowd like that on national TV and already having a top 20 billboard hot 100 hit under her belt, I would call that impressive at the least. After all, we always seem to find it impressive when 23 year old baseball players, which we call “kids” do things, so an 18 year old girl doing something like that is more impressive to me.
The game will start to pick up steam after the college games are over. Still won’t beat SNL though.
But this Penn st. game is ugly.
Sesame Street on ice is in Philadelphia tonight?
OT
Wow that Arkansas anchorwoman died. I really thought she was going to make it.
didn’t see the pre-game actvities: what made it embarassing ?
DFox: so you like her, then? I take it all back.
It was fox’s fault. They played Sesame Street like music when the Rays were introduced.
What are they chanting?
Ohio State up 6-3
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Eva
Was it the ballpark or FOX playing the Fishy Fish music? I thought it was the ballpark. I was like, “Wow, that’s classy.”
They’re chanting “EVA”
HA-HA EVA, instead of Evan. Love the Philly fans.
It was fox. I’m pretty sure of it.
Longoria is phenomenal and he is promising to be an incredible player. But is there something in the 3rd baseman’s oath that says you become more and more unclutch as the postseason progresses?????
Philly fans are just precious.
Who is Taylor Swift? Has pop music passed me by?
loving the Eva chants
Or asked another way, is Arod Evan Longoria’s favorite player?
Trisha, the economy really is that bad. Or did you not see the empty seats behind home plate the last week of the season for the Yankees?
“DFox: so you like her, then? I take it all back.”
That I do. Listen to her song “Our Song”. Great song.
Rebecca, there is a huge difference between the postseason and the regular season. By the way, I didn’t see any empty seats at the Trop, nor have I seen them yet in Philly. But even that isn’t the point. I doubt that if the Yankees were in the postseason that there would be empty seats in the Stadium, economy notwithstanding.
I guess the crowd noise bothers Garza, you’d think those stupid cow bells would bother him in Tampa than?
Baseball waits 2 hours late. How many viewers will lose interest and not even know the game was played until tommorow.
jennifer: noticed he went with earplugs, in FL
Isn’t this Matt “Big Game” Garza?
jen, I bet the cowbells in Tampa are almost like white noise to the Tampa players. They are so used to hearing them that’s it’s probably not a bother. Go to another venue and all of a sudden you are hearing “odd” noise, if you know what I mean!
vinny- I didn’t notice. Now we know how to get to him, when he pitches at YS.
vinny-b, good catch. I forgot all about the earplugs.
Garza needs to take notes from James “Big Game” Shields?
Like Matt “big Game” Garza.
The Phillies MUST score at least 2 runs now. Otherwise I designate them Yankees JR.
Philly fans are into everything. This is more like a post season game.
Phillies should have been looking to go up 3-0 in the series. Too many wasted opportunities in game 2.
Whoa! A run!
Garza has no control what-so-ever.
what-up Trisha
go Rays
jen, absolutely re: Garza. Let’s see. He has a little trouble in the first inning of a world series game, the first ws he’s ever been in. Guess he must stink, hey?
Cripes.
Well, at least they got one.
Moyer needs to pitch well because Garza’s going to settle down.
Damn
Garza was tremendous in keeping it under control there.
Usually pays to wait at least until the end of the first inning to make universal pronouncements on a pitcher!
Phillies of the Yankee JR. One run with runners on second and third and Garza with zero control.
Hey vinny-b! I’m actually waiting out 11:30 to see whether Tina Fey is going to be on SNL! Then I’ll turn back to the game. Usually if she is on it’s part of the opening.
trisha no one said he stinks, only joked that all they were doing was calling Shields a big game pitcher, so we did the same for Garza.
Penn State jus recovered a fumble. It sound like Brent Musburger is sick/under the weather.
If I had to guess I would think that Moyer will end up blowing up, only because I think he is pretty much over the hill.
Crawford. What an athlete.
Can PSU get a TD here?
Yeah, good idea to get the game in. What a total joke. It’s October 25th and this is the third game. The series should be over by now.
jen, I misunderstood your post! I didn’t see the post before yours, and I thought you were saying you liked Matt Garza!! (“Like Matt “big game” Garza”).
So I was agreeing with what I thought you were saying, that is, I do like Garza.
10-6 Penn St
and they do!
Why is Gabe Gross a lefty playing instead of Rocco
I saw the earplugs, too.
Really hate those bud commercials.
Ugh. That commercial was even worse.
Texas Tech may have a little something waiting for Texas, next week
WHAT A PLAY!
Defense overrated? Never in my book!
Good job Ruiz!!
I guess Garza forgot the pitcher was up next. How do you give the #8 hitter anything to hit?
Well, I’m rooting for Philly.
Ruiz is the new Matt Stairs
I just found the winner of “The Most Obvious Headline Ever” contest.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....626.column
Why even write that story?
Sitting with the daughter and I tell her that Ruiz is going to hit a homerun. And she’s like, “Really? Way to spoil it.” thinking I saw it on the computer first.
So I told her, “No, I’m calling it.”
Ruiz is the one guy who’s been on fire for the whole post-season.
dave
October 25th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Brian Hoch at Bombers beat says:
“Cashman has already said he’s not pursuing a free agent catcher, so Pudge will play elsewhere in ‘09 while the Yankees cross their fingers on Jorge Posada’s health (Moeller could return on a Minor League deal to add depth).â€
Ummm are you kidding me????? Talk about not learning from past mistakes. This is the one position, we absolutely need a legitimate backup for. Noone knows what the future holds for posada but it is almost a guaranteed fact that he will be injured at some point during his next couple of yrs in pinstripes. Also, how much longer can he even stay our catcher? One yr, two yrs at full time? I dunno where they get their information from but I pray cash is smarter than that. We absolutely need as a requirement a legit backup catcher for the next couple of seasons and moeller wont cut it. To me, this isnt even a question or a debate – its just fact.
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carrying 3 catchers is a waste especially them being slow.
you can call one up if needed from the minors.
if posada gets hurt or molina then you make a move3 but to carry 3 catchers means you lose a position player or pitcher on the roster,not smart.
J Rollins 47/50 stolen bases
dayyum. I can’t even do that, on PS2
dayyum. I can’t even do that, on PS2
lol, i could. hahas.
Can Santa steal us Upton for Christmas?
Should the Yankees sign this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Crunch time in the Horse Shoe.
“Joe is excited” — was he awake?
OYF – that’s a riot! It does look like the pitcher framed the pitch, however!!!
I think Joe Buck’s review of “24: Redemption” was objective.
Just found this video from the last game of Mussina.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Nick in SF
October 25th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
I think Joe Buck’s review of “24: Redemption†was objective.
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I object to anything Joe Buck does. He wouldn’t have a job if it wasn’t for his father….though, he wasn’t anymore of a favorite of mine than the Careys and Vin Scully.
I object to anything Joe Buck does. He wouldn’t have a job if it wasn’t for his father….
–
To Buck’s credit, he’s admitted as much.
PSU WINS! This campus is going crazy!
Nick, I finally replied to your email. I’m slow.
George Constanza gave the rookie Derek Jeter batting advice. lol
I don’t ever want Posada putting on a first baseman’s mitt full time. It would be a disaster. Bank on it.
whew!
LOL !
Nice! 3-1 Phillies
wassup brandon? what’s funny? lol
Moyer tongue out then Utley HR
back to back home runs!!!!
Back to Back and a Belly to Belly
4-1 Phillies
Uhoh …don’t want him gaining confidence.
Moyer tongue out then Utley HR
go figure. lol hahas!
Nice, go Philly.
Wow we’re calling strikes there now ?
Yep, this ump has a wide strike zone tonight.
Hawaii-Nevada getting underway out in paradise…
who pitching X ?
I meant the college game lol
HWL starts at 1… not Brackman today, he went the 21st. He goes tomorrow.
Oh com’on on effort alone you have to give him that play !
WOW AWFUL CALL!! HE WAS SO OUT!! SO IT LIVE! BLIND AS A BAT UMP. OF COURSE HE IS OUT OF POSTION>
horrible positioning by the ump plus the blown call
lets go phillies!
they need to create robotic umps soon, this is getting out of hand
steve, it will eventually all be done with sensors and lasers. And yes, robots.
jennifer
October 26th, 2008 at 12:17 am
WOW AWFUL CALL!! HE WAS SO OUT!! SO IT LIVE! BLIND AS A BAT UMP. OF COURSE HE IS OUT OF POSTION>
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On plays like that one, the umpire watches the bag and tries to pick up the sounds of ball to glove and foot hitting bag. The ball was in the bare hand and no sound except the foot hitting bag. Bad call, but, the ump can’t watch both spots. Just my guess, though.
And the blown call leads to a rally.
bullpen time
More runs, please.
Still was an awful call. He could also see that Howard moved his arm back out of the baseline, and that the ball was in his hand.
Still unacceptable in my opinion.
Oy..
With apologies to Hawaii fans, go Wolfpack.
go phillies!
The only way that the ump can see the foot and the ball at the same tim e is to stand in the same line that Moyer was throwing the ball in. Bad call, yes, but, the ump wasn’t out of position.
Wow those two pitches were strikes for Garza, why so inconsistant ? ….Nevermind.
YES!!! Now Go Phillies!
Oh god, enough with the GBA already.
No one beats Ronan. I miss Ronan.
Ok. now lets get some runs!!
That was horrible…I had turn the volume down.
Oh I’m getting my free Taco trust me.
Careful or the free taco will get you.
C’mon Rays!
Now steal 3rd!
crap
FINALLY we will get an over, or at least a push.
Wow. The problems that a little speed on the basepaths can create for a defense. Too bad for Moyer, he deserved the W.
Gardner, please learn to hit better so you can do stuff like that for us.
This is just awful. Get it back together Phillies!! Do you think they took Moyer out too soon?
Walkoff for Philly.
Tie game?
How the heck did that happen?
Guess I should take a break from writing every so often.
Nick a bookie is gonna get you first if you don’t watch it
“How the heck did that happen?”
Upton beat out an infield single. Stole 2nd, 3rd, and turned invisible and stole home.
Yes, congrats to Jamie Moyer, he really impressed me. Who would have thought we’d see a quality performance from a pitcher of his age:
http://tinyurl.com/46zazy
Man. We shudda traded for Upton like three years ago. Or something.
This is a great game
Too bad its at 1 AM
I knew that one was coming.
Thx NinSF
Rebecca you joking right ?
Manager of the year
3 years ago we should have offered them Clippard, Cox, TJ Beam, and Desalvo. They needed all the pitching they could get, we could have pulled off a 4 for 1 type deal.
A-Rod, I actually think they left Moyer in too long. They should have just taken the 6 innings and run.
He was pitching a gem, but you have to figure they would figure out his slop eventually. Maybe have Durbin to start the 7th.
He never was on the trade market, Carl Crawford was not BJ Upton
Where’s the person that thought I was drunk for saying Howell was the Rays’ MVP?
Fox crew just repeating what Hickey said.
He never was on the trade market, Carl Crawford was not BJ Upton
is it too late to trade for Crawford?
lol
smart play by Werth and Utley.
HWL game rained out.
I never knew it rained in Hawaii.
You learn something new everyday!
Gardner, please learn to hit better so you can do stuff like that for us.
that happened before to the Yanks. Remember Justin Christian causing the Angels 3 errors while stealing 2nd and 3rd base, then scoring a run?
is it too late to trade for Crawford? lol
This was around the time people put Matsui on a pedestal and didn’t understand the need to get younger. Yeh it’s very late. Howell’s breaking ball is sick I hope Coke learns to get his like that.
Utley Utley, why you swung at that!!!
Howell’s breaking ball is sick I hope Coke learns to get his like that.
Coke and Howell need to get together immediately after the World Series.
Werth is some baserunner huh?
what a dope
what were you thin….?
Howell will get out Howard
Balfour will get out Bruntlett
Lidge will blow his first save, Rays will win in the botto mof the 9th.
yikes
Of course it rains in Hawaii. Haven’t you ever seen Lost?
Phillies will win this walkoff style. Lidge ain’t blowing this game.
I don’t know you win having an inning like that. First the Upton play in the top 1\2 and the chaos in the bottom of the inning.
That blown call is looming large.
Come on Phillies, don’t let these young upstarts steal your championship.
Could I exchange my free Taco for a Steak Quesadilla instead if I pay the difference?
Brandon, y cuanto tiempo a me conoces?
Can we please have another TB bullpen choke?
Es “no me” Rebecca
y verdad.
Arod fan Howell couldn’t take the pressure in Fenway there is no way he takes it in (see like I said) Philly
Get him home somehow
Props to the Philly fans for not leaving the park even though its 1:30 AM.
Even if Victorino bunts.. They’ll intentionally walk Feliz and then Carlos Ruiz and the pitchers spot is due up.
Maybe Victorino should just try and hit one in the gap instead.
brandon: Bah, I’m tired and don’t feel well. Entonces mi español no es bueno.
They sure picked the worst time to play the best game of the series… 1:40 AM on a Saturday night.
Still exciting though
HOLY PLAY
ooooohhhhh
It was raining cats and dogs in Philly and those fans have not left for nearly about 5-7 hours for some. By the way Balfour is not the guy I would put …(see like I said) here either.
GO Phillie GOOOO!!!
payback is swwwwwwwweeeeeeeet.
Sloppy, Rays, very sloppy.
Price is the only guy you can trust.
WOW, what was that lol
Balfour cant even hit a pitchout target.
No no nono no , you better pitch to Dobbs a pray for a DP because Rollins will end this game w/ the basesloaded.
Philly fans will just head over to Lincoln Financial Field after this game ends and get an early start on tailgating for the Eagles game tomorrow afternoon.
a 5 man infield? If Balfour doesn’t lose focus, this might be crazy enough to work.
This game is so over.
They got to load the bases there to set up the force at home…
Xman, that’s not a bad way to spend a weekend.
How does a team with no closer make it all the way to the WS?
that is true, who do you call a 5th IFer? a 2nd/short man?
wild pitch inc
Yeah, Balfour’s locked in…
It will be funny if they hit a shallow pop up to right not deep enough to score the winning run) and nobody is there to catch it.
Pressure for Balfour not good.
Just walk in the winning run
the Rays do know Ruiz is a hot hitter right now?
Bronx Jeers: Improvisation
The Yanks could go with 6 infielders if Gardner was playing in the OF.
It will be funny if they hit a shallow pop up to right not deep enough to score the winning run) and nobody is there to catch it.
indeed that will be.
Why are you swinging????? Just wait for him to hit you or throw a wild pitch!
“who do you call a 5th IFer? a 2nd/short man?”
Key grip.
…and the Phillies won!
YES! Go Phillies!
WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!
…I dunno where they were trying to throw that, but it wasn’t Home Plate.
..like I said, Ruiz is the Phillies hottest hitter right now.
would have rolled foul
Rebecca – he was trying to throw it to the 5th infielder.
Key grip.
lol, Nick.
Navarro should have blocked the plate and body-checked him to the ground until someone got the ball in.
Did that groundball by Ruiz look like it was going foul?
Did that groundball by Ruiz look like it was going foul?
Yep it did, Longoria didn’t want to risk it which its understandable.
They should have placed the 5th infielder along the 3rd base line.
ya i thought it was going foul too
Where is Bruntlett’s Blue Ox?
he goes 5 man infield and leaves balfour in. i dont understand that.
harwood,
So you saw the same thing. Instincts take over.
Didn’t matter. You had at least 2 chances to get a guy in.
Switching to football mode.
And yes, it is raining here.
I like Upton… he is a plucky, gritty player like Pedroyer.
We need players like that.
“harwood,
So you saw the same thing. Instincts take over.”
yeh hes still young. over anxious. Arod lets that ball roll.
I have to say I was impressed by Moyer today. Looked like a different pitcher than the last 2 starts.
Hope Moose watches the replay. Doubt he’s up this late.
Maybe that’ll get Moose’s juices going. Trip to the WS.
harwood,
With A-rod’s luck, that ball rolls to and stops dead in its tracks at the line.
Feels good man, however matt stairs should have been the hero
We need players like that.
He was a first round top 10 pick how do you want to do this ?
I will be in NBA mode shortly. That is, until Jamal Crawford goes 4-24 from the field and we lost by 30 to the Charlotte Bobcats at home. Then I will cry.
2 more wins until Hot Stove
All of ARods on field decisions are guided by the light of Kaballah.
Where is the postgame with Zalasko, Luis Gonzalez, and Kevin Kennedy? Why did they leave without postgame analysis? Are they in bed already?
That is, until Jamal Crawford goes 4-24 from the field and we lost by 30 to the Charlotte Bobcats at home.
Jamal might make this a quick season.
“I will be in NBA mode shortly. That is, until Jamal Crawford goes 4-24 from the field and we lost by 30 to the Charlotte Bobcats at home. Then I will cry.”
I have faith that D’antoni will bench anyone who jacks up 35 footers or over dribbles so I’d say Jamal is on borrowed time.
We survived last winter, we’ll survive this one.
At least this time we’ll know how to respond to Bobcat’s posts.
How can you knock the throw? a perfect throw might not have had him. And you are gonna risk a world series game ending while you wait for a ball to possibly go foul? Please, there was nothing he could do there.
I loved Howard’s comment that he thought the Rays were going to Blitz! Priceless.
By how can you knock the throw, I mean, what the heck was he supposed to do there?
Zalasko doesn’t go to bed, she goes into sleep mode.
The curse of Cervelli strikes Tampa.
How does a team with no closer make it all the way to the WS?
because closer is overrated. You can’t have a save unless you have a lead. And save rules are BS. A three-run lead to pitch the ninth inning with nobody on base? Big deal.
Aardvark
October 26th, 2008 at 1:53 am
I like Upton… he is a plucky, gritty player like Pedroyer.
We need players like that.
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A “Plucky, gritty player” doesn’t jog down the first base line when he grounds out.
Steve Phillips – “He (Moyer) proved everyone wrong, including myself”.
A lot of people prove you wrong, Steve.
I have faith that D’antoni will bench anyone who jacks up 35 footers
Really
A more experienced 3B might have let that ball roll foul (look at the replay), no throw was going to get Paul Bunyan who broke on contact.
But nobody’s getting down on Longoria because bases loaded, no outs, Phillies gonna score one. It’s not like it was the Yankees or anything.
“I have faith that D’antoni will bench anyone who jacks up 35 footers
Really
”
Well only if they don’t go in I guess.
Al – True. Pringles already benched Curry, I suspect Crawford is on borrowed time as well.
Hopefully Lee, Robinson, Chandler, Ewing Jr, Gallinari get minutes rather than the likes of Crawford and Curry.
Knicks need to play Marbury and Randolph a lot—- They are their best players. They have made all-star teams before and been in the playoffs.
LOL !
hank hal,
I agree. I don’t know why people are in such a rush to discard ZBo and Marbury, they are the most talented players on our awful team. With them we atleast have a chance at the 8th seed.
Knicks need to play Marbury and Randolph a lot—- They are their best players.
you talking Marbury and Randolph that can’t play the under pressure during last 5 mins of the 4th quarter? I seen alot of those last season.
O Line– I think that guy was being sarcastic
I LOL again. Towelbury and ZRo our only hope tells you how bad the squad is. Meanwhile w/o the bench players the Knicks aren’t squat.
LOL isin’t this sad
mel gets to talk about Kobe, Bynum, Farmar, Odom, and a title contender.
Ed and Rebecca have a great young team with a bright future and players like Yi, Harris, Lopez, Area 52 etc.
And the rest of us have to cling to Curry vs. Crawford debates
The most inspiring thing that the “leader” of our team has ever said was:
“Are you gonna get in the truck?”
And the other leader said
“I am innocent. I am VERY innocent.”
About sums it up.
AZ Four,
have you been reading my posts secretly knowing that I’m a Nets fan? lol
I LOL again. Towelbury and ZRo our only hope tells you how bad the squad is. Meanwhile w/o the bench players the Knicks aren’t squat.
I concur. Marbury and Randolph are chockers.
AZ,
I don’t get to talk about them with anybody. People here hate the Lakers. Although, how can you hate the Jersey Boy, Bynum?
If the Lakers tick him off by not extending him before Friday, maybe he’ll head home in a couple of years?
I do cheer for the Knicks, though. They occupy a tiny corner of my heart since the Riley/Ewing days.
chokers*
ed, haha I skim through some of the threads especially the overnight ones to see if there was anything interesting. I happen to catch that a couple days ago, there was an NBA discussion and everyone stated their teams.
Chokers? Chuckers? Either way.
Lakers: booooooooooo.
AZ Four -
lol hahas, I gotcha. No problemo.
Nick,
How’d you do on that USC game?
NFL games start too early
I had U$C teased down to -2, I did ok.
I laughed when people were calling for the upset of USC, but it almost happened.
Anyone watching this Hawaii game? It’s on espn in the whole country except here where it’s ppv.
I was surprised it was that close and that low-scoring. Arizona is tougher than people seem to give them credit for. I learned that the hard way last week. But the Cal game and the Oregon game both went as I expected, so it was a good day for my Pac-10 prognosticating.
ESPN is showing me some Nascar race, and I don’t know exactly why.
Was rather disappointed with the PSU win, obviously The Ohio State was not on the “Get USC to the Title Game” bandwagon.
It is absolutely fascinating to find so many Pinstripe Bleeders (I am one of them) as evidenced by the postings on this and many other boards; especially when the organization, across the board (ownership, executive management,general manager, field manager and staff, player personnel, minor league structure and personnel etc, ad nauseum), has spiralled down to mediocrity over the past 6 years so dramatically (by Yankee standards, not teams in general). It reminds me of the late 60′s. The give and take as to which free agent should be pursued or shunned yields a diversity of opinion, which is refreshing. It is sound, however, if it is consistent with mine, which is as follows:
Yay…. Tex and CC
Nay…. Manny, AJ, Lowe
My mistake, it’s on ESPN Gameplan.
I’m not on that bandwagon either, but I did want them to win today. Shameful but true.
Penn St, in the national title game would be a travesty. they are a product of their schedule/coference
USC, LSU, Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, Alabama, Florida etc… basically all of the upper echelon teams from the SEC and Big 12 would wipe the floor with Penn state.
Have they not learned anything from Ohio’s embarrassment in the title game these past 2 years?
Nick,
Ah. Now I understand. Your team is the Benjamin$.
Today that was the case with U$C, yes. They could have a good shot, they don’t really have any tough games remaining on their schedule; Cal is probably their toughest opponent left and that’s in LA and… well, it remains to be seen whether Cal will even be tough.
Maybe one of the other games will be a trap, who knows. The computers won’t like SC that much. An undefeated Penn St. and the champs from the SEC and Big 12 should all be ranked higher. Pending further developments.
yeh hes still young. over anxious. Arod lets that ball roll.
harwood…are you mental? if longoria tries to let that go foul and it remains fair, he’d get KILLED for it. i commend him for trying. i’m rooting for the phils, but jesus lay off
Yes. Over covers…
i love taylor i wish i could go 2 her concert