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Hal Steinbrenner in town

Peter Abraham
November
11

I’m off to 33rd Street this morning for a press conference at the Cisco offices. The Yankees will be announcing “new fan-facing technologies to be featured at the new Yankee Stadium.”

Wow, new faces for fans. I wonder if that hurts?

I’m more interested in attending because Hal Steinbrenner will be there and I’d like to get his take on what the team needs and where he sees the franchise going. I’ll update the blog with what I find out, so check back later.

This entry was posted on Tuesday, November 11th, 2008 at 7:14 am by Peter Abraham.
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27 Responses to “Hal Steinbrenner in town”

  1. GreenBeret7

    I’d be more interested in when they plan to talk with Pettitte, Mussina and Abreu.

  2. Tom

    Here’s a more in depth explanation:

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10093445-94.html

  3. Vader

    Pete,

    Working on a Holiday? You’re a tireless worker, I hope your employer appreciates all of your hard work, because I sure do and I’m sure there are others that do too.

    When the time comes for you to move on, which I hope isn’t for a long time, the people they interview will say, you don’t want to be the beat reporter that replaces Pete Abe…you want to be the one who replaces the next guy. Keep up the good work.

  4. Viper

    From the previous thread…..

    No doubt Holliday is going to get traded again – probably before the season starts.

    There have been a lot of legitimate questions about Holliday’s ability to hit away from Coors and now he’s going to be dropped into a tougher league and a much larger yard in his walk year?

    That’s a lot of pressure for someone who has never played under that kind of heat. Not saying he’s not up for the task – but it’s a big risk for Beane if he wants a maximum return.

    I fail to see the genius of this move just yet and I would have to assume he’s not going to play a single game for Oakland because I don’t think Beane will want to risk Holliday’s trade value going down.

    I don’t know – a new league with better pitchers? A bigger ballpark to play his home games?

    I doubt we ever see Holliday wear that new A’s uniform on the field.

  5. Vader

    This sounds like what the Patriots wanted to do at Gillette, but I had read somewhere that they couldn’t do it do to the cold temperatures and the processors.

  6. Vader

    Good point, they may move him to the Cardinals, but if he stays and produces, he will land himself a huge contract. For some reason, ballplayers always know when they are in a contract year.

  7. TurnTwo

    Holliday isnt going anywhere right now. Billy Beane thinks he has a shot, and word has it he’s got room to add to the payroll for the 2009 season, so he’s prob not done yet, either.

    it was prob said a million times last night, but id imagine it would be the case; Beane will play out the 2009 season and take the picks at the end of the year when Holliday bolts for the cash, or if the A’s are out at the midseason mark, and Holliday proves to be a worthy trading chip, Beane will turn him around then for a package of prospects.

    all this is good news for yankees fans, because this all but assures Holliday will hit the open market at the same time that Damon and Matsui’s contracts come off the books.

  8. murphydog

    “Fan-facing technologies.” Sounds promising.

    IMO, this is the kind of thing Hal brings to the table being young, bright and business minded. A Williams College undergrad and a University of Florida MBA holder, he’s got some pretty good academics to temper that “win now” DNA. Thus, maybe it’s his orientation and approach, rather than his lack of lengthy baseball experience to date, that bodes well for the future.

    Speaking of the future, can’t wait to see the new park and what it can do. I wonder if anyone has taken a guess at “park effects” of the new place? As for dimensions, it’s still a big park to center and left, but the new design surrounding the field will have some effect on how the ball travels, no?

  9. Viper

    all this is good news for yankees fans, because this all but assures Holliday will hit the open market at the same time that Damon and Matsui’s contracts come off the books.

    Holliday would be hitting the open market regardless of what transpired yesterday.

    He’s an elite player and his agent is Boras. Those guys always go on the open market when it’s time to get paid.

  10. Fran

    I want to hear Hal’s take since it seems that he controls the money, but it would be much more fun if Hank was going to be there!

  11. raymagnetic

    If there’s a better deal out there for Holliday why didn’t the Rockies just make that deal with the other team? Doesn’t make sense to me that Beane could somehow get more for Holliday than he gave up.

  12. TurnTwo

    “Holliday would be hitting the open market regardless of what transpired yesterday.

    He’s an elite player and his agent is Boras. Those guys always go on the open market when it’s time to get paid.”

    not necessarily. Holliday actually wanted to stay and sign an extention in Colorado, but they wouldnt give him the years and the no-trade he desired… but he admited that he would have taken less, but close to fair market value, to guarantee his family some security.

  13. Dirk from Rockland

    raymagnetic–
    if there is a way– its always been who finds it

  14. Tom

    Ray, good point. People just assume that Beane is going to magically flip Holliday for a much better deal. As if some GM will all of the sudden look at Holliday differently because he’s an Athletic.

  15. Dirk from Rockland

    **Beane that finds it. He is always one step ahead when it comes to squeezing another team.

  16. TurnTwo

    “Doesn’t make sense to me that Beane could somehow get more for Holliday than he gave up.”

    the only thing i could really think of is different player evaluation from organization to organization.

    maybe Beane looks at a team like the Yankees or Mets and sees a prospect he really wants, and then looks at his roster and realizes he doesnt have a player to get the other prospect.

    for example, maybe he loves Fernando Martinez, but knows that the only players that the Mets want from him dont allow him to fetch Fernando Martinez in return.

    so he goes out to get a stud player the Mets have interest in so he can spin that player then to NY for the real prospect he wanted all along.

    **disclaimer: i dont think this is what he’s doing, just that it might be one way it would go down if Holliday wasnt in Oakland to start the season.

  17. Time to "Go John Galt"

    Beane could package Holliday to get a larger return. As to Beane building a team that can win, he had that last season, then traded away the chance. While he might not have surpassed all in the post season, till he blew it up, the team was going really well and had a shot to do far better than they did.

  18. William Buckner

    “Doesn’t make sense to me that Beane could somehow get more for Holliday than he gave up.”

    I thought the same thing. If the A’s put him back on the market, teams may not give up as much, especially once the season starts.

    Due to his impending FA, I don’t really get this move from the A’s point of view, unless they plan on keeping him through the year and making a playoff run.

  19. #9

    Angels seem to be cooling on Tex…

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/.....6850.story

    The Angels hold exclusive negotiating rights to Mark Teixeira until midnight Thursday, but they are not expected to make an offer to the free-agent first baseman by then, and it could be days, or even a week or two, before they bid on the slugger.

    By no means is that a reflection of the Angels’ interest in retaining Teixeira, who is their top priority this winter; it’s simply a negotiating tactic they will likely take in pursuit of a premier player who will be in high demand once he hits the open market Friday.

    Agent Scott Boras, who represents Teixeira, has apparently made it clear to the Angels that his client plans to test the market, regardless of any offer the Angels make during the 15-day window in which they hold exclusive negotiating rights.

    Teixeira, 28, is expected to draw heavy interest from the New York Yankees, Baltimore Orioles, Boston Red Sox and Washington Nationals, and he will likely command a deal between five and 10 years in length for at least $20 million a year.

  20. vinny-b (Hank Blalock for 1st base)

    turn two:

    if this is the case, wouldn’t Beane/Rockies/3rd team, engaged in a 3-way trade?

  21. TurnTwo

    “if this is the case, wouldn’t Beane/Rockies/3rd team, engaged in a 3-way trade?”

    perhaps Beane didnt want the Rockies to know what Ace he had up his sleeve?

    idk, i’m just speaking in a hypothetical here. i dont think this will actually be the case; i think Holliday will stay in Oakland.

    i’m just trying to think of a situation that could arise where Holliday is with another new team come February.

  22. TurnTwo

    “Angels seem to be cooling on Tex…”

    that doesnt sound like cooling to me.

  23. Trevor

    Now you have some who want Holliday next year when he’s a FA? We’re likely getting Sabathia which is going to be a big contract. Some want Texeira and some want Burnett which is going to be a somewhat big contract.
    I don’t see the Yankees once again accumulating big contracts. If you sign all those players that’s what you would be doing. It’s no different then signing every name player that they did from 2000-2007. They’re trying to break away from that.
    If there’s no Texeira this year and the Yankees go cheap at first then I can see Holliday next year. but if there is Texiera then there is no Holliday. IMO
    I see more of the former happening.

  24. miggs

    It makes no sense for Beane to trade some of his top prospects for Holliday only to hold him for a year to get 2 draft picks.

    Anyone that follows the A’s organization knows that isn’t how they work. The prospects they are giving up will be way more valuable than 2 picks.

    Also, no way they sign him after next year. Therefore, the only logical conclusion is that Beane will probably package Holliday along with someone else for players that he really wants.

    It makes sense to do this before the season starts, as Holliday’s stock will plummet once he isn’t hitting in Coors anymore, especially if he stays in the AL.

    Holliday is like Peavy, another overhyped player whose success is more a reflection of their environment rather than their true ability.

    Some poster before called Holliday a superstar. I wonder if that’s Boras, because while he’s a good player, superstar is hardly the word I’d use to describe him.

  25. pat

    #9

    The Angels understand how Boras operates. They will engage once other teams have. For them to tip their hand as to a contract offer when they know he’s going to test the market anyway would be just stupid negotiating on their part.

  26. saucY

    thanks for the link Tom.

    “allow fans at the park to use handheld devices to watch replays, keep score, and purchase tickets and concessions”

    maybe i’m just getting old, but it seems like a little much. still need more details to decide though.

  27. saucY

    “Working on a Holiday?”

    this is one of those holidays that only garbage men and government employees get. it’s more obscure than columbus day…

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