Hal: We’re ready for free agency
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OK, quite a bit of news to get to. We’ll categorize it:
Baseball: Hal Steinbrenner said that there have not yet been negotiations with Andy Pettitte. But he expects that there will be. … Hal said the organization will be ready for the start of free agency on Friday. He would not reveal any details about payroll. “We’re going to do what we’ve always done and that’s field a team that can compete for the championship,” he said. … I asked him about getting personally involved with free agents and he said that he planned to, after stressing that Brian Cashman’s job is to negotiate the deal. But Steinbrenner expressed an interest in getting to know the key agents. Steinbrenner that as far as incorporating young players from the farm system goes, “the goal is balance.”
You sort of get the impression with Hal that he would rather he someplace else. He clearly doesn’t enjoy the media give-and-take or being the public face of ownership. But he understands his duty to his father and he’s doing his best to carry it out. He met with Cashman yesterday and will again today. Hal is clearly the guy shouldering the responsibilities.
The new Stadium: The team will start to move into their offices in mid January, the 16th or 23rd. Lonn Trost said that the Stadium is 12.5 days ahead of schedule and is now now built beyond the point of bad weather being a factor. In other words, everything now is being done inside. The last part of the field to get done is the mound, which will be built this weekend. … The Metro North Station is expected to be done by the third homestand. … The Yankees have seven suites they haven’t sold yet, which is a result of the slumping economy.
The new technology: The Cisco people are very sharp and gave a great presentation. The 1,100 flat screen, HD monitor around the Stadium can be individually programmed with real-time stats, traffic information, weather, etc. The entire Stadium will have high-speed wireless. The long-range plan is that once we’re all toting around smart phones, you can use that to access concessions stands, merchandise, get highlights, stats, chat, etc.
From my standpoint, it’s a great thing. I can envision this blog community incorporating a lot of that technology and the social networking aspects pulling in people at the Stadium. I’ll bet in a few years the Yankees will have an in-house blog to foster their own network.
The Cisco people stressed that the Yankees are way ahead of the curve with this stuff. No stadium in North America will be more advanced in terms of delivering video to fans. It’ll start in the suites and spread to the seats in time. There is $17 million worth of wiring and other hardware in the Stadium.
The other interesting feature they showed us was telepresence, a highly advanced video conference system. Not to do a commercial for Cisco here, but it was like you’re actually in the room with people across the country. The Yankees will use this to communicate between the Bronx and Tampa. They also plan to install it in Bronx libraries, schools and hospitals so players and team officials can talk directly to kids.
I’ll have some more later on, including some audio from Steinbrenner and Trost.
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Peter Abraham
If the Yankees don’t get Sabathia, I will cry like a girl who’s just had her ears removed
Prince Hal and Falstaff. That’s who the Steinbrenner brothers are….
Technology is great isn’t it? I love how they’re going to have a Jetson like meeting room in the stadium beaming them in with the Tampa guys.
7 unsold suites! No CC for you! Sidney Ponson, keep your phone turned on!
Great reportage, Pete. The earlier post about the press conference made me think that you’d merely get Lil’ Stein to say something typical. But the tech aspect (particularly as it assists this Blog) will be great for NYY fans (like me) who are physically far from The Bronx.
Show CC the money Hal
“You sort of get the impression with Hal that he would rather he someplace else. He clearly doesn’t enjoy the media give-and-take or being the public face of ownership. But he understands his duty to his father and he’s doing his best to carry it out. He met with Cashman yesterday and will again today. Hal is clearing the guy shouldering the responsibilities.”
Could it be any plainer that this team needs new ownership?
No he just doesn’t like media which explains why Hank is the speaker, we said it for sometime Hal is the guy behind the curtains running the show Hank is the hypeman.
Why are they playing with Pettitte? We need starters, he can still function at the back end, he wants to come back, get it done!!!!!
That will be one less thing to deal with, so why are they dragging?
“He says Nick Johnson, if healthy, figures to be trade bait now that the Nats have Willingham.”
I’d do it.
i don’t think they’re playing with Pettitte. they just have bigger fish to fry, and i’m sure Pettitte knows this…
we have Telepresence in the office – amazing advancements from the old videoconferencing…
“That will be one less thing to deal with, so why are they dragging?”
Maybe so they don’t end up paying him $16 million again by making it clear that they desperately need him in the back of the rotation? It’s all a stall tactic to cement that paycut that’s inevitable for Andy.
The hospitals and doctors in New York and Tampa will be glad to have Nick Johnson on the Yankees in 2009, filling the void in business created by Carl Pavano (god hopefully) signing elsewhere.
““That will be one less thing to deal with, so why are they dragging?—
Maybe their waiting to hear what Mussina’s plans are….
Not sure why they aren’t doing the deal with Andy. I’m sure he knows that he needs to take a pay cut.
I’m sorry to hear that the boys don’t enjoy owning the Yankees as much as their father did. Look for them to sell the team once he passes on.
As for CC, we’ll see. Still not convinced that the wants to come here (I also don’t know for sure that he doesn’t either), but you know what they say – money can be a great motivator.
I thought the Yanks already had Telepresence. Cano and Cabrera phoned it in all last season.
high speed wireless throughout the stadium is inpressive. ticket prices will be ginormous, but the fans will have alot of cool things available to them…
going to a yankee game will now be an experience rather than just attending a game.
and if they don’t show replays of close plays on the big screen, for those that have slingbox, you have it right at your fingertips. i’ve had problems in the bleachers using my wireless connection, but now i won’t. awesome.
the main function of the screens will be to blast advertisements in your face. food and beer will be so expensive that concessions guys will be swiping your credit cards through them.
Now I hope Hal isn’t an idiot like his father and brother, but if he doesn’t remember we haven’t won a championship in 8 years, and part of that was due to our strategy. Please, don’t do what you always do and buy every player, because it’s obvious money can field a team that has potential to win a championship, but it’s also evident that same team may never win one.
This bothers me a lot. They strung Pettitte along 5 years ago after the ‘03 season, and that’s when he went to Houston!! He wanted to re-sign with the Yankees, but Georgie Boy didn’t contact him for over a week after the World Series was over.
I think it is wrong what they are doing to Andy. He’s going to get serious offers from the Astros, Cubs and Cardinals. Let’s just lock him up while he wants to stay here!!!
Correct me if I’m wrong. Isn’t Andy Pettitte a free agent? Can’t we not sign free agents until this Friday?
Teams can resign their own free agents.
He’s OUR free agent, we had an exclusive 14 day window to work with him. Friday is the day when all of the other teams can make bids.
That’s why you haven’t seen a 12-year $999 million offer to CC yet.
It all has to do with Moose. If Moose returns, i think they pass on Andy. The sooner Mike announces his retirement. The sooner Pettitte gets signed. We dont owe Pettitte a thing. He got paid 16 mil for a sub par year. So he can wait. I think they do a 1 yr. 12 mil. Moose hangs em up.
Wang
Beddard
Pettitte
Lowe
Joba
http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081111/en_top_eo/68105
why didn’t anyone tell me, we signed Ty Law? Didn’t find out until 3hrs ago.
: )
Hank is the Flava Flav to Hal’s Chuck D one could say
“Wang
Beddard
Pettitte
Lowe
Joba”
Please don’t scare me like that.
I think they bring back Pettitte even if Moose doesn’t retire. I’d rather get Pettitte on a 1-year deal that Lowe on a 3-year.
Where was it ever written that the boys, who are grown men by the way, do not like owning the Yankees?
Lots of owners of sports teams are in the background and rarely deal with the media but I bet they love owning their teams.
Just because Hal doesn’t enjoy the media doesn’t mean he doesn’t enjoy owning the team.
Agreed…. Lowe and Bedard scare the *bleep* out of me!!
Just what we need, more overpaid, oft injured, old players on our hands.
This team will be sold but they are not going to do it while the old man is sill alive. Hank decided twenty or so years ago that he would rather be in the racehorse business and Hal doesn’t have the over the top personality that George had. Didn’t the team sell its share of the YES Network to help cover future inheritance taxes?
“Please don’t scare me like that.”
Bronx Jeers,
lol. I thought id throw one out i havnt seen before. Would it make you feel safer if i threw in Igawa?
“why didn’t anyone tell me, we signed Ty Law? Didn’t find out until 3hrs ago.”
Old news it was released like around 6 PM last night.
Gee, I go to sleep and wake up to Sleepy Hollow. So much going on!
Pete, great reports and insight to Hal. Heavy burden, indeed. The expectations of millions of Yankee fans on their shoulders.
1. Re: all the free agents running away. Get real. We’ve got $80M to spend in a poor economic climate. They’re not going to wait it out, they want to get on board. The moneys tend to get allocated pretty quickly.
2. The video stuff sounds great. I was wondering how they’ll show off the NYS. Is it no coincidence that they’re unveiling this before free agency begins? I know that CC has said he doesn’t need to do a tour of cities, he’s been to all the parks. But he hasn’t been to this park. It’s not like they can show the NYS to prospective FA without the media finding out. Can this teleconferencing technology be put to use in the very near future?
One would think that the Steinbrothers wouldn’t want to sell the team during the next 4-8 years, just for tax purposes. But who knows. Maybe they won’t have to sell it, just give it to CC.
said this before, but i’d much rather have a moose and a pettitte and not have to bother with either Lowe or AJ… (assuming we get CC)
Whos Ty Law?
Where was it ever written that the boys, who are grown men by the way, do not like owning the Yankees?
Lots of owners of sports teams are in the background and rarely deal with the media but I bet they love owning their teams.
Just because Hal doesn’t enjoy the media doesn’t mean he doesn’t enjoy owning the team.
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sssshhhhhhh!
Some people are on a roll assuming they know exactly what Hal and Hank are feeling/thinking.
I may be in the minority here, but come on. This is a baseball stadium- not an amusement park. I would rather have seats that I can afford then 14 million dollars worth of high tech stuff. I dont go to a game for those reasons. I just need a seat and a hot dog. These are the exact reasons why I go to Toronto to see games- I merely cant afford the tickets anymore.
Ty Law-cornerback. Use to play for the Pats, Chiefs and Jets. Now back with the Jets
refering to the jets as “we” on a yankee blog is confusing
Christina you got a good point there
saucY
November 11th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
refering to the jets as “we†on a yankee blog is confusing
i’ll have to agree with that…
thanks saucY
Just last year everyone wanted to trade for Beddard but knew Baltimore wouldnt deal with us. All these pitchers are a crap shoot. Who knows if C.C.’s arm will hold up for 7 years or even next. With all the work load hes had the last couple years. Or Burnett who most want. Even though he is Pavano like. Or Sheets-see Burnett.
Its not like any are safe choices.
That Cisco telepresence is amazing. It’s only a matter of time before it sweeps the country and world. With all the increasing hassles of business travel, airports, etc., it makes so much sense.
And I don’t care who writes the checks – Hal, Hank, or Jennifer, as long as the baseball people run the team. I find that much preferable to corporate ownership (I remember the fun days of CBS owning the team) or investor groups running my team, where short-term financial gain might take precedence over winning.
saucY,
Why is it confusing? If Law doesn’t work out in LF, we can always park him at 1B.
Speaking of LF, what the heck happened in the last minute on MNF? OMG, spike the damn ball.
“I just need a seat and a hot dog.”
Those $20 hot dogs better be good in the new stadium. I wonder if Ketsup and mustard are extra.
“OMG, spike the damn ball.”
Isn’t that Keyshawn’s line?
Sounds like a dog and pony show from Cisco.
Video conferencing has been around for at least a decade.
Adding wireless is nice but not earth shattering.
Lots of HD tv’s…go to any sports bar for the same.
Post game traffic reports?? Guess what, the traffic sucks.
Matt Holliday’s father wants Matt to be a Yankee:
It takes a lot for Tom Holliday, who has spent a lifetime in baseball, to become excited at a game. But in July, when his son Matt hit a home run at Yankee Stadium in the All-Star Game, Tom got up from his seat and rejoiced. Deep down, he said, he hoped his son would play in Yankees pinstripes soon.
“If someone would have called me today and said Matt had gotten traded to the Yankees, I’d have been hunting for a place to celebrate,†Tom Holliday, the associate head baseball coach at North Carolina State, said in a telephone interview.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/sports/baseball/11oakland.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin
“OMG, spike the damn ball.â€
‘Isn’t that Keyshawn’s line?’
I think that’s Kerri Walsh’s line.
Too bad Matt doesn’t have a say.
“I think that’s Kerri Walsh’s line.”
lol. I would have thought it was her fathers or Mays.
Mark,
Sorry. Don’t get it.
Nick,
Hey. Not fair. Misty gets her share of kills. I heard she’s going to try indoor volleyball again. Well, at least before she blew her knee out on Dancing with the Stars.
“Those $20 hot dogs better be good in the new stadium. I wonder if Ketsup and mustard are extra.”
Don’t put it past the yankees to charge extra for it. I hope they realize how horrible the economy is and that there are people that like to see games that are millionaires. But dont be surprised if you see the seats empty come the 6th inning when all the rich folks are ready to leave.
Tom Holliday just tell your son relax and we’ll see him in 2010 if he truely wants to be part of this team. BTW it also helps if you tell him to flip the bird at Boras too.
Charlie Weis in danger of being fired from ND? What is going on with ND?
I wonder if Tom Holliday told Matt not to sign with any team but the Yankees next offseason? hmm… (wishful thinking)
Art V. is correct (IMO) that the Yankees will be sold, but not until George passes. In the interim, presumably the next few years, the goal is to build value, (including YES). That means winning teams with the future always in mind. A blend of seasoned players carefully assembled so they don’t all fade at the same time (as they do now) and a productive farm system, with the end in view being consistent on-field success and thus an enhanced revenue base.
The absence of specific comments (other than regarding CC) together with the subtle hints dropped from time to time by various key personnel tells me they may be players for all big names in a given pecking order, though certainly not signing all. The potential of immediate revenue enhancement from all sources (made more significant due to the economy)is high on the agenda. They are not in any rush to sign Andy, and some others, until they know how the free agency market unfolds; delay as to some should result in some level of salary containment.
They know full well Boras’ game plan (as it is not difficult to deduce) and are being most careful as is evident from Cashman’s comments. The next month and one-half or so should be fascinating.
Time for Matt to dump Boras and hire Cynthia Rodriguez to be his agent.
“Charlie Weis in danger of being fired from ND? What is going on with ND”
the only time Weis was decent, is when he was playing with Ty Willingham’s players.
right now, Ty Willingham is set to do his best Willie Randolph impersonation.
Sure, they may enjoy owning the team but I wonder how long their act will play with fans when the team isn’t winning? Sure enjoyed the postseason this year, didn’t you?
After all they are responsible for extending Cashman and hiring Girardi not to mention the clumsy handling of their quick capitulation to Arod for an enormous contract when there weren’t any other bidders in sight.
Yeah, I am loving this ownership group. (sarcasm dripping)
““That will be one less thing to deal with, so why are they dragging?â€â€
Or maybe they have a handshake agreement to protect someone from the rule 5 draft.
There are many people (Perhaps most), are opposed to this stadium, and its costs. I am not in agreement with them. What I really like is, that the Yankees are sparing no expense in creating a modern ballpark experience, that will be state of the art, for the next decade (With the execption of a retractable roof (But that would be far too much money)). They are smart doing the wiring now, because not only will the technology be available for the fans in 2009, but it will cost far more than $17m to get the job done in the future (For example: Ripping up the ballpark in order to wire for present and future technologies, will not be exactly inexpensive).
I have little doubt that all sports facilities will be technology friendly (Except Wrigley & Fenway (assuming they are still in operation 10 years from now)), so I like the fact they are staying ahead of the curve (Unlike say, the METS, and their El Cheapo stadium). In addition, high tech, will be every much as much of a requirement, that environmentally friendly is, for fans under thirty.
This will be a stadium that all fans can be proud of.
Signing with the team of a player’s choice and retaining Boras as one’s agent are not mutually exclusive. It depends upon the player and the “marching orders” he give Boras. If Holliday tells Boras he wants to wear Pinstripes (and assuming the Yankees are interested and the $$$ are in the ballpark) he will be here next year.
Likewise, if Tex says I want to play on the east coast and I will not play for the Red Sox (given their treatment of him in the 99 draft) he will be in Pinstripes. On the other hand, if Manny really means it when he says “just follow the money” that’s what Boras will do. Let’s not judge Boras by the A-Rod scenario of last year. A-rod know what he was doing on the opt-out; Boras, as he should have, took the pie in the face when there were no other significant teams in the mix. Boras, whether you like him or not, is simply doing his job…..and doing it rather well.
BB
November 11th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Whos Ty Law?
* * * * *
Ty Law is Lawyer Milloy’s cousin.
“Charlie Weis in danger of being fired from ND? What is going on with ND?”
He should have been fired after Brady Quinn was drafted. Literall as a Notre Dame Irish football fanatic I can’t believe what he did to that system, to think Tuck learned in that system, Samarzdja (yeh I know I got his name wrong really don’t care) and Quinn were the only offense that team had it got worse the yr. after and now the D is on a vacation.
****A-rod knew what he was doing on the opt-out;*****
“Matt Holliday’s father wants Matt to be a Yankee:”
Lets see how he does in Oakland before we get crazy.
So i read today that Hoffman is not going to play for San Diego this year.
Players that didnt look right in another uniform.
a. Favre
b. Montana
c. Rice
d. Jordan
e. Namath
f ?
I can see we have some that can’t exactly be called early adaptors.
Whether the Yankees have teleconferencing, WiFi or video screens, the ticket prices aren’t going down. If you go to the stadium just to watch the game, put your blinders on until the ump says play ball. If you choose to go for the full entertainment experience, looks like your options have increased.
http://zellspinstripeblog.com/2008/11/10/what-will-steinbrenners-bill-look-like-at-the-end-of-the-off-season/
SI.com’s Jon Heyman said the Dodgers’ Manny Ramirez is his NL MVP. But he wouldn’t argue with someone who wanted Phillies closer Brad Lidge to be MVP.
Heyman thinks Manny is unlikely to stay in Los Angeles, unless the Dodgers change their tune and offer four years instead of two. Heyman thinks Manny will get a four-year offer worth about $100 million. Dan asked him which teams. Here’s Heyman’s list: Baltimore, Toronto, Philadelphia, the Yankees or a mystery team.
Heyman says almost every free agent goes for the money. He argues there are very few exceptions. He said he couldn’t tell you five guys who have left money on the table.
Heyman broke the Matt Holliday to the A’s story yesterday. Heyman says Oakland owner Lou Wolff is sick of losing.
Heyman says Holliday is a free agent next year and there’s no way the A’s can afford him after this season. Heyman thinks Holliday is one of the top five position players in baseball.
via: danpatrick.com
“I hope they realize how horrible the economy is and that there are people that like to see games that aren’t millionaires.”
Wow, this is naivete at it’s most stunning. As long as there are 50,000 people who will pay to see every game, the Yankees organization will not give a damn about Doris from Rego Park and Vinny from Brooklyn. Any signs of altruism from the team would only come if seats became vacant. The organization would be perfectly happy to sell 100% of its tickets to millionaires.
if healthy nick johnson would be perfect.probably wouldn’t cost us a ton of prospects and is a reasonable contract.then we can concentrate on cf and pitching.
the yankees are waiting for mussina b for they decide on pettitte.
if given a choice the yankees will chose moose.
i’m not sure they do both or get cc and another fa pitcher.
nick johnson is excellant defensively and puts up good numbers when healthy.it might be a small step in the right direction.
do we trade hughes or cano for a cf or will a package of other prospects get it done? can kennedy,ajax,melancon get a good cf?
Januz -
You bring up a very good point in saying that this stadium will suit the needs of the younger of the Yankees’ fans. No one under 30 (dare I say 40?) goes anywhere without being “connected” in some way – whether it’s a simple Ipod or cellphone,or a more forward piece of technology (Iphone, BlackBerry, notepads, etc.).
The other thing to remember is that anyone who doesn’t want to “wire-up,” you don’t have to; you can just watch the game. Some of the stuff is merely bells and whistles, but some of it (telepresence) has practical applications.
The Yankees are building a brand new stadium; it really does behoove them to make it as modern as possible. And though many of you may not like it, there are people for whom it is absolute tedium to sit through an entire baseball game because of how slowly it moves. To some, that’s the beauty, but to others who grew up in the Sesame Street era and beyond, it’s become necessary to provide multi-sensory experiences.
Also, like it or not, Yankee Stadium is a tourist destination. It’s also an “outing” rather than the old “let’s got to a ballgame today” experience. The latter is now reserved for going to minor league games ($10 for the most expensive seats in Trenton).
The problem is, going to a Yankee baseball game is no longer something most people can choose to do multiple times per season. But, honestly, it hasn’t been for some time — since they started selling out almost every game. The only way to get tickets most games is to go through sources other than the Yankees ticket office, and paying a premium price for whatever tickets you can get.
I suppose it stinks that the Yankees raised ticket prices, but you can look at at this way: they get to keep the money, so they have more to spend on the team they field, rather than ticket agents and scalpers, which doesn’t benefit the team at all, or at least not as much.
Everything in this world is far too expensive anyway.
Peter, I think you’re right about the blog thing in the future, but I also think you should be the pioneer for that movement. I think you can get a sweet gig out of it if you pitched an idea in a smart way to the Yankees about incorporating you/your blog. Maybe you have to switch the platform you use to something more conducive to the Yankees or YES, but I think you should give it a shot. You’d have more resources and the blog will be even better.
NL Cy Young Award goes to Lincecum
Giants hurler led the league in winning percentage, strikeouts
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3674375&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
“Whos Ty Law?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWp9hoMypwE
His nickname is “The Law” one of the smartest CB in all of football, lets just say no him, no Pats dynasty.
Warrior21
November 11th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
This bothers me a lot. They strung Pettitte along 5 years ago after the ‘03 season, and that’s when he went to Houston!! He wanted to re-sign with the Yankees, but Georgie Boy didn’t contact him for over a week after the World Series was over.
I think it is wrong what they are doing to Andy. He’s going to get serious offers from the Astros, Cubs and Cardinals. Let’s just lock him up while he wants to stay here!!!
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the yankees paid pettitte a lot of money and he will get paid at least 10 million more if he signs wich he probably will.
the yankees have to wait to see what mussina does and what other pitchers they get.
their has to be some concerns about pettitte’s dropoff over his last 9 games or so.ped’s and not working out with clemmens is my concern.
he had an era of over 6 and got hit around.
The Steinbrenners have turned down several offers for the team exceeding a billion dollars.
I love how everybody is set to believe they will sell the team after George dies.
Did anybody stop to think that you don’t have to act like a stark raving maniac (the Old George) or a media whore (Mark Cuban) and still enjoy owning a team?
Just because Hal Steinbrenner would rather eat glass than give press conferences doesn’t mean he doesn’t like owning the team.
If he did, George’s health wouldn’t have stopped a sale of the team.
When you turn down multiple billion dollar+ offers to sell, it tells me these folks are in it for the long haul.
On this Veterans Day, I think I join many in sending my thoughts to readers and posters here who have served in the Armed Forces, and wishing you peace.
thank you, brandon.
even tho Ty Law was a Patriot, he was my favorite non-Jet player for a long time. Crazy, i know.
hopefully, this doesn’t mean the Jets have lost any faith in my boyy Lowery. I believe Ty Law can really help NYJ in the slot/nickle/dime.
Ty Law was (and I emphasize was) a great CB. But he is 34 and has not been playing.
It is comical that he says he knows the Patriot system. He did not play with Randy Moss or any of the other receivers except for Faulk.
He tries to cover those guys I think he gets burned.
They aren’t “stringing” Pettitte along. There are other priorities right now.
They have to see what transpires on the FA front.
Pettitte is either going to retire or sign with the Yankees. He’s not interested in going anywhere else and the Yankees know this.
Its a matter of priorities and Andy isn’t one right now.
Not with free agency set to begin and Moose’s situation still unresolved.
When the smoke clears, he will probably be a Yankee next year.
The hope (at least from the Yankees perspective) is, that he has additional help (as in CC and/or others) in the rotation.
jim,
We can add Gretzky to that list.
jake one thing you learn about Ty Law it doesn’t matter how old he is, he can still run and if he’s 1 on 1 w/ you the ball likely finds his hands. He’s a throwback player and a vet but one of those guys you put him on the field he gets the job done.
Lincecum=CY
bru,
So it took 3/4 of a season for the effects of PEDS to wear off?
How about we accept the fact that he had a shoulder issue? And that he gutted it out for the team?
Screw the Cisco press conference, we want the CC Sabathia press conference!
I’m sure I’m not the first one to say that, but it bears repeating. Wish the Yanks would start making some moves, beginning with CC and Andy and then if the Marlins are really having a fire sale, how bout some Jeremy Hermida?
Anyway, solid pick for the baseball writers in Timmy Lincecum as the NL Cy Young. Now hopefully they’ll go two for two in correct choices and give the MVP to Pujols!
after moose reviews his vanguard account numbers, he decides to come back
“Isn’t This a Yankees Blog?”
new york blog.
Yes We Can !
P.S. I’m a Giants fan
“their has to be some concerns about pettitte’s dropoff over his last 9 games or so.ped’s and not working out with clemmens is my concern.
he had an era of over 6 and got hit around”
Um, he was pitching hurt.
also if we’re gonna talk about PED’s then let’s also talk about the fact that Andy didn’t have time to prepare for ST as he normally would in the winter, due to the ridiculousness of the Mitchell Witch Hunt. since he couldnt go about his normal offseason routine, it only stands to reason that he would run out of steam earlier than usual.
Plus, even if he had been dealing only with ineffectiveness rather than injury down the stretch, I love how some of you act as if he couldn’t rebound next year. Just like Moose couldnt rebound after a rough 2007, right? Andy is younger and a lefty….and still a gamer, lest we forget!
As much as I love Moose and I do love him a lot, I would rather have Andy back for 1-2 years than Moose for 3. I dont understand what theyre waiting for, sign him already!
“vinny-b (Hank Blalock for 1st base)
November 11th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
“Isn’t This a Yankees Blog?â€
“new york blog.”
From the top righihand corner:
About this blog
Thoughts and discussion on the 26-time World Champion Yankees.
“Meanwhile the Indians like newly acquired Huston Street and the Nationals are one club eyeing Carlos Gonzalez. Rosenthal says the Rockies figure to hang on to Greg Smith.”
Just saying…
“About this blog
Thoughts and discussion on the 26-time World Champion Yankees.”
So you’d honestly rather discuss the Cisco press conference?
If we can talk about Springsteen, we can talk about the Patriots.
Totally O/T, but who’s this JaVale McGee kid? He can frickin jump. If I’m not mistaken, his waistband is above the rim.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Introducing-the-JaVale-cam-?urn=nba,121293
If Pettitte returns he will be asked to be the 4th starter. If he can go 14-14 with over 200 innings pitched again I think he’d be worth it.
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“Totally O/T, but who’s this JaVale McGee kid? He can frickin jump. If I’m not mistaken, his waistband is above the rim.”
Javell reminds me of Camby. He’s just nasty once he puts weight if his basketball IQ improves he can be whatever he wants to be.
i wouldn’t be so sure that pettitte retires if the yankees don’t sign him.
i know he said it but i wouldn’t be suprised if he signed with the astros for a year.
i think they eventually sign him.
i would sign cc at the minimum and try to trade for a young pitcher instead of signing a second pitcher for big bucks unless we can sign dempster to a reasonable contract.
sabathia
wang
dempster
mussina/pettitte
joba.
i would love to get billingsley,volquez,jair jurrjens,cain or someone along those lines.
i know it is very unlikely but it would be nice for a change to see the yankees get a good young pitcher that doesn’t cost a fortune.
speaking of b-ball, how bout that Heat/Nets game last night? man I missed watching Wade take over a game down the stretch
good times.
not to gloat though but for any Nets fans here, how much more obvious does it need to be that you should get rid of Carter? He is a choker and a half. 2 turnovers in the final minute and then there was a postgame quote from him in The Record today blaming Yi for being in the wrong spot when he got called for the travel.
from my outsiders POV it’s fairly obvious that Yi and Harris are the best things to happen to the Nets in a while, and VC, and to a lesser degree Frank, are just dragging them down. Now that Kidd is gone what is the point of keeping Frank anyway?
Did Pete hire a moderator for the blog this off-season?
If he didn’t, who the heck is the person trying to tell everybody what to talk about in the blog?
Here is a novel concept. If you don’t want to talk about anything Non-Yankees, either contribute something about the Yankees (something a little more substantive than, “if they don’t sign CC Sabathia I will never watch another game”) or just skip over the Non-Yankee posts.
Doesn’t seem too tough to do to me.
Part of what makes the blog fun is that we don’t always talk about the Yankees.
Hard as it may be for some to fathom but, there are things going on in sports, music, and the world more interesting than the Yankees right now.
Santana received four first-place votes and 55 points
bru,
Pettitte’s said he wants to pitch for the Yankees, but I wouldn’t blame him a bit for signing with his hometown Astros (or any team) if the Yankees didn’t sign him.
If he’s still got something left in the tank, more power to him.
Wow, the Yankees catchers had a combined OPS of .625. God, I hope Jorge is healthy.
mel
November 11th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
bru,
So it took 3/4 of a season for the effects of PEDS to wear off?
How about we accept the fact that he had a shoulder issue? And that he gutted it out for the team?
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i don’t know but they had to help him at least a little and i don’t know for sure he had any major shoulder problems.
he and almost every single player plays with injuries.
he had injuries before that he played with and did well,he admitted so himself.
maybe ped’s helped with injuries allone wich i hear and believe they do.
i know someone who taked hgh and i could of bought some and still can and this person said they definately work.
the bottom line is that the yankees have to be concerned with pettittes over 6.0 era over his last 9 games or so regardless of what the reasons are.
took hgh
mel you’ll hear about the McGee kid around say 2 months from now, he is freakishly athletic and all that he needs a bit of court awareness on offense and some muscle, he can get 5 rebs and 3-4 blks, 2 stls in the span of 15-20 mins. so lets just say for a #18th pick Washington hit a jackpot like pick w/ him. Remember last week when I said the Knicks win in Washington was a fluke ? When this kid came on the floor he went Kenyon Martin on them, he had me thinking DAMN why couldn’t we have him on our roster, then I remember Danilo Gallanari who btw is out and will get surgery. So many players passed up for Danillo Gallanari
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJilDqw8JOY
Seriously freakish
i agree with signing pettitte if they have to but the yankees are taking the smart approach by waiting and not automatically signing him.
they wan’t to see it there art better options like maybe mussina or another pitcher.
Brandon (TEIX IS NOT WORTH IT, GET CC !)…”Don’t trade Robi !”
November 11th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJilDqw8JOY
Seriously freakish
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that kid looks good who is he?
bru,
Dude. You really believe what you just wrote?
Your crazy scenarios and trade ideas are entertaining, but you really seem to have latched on to this PED theory.
I think the more logical and likely explanation is that he was injured.
the carter travel was a bs call. boone also saved that one ball from going out of bounds in the final minutes, but they called that one wrong, as well…
There may be better options than Andy in a trade but there are certainly none on the FA market, not for a non big ticket/non CC starter anyway. Someone said before they’d prefer a year of Andy to 3 yrs of Lowe; I’d take that one step further and say give me 3 years of Andy over one of Lowe! He is a disaster waiting to happen and I feel the same way about Burnett.
“that kid looks good who is he?”
Wizards 18th pick of 08′
20 yr. old 7′0 PF Javale McGee
“the carter travel was a bs call. boone also saved that one ball from going out of bounds in the final minutes, but they called that one wrong, as well…”
He shuffled his feet it was the right call, Frank was an idiot playing Hassel and Simmons over Jarvis Hayes, I literally can’t believe how Nets fans suck up to that guy.
It’s one thing to make Andy wait because you have other priorities – which the Yanks do – but at least call the man and let him know that’s what you’re doing, show him the respect he’s earned as a good Yankee. It sounds to me like they aren’t even talking to him, letting him know where they stand, which is exactly what they did in “03, which is why he left.
I’ll bet in a few years the Yankees will have an in-house blog to foster their own network.
Well, if they don’t hire you, Pete, they can give us a call.
i didn’t see his foot move.
i don’t suck up to frank. and i agree with BBB that there’s really no reason to keep him around now that kidd’s gone. but i have no idea who a better replacement would be. and i’ll admit they’re not going anywhere this year, replacing him now would just set that replacement up for failure…
I’m response to the part about the new stadium, do you think all this technology was necessary? I can see why they felt the need to do it (why not make it as nice as possible) but on the other hand, I feel like maybe the money could have been spared!
What do you think?
and devon harris needs to suck it up and play.
(my fantasy team is dying)
Look at Andy’s last 8-11 starts:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=pettian01&t=p
He had 3 starts that were awful and 8 were typical Pettitte.
mel
November 11th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
bru,
Dude. You really believe what you just wrote?
Your crazy scenarios and trade ideas are entertaining, but you really seem to have latched on to this PED theory.
I think the more logical and likely explanation is that he was injured.
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i didn’t latch onto anything.i understand that it is probable that he was injured but hgh helps in recovering from injuries and we do not know the whole story.
i don’t wan’t to go on and on about ped’s and get everybody involved.i have mixed opinions and nothing is in stone.
i think you are taking this way to serious.
as far as my crazy trade scenarios i am open to anything and everything and do not believe that any player is untradeable to better the team.
when baseball experts,gm’s and everybody else in the world for the most part would at least consider trading cano,hughes and almost everybody else for THE RIGHT PLAYER(S) wich they do then i have to believe and do believe that you can trade a player or player and get more value in return even though sometimes you won’t be able to tell how well you make out for a few years.
look at the holliday trade.the a’s can trade him right now for much more than they gave up.
colorado i hear is now realizing that they didn’t get fair trade value so anything is possible.
you are like anybody else in the world,a person with opinions who express them.
when i see something that you type that makes me think you are any more intelligent than me or anybody else for that matter i might give a hoot about what you might say.
baseball experts write things all the time that you and i might think is crazy but we don’t know for certain.people critisize things just for the sake of doing so before they even read or understand what they are critisizing.
it is just my opinions at the time when i type them,nothing serious,just me goofing around,i change my mind all the time.
anyways to make a long story short RELAX DUDE.
teams wan’t equal or more value when making trade so when a trade is made the value on paper is so close that you can’t tell who made out in the deal.
how do we know if trading hughes,kennedy,ajax for kemp or loney will benefit the yankees or can even be pulled off? we don’t and i don’t.
what happens if the yankees traded cano for matt cain and he becomes great and cano regresses even further?
it might look bad initially but until you look back after a few years you just don’t know so my suggestion to you mel would be to stop acting like you think you know what is right or wrong or good or bad when nobody else does for certain.
cashman made many bad moves and he is the gm for the yankees and you and i are typing an opinion on a blogg pretending to be a gm.
LIKELY result:
CC
Wang
Pettitte
FA
Joba
If that second FA is not signed, it will come down to a spring training battle amongst the prospects (Hughes, Aceves, Kennedy, etc.)
I would be pretty happy with this.
Tom
November 11th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Prince Hal and Falstaff. That’s who the Steinbrenner brothers are….
^^^
that’s pretty good. Some would argue that the Yankees have been “stealing purses” for years.
George is a little too senile at this point to be Bolingbroke, however.
Peter:
Thanks for giving such up to date information regarding the Yankees. What I would like to address is the affects that our struggling economy will have on the Yankees, and the Steinbrenner’s. I believe you said that seven of the luxury boxes have remained unsold. I read somewhere else that they are all down the foul lines, and priced at somewhere between $600,000-$850,000 a piece. Clearly these boxes are being purchased by large companies who can afford this type of season box. With our economy in such dire straits and companies facing such economic struggles, it is very possible that these boxes will not be purchased all year long for those prices. My question is how will this struggling economy affect Mr. Steinbrenner’s pocket with such a hefty payroll. I’m sure all of the seats that the Yankees were intending on selling for $2000 a ticket behind home plate will not be sold out either, at least for that price. I feel like this could end up being a real shock, with a $200 Million payroll and possibly a stadium that is not sold out, the big boss could end up losing some money. What do you think? I know the T.V deal is always a big money maker, but it may not be as profitable this year.
While we are on the subject which big time free agents do you think the Yankees will end up signing? I am fairly confident that C.C will end up in pinstripes, but which of the other big name pitchers do you think they will get. To be honest with you, I personally think that Peavy is the best of all. He had a down year, but the morale in San Diego was so low. He has some of the most electrifying stuff in the league, and I know that he would be a huge asset to the Yankees rotation. Even more of an assest than C.C would be. Burnett has always been a head case, yes he has a live fastball and a deadly curve ball, but you can count on him to get inside his own head and start causing some problems.