Comments on: Has Marte signed? http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/ A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:22:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: dave http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/comment-page-3/#comment-587940 dave Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:18:24 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/#comment-587940 This post is in reference to marte signing - i have been in classes all day. Of course, the marte deal made sense - they gave up tabata who was supposedly untouchable to get him and it wasnt a couple months rental. However, was three yrs really necessary? I guess it was but to me that seems like a long time for a lefty reliever who is past his prime already at the age of 33. Seems like two yrs and 12 million probably would have done the trick with a club option for a third yr. That would be adding 6 mil to the option and adding a new option. I hate signing relievers to long term deals and granted, this is only three yrs but that seems like a lot- marte is not the best reliever in the game and relievers in general are soo volatile. Im happy that marte is back though and it certainly solidifies the pen although i would like cash to get someone that can replace the eighth inning parade of relievers that we have had. If joba is going to start, who is the bridge to Mo? Is it marte? I wouldnt mind signing a guy like fuentes. I was begging for him last yr and he looks even better now. I bet a a multiyr deal with a lot of money involved will get him to be a setup man rather than a closer. And if a reliever can succeed in colorado, I think they can be successful anywhere. I also wanted him last yr. This post is in reference to marte signing – i have been in classes all day. Of course, the marte deal made sense – they gave up tabata who was supposedly untouchable to get him and it wasnt a couple months rental. However, was three yrs really necessary? I guess it was but to me that seems like a long time for a lefty reliever who is past his prime already at the age of 33. Seems like two yrs and 12 million probably would have done the trick with a club option for a third yr. That would be adding 6 mil to the option and adding a new option. I hate signing relievers to long term deals and granted, this is only three yrs but that seems like a lot- marte is not the best reliever in the game and relievers in general are soo volatile. Im happy that marte is back though and it certainly solidifies the pen although i would like cash to get someone that can replace the eighth inning parade of relievers that we have had. If joba is going to start, who is the bridge to Mo? Is it marte? I wouldnt mind signing a guy like fuentes. I was begging for him last yr and he looks even better now. I bet a a multiyr deal with a lot of money involved will get him to be a setup man rather than a closer. And if a reliever can succeed in colorado, I think they can be successful anywhere. I also wanted him last yr.

]]> By: dave http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/comment-page-3/#comment-587939 dave Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:17:01 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/#comment-587939 marte will be 34 in february in case anyone was wondering marte will be 34 in february in case anyone was wondering

]]> By: Nick http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/comment-page-3/#comment-587911 Nick Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:30:39 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/#comment-587911 We need a broadcaster to keep Kay on his toes? Manny sounds perfect. >_> We need a broadcaster to keep Kay on his toes?

Manny sounds perfect. >_>

]]> By: S.o.S.27 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/comment-page-3/#comment-587702 S.o.S.27 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:43:45 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/#comment-587702 "that does change the tone and hopefully we can move on to other terminology when we want to put some one down ‘in fun’." You guys can make fun of my spelling. Its o.k. I can take it. Hey mel, Spurs had Hill and Mason starting. Finley and Bowen riding the pine. I like it!! If anyone watched the game. Can you tell me if we have a chance in hell of playing .500 ball till Ginoblii and Parker gets back? “that does change the tone and hopefully we can move on to other terminology when we want to put some one down ‘in fun’.”

You guys can make fun of my spelling. Its o.k. I can take it.

Hey mel,
Spurs had Hill and Mason starting. Finley and Bowen riding the pine. I like it!! If anyone watched the game. Can you tell me if we have a chance in hell of playing .500 ball till Ginoblii and Parker gets back?

]]> By: mel http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/comment-page-3/#comment-587695 mel Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:37:20 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/#comment-587695 Joey's, Gotcha. Joey’s,

Gotcha.

]]> By: Joey's Poodle http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/comment-page-3/#comment-587692 Joey's Poodle Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:32:59 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/#comment-587692 'Good clean fun' as long as people were ignorant of the meaning, no doubt. But now that everyone knows, that does change the tone and hopefully we can move on to other terminology when we want to put some one down 'in fun'. ‘Good clean fun’ as long as people were ignorant of the meaning, no doubt. But now that everyone knows, that does change the tone and hopefully we can move on to other terminology when we want to put some one down ‘in fun’.

]]> By: CB http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/comment-page-3/#comment-587690 CB Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:31:25 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/#comment-587690 "Giles has had a power outage the last few years and it’s not due to Petco." Giles is a well balanced player. No he's not a slugger. But he's a well balanced hitter. He had an OPS+ of 136 last year. Abreu's OPS+ was 120. Giles had a .398 OBP. Abrue .371. Abreu slugged .471. Giles .456. Given the differences in ball parks and line ups you have to look at factors other than home runs/ RBIs to asses their offensive performance and how much power they hit for. Neither is a slugger. They are comparable offensively. Leaving Petcon/ the Padres Giles would hit more HR and drive in many more runs than he did last year. Giles is a far superior defensive player. Abreu was one of the worst defensive players in baseball - around 20 runs worse than an average RF. Giles was around 3 runs better. “Giles has had a power outage the last few years and it’s not due to Petco.”

Giles is a well balanced player. No he’s not a slugger. But he’s a well balanced hitter.

He had an OPS+ of 136 last year. Abreu’s OPS+ was 120. Giles had a .398 OBP. Abrue .371. Abreu slugged .471. Giles .456.

Given the differences in ball parks and line ups you have to look at factors other than home runs/ RBIs to asses their offensive performance and how much power they hit for.

Neither is a slugger. They are comparable offensively. Leaving Petcon/ the Padres Giles would hit more HR and drive in many more runs than he did last year.

Giles is a far superior defensive player. Abreu was one of the worst defensive players in baseball – around 20 runs worse than an average RF. Giles was around 3 runs better.

]]> By: mel http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/comment-page-3/#comment-587687 mel Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:25:25 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/#comment-587687 Tom, Are you talking to me? I was here during the original exchange and it was a riot. Good, clean fun. And no one's feelings were hurt. Joey's Poodle, It was a riot. Good, clean fun. And no one's feelings were hurt. Tom,

Are you talking to me? I was here during the original exchange and it was a riot. Good, clean fun. And no one’s feelings were hurt.

Joey’s Poodle,

It was a riot. Good, clean fun. And no one’s feelings were hurt.

]]> By: StandingO'Neill http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/comment-page-3/#comment-587686 StandingO'Neill Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:25:14 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/#comment-587686 Juan Rivera is an interesting option CB, I agree with him being a 3rd/4th outfielder. But he may be looking for a starting job Juan Rivera is an interesting option CB, I agree with him being a 3rd/4th outfielder. But he may be looking for a starting job

]]> By: West Coast Guy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/comment-page-3/#comment-587685 West Coast Guy Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:23:49 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/12/has-marte-signed/#comment-587685 Giles has had a power outage the last few years and it's not due to Petco. He may be an upgrade over Abreu defensively but not at the plate. There are better options. Giles has had a power outage the last few years and it’s not due to Petco. He may be an upgrade over Abreu defensively but not at the plate. There are better options.

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