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Cashman talks about the Swisher deal

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Nov 13, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Here’s Brian Cashman commenting on the trade:

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Swisher is not here to play CF. Cashman made that clear. He’s here to play 1B. Cashman did not close the door to anything else happening (he never does), but it’s pretty evident that they see Swisher playing 1B and having the ability to play LF or RF on occasion. That would enable them to keep Jorge Posada in the lineup once in a while as the 1B.

Jeff Marquez was on the 40-man roster while Jhonny Nunez would have required Rule 5 protection. Kanekoa Texeira does not require such protection. The side benefit to this move is roster flexibility.

There is no “losing” Wilson Betemit. There is dumping Wilson Betemit.

The White Sox save money on this deal, that’s their upside. Swisher never quite fit there for assorted reasons, mainly Ozzie Guillen using him at the top of the order. Marquez could turn into something. Nunez was a guy they got for Alberto Gonzalez in July. No big loss.

This move allows the Yankees to focus their attention (and money) on starting pitching. Mark Teixeira just lost a lot of leverage.

 
 

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299 Responses to “Cashman talks about the Swisher deal”

  1. Zolio November 13th, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    The funniest part is that there are actually people who thought Cashman was going to spend $180-$200 million for a 1st baseman.

    C’mon, not even the Yankees can afford CC, AJ/Lowe, Pettitte, AND Teixeria. If we did, that is about $75 million right there and all the flexibility that we’ve been trying to get is now gone.

  2. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story November 13th, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    This move allows the Yankees to focus their attention (and money) on starting pitching. *Mark Teixeira just lost a lot of leverage.*

    That is kind of awesome.

    Also, what happened to being able to use html coding in posts?

  3. george November 13th, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    for what it’s worth, here are observations from a colleague who’s a knowledgeable ChiSox fan:

    “Swisher is good. He took alot of walks – which the White Sox don’t like, because they prefer aggressive hitters (read: hitters who strike out alot). He’s a slightly below-average CF, but great at 1st.”

  4. Brandon (TEIX IS NOT WORTH IT, GET CC !)..."Don't trade Robi !" November 13th, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    Cashman your next step should deal Nady while you can.

  5. andrea November 13th, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    Not gonna lie. I still want the real Teixeira.

  6. Brandon (TEIX IS NOT WORTH IT, GET CC !)..."Don't trade Robi !" November 13th, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Not gonna lie I don’t a give a damn about Teixeira

  7. Z (sign Sheets) November 13th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Brandon,

    Agree 100%. Nady is kind of redundant. .280 hitter, strikes out a lot, low OBP, no speed etc.

    Sell high on him.

  8. PAT M. November 13th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    The Angels will be in need of a 1baseman in about 30 days…..Swisher is a very good pickup……

  9. Brad November 13th, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    Typical Cashman. As stealth as it gets. At the start of the day, nobody could have projected this deal.
    As Peter says, it’s the flexability that’s what to like.

  10. vtred November 13th, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    Here’s a pitcher and article about this Texeria kid

    http://the.honoluluadvertiser......40361.html

    Click the picture to enlarge it.

  11. RhapsodyInBlue November 13th, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    Not one NY beat writer got the inside on Swisher, another example of how little they all know.

    Heyman however seems to be more accurate then the rest (on Yankee moves), but only announcing them just before they go down.

    Maybe Heyman knows Bobcat.

  12. Mr. Exceptional November 13th, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    Great trade. This is a good start.

    As many have said, no need for the boatload of cash for Tex. So the Yanks got Tex-lite…now the can get CC-heavy.

  13. josh November 13th, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    i sure hope cashman is bluffing by saying swish is at 1b.. he needs to be at CF or this move does not improve us

  14. sd November 13th, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    This’s ****ing stupid. So much for getting a glove at 1b. So now we still have no CF and a poor option at 1b. This is a horrible move.

    Teix and C.C. are the type of young players in their prime that you open up the purse strings for. There is no point in having a financial advantage if you aren’t going to use it on players like them. The fact that they happen to hit the free agent market at the same time doesn’t change that.

    They are repeating the Beltran mistake all over again.

  15. O*Line November 13th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Didn’t think they would sell so low on Swisher.

    Kind of like we did with Tabata

  16. Tank November 13th, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    Heyman by far is the best at breaking stories.

    He isin’t very good at analyzing the game (like Francessa asks him to do), but as far as retrieving info and breaking stories… doesn’t get much more accurate than him.

  17. Brandon (TEIX IS NOT WORTH IT, GET CC !)..."Don't trade Robi !" November 13th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    “Heyman however seems to be more accurate then the rest (on Yankee moves), but only announcing them just before they go down.”

    Baseball prospectus had it first.

  18. keith November 13th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    Bubby Crosby is our starting centerfielder.

  19. Laura - Ready for '09 November 13th, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    –Not gonna lie I don’t a give a damn about Teixeira

    You will when Swisher is hitting in the low 200s and not driving anybody in.

    You will when we play LAA and Tex puts a major hurting on us.

    Be happy with the trade now because you probably won’t be come June.

  20. AZ Four November 13th, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    The acquisition of the switch-hitting Swisher creates two interesting scenarios – he could play either first base or center field. The Yankees have been looking for a center fielder who can provide more offense than Melky Cabrera or Brett Gardner, but it also gives them an option at first base if they decide not to pursue slugger Mark Teixeira.

    The Yankees believe Swisher’s poor average was a function of a strained relationship with Chisox manager Ozzie Guillen, major-league sources said.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....hite_.html

  21. sd November 13th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    “Bubby Crosby is our starting centerfielder.”

    I hope to God you are right.

  22. RhapsodyInBlue November 13th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    “Baseball prospectus had it first.”

    This particular move maybe, but Heyman definitely has a good source.

  23. Steve November 13th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    i love the betemit comment

  24. tim boat November 13th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    The only downside and problem I see here is Swisher’s hefty contract. He’s got 3 years remaining and will make $9 million in that final year, I don’t think a .245 hitter who is a role player is worth anything near that.

  25. G. Love November 13th, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    You know the big G just shed a tear when he heard this news. Any chance of that door being slightly cracked open for him is now sealed shut.

  26. Tom November 13th, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    Thank God this board wasn’t around in the offseason of ’92 They would have been lambasting the Front office dealing Kelly to the Reds for some 29 year old OF who hit .246….

  27. Left Coast November 13th, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    Laura,

    Forget the Angels, I’m more worried about the Red Sox signing him. They like him so much they are willing to trade their WS MVP Lowell and move Youkallis to a different position just to get him.

    Right now, the Angels would be the best case scenario for us.

    Ellsbury-Pedroia-Youkallis-Ortiz-Teixeria-Bay-Drew-Lowrie-Salty/Max Ramirez

    is FAR better than

    Damon, Jeter, Matsui, A-Rod, Posada, Swisher, Cano, Nady, Gardner.

    Doesn’t matter if you get CC and clone him 4 times, we scored 200 less runs than last year.

  28. Michael November 13th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    The fact that BOTH Boston and the Angels have Tex at the top of their shopping list tells you alot. If we pass on him that would be extremely disappointing. Cashman has a great poker face and I don’t believe we’ll stop pursuing Tex until he signs somewhere else.

    Also, the “give CC whatever he wants” crowd needs to calm down. If he gets 6+ years, he’ll probably be mediocre for at least half of them. I know we’re desperate for pitching but this is embarrassing. I’m not saying not to pursue CC, but I would rather give Tex 7 years than give CC 6 years.

  29. Red Dragons November 13th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    Swisher-Nady-Gardner at the bottom of the lineup?

    AL East pitchers are popping champagne in their winter homes as we speak. Will our lineup be better than Baltimore’s?

  30. Brandon (TEIX IS NOT WORTH IT, GET CC !)..."Don't trade Robi !" November 13th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    He does more of this

    http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.....9063429865

    alot of NYers will change thier tune.

  31. Patrick November 13th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    Why do people keep saying Swisher can play CF for the Yanks? Cashman just said he would only be in CF for emergencies. Swisher is the starting 1B unless Teixeira is open to signing a reasonable deal (I doubt it). Pete made a good point that Posada can take 1B occasionally which puts Swisher on the bench or in one of the corners.

    This is a great move simply because Cashman traded away 3 pieces with little value and got back a legitimate starting 1B.

    Don’t look at this move alone, the offseason isn’t over.. its just beginning. The offense looks weak now but I can see multiple areas of possible improvement. RF and CF look like prime spots for upgrades. I’d be happy with Nady starting in RF next year but who knows maybe Cashman will look at a guy like Brian Giles. Maybe he will resign Abreu.

  32. Tom November 13th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    When did the Sox get Salty or Max Ramerez?

  33. autograph seeker November 13th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    # Laura – Ready for ’09 November 13th, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    —Not gonna lie I don’t a give a damn about Teixeira

    You will when Swisher is hitting in the low 200s and not driving anybody in.

    You will when we play LAA and Tex puts a major hurting on us.

    Be happy with the trade now because you probably won’t be come June.

    I pray you are kidding about Swisher. For the sake of humanity.

  34. mel November 13th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    I didn’t realize that Cashman was visting the space station.

  35. harwood November 13th, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    Our greatest post season competition are the Angels, Sox, Rays next year. Do you really thing we are going to just let them have Tex so we can cut our salary this year?

  36. Yanks 1996 November 13th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    The Red Sox want Tex for a reason, because he is a franchise player at a premium position. A switch hitter, gold glover, and power hitter at age 28.

    Just another case of Theo outsmarting Cashman… he will trade for a young Texas Catcher, sign Tex and a cheap innings eater like Lowe while we get Swisher who hit .219 and has no position and beg CC, who doesn’t even want to come here, to join our staff by wooing him with 40% higher offers.

    The only way this makes sense if this is apart of a larger deal and he doesn’t end up playing 1st.

  37. Wave Your Hat November 13th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    I like the Swisher deal – it’s the kind of deal the Yanks rarely make and should do more often. Buy low.

    That said, Swisher’s still a gamble. His 08 season was not that good, and if he doesn’t bounce back to his 2006 and 2007 numbers then he won’t help that much.

    I don’t see this as shutting out Texeira at all. I see this as a defensive move in case we can’t sign Texera. If we do sign Texeira, there’s plenty of ABs for Swisher in the OF, as Nady and Swisher are complementary players (Nady hits lefties better, Swisher righties), and the CF position is far from settled.

    I still think they’ll try to land Texeira. Without a bat like that our offense just isn’t going to get it done.

  38. PAT M. November 13th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    Excellent illustration Tom…..

  39. vinny-b (Hank Blalock for 1st base) November 13th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    thank you to all, for the input on Swisher (intangibles)

    trading two players on the 40-man and another that had to be protected this offseason, make this a positive trade.

    yes. Would like to see Nady shopped. From my view, he is a bench player

  40. Outlawz November 13th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    harwood,

    It appears so. Why else did we acquire Swisher? Not to play CF.

    Cashman is allergic to getting a real 1st baseman.

  41. Nick in SF in Pacifica November 13th, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    SF radio station just reported RUMOUR that the Angels might play ball in the Manny sweepstakes. Or at least Boras would like the Dodgers et al to think so.

  42. G. Love November 13th, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    Okay, let’s get something straight.

    No one in baseball is going to trade for Mike Lowell. He has no trade protection (and took less money years to stay in Boston) and just had hip surgery.

    Unless the Red Sox take back Barry Zito for him straight up and take all of Zito’s money (not happening) that’s about all you can trade a rehabbing hip injured Lowell for right now.

    Lowell makes a lot of money and took the NTC to stay in Boston. Why would he waive it?

    So for Boston to sign Tex, they will have a logjam at the corners with big money committed to all the players…I don’t think they are going to do that.

    I think the same reasons the Yankees might not want to get Tex for 8-10 years will be the same reasons Boston won’t want him.

    If the Yankees want Texeira at 1b, they know they are going to have to top 160 million since Tex already passed up over 150 million from Texas last season before the trade deadline.

    Getting Swisher gives the team options and gives us the type of player who may change the culture in the clubhouse a bit.

    These are good things.

    The best part about this deal is Cashman has the option to still sign Tex and trade Nady or Damon for something else we need and we can move Swisher to the OF.

    The off season is just starting. This was a good warning shot.

  43. rumor monger November 13th, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    This is idiotic. Re: CC and a 7 year deal “He’ll probably be mediocre for half of them”, how the heck do you know that? He’s had a track record that suggests he’ll be better than mediocre, dimwit. Swisher-Nady-Gardner is a pretty respectable 7-8-9, in fact it’s better than what a lot of teams run out there. Last thread we had Laura playing the PED card as to why Swisher won’t be any good anymore because apparently we’re still playing the McCarthyist witch-hunt game for players who have a down year. I guess that means Cano is a PED user. What a joke. It’s a good trade, one good trade on the day before free agency starts, and people have already made up their minds about exactly how the team will look come April 2009. Puh-lease.

  44. sd November 13th, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    I don’t know what conference call Peter was listening to but I heard nothing to make me think they aren’t going to be in on the Teix market.

  45. R+ November 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    Why are we complaining about Swisher?

    It’s Nady who is the weak link now. Atleast Swish has his high OBP to hang his hat on. What does Nady do well?

    Trade Nady, put Swisher in RF, and then go out and get a real 1B.

  46. Reno November 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    I think this is a good trade, but only if Swisher ends up in an OF spot. Without Tex our offense just isn’t improved enough from last year and I still can’t see us making the playoffs even if we add CC.

    Passing on Tex feels an awful lot like passing on Beltran. There is a reason guys get big contracts.

  47. harwood November 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    Do you people really believe this franchise would gamble on a position player after the year we had when there is a big money low risk all star waiting for a contract?

  48. mel November 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    vinny-b,

    Still holding out hope for Blalock? :)

  49. Michael November 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    WRITE THIS DOWN: at the end of CC’s & Tex’s next contract, Tex will be viewed as BY FAR the better deal.

    Say it out loud, “I’m going to give an over-worked, 300+ pound guy, who would rather play in his home state, a 6 year deal (in spite of history telling us it’s a bad trend)” —-doesn’t sound good, does it?

  50. John Sterling November 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    LOVE THIS TRADE

    “Swisher homers in the NICK if time”

    “SWISH…St. Nick delivers again!” It’s Christmas in June!!!

    ”…It is high… it is far it’s gone… a SWISHER SWEET for Nick” give that man a cigar!

    ” a Nick nack paddywack gives the Yanks the lead!!!!!!!”

  51. JT November 13th, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    Thank god they shed Betemit. He was taking up space and playing awful defense in the course of it.

    I want to know more about this Kanekoa Texeira guy. His numbers sound pretty good. Only 22. Sounds like he has a higher ceiling than the two pitchers the Yanks traded away.

  52. Reno November 13th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    “Trade Nady, put Swisher in RF, and then go out and get a real 1B.”

    I’d love for this to happen.

  53. Kill.Schill(ing) November 13th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    I’m okay with Swisher at 1B if they can figure out some way to persuade Bobby Abreu to return for a year or two. As SJ44 intimated in the last thread, evidently, this prospect has now become a possibility.

    I imagine that would mean sending Nady on his way. Good riddance. He doesn’t walk enough, His career .OBP is too low, he doesn’t take enough pitches, and he’s not that great a defender.

  54. mel November 13th, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    So if the majority of Yankee fans like the trade, what are the White Sox fans thinking?

    Who plays 1B there? Betemit? Teixeira?

  55. FAN 81 November 13th, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    If the Red Sox get Teixeria, we are royally screwed.

    I could totally see that though.

    We get RJ, they get Schilling.
    We get Pavano, they get Beckett.
    We get Igawa, they get Dice-K
    We get Nady, they get Bay
    We get Swisher, they get Teix

    No matter what, Cashman always seems to come up short vs. Theo. It’s like Theo is the Patriots and Cashman is the Jets lol

  56. rumor monger November 13th, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    They’ve still got Konerko under contract. I think it’s scary that Betemit could play 3B for them.

  57. Laura - Ready for '09 November 13th, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    If Cash lets Tex get away to one of our chief rivals, people will be complaining about that the same way they complained about Santana.

  58. feefoo November 13th, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    ” a Nick nack paddywack gives the Yanks the lead!!!!!!!”

    Wow… please stop.

  59. Wave Your Hat November 13th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    I don’t want Abreu back. His defense is just too bad. We desperately need some improved defense.

    We need to sign Texeira. If we do, then don’t trade Nady. With Nady and Swisher both we actually have some outfield depth which we need and almost never have.

    Without Texeira, I just can’t see the offense producing enough runs next year.

  60. Patrick November 13th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    I could see Nady being traded and the Yankees picking up a guy like Brian Giles (please no Abreu). I could also see Swisher and Nady sharing time in RF if the Yanks decide to get Tex. I think the most likely scenario is Swisher enters the year as the starting 1B.

  61. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story November 13th, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Brandon, algunas veces pienso que tu es el solo persona que no es loco aqui.

  62. Oddessy November 13th, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Nady was such a meaningless acquisition, its crazy. I liked Marte though, he will be a useful piece for us.

    We could have used Tabata for something far better than a .280ish hitter with a .320 OBP who strikes out 120 times and I didn’t even like Tabata.

    Cut your losses, get rid of Nady. He is just taking up space now.

  63. Reno November 13th, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    Why would the Red Sox go after Tex? That’s the least of my concerns right now. Priority number 1 should be understanding that our offense was just as much of a problem last season as our pitching was.

  64. Laura - Ready for '09 November 13th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    –So if the majority of Yankee fans like the trade, what are the White Sox fans thinking?

    Spoke to one of my WS buds and he wasn’t too impressed with the pitcher’s stats. I told him that I thought that Nunez was probably the better guy of the two.

    He was also disappointed that the WS didn’t move Konerko instead of Swisher. In the end, he said that the Yankees got the better end of the deal.

    Oh, yeah. He said that Ozzie and Swisher didn’t get along because Ozzie likes to be the only one talking and Swisher is a more vocal guy than the rest of the team.

  65. PBL November 13th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    One thing people aren’t considering is that even if we wanted Teixeira we might not have gotten him. Besides the Angels and Red Sox, the Orioles are going after him hard and they have hometown appeal. A nice part of this deal is that it guarantees a legitimate 1B at a decent contract, instead of having a chance at better 1B for what likely would have been a bad contract. Furthermore, the difference between Teixeira and Swisher isn’t as vast as some of you think it is. Consider:

    Nick Swisher Avg Career OPS+ = 112
    Mark Teixeira Avg Career OPS+ = 134

    And of the two, I think it is more likely Swisher has upside above his career average because he seems to have been misused and unlucky last year.

  66. sevrox November 13th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    Still think Yanks go for Tex – Swisher in CF – like the reference to O’Neill being traded for R. Kelly. Swisher OBP is @.360 – good move. He’ll do well in NY.

  67. Nick in SF in Pacifica November 13th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    (Rebecca: lollipop issues addessed in previous thread)

  68. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! November 13th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    John Sterling November 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    LOVE THIS TRADE

    “Swisher homers in the NICK if time”

    “SWISH…St. Nick delivers again!” It’s Christmas in June!!!

    ”…It is high… it is far it’s gone… a SWISHER SWEET for Nick” give that man a cigar!

    ” a Nick nack paddywack gives the Yanks the lead!!!!!!!”

    ———————————————————

    Um…

  69. vtred November 13th, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    Maybe they decided to pass on Tex and then go after Holliday next year especially after reading his dad’s comments?

    No way they could afford Tex AND Holliday in consecutive years.

    And if you asked me, I’d much prefer Holliday.

  70. Patrick November 13th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Shocking how fast people soured on Nady. He isn’t going to put up a .870 OPS like he did last year but I could see him settling in as a consistent .280/.340/.475 guy. With average defense, that’s really not bad. He’s a solid starting outfielder on any major league team.

    I could definitely see Nady being traded this offseason but you guys are really underrating him.

  71. t-rock November 13th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Swisher is a leader, he will command this clubhouse.

    Girardi will love him, so will the teammates.

  72. Reno November 13th, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    “Maybe they decided to pass on Tex and then go after Holliday next year especially after reading his dad’s comments?”

    I really hope this was a joke post.

  73. John Sterling November 13th, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    ok ok thats all i got – but you know sterling is thinkin them up as we comment

  74. Nick in SF in Pacifica November 13th, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    I am still pro-Nady.

    It’s always good to have Cal guys on the team.

  75. Peter Abraham November 13th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    Attention newcomers and/or idiots:

    You cannot use obscene words or partially spelled obscene words or the like when posting. Just because the Yankees made a trade does not waive these standards. This blog is part of a newspaper.

    If you are too stupid to comment without cursing, feel free not to comment.

  76. ANSKY November 13th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    As long as Tiexiera doesn’t go to Boston to play 1B I suppose I could see the upside to Swisher. Boston still could move their twinkie the Youkibater back to 3B and it’d be an overall uprgade for them.

    I also need to see him get those batting/OBP averages up. They seem to be his only real weakness.

    Maybe Ozzie Guiellen could’ve had something to do with it, but I still worry about that.

    Battign him anywhere between 6th & 9th might be fine. I hope he doesn’t bat immediately behind Cano. I think Cano could benefit from having a more serious hitter waiting in the on deck circle behind him.

  77. Brandon (TEIX IS NOT WORTH IT, GET CC !)..."Don't trade Robi !" November 13th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    last Yankees 1B to do this was

    http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.....5312808492

  78. steve November 13th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    did the rays ever extend carl crawford or is he a FA after next season?

  79. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! November 13th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    I haven’t soured on Nady. That face! That butt! We love ya X!

    ;)

  80. Brandon (TEIX IS NOT WORTH IT, GET CC !)..."Don't trade Robi !" November 13th, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    or this

    http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.....9153478800

  81. vinny-b (Hank Blalock for 1st base) November 13th, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    “Still holding out hope for Blalock?”

    Mel: CashMoney wouldn’t listen to me. Thank you for reminding me, on the signature tho.

  82. Redding November 13th, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    vtred,

    lol I don’t think Hollidays dad’s comments had any barring on this trade.

    However, you do bring up a good point. Maybe they felt he is a smarter long term investment than Teixeria and didn’t want to tie themselves up in a long term contract with Tex when Holliday is available next offseason.

    Cashman also realized $180 million for a 1st baseman is not the smartest idea.

  83. Outlawz November 13th, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    If Holliday puts up numbers anywhere close to his career numbers in Mcafee, he is going to get PAID and he will be worth it.

  84. joeman November 13th, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    said this many times here,Yanks need a 1st baseman,centerfielder & 2SP’s…this is a start

    BTW..the lefthanded RP was a good move, now use him the right way

  85. vinny-b (behold the sword of Urlacher) November 13th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    J E T S

  86. Brandon (TEIX IS NOT WORTH IT, GET CC !)..."Don't trade Robi !" November 13th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Ok laters.

  87. kd November 13th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    if tiexiera signs long term, where will jeter play after he signs his contract extension?

  88. Jose November 13th, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    When is his press conference?

    Is he going to even have a press conference?

  89. MooseCall November 13th, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    This deal makes no sense. If you want a medicore first baseman with decent power and no speed, give Giambi one more year.

  90. vinny-b (behold the sword of Urlacher) November 13th, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    “Maybe they felt he is a smarter long term investment than Teixeria and didn’t want to tie themselves up in a long term contract with Tex when Holliday is available next offseason.
    Cashman also realized $180 million for a 1st baseman is not the smartest idea”

    imagine that

    :)

  91. Carl79 November 13th, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    kd,

    Jeter will move to CF. Francessa suggested that as well a few days ago.

  92. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    My initial predictions:

    Manny stays with Dodgers, second option Phillies

    Teixeira stays with Angels, second option Orioles, third option Nationals

    Sabathia comes to Yankees, second option Dodgers if Manny not signed there.

    Burnett comes to Yankees, second option Braves

    Sheets stays with Brewers, second option to Yankees if Burnett not signed.

    Dempster stays with Cubs, second option Braves.

    Mets sign Fuentes or Kerry Wood.

    K-Rod signs with Rangers.

    Abreu signs with Cubs, second option Mets.

    Giambi signs with A’s, second option Angels, if Teixeira not signed.

    That’s a start, welcoming comments!

  93. just on old fashion love song November 13th, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    I thought Cashman kept saying he wanted a real first baseman. Swisher is OK, but not great. He doesn’t replace Giambi or Abreu in terms of his bat.

    The only up side I see is Betty is gone, but the offense took a big hit. I don’t like this trade.

  94. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! November 13th, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    Congrats to Alex and Derek on winning Sliver Slugger awards

  95. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! November 13th, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    and by Sliver..I mean Silver.

    :P

  96. joeman November 13th, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    I suggested that Jeter move to CF the day the Yankees got Arod….you know he could have play that position back then

  97. vin November 13th, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    my predictions:
    - Swisher is primary 1b
    - CC is signed
    - Pettitte and Mussina both return (the longer Moose takes making the decision the more likely he is to return IMO)
    - Abreu returns on a 2 year deal
    - Cash acquires a real, ML-caliber CF (sells high on Nady)

  98. vinny-b (behold the sword of Urlacher) November 13th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Mike Wilbon believes CC will go to California

  99. Avenger November 13th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    I actually like Jeter in CF then we can sign Frucal.

  100. PAT M. November 13th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Yankee Trader, looks like you covered it all…..As long as Sabathia doesn’t sign with Boston and or the Angels….I worry about Anaheim signing him more than I do Texeria re-signing

  101. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    “However, you do bring up a good point. Maybe they felt he is a smarter long term investment than Teixeria and didn’t want to tie themselves up in a long term contract with Tex when Holliday is available next offseason.”

    Not to mention Carl Crawford, Jason Bay and Rick Ankiel could also be available in 2010!

  102. dan 771 November 13th, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    vin,

    he probably will. thats why we need to have backup plans in place.

  103. Chopper November 13th, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    “Mark Teixeira just lost a lot of leverage.”

    Wow.

    The Yankees just saved the Red Sox A LOT of money on Teixeira.

  104. Tank November 13th, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    The 2010 class has a ton of nice OF’ers in it.

    Just in time considering Damon, Matsui, and Nady are all off the books.

  105. Brian M November 13th, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    If nothing else this deal removes the last problem position for the Yanks (assuming Posada and Matsui are healthy) and allows Cash to spend all of his time wooing CC and dreaming up trades for starting pitching.

    I have a few thoughts on potential upgrades for position players though:

    Assuming Posada and Matsui are healthy, and that Swisher plays 1st base, the only starting spots up for debate are center field and right field.

    In centre, Gardner opened some eyes. He draws walks, gets on base and shakes things up. Girardi is clearly a fan and Cashman wants to build a more athletic and dynamic team, so I think they’ll give him a shot. Melky has no value right now so they’ll want to give him a shot to redeem himself. If nothing else he is a young guy with a cannon for an arm and can fill-in in any outfiled spot, sounds like the 4th outfileder to me. If Gardner crashes and burns Melky has the experience to step in while they consider making changes during the season.

    I can’t see Cash paying Abreu for multiple yrs. And I think he’ll get an offer from somewhere, maybe the Mets, San Fran or Seattle, maybe even Oakland as a dark horse team?

    Nady is clearly pencilled in for RF. So Nady or Damon would have to get traded to open up a spot for more offense. Damon put up solid numbers and is in a contract yr. If Gardner struggles they’d need him to be the leadoff hitter. I can’t see him getting moved. He is a vet as well and by all accounts great in the clubhouse.

    Nady is cheap enough and has some potential, and should be solid but not remarkable. To me if the Yanks want to upgrade the offense they could package Nady with others, probably including Kennedy, and try to upgrade in RF.

    As things stand though, barring injury, we don’t have a problem position. The cover at catcher and SS is thin. So maybe an upgrade at utility infielder now that Betemit is gone will help, especially since the Yankees are pretty weak at SS in the upper levels of the minor leagues.

    Bobby Crosby is an excellent defender and Oakland want him off the books so they can go after Furcal. He’d be an expensive back-up (though it is only a 1 yr commitment), but if he can play 3rd as well he’d be an amazing defensive option (and a nice complement to Miranda’s power) off the bench. He is a decent baserunner and a more rounded player than Betemit. With the money we have saved at 1st base, and Mussina not shutting the door to a comeback, there could be money in the pot to spend a little extra there. Constantly playing Jeter while he’s hurt isn’t helping anyone.

  106. Temple of Doom November 13th, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    NICK SWISHER !!!

    3rd place, here we come!!!

  107. vin November 13th, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    I posted this on here a week or two ago, but…

    There’s no way the Angels don’t re-sign Teix. They decided to go the big-name route by dealing a young, cheap, quality 1st baseman for one with more name recognition and not much more value to the ballclub. If he’s not re-signed, then that trade will have been awful. Besides, for those who actually the games, how much more does Teix bring to the field than Kotchman? He’s slightly better in all categories, but not by enough to make a huge difference. Tony Reagins HAS to re-sign him.

  108. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    “As long as Sabathia doesn’t sign with Boston and or the Angels….I worry about Anaheim signing him more than I do Texeria re-signing”

    Angels pretty well set with starting pitching, and need to spend their money on bats.

    Only a select few teams this year will have the money to be players for the elite free agents, and it’s unlikely that any team, other than the Yankees signs more than one elite player.

    There will be a lot of free agents this year looking for jobs, in this economical environment-many with minor league or spring training offers.

  109. Yanks 1996 November 13th, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    Chopper, The happiest person on the planet right now is Epstein. Teixeria just fell into his lap without us bidding for him.

  110. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    Yankee Trader,
    I agree with most of your predictions. Krod to Mets. Burnett possibly to the Sox.

    Which one of these position players will get traded before the start of the season?
    a.Matsui
    b.Nady
    c.Damon
    d.Cano

  111. vin November 13th, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    edit: actually *watch* the games

  112. Brian M November 13th, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    I don’t think we saved the Sox much money on Tex. Honestly I can’t understand why they’d sign him anyway. They have solid guys on the corners now, and Lars Anderson killing in the minors. They have bigger worries than their offense.

    Seems more likely they go after Lowe, trade for a catcher with Texas, and sign some bullpen arms. I think Tex stays in Anaheim.

  113. Chopper November 13th, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    “The happiest person on the planet right now is Epstein.”

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

  114. Nick in SF November 13th, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    S.A., I think Edwar will win the Sliver Pitcher award!

  115. GreenBeret7 November 13th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    Yanks 1996
    November 13th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
    Chopper, The happiest person on the planet right now is Epstein. Teixeria just fell into his lap without us bidding for him.

    ________________________________________________________

    Name one team that’s going to trade for a third baseman with a bad hip and is owed nearly 25 million dollars and a NTC over the next two years?

  116. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    vin,
    I agree. The Angels gave too much to see Tex slip away. But if he does. I can see them going hard after C.C.(do you put a period after an initial to end a sentence?)

  117. Clint November 13th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    I’m interested to see our strategy with CC tonight.

    Do we lay in the weeds and wait for offers to float before we get involved?

    Do we go 6/$120 or some modest offer like that just to get the ball rolling?

    Do we throw our hat in the ring with Santana money right off the bat to scare away teams and send a message?

    Do we just throw out a blank check right off the bat and force CC’s hand to get it done quickly?

  118. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    Brian M-

    Good points in your 5:59 post.

    Would trading Nady and Kennedy for one year[ team option for 2010 year] of Magglio Ordonez do it for you? Detroit considering trading him.

  119. yankeepelotero November 13th, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    The team is down graded offensively from last season as it stands.nady is no regular RF and his numbers are not good enough to have him there full time. I hope that along with pitching the yanks upgrade their outfield because an outfield of an old damon, gardner/melky, and nady is flat out BRUTAL!

  120. vin November 13th, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    Also, there’s no way Theo goes for Teix… if injured, Lowell’s contract is an albatross, if healthy then its bearable considering the ballpark he plays in and his defense. And I’m not sure when, but eventually he’s going to have to pay BIG for Youkilis. As much as I hate the axe murderer-lookin guy he’s very close to being a top tier ballplayer. Excellent glove, hits for average, power, gets on base, and drives Yankee fans crazy.

  121. Outlawz November 13th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    Lowell will have plenty of takers if he passes his physical. Remember, he took less money to go to Boston. Plenty of teams need a 3rd baseman and he is one of the best out there. He is a winner, a leader, and a grinder– every team could use him.

    Moving Lowell is pretty easy if they want to do it. They need to eat some of the contract, but its not impossible to do if they want Teixeria that badly.

  122. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2008 at 6:11 pm

    Teixeira is not going to be a Red Sox. Theo has enough problems dealing with Boras to sign an extension for Bay before he becomes a free agent. Sox need a catcher and bullpen help, plus possibly a shortstop.

  123. vin November 13th, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    My guess is that Theo lays in the weeds and snatches up Ben Sheets out of nowhere. He traded for an injury-plagued Beckett and that’s worked out pretty well so far.

  124. Nick in SF November 13th, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    Nice point just made on SF radio: if you really want to see if Torii Hunter is a gold glove center fielder, give him Vlad in right and Manny in left.

  125. harwood November 13th, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    I really hope we get Sheets ourselves.

  126. 86w183 November 13th, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    I also cannot see the Sawx as players for Tex. Lowell is untradeable with two years @ $ 12 M still to go and coming off hip surgery. Youkilis is too valuable to jerk around… Tex doesn’t fit unless he’s going to play CF or SS.

  127. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    “I’m interested to see our strategy with CC tonight.”

    “Do we throw our hat in the ring with Santana money right off the bat to scare away teams and send a message?”——-YES!!
    6 years and 138 million to start!!

  128. JimM November 13th, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    “I didn’t realize that Cashman was visting the space station.”

    The funniest post of the day!

  129. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! November 13th, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    S.A., I think Edwar will win the Sliver Pitcher award!
    ——–

    Hahaha

  130. vin November 13th, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    That is a really good point, Nick. It may ultimately be in Manny’s best interest to re-up with LAD for a couple years then sign a 2 or 3 year deal in the AL at that point when the economy has improved (hopefully). I’m pretty sure Manny could be a great hitter into his late 40s – and that’s what he’d be paid to do.

  131. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    Good point GB7,
    No one is going to want to spend 25 mil on a grey haired third baseman with a bad hip. Theo and the Sox are stuck with him. This is the Santana deal all over again. They jumpped into the picture just to jack up the price. They will do the same with the free agent pitchers.

  132. KnowBaseball November 13th, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    do you guys watch baseball… I forgot that signing big time bats have helped so much in the past. I guy like Swisher could be VERY useful. Signing everyone is never the answer.

  133. Mr. Exceptional November 13th, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    I think Tex ends up in Anaheim now, or somewhere we haven’t heard of yet, but not Boston. Good move by Cashman with Swisher.

    I think Boston would have worked to keep Tex away from New York or would have tried to make his contract a bigger albatross then it was going to be. I don’t think Tex scares anyone in Anaheim. He could have been scary in Boston or New York…but Anaheim not so much. They’re already a 90 win team and he couldn’t push them to the series.

    Anaheim needs him, as people have said, they gave up too much to get him. Look for Boras to inject another team in the mix now.

    Cashman is getting smarter.

  134. Peter Abraham November 13th, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    Just FYI:

    Swisher is NOT playing CF. Cashman said it.

    Jeter is not changing positions. Neither is Cano or Posada.

    This does not mean Teixeira is going to Boston. They can’t trade Lowell or afford to eat the $24 million he is owed. Beyond that, Teixeira is said to have a lot of animosity for Boston based on how he was treated he they drafted him originally out of h.s. Boston also does not have the payroll available, they are not raising ticket prices and their best prospect is a 1B. You have to think before you just react and post “OMG, Boston is getting Tex.”

    There is no chance – none – the Yankees were going to go dollar for dollar in terms of replacing the payroll coming off the books. They are not adding $85 million in salary to the 2009 payroll. It is a total fantasy to think they were getting two pitchers and Teixeira. And forget Manny.

    The Angels have made it pretty clear they’re done with K-Rod. Guess who they were going to spend their money on? Teixeira. When Tony Reagins said last week they were going to “aggressively pursue” him, he wasn’t joking.

    It’s pitching, pitching, pitching. They very well may consider the lineup complete outside of a tweak or two. They believe that a healthy Posada, a healthy Matsui, A-Rod not missing three weeks and an improved Cano will make up a lot of the offense they’ll miss from Abreu and Giambi. Beyond that, the game is changing. This is as much a run prevention sport in the post steroids era as it is a run scoring sport.

    I love my readers. But some of y’all have lost your minds here.

  135. vin November 13th, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    I also can’t see Derek Lowe leaving the Dodgers. He’s pitched like an ace over there… why would he give that up to pitch to a 4.75+ ERA in the AL East. Hopefully CC feels differently.

  136. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    “I really hope we get Sheets ourselves.”

    If we could land him for 2 or 3 years. I would prefer him over Burnett. Not sure who would hit the dl quicker. Maybe we can sign him soon and sell C.C.on following his teammate here. 2 for 1 package deal.

  137. Outlawz November 13th, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    Clint,

    Sherman suggested that we are going to blow away the field tomorrow and start off with Santana money.

    I think thats a good strategy. Set the bar high and make other teams realize what they are getting themselves into. Don’t waste time tip-toeing to the finish line, sprint there.

  138. Brian M November 13th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    Thanks Yankee Trader,

    to be honest though I’d leave Ordonez alone. I think Cashman wants a younger more athletic team. The thing is, if Nady is pretty solid, so there aren’t too many big upgrades who might be available.

    If we add Cano to the mix (with Nady and Kennedy) we could go after Markakis, although Baltimore have to be the worst team in the league to deal with. It would allow them to trade Roberts, while we could go after Hudson. I can’t see Baltimore making another meaningful trade in the next 10 yrs though.

    I haven’t seen much of Ludwick to know if he can keep putting up big numbers, but it might be worth kicking the tyres on a deal. He is certainly available, although I think St Louis are looking for big bats in return.

  139. AP November 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    Bye Bye Teixeria

  140. vinny-b (behold the sword of Urlacher) November 13th, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    “This is as much a run prevention sport in the post steroids era as it is a run scoring sport”

    music to my ears.

    bring back the run-scoring double. Chicks dig the long-ball. But i’m not a chick.

  141. Fran November 13th, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    I like the trade for Swisher. Especially if it came down to Betemit at 1st vs. Swisher.

    If anyone is interested, Yankees Hot Stove is on YES at 6:30.

  142. Mr. Exceptional November 13th, 2008 at 6:28 pm

    If Moose comes back I think Cashman should take the risk on Sheets. I like Sheets a lot. Sabathia and Sheets would be great additions.

    Sheets is much better than Pavano ever was and seems to be more of a gamer. So I don’t agree with those comparisons.

  143. AP November 13th, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    I have no problem overpaying CC by $30-$40 million

    As long as he comes here, thats all that matters.

  144. Tom November 13th, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    “Tie ‘em up at put ‘em in my car”

    -Giradi on recruiting CC

  145. Brian (Red Sox fan) November 13th, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    The Red Sox 3, 5 and 6 hitters (Ortiz, Lowell and Drew) are aging, and spent copious amounts of time on the DL last year. That very fact means that the Sox will be players in the Texeira bidding, and the trade for Swisher just lightened the financial outlay.

    I fully realize that signing Texeira gives them a glut of corner infielders, but Theo came perilously close to going to the playoffs with NONE of the middle of the order (excepting Youkilis).

    I don’t think he’ll risk that again. They will make Tex a handsome offer

  146. Frontier November 13th, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    Sheets would be a good signing if its a short term deal.

  147. just on old fashion love song November 13th, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    I would rather have Giambi at First than Swishy. The guy just isn’t all that great.

    Offense was down as it was, now no Abreu and Giambi, and they get the mighty Swisher? Really? He’s not fast. He is OK but not great at first. His bat needs fixing. He had speculation and rumors about PED use. Where exactly is the upside in this?

    And what happens if the Yankees don’t land up grades in pitching? With this offense the pitching has to be quite a lot better to make up for the lowered offense.

  148. vinny-b (behold the sword of Urlacher) November 13th, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    i love Joe Girardi

  149. harwood November 13th, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    2010

    CC
    Wang
    Joba
    Sheets (healthy?)
    Hughes (good?)

    5 Aces

  150. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    Peter-

    Thank you for trying to get people here to come to their senses. There are 6 skyboxes unsold, and mention of a 185 million payroll was reported before the markets got worse.

    Manny is a star in LA, like Kobe, and would be a FOOL to leave the Dodgers. Angels don’t need a DH-have Vlad.

    Still say Manny’s a Dodger and Teixeira goes back to the Angels unless outbid by Orioles or Nationals, because he’s just like Boras, and wants the most money!!

  151. Nick in SF in Pacifica November 13th, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    Which Red Sox hitters aren’t aging?

  152. Mr. Exceptional November 13th, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    I think 4 years for Sheets would be good. You’ve got Hughes, Joba and others coming. Roll the dice on Sheets.

  153. Tom November 13th, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    Juan Miranda, has he ever played the OF in the Minors?

  154. harwood November 13th, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    “Which Red Sox hitters aren’t aging?”

    Actually they have the Highlander on the bench for an occasional PH. He’s got some decent power.

  155. Brian M November 13th, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    Now that I’ve had a while to think about it, while I do really like the trade, 1st base is still the position where we could make the biggest improvement offensively. Swisher will work the count and hit 25 homeruns but he will also do well to hit .250. The trade gives us a solid guy to put out there, and I am sure Cash didn’t get him just to flip him, but maybe trading him with Kennedy, and a few others for a top 1B lets us at a big bat without taking on the dollars needed for Texiera.

    Apparently Cashman has already been knocked back in an approach for Berkman. Maybe someone like that could be available for a deal including Swisher as a ready made replacement, with Cano and Kennedy, a bullpen arm, and some decent minor league guys.

    Arizona have a lot of holes to fill in their pitching staff, and with the Big Unit filing today they might consider a deal of Swisher and Kennedy for Conor Jackson. Jackson doesn’t have the power of Swisher but he could hit .300 and get on base a lot. He is only 26 as well, cheap, and is another guy who can play in the outfield.

    The cost of retaining their pitching is also going to hurt the Cubs. If they want to add a bat, they might be willing to give up Lee for a cheap price. He is probably a riskier bet health wise though.

    Maybe we could send Cincinnati Hank Steinbrenner for Joey Votto?

  156. Tom November 13th, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    Nick, Ted Williams.

    (To Soon?)

  157. JJ November 13th, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    Damon, Jeter, Matsui, A-Rod, Posada, Swisher, Cano, Nady, Gardner.

    WHERES THE BEEF?

  158. Brian M November 13th, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    Miranda is an average 1B defensively and I doubt he could play any other position. He can’t be a regular either though cos LHP just kills him. He could be an interesting guy in a platoon though cos of his power vs RHP.

  159. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    As far as recruiting Sabathia- he wants people to come to him. Therefore the key recruiters should be Hal, Brian, and Joe, as well as the Captain-Jeter, the catcher-Posada, and his closer-Rivera. Should be like fraternity/sorority rush week-SHOW HIM THE LOVE+VIDEO OF HIS NEW DIGS!

  160. Avenger November 13th, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    Swisher = Betemit with power and a high OBP

  161. Brian M November 13th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    Harwood, my fav comment ever!

    ‘“Which Red Sox hitters aren’t aging?”
    Actually they have the Highlander on the bench for an occasional PH. He’s got some decent power.’

    Thanks man.

  162. Chopper November 13th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    “Boston also does not have the payroll available,”

    Pete… do a little homework first.

    Schill off the books.
    Manny, off the books.
    Timlin, off the books.
    Varitek, off the books.

    The Red Sox had lowered payroll going into the 2008 season, and they have made it EVEN lower… in the $100M-$105M dollar range.

    Mike Lowell is movable. The 3rd basemen market is weak this offseason. Philly would take him… they wanted to sign him last season.

    In the end… Money talks. Or is CC really not going to sign with the Yankees? Talk was he wants to stay on the West Coast and in the NL.

  163. 12345 November 13th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZi-zaOshQ

  164. Mr. Exceptional November 13th, 2008 at 6:42 pm

    Conor Jackson is a butcher at first base.

    Swisher is the first baseman get used to it. It’ll be a good trade.

    Cashman can now focus entirely on pitching and any trades he might like to make.

  165. Tom November 13th, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    Brian M. I know Miranda’s M.O. as a hitter. I was just wondering if he could be a bench player next season. He kills RHP-.970 OPS(in the minors at least).

    http://www.minorleaguesplits.c.....?pl=506673

  166. JJ November 13th, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    OY!
    SIMILAR BATTERS THRU AGE 27:
    Greg Vaughn (976)
    Bob Allison (954)
    Jose Cruz (943)
    Cory Snyder (943)
    Carmelo Martinez (941)
    Phil Plantier (939)
    John Milner (938)
    Bob Robertson (937)
    Preston Wilson (937)
    Austin Kearns (936)

  167. NongEyeJon November 13th, 2008 at 6:44 pm

    Swisher will be this year’s Scott Brosius…I hope. The guy is only 27.

  168. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    “2010

    CC
    Wang
    Joba
    Sheets (healthy?)
    Hughes (good?)

    5 Aces”

    Uhh Harwood. You must not have gotten the memo. We decided to tone down the Franchise expectations from now on. So can you re work you numbers and put in there 4 aces and a #3. Dont want Phil to get killed for not being lights out.

    Lets say the Sox sign Tex Brian. So does Lowell go behind the plate in that case or do they have him be the third base coach?

  169. NongEyeJon November 13th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    Chopper…how exactly is Lowell moveable? With a bum hip and being as old as he…AND with that contract…hardly.

  170. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    “Damon, Jeter, Matsui, A-Rod, Posada, Swisher, Cano, Nady, Gardner.

    WHERES THE BEEF?”

    Pena, Longoria,Iwamura,Upton,Bartlett,Crawford, Gross, Zobrist, Navarro,

    WHERE’S THE BEEF?

    Kazmir, Shields, Garza, Jackson, Sonnanstine- THERE’S THE BEEF!!

  171. Brian M November 13th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    jj, it isn’t a bad line-up is it?

    I think we have gotten a bit spoiled lately. No team in the league expects to put out superstars at every position except us. Sometimes guys like Nady, Gardner and Swisher can be great guys in big spots when the pressure is all on Jeter and ARod to deliver. Just ask Scott Brosius.

    If Posada is healthy and Cano rebounds then our main worry will be starting pitching. Hopefully Muss will come back though and Sabathia will go with the highest bidder, which I assume would be us.

  172. LathamJoe November 13th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    I like this trade for Swisher. Those that talk about “getting a real first baseman” are comparing Swisher to Teixiera. Swisher is a damn good fielding first basemen and has long ball potential, has the right attitude which will be a plus to team chemistry and (barring lasty season) has a decent OBP. At 27 years old (and being a former 1st round pick)) he still has loads of potential. Of course he’s not Mark Teixiera – he’s not gonna cost $275 Mil for the next 10 years either!
    This deal further illustrates the Yankees plan to throw the kitchen sink at Sabathia and one other front line pitcher.

    BTW, Juan Miranda is putting up terrific numbers in the Arizona Fall League and may be one-two years away from a MLB roster spot.

  173. Mr. Exceptional November 13th, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    The Sox are never going to be able to replace Manny.

    They need their young stars to continue to overperform because much like the older Yankees the other guys are on the decline. Ortiz, Lowell, Varitek (if they sign him), Wakefield, etc…

    I’m loving the way baseball is headed in the post-steriod era. Reminds me of the 70′s early 80′s.

    People need to look back on that era and see that not everyone was a big bopper.

  174. Brian M November 13th, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    Fair enough Tom. So to answer your question, aside from 1B the only position Miranda could handle is DH.

  175. EricNS November 13th, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    bad move if it means no Teixeira at !B

  176. Tom November 13th, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    Who bats 3rd? Matsui?

  177. O*Line November 13th, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    Let the Sox get Teixeria this year

    We will get Holliday AND Crawford in 09. All of our OF’ers are off the books, so we can afford it.

    This winter should be focused on pitching.

  178. vinny-b (behold the sword of Urlacher) November 13th, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    Tyler Kepner = the boy in the movie “The Boys From Brazil”

  179. Mr. Exceptional November 13th, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    Players like Markakis from the O’s are the future. I’d love for that guy to be on the Yanks.

  180. James 3D November 13th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

    This move only makes sense if we sigh Teixeria

    Nady-Swisher-Gardner is an awful bottom of the order.

  181. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

    “BTW, Juan Miranda is putting up terrific numbers in the Arizona Fall League and may be one-two years away from a MLB roster spot.”

    Isnt the AFL where the Eric Duncan won the MVP? Miranda from what i hear cant field. Im o.k. with him on the bench. But i dont need to re live Giambi trying to throw someone out at second. A couple years from now we might be talking about Montero playing first.

    All of you that say Swishers production just isnt good enough. Are forgetting what year we’re going into. Yes 09=ODD. Which of coarse means Arod will produce as much as two all stars. So its all good!!

  182. Brian M November 13th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

    OLine, I really want to see if Gardner can handle centre though. I like him a lot, and can see him being like a young Juan Pierre but also able to draw a walk. I actually have more faith in him than Austin Jackson, who has great tools but seems like the streakiest hitter on the planet. I want Cashman to build the system and bring young guys through, but if he moves Jackson this winter while his value is high, I’ll not be complaining.

    As for Holliday, we don’t need a guy with Boras as an agent looking for a $20M per contract that will take him well past his most productive years.

    Crawford, maybe.

  183. Sevendust November 13th, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    I have a feeling they did this because they are prepared to blow the doors away for CC and they won’t have enough money left over for Teix. They also want to get another starter which will probably be $16-18 million

    So those 30-40% higher than the field numbers that are floating around for CC look like they are accurate.

  184. Brian M November 13th, 2008 at 7:00 pm

    The thing nobody is taking into account with Swisher though, is that although he spent last year in the outfiled, aside from Doug Mientkiewicz, he’d be the best defensive 1B we’ve had in 10 yrs.

  185. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 7:00 pm

    Gardner = Bubba Crosby will be our centerfielder. I expect them to upgrade that spot after we sign 2 aces.

  186. West side November 13th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    Ahhh I missed Yankee Hot Stove.

    The Girardi segment at the beginning was good.

  187. jm8 November 13th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    12345

    good post – it seems he hates Beckett – Thats a good start.

    Does anyone think Girardi asked Cash to get him?

  188. JimmyH November 13th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    “This move allows the Yankees to focus their attention (and money) on starting pitching. Mark Teixeira just lost a lot of leverage.”
    Pete-
    Mark Teixeira didn’t just lose a lot of leverage. The Red Sux just gained a lot of leverage, in getting Tex.

  189. Patrick November 13th, 2008 at 7:03 pm

    “Nady-Swisher-Gardner is an awful bottom of the order.”

    No its not. Two guys with .800 OPS or better in the bottom third? That’s really freaking good. Also, I doubt Gardner will be the starting CF to begin the year.

  190. YANKS IN 2010 November 13th, 2008 at 7:04 pm

    Great move cashman…

    More younger, flexible, hungrier, and cheaper players please

  191. NITRO November 13th, 2008 at 7:04 pm

    Ozzie ruined Swisher… made him play CF and bad leadoff and didn’t let him be himself.

    He is the type of player that Girardi will love if he lets him be himself.

  192. Bat November 13th, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    The notion that the Phillies want Lowell is ridiculous. They just won the World Series with a Gold Glove caliber 3B who got some very big hits for them. The Sox may find a new home for Lowell, if they even want to deal him, but Philly will not be it. Tony Masseratti started this foolish idea in the Boston Herald and now is it gaining traction with the mindless idiots who believe what they read.

  193. Paul November 13th, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    Pete — I’m with you here. And let’s not forget that this is the FIRST move, not the LAST. Cashman plays a patient game and we should not get ahead of ourselves.

    As things stand right now, they don’t look bad going into next year. The Yanks have an option for first or corner outfield in Swisher, so we can say good bye to Giambi and Abreu (unless they are planning on trading Damon or Matsui). Tex no longer has them over a barrel but they could sign him if he isn’t asking for insane money and they can move Damon, Matsui, or even Swisher.

    The key for what we know is on the table is that now they can focus on Sabathia, who is the man who can truly turn their team around. A rotation led by CC, a healthy Wang, and a healthy Joba can stand up against anyone, and let’s not give up on Phil Hughes. The pen is stronger and deeper than it’s been since 2000 and Girardi seems to be able to use it well. The big question marks are whether and to what extent Posada, Cano, Jeter, and ARod come back to the levels we’re used to seeing them at.

    Let’s all look forward to an entertaining hot stove legue, and thanks again Pete for keeping it going.

  194. Katie November 13th, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    Okay, wow, I love the fact that everyone thinks the Red Sox would have been in the mix for Tex even if we didn’t get Swisher.

    Who said the Yanks arn’t going to try and get him? And why the heck would Cashman sit around and LET Theo take Tex? The Yankees have not closed the door on him and I bet they will still bid on him just to drive the price up so Boston won’t get it.

    My guess, he stays with the Angels. If not there, look for Baltimore to get him. As for the Nationals, they have said they will be serious players but I doubt they have the money to land him and he will not solve all of their problems.

  195. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    Brian M,
    I havnt really paid attention to Swishers fielding. But is he better than Oelrud and Clark? If so, then thats going to be refreshing to see. Especially if he can field bunts and turn 2.

  196. vinny-b (behold the sword of Urlacher) November 13th, 2008 at 7:09 pm

    “Mark Teixeira didn’t just lose a lot of leverage. The Red Sux just gained a lot of leverage, in getting Texeria”

    no they didn’t. Texeria is not a homeless person on side of the interstate, holding up a sign ‘will work for food’

  197. Katie November 13th, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    S.o.S.- Swisher is an above average fielder. He can make great plays and has his faults.

    Nobody expects much of him, so look for him to do well. He will thrive in New York with his never give up and play hard attitude and he can help the team.

  198. PAT M. November 13th, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    35 dingers from Nick …..

  199. Mike November 13th, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    You really think we arent going to bid on Tex ? Nady, Matsui, and Damon are all as good as gone after next year.. Why would we get this guy just to play 1st base ? I dont think so my Yankee friends… What are we going to bank on Ajax and Gardner then sign one of Crawford, Holliday or another FA.. Doubt it.. This guy is going to be an outfielder, Im telling you.. It just makes more sense for the future.. A lineup with Swish + Tex is better than Swish + Gardner/Melky.. Tex is the safest bet why not give him the money and turn our team into the best lineup in the league… Adding Tex and Swish is awesome.. We could still sign CC and Burnett/Sheets/Lowe and still have a payroll around 200 or less..

  200. Katie November 13th, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    Pat M, I’ll take 35 from Nick any day.

    Let’s hope those are with a couple men on base too…

  201. Jeremy November 13th, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    The argument that this trade is bad because it prevents us from getting Teixeira is nonsense.

    We have no guarantee of getting Teixeira no matter what. The “just outbid everyone else” mentality is stupid; at a certain point, no player is worth the money and years.

    Plus, we’re not somehow banned from bidding for Teixeira now. Pete’s point, which I agree with, is that the Yankees GAINED LEVERAGE in negotiating for Teixeira now because Boras can no longer use the Yankees’ lack of an adequate 1B against them. In other words, the Yankees no longer MUST HAVE Teixeira. They still could get him.

    One of two things is probably going to happen. Either the Angels or some other rich team will offer Teixeira an insane contract and the Yankees will decline to top it, because he just isn’t worth the money and years. The Yankees will spend their Teixeira money on Sabathia and other pitchers instead.

    Or, no one makes a crazy offer for Teixeira, the Yankees enter the bidding in earnest, and there’s a reasonable chance they end up with him. Then no one will care that Cashman said Swisher will be the 1B. They will put him in CF/RF and no one will complain.

  202. Katie November 13th, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    Agreed Jeremy… 100% agreed

  203. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    lol.vinny. You mean he isnt going to have the same problem Spreewell had in feeding his family?

  204. Patrick November 13th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    Damon LF
    Jeter SS
    Rodriguez 3B
    Matsui DH
    Posada C
    Swisher 1B
    Cano 2B
    Nady RF
    Gardner CF

    I see potential upgrades in RF and CF. I’d like to keep Nady but I doubt he reproduces the year he had in 2008. I still think Nady will be good enough in RF just not as good as 08. If Brian Giles is available, pull the trigger! Upgrades offense and defense. The only problem is, we’ve had no confirmation that the Padres are going to have a firesale and Giles is under contract for very little money this year.

  205. Katie November 13th, 2008 at 7:18 pm

    Imagine if the Yankees sign Lowe before they do CC…(It’t probably won’t happen, but what if?)

    How many people on here would go crazy and claim the Yankees have no chance?

  206. PAT M. November 13th, 2008 at 7:18 pm

    For all that has been since the trade, Jeremy may have just layed on the most accurate scenero……I still want Texeria, however 1b just doesn’t look as bleak as it did about two hours ago….

  207. Second Base Yankee Stadium November 13th, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    For me, there is only one question to determine if Swisher is an upgrade over Giambi–as a hitter, does he use all fields, or will we have to watch a replay of the Gambino’s futile efforts to drive outside pitches deep into the stands–only to end in slow dribblers in the dirt at second base? Any of you player personnel guys have an answer for this?

  208. Al from BK( Fit CC for pinstripes. C'mon Jets!) November 13th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    What a terrible move.

  209. ryan November 13th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    swisher looks good coming off the bench….

    get Tex….our bats are getting older and less productive…

    forget CC…to fat + too many innings = injury prone

  210. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Jeremy,
    Excellent point. Dont forget not long ago we swooped in and signed Damon. Who would have thought we would have done that after Johnny had said he would never play for us?

    Katie,
    Thanks. Anyone is an upgrade over what we had and im all for grinders.

  211. Katie November 13th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    I agree Pat, I’d rather have Swisher than Miranda/ Posada/ Betemit platoon at 1B

  212. vinny-b (behold the sword of Urlacher) November 13th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    “You mean he isnt going to have the same problem Spreewell had in feeding his family”

    SoS: lol. Funny you mention Spreewell. PJ Carlesimo was on tv today, and still had the imprints on his throat.

  213. Jeremy November 13th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    And I agree with Pete, Katie, and anyone else who thinks the Angels will end up with Teixeira. Once a team with money decides it MUST have a player, it gets that player. The Yankees have been that team plenty of times – it gave ARod a $275-300 million contract after all.

    If the Angels really want to go down that route, the best thing for the Yankees to do is get out of the way. I am a big Teixeira fan and I’ve written in support of signing him, but I am a bigger fan of the Yankees winning a championship. This team needs flexibility more than anything else, and they can only getting it by signing and trading for a number of effective players. If they start losing payroll flexibility because they spend more than they should have on Teixeira, they will suffer in the short and long term.

  214. Jake November 13th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    harwood,

    you are KILLING me!!

    Hughes as our 5th starter? that makes zero sense…I ranted about this for 2 or 3 hours yesterday and while I got my point across, I think I should reiterate:

    VOTE NO ON HUGHES IN THE ROTATION (until he proves himself, which he definitely HAS NOT)

  215. bodhisattva November 13th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    If having Swisher means Miranda gets a shot vs. righties, I am all for this. Miranda is a sleeping giant lefty slugger, and can hit to all fields, and having now seen him as opposed to merely hearing about him, I believe he will be able to eventually hit lefties because he appears to be a gifted hitter. He’s a lot more athletic than I was led to believe. Goes to show , you have to see these guys for yourself.

  216. Patrick November 13th, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    “How many people on here would go crazy and claim the Yankees have no chance?”

    It would be like this times one million:

    “What a terrible move.”

    “forget CC…to fat + too many innings = injury prone”

    hahahahah

  217. Katie November 13th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    History has proven you don’t have to have the best players to win a championship.

    Look at the Rays, look at the Phillies, seriously look how far Boston got this year without their “top” guys producing or being injured.

    We should see Swish before we start jumping on him. Who’s to say Tex would come here and thrive? Honestly, I see the Yankee fans jumping on him just like Alex and I doubt he will be able to handle that.

  218. vinny-b (behold the sword of Urlacher) November 13th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    Brian Giles wouldn’t play for a New York team, if it meant saving himself from the electric-chair.

    please. No Brian Giles talk

  219. Jake November 13th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    All great points by Peter regarding Tex going to Boston. Not happening unless they get rid of Lowell which ain’t happenin unless they EAT a large chunk of his contract which AIN’T happenin.

    He’ll get his payday in Anaheim.

    Swisher is a solid pickup, cheap enough, and able to fill 1B or a corner OF spot. Switch Hitter with power. Just needs a change of scenery. I watched him drop many a bomb in Oakland a couple years back so hopefully Kevin Long can get him on track unlike Ozzie “I’m Insane” Guillen.

    Now the Yankees only need to focus on starting pitching. Love it. Cross your fingers for the big lefty.

    Oh, and on a side note, sign Pettitte asap.

    Oh, and on another side note, VOTE NO ON BEN SHEETS!!!

  220. Mark Alan November 13th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    I’m glad Cashman followed our advice and acquired Texeira. The downside, though, is that he can’t play first base and his name’s not Mark.

  221. Katie November 13th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    Very true Patrick. That’s why I said that. It would be worse and most of the people here would say we are done forever.

    I think it’s so funny how people are speculating that Swisher was a horrible move. We got rid of Beti-sucks, and 2 pitchers that we have never seen pitch and have no clue how they will end up being.

    I think we stole Swisher from the White Sox. Now we can just wait and see how he does on the big stage

  222. vinny-b (behold the sword of Urlacher) November 13th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    J E T S

    JETS, JETS, JETS !!!

  223. MMF November 13th, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    From what Cashman said, Swisher is playing first and the yanks are not getting Teixeira.

    That aside, does anybody think this deal opens up the door a little wider to getting Manny?

    Assuming Giambi and Abreu are out of the picture for 09 (pretty safe to say IMO), and also assuming Matsui probably cannot play a full season, and that Posada will catch mostly (fingers crossed), do the yanks seem a little understaffed at DH?

    I didn’t like Manny on the Red Sox, but boy would I like him on the Yankees. Pretty safe to say it would relieve a ton of pressure from A-Rod.

    Also, getting Manny may also eleviate some of the potential loss of offense when they got Swisher instead of Teixeira (I think we can all agree there were questions whether he wanted to come to NY, which probably prompted the Swisher trade in part).

    What’s Manny looking for? 4 yrs? I think its doable.

    Big splash, new stadium. Hate to say it, but aside from some new starters, Manny could probably help the yanks make a big push in the last “good” years of Jeter, Posada, Rivera & Co.

    Yup, he’s a nutcase and left the Red Sox like a complete punk. I think a definite possibilty in NY in 09.

    Any thoughts?

  224. YANKS IN 2010 November 13th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    History has proven you don’t have to have the best players to win a championship.
    __________________

    Katie, I completely agree…I have been accused many times on this blog of advocating mediocrity for saying the same thing…

    Sign CC and Lowe and call it an offseason…

  225. Al from BK( Fit CC for pinstripes. C'mon Jets!) November 13th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    I don’t get this move Swisher K’s a ton. He isn’t that athletic and he batted .219 this year. Granted CC is the focus but Nick Swisher can’t be Cash’s answer for the future of first base.

  226. Reacher November 13th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    The Angels will do whatever is necessary to sign Tex, who, we are told, still harbors a resentment to Boston (as many do for the way they deal with their personnel) dating back to the free agency draft in 99. If the Yankees indeed do not intend to make a competitive bid for him, he will be an Angel. However, and contrary to the thoughts of many, including Pete, IMO the Yankees still need and will secure a “Big Bat” to account for the shortfall/power outage. To rely on the current roster consisting of the Matsui and Posada’s to remain, or more properly get, healthy (and replenish the power outage, is dubious and certainly not prudent given that 2009 will be a most important year for obvious reasons. To believe otherwise does not take into account the realities of the totality of Yankeedom at this point in time. My assessment of Cashman’s comments is that he is playing it very close to the vest and, like a good negotiator, is not disclosing his hand (other than regarding pitching); to reach certain conclusions at this point is being extremely shortsighted.

  227. Jeremy November 13th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    The Texeira we did acquire is actually a pretty good relief prospect. His AA numbers are impressive.

  228. vinny-b (behold the sword of Urlacher) November 13th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    AL: maybe Swisher is the new 4th OF’er/utility

  229. Al from BK( Fit CC for pinstripes. C'mon Jets!) November 13th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    This only makes sense if this is simply saving money for CC and we make a move for Manny.

  230. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    One position that no one is talking about is the 8th inning. If im not mistaken, Wood is a free agent. Thoughts on going after him for the 8th?

  231. Tom November 13th, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    “Doesn’t matter if you get CC and clone him 4 times, we scored 200 less runs than last year”

    And yet the Yankees still scored more runs than half of the teams in the playoffs-LAA, LAD, TB, MIL.

    Yankee starters averaged 5.5 innings per start and had an ERA of 4.58.

  232. jay destro November 13th, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    Yankees not being in on Teixeira is this year’s bubba crosby in center

  233. YANKS IN 2010 November 13th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    One position that no one is talking about is the 8th inning. If im not mistaken, Wood is a free agent. Thoughts on going after him for the 8th?
    ________________

    Yesterday we discussed the fact that we are loaded in the bullpen: Bruney, Marte, Veras, Ramirez…I’ll take my chance with them over Wood..

    Plus the guys cross-town need him more…

  234. Al from BK( Fit CC for pinstripes. C'mon Jets!) November 13th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    “AL: maybe Swisher is the new 4th OF’er/utility”

    Thats just what we need another 4th OF. Can we please get some quality players in here. Nick Swisher does not equal the production of losing Abreu and the Stache.

  235. vinny-b (behold the sword of Urlacher) November 13th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    SoS: don’t see a need for Wood (no pun). We are loaded with relievers. Including Melancon, who will be ready (or near ready) this year.

  236. Brad November 13th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    Once the Angels said they’ll part company with K-Rod, it gave a loud signal that they are going full bore after Teixeira.
    Scott Boras may try some east coast leverage but when the dust clears Texeira will stay with the Angels.

  237. harwood November 13th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    funny white sox blog take on the trade

    http://www.southsidesox.com/20.....e-transcri

  238. Reacher November 13th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    I am curious why Pete says “forget Manny”. Is there a factual basis for that comment or is it his own opinion (to which he is entitled, of course, as is any one on this board)?

  239. Patrick November 13th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    “please. No Brian Giles talk”

    Sorry brah I didn’t know you were the Brian Giles expert. Do you speak with him much? Cool guy?

  240. Al from BK( Fit CC for pinstripes. C'mon Jets!) November 13th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    “Yankees not being in on Teixeira is this year’s bubba crosby in center”

    Exactly Cash will be torched next season when Tex is in Boston driving in 100 runs and Swisher is coming off the bench.

  241. vinny-b -Behold the sword of Urlacher- November 13th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    (loaded with relievers in the nyy system)

  242. Trevor November 13th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    :lol: @ fans who wanted Texeira because he’s a big name. Swisher isn’t glamorous enough.

  243. Confucius November 13th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    “Once the Angels said they’ll part company with K-Rod, it gave a loud signal that they are going full bore after Teixeira.
    Scott Boras may try some east coast leverage but when the dust clears Texeira will stay with the Angels.”

    Well, apparently, the Swisher trade has defaulted Teixeira to Boston, as they can pretty much pay him whatever they want to be their 1B.

    Has anyone informed Arte Moreno of this? I imagine he’s going to be pissed.

  244. Joe from Long Island November 13th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Recently, I read a piece (either in Newsday or in the NYTimes, I can’t remember) where Theo talked about the Red Sox philosophy. He emphasized pitching, defense and a young, athletic-type roster. Based on this, I really can’t see them going after Mark Texeira with a big multiyear, multiMillion contract, to tie them down. They haven’t done that in the past (only the Yankees give 7-year deals; what has that done for us?), and I don’t think they’ll start now, especially with flat revenues.

    Rather, I think they will be players for AJ or John Garland. Adding either one to Beckett, DiceK, Lester and Wakefield as No. 5 (Bucholz sounds like he still needs work, similar to Phil Hughes) would make for one heck of a rotation. Masterson may stay in the pen there, given the problems they’ve had in the pen this past year.

  245. vinny-b -Behold the sword of Urlacher- November 13th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    “Sorry brah I didn’t know you were the Brian Giles expert. Do you speak with him much? Cool guy?”

    your mom, gives me all the information i need.

  246. NITRO November 13th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    If the Red Sox become serious players for CC and the contract demands decrease… just watch, we will jump right back in there.

    Nady is very tradeable

  247. Al from BK( Fit CC for pinstripes. C'mon Jets!) November 13th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    Cash forgets how terrible this offense was this season. The problem most of the time was the pitcher giving a quality start and the offense not showing up. Put this move in the column of Kei Igawa, Carl Pavano, Tony Womack, Latroy Hawkins.

  248. NITRO November 13th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    *** Tex not CC

  249. mbfan November 13th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Cashman signed Swisher to bluff. With Tex having a lot less leverage now, Cashman can say “I don’t need a 1B, but i can give you X amount, no more.”

    With this sort of security and insurance policy, the price of Tex, should we pursue him enough, will be significantly decrease. It’s not like Tex is THAT good of a player. He’s good, but he is in no means great. He does not deserve the contract that he is going to get.

    CC, on the other hand, I am weary of. He is a good pitcher but he has had some rough spots in the past. I’m willing to give him 5 years, 105-110, but not 6-7 and 130-140. These types of contracts are so risky and so NOT worth it. He could be dominant, or he could suddenly pitch poorly, like every other pitcher we seem to sign.

    Two lefties would be great for the Red Sox, though =)

    Let’s be weary and not holler for Cashman to make idiotic decisions. Tex and CC would be great additions… but for a good price.

  250. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Fellas i know we have and abundance of relievers. But do we have a shut down 8th inning guy? Couldnt we sign him and use some others to get us another missing piece for this team? I know Melancon is the future. But are we going to make the mistake in rushing him ala Hughes,Kennedy? Sorry fellas. Just trying to make sure we dont have any leaks on the 09 ship.

    For the ones that say we scored less runs last year. We lost Arod for almost a month. Jeter had a bum wrist. Posada and Matsui out most of the year. Cano uncharacteristically under performed. They will all be back healthy. I see now problem with our offense. As iv said before. Especially having Arod in an odd year.

  251. 4 x 4 November 13th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    Al,

    Evaluating talent is not Cashman’s strong suit and he proved it yet again today.

    He just needs to stick to the FA route and stop trying to get creative when he clearly has no creativity.

    Swisher over Teixeria? really?

  252. GreenBeret7 November 13th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Al from BK( Fit CC for pinstripes. C’mon Jets!)
    November 13th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
    “Yankees not being in on Teixeira is this year’s bubba crosby in center”

    Exactly Cash will be torched next season when Tex is in Boston driving in 100 runs and Swisher is coming off the bench.

    ___________________________________________________–

    Do you honestly think that Boston id going to have a 12 million dollar a year sitting on the bench? Lowell is more untradable than Matsui is. He has a big contract and a bad hip. Nobody is in a position to take on tha contract and Boston isn’t going to eat more than half that it would require if he was healthy.

  253. Trevor November 13th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Yankees might be moving Montero to first. you never know what’s behind certain moves. If that is the case it wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense to sign Texeira to a huge multi-year contract and if you believe in Montero being a big time ML hitter, well then there would be no position for him.
    Swisher is likely just a stop gap until Montero is ready. My guess is 2010.

  254. Frontier November 13th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    Garko or Blalock would have been much better than Swisher

  255. Al from BK( Fit CC for pinstripes. C'mon Jets!) November 13th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    This is the last guy I wanted via trade. Garko, Dejesus anyone but this guy. There goes Cash locking up a 220 hitter with a 320 OBP. Brilliant, give this guy GM of the year!

  256. Al from BK( Fit CC for pinstripes. C'mon Jets!) November 13th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    “Al,

    Evaluating talent is not Cashman’s strong suit and he proved it yet again today.

    He just needs to stick to the FA route and stop trying to get creative when he clearly has no creativity.

    Swisher over Teixeria? really?”

    Given the fact that he has already passed on Tex, if Cash fails to get CC he better be ready for rioting. No way I’m paying 30 bucks to sit in the bleachers next year and watch an 80 win team.

  257. Bat November 13th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    Here another thing to consider. I am not sure if this is legit, but we have heard the rumblings of a payroll nearer to $185 Million. If this is the case, and I do realize that the rest of the post is built on this assumption which may not the exact case, then here is the bottom line. We had a payroll of roughly $215 Million last year, with somewhere close to $88 Million coming off the books. With a $30 Million drop to get to $185 Million and about $18 Million in increases to players either already on the books ( ARod + $5 Mill next year, Cano + 3. Marte + $1.75 Mill next year, and minor raises to all the young players not arbitration eligible) combined with the Wang, Nady, and Bruney arbitartion cases, that leaves the Yankees with about $40 Million to spend. If you figure the difference between Swisher and Betemit is about $3.5 Million, that leaves roughly $36.5 Million to spend, which is just about what combination Sabathia and Burnett or Lowe will cost. If this $185 Million number is accurate (maybe Pete knows if this is a realistic guideline), then I see no other big money offensive player moves unless they move Damon or Matsui.

  258. Y's Guy November 13th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    i like it. the yankees can get in on the teixeira sweepstakes if the price looks good but otherwise stay clear of another mega-contract. true he’s not giambi at the plate but mastsui will pick up the slack.
    i’ll take a little less offense if we can get some quality SP’s.

  259. Nick in SF November 13th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    Al, you’ve been standing too close to the flame broiler. This is just the first of many shoes to drop. Don’t panic. Nick Swisher is not our new franchise player.

  260. trisha - Mike Mussina is still in my 2009 starting rotation November 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    SJ44 had it right. This forum doesn’t necessarily deal in reality, it deals in wish lists! Nobody promised anyone Texeiera. So if you got yourselves all amped up you did it to yourselves. Talk about unrealistic! Do you REALLY think Tex wants to leave the Angels??? Did anyone but the tooth fairy tell you the Yankees were getting Tex???

    And while I’m at it let me say this. I am happy we got Swisher and NO I won’t change my mind just because someone here isn’t happy we got him. Talk about lemon suckers.

    Finally – how many of you even know anything about Swisher? I do because one of my best forum buds is an A’s fan so I watched Swisher a lot. I am interested in him for his fielding. Before you say anything about wanting him in the outfield rather than at first, try taking a look at this fielding at both positions. His stats are better at first.

    No charge for this great information…

  261. GreenBeret7 November 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    S.o.S.
    November 13th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
    Fellas i know we have and abundance of relievers. But do we have a shut down 8th inning guy? Couldnt we sign him and use some others to get us another missing piece for this team? I know Melancon is the future. But are we going to make the mistake in rushing him ala Hughes,Kennedy? Sorry fellas. Just trying to make sure we dont have any leaks on the 09 ship.

    For the ones that say we scored less runs last year. We lost Arod for almost a month. Jeter had a bum wrist. Posada and Matsui out most of the year. Cano uncharacteristically under performed. They will all be back healthy. I see now problem with our offense. As iv said before. Especially having Arod in an odd year
    _______________________________________________________

    The Yanks have at least three pitchers (Marte, Coke or Bruney) that can pitch the 8th inning, mainly depending on who’s batting. Bruney can get out left handers and both Coke and Marte can get out right handers….as long as they are healthy. NYY has more important needs than adding strength to their strongest position…relief pitchers.

  262. Tom November 13th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    What happened to “I’m tired of the Yankees signing allstars to bloated long term deals.”?

  263. PAT M. November 13th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    Nick hits 35 dingers next season….

  264. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! November 13th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    What to watch..
    Ugly Betty or Jets/Pats

  265. GreenBeret7 November 13th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Tom
    November 13th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
    What happened to “I’m tired of the Yankees signing allstars to bloated long term deals.”?

    ______________________________________________________

    That’s still the case as long as it fits their arguement for getting their favorite player.

  266. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    Tom,
    Im affraid to see this blog if C.C. signs with someone else. We will have to cancel all the 09 season games and use the staduim for some out door nhl hockey games.

  267. Spyder November 13th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    Damon LF
    Jeter SS
    Matsui DH (never healthy, shell of himself)
    A-Rod 3B
    Posada C (38 yrs old, coming off shoulder surgery)
    Swisher 1B
    Cano 2B
    Nady RF
    Gardner CF

    Yuck.

    Remember when Girardi used to put in those AAA lineups against left handers with the likes of Christian, Betemit, Sexon etc and we used to hate it? Well, thats what it is going to feel like…. everyday.

  268. trisha - Mike Mussina is still in my 2009 starting rotation November 13th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    Tom – so far I’m a happy camper. I like Marte and I like Swisher. I especially like Swisher because he plays hard.

    It doesn’t pay to decide you want something and will be inconsolable if it doesn’t happen. That’s what happen with posters here who start to make “trade deals” without the Yankees permission!

    :lol:

  269. Bret the Hitman November 13th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    Here’s what I’d like to do:

    Turn Damon into Kemp through a third team. Damon + Kennedy should net us Kemp if we find the right third team. Kemp is a spare outfielder if the Dodgers bring back Manny and he’s just the type of 5 tool athlete missing on this team.

    Damon’s got more value than Nady right now and Nady’s defense in RF is preferable to Damon’s defense in LF. Damon’s also injury prone so Cashman should sell high on him before he gimps it up next season.

    Nick Swisher is good OF insurance but his glove at 1b is much better than most of us realize. When Miranda plays 1b, Swish can play LF and Kemp moves to CF. This way you have Gardner, Melky and Miranda all competing for AB’s.

    I think Jeter can be a leadoff hitter with Gardner slowly being groomed during the 2009 season. If Austin Jackson does not pan out, we pay big for Holliday or Crawford after 2009 and keep Kemp in CF.

    I think we need to get Matt Kemp.

  270. Y's Guy November 13th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    tom
    im tired of them signing allstars to bloated long term deals.

    im think we’re better off with swisher at 1B and mastui batting behind arod than we were last year.

    now lets find some pitching.

  271. GreenBeret7 November 13th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    ***unless….not “as long as”***

  272. Laura - Ready for '09 November 13th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    You know, I’ve been on this board for a while now and I’ve seen many of the same names here each day. You people watched most if not all of the Yankees 162 games this past season; just like I did. You saw this team fail in the clutch time and time again with a lineup full of extremely talented men. You saw them leave man after man on 2B with less than 2 outs. You saw pitchers throw A-Rod garbage because he had no protection behind him. If you think that we aren’t worse off offensively today than we were 6 months ago, you are deluding yourselves.

    Nick Swisher is not a sufficient replacement for Giambi or Abreu. I don’t care how good he was in OAK. We needed a big bat at 1B and this trade leads me to believe that Cash is taking a pass on Tex. We’ve got Matsui coming back from injury (I think he’ll return to his former self), we’ve got Jorge coming back from major shoulder injury (the jury’s out on what he’ll be able to contribute), Giambi’s dingers and walks are gone and so are Abreu’s contributions. Not to worry. Nick Swisher is coming in to save the day. Really.

    Fine, Cash. Let’s save money. Let’s get a great clubhouse guy, who’ll be a lot of fun to play with and to watch. That is just fine. I just hope you’re ready to miss the playoffs two years in a row because that’s exactly where we are headed.

    I look forward to reading the countless posts about how stupid Cash was to let Tex get away. We can add those to the “we should have traded for Santana” posts. This blog will most certainly not be starved for hits.

  273. GreenBeret7 November 13th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    Bret the Hitman
    November 13th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
    Here’s what I’d like to do:

    Turn Damon into Kemp through a third team. Damon + Kennedy should net us Kemp if we find the right third team. Kemp is a spare outfielder if the Dodgers bring back Manny and he’s just the type of 5 tool athlete missing on this team.

    Damon’s got more value than Nady right now and Nady’s defense in RF is preferable to Damon’s defense in LF. Damon’s also injury prone so Cashman should sell high on him before he gimps it up next season.

    Nick Swisher is good OF insurance but his glove at 1b is much better than most of us realize. When Miranda plays 1b, Swish can play LF and Kemp moves to CF. This way you have Gardner, Melky and Miranda all competing for AB’s.

    I think Jeter can be a leadoff hitter with Gardner slowly being groomed during the 2009 season. If Austin Jackson does not pan out, we pay big for Holliday or Crawford after 2009 and keep Kemp in CF.

    I think we need to get Matt Kemp.

    __________________________________________________
    Damon and Kennedy will not get Kemp, and Kemp is not worth Cano.

  274. bigjf November 13th, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    I love the move. Cashman looks brilliant already. Swisher at worst is a role player who takes pitches and can hit for power and slug at a decent clip. Cashman basically gave up a Jeff Karstens type and a Rule 5 pick, as you mentioned, Pete.

    Meanwhile, I like the 22 year old pitcher we got in return. This guy had some impressive bullpen stats in the minors last year. Maybe he could contribute sometime in the future, as the trend continues for young arms, particularly in the pen.

  275. Bret the Hitman November 13th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    I’d like to keep Cano.

    Damon + Kennedy + Sanchez

    Still not enough for Kemp through a third team?

    Damon is worth 1 season + 2 draft picks.

    1 year of Damon + Kennedy + Sanchez + 2 draft picks for Kemp.

    That’s my final offer.

  276. GreenBeret7 November 13th, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    Bret the Hitman
    November 13th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
    I’d like to keep Cano.

    Damon + Kennedy + Sanchez

    Still not enough for Kemp through a third team?

    Damon is worth 1 season + 2 draft picks.

    1 year of Damon + Kennedy + Sanchez + 2 draft picks for Kemp.

    That’s my final offer.

    __________________________________________________________

    ***How do you trade draft picks in a sport that doesn’t allow it?***

  277. Bret the Hitman November 13th, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    Damon will be a type A after 2009 so he’s worth 2 picks.

  278. trisha - Mike Mussina is still in my 2009 starting rotation November 13th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    Is the Pats-Jets on national television? I can’t find it listed.

  279. GreenBeret7 November 13th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    Whatever.

  280. bigjf November 13th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    If the Dodgers would make that move, I’d have to do it…

  281. Bret the Hitman November 13th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    Yeah, whatever.

  282. S.o.S. November 13th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    “How do you trade draft picks in a sport that doesn’t allow it?”

    Doesnt it excist in fantasy baseball?

  283. Drive 4-5 November 13th, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    I’m sorry, but I dont believe for one minute that Mark Teireira is going to let his hurt feelings as an 18 year old stand in the way of him signing with Boston if their offer is the highest.

    Boston’s payroll flexibility may be another issue, but don’t forget that they signed Julio Lugo to a $36mil contract and may be still be perfectly content with Jed Lowrie as their starting shortstop next year. It’s not without precedence for them to sit on contracts for the good of their team. They just paid the Dodgers $6mil to take Manny Ramirez and play for them.

    There’s no reason to panic. The stove is just now heating up. Let the games begin.

  284. Bret the Hitman November 13th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    bigjf,

    I don’t think the Dodgers would do it because they have no use for Damon. They might use Kennedy + Sanchez but we’d need a third team interested in giving us something the Dodgers might want in exchange for Damon.

    I don’t care how it gets done. I want to see LF upgraded defensively and offensively. Bring in Kemp and keep Cano if possible. We have plenty of chips to deal.

    Who would’ve thought other GM’s, SMART GM’s like Kenny Williams would be interested in the likes of Wilson freakin’ Betemit, Jeff Marquez and some dude acquired for Alberto Gonzalez?

    We have so many chips to cash in, there’s no excuse not to grab a player like Kemp especially since he doesn’t quite fit into the Dodgers scheme if they sign Manny.

  285. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! November 13th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    “Is the Pats-Jets on national television? I can’t find it listed.”

    —————–

    NFL Network. It’s also on locally in NY on WPIX 11

  286. trisha - Mike Mussina is still in my 2009 starting rotation November 13th, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    Thanks S.A. Looks like I won’t be watching it.

    GO JETS!!!

  287. bru November 13th, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    swisher will get about 22 million over 3 years.that is a little over 7 million a year if i heard right.

    swisher hit 24 hr’s in 497 at bats,texiera hit 33 hr’s in almost 600 at bats.

    i know tex is a lot better but i’d rather have swisher for 7 million a year than tex at over 20 million a year for very similar numbers if you factor an extra 90 at bats or so.

    i would much rather have the money spent on pitching and think a trade is needed for a pitcher.

    no way the yankees sign 3 big dollar pitchers.just keep in mind when we signed oneill,brosus,hayes,fielder.

    as long as you have enough power the keys after that are good defense,plate dicipline,pitching.

    you never know,they can trade nady,move swish to right and go from there.maybe nady,kennedy and prospects get;s us a first baseman or centerfielder.

    the bottom line is that we are a better team then we were yesterday and it gives us leverage against tex.

  288. Austin November 13th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    gotta love this deal.
    this site loves it too
    http://theblogofchampions.com/.....-to-yanks/

  289. Yankee Trader November 13th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Selig advised the owners to watch their pocketbooks, due to the recession. How many teams have more than 20 million coming off their books to sign an elite free agent?

    In AL:
    Angels
    Yankees

    In NL:
    Braves
    Cubs
    Dodgers
    Phillies

    Now others might be players.

    How many FA’s in the $20 million/year range?
    Teixeira, Ramirez, and Sabathia

    $13-$15 million/year range
    Burnett, Dempster, Dunn,Mussina, K-Rod, Sheets, Lowe

    $10-13 million/year range
    Pettitte, Garland, Bradley, Wood, Perez, Abreu

    Did I miss anyone? My point is the GM’s and owners will not be out there trying to outdo each other. Collusion?
    No! Cautious disbersement of monies in troubled times? Yes!

  290. Pig Face November 13th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    Some of you are ridiculous.

    Laura – I think its time to go play with your barbie dolls. You clearly know nothing about this game.

  291. bru November 13th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Chopper
    November 13th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
    “Boston also does not have the payroll available,”

    Pete… do a little homework first.

    Schill off the books.
    Manny, off the books.
    Timlin, off the books.
    Varitek, off the books.

    The Red Sox had lowered payroll going into the 2008 season, and they have made it EVEN lower… in the $100M-$105M dollar range.

    Mike Lowell is movable. The 3rd basemen market is weak this offseason. Philly would take him… they wanted to sign him last season.

    In the end… Money talks. Or is CC really not going to sign with the Yankees? Talk was he wants to stay on the West Coast and in the NL.

    ————————————————————

    the red sox have done a nice job with their payroll like you said but they are not going to sign tex for 6-10yrs/20-25 million a year when they have an absolute stud fb prospect.they need a catcher,bullpen help and are probably somewhat concerned with shortstop.

    they might also wan’t to add a pitcher and have to keep an eye on centerfield.

    ortiz is also aging very quickly.

  292. bru November 13th, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    i think if cash has an oportunity to package nady,kennedy and prospects to land a good first baseman or centerfielder he does it.

    if we get a fb swisher goes to right field.

    if we could just upgrade in cf.i don’t think the yankees can afford a 300 obp cf.

  293. bru November 13th, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    the 2007 yankees run production is an unfair measuring stick.the whole world knows this.

    everybody thinks that we have to equall that years production to be successful.this is not true.

    like pete said it is just as importand to prevent runs.

    it is about winning games.

    i see the yankees upgrading the pitching in a big way.the bullpen is absolutely stacked.

    we have a huge advantage over the red sox there.

  294. Bo knows November 13th, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    For the people worrying about CF.

    Do we know what Gardner will do next year, or if Melky will have a revival? No one has a clue. So why not wait and see what happens. If either comes up in the optomistic forecast, we have ignition. In order to have great pitching you need good fielding. As far as the Swisher deal, it was simply a salary dump.
    The Yankees have a cash flow advantage and should do more deals of this type. At worst they now have another trade chip.

  295. john November 13th, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    Hysterical some posts. People forgot what scott brosius was before he came to the yankees. Swisher had bad year, power from both sidesn can play of or 1b, plays all out, he walks and will never hit for average and in yankees stadium will have good power.he is high character guy and not making ton year. He’s 27 so they got young player entering his prime years. And what did they lose exactly? Swisher can also play lf if need be abreu in rf and still land tex if they want, but don’t need him. They also can choose their price on bobby as well.

  296. Reno November 13th, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    “People forgot what scott brosius was before he came to the yankees.”

    Scott Brosius had 2 good years before coming to the Yankees and one good year after. I love that a few hits at the right time make people think he was some kind of super stud.

  297. Robert B November 14th, 2008 at 11:41 am

    If Brian Cashman lets Tex go to another team, then he needs to be fired. For the last 5 years there have been players who would fill obvious needs and Cashman takes the cheap way out. He signs sheffield instead of guerrero, we need a centerfielder when bernie was washed up but he doesn’t sign beltran when he was begging to come to the yankees. He doesn’t make the move for santana instead re-signs pettitte.
    Then he signs and trades a bunch of washed up relief pitchers and broken down starters. The yankees need pitching (sabathia,burnett) a first baseman (tex), and a centerfielder (cameron). This is not rocket science and money is no option. GO GET THEM!

  298. sportsbiz3 November 14th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    Newsflash, the Yanks will be bringing in CC, Burnett, Teixiera, and possibly Cameron. They shaved $80 million off of payroll for next year, have only about $100 million committed for 2010, and will be printing money in the basement of the new stadium. Expect pyroll to reach the $250 million range.

    The Swisher move does two things. One it serves as a contingency in the case that Boras holds to his guns on Teixiera at anything more than 6 at $18. Two, it gives them the flexibility to let Abreu go, possibly move Damon or Matsui or both, and bring in Cameron via trade if the Brewers want to dump his contract once CC leaves Milwaukee.

    Anyone who thinks the Yanks wont hit the $200 million payroll mark is deluded. I’m wagering close to $250, especially with the new Legends HM enterprise, which should increase their concessions revenue from lat years $70 million fee for Centerplate to something in the neighborhood of $140-150 million. Then add in their cut of MLB Network and MLBAM profits. That’s close to another $70-80 million.

    The bottom line is that with all the revenue sharing going on and MLB’s digital and television arms, no team should be able to claim they can’t afford a payroll of less than $60 million.

  299. Pat November 14th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    This is beginning to look a lot like the 2004 off season, where the Yankees focused on pitching (Randy Johnson) and not offense (Carlos Beltran). Look how that turned out. Free agent shopping is about spending your money for the “sure thing”. I believe that Texiera is more of a sure thing than Sabathia. If they can’t or do not want to get both then they should sign Tex over CC.


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