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A look inside the new Stadium

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Nov 14, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Jason Zillo took the beat writers on a tour of the new Stadium today. It was the first time I have been there since February and obviously they’ve come a long way.

Bradd Crowley of HOK showed us around the site and pointed out some of the features.

It’s an impressive place. The scope of the building is what you notice first. There is more than twice as much room as there was at the old Stadium in terms of the concourses. The seats are a little further away from the field but they’re not as steep as the old park. The area closer to the field is wider if that makes sense.

They asked us not to take photos inside the clubhouse for some reason. It’s pretty amazing. There are 32 lockers for the players with four of them wide enough to split into two for when the rosters expand. Everybody on the staff has their own office. And I mean everybody. There is a locker room and office for the coaches. The manager, team doctor, traveling secretary, clubhouse manager and trainers all have their own offices. The trainers room is literally three times larger than what they have now and that doesn’t include a huge room where there are two pools.

Not hot tubs, pools. This is what they have, the Swim Ex. It’s a therapy pool that will have a treadmill on the bottom so you can run without putting stress on your joints.

The players also have a huge lounge and a bathroom that looks big enough for a football team.

The press box is great, too. Lots of space, stairs that go right down to the clubhouse level, etc. It’s a huge step up from what we have now. We even get our own lockers to store stuff.

The area around the dugout has two full-sized batting cages and a room with video. It’s a few steps from the field.

We didn’t get a chance to walk the concourses because of the construction. But the process of leaving your seat to go to the concession stands will be a lot easier and faster.

It’s what you would expect, a great place to see a game. Bradd was wearing a button that said Feb. 17, 2009. That’s the day they expect the building to be “substantially complete.”

There are a dozen photos posted below this, so have a look around.

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258 Responses to “A look inside the new Stadium”

  1. #9 November 14th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    The new stadium looks awfully familiar – is it just me?

  2. Tom November 14th, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    there is a similarity #9. It’s almost like an update. Or when you get a new model of the same car you drove for years.

  3. Rishi November 14th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    I cannot wait to go see a game there!

  4. Time to "Go John Galt" November 14th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    While they didn’t let the press take any pictures, I bet they are showing CC some pictures of his new digs right now. ;)

  5. Drive 4-5 November 14th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    Pete,

    Thank you very much for the pics. The place looks great. I’m really looking forward to having more room to move around in.

    A couple of questions:

    Does it look as though the frieze hanging down with effect the view in the upper deck?

    Could you tell if you will be able to view the field from the concessions?

    Great job. Thanks again.

  6. Y26 November 14th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    The big question is, where there be candy in the clubhouse?

  7. pat November 14th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    Thanks Pete. Great pictures. I saw pictures of the clubhouse somewhere and it looked pretty swanky and really big.

  8. Red Dragons November 14th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    This stadium is going to be majestic. I think the Cisco screens throughout the stadium is awesome.

  9. CharlesSDutton November 14th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    What’s the over/under on Swisher being the first Yankee player to pee in one of those pools?

  10. Doreen November 14th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    That’s disgusting and just not necessary.

  11. saucY November 14th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    thanks for the updates Pete. Great stuff.

  12. Mark in Tampa November 14th, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    Why such a large trainer’s room? I thought they declined Pavano’s option.

  13. RhapsodyInBlue November 14th, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    Beautiful.

  14. Hit my head ??? November 14th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    Yankees Going With Three-Pronged Pitcher Attack
    14th November, 2008 – 1:56 pm
    SI.com – The Yankees will make an offer to exceed Johan Santana’s $137.5-million contract on Friday to target CC Sabathia and closely follow that offer with proposals within the next day or two to two more star free-agent pitchers, A.J. Burnett and Derek Lowe, SI.com has learned.

    The Yankees don’t expect immediate acceptances from all three pitchers, but one competing executive said, “I wouldn’t be shocked to see the Yankees sign all three guys.”

  15. Patrick November 14th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    “What’s the over/under on Swisher being the first Yankee player to pee in one of those pools?”

    over/under on what? On the number of times he pees in the pool? On the number of days it takes him to pee in the pool for the first time? This makes no sense.

    Also what leads you to believe Swisher loves to pee in pools?

  16. RhapsodyInBlue November 14th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    Policed report said he was Kareemed.

    Report: Giants’ Kareem McKenzie arrested for DUI

    http://www.fannation.com/si_bl.....osts/23461

  17. sweet lou November 14th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    I’m disappointed there was not an indoor pool for the players to enjoy during rain delays.

  18. Michael November 14th, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    Will Costanza still have his cubby-hole installed under his desk?

  19. Patrick November 14th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Interesting..

    I don’t think the Yankees will sign all 3 of Burnett, Sabathia and Lowe. I think 2 of 3 is somewhat likely. Locking up 3 guys to long contracts is not a good idea. I’d prefer to sign Sabathia to a long deal (only because he’ll demand one) and another guy to a shorter deal. I think Lowe would be more open to signing a 3 year deal. That way it leaves the door open for prospects to come up to the majors but it also gives us some insurance.

  20. Ramon November 14th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    I’d rather sign 2 FAs and Pettitte for one year rather than 3 of the big FA pitchers.

  21. pat November 14th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    “I’m disappointed there was not an indoor pool for the players to enjoy during rain delays.”

    Big screen TVs, video games, full kitchen and Internet access and I-Pod docking staions at ever locker should help pass the time.

  22. EY November 14th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    I don’t see how Sabathia can turn out starting the opening game at such a state of the art facility…the same goes for any other free agent – absolutely mind-boggling. This will be “The Best Ball Park” for many years to come. I can’t wait to see a game at the place.

  23. saucY November 14th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    i posted this in some of the other threads, but if you haven’t seen the 3-d seat selecter thingy on yankees.com, check it out.

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....lector.jsp

    if you look at the scoreboard, giambi and abreu are re-signed with some guy ‘smith’ as the DH.

  24. Munson November 14th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    Pete–will there still be an empty locker for me?

  25. Ninja Burglar November 14th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    I love peeing in pools, and I would definitely pee in that one.

  26. RhapsodyInBlue November 14th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    Thanks saucY

    That is awesome.

  27. Laura - Ready for '09 November 14th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    I’m definitely going to a game there. I don’t care if I have to take a second mortgage out on my house. Actually, it would be a third, but who’s counting? :P

  28. jennifer November 14th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    According to 1050 the Yankees tendered an offer to CC. Details upcoming.

  29. jennifer November 14th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Buster things 6 years 140-142.

  30. Bronx Jeers November 14th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    I believe “The Offer” was just officially made.

  31. ariel November 14th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    After commenting on the proposed offers to CC AJ and Lowe, Jon Heyman reported:

    “The Yankees remain interested in Manny Ramirez but are concentrating on the pitchers now with the expectation that Ramirez won’t sign quickly with anyone, certainly not the Dodgers, who bid $45 million over two years, far below Ramirez’s request for a five- or six-year deal. Meanwhile the Yankees chances to sign star free-agent first baseman Mark Texieira are greatly diminished now that they have acquired first baseman Nick Swisher.”

  32. FormerBOX607 November 14th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    What is inexcusable is that there are obstructed view seats. In today’s day and age, a new stadium should have no obstructed seats. That monstrosity resturaunt for the fat cats in center field will make left and right field invisible to regular fans sitting in the right field and left field bleachers respectively. That’s inexcusable. Just move the resturaunt back, the dopes that eat in their aren’t there to see the game anyway.

  33. harwood November 14th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    “Will Costanza still have his cubby-hole installed under his desk?”

    In this stadium it will have 2 cup holders, and a heated floor!

  34. AROD fan November 14th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    How funny would it be if the new stadium wasn’t ready in april and the Yankees had to do yet another “last game at Yankee Stadium” ceremony?

  35. Vader November 14th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Seems like a convenient time to have the beat writers take a walk through the new Stadium with all of its amazing amenities, that a few FAs might want to know about before signing elsewhere.

  36. S.o.S. November 14th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    “Everybody on the staff has their own office. And I mean everybody.”

    Hmmm. I wonder if we offer the 6 yr. 142mil + his own office if that would be an offer that he cant refuse?

    Patrick,
    What if they are planning on signing all 3 and not signing either Moose or Pettitte? Thats the only thing i can think of for all 3 being offered a contract. Unless of coarse they dont expect all to sign. Im thinking they should have gone after Sheets instead of Lowe.

  37. Noey November 14th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    The NY Post states its $137 million for the first proposal – Breaking news as they say

  38. Ninja Burglar November 14th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    I agree that it’s an odd decision to have all those bleacher seats obstructed by the restaurant. You’d think they would’ve figured out a way to prevent that.

  39. astounded November 14th, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    6 years 164mil….WOW !

  40. S.o.S. November 14th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    FormerBOX607
    Maybe they purposely had the restaurant come out like that so it would prevent “The Wave” from getting started.

  41. john November 14th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    In the right field and left field bleachers…you cannot see the opposite field if you are sitting near that restaurant. That’s terrible. You can only see half the game. Total rip off. The bleachers were my favorite seats because you could see everything so well. This is horrible

  42. Noey November 14th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    Wheres 164 coming from

  43. astounded November 14th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    164…Post ( how surprising ? ) is WAY OFF !

  44. Al from BK( Fit CC for pinstripes. Jets alone in first!) November 14th, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    Have to go higher with the first proposal 140 would let everyone know we mean business!

  45. Bronx Jeers November 14th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    It looks like the same contract Johan got. Might as well top that IMO.

  46. SJ44 November 14th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    I believe the plan is to sign CC and one of AJ and Lowe.

    At that point, the next spot is between Moose and Andy. Depending of course if Moose changes his mind about retirement.

    Its good business to have all 3 offers out there and, in the cases of Lowe and Burnett, and sign whichever guy takes accepts the offer the fastest.

    Or, if CC turns them down, they have the next two guys in the pecking order already on the hook.

    Sheets? His injury is too serious to make a real offer for his services. A torn tendon near the elbow is similar to what Pettitte had 5 years ago.

    You can pitch with it without surgery but, its kind of like a ticking time bomb. Don’t see the Yankees taking that risk Post-Pavano.

  47. Patrick November 14th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    SoS,

    I’d prefer Moose and Pettitte over Burnett, Lowe or Sheets. Mostly because Moose and Pettitte would take short term deals and the other 3 guys would require 3 or more years. I like having them on short term deals because it allows our prospects to take over in the future but doesn’t force the Yankees to rely upon them.

  48. Don November 14th, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    Most of the sites have comparable numbers

    Kay – 6/$140
    Olney – 6/$142
    Post – $137
    Heyman – “exceeds Santana money ($137 mil)”

  49. S.o.S. November 14th, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    “therapy pool”

    The first thing that came to mind is Respuesha getting in the tub and the water flowing out.

  50. harwood November 14th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    137 sounds right. Why would Cashman bid against himself?

  51. Josh November 14th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    Don’t know if this news has been broken yet, but according to ESPN, the Yanks have officially made an offer to CC.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3703112

  52. raymagnetic November 14th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    6 years 142 isn’t getting it done. It’s going to take at least 25 mil a year to get done, at least.

  53. SJ44 November 14th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    The initial offer won’t be the final offer. Its only a starting point. So, discussing whatever the initial offer may be is a waste of time.

    Whatever it is, it will be well north of that figure by next week.

  54. Mike R November 14th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    The screen is still practically invisible to people sitting in the RF upper-deck. I thought for sure they would fix that…

    I hate not being able to see the replays, not to mention the subway race!

  55. pat November 14th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    How funny is it that a contract offer is breaking news- Daily News says 6/140.

  56. vinny-b -Behold the sword of Urlacher- November 14th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    “I’d prefer Moose and Pettitte over Burnett, Lowe or Sheets. Mostly because Moose and Pettitte would take short term deals and the other 3 guys would require 3 or more years. I like having them on short term deals because it allows our prospects to take over in the future but doesn’t force the Yankees to rely upon them”

    100%

  57. Claudio November 14th, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    We offered C.C. 137 million
    http://blog.yoonew.com/2008/11.....athia.html

  58. Al from BK( Fit CC for pinstripes. Jets alone in first!) November 14th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Very true the initial offer is just to kick the door open, it will be a lot higher once the Dodgers and Angels get involved.

  59. Ed - sign CC immediately November 14th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    SJ,

    trading Nick Johnson for bench? He could be the new DH in 2010 if Matsui decided to call it quits.

  60. Josh November 14th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Hm ok I think I was a little late on the “breaking news.” Sorry.

    Thoughts on the new stadium – while I love the team and believe they deserve the best treatment an athlete can receive, this sounds a little excessive. Especially in the midst of such a bad time in the economy. What are the ticket prices going to be like (in comparison to what they were in 08)?

  61. JMZ November 14th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    If the stands are both further away and less steep, doesn’t that mean that the upper deck seats are MUCH further away from the field. One of the things I liked about the old stadium’s steepness was that even in the cheap seats, you felt like you were really on top of things.

  62. S.o.S. November 14th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    SJ,
    Wasnt aware of his injury. But isnt AJ a ticking time bomb himself? The guy Pavanoes every year. Would it just be wiser to sign a Perez or Garland for cheap. Yes not Ace like stuff. But you know they are going to throw some innings. With Joba on an innings limit and Hughes trying to build his confidence. The last thing we need is another year of playing dl musical chairs with our pitchers. Yes they are unpredictable. But some have the vip card to enter.

    Patrick,
    I assume Moose can get a multi year deal with Phili or Baltimore. If he takes a one year deal. Im all for it. But iv said this before. Which Moose is going to show up? The 07 or 08 version?

  63. Patrick November 14th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    I think SJ has the right idea about our plan for the pitching staff. I’m not sure I’d want Lowe or Burnett but it sounds like that’s the Yankees plan.

    I lean towards preferring short term deals for Pettitte/Mussina rather than long term deals for Burnett/Lowe. Short term deals allow our prospects to step in when they are ready whereas long deals doesn’t allow much room for guys like Hughes. Additionally, long term deals are always pretty risky for pitchers.

    On the other hand, this year’s free agent class is rich in starting pitching whereas in the future that might not be the case. Perhaps Cashman feels like now is the time to load up on quality pitchers. Sabathia, Burnett/Lowe, Wang is a core of guys that will give 200 innings each for several years (pending injuries).

    I’m a Sheets fan but even I have to say no to signing him. He has amazing stuff but he’s just too injury prone.

  64. Sea Net November 14th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    harwood,

    That’s a good question. He probably wanted to set the market high enough so that there wouldn’t be a bidding war and he can get all the BS out of the way. He can know right now if CC wants to come here or not. It gives us time to formulate contingency plans.

    If it had been a standard bidding war, it would have dragged out for weeks and the serious players would only emerge after a month and after a ton of posturing. By that time, the other options (AJ, Lowe) might be long gone.

    Cashman probably wanted to set the market so high and test other GMs to see who is ready to step into the ring. Otherwise, you would have your usual BS of Boston trying to get involved to drive up the price and Omar trying manipulate the Mets fans into thinking that he tried to get him. Then the West Coast teams will get involved and it is just a waste of time.

    He wanted to send a message to CC and the league by STARTING the bidding at Santana money. This offer would probably be most team’s final offer, whereas this is just our starting offer.

  65. Patrick November 14th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    SoS, Moose could get a multi-year deal with us! If he doesn’t retire I think the Yankees would definitely sign him.

  66. S.o.S. November 14th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    “6 years 142 isn’t getting it done. It’s going to take at least 25 mil a year to get done, at least.”

    This is already higher than Santana’s deal. What happened to all that “the economy is bad”talk? The people are being laid of off work in baseball? Am i missing something?

  67. harwood November 14th, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    SeaNet,

    That was rhetorical. 137mil is what Santana got and it was assumed CC would get that much at least. But bidding over 137 on a first offer is just bidding against yourself I think.

  68. vinny-b -Behold the sword of Urlacher- November 14th, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    if it is between Pettite and Moose. I hope Moose retires. My memory lasts beyond 1 season, and in recent years Pettite have been the better pitcher. In particularly, when on a big stage.

    Andy is Andy

  69. SJ44 November 14th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    Burnett hasn’t been hurt as much as Sheets and, as far as I know, doesn’t have anything torn in his body right now. Unlike Sheets.

    If you look at AJ’s starts the last 4 years, I believe he has started more games than Wang and Sheets. He isn’t as injury prone as he used to be.

    When you evaluate pitchers, there are risks involved with all of them.

    That being the case, stuff is the deciding factor to me.

    AJ is just plain nasty. On stuff alone, he may be the best of the FA pitchers.

    Guys on the Yankees have told me that the only guy whose stuff was nastier than AJ’s was Carmona in 2007.

    The hidden factor in all this is the Yankee bullpen. Its so good, and has the greatest closer in history at the back end, its going to take a lot of pressure off the starters.

    For guys like AJ and CC, that has to be a plus. More wins, less innings. I don’t know a pitcher who doesn’t like that.

  70. raymagnetic November 14th, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    S.o.S.

    The Yankees are desperate for a pitcher of CC’s caliber and they’re willing to do whatever to sign him.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see them take a serious run at Manny either to be honest.

  71. Patrick November 14th, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    “I wouldn’t be surprised to see them take a serious run at Manny either to be honest.”

    Now that it looks like they aren’t going after Teixeira, I agree. Manny is a possibility.

    I could see the Yanks trading one of Matsui, Nady, Damon and signing Manny or trading for Giles or something. I wonder if Manny would be open to being a full-time DH? I want no part of Manny in LF.

  72. Drive 4-5 November 14th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    saucY,

    Thanks for the linking the seat selector. For anyone who hasn’t seen it, you should check it out. You can’t see the view of the field from the seats, but as you move the cursor you see what the prices are. I recommend you hold on to the seat at your computer lol.

  73. Go Getter November 14th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    Burnetts stuff is filthy and he is a proven AL East pitcher. He misses bats.

    If you are going to give free agent pitchers deals you really can’t be worried about injuries. If you are sensitive to that you need to avoid the market and concentrate on the Randy Wolfs of the world.

    I’d rather they take a shot with Burnett than older guys like Lowe or not as good NL pitchers like Perez.

  74. yankeefan91 (sign manny) November 14th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    i agree patrick i think we should trade matsui or even both matsui and nady i think johnny is a great leadoof hitter and u bat manny behind arod this teams gonna score runs and he is clutch

  75. harwood November 14th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Manny as a Teixeira bat replacement is painful to think about.

  76. Denny November 14th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    “Short term deals allow our prospects to step in when they are ready whereas long deals doesn’t allow much room for guys like Hughes.”

    That’s a big assumption right there. Assuming the young kids are actually you know….GOOD.

  77. RhapsodyInBlue November 14th, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    If they don’t want to spend 20 mil. per on Tex, why would they want to spend the same on Manny?

    One of either Manny or Girardi wouldn’t make it out of spring training alive.

  78. Patrick November 14th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Haha I didn’t say the Yankees SHOULD do that. I’m just saying I think its a possibility. I’m not sure Manny would fit on this team. He’s a great hitter but I’m not sure I want a guy like him in the clubhouse.

  79. SJ44 November 14th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    I don’t see them making a move on Manny. I think a team is going to give Manny 4 years and I don’t think the Yankees want any part of that.

    My hope is that they get both CC and AJ done by Thanksgiving.

    At that point, re-trench, and see what’s out there if they feel they need another bat.

    There are going to be quite a few guys on the trade market this off-season. If they get AJ and CC done, perhaps they can package 1 or 2 of their younger arms and pick up a quality offensive player. You never know.

    Until the pitching situation is settled though, I don’t see them pursuing any offensive players right now.

  80. Patrick November 14th, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    “why would they want to spend the same on Manny?”

    Less years for Manny. Tex would require (and probably get) 7-10 years. I bet Manny could be signed for 3 years if the AAV is high enough.

  81. bottom line November 14th, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    I’m with SJ on Burnett. If he can be had for $64m/4 years it’s a must. And I would try to sign him up fast as well– the best insurance we can get on missing out on CC. As for Lowe, I’d pass. Lots of mileage and a long ways from the AL. I like Andy much better than Lowe. Moose, too, but just for one year. If we get CC and/or AJ we have immeasurably improved this team.

    Would love to hear some opinions on Oliver Perez. Not being in NYC, don’t see him much. Looks like this is aguy who just cen’t get together and never will — or is about to break-out big time.

    Dunn, anyone, for RF?

  82. yankeefan91 (sign manny) November 14th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    theres a report that the braves are movin on and that the yankees are still on the radar that would be great to sign cc and aquiere peavyyyyyyy and sign burneet

  83. Patrick November 14th, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    “That’s a big assumption right there. Assuming the young kids are actually you know….GOOD.”

    Well first of all, the Yankees have to trust their scouting reports on their own prospects. Whats the point of having a farm system if you don’t actually use the players that perform well in the minors?

    It might be a big assumption to assume that Hughes can step in for 2010 but its not a risky assumption. By signing guys like Pettitte/Moose to shorter deals it doesn’t force the Yanks to rely on Hughes/Kennedy. At the same time if offers a ton of flexibility; something Cashman loves.

  84. Patrick November 14th, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    “theres a report that the braves are movin on and that the yankees are still on the radar that would be great to sign cc and aquiere peavyyyyyyy and sign burneet”

    #1 – Buy a dictionary

    #2 – Put down the controller

  85. S.o.S. November 14th, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    “I wouldn’t be surprised to see them take a serious run at Manny either to be honest.”

    ray,
    I wanted them to go after Manny earlier in the month. But he is asking for a 4 to 6 year term in the 20+ per year mark. If we are able to do that for him. Why not get someone that would help with his glove as well? There are alot of big contracts falling off in the next 3 years. Makes no sense. Im all for the Swisher trade and no Tex. But if they end up signing Manny instead that will be a head scratcher. Unless they know something about Tex signing elswhere already.

  86. saucY November 14th, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    no problem, drive-4-5. still finding new things on there. just realized you can back change which part of the section you are in using the front/rear buttons on the top left…

  87. harwood November 14th, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    “Less years for Manny. ”

    Tex is going to be 29. And hes a GG position player. Manny takes cell phone calls in the green monster.

    Dont get me wrong I like Manny in the lineup but not at the cost of Tex money.

  88. SJ44 November 14th, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    I think the only one of the “young guns” that will be in the rotation to start the year is Joba as the 5th starter.

    I think Hughes, Aceves (if he doesn’t become the long guy) and Kennedy (if he’s not traded) begin the year in AAA.

    The guy to keep an eye on is Zach McAllister. There are a lot of people in baseball who now believe he may end up being the best of all of these guys not named Joba. He is really highly thought of around the game at this time.

    So much so, it wouldn’t shock me if the Yankees now have him on their untouchable list.

    If/when there are injuries, I could see the AAA guys filling in for starts.

    At least right now, the Yankees goal seems to be a rotation of Wang, CC, Burnett, one of Pettitte, Lowe or Moose (if he doesn’t retire) and Joba.

    Everybody would have to turn down the Yankees money for that plan to change.

    Oliver Perez? Way too inconsistent for my tastes. He could go weeks and be dominant and weeks and not find the strike zone.

    Boras will find somebody to pay him a lot of money though.

    By mid-season, folks will call him a FA bust. I think he is very overrated.

  89. ariel November 14th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    Jon Heyman reports that the Yankees have an interest in Manny and will make their run after their pitching needs are satisfied. He is not going any place so quickly and he will cost far less than Tex would. As to the clubhouse issues, I’m sure they have paid attention to the comments of Torre, Mattingly and Bowa, have spoken with Damon as well as his buddy, A-Rod, and possibly the current leaders, Jeter, Posada and Mo. Keep in mind that NY is not Boston. He wanted to come here in 01 but the Yankees went in a different direction and went where he was unhappy from the getgo.

    http://www.fannation.com/si_bl.....osts/23422

  90. ariel November 14th, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Manny at three, max four, years will be within the Yankee parameters..

  91. Wave Your Hat November 14th, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Burnett’s stuff may be filthy but it hasn’t translated into really great results. His ERA+ hasn’t been over 119 since 2002. It was only 105 in 2008. He’s missed a ton of starts. Last year he was healthy, but he missed about 20 starts between 2006 and 2007. He was healthy in 2005, but don’t ask about 2004 0r 2004.

    I’d rather spend money elsewhere. You’ve got to be more of a gambler than I am to ignore the history.

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  93. ariel November 14th, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    By doing the Swisher deal, there a good likelihood they sent the Angels a dual message, who have said that if they sign Tex, they cannot also do CC. So, we are not taking Tex, he is yours, but we are taking CC. The number 1 competitor will then pass on CC. Possible.

  94. Ramon November 14th, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    Yet another source confirming the 6/$140 figure

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....140mi.html

  95. Jonathan November 14th, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    Remember… Sabathia had a 3.83 ERA with CLE this year, the NL turned him from a good pitcher into an immortal one. Wang could put up those numbers in the NL too.

    He’ll be hard pressed to put up better numbers than Wang yet he is getting paid 6x as much and touted as an “ace”. He has also flopped in the playoffs like Wang.

  96. ariel November 14th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    Boras will play the Angels against the hometown Orioles (he started the Baltimore push yesterday shortly after the Swisher deal was announced, perhaps also using Boston though Tex will not go there). Since the Yankees are probably out of the picture, Tex will go more quickly than initially thought. He will look only to the Bronx for Manny.

  97. Doreen November 14th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    If no one else offers Manny the years he’s looking for, I suppose, conceivably, the Yankees could go after him.

    If it happens, it will be very difficult for me to root for the guy. I will root for him to succeed, of course, because I want the Yankees to win. But it’s philosophical difference for me. It busts me no end how he got out of Boston. I don’t care if he was unhappy for years. He signed a contract and was making pretty good money. He was pretty much allowed to do whatever he wanted to do. Cry me a river, you know?

    I don’t want to hear how “wonderful” he was in LA. Different circumstances altogether – kind of like a Boston-paid vacation for Manny.

    If the Yankees are going to spend that kind of money on an offensive player, I would want them to spend the money on Tex.

    I also don’t know how Manny will handle the media here. I don’t think there will be the same bemusement (“Manny being Manny”) here.

  98. MR YANKEES GET C.C AND TEXIERRA THATS ALL WE NEED WHY MARQUEZ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO November 14th, 2008 at 6:09 pm

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  99. S.o.S. November 14th, 2008 at 6:09 pm

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    I believe that the Angels would go after C.C. if they lost out on Tex. Why would they bid against themselves like they did with Giambi? If we have to over pay 40% more than anyone to get him to come. Then maybe he should go sign with another team. As Jeter has said before. We dont have to sell the Yankees to anyone. Tradition,chance to compete year in and year out,new fascility, best fans,hell even best uni’s.

  100. bottom line November 14th, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    Wave— I’d go by whether or not a guy is healthy now. Loads of players have had bad injury histories and then turned around and gone injury-free from mid-career on. Paul Molitor is one. Fisk is another. Conversely, many players who’ve been iron men for years break down. Matsui, for example. Even Gehrig(though I realize his was not a baseball injury). I say if Burnett is healthy now — and I’m sure they’ll do extensive tests before finalizing any deal — you go get him.

  101. ariel November 14th, 2008 at 6:11 pm

    As Joe Torre said last Friday evening regarding Manny, “Boston is not New York” from the standpoint of doing your own thing.

  102. ariel November 14th, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    Sos,

    You are correct, but with the biggest competitor presumably on the sidelines, the likelihood of the Angels signing Tex is improved considerably. Assuming Tex does not move quickly, I question whether Moreno would make an offer for CC (assuming he is pressed to do so by CC) when Tex is still out there….I would assume what we have read and Pete has stated takes Boston out of the equation. I would think, under those circumstances, they would let CC pass and focus solely on Tex.

  103. ariel November 14th, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Kudos to Cashman for being clever for a change.

  104. S.A.-Looking forward to 2009 and show CC the money (and food)! November 14th, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Hughes today:
    5IP 2H 0R 0ER 1BB 6SO 0HR 3.60ERA

  105. Patrick November 14th, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Jonathon did you completely forget about Sabathia winning the CY Young for Cleveland in 2007? CC can dominate both leagues and he’s proved it.

    “The guy to keep an eye on is Zach McAllister. There are a lot of people in baseball who now believe he may end up being the best of all of these guys not named Joba. He is really highly thought of around the game at this time.”

    Lets start up the Yankee Prospect Hype Machine! Zach McAllister profiles as a solid #3 starter, MAYBE a #2 starter. He doesn’t have “ace” stuff. I see him as a guy that could move really quickly because of his great control, he really hammers the strikezone and doesn’t walk anyone.

    Hughes, Bettances, Heredia, Garcia, Brackman, Sanchez all have higher ceilings. Obviously McAllister is further along than all of those minus Hughes. I’m not knocking McAllister, he is a “better” prospect than most of the guys I listed but his pure ceiling isn’t as high.

  106. ariel November 14th, 2008 at 6:24 pm

    I would add that I question whether the Angels are, or ever were, that serious about CC at those numbers and for that term. Moreno is very measured in his approach and to roll the dice at those numbers for an overweight and excessively used pitcher may well be too much of a gamble for him.

  107. Trevor November 14th, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    Pete, not sure why the Yankees didn’t want media taking pictures of the clubhouse but you can search for pictures online. They’re everywhere. Most who are following the stadium progress know how the clubhouse looks.

  108. ariel November 14th, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    I question whether any other team would even now bid for CC with a 140 for 6 on the table. The Dodgers certainly won’t as McCourt is as penurious as they come and doesn’t have the money anyone….in addition, he’s been burned over the last two years. Not the Angels for the reasons set forth previously. The Giants?..no way as pitching is the last of their problems. IMO, it’s whether CC wants to “follow the money” or stay in Milwaukee where he is comfortable…likes the team, thecity, his teammates and can step up to the plate. If anyone doesn’t simply go for the bucks, it’s CC. we’ll see.. it should be interesting.

  109. jason November 14th, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    Patrick – The only name on your list I would argue with is Heredia and maybe Sanchez (if he remains a reliever). But, Macallister is a big guy and can pitch innings and so far no injury issues. So while he might not have the ceiling of Garcia or Brackman he doesn’t have quite the risk. Also, think about banuelos as a high ceiling elite prospect as some of the draft picks this year – Mitchell and Marshall.
    The Yanks are absolutely stocked with pitching – not all will make it but some will. Some will be traded for useful pieces.

  110. SJ44 November 14th, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    Not true re: McAllister. A lot of scouts I know like him better than anybody except Betances in the system right now.

    That’s not a knock to the other guys. Its more about how highly they think of McAllister.

    They love the way he goes about his business and his stuff is plenty good enough to continue his growth through the system.

    Guys like Brackman, Garcia (especially Garcia) and Heredia have to show they can stay healthy.

    Pure stuff? They may have a bit more than McAllister. As pitchers? None of those guys, at least not yet, are close to McAllister in the minds of a lot of scouts.

    He has really moved up the ladder in terms of his likability by Yankee scouts and other scouts around baseball.

    If he continues at this pace, he will probably end next season in AAA. Pretty impressive for such a young guy.

    As far as what he projects to (#2, #3, etc), I don’t think anybody can or should place a number on it.

    Its about how he projects to the next level. Right now, he’s ahead of the pace over a lot of guys in the system. Some, more hyped than him.

  111. Fran November 14th, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    I think the Yanks made a great move by putting their offer to CC out early. Now other teams will have to think twice about getting involved knowing how much it will cost.

    Pete – thanks for all of the pictures. Cana’t wait for April.

  112. AROD fan November 14th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    Reality or fantasy, I’m really hoping the Yankees still go for Tex. Swisher/Matsui/Posada 1B just doesn’t sound like a championship team.

    I also wouldn’t be surprised if owners were found to be conspiring more than usual to keep the prices of players down this year, and if that is what is really at the bottom of this dumb Swisher deal. Boras probably won’t sign Tex before the Yankees get involved, and the idea that the Yankees already have a 1B (even if he can’t hit and isn’t a 1B) might keep the price down for awhile.

  113. Glenn November 14th, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    This will be the year to pull the trigger on top of the line free agent pitching.
    2010 doesn’t offer all that much . . .

    http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.c.....gents.html

  114. bru November 14th, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    signing manny to anything over 2 years would be a devastating mistake.

    i don’t even like the idea of cc for 6 yrs and if he asked for 7 i would refuse.

    when are we going to learn that these huge contracts do not work?

    we do need pitching so i am not against it totally but all the other contracts arod,jeter,posada are for too much and too long.

    the yankees should be fair,maybe a little higher than other teams but blowing other offers out of the water is insane.

    they never get a pitcher at the right age.i know sabathia isn’t that old but even 2 yrs younger would make a mammoth difference.

    i also believe the yankees will take lowe,burnett,mussina over pettitte.if we sign sabathia,burnett,mussina pettitte is out.

  115. Yankee Trader November 14th, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    If the Angels don’t land Teixeira, it’ll be to the team that offers the most money close to home-Orioles? Nationals?
    Boston doesn’t really need him.

    Angels need hitting, not another starter with Lackey, Saunders, Weaver and Santana.

    Manny will stay in LA- he’s a celebrity there. Dodgers keep him and can trade Pierre, Kemp or Ethier for other parts. Andruw Jones they’re stuck with. Don’t see Manny’s interest in the Yankees,as he’d be the #3 macho man behind Jeter and A-Rod. Manny could be a fallback option for Angels but would need to DH, or learn how to play 1st.

    Big Yes and hope for Sabathia coming to the Yankees.
    Yes to Burnett, worth the risk and close to his wife’s home in Baltimore. Not keen on Lowe, would rather have lefty Randy Wolf, if it comes down to Lowe as option #3.

    Adam Dunn can’t field. In Yankee stadium, even if he didn’t always try for a homerun, he’d hit 40 a year. We’d have to move Matsui, which is about as likely as the Sox being able to move Lowell to make room for Teixeira.

    Would be most happy with a starting rotation of:
    Sabathia
    Burnett
    Wang
    Joba
    Mussina/Pettitte

    Would like the Yankees to try and pry outfielder Carlos Gonzalez, from his new team the Rockies.

    If we sign Sabathia 25M?, Burnett 16M? Pettitte 11M? those three plus the players due for raises and arbitration will put the payroll at around the target of 185 million.

    Then trade some of our minor league pitching surplus for young athletic position players.

  116. jake November 14th, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Carolos Gonzales would be an interesting acquisition. But what is he worth? the jury is out on whether or not he will be a good major leaguer. He’s only slightly more of a sure thing than Brett Gardner.
    Ian Kennedy for Carlos Gonzales? OK. More than that? Nyet.

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