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Tyler Kepner of the Times wrote a good blog entry about Darrell Rasner for Bats. Rasner was a player everybody on the beat rooted for because he was unfailingly professional with us. Here’s wishing him good luck in Japan.
Gawker mentioned my blog today and it wasn’t to expose me as some sort of mainstream media idiot. That’s a good thing.
The Waikiki Beach Boys are in the Hawaii Winter League title game today. Damon Sublett is their DH. Here’s how Jeremy Bleich finished in Hawaii: six starts, 30.2 innings, 24 hits, 7 ER, 8 BB, 31 K,1 HR. Pretty solid. It’ll be interesting to see how far he advances next season.
It’s easy to follow the guys in various winter leagues, by the way.
One of our readers in Virginia, Rick, sent along this link to the web site of 2,175 for ALS. Ben Davis is hiking the Appalachian Trail (2,175 miles) to raise money for ALS research.
In case you missed it, Fire Joe Morgan called it quits. The Hat Guy must be relieved.
Kevin Long will be in the Dominican Republic this week working with Robinson Cano to polish up the changes they made to his batting stance at the end of last season. Brian Cashman will listen to any offer that comes along. But the Yankees didn’t send their batting coach from Arizona to the Dominican to tutor a player they want to trade.
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But their mission isn’t complete. We still have to listen to Joe Morgan call games.
Gawker is the mainstream media; they would only make fun of you if you were a right-wing hack(justifiably so)
That’s right, Kevin, make that list and check it twice.
-Cano
-Melky
-Gardner
-Alex
-Swish
-Betemit-
im with jennifer. joe morgan is TERRIBLE. i wish i knew about that site, i would have volunteered and donated to the cause, the guy is HORRIBLE to listen to during yankees games, his hatred for our favorite franchise is MORE than obvious, and absolutley irrirating beyond belief to listen to.
oh… and LOL @ Mel…
Can we compromise and just pay CC Peavy money?
Hi, there, Pete, hope you’ve had a good day.
I am very happy for Darrell Rasner, but I will miss him. As you and Tyler Kepner have noted, he seems to be a very professional, and nice, guy. It’s too bad more people, in and out of sports, are like him. I wish him well.
I meant “It’s too bad more people, in and out of sports, aren’t like him.”
erik
November 16th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
im with jennifer. joe morgan is TERRIBLE. i wish i knew about that site, i would have volunteered and donated to the cause, the guy is HORRIBLE to listen to during yankees games, his hatred for our favorite franchise is MORE than obvious, and absolutley irrirating beyond belief to listen to.
oh… and LOL @ Mel…
not to mention, unprofessional
PAT M, if you’re out there, I hope you followed my lead on the Titans -3. I told you, streaks are great!
The Rams +20 teaser was almost a huge blunder, I had to sweat out a backdoor cover at the very end. What an awful team. They got smoked by the Niners!
Whats with this union pressuring CC to take the deal talk? Does someone really need pressure to take a 140 million dollar contract? If he needs to be pressured, id rather he not take it. The worst thing is to have someone here who never wanted to be in this situation in the first place. But really he isnt going to get a better offer than the yankees will give so if he wants to be put on the big stage – he should accept the offer within a couple of days and not take weeks to make the decision. It send a bad message to everyone involved and doesnt really make a whole lot of sense.
I really hope the sox sign lowe – the guy shouldnt even be on the yankees radar. I know burnett is a risk but lowe is just a flat out waste of money. I thought we were trying to get younger and avoid NL success pitchers.
I hope cash is still in the running for teixera – swisher can player center (a position which is not filled yet by the way.) Maybe Tex will take a six yr deal or so in which case he would be an ideal fit for the direction the yanks want to go. With 80 million off the books and only taking on marte and swishers contracts so far, we do have enough money to sign CC, Burnett and Tex and still have some payroll flexibility. Not to mention, we would be done for the off season with those three in place and andy signed to a small one yr contract which is really all he deserves after last yr and prolly becoming our fourth or fifth starter.
Fire Joe Morgan sad to see it go. One of the Office writers Mike Schur was one of the writers.
I’m tired of this Jake Peavy rumor stuff…the Yankees should NOT get involved in this unless the Padres are giving him away for almost nothing. He doesn’t want to be here so why have the rumors continue to float??
mel
November 16th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
That’s right, Kevin, make that list and check it twice.
-Cano
-Melky
-Gardner
-Alex
-Swish
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Mel, add Nady to that list. And, set up a Tazer strike zone. Every time the end of his bat goes out of the strike zone, he gets a jolt.
What kind of world do we live in where the Mavericks are on their way to being 2-8 and the Knicks 7-3?! (Go Knicks, beat up on all the non-Lakers teams)
dave,
I like Tex at first, but if Swisher plays outfield, you’ll see Damon in center. Nady, Damon, Swisher. Now that outfield doesn’t excite me defensively. If you get Tex, you can have Gardner in the outfield somewhere. Nady probably goes since he’s not in our longterm plans. Damon would be quite moveable, but we need him to leadoff.
If the union pressures CC to sign and the Yanks trade for Peavy, who else can they get for the rotation who really wants to be somewhere else?
Our rotation was too gruntled this year, we need more disgruntled starters!
GB7,
That’s right. I knew I was forgetting someone. But Nady’s so hot, I forget that he’s far from perfect.
As a Giants fan, I guess I am rooting for the Cowboys to win this game? Ew.
That may be correct, S.A., but I think as a good New Yorker and American you should still be rooting against the Cowboys. The Giants own the division anyway, I don’t think it really matters that much.
Mel,
2 things: 1- I think the Kidd acquistion killed them this season. From 06 to 07, they were off to a hot streak.
2- I think either Damon or Nady will be traded, have Swisher plays in one of the corner OF depending on the Teixiera signing. If Teixiera is signed, I think Damon will most likely be moved. Jeter could lead off since he bats over 300 when leading off, but the question is who will bat 2nd? Cashman got some serious thinking over the winter.
Of Damon and Nady, Nady is the most expendable. However, Nady may bring back the most in return because of youth and salary. I used “youth” in the sense that Nady’s younger….not a youngster.
And Posey hits a 3 run homer and the Beachboys lead 5-1 in the 7th.
Not sure that the Mets have anything of value (unless NYY’s are willing to take Santana’s contract in return). Detroit, Seattle, Cleveland, Cincinnati, and San Francisco are the teams that may want to deal.
SA,
since I’m a Cowboys fan (weird huh since i’m in ny lol), I will cheer for you. =) let’s go cowboys!!!
mel
November 16th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
GB7,
That’s right. I knew I was forgetting someone. But Nady’s so hot, I forget that he’s far from perfect.
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Oh, Mel. You just made me gag on my oatmeal.
Ed: you are dead to me.
Nick, lol oh c’mon! I been a CB fan since the days of Emmit Smith and Troy Akiman. can’t blame me for being a fan.
lol
LOL Ed!
I can blame you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONfsd9dlFFs
Bob, I agree. I don’t want anyone here that doesn’t want to play for the Yankees. That is including Mr. Sabathia. I want people like Nick Swisher who is estatic to be on this team. That is the kind of players I want. We do not need anymore Randy Johnson’s on this team.
lol, don’t worry morgan will retire soon.
The line up is a LONG way away. I can’t imagine them dumping Damon, they need his bat at the top of the lineup.
If they sign Teixeira, they will trade Swisher. I think they will use Swisher to show they don’t NEED to overpay for a firstbaseman.
“-Cano
-Melky
-Gardner
-Alex
-Swish
I have the urge to cue the Sesame Street music and sing “One of these things is not like the other….”
“Mel, add Nady to that list.”
Toss in Jeter, Damon and Molina so they don’t feel left out.
Damon sublett is 0-4 in the championship game in the Hawaiian league. Austin Romine has not played.
TD Redskins!
bummer.
lol
Ed,
A lot of people say that losing the Finals up 2-1 did them in. Stupid officiating. Simply breathing on Wade sent him to the line. There’s a video on youtube about all the phantom calls for wade.
GB7,
I knew you were old, but I didn’t think you were geriatric. Oatmeal? Did your Ensure squirt out your nose, too?
Apologies to the Knicks fan. I didn’t think that I could jinx a game in which they were up by 8 with less 55 seconds to go.
C’mon Dallas! Hopefully the game ends in a tie!
Ed – sign CC immediately
November 16th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Nick, lol oh c’mon! I been a CB fan since the days of Emmit Smith and Troy Akiman. can’t blame me for being a fan. lol
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“since the days of Emmitt Smith and Troy Aikman”? you young kids make me sick. You could have at least said Tony Dorsett.
Ed, you had better not ask who Tony Dorsett was, either, ir, I’m tracking you down with my walker.
Epic loss for Knicks just now. Ughh tired legs+jumpshooting team= late game blowout.
It’s not too late, Ed: you can be a Giants fan since the days of Brandon Jacobs and Eli Manning!
November 16th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Ed,
A lot of people say that losing the Finals up 2-1 did them in. Stupid officiating. Simply breathing on Wade sent him to the line. There’s a video on youtube about all the phantom calls for wade.
GB7,
I knew you were old, but I didn’t think you were geriatric. Oatmeal? Did your Ensure squirt out your nose, too?
Apologies to the Knicks fan. I didn’t think that I could jinx a game in which they were up by 8 with less 55 seconds to go.
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It Depends, Mel.
GB,
hmm..sorry? lol. I was only 10 when I started watching football and rooting for Dallas.
Join us Ed! Join us! Become a NY Giants fan. Step away from the dark light..
“I want people like Nick Swisher who is estatic to be on this team.”
Has he commented on the trade? I haven’t seen it anywhere.
Bob, Anything is possible but I think that is highly unlikely to happen.
lol, GB7. I thought it, but you said it.
I didn’t want to use soiled in the same sentence.
Did you hear them talking about Brackman? I don’t know if they mentioned Bleich. My hearing aid cuts out sometimes.
Pat,
I believe Cashman will hold a press conference very soon. He always holds a press conference.
SA,
I cheered for the Giants last year during the superbowl? does that count? lol
Daily News had it Pat.
pat, Swisher is just a happy-go-lucky guy with an infectious grin and he was in a bad situation on the South Side. So of course he’s happy! Plus, since he’s replacing both Giambi and Abreu (hi Al!) I think he gets two lockers.
“I cheered for the Giants last year during the superbowl? does that count?”
That’s a good start. I hope you’ll do it again this year too.
I forgive you. You’re not dead to me.
I heard that Swish was really upset with the blow-up doll in the clubhouse.
.
..
…
j/k
“SA,
I cheered for the Giants last year during the superbowl? does that count? lol”
That does indeed count! lol Baby steps
We’ll have you humming something by earth, wind and fire in no time.
mel
Was that Swisher?
ED- Join me as a Jets fan, heck its a lot more suffering than your used to but we are pretty good this year.
Nick, YES..I’m undead now. lol, I will not forgive what happened during the NFC between the Giants and Cowboys though.
Peavy!
November 16th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
“SA,
I cheered for the Giants last year during the superbowl? does that count? lolâ€
That does indeed count! lol Baby steps
We’ll have you humming something by earth, wind and fire in no time.
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I just can’t see “Shining Star” as a humable tune…sorry.
Nick in SF is absolutely right — gruntledness is vastly over-rated.
And most disgruntledness is instantly cured by winning. Build a winning team and it won’t be much of a factor.
Al,
with all due respect…I really hate the Jets, never liked them since the day I started watching football. It was either the Giants or the Cowboys for me.
Cashman should put a deadline of Tuesday on the offer, and if he doesn’t take it, let him take a walk to the National League to a Dodger team that will offer him $50 for 4 yrs., or the Angels who talk a big game, but will never pay him. The baloney about being near his new house is ridiculous because its about 450 miles away from LA, and San Fran can’t even afford their mortgage payments .If he wants to lose $75m because he wants to hit, go get a bat and knock yourself out. I wouldn’t want anyone here who doesn’t want to be here. Tell Peavy to shove it also.
I say sign Burnett if he wants to come, sign Teixera if he wants to come, trade Cano and Kennedy for pitching,(Greinke and Dejesus) and sign Hudson for great defense at 2nd base. Then celebrate the World Series. I feel that CC will be a bust in the AL anyway, and he knows it after his awful start last year.
AJW,
did Swish said what number he will wear?
SA,
I have to get a Giants jersey soon because of the NFC earlier in the year. I was thinking of Manning but everyone seems to have his jersey. I was thinking maybe Kevin Boss or Ahmed Bradshaw. Any recommandations?
“Al,
with all due respect…I really hate the Jets, never liked them since the day I started watching football. It was either the Giants or the Cowboys for me.”
Your upsetting a lot of folks in here you are a boys fan and a jets hater
I hate NFC football and I only root for NY teams so the choice of team was kinda pre-determined for me.
Trade Cano, but get a bat like DeJesus? That sort of defeats the purpose of getting a bat, doesn’t it? As far as defense goes, hudson ian’t any better on defense than you seem to think Cano is. Hudson doesn’t have half the arm that Cano has, nor the range, especially up the middle.
“SA,
I have to get a Giants jersey soon because of the NFC earlier in the year. I was thinking of Manning but everyone seems to have his jersey. I was thinking maybe Kevin Boss or Ahmed Bradshaw. Any recommandations?”
Boss or Bradshaw would be good. Also consider maybe Justin Tuck or Brandon Jacobs.
My vote would go for Tuck.
Al, yeah I know I should cheer for my own state’s team but the Cowboys were simply that better along with Steve Young and the 49ers that time.
Let Swisher wear #21.
***Hudson isn’t any better***
SA,
thanks. I will look into it.
Ed, no but I agree 100% with Nick in SF. This is the kind of player that deserves to wear 21.
Ed, would you have rooted for Germany in 1942 because they seemed “better” that year?!??!?!
“Let Swisher wear #21.”
I actually wouldn’t mind. His defensive skills sets the tone. If he regains his 2006/2007 form, then there won’t be any booing as long as he keeps doing his stuff.
The Chicago Bears need to bring back Bobby Douglass as their quarterback. Billy Wade just doesn’t have the arm strength to make a comeback.
Nick, lol, seriously simply no…
Nick in SF
November 16th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Ed, would you have rooted for Germany in 1942 because they seemed “better†that year?!??
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No way that I could have rooted for Germany after they bombed Pearl Harbor.
**K-ROD TO THE METS?!?!?**
According to El Universal, Francisco Rodriguez traveled to New York City ‘to be checked by doctors,’ in advance of eventually signing a contract with the Mets, according to a source linked to the closer.
“The Mets have made the best offer so far,†the source tells the Venezuelan newspaper, “though I know he wanted more money than what was offered.â€
http://www.metsblog.com/2008/11/16/relief-pitcher-k-rod-may-have-been-in-nyc/
The “trade Cano, sign Hudson” crowd needs to take a step-back. Cano is a 25 year old all-star second baseman who was one point away from winning a batting title in his second season in the bigs. Hudson is a quality ML 2B with a good glove and average bat, however he is 31 years old and coming off an injury this year. Giving up on Cano right now is absolutely insane, this is a trade that we’d all live to regret. Besides newly acquired Swisher Cano is our only position player under 30, just something to consider.
“No way that I could have rooted for Germany after they bombed Pearl Harbor.”
I’m fairly certain you meant Japan.
Al from BK( Fit CC for pinstripes. Jets alone in first!)
November 16th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
“No way that I could have rooted for Germany after they bombed Pearl Harbor.â€
I’m fairly certain you meant Japan.
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Man…nothing gets past you, does it?
Think “Animal House”.
pat
November 16th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
mel
Was that Swisher?
???????????
Hudson is a guy who wants to play, works hard, and has great instincts. Cano is a nonchalant guy who is awfully inconsistent and singlehandedly destroyed the team with one of the most awful 4-5 months I have ever seen, and is NOT a great defensive player. A .290 obp for 4 months? Come on. What is the fascination with this guy?
Getting to know CC. Courtesy of ccsabathia52.com
The visual of the “No One Can Believe It” question is a litle disturbing.
Favorite Movie: Goodfellas
Favorite TV Show: Entourage
Secret talent: I’m a really great dancer!
Favorite Musical Group / Artist: Jay-Z & E40
Favorite Thing to do away from baseball: PlayStation
Favorite Athlete Growing Up: Ken Griffey Jr.
Favorite Team: Oakland Raiders
Person who has most influenced you: My Mother (Margie)
Road City: Chicago
Road Ballpark: Safeco Field
If I wasn’t a baseball player: I would be a police officer
Nickname: Dub
No one can believe it: I danced with Oakland Ballet in the Nutcracker for charity
Favorite Baseball Moment: Hitting Home Run in Cincinnati in 2005
Favorite Holiday: Thanksgiving because of all the family togetherness and the great food!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI
Goodfellas and Entourage! Nice, CC.
I hope he can foresee replacing his favorite baseball moment with winning the World Series in pinstripes.
“No one can believe it: I danced with Oakland Ballet in the Nutcracker for charity”
Ralph C
November 16th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Hudson is a guy who wants to play, works hard, and has great instincts. Cano is a nonchalant guy who is awfully inconsistent and singlehandedly destroyed the team with one of the most awful 4-5 months I have ever seen, and is NOT a great defensive player. A .290 obp for 4 months? Come on. What is the fascination with this guy?
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He hit over .300 from May 1st until the end of the season. Even other trolls have seen worse seasons than that.
“Favorite Thing to do away from baseball: PlayStation”
CC (if he signs with the Yanks), Joba, and Swisher will be best friends.
No way that K Rod to the Mets for a physical rumor could be true right? I mean Sherman wrote today how it’s a buyer’s market on closers this year. I still think the Mets should trade us Beltran for Cano, Bruney and Marte. They need much help in their pen.
S.A.-Looking forward to 2009. Show CC the money and stay away from Peavy!
November 16th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
“No one can believe it: I danced with Oakland Ballet in the Nutcracker for charityâ€
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Something tells me that the Oakland Ballet was not a real pretty sight.
If it appear that the Yankees are going to land CC (ouch), then you’ll see more and more analysts coming out with buyer beware articles. I’ve seen one at si.com and page 2 on espn.com. They’ll talk about his weight, his heavy workload, and they’ve mentioned his poor starts and putrid postseason starts.
Also, gotta love the way that espn is participating in the smear Manny campaign during his FA.
Re: K-rod to the Mets. The Mets caught a break with the large # of closers on the market. Putz, Hoffman, Fuentes all depressed his market.
He may not have gotten the money he wanted, but he’s going to a team that has the potential to make the playoffs in any given year.
Yes Hudson plays hard and is a great fielder. However he is 6 years older than Cano. This team needs to get younger not older. Cano will have a bounce-back year in 09 and I for one would like him to be wearing pinstripes while doing so.
mel
November 16th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
If it appear that the Yankees are going to land CC (ouch), then you’ll see more and more analysts coming out with buyer beware articles. I’ve seen one at si.com and page 2 on espn.com. They’ll talk about his weight, his heavy workload, and they’ve mentioned his poor starts and putrid postseason starts.
Also, gotta love the way that espn is participating in the smear Manny campaign during his FA.
Re: K-rod to the Mets. The Mets caught a break with the large # of closers on the market. Putz, Hoffman, Fuentes all depressed his market.
He may not have gotten the money he wanted, but he’s going to a team that has the potential to make the playoffs in any given year.
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Yep, and you can add Bobby Jenks to that list of available closers.
Minaya must feel real good. Hes getting a prime age closer with filthy stuff AND hes latino
K-Rod lost some velocity on his fastball which made everyone concerned with.
Am I the only person who thinks the Yanks should offer Kerry Wood a 1 year incentive contract. If he is healthy he is a top ten reliever. Wouldn’t hurt to have more arms in the pen.
Am I the only person who thinks the Yanks should offer Kerry Wood a 1 year incentive contract. If he is healthy he is a top ten reliever. Wouldn’t hurt to have another big-time veteran arm in the pen. Marte/Melancon/Wood/Rivera/Coke/Bruney sounds like a ridiculously dominant pen with balance.
Is Cano a diva? Maybe he’s got his biorhythms synched up with Arod’s for an odd-year breakout.
Al,
Not a bad thought, but we have a pretty good bullpen with reinforcements on the way.
GB7,
Is Melancon expected to make the team out of ST?
Al,
Wood want to close. He’s most likely going to sign with the Rangers since he’s from Texas. I remember last offseason, everyone made a fuss signing Wood to be the long man. I think Wood still has the stuff to be a starter but the Cubs really messed him up by rushing him to the majors.
“But the Yankees didn’t send their batting coach from Arizona to the Dominican to tutor a player they want to trade.”
Why not?
Obvioulsy they are working on his improvement. But, it does not guarantee he will not be traded. If a good deal comes along that makes the team better, they can trade him.
If you get 2 top notch pitchers, Matsui & Posada back, and add a real 1B you’ve already improved the team ten-fold.
Cano’s a keeper. I say Cashman can do his thing without blowing up the core of what we have.
We’re getting those finishing pieces to push us over the top.
Add in Wang for a year and Joba for 25 starts and you improve the team twenty-fold.
“If it appear that the Yankees are going to land CC (ouch), then you’ll see more and more analysts coming out with buyer beware articles.”
Not without merit. Big bump up in work over the past 2 seasons and the 300 plus on those legs are legit reason for concern. Maybe not immediately, but the 2nd half of that contract could potentially be ugly. Still, as the best available, you have to make a run at him. Melvin’s not wrong. They are overpaying. But it’s necessary and they can do it well within budget.
And add CC and you improve the team thirty-fold!
Or at least expand its waistline.
“Al,
Wood want to close. He’s most likely going to sign with the Rangers since he’s from Texas. I remember last offseason, everyone made a fuss signing Wood to be the long man. I think Wood still has the stuff to be a starter but the Cubs really messed him up by rushing him to the majors.”
Ed- I’m afraid the Wood starting window has closed. His arm needs careful treatment I don’t think he will ever throw 200 innings again in his career. He might be tempted to come to a winning team as Mo’s right hand man in the pen. Just giving it a thought and he would cost far less than any other pen arm. Also I know we don’t NEED any pen arms but its great to have depth.
Just saw MTV TRL Live Finale Show is on. Snoop, Luda and Nelly in studio performing. Awesome.
TRL ended, in spirit, about 6 years ago.
Why would the Yankees want to fix Cano if he is to be traded when it won’t change his trade value? That doesn’t make any sense.
Pete,
Turn on the tv.
Bruce is debuting his new song on SNF
“Working on a Dream” seems like paint-by-numbers Springsteen, no?
mets fan think that pelfrey could net them peavy what a joke
redding. I think it is longer than that!
BTW, did anyone else notice the little reference to the point spead in the Steelers game that Costas made? Nice.
Nick,
With the exception of “Born in the USA”, all Springsteen songs sound the same to me. I guess that’s what makes him brilliant. Keeping it new and fresh.
“mets fan think that pelfrey could net them peavy what a joke”
Why not hes better than Hughes and some of us want to trade Hughes for him.
mel, I think the fault there might lie with you. “Badlands” doesn’t sound much like “Atlantic City”, does it?
pelfrey better than hughes What?
TRL’s downfall started with Carson left.
MTV in general has deteriorated since that point as well.
Nick,
Of course the fault lies with me. I couldn’t pick a Springsteen song out of a lineup.
Pelfrey had issues this season? Health?
“Am I the only person who thinks the Yanks should offer Kerry Wood a 1 year incentive contract.”
Doubt it, but I can’t see it happening. He went thru last season relatively unscathed, missing only a little time due to a blister. Further, while I’m sure the Yankees would definitely think about, so would 29 other teams, many of whom need closers. If Wood is to take a one year deal, he’s not taking to caddy for another closer. Closing is where the money is. Setting up isn’t. He’ll go with the team offering the chance to close.
Pelfrey 08 numbers: 13-11, 3.72 ERA, 32 starts.
Hughes 08 numbers: 0-4, 6.62 ERA, 8 starts.
Gee I wonder who has more value at the moment.
mel
November 16th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Al,
Not a bad thought, but we have a pretty good bullpen with reinforcements on the way.
GB7,
Is Melancon expected to make the team out of ST?
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He certainly could break camp with the Yanks, Mel…but, I’m guessing that he opens at Scranton, unless NYY deals people like Britton, Veres and Ramirez.
I recall that a lot of us thought Melancon was going to be up to the big club by July/August last season and it never happened. So…?
bk but who projects to be better in the long run
“unless NYY deals people like Britton, Veres and Ramirez.”
If Melancon is forced to stay down in SWB to make room for Britton I will go nuts. Whats this fascination with Britton. He is a mediocre reliever lets see what the actual prospects can show us.
“bk but who projects to be better in the long run”
Potential, and that’s what Phil is right now, oftentimes isn’t quite as easy a sell as actual accomplishment.
i believe in hughes
“bk but who projects to be better in the long run”
Phil does but he proved absolutely nothing last year except that he has a penchant for injury.
Nick in SF
November 16th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
I recall that a lot of us thought Melancon was going to be up to the big club by July/August last season and it never happened. So…?
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It was somewhat strange to see how Melonco was used in 2008 with so many multiple innings after coming off of Tommy John Surgery. 43 games and 95 innings.
I believe in Hughes too and I want the 2010 rotation to be:
CC
Wang
Joba
Hughes
Mussina/?
***Melancon***
GB7: if I recall correctly, Melancon’s pitch count per inning was pretty low, so a lot of those multiple-inning outings were more due to his dominance than carelessness or risk.
who signs first and where?
no i want the 2010 rotation to be cc/peavy/hughes/joba/???????????
I fear that Phil has a Ben Sheets like injury habit. Many consider Ben Sheets to be a top 3 ML pitcher when hes healthy, unfortunately Sheets has only been healthy for a few seasons in his entire career. I fear the same for Phil flashes of brilliance followed by failure and subsequent injury.
“no i want the 2010 rotation to be cc/peavy/hughes/joba/???????????”
Let me guess you are one of the idiots who wants to give the Padres Cano so we can force Peavy to come here. Thank God people like you don’t run this team.
or Rich Harden
i never said trade cano
Nick in SF
November 16th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
GB7: if I recall correctly, Melancon’s pitch count per inning was pretty low, so a lot of those multiple-inning outings were more due to his dominance than carelessness or risk.
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Oh, definately. He had a lot of 5-8 pitch innings. His walks and hits were pretty low and about a strikeout per inning. I’m trying to find a site that has his pitch count. He only faced 408 batters, too, so not not bad.
Al, the good news is that your fears may be groundless. There are many things to fear. Let’s live with Hope instead.
That should read 7-9 pitch innings.
“i never said trade cano”
So you plan on keeping both Cano and Hughes AND getting Peavy? lol.
I fear that if Phil starts in Scranton, he will feel compelled to make them look stupid. “Them” is open to interpretation.
Melancon in Scranton and if he’s blowing away hitters, they make room in the Bronx?
Britton shouldn’t even be part of the conversation.
I wouldn’t be overly shocked if the new ownership doesn’t make a surprise bid on Peavy, using Sonnenstin or Shields as the lead bait and filling in with their farm.
Check this out Gmarchese.blogspot.com,Thanks
Britton should get a special roster exemption and be allowed to live in East Stroudsburg close to the I-80 onramp.
November 16th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
I fear that if Phil starts in Scranton, he will feel compelled to make them look stupid. “Them†is open to interpretation.
Melancon in Scranton and if he’s blowing away hitters, they make room in the Bronx?
Britton shouldn’t even be part of the conversation.
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Britton was only in there in case he’s still in the system and on his and other’s performance and health. Personally, I think he gets traded with other bullpen and minor league starters as part of a deal for a big outfield bat.
“I wouldn’t be overly shocked if the new ownership doesn’t make a surprise bid on Peavy, using Sonnenstin or Shields as the lead bait and filling in with their farm.”
GB- Out of all places in the AL the Rays? If Peavy wont wave his NTC for the Yankees he would never entertain going to Tampa and pitching in that god awful dome.
Tampa will only be in that dome for another year or two.
I also didn’t say that he’ll end up in Tampa, only that Tampa may try to make a deal.
“Britton was only in there in case he’s still in the system and on his and other’s performance and health. Personally, I think he gets traded with other bullpen and minor league starters as part of a deal for a big outfield bat.”
Interesting theory GB, what big bat do you think it could be?
fine ipk,ajax,whelan,jones for peavy
I’d like Dye’s bat, but not his defense in right field. I’d start looking for a bat from a team with money problems and a player close to FA status.
“Tampa will only be in that dome for another year or two.”
One playoff appearance and Tampa is building them a new ballpark. Marlins have 2 WS and they still play in Dolphins stadium.
Tampa wouldn’t be too far for from Peavy’s home.
Lest anyone forget, Peavy is looking for CC type money. That’s more than the Tampa payroll.
Looking at Melancon’s Scranton stats. He had a 0.00 ERA when ahead in the count (3 hits in 8 innings) and a 0.00 ERA when the bases were empty (4 hits in 11.1 innings). Not as good when behind in the count (8.31), with runners on (6.23), or RISP (10.80). Meaningless stats, but interesting nonetheless.
what about hermida?
Felix Lopex, Randy Levine, Hank Steinbrenner and 2 construction workers who are working on the New Yankee Stadium for Peavy
“fine ipk,ajax,whelan,jones for peavy”
I’m sorry Ajax is untouchable.
As far as Tampa and Peavy goes…he’s close to home…Mobile, Alabama (about 300 miles), which is a preference for him.
and by Felix Lopex..I really meant Felix Lopez.
“Marlins have 2 WS and they still play in Dolphins stadium.”
Yeah, but they changed the name, didn’t they?
With the economy and lack of fans that new stadium for Tampa is not looking very good. There was an article about it and it doesn’t look very hopeful for them.
mel
November 16th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Tampa wouldn’t be too far for from Peavy’s home.
Lest anyone forget, Peavy is looking for CC type money. That’s more than the Tampa payroll.
Looking at Melancon’s Scranton stats. He had a 0.00 ERA when ahead in the count (3 hits in 8 innings) and a 0.00 ERA when the bases were empty (4 hits in 11.1 innings). Not as good when behind in the count (8.31), with runners on (6.23), or RISP (10.80). Meaningless stats, but interesting nonetheless.
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True, Mel, but, this new ownership is starting to spend money and, they’ve got the approval and votes to start on a new stadium in Pinellas County.
I think the first off-season signing will be K-Rod to the Mets for 4 years 56 million.
so you guys would prefer to see peavy in rays uniform than wearing pinstripes
That’s called a false choice.
Plus we don’t get to choose.
“fine ipk,ajax,whelan,jones for peavy”
LOL
1. He doesn’t want to be here
2. SD wants more than that
3. Ajax shouldn’t even be in this deal
4. His agent has expressed if he were to come to NY he wants CC money if they pay CC 22 million he’s going to want 20 million per yr. too.
That is enough to tell you game set and match stay in the NL I don’t even know why so much fascination for a guy in a poor division, pitcher’s park. I say no, I hope Cashman & Fishman think about that long and hard.
“so you guys would prefer to see peavy in rays uniform than wearing pinstripes”
No, I would prefer Sabathia in a pinstripes and Peavy in the NL where he belongs. Don’t fear the hear-say the Rays are not going to get Peavy.
trade for peavy! hughes not included
November 16th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
so you guys would prefer to see peavy in rays uniform than wearing pinstripes
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The only preference I saw about Peavy going to another team was yes to the Yankees and no to the Yankees. I only put out that it would surprise me if Tampa made a bid to trade for him. Personally, I don’t care where he goes.
“so you guys would prefer to see peavy in rays uniform than wearing pinstripes”
LOL. the Rays don’t even have the farm to trade for Peavy.
Congrats Ed on your Cowboys winning tonight.
Keep Peavy away from us
you guys will be kissing ### in the middle of the season when he is dominating the red sox and rest of the al
There was no “hear-say”. It was an opinion that the Tampa team would make a try at it. THERE IS NO RUMORS.
“so you guys would prefer to see peavy in rays uniform than wearing pinstripes”
They’d have to deal thier 1st 2nd and 3rd best prospect
David Price, BJ Upton and Tim Beckham ….so YES
ARE not IS.
SA,
lol hehehe..thank you thank you!
I don’t think the Rays are any threat to acquire Peavy.
Their opening day payroll for 2008 was $43M. Their projected 2009 payroll is already up to $55M – 60M due to scheduled pay increases in their long term deals and arbitration (8 players eligible).
Their biggest need right now is a RF. Eric Hinske is a free agent and he only made $800,000 last year. He’ll make a lot more next year if they bring him back.
So as it is the rays are in for a 25%-35% increase in payroll as it is now.
Peavy is completely unaffordable for them and pitching is a real strength at baseline.
If they trade Jackson or Sonnastine it’ll be for hitting.
What guys will be kissing what because of what?
You have problems.
I didn’t watch the game how did DeAngelo Hall do ?
trade for peavy! hughes not included read CB’s post…That is what we call getting
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“I didn’t watch the game how did DeAngelo Hall do ?”
he was decent. his first game as a Skin, he intercepted Romo’s throw.
“you guys will be kissing ### in the middle of the season when he is dominating the red sox and rest of the al”
Dude you are such a panic mode fan. If we get CC/AJ I dont give a crap if the Rays have Peavy the Yankees beat up on him back in interleague play this year. I am not concerned unless he goes to the sux which he wont.
“he was decent. his first game as a Skin, he intercepted Romo’s throw. ”
DA would have looked good on the other side w/ Webster
Giants DB sti;; is a weakness.
still*
No way Brandon, no way do we need someone like Hall, we have Aaron Ross and when Dockery gets back were fine.. The past two games, the D-Line hasn’t been getting to the QB so the WR have more time to move around and get open…
and I want to know what everyone would be saying if Cano batted over .300.. You take away his first month and the guy bats over .300..Watch the damn games when they’re on..
as long they dont sign aj or lowe
Peavy lover, your making no sense.. go to bed
why?
What happened in the last 11 days?
Nov. 5th, “Posada-like deal being sought”
Nov. 16th, “Varitek not looking for Posada-like deal” [i.e. less years]
huh?
“as long they dont sign aj or lowe”
huh? make some sense.
signing burnett or lowe is what the yankees are trying to stay away from signing old pitchers to long contracts
The Rays def have the players to get Peavy.. Come on, use your head
thats why i would trade for peavy instead the yanks have to change their old big star free agent philosophy
Mel- Obviously nobody bit on Varitek and now Boras is trying to get a deal and cut his losses.
“No way Brandon, no way do we need someone like Hall, we have Aaron Ross and when Dockery gets back were fine..”
He’s been getting burned the past couple of weeks he’s ok in stalking those under throws or tipped balls but 1 on 1 he’s been getting burned, he has alot to learn and is playing hurt, btw the worst DB we have is Dockery he always has his back to the ball, extremely frustating to watch that’s another reason I’m souring on Ross he’s doing that alot, Webster is a different story he can stick ya and get aggressive and jump your route. Hall could have added perfectly needed depth.
Lowe is perfect for our team.. CC JOBA and Wang are going to be around for awhile, if we get CC, and Lowe is a guy who can come in and be a perfect inning eater, and keep us in the game every night.. I’d like Peavy, but im not goin to pleasure myself over him..
“signing burnett or lowe is what the yankees are trying to stay away from signing old pitchers to long contracts”
oh please. so should stay away far far far away from CC too since Cashman offered 6 years, $140? a bit too much? sheesh, signing CC and pitchers long term will sure block our prospects from being in the rotation. (scarasm)
i don’t think the Giants need a guy like Hall, he’s a cancer.. we have to much unity right now.. if somethings not that hurt why fix it, Thomas is doing ok and we have good ol Sammy still, we’ll be fine
“signing burnett or lowe is what the yankees are trying to stay away from signing old pitchers to long contracts”
What are you talking about AJ is 32 and he might get 4 years. The reason why nobody wants to trade for Peavy is that he would cost money and prospects where AJ and CC will just cost money. I actually like peavy I think hes a bulldog but he just seems like he wants to stay in the NL at all costs.
Burger King Al, good point.. this guy’s an idiot.
exactly 32 and pitched 200 innings once in the last 4 or 5 yrs for 4yrs you would make a great gm
Francesa time
“Thomas is doing ok and we have good ol Sammy still, we’ll be fine”
No he’s not, the times he’s been out there he’s been suceptible to the first move. Sam Madison is good in the goaline coverage where he doesn’t have to work w/ huge space. I know Hall has his issues but we’re risking alot in our secondary forcing Ross to play when he’s hurt and Webster. If one of them go down there is no option we just aren’t strong there, heck this upcoming draft they have to go for 2 DBs because we’re going to need the depth at that position.
“The Rays def have the players to get Peavy.. Come on, use your head”
no they don’t. they are not going to trade away their top prospects such as Mitch Talbot for Peavy.
“exactly 32 and pitched 200 innings once in the last 4 or 5 yrs for 4yrs you would make a great gm”
Are you going to respond to CB’s post you know the one he proved everything you said to be wrong ?
“The Rays def have the players to get Peavy.. Come on, use your headâ€
no they don’t. they are not going to trade away their top prospects such as Mitch Talbot for Peavy.
I was just telling that to the Jake Peavy lover guy.. I was proving him wrong, he said that Tampa doesn’t have the prospects..haha
i never said the rays would trade for peavy i said you guys would prefer peavy be with the rays instead than with the yanks
Brandon calm down big guy,haha.. I forgot sry my mind wasn’t on LoHud’s blog..
I see what your saying, about Hall,he’s a good young player. But the Giants don’t need his type in the locker room, I believe we got rid of people that are me first
“exactly 32 and pitched 200 innings once in the last 4 or 5 yrs for 4yrs you would make a great gm”
I would make a better GM than you. You want to trade Austin Jackson who is our only position prospect in high A ball along for a pitcher that has no desire to pitch on a big stage and has away numbers comparable to Rasner/Ponson. If the Yanks can pull a steal for Peavy then I’d support it but I’m not giving up the Ajax’ and Montero’s of the world for Peavy.
and did you notice that no one replied back to the what if, about cano having a good year, what they would say if he had a good yer.. haha people on here are pathetic, the only time i post something is if I read somehting that’s stupid.. and i’ve seen some today, so far trade Nady, Trade Cano, Trade Britton for a power bat, haha.. jesus, you guys REALLY need to leave the blog a little bit and see the out side light.. and read up on you baseball..
Cashman is not going to trade Ajax, our CFer for the future. He has plans for him, just like the Reds did with Jay Bruce.
so give it up already!
i agree with you Ed
as long they dont give up hughes, montero, romine and melacon am fine with the peavy trade
I wonder what the Titans are gonna do about Vince Young?
ajax doesnt have the same potential as jay bruce c’mon
SA,
trade or release him?
“trade for peavy! hughes not included November 16th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
as long they dont give up hughes, montero, romine and melacon am fine with the peavy trade”
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Why do you even want to trade for a pitcher that doesn’t wanna pitch in the AL/for the Yankees. Not to mention pay him Santana/Sabathia type money..
“ajax doesnt have the same potential as jay bruce c’mon”
oh please. i NEVER did said he has the same potential as bruce. I’m just telling it as it is.
Ed- I could see them trading him. I dunno about releasing him though. Maybe..
Hopefully Vince is doing better now
who said the yankees are going to pay him cc money
THey aren’t going to trade Vince, bc they run into the situation of not having a QB, come on people.. Kerry Collins is old, they’re going to let him learn some more and he’s still young.. The Titans already said this
Here’s Francesa with hotstove talk
I’m not advocating that Cashman obtains Peavy if it costs Jackson or Hughes..So that very well keep him from coming to the Bronx….But make no mistake, Peavy is a real good pitcher whether he’s pitching in Petco, Yankee Stadium or at Cardinal Hayes HS….He’ll win 17 + games but he’ll also only give you 6 innings as he tends to run up pitch counts quickly…..The problem I see with him is what he’ll cost in terms of talent to get him…..
S.A.: Rumor is that the Titans are going to trade Vince Young to the Padres for Jake Peavy. He wants to be close to home and it keeps him out of the American League.
SA, who knows? hopefully by playoff time, the Titans could use him more. speaking of the Titans, please don’t tell me they are going to try the winning streak from now to the superbowl. that actually worked quite well for the Pats last year, 18-1.
“who said the yankees are going to pay him cc money”
genius, if you read the articles…Peavy, Barry Axelrod, and Kevin Towers mentioned. If Peavy were to approve the trade to the Yankees, he would require a contract renewal.
“Here’s Francesa with hotstove talk”
SA- I’m watching something else right now can you fill me in on what Francessa said hot-stove wise.
“trade for peavy! hughes not included November 16th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
who said the yankees are going to pay him cc money”
For Peavy to waive his NTC and possibly come to the Yankees, his agent pretty much said homie wants to be paid.
“SA- I’m watching something else right now can you fill me in on what Francessa said hot-stove wise.”
Al-honestly. It was nothing new. Yanks made an offer to CC. Shocking.
i see it this way if the sd was going to accept that crappy package the braves were giving them then why shouldnt the yanks make a similiar offer
“S.A.: Rumor is that the Titans are going to trade Vince Young to the Padres for Jake Peavy. He wants to be close to home and it keeps him out of the American League.”
I approve that trade.
by picking up his option ok i see
And it’s better for the Padres to get their QB situation taken care of now, before Michael Vick gets back out onto the market.
Because you really don’t want him in PetCo Park.
“by picking up his option ok i see”
he doesn’t even have an option. sheesh!
better yet, Peavy isn’t set to be a free agent until 2013.
he does 22 mil pay attention to detail! c’mon
Also, people need to stop putting AJ in the AARP category. In the middle of the ‘09 season these guys will be this old:
(29) CC Sabathia
(31) Josh Beckett
(32) AJ Burnett
(36) Derrick Lowe
(37) Andy Pettitte (only wants a 1-yr contract!)
(40) Mike Mussina
(46) Jamie Moyer
(66) Julio Franco
McNabb didn’t know there were ties in the NFL?
“he does 22 mil pay attention to detail! c’mon”
4 years/$14.5M (2005-08), plus 2009 club option
3 years/$52M (2010-2012), plus 2013 club option
Where is his player option where ? 2012 he has a normal deal, the club has an option.
(94) Livan Hernandez
“he does 22 mil pay attention to detail! c’mon”
no you pay attention. read Brandon’s post.
you need glasses dude wow
Nick,
He’s an inning eaters, but he eats very healthy.
Why hate on trade for Peavy? He’s just being passionate.
The innings go down better with Metamusil.
That ‘brett is god’ guy/gal was passionate too!
“you need glasses dude wow”
what a corny statement. telling people that they need glasses online. i am wearing glasses, feel stupid now? you know what….
PUT…DOWN…THE…CONTROLLER…AND…STEP…AWAY!!!
“Why hate on trade for Peavy? He’s just being passionate.”
yeah, passionate enough to bring up dumb trade proposals. sigh!!
I need glasses, too. Are our civil liberties being violated?
Nick,
I still love the handle, “Jessie Litsch eats babies.”
We need to put out APBs and BOLOs for: Angel, randyl, who else?
Ed,
Everybody’s put up some whoppers. Look no further than our favorite “Arroyo/McClouth/Blalock/Gerut” guy.
“(94) Livan Hernandez”
That makes Duque 103! No wonder he’s always on the DL.
who was that again ?
An APB for Dr. Acula please!
One has to think that Cashamn has made an offer to test the waters on getting Peavy….The real question is how low an offer will Towers accept…..
Mel,
lol, ahh the world of Yankee Lo Hud Blogs.
Pat M,
Peavy’s really yacking himself out of a nice new zip code. The more players involved the better chance something gets done.
If the NL teams drop out of the running, the Angels and Peavy may be a very good match. Peavy’s used to pitching in the obscurity of the west (sorry, that’s a fact). The Yankees will fill their needs via free agency.
Ed,
That Gerut fan is a really sweet kid.
Buddy,
Yes! Dr. Acula had great photo albums.
The Peavy trade hasn’t gone away ….When I was in Torey Pines during the Playoffs is when I first heard about Peavy being of interest to Brian Cashman…..I just think we have not heard the last of him coming to the Bronx….I just hope it doesn’t cost Hughes or Jackson…I do believe the trade has some legs to it….
PAT M
November 17th, 2008 at 12:53 am
The Peavy trade hasn’t gone away ….When I was in Torey Pines during the Playoffs is when I first heard about Peavy being of interest to Brian Cashman…..I just think we have not heard the last of him coming to the Bronx….I just hope it doesn’t cost Hughes or Jackson…I do believe the trade has some legs to it….
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I’d guess that somehow, a middle infielder – Pena/Corona/Sublett, an outfielder/infielder type – Russo, Colin Curis, catcher – Romine and young pitchers – Kennedy/Aceves/Cox/Veres would be the part of the combinations and cash that SD would get back. Given the amount of compensation money that Peavy’s agent is talking, they aren’t going to get 4 blue chippers.
Colin Curtis
GB7,
That makes some sense. The Braves must’ve balked at something. Can you give an Yankee eqivalent of what the Braves package that was bandied about?
I think Kennedy & Aceves would be a good start.
Kennedy/Aceves/Veras/Russo. That’s 3 cost-controlled major-league ready pitchers and a decent, versatile prospect.
I don’t think trading for Peavy is very smart.
If the guy clearly doesn’t want to pitch in the AL (or NY for that matter), then why would you push the issue?
Any player who is uncomfortable with his situation is going to be distracted and probably won’t be ready to face the obvious challenges that go with playing in NY against much tougher competition.
He’s probably not worth the gamble, and frankly, I don’t expect a deal to happen because Cashman probably won’t be willing to give up the young talent in return that Towers would require.
I thought we all loved Aceves and wanted him to be a Yankee-for-life and now he’s part of the Peavy pretend package?
Booooooooooo!
Here’s what I say: don’t trade away any pitchers from Taiwan or Mexico, the only foreign countries I visited in 2007. Especially not for some petulant PetCo poser.
Igawa (eating most of the salary), Kennedy, and Melky for Peavy? does that make sense? no?
Viper,
There’s a chance (1%?) that Peavy comes in a deal.
There aren’t many teams willing to take on the salary consideration. Especially as the baseball economy constricts.
Towers won’t have the luxury of being picky. He needs to make a deal soon, or he’ll end up with the kind of package that Smith got for Santana.
If Peavy gets traded to the Yankees, I suspect he’ll be very happy with his new circumstances. He’ll be in hog-heaven as they say in the south.
Mel,
You can’t make someone comfortable with his surroundings if he doesn’t feel comfortable in his gut.
And that’s a big problem for the Yanks because he’s going to have a ton of pressure on him and facing much tougher competition.
Granted, there’s a big age difference – but the last guy they tried to force someone to pitch in NY who really didn’t want to be there is Randy Johnson.
And that didn’t work out too well.
I hope Peavy ends up with the Cubs because I don’t think he’d have the makeup to pitch in NY in a much more hostile environment.
Nicky,
I love Aceves, too! But he’d be popular for a certain demographic. That’s why I suggested him. If it was Seattle, I would’ve thrown in Igawa instead.
If you go to Jennings’ blog, you’ll see the logjam there will be at AAA Scranton. Moreso, if we pick up 3 FA pitchers (including Andy). Rasner saw the writing on the wall. Some of these pitchers are going to have to be moved soon.
We’re no longer worried about the NY comfort level in CC’s gut?
Or is that his gut is amply insulated and won’t be a problem?
mel
November 17th, 2008 at 1:20 am
GB7,
That makes some sense. The Braves must’ve balked at something. Can you give an Yankee eqivalent of what the Braves package that was bandied about?
I think Kennedy & Aceves would be a good start.
Kennedy/Aceves/Veras/Russo. That’s 3 cost-controlled major-league ready pitchers and a decent, versatile prospect.
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Mel, they need so much that it’s difficult to say, but, two starters middle infield help and bullpen help, I guess are their biggest needs. They also, unless I missed it, have little catching other than Nick Hundley, in the system.
Atlanta, according to rumors, offered two starting ptchers, a shortstop and a relief pitcher.
Nick,
I don’t think CC’s comfort level was ever really an issue, which is part of the reason that I really hated the opening salvo being such an obscene amount. Ball players spend their winters at home and are on the road half the time no matter where they play.
After deep, deep introspection I’ve determined that I really don’t like the big OMG! push for CC because he’s not all that special. Wang gives me the same production. CC’s also been grossly overused. He won’t be in New York, but I hope that this stuff doesn’t catch up to him. But I’ll gladly cheer for him if he becomes a Yankee.
GB7,
How can they resist a package of IPK/ACE/Igawa-san/Veras/Ramirez/Melky/Russo AND a salary dump? There’s quanity and if you mine hard enough, there might be some gold. J/K I don’t want Peavy that badly. Don’t even want him at all, but I can be convinced for IPK/Aceves/Veras/Russo.
Mel, Peavy doesn’t really give me a comfort level, either. He missed 8 starts in 2008 and back in 2004. His innings dropped 75 innings since last year, but, the kicker is that in the last two years, he only recorded 16 outs in games that he lasted more than 7 complete innings. A lot of 6 inning games, and that’s not a 20 mil a year pitcher.
GB7,
LOL. Are you kidding? He pitches in the National League! They’re forever switching out starters for offense depending on where they are in the lineup. 6 innings in the NL is like 7 innings in the AL.
But in general, I wouldn’t have a real comfort level with any NL pitcher. Especially one with Peavy’s away splits.
Looking at Becky’s stats, he only had (2) 200 IP years (2006 & 2007). Do you know why he pitched so few in the years leading up to that? Was Beckett injured or still building up innings?
Mel, he was throwing upwards of 90-100 pitches in those games. His missed starts were from an elbow/forearm injury. As far as Beckett goes, a lot of his missed starts were because of finger blisters. This year, I believe was a rib cage/oblique injury.
I think Beckett has missed games due to puka shell cuts too.
Under further review, in 27 starts this year, he only had 2 games of less than 90 pitches, 72 and 87. He only had 4 other games of 90-99 pitches.
Oh. Okay. I think someone needs to start peeing on his fingers to toughen them up.
If the Red Sox ever sign Moises Alou, Beckett will be unstoppable.
mel
November 17th, 2008 at 2:14 am
Oh. Okay. I think someone needs to start peeing on his fingers to toughen them up.
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I’d volunteer to pee in his Ovaltine. Somebody else will have to get closer to his hands.
Just be happy that Posada, Alou and Beckett aren’t on the same team.
Okay, guys. On that note, good night.
p.s. GB7, the kids did it, huh? Sublett was 0-fer, but Brackman and Bleich pitched well the last few weeks to put them in the position to play in today’s title game. Good for them.
(CC is special)
mel
November 17th, 2008 at 2:21 am
Okay, guys. On that note, good night.
p.s. GB7, the kids did it, huh? Sublett was 0-fer, but Brackman and Bleich pitched well the last few weeks to put them in the position to play in today’s title game. Good for them.
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Yeah, they did. Bleich was very impressive, considering he only had 3 innings of professional ball before this. Brackman had none. Sublett turned into a bit of a run producer. Romine’s injruy concerns me a little, though. They had 3 catcher there and even before the injury, he was getting fewer at bats than the others. Posey was used as a catcher and a lot of DH time. I’d love to see the Yanks and others field their own complete teams, there and in Arizona, although, there are limited facilities in Hawaii.
I know completely OT but has anyone heard the news the Swisher’s girl is Anna Benson pt. 2 and apparently Arod is smitten w/ Kate Hudson …(Madge’s friend)
there is considerable concern in my mind that Phil Hughes is the 2nd coming of Nick Johnson. remember him? consistent .400 obp and 900 ops. cannot for the life of him stay healthy. now playing for the washington nationals.
bardos
November 17th, 2008 at 2:59 am
there is considerable concern in my mind that Phil Hughes is the 2nd coming of Nick Johnson. remember him? consistent .400 obp and 900 ops. cannot for the life of him stay healthy. now playing for the washington nationals.
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Good news, then. As long as Hughes doesn’t play first base, he won’t be the next Nick Johnson.