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		<title>By: Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OY I hope you all are enjoying the lack of hot stove action because things are heating up for me.

 Evidence final tomorrow and I think if I read one more line that talks about the circumstantial guarantees of trustworthiness or the ban on evidence used to prove action in conformity therewith, I may jump out the window. Wish me luck and enjoy the night. GB, play nice lol.

Oh and isn&#039;t Horne available for other teams in the Rule 5?  While I doubt anybody would pick him, you never know. But you have to think nobody is going to take a guy in a trade they could get for a spot on the 40 man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OY I hope you all are enjoying the lack of hot stove action because things are heating up for me.</p>
<p> Evidence final tomorrow and I think if I read one more line that talks about the circumstantial guarantees of trustworthiness or the ban on evidence used to prove action in conformity therewith, I may jump out the window. Wish me luck and enjoy the night. GB, play nice lol.</p>
<p>Oh and isn&#8217;t Horne available for other teams in the Rule 5?  While I doubt anybody would pick him, you never know. But you have to think nobody is going to take a guy in a trade they could get for a spot on the 40 man.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenBeret7</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenBeret7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dave 
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:11 pm 
  
I dunno how much damon would actually get in a trade but packaged with a couple of pitching prospects like horne or marquez, that would get us someone pretty decent esp if the yanks ate some of damons salary.


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I&#039;m beginning to think that you only type stuff to be typing.

Why would NYY trade their only guy that is actually a leadoff hitter and one of the few guys with speed?

Also, you apparently didn&#039;t realize that Horne had surgery and won&#039;t be ready anytime soon.  Oh, Yes...Marquez was traded for Swisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dave<br />
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:11 pm </p>
<p>I dunno how much damon would actually get in a trade but packaged with a couple of pitching prospects like horne or marquez, that would get us someone pretty decent esp if the yanks ate some of damons salary.</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m beginning to think that you only type stuff to be typing.</p>
<p>Why would NYY trade their only guy that is actually a leadoff hitter and one of the few guys with speed?</p>
<p>Also, you apparently didn&#8217;t realize that Horne had surgery and won&#8217;t be ready anytime soon.  Oh, Yes&#8230;Marquez was traded for Swisher.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenBeret7</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenBeret7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bru 
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:33 pm 

he could be very good.

it’s gonna take more than a toss in reliever to land him.

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He&#039;s a 25 year old DH.  a very bad defensive 1st baseman.  They have more money tied up in 23 year old Billy Butler, a14th overall pick in 2004, so, who do you keep?  That gives them 2 first basemen that can&#039;t field the position.  Not counting the other 2 first basemen they have,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bru<br />
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:33 pm </p>
<p>he could be very good.</p>
<p>it’s gonna take more than a toss in reliever to land him.</p>
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<p>He&#8217;s a 25 year old DH.  a very bad defensive 1st baseman.  They have more money tied up in 23 year old Billy Butler, a14th overall pick in 2004, so, who do you keep?  That gives them 2 first basemen that can&#8217;t field the position.  Not counting the other 2 first basemen they have,</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno if you are still looking at this thread bru but I do like the idea of trading for a number three Starter rather than signing one. If we signed a number Tex, CC and a number three starter without signing pettitte, i would not sign or trade for another starter and try to fill the hole within be it aceves or coke (NOT HUGHES.) As for signing tex and then, trading for a CF I guess I dont really see the need at the moment because we have swisher. Of course, we could deal swisher and one of our other outfielders for a young outfielder or we could  start swisher in left, trade damon for a center or right fielder and play nady at the other position. I dont think matsui has any trade value at the moment and is viewed by other teams as a high priced, injury prone DH in his declining years. Damon on the other hand does have some value but i would trade him for another  younger leadoff hitter who has speed and plays good defense - with tex, arod and posada our lineup needs speed over power. i would prefer a rightfielder for damon so we could play swisher and nady in center and left. I dunno how much damon would actually get in a trade but packaged with a couple of pitching prospects like horne or marquez, that would get us someone pretty decent esp if the yanks ate some of damons salary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno if you are still looking at this thread bru but I do like the idea of trading for a number three Starter rather than signing one. If we signed a number Tex, CC and a number three starter without signing pettitte, i would not sign or trade for another starter and try to fill the hole within be it aceves or coke (NOT HUGHES.) As for signing tex and then, trading for a CF I guess I dont really see the need at the moment because we have swisher. Of course, we could deal swisher and one of our other outfielders for a young outfielder or we could  start swisher in left, trade damon for a center or right fielder and play nady at the other position. I dont think matsui has any trade value at the moment and is viewed by other teams as a high priced, injury prone DH in his declining years. Damon on the other hand does have some value but i would trade him for another  younger leadoff hitter who has speed and plays good defense &#8211; with tex, arod and posada our lineup needs speed over power. i would prefer a rightfielder for damon so we could play swisher and nady in center and left. I dunno how much damon would actually get in a trade but packaged with a couple of pitching prospects like horne or marquez, that would get us someone pretty decent esp if the yanks ate some of damons salary.</p>
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		<title>By: bru</title>
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		<dc:creator>bru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080807&amp;content_id=3269109&amp;vkey=news_kc&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=kc.

he could be very good.

it&#039;s gonna take more than a toss in reliever to land him.</description>
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<p>he could be very good.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s gonna take more than a toss in reliever to land him.</p>
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		<title>By: bru</title>
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		<dc:creator>bru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we alos potentially fix our outfield problem for next year also with swish &amp; a new cf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we alos potentially fix our outfield problem for next year also with swish &amp; a new cf.</p>
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		<title>By: bru</title>
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		<dc:creator>bru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dave 
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:23 pm 
Bru,

With arbitration factored in the payroll comes in between 142 and 144 maybe even 145. If Tex and cc sign a contract that is backloaded which most long contracts usually are (look at giambi’s for example) then we can sign 140 and 160 million dollar deals and not have to pay CC or Tex 23.5 or 20 million dollars next season. We could pay them maybe 20 and 17 or even less depending on how the contract breaks down. Either way, we could afford to sign both of them, re-sign pettitte and either sign or trade for a number 3 starter worth no more than 15 million and still keep the payroll at or around 200 million.

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ok,makes sense.what do you think about trading damon,matsui,signing cc,tex &amp; a # 3 startes &amp; have payroll at 177 million.then trade for a cf or package prospects with damon or matsui to get one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dave<br />
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:23 pm<br />
Bru,</p>
<p>With arbitration factored in the payroll comes in between 142 and 144 maybe even 145. If Tex and cc sign a contract that is backloaded which most long contracts usually are (look at giambi’s for example) then we can sign 140 and 160 million dollar deals and not have to pay CC or Tex 23.5 or 20 million dollars next season. We could pay them maybe 20 and 17 or even less depending on how the contract breaks down. Either way, we could afford to sign both of them, re-sign pettitte and either sign or trade for a number 3 starter worth no more than 15 million and still keep the payroll at or around 200 million.</p>
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<p>ok,makes sense.what do you think about trading damon,matsui,signing cc,tex &amp; a # 3 startes &amp; have payroll at 177 million.then trade for a cf or package prospects with damon or matsui to get one.</p>
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		<title>By: bru</title>
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		<dc:creator>bru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>imo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>imo</p>
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		<title>By: bru</title>
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		<dc:creator>bru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no way veras,britton,ramirez get&#039;s you Kila Kaai’hue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no way veras,britton,ramirez get&#8217;s you Kila Kaai’hue.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bru,

With arbitration factored in the payroll comes in between 142 and 144 maybe even 145. If Tex and cc sign a contract that is backloaded which most long contracts usually are (look at giambi&#039;s for example) then we can sign 140 and 160 million dollar deals and not have to pay CC or Tex 23.5 or 20 million dollars next season. We could pay them maybe 20 and 17 or even less depending on how the contract breaks down. Either way, we could afford to sign both of them, re-sign pettitte and either sign or trade for a number 3 starter worth no more than 15 million and still keep the payroll at or around 200 million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bru,</p>
<p>With arbitration factored in the payroll comes in between 142 and 144 maybe even 145. If Tex and cc sign a contract that is backloaded which most long contracts usually are (look at giambi&#8217;s for example) then we can sign 140 and 160 million dollar deals and not have to pay CC or Tex 23.5 or 20 million dollars next season. We could pay them maybe 20 and 17 or even less depending on how the contract breaks down. Either way, we could afford to sign both of them, re-sign pettitte and either sign or trade for a number 3 starter worth no more than 15 million and still keep the payroll at or around 200 million.</p>
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