I guess $140m isn’t worth what it use to be…

excellent idea

i don’t know if i would lower the dollar amount though.

i think with a little pressure cc signs.

we need to put an end to cc playing us.

there are only a few offers for him & he clearly isn’t happy with the brewers or the others or he would have accepted one.

140 million will not be easy to turn down foir being close to home for 80 games or 3 months.

with milwaukee the only difference is the nl.he is not close to home.he might be closer in st that’s it.

i don’t see him playing in milwaukee for a chance to hit a few times a week and it costing him 40 million or so.

he is waiting for a team to come very close or match it.i am not sure how important it is for him to be the highest paid pitcher in history.i am sure he wouldn’t mind it.

furcal can easilly replace cano and having kemp with furcal upgrades the offense & cf big time.

i don’t understand why most people wouldn’t wan’t to trade cano for kemp.we lose absolutely nothing as far as numbers,obp,etc….

he is also younger,cheaper.

do not be suprised if cano is traded very soon & don’t give me any of that no way long goes to the dr if the yankees were going to trade cano.

this team needs a big change & i am glad cashman realizes this.

only a dummy doesn’t trade cano for kemp if an option is out there to sign furcal or get another 2nd baseman who comes close to cano’s production.

no way we go with gardner and or melky in cf.

i am not saying cano is needed to get a cf but it is an option.

if we can get a cf without using cano i am all for it but it would cost a few good prospects maybe hughes,ajax.

trading cano for kemp and maybe signing furcal allows us to keep all of our prospects including ajax,hughes,kennedy,etc…..

1) I pull CC’s offer, and make another at $135m
2) I offer Tex 7/$143.5
3) I tell CC’s agent if Tex signs first, they pull CC’s offer
4) I tell Tex’s agent if CC signs first, they pull Tex’s offer
BOTH agents are aware of #3 and #4. Both Agents understand ONLY the first to accept gets Yankees money

When CC see’s this, he will understand he just lost $5m, and will probablty lose another $15m-$25m if he doesn’t act fast.

The truth is, while we NEED CC more, both players improve the team a similar amount.

This will probably speed un a decision by one of them, and then the Yankees can adjust, knowing they got 1 of the big 2, and then chase other players accordingly.

the best news i’ve heard yet.

getting kemp for cano makes sense because he is cheaper,2 yrs younger,it fixes cf & he is almost the exact same offensive player who could take off big time.

i guess my trade cano idea isn’t as crazy as many make it sound.

Dodgers, Yanks Resume Cano Discussions
By Tim Dierkes [December 8 at 12:02pm CST]
According to Ken Rosenthal, the Dodgers and Yankees have resumed their discussions about second baseman Robinson Cano at the Meetings. The Dodgers also like Melky Cabrera, while the Yankees hope to get Matt Kemp and pitching from L.A.

if we can upgrade there i don’t care how we do it but i don’t see gardner/melky as a solution

Haha

if you were to tell me that because of the yankees approach we are losing players then i would agree.

i think it is because the red sox have produced more & better players from their system allowing them to lower payroll & not be as desperate with free agents.

they target pitching ,high obp players,defense wich is the safest,best way to do it.

the yankees tend to go after the flashier,big dollar guys.

the yankees seem to be stuck in the middle but getting better.

i like the way the farm system is going.we have a lot of pitching & an absolute great bullpen with tons of debth.

if we can just get a few solid pitchers & upgrade cf as far as obp i think we are fine.

my ideas of changing this team will be critisized heavily by most but i would trade cano & kennedy for kemp or another decent obp cf,sign furcal for 2nd base,trade damon,matsui,sign cc,tex & another pitcher.

we seriously upgrade defence,fb,obp,pitching,cf & have a payroll of 185 million or so.

right now signing cc & another pitcgher has payroll at 183 million.

we can have the same payroll with a lineup of

furcal(2nd base)
jeter(ss)
tex(1st base)
arod(3rd base)
nady(rf)
swisher(lf)
posada(catcher,dh)
kemp or another cf.(cf)
dh(miranda,posada)

rotation

cc
wang
sheets
joba
hughes,etc….

Good points. What would you do, given that CC has had the 140mm offer for a month?

What are the Yankees, in a collective sense, saying? Obviously, pitching, starting with CC is the the number one priority. Unless and until we have visibility with CC, we cannot address, with any sense of finality our hitting needs which we do have. Scottie, don’t do any thing with Manny now (as if you could) we will be there if we don’t do a deal with you for Tex which we can’t do if we get CC, who, by the way, is holding us hostage.

On the other hand, Boston ownership says nothing. More importantly, Theo does likewise. Does Boston want Tex? Do we really know? We they be players? The press speculates with Tex having many in his corner, but those statements from Tony Mass and others are their own opinions…no “unnamed sources” from the Sawx here. Does Boston want Burnett or Lowe? Who knows. However, there is one guy we know they don’t want, and in that respect, nothing need be said.

One thing is apparent, however, there is definitely a front office/ownership disparity between the two perennial competitors, and we are on the short end..