Everybody loves those Yankee prospects
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Dec 11, 2008 
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RHP Ivan Nova just went in the second round of the Rule 5 to the Padres.
UPDATE, 12:21 p.m.: Let’s see. Kroenke is a lefty reliever who was 7-0 with a 2.85 ERA in 41 appearances, all but four of them with AA Trenton.
Jones is a right-handed starter who was 13-8, 3.26 in AA. Nova is a right-handed starter who was 8-13, 4.36 for Class A Tampa.
That Brian Cashman is a genius. The Yankees just made $200,000. That’s a lot of cigarettes for Hank Steinbrenner.
Those more familiar with these prospects than I am can better judge these players and whether the Yankees should have protected them. But you should assume that the Yankees know their prospects better than anybody else and know what they’re doing.
It’s a testament to how much their farm system has improved that the Yankees would have four players selected.
no Horne or Cox?
Pete it’d be easier if you just update the first post..
Anyways it sucks losing Jones and Nova. Nova had some potential and Jones had a breakout season last year.
This is good news, we didn’t lose Al Horne. Also, they have to stick on the roster the whole season…Jason Jones has had very limited experience above AA…you really think he’ll stick?
Jones and Nova would have never seen ML with Yanks.
Not a big loss.
I’ve never heard of Ivan Nova. We might be issuing a few $25,000 refunds.
GB7
If you are still there, please evaluate what has been pilfered along with your opinion of who might be offered back. Thanks.
We got killed in the Rule 5.
I hope Reggie Corona will do good with the Mariners.
Jason Jones is a childhood friend of one of my co-workers. I told him the big league potential that Jason has now. He was pretty stoked on it and will probably call Jason’s brother tonight.
“Pete it’d be easier if you just update the first post..”
Sure it would. But adding additional posts helps tremendously when Google crawls the website, which helps this website rank higher in search engines, which increases hits to this website, which indirectly leads to more people clicking on the google ads, which leads to more money for whomever owns this blog.
We hardly got killed. To keep these players, these teams have to keep them on the 25 man roster all season. You’re not going to keep a A starter on your 25 man roster all season! We’re going to most likely get a few of these guys back anyway. If these guys were good enough to play in the major leagues and contribute, don’t you think they would have been protected?
Did the Yanks select any players so far?
They aren’t big losses. Those guys are career organizational-type arms and nothing more.
None of those guys have significant upside.
CB, GB, myself and others have said the Yankees were going to lose some guys this year due to the glut of players who were Rule 5 eligible.
Seems to me they protected the higher ceiling guys, exposed the organizational and injured arms, and were prepared to lose some those players.
Mel,
Ivan Nova is hasn’t played above Tampa hand has three really good pitches.
“Jones and Nova would have never seen ML with Yanks.
Not a big loss.”
Way too early to say that. Jones has never been anything special but he had a great year in AA this year. He could easily become a middle reliever. Nova has more potential than Jones. He had a few great games but overall he had a lackluster season. A lot of people like Nova though, he could stick in the majors.
Conspiracy to screw the Yankees? If all those guys reamin on other teams 40 man rosters all year, those teams are in much worse shape than I thought.
For better or worse, it’s also a testament to the Yankees handing out major league contracts that force people on the 40 man roster (Andrew Brackman) who don’t need to be and other poor signings (Kei Igawa).
For better or worse, it’s also a testament to the Yankees handing out major league contracts that force people on the 40 man roster (Andrew Brackman) who don’t need to be and other people sitting on the 40-man roster as dead weight (Kei Igawa).
We have an excellent farm system, this proves it. The bad part is we lost some good players here
We didn’t get “killed” in the draft.
Check out Chad Jennings blog for info on each of the rule V draftees.
These were all guys unprotected for a reason. They were either blocked or non-prospects.
“other poor signings (Kei Igawa).”
Kei Igawa isn’t on the 40 man roster anymore.
Kept Whelan, Horne and Cox. Excellent
Igawa is not on the 40-man roster
Rosental reporting Cameron talks have hit a snag.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....038;ATT=49
“Tex now leaning towards NYY”
Link?
Overall these guys are non-prospects, losing them isn’t a big deal at all. Still it stinks to lose some pitching depth.
Phil,
Thanks.
I don’t think there’s anything to lament at all. We can’t keep all the guys we draft.
We got rid of Clippard, DeSalvo, and others who would never stick with the Yankees.
There might come a time when we start losing players that’ll really hurt but these aren’t even AAA players so they weren’t even close to helping us.
The Delarosas, Melancons, Cokes. Those are the guys that will help us.
Brewers are doing us a huge favor. Please shut us out of Cameron. No CF trades means Gardner and we add a FA bat.
I don’t think Igawa is on the 40-man roster anymore.
We have been getting him by imposters all day today.
Ray, miggs, GB, myself, I’m sure a few others have gotten hit so far today.
Probably the same person doing it all.
“Rosental reporting Cameron talks have hit a snag.”
The Brewers are just being greedy in my opinion. They want the Yankees to pay all of Cameron’s salary and give them two players?
Mel,
Nova had a future with us and I hope he gets returned.
never been big on Cox (no pun)
however, am shocked he wasn’t selected. The same for Whelan, who i still believe may pan out.
if any of these players become superstars, the yankees will just sign them when they are free agents.
“Way too early to say that. Jones has never been anything special but he had a great year in AA this year. He could easily become a middle reliever. Nova has more potential than Jones. He had a few great games but overall he had a lackluster season. A lot of people like Nova though, he could stick in the majors.”
The emphasis is “with Yanks”, not with other clubs. How many middle relievers Jones has to overtake before he is considered for Yanks? Many.
WHAT? nobody took Igawa? ahh bummer!
Yanks passed.
Yanks can’t pick anyone up – their 40 is already full.
Igawa was last seen wearing a sandwich board wandering the streets of Vegas: “Free – take me”
I like how these small-market teams try to hit the Yankees up, when they’re in the check-out line.
in light of the contracts we’re handing out, i completely understand.
the Yanks should had taken a chance on jason Allison. He could had been Josh Hamiliton comeback, pitching wise.
I like how these small-market teams try to hit the Yankees up, when they’re already in the check-out line.
in light of the contracts we’re handing out, i completely understand
Did i just hear correctly that the Red SOx have offered Varitek a 2 year deal?? Allegedly it was reported in the Boston Herald. I am listening to xm175 and they quoted it. Can this really be true??
We lost Josue Selenes.
Didn’t see all the new threads…
“Yanks excess pitching took a hit, but not expected. The only one that hurt was Kroenke.”
Agreed GB7. 3 players got picked but on the whole they did well.
The organization guessed right in not protecting Horne, Whelan or Cox. Now it’s an enormous advantage to not have those guys on the 40 man roster. They won’t be forced to dfa one of them if they need room on the 40 man.
That’ll be particularly helpful to horne and cox as they recover from injury.
I can’t see Nova sticking in the bigs with the padres.
Kroenke could stick with Marlins as a Loogy. Jones – who knows. I can’t see him beating out the twins pitching but perhaps as a long man?
It’s very interesting that 3 organizations focused on player development (the new Mariner’s gm is very good with prospect talent) were the ones to take yankee guys.
“Yanks can’t pick anyone up – their 40 is already full.”
true true…
The Yankees don’t have the space or flexibility to expend on Rule V projects.
There’ll be lots of fishing in other team’s barrels this year and for a few years to come. To quote the first Bill Clinton Campaign: “It’s the economy, stupid.” Everybody loves those Yankee prospects? Maybe. Or maybe it’s just wishful thinking by cash strapped GMs.
Not that Vince Gennaro doesn’t already have enough to do that he gets paid to do, but I’d like to see (for free of course) predictive modeling of what’s most likely to change in how MLB teams operate in the recession and recovery, and what teams and markets will be hit hardest. What feelings about the game might need to change from what we all thought even 6 months ago?
For example:
1) Are the Rays in good shape just because everybody is young and cost controlled? Aren’t the Rays vulnerable because their market is small and vulnerable? Will the Rays make enough from playoff appoearances over the next few years to avoid having to auction off some of their young talent?
2) Is the Yankee cash position, with the new stadium and YES dollars and expired bad contracts, even more powerful than originally thought? How does this cash advantage play out over the next few years of recession and recovery?
Rosental reporting Cameron talks have hit a snag.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....038;ATT=49
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Fine, use that money to buy Tex and or Manny and live with melk/Gard in CF
ok. Predicting it right now:
If NYY does not sign Manny (and i don’t expect them to) the Yankees and Oakland will complete a trade for Matt Holliday in July. Why? The offense will be lagging and Holldiay will be viewed as the ‘championship piece’
also, Billy Beane will be coveting the pitching prospects NYY have compiled, yet suddenly have no place to put them.
type it in stone.
“Fine, use that money to buy Tex and or Manny and live with melk/Gard in CF”
…or Adam Dunn.
stone? more like swiss cheese, crazy ideas abounds
Apparently there’s a AAA & AA phase of the draft.
Can we participate in those rounds?
I always feel bad for the players who get cuaght in public trade talk. Melky woke up this morning thinking “Where’s Milwaukee”?
I cant believe Cashman lied to us.
Bubba/Gardner is our center fielder?
Yeah right. He supposidly reads this blog. Cash we all deserve a written appology.
SJ,
I didnt see anyone answer the question on why did we have to give C.C. the extra year if we were way above anyone else on a 6 year deal? Head scratcher.
Also. When both healthy, who has the better stuff? Burnett or Sheets? Anyone?
I don’t mind them lining up for money when the Yankees have to pay it out.
I can’t stand when teams complain about the Yankees spending THEIR OWN MONEY on players.
If you don’t like it, don’t take the checks when the Yankees have to contribute to the pool.
If the Yankees ever went the “Marlins route” and just cleared the decks of payroll, a third of the teams in MLB would be on the brink of going under.
They should just shut up and be happy the Yankees are spending money.
After all, it is THEIR MONEY.
Gayle,
I would venture a guess to say the Red Sox are offering Varitek a 2 year deal for a couple of reason:
1. They need a catcher.
2. He is one of Tex’s closest friends in the game.
I think they want to show Tex they are “showing the love” for Varitek since, the Red Sox have a reputation for discarding their players when they feel they have gotten everything they could get out of them.
The Yankees have felt all along that the Red Sox would get Tex.
Its going to be interesting to see if Arte Moreno steps up and blows the competition out of the water to keep him.
If they lose Tex, that Kotchman will turn out to be a big mistake for the Angels.
Man I hope this Cameron trade goes through. He would really help the team.
Looks like Pete in monitoring the website right now. I just saw a post from an imposter SJ44 get deleted.
“…or Adam Dunn”
you just want to hit tape-measure shots in MLB 09
: )
word is brewers want an arm w/ melky, talk is edwar?
To the guy pretending to be other people (SJ44, Jay Destro, etc.):
Stop being an idiot. Last warning or you’re out.
I read that the Sox are close to getting Tex. What the hell do they do with Lowell? I hope that we at least drive up the price to 10/200 by the time its done.
“Can we participate in those rounds?”
Yes but we have roster issues up and down the minors so I don’t know who aggressively they’ll take guys as it might get down to cutting guys on the current rosters.
Vinny,
LOL HAHHHAHAS, yes!!!
you know me too well.
ok class is ending, be back later.
Why would we ever trade melky for cameron. I get melky sucks, yea, he had a awful year, but he gets paid under a million and is good defensively. We traded a cheap, young, good defensive CF, for an expensivem old, good defensive CF. Cameron is awful offensively as well
joltin joe,
We’ve talked here before about clearing space in the bullpen. Edwar would be my first move. Followed by Veras. Albaladejo is having a great winter. He has a great chance to move back into the bullpen.
SJ–
Did you h ear this AM that the Marlins owner went off on the Yankees and what they did in terms of spending money on the Sabathia. I heard it on ESPN this am. I guess he was on the Dan Lebetard show this AM and just railled against t he Yankees. AMazing how when a team has money and spends it on the team rather than it going to the owners pocket it is a Yankee problem.
On Varitek. I guess that makes sense as I said in the last thread it suprises me that the Angels have yet to even make an offer on Tex.. For a player that the owner said was the #1 priority you would think they would have made an offer already unless Boras said to him we will get all the offers and give you last licks so it made no sense too make an offer to drive up the price??
we have plenty in the pen…figure we need 12…someone will have to go down among Coke. Giese, Albaladejo etc..
Last warning ? What a joke ! You are going to kick me out ? Kick me out of what ?
it would have been more entertaining if bill parcells was impersonating me, but hey you know… flattery.
I agree that all who are not me should be OUT !
December 11th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
GB7
If you are still there, please evaluate what has been pilfered along with your opinion of who might be offered back. Thanks.
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I think that the only big name loss was Kroenke. Corona would have been a fair emergency fallback.
Pete is Cash walking around with a sign that says Igawa free to a good or bad home?
Phil
December 11th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
We got killed in the Rule 5.
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It wasn’t as bad as it could have been.
evan….cc wants his buddy cameron and he still has some pop in his bat, better OF than melky
Cameron/Hall 4 Cabrera/Kennedy…..fair?
Phil Parcells
have fun trolling another site.
Registration, Pete, registration.
For those interested all of the picks that I had were back just before PA had the Corona picked thread.
gianthiker.
Money becomes an issue. They take on less than a million, when we take on 15 or more. Is that fair?
Cameron/Hall 4 Cabrera/Kennedy…..fair?
Not fair in my opinion. That’s too much money for the Yankees to pay and Kennedy is too good to give up for that little.
parcells – he’ll ban your IP address you effing idiot.
Pass on Cameron if the Brewers want more than Melky.
Does anyone have a link which shows all the Rule 5 draftees that have been chosen? Will the Yankees be taking anyone?
wow no one claimed mike mcdougal what the hell.
scuse me MACdougal
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/minorleagues/rule_5.jsp
Also with Tampa now picking up Matt Joyce and the Mets picking up the OF in the trade last night does that take then out of the Abreu sweepstakes?? If thats the case the teams left for him seem to be dropping like flies/
SOS,
I’m not friendly with Sabathia’s agents. I don’t know the inner workings of how the whole thing went down.
I do know the Yankees have targeted him for a year. They knew all of his concerns about playing/living in NY, were prepared to address them and do whatever it took to sign him.
They also felt unanimously that if they got him, they are a MUCH better team than going without him and trying to fix the pitching staff in other ways.
They were were blown away by his character reports. Guys all around game rave about CC. They also know that if what he did last year in Milwaukee was ever done in NY, he would have Willis Reed-like reverance from the fan base.
I believe they got word of the Brewers going to 6 years/125 on their offer. Knowing that offer also included a buyout, my guess is, they wanted to make him an offer so good that he couldn’t turn it down prior to their leaving Las Vegas.
In essence, its a 3 year deal. If you look at what the Yankees are doing, aside from Arod, Cano and AJ (if he indeed signs with the Yankees), most of the contracts on the team are up by 2012.
It looks like they are putting it all on the line for the next 3 years and see how it pans out.
They are keeping their front end prospects, and not rushing them to the majors, and will look to win as much as they can in the 3 years they know Sabathia will be here.
I don’t think they will sign Tex.
However, given how they seems to be re-structuring things on the fly, it wouldn’t shock me if they made a run at Manny (if he is still on the market) after they address all their pitching needs.
I would have never thought that to be the case prior to the economy crashing.
But, if the Red Sox sign Tex, and all Manny has going for him are the Angels and Yankees, I could see the Yankees putting a 2 or 3 year offer on the table, even though they will deny it to the Gods.
If they went long term on Tex, that would surprise me. Short term on Manny? At this point, that wouldn’t be a shocker to me.
“Cameron/Hall 4 Cabrera/Kennedy…..fair?”
I wouldn’t do it either. And i don’t like Kennedy.
CC is already here. For all i care, Gardner can hold down CF in 2009.
GB7
It was a volume thing. Though I don’t like losing Kroenke, Reegie or Nova, especially.
The 12:44pm post was not me.
“Did i just hear correctly that the Red SOx have offered Varitek a 2 year deal??”
Two thoughts:
1) As SJ points out, it may help in the Teixeira thing
2) I can see them still pursuing a young catcher and keeping Varitek around to play a role like Girardi did with POsada in the mid-late 90′s. Maybe a 300 or so AB guy who continues to play a role in staff preparation but also help groom the new guy.
the most overpaid pitcher in the Majors now.
Good Job Yankees.
heres to hoping burnett signs that contract offer.
then you can have another overpaid player.
haha sabathia took you fools hook, line and sinker.
no one could even offer anything close to what the yankees did. and then they throw in another year another $20mil.
stupid, foolish management.
yanks are a joke.
even getting CC doesnt improve them
17-19 wins.
lost moose, lost andy(so far)
haha. losers
I think after each round the Yanks can protect one more player?
Maybe why Cox, Horne, Whelen did not get selected as well.
Joe Monte
December 11th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Did the Yanks select any players so far?
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No, NYY didn’t make a pick in any phase. NYY system is loaded with young pitchers and the position players will mainly be in High and Low A ball.
Don’t know if it’s accurate but the LA Times is reporting the cameron deal is done.
They said it’s Cameron for melky and a pitching prospect.
No idea if this is correct. It’s timed after the Rosenthal report that said the deal hit a snag.
Perhaps this reporter was assuming the prior reports had the deal completed?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.co.....ns-in.html
While I’m not jumping for joy over Cameron, I would be concerned if it were Gardner in CF for all of 09. I remember my anger every time Melky came up to bat and was an instant out. Usually on one or two pitches. Gardner probably would not be any better and any upgrade over Gardner/Melky would be welcome IMO.
Well which is it?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12.....143713.htm
Mel
If we carry 12 players that leaves 13 pitchers, 5 starters, 8 in the pen. figure albadelejo, robertson, aceves or geiss will be odd man out.
“Counting Cash Sabathia”
Oh, Francessa… you sly devil, you!
“Mike Cameron Yankees Deal Unlikely?
Tom Haudricourt says the Yankees tried to unload Kei Igawa on them.”
I am starting to really love Cashman.
kei igawa is the snag in the cameron deal.
no one wants igawa.. except the yankees.
who thought they pulled a quick one on the sox after they signed him.
fire our scouts..
“Cameron/Hall 4 Cabrera/Kennedy…..fair?”
No.No.No. If they want a pitcher as well as Melky,we have the perfect candidate for them. Britton. He would save us money on all the bus fairs we spend on him. So it would be a salary dump for salary dump.
That makes sense SJ. If the Brewers were going to up the offer then it was a no brainer. Sheets or Burnett? Whos better when healthy?
The stalling on the Cameron deal was probably just till the major league portion of the Rule V was done.
Cameron would be a mistake. There’s not much left in his tank, and even $10 million is too costly for what he produces. Don’t we have enough players already who are on the downside of their careers? At least trade Melky for someone young. I’d rather have a couple of medium propects from AA.
Phil
December 11th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
GB7
It was a volume thing. Though I don’t like losing Kroenke, Reegie or Nova, especially.
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Nova’s young, but, from what I saw of him in 2007, he was nothing special. Maybe someday, he’ll get a cup of coffee, but, nothing to sweat over. Jones may or may not stick. Corona could have been a Alfredo Gozalez emergency callup for Jeter, but, he’s young. Maybe a Alex Cora type in a couple of years. Kroenke hurts most of all.
What is the best site to use to catch up on movements as they happen? I am not a big fan of MLB traderumours, any others anyone recommends?
Thanks
PER MLBTR on Cameron trade:
11:49am: Joel Sherman talked to a top exec involved in the talks who called the chances of a deal “remote.”
new post up – Cashman off recruiting AJ??
Sherman now says the Melky/Cameron thing is unlikely.
Counting Cash Sabathia– The Yanks didn’t need to add 17-19 wins. They were behind the Sox by 6 games for the wildcard. Sabathia adds 6 wins to the team and they’re in the playoffs. You get a 2 out of a potential 10 because you found a way to say that signing a top 5 pitcher in baseball is a bad thing. You got the 2 points because “Counting Cash” is an alliteration, and I like those.
right now we have a 3 man bench of ransom?, molina and gardner…we need a backup 1b.
If Sheets is healthy, he’s better. The reports are mixed though as to how healthy Sheets really is.
Pat M and I have been in love with AJ all year. I know him from his time in Florida and he is a bit crazy, no doubt about that.
But man, the guy has the kind of electric stuff that just grabs you.
Even though the Yankees are offering #1 starter money, its clear they aren’t looking to him as their ace.
I’m hoping that makes him come because CC, more than AJ, will have the bullseye on him from the fans and media.
That could make him relaxed enough to put together the kind of season he did this past year in Toronto.
He’s good friends with Bruney and Damon and I’m hoping the recruiting pitch the Yankee players and management has given him works in the end.
“Cameron could make the transition to New York easier for CC Sabathia… Cameron played with the Mets from 2004-2005, so he knows the city.”
Yeah, not too many of the current Yankees know the city very well. Maybe Cameron can help them too.
Nova throws hard but obviously is still very raw. He has some upside. Hard to imagine he will last the year in a major league pen.
I’ve read Corona can perhaps be a MLB 2b and is pretty close to being ready. Saw him play at Trenton last year and he is certainly a good defender. He was ticked to start 2b at AAA it seems. He would have been our in house insurance in case cano starts out hitting .200 again in April and they wanted to shake him up a bit.
I see the nation is nervous in getting a 7 year dose of C.C..
We have a backup at 1B Miranda… also Ransom plays first
“If the Yankees ever went the “Marlins route” and just cleared the decks of payroll, a third of the teams in MLB would be on the brink of going under.”
i have often said i would love to see this happen if for no other reason than forcing the league to revisit the revenue sharing and luxury tax rules. the yankees should at all times have legal council working on challenging those rules if for no other reason than making sure that they don’t erode further.
Correction: ***Corona could have been a Alberto Gonzalez emergency callup***
“I’m hoping that makes him come because CC, more than AJ, will have the bullseye on him from the fans and media.”
Good point. Does AJ really want to go to Atlanta and shoulder the burden of carrying the entire rotation in terms of pitching?
Atlanta’s not spending 80M without huge expectations. He’ll have to be a #1 down there.
The glare in NY will be loud but he’ll be shadowed by all of the other bright lights – CC in particular.
That said – 5 years for AJ at 85M? I’m not sure when the franchise took that big a gamble on potential. I guess Igawa sort of counts in that in a weird way. But if this goes bad… 85M is a lot even for the yanks.
And unlike the Pavano deal I don’t know if they are going to be able to insure the deal or how expensive it’ll be to do so.
if you fans havent figured it out.
players perform big in contract years.
the main goal for an athlete in baseball is to win a championship. then they want to get paid.
its funny how sheets, and burnett were relatively healthy this season compared to past seasons.
interesting how CC sucked soo bad to start the season. goes to the NL. dominates and now gets paid.
The yankees dont even sign “The best players” they dont have the scouts to know who the best is. they just overpay for the biggest names in the market. who are coming off career years, or some type of dominant run
last year you could of had santana for a mix of kennedy, hughes, melky, cano, tabata..
now kennedy, taba are gone. melky sucks. hughes is injury prone and you want to trade melky.
ontop of that. you are stuck with fat a$$ CC for 7 years.
he is going to suck in your division.
S.o.S
the nation could care less about 7 years of CC
why you ask?
i think there lineup will destroy CC
plus they will land Tex.
now what?
beckett wins in the post season.
sabathia does not..
“its funny how sheets, and burnett were relatively healthy this season compared to past seasons.”
Sheets had injury problems this year
“now kennedy, taba are gone.”
where did kennedy go? Probably should get your facts straight
“ontop of that. you are stuck with fat a$$ CC for 7 years.”
We would have needed to sign Santan for the same amount, plus given up prospects. Also since when does weight stop baseball players from being effective?
What do Yanks do for utility infielders? Corona not much perhaps, but he was at least on the horizon with some promise. Yankees must return to concept of ace defender/contact hitter as utility man. No Betemit. No Bill Hall. Pray that DJ never goes down.
Beckett had an 8.79 ERA in 3 starts last post-season.
“i think there lineup will destroy CC”
Just a huntch right? How well did they do when he won Cy Young in 2007? Also they are going after Tex because they have holes in that lineup. Ortiz is a empty shell of his former self, Lowell is never going to repeat his 2007 season, if he makes it back onto the field for long enough, they no longer have Manny, and who knows what Nacy Drew is going to give you on a year to year basis. Also they will probably have Varitek hitting .180 from the C position.
“the main goal for an athlete in baseball is to win a championship. then they want to get paid.”
then why don’t a lot of good players take less money and go to a specific team to win a championship keeping down that team’s payroll? they could easily do it.
no, getting paid comes first. wanting championships may not even be second for most players. doing well personally probably comes ahead of wanting to win a championship. having the kind of drive to win as a team that a player like jeter has is not the norm, but it would be good to look for this drive in picking free agents to sign or players to trade for.
As much as people do not want to admit Santana is starting to show his decline. Granted he won his fair share of games but look deeper into his numbers and you will see he is not lights out like he once was. Still a great pitcher currently but come back in 3 years and see how that contract might look. Besides Santana did not put the Mets over the top or even in the playoffs for that matter. Glad the Yanks held onto Hughes and company as you never know what they could turn into. Patience will pay off.
2007 stats. C.C against Boston
1.29 ERA
.192 BAA
nuff said
Btw Pete, rotoworld says that Twins resigned Punto
Just sayin…
CC at Yankee stadium: career 7+ era
CC in the playoffs: career 8+ era
Yes, I am worried the Sox lineup will trash him.
Hopefully this is jsut because its a small sample size.
He has not, by a long shot, proven himself in the clutch.
Brian
December 11th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Just sayin…
CC at Yankee stadium: career 7+ era
CC in the playoffs: career 8+ era
Yes, I am worried the Sox lineup will trash him.
Hopefully this is jsut because its a small sample size.
He has not, by a long shot, proven himself in the clutch.
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CC has a high ERA against the Yankees in general thus the high ERA in stadium.
Against the Sox he is much better. The sox will have no Manny in line up this year and papi is on the big downside.