A few other transactions of note
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Dec 12, 2008 
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Nice day for the Robertson family of Birmingham, Ala. The Mets traded Scott Schoeneweis to Arizona for Connor Robertson. He’s the older brother of Yankees prospect Dave Robertson. If they both make the team, they can share an apartment in Manhattan.
Meanwhile, Scott Proctor was non-tendered by the Dodgers. His elbow, now living in seclusion in Temecula, could not be reached for comment.
Wilson Betemit got $1.3 million from the White Sox, ensuring their doom.
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Made these bets today:
UConn at 12-1 for the NCAA title (to have something to root for)
Michigan at 80-1 to win the NCAA title (John Beilein can really coach)
Indians at 22-1 to win the Series (just for kicks)
Braves at 22-1 to win the NL pennant (the Rays of 2009?)
USC -10 in the Rose Bowl (just to win something)
Oklahoma +3 in the BCS final (seems easy)
Panthers 10-1 to win the Super Bowl (best long shot)
It’s a good thing I don’t live here. I’d take up residence at the sports book and bet college hoop games all day. The Yankees went to 6-1 for the Series after getting Sabathia, by the way. Wonder if Burnett will drop it more?
Good luck with your bets, and I agree, Beilein can really coach, both O and D. It’s a shame there aren’t more college hoops games on tonight.
You’re going to be losing that money on USC. Someone will finally teach those thugs a lesson. Let’s Go State.
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That Rose Bowl bet will hurt ya Pete.
Speaking of other non-tenders. Willy Taveras was non-tendered. If Yanks decided not to go the Cameron route we could have a pretty nice Gardner-Taveras platoon that would bring some solid D and a heck of a lot of speed. It’d give us some flexibility in the OF and always allow to have an excellent pinch runner on the bench-Dave Robertson style.
The yanks were tied to him before…
Pete, Just want to thank you for all the great coverage. Your blog is the best place for up to the minute NYY info. You make the winter a lot shorter. Keep up the good work. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Where can i see these vegas odds? anywhere online ?
Does anyone else think we should resign the Proctologst?
Doctor Proctor should take Ned Coletti out for non-tendering him and getting him some immediate relief from Torre’s abuse hahahahah
Pete,
As a huge Yanks fan, I appreciate all the constant updates that you give us. The site is great!!!
I feel I should give something back. I feel this is appropriate after reading after reading your latest entry. Best of luck.
http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/
Looks like Wigginton has been non-tendered. He should definitely be a target for the Yankees.
Willy Taveras is a bad baseball player.
Just don’t bet on the Jets.
Ever.
And I say that as an optimist.
I wouldn’t mind bringing Proctor to ST to compete for a spot in the pen
He was very solid for us and with Girardi managing him, he would be effective.
Saito, the former Dodgers closer, would be a great guy to add for depth.
say A.J and CC pass there physicals when can we expect the press confrence,monday, tuesday?
Dude….Ty Wigginton was non tendered!!!
Git er done Cash!
“Looks like Wigginton has been non-tendered. He should definitely be a target for the Yankees.”
and so will the Giants, Twins, and maybe the Phillies. they will offer him a full time job. He would rather take that than riding the bench.
vtred
December 12th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Saito, the former Dodgers closer, would be a great guy to add for depth.
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The Dodgers cut him for a reason, He hasn;t been able to comb his hair in a year and a half and he’s 39 years old besides owing him 3 mil a year.
Why on earth the Astros would non tender him, I don’t know. Ed Wade is an unimaginable moron. Here’s hoping his loss is our gain.
2 things from the Crasnick article on espn.com
I didn’t realize that AJ had the first opt-out ever for a pitcher. Besides CC, do you guys know of any other pitchers who have one?
Also, AJ’s record against the AL East is very nice:
“Burnett also has a strong track record within the American League East. He’s 20-5 with a 3.29 ERA against New York’s divisional opponents in Tampa Bay, Boston, Baltimore and Toronto.”
Ty isn’t in CC’s fave 5?
Pete, I hope your U$C bet was for as much as the rest combined. That was you can start off 2009 with a win and anything else would just be gravy.
Ed will be disappointed. The Cubs signed Gaudin.
I am not sure I want to know what Ed Wade has been smoking…
gah, in my initial bout of excitement (I was gettin Wiggy wit it…ahahaha sorry) I forgot Ty could get a full time job elsewhere.
I don’t see a full time spot for him on the Phillies though unless you count the temporary hole left by Utley’s injury. So maybe he would opt for the generous (can we still afford to be generous?) contract offer and chance to win rather than the everyday gig with a team that isnt really going anywhere?
It’s at least worth a very valiant effort, I know it sounds strange to say a player like Ty Wigginton would put us over the top, but he would be very very helpful to this team, we are one solid and versatile player away from having a very good lineup to go along with our great pitching staff.
Maybe if Reggie Jackson visits him…
BBB
December 12th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Why on earth the Astros would non tender him, I don’t know. Ed Wade is an unimaginable moron. Here’s hoping his loss is our gain.
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More money than they can afford to pay a utility player. Nobody would trade for him, figuring that this would happen.
A friend of mine (a lowly White Sox fan) had heard that the MIL deal was stalling and he asked me why. I told him that the Yankees wanted MIL to eat some of Cameron’s salary. He burst out laughing. He said “How can you ask MIL to eat salary after you just signed a guy for $160mil? You Yankees have got a lot of nerve.”
It was at this point that I took out my gun and shot him.
Well, not really, but the evil part of me was thinking about it.
im kinda embaressed wen ya say taveras is a real bad player cuz hes ma second cuzin
Thanks, Laura. One less “fan” with which to deal.
You know what, if the Milwaukee Brewers cop an attitude because we got CC, let them pay Cameron the whole $10 million. Like they were ever going to keep CC anyway. Sorry, Brew Crew, this is hardball.
Can they keep Igawa, too? j/k
If NYY is looking for cheap FA utility type infielders, Aarom Miles and Alex Cora are the best bets. They can at least play short stop with some ability. Miles can also pitch. 3 games. 3 innings.
*Before baseball’s winter meetings started here Monday, the Yankees had 6-1 odds to win the title, while the Chicago Cubs and the Boston Red Sox were at 5-1. As the meetings ended Thursday, the Yankees were a 3-1 choice. The odds for the Red Sox and the Cubs did not change.
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“Nick in SF
December 12th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
You know what, if the Milwaukee Brewers cop an attitude because we got CC, let them pay Cameron the whole $10 million. Like they were ever going to keep CC anyway. Sorry, Brew Crew, this is hardball.”
Damn right! I’m still mad that they cried about how we were “bad for baseball” because we bid money on CC that showed we really wanted him rather than just adding $1MM to their paltry figure and presenting an offer of $101. If anything, they owe us one, because our mega bid allowed them to make their BS concession to their fan base sound plausible. Imagine if no one else had made an offer and they were on the hook for 6/100?!
Screw em, we’re coming for their center fielder and their cheese and bratwurst!
Yes, if the trade collapses, they can have Igawa, just to show that there are no hard feelings. Although the Braves might need Igawa now that they lost out on AJ. He would fit right in down there, he has Jimmy Carter’s teeth!
Peter, you think the sports book in Vegas is fun during the week, stick around during the day Sunday watching the NFL games, it is a blast.
December 12th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
*Before baseball’s winter meetings started here Monday, the Yankees had 6-1 odds to win the title, while the Chicago Cubs and the Boston Red Sox were at 5-1. As the meetings ended Thursday, the Yankees were a 3-1 choice. The odds for the Red Sox and the Cubs did not change.
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....favorites/
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Once the Yankees sign Teixeira, Ramirez, Pettitte, Sheets, Lowe, and trade Melky Cabrera to LA Dodgers for Kemp and Kershaw, the odds may shift a little more in the Yankees favor.
mel,
I know this must be a great night for you— you advocated Burnett for a long time
Wow, that is a great bet on UConn with those odds. Good job Pete. You will lose you BCS title bet though.
“the Red Sox made a three-year, $21MM offer to pitcher Kenshin Kawakami.”
per Mlbtr.
Daniel Cabrera non-tendered. I know the O’s were trying to trade him but I guess everyone knew that they could just have him as a FA so why give Baltimore anything? GB7, I’m sure you are right that that was the issue with Wade, Wigg., and the Stros too, but it’s just so easy and fun to mock him anyway.
Anywho, great news about Cabrera. Provided he ends up anywhere but the East, that’s now two Yankee Killers wiped off the list of Pitchers We Must Face Next Year in the span of one day!
I’d love for the Yanks to sign Wigginton, but as a free-agent hes prolly looking for some playing time. Yanks wouldnt be the best place to find that. If he hit better against rights then maybe they could work him into some super-utility role, dispelling cano, a-rod and swisher every now and then.
There are a lot of options for bats out there. Gomes would be an excellent power-bat off the bench but it seems like we have too many sluggish corner-OF’s. I really wish we could trade Matsui and replace him with Adam Dunn. Heck I’d even trade Damon while his value is high off of his performance last season. That would give us more flexibility and could allow for some Dunn(gomes), Wigginton, Swisher, and Damon quadrangle of love at LF, DH, and 1B. Girardi would have making those lineups.
“Wow, that is a great bet on UConn with those odds”
I guess you have not seen Carolina play this year.
Trisha:
Proctor had elbow surgery, which is why he wasn’t tendered. It has nothing to do with Torre’s “sway.”
But don’t let that interfere with your irrational logic.
“Anywho, great news about Cabrera. Provided he ends up anywhere but the East, that’s now two Yankee Killers wiped off the list of Pitchers We Must Face Next Year in the span of one day!”
This has certainly been our off season. I wouldn’t count out Cabrera yet. He’s got some wildness issues, but is supposedly very talented. Someone will surely take a flier out on him.
BBB
December 12th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Daniel Cabrera non-tendered. I know the O’s were trying to trade him but I guess everyone knew that they could just have him as a FA so why give Baltimore anything? GB7, I’m sure you are right that that was the issue with Wade, Wigg., and the Stros too, but it’s just so easy and fun to mock him anyway.
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Cabrera would be perfect for Texas. Nolan Ryan was in his 30s when he figured out the control issues and he fixed Randy Johnson’s in two visits. Ryan is the president of the Rangers. Cabrera has a world of talent.
“Proctor had elbow surgery, which is why he wasn’t tendered. It has nothing to do with Torre’s “sway.””
And why did he need elbow surgery? It couldn’t have been all of those innings he pitched under Torre. No, I’m sure the two events are totally unrelated.
I hate to break Pete’s heart but Florida will beat OU in the BCS championship.
OU has not played a good defense this year and wait till Bradford actually has to move.
That elbow is plenty tender, though.
Laura – With this pitching staff, how can we lose?
December 12th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
“Proctor had elbow surgery, which is why he wasn’t tendered. It has nothing to do with Torre’s “sway.””
And why did he need elbow surgery? It couldn’t have been all of those innings he pitched under Torre. No, I’m sure the two events are totally unrelated.
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Check his numbers after he was trded from NYY in 2007. His numbers were the same in NY and LA, and he was healthy when he left.
4×4,
LOL. I just hope that the season has a good ending this year. I will admit, though, that I caught myself smiling for no particular reason when I was running today. I must have looked crazy to passersby.
Re: Proctor. I feel bad for him and wish him the best. He was a good trooper.
Watch Boston counter our ‘addition by addition’ by signing Daniel Cabrera.
I hope Boston doesn’t get Tex. Every time I turn on ESPN that’s all they are talking about is him going to Boston, and blah blah blah.
How can they do that when they have Youk and Lowell?
If you want to hamer Yankee managers for abusing pitchers, look at Casey Stengel, Ralph Houk, Billy Martin and Lou Piniella.
I for one like GB’s suggestion that Nolan Ryan gets himself Cabrera. Seems like the type of high upside guy he needs over there with Texas scoring over 900 runs last year.
hammer
How many Japanese pitchers is that for the Red Sox? 4? I don’t think Tazawa’s ready for primetime, yet. Good to see that Boston’s fighting the anti-Japanese stereotype.
Please bring me back to the Yankees!
Trying to figure out roster spots and what’s open. Does Miranda have a roster spot as back-up 1B? Does wigginton play any 1B?
Mel-
I have a fried who likes Boston and he always complains about how the Yankees just buy everyone they want. Boston has always criticized the Yankees for playing “dirty” and buying all of our players and not giving any other team a chance.
Look at them now.
Yes we got CC and Burnett but we had enough money to do it and will still be under the last years Payroll.
Rob NY — 2009 The Road to Redemption
December 12th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
I for one like GB’s suggestion that Nolan Ryan gets himself Cabrera. Seems like the type of high upside guy he needs over there with Texas scoring over 900 runs last year.
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I’d hate it twice a year, though, if Ryan ever got him straightened out. He’s tough enough as is. It really does make sense, though. LA Dodgers and St. Louis will be all over him, though.
Maybe the Nationals will pick up Cabrera and Tex both. That’s win-win!
I’d like to see a lefty bat added to the bench. Swisher, Nady, and Cameron (if the trade is made) all hit lefties better than righties. Miranda would be a good choice-if he’s deemed ready.
The problem is Cabrera has been a below league average pitcher his entire career. He needs somebody to teach him how to be consistent and not go from good to terrible from start to start. That’s why I think him and Texas would be best for each other.
Burnett for 5 years? What a joke! Now, I can’t figure out whether Cashman is arrogant or just a fool.
What lesson about Jared Wright and Carl Pavano did he not learn?
Five? FIVE! FIVE!! What’s next a 7 year deal for Carl Pavano? An 8-yr deal for Derek Lowe? An 9-year deal for Brad Penny? How about a career services agreement for Manny?
Did AJ Burnett, excluding his Yankees starts, post a 5.00 ERA last year or not? One year for every ERA point? Now, I get it.
I’m so happy the Yankees have a GM as astute as Theo.
How about we sign
Nick in SF
December 12th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Maybe the Nationals will pick up Cabrera and Tex both. That’s win-win!
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Along with Lowe and Sheets.
Ken Rosenthal had some interesting things to say about Burnett.
Let’s hope he’s right because these issues are going to be the key thing in AJ becoming a good signing:
“At one point in his career, Burnett would have not been a good candidate to pitch in New York; he was too emotional, too mercurial.
However, he gained maturity in Toronto, following the example of Blue Jays ace Roy Halladay. The Braves considered his makeup to be superior to that of Derek Lowe, an older, more experienced pitcher. And Burnett has told friends that he is ready for the challenge of pitching in New York.
From a physical standpoint, Burnett is also in a better place. After battling elbow and shoulder problems throughout his career, he seems to have gained a greater awareness of what he needs to do to stay healthy — and what it takes to win games.
One rival pitching coach said of Burnett recently, “His pitching last season was as good as his stuff” — and Burnett’s stuff has always been among the best in the game.”
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....82.5M-deal
Rob NY — 2009 The Road to Redemption
December 12th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
The problem is Cabrera has been a below league average pitcher his entire career. He needs somebody to teach him how to be consistent and not go from good to terrible from start to start. That’s why I think him and Texas would be best for each other
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As I mentioned, Texas and St. Louis has Dave Duncan as a pitching coach.
Please let Sheets get that # 4 spot
CC
Wang
AJ
Sheets
Joba
Tebow,
On the CC thread the other day, I said that I don’t care anymore what others think. We’re the Yankees, darnit, and we can do what we want. We’re always damned if we do and damned if we don’t.
Of course I don’t live in Boston. They buy they players, too. They just don’t show them the kind of love the Yankees do.
Tarheel,
We have 7 holes:
SP-Andy Pettitte?
RP-Albadalejo replaces Edwar
RP-Aceves (long relief)
OF-Cameron?
OF-Gardner?
IF-Ransom
IF-?
And if Melancon is ready, I would replace Veras with him.
Tom- I agree about the lefty bat, and Miranda can rake vs RHP, but I wouldnt mind letting him get another year in the minors and instead use someone we know is going to walk alot, that way he can hit 3rd or 5th if need be. Nick Johnson is our man! Which gives us 2 reasons to hope the Nationals sign Teixeira. Maybe Yanks should send them an anonymous envelope full of cash to help the cause?
Part of me thinks if Leo Mazzone couldn’t fix Cabrera, no one could, but Nolan Ryan is Nolan Ryan, and I actually might be inclined to argue Duncan is if not a better pitching coach than Mazzone, then certainly just as good.
CB
December 12th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Ken Rosenthal had some interesting things to say about Burnett.
Let’s hope he’s right because these issues are going to be the key thing in AJ becoming a good signing:
“At one point in his career, Burnett would have not been a good candidate to pitch in New York; he was too emotional, too mercurial.
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For Rosenthal to say such glowing things about anything Yankee is something. He must be ill. Leiter absolutely loves the guy. There’s somebody that would make a great pitching coach…him and Cone.
Tebow! Go Gators!
cashman is an idiot he is going to get burned again by offering this stupid contracts i would of rather have sheets
brandon i would want peavy instead
BBB
December 12th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Part of me thinks if Leo Mazzone couldn’t fix Cabrera, no one could, but Nolan Ryan is Nolan Ryan, and I actually might be inclined to argue Duncan is if not a better pitching coach than Mazzone, then certainly just as good.
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Leo Mazzone never really impressed me. The only pitchers he ever had were Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz. Everyone else either ended up hurt in Atlanta or they fell apart after two years.
Poor bet on the Sooners Pete… Florida is going to roll – 45-17. (It’ll be 28-3 at half). Florida will play man on Gresham and Inglacias and have the speed and size to contain Murray. You’ll also see a block punt and special teams td. Bradford will be called Peyton II for his Happy Feet. Tebow will show Bradford (who will win the Heisman and be distracted) who the best player in the country is with 3 td’s passing (with one being a “jump pass” to Tate Casey #84) and 1 TD rushing
“trade for peavy!
December 12th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
brandon i would want peavy instead”
Really? I wouldn’t has guessed it…
To tell you the truth, I can’t blame Ca$h for going after Burnett considering the arm he has. When you need pitching go for the best quality right? It isn’t as though he doesn’t have Wang and CC at the least to suck up innings at the top. And if he got Pettite that’s another 200 innings so AJ isn’t depended on to be a “horse”, which if he doesn’t turn the proverbial corner it wouldn’t end up killing us.
is taht so tom
Pete took Okie? They put up 60 points 5 games in a row because their whole conference plays bad, bad defense.
I have a feeling Florida will take this one.
Terrible idea betting Oklahoma. They play no defense whatsoever and Florida rolls them by at least 21.
I always thought Mazzone got credit for three guys that you could have put on the bump and let them go. I’ve heard Peterson talk about pitching and I can’t help but buy into his approach.
Rob, you’re singing my tune now. AJ won’t have to be the horse, none of they will have to be *the* horse. CC will hopefully give us lots of innings but he won’t have to give us the 253 he pitched in 2008. So maybe his tank will have more in it come October. If Pettitte comes home, that will hopefully be 180+ innings from the #4 guy! Horse? We’ve got a stable.
There’s every reason to think that NYY can get 200 innings out of 4 starters each and 150 from Chamberlain. Not many rotations will be able to do that. Boston, maybe.
“Leiter absolutely loves the guy. There’s somebody that would make a great pitching coach…him and Cone.”
Leiter really does love him. Thinks the world of him. Leiter is a smart guy who knows what it’s like to struggle as a young power pitcher. He also knows Burnett personally.
His recommendation is a very good thing. Still an enormous risk.
Overall, I get the sense that the entire organization just fell in love with Burnett. From the announcers to the scouts to the players to the GM.
Hopefully this isn’t a case of misreading a guy who has had far more success against your club than he has against anyone else.
Leiter and Cone would be good pitches, though Cone was so unorthodox and so talented I wonder if he’d have trouble relating to most guys who just couldn’t do what he was able to e.g. change arm slots, etc.
Nick,
Does Hank feel like he’s back at his stud farm?
Just my personal opinion, but to me, the effect Dave Duncan has had on pitchers is unparalleled by Leo Mazzone or anything. At least, from what I’ve seen in my years as a fan.
Even my (very knowledgeable) Braves fan friend admits that Mazzone is really only good with guys who already were on the cusp of respectability, rather than helping young talents establish themselves. But Duncan does it all. Helps great prospects realize their potential, reclamation projects, starters into relievers, relievers into starters.. I’ve really never seen anything like it. He is the man.
Rob NY — 2009 The Road to Redemption
December 12th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
I always thought Mazzone got credit for three guys that you could have put on the bump and let them go. I’ve heard Peterson talk about pitching and I can’t help but buy into his approach.
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Peterson may be a little too advanced or scientific for the old time managers to buy into. He may be perfect for Girardi, though. The conflict may be with Contreras.
***…Mazzone or anyONE, that is.
mel: someone should ask him when they unlock the basement.
And sadly I agree Florida wins the NC, but Teblow still likes little boys. Look for the almighty Miami Hurricanes to reclaim their former glory as the best team in Florida and in the nation within the next 2-3 seasons.
Nick,
lol. Did I make a joke about that? It sounds familiar.
BTW, what’s the line and your thoughts on the Hawaii Bowl? I hope the Fighting Irish Wipeout!
“brandon i would want peavy instead”
Listen fool he doesn’t want to be here, he is scared silly of NY. If you trade legit prospects for him he’d come completely unwilling and you have to extend his contract per his agent’s request. He’d want CC money, it’s been said so many times. I’d rather have Sheets because atleast he’d fall in line.
“Peterson may be a little too advanced or scientific for the old time managers to buy into.”
Don’t know about too advanced. Bit too arrogant.
It’s still unbelievable to me that he convinced the entire Mets organization to trade Scott Kazmir because Peterson was certain Kazmir had an uncorrectable flaw in his mechanics that would cause him to blow out his shoulder.
Peterson was in the thick of one of the worst trades of the recent past.
Steven Goldman of BP doesn’t like the A.J move.
“Buying A.J. seems about as safe a bet as buying GM. ”
http://pinstripedbible.mlblogs.com/
tfp disreguard me calling you a fool. It’s the situation you presented and the fact that Peavy doesn’t want to be here that got to me.
CB
December 12th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
“Leiter absolutely loves the guy. There’s somebody that would make a great pitching coach…him and Cone.”
Leiter really does love him. Thinks the world of him. Leiter is a smart guy who knows what it’s like to struggle as a young power pitcher. He also knows Burnett personally.
His recommendation is a very good thing. Still an enormous risk.
Overall, I get the sense that the entire organization just fell in love with Burnett. From the announcers to the scouts to the players to the GM.
Hopefully this isn’t a case of misreading a guy who has had far more success against your club than he has against anyone else.
Leiter and Cone would be good pitches, though Cone was so unorthodox and so talented I wonder if he’d have trouble relating to most guys who just couldn’t do what he was able to e.g. change arm slots, etc.
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With Cone, I guess it depends on whether they were vets or kids. I think he’d be great with kids. We have a college down here in Savannah called SCAD (Savannah College Of Art And Design). They started their basketball and baseball programs about 10 years ago, and brought in Cazzie Russell to coach basketball and Luis Tiant to coach the baseball team. They were great, and Tiant produced some really fine young pitchers. He was teaching everything but the spitball (as far as I know). They were playing College Of Charleston, Armstrong State and Georgia Southern within two years and beating them. Those are some of the better Div II baseball programs in the southeast.
As it stands now our bench will be
Molina
Melky
Ransom
Miranda
Individually ok. Collectively it doesn’t give Giradi a whole lot to work with.
I wonder when they will have the CC and Burnett “press conference/welcome to NY: Hope you know what you are getting into” thing.
so who would take a risk signing daniel cabrera he has good stuff i remember a game i attended last year daniel cabreara struck 5 did walk 6 but the whole game u saw alot of swinging and missin and to me if sumone could fix him he could b a 4starter on the yanks this season only if sumone kan fix him
“I’d rather have Sheets because at least he’d fall in line.”
The line to the MRI tube? I kid, I kid!
mel, the current line is Hawaii -1.5. I’m going to pound that the way I hope CC and AJ and Joba will be pounding the strike zone in 2009.
I agree with you re: the old timers GB. Mazzone is all about guys finding the best place within themselves. That and all the biomechanical stuff. I heard him explaining how important explosive hip movement is to velocity and I was sure the older guys would have been laughing at him. Work fast and throw strikes kind of guys.
Mazzone= Peterson. That was stupid.
Tarheelyank,
Won’t Melky be gone in a trade for Cameron?
Molina
Gardner
Ransom
Wiggington (?)
CB, do you think that Burnett just may have had trouble getting up against the weaker teams and needed the adrenaline rush of NY, Boston and the big teams?
Yankee fans myself included need to realize that Burnett has electric stuff. True he might get hurt but we have guys who can take his place.ex=Hughes,IPK. All we as yankee fans have been complaining abou before this off season is our rotation. Now we have CC,Wang,Burnett,Joba,5th ? starter. We have an amazing starting rotation=1 of the best in the league we have an excellent bullpen and closer. Now every one wants to cry about getting Tex,Manny=please no. If any thing Cashman has done a great job this off season. We should be praising him instead of criticizing him. Cant wait to see our rotation actualy kick some arse. Also Burnett got how many wins with what ranked offense production from his team.So relax It will be a good year for Yankee fans. Also wondering if any one has info or links regarding Pettittes decision or Sheets medical report.
Rob NY — 2009 The Road to Redemption
December 12th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Mazzone= Peterson. That was stupid.
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Hey…it’s easy to confuse them…they look so much alike.
“We have a college down here in Savannah called SCAD (Savannah College Of Art And Design)”
Ever see Ryan Pope pitch in college? His control numbers at SCAD were crazy.
Little disappointed that a guy with that kind of command hasn’t done better in the lower minors.
Mel
Wigginton would make it a whole lot better, but still no back-up 1B. Unless we plan on plugging Posada there.
“Steven Goldman of BP doesn’t like the A.J move.”
I like Goldman – but he decided long ago that no matter what if the yankees don’t sign Tex then this off season would be wasted for them.
All of the baseball prospectus guys have this same take – they all love tex and think that the yankees must sign him. All of them think this.
Much higher on tex than CC as they don’t like the risk related to pitchers.
There’s a solid point there but I think they’ve sort of lost perspective on things some.
CB
December 12th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
“We have a college down here in Savannah called SCAD (Savannah College Of Art And Design)”
Ever see Ryan Pope pitch in college? His control numbers at SCAD were crazy.
Little disappointed that a guy with that kind of command hasn’t done better in the lower minors.
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Yeah…caught a couple of his college games, and later his games with Charleston…..has that certain look…like he knows he’s good and doesn’t have to impress everybody. He just pitches. A definate keeper.
new Pete post —->
sorry…saw Ryan Pope in college. it was Justin Pope that NYY had a couple of years ago.
$82.5M and 5 years for a 32 year old who only tries in contract years and even then was only a little better than average this season. Amazing.
There are some bright sides to the deal:
1. Hughes, Kennedy, Aceves and anyone else coming out of the minors will have plenty of chances to pitch while he rehabs.
2. All the pressure is off Igawa, who now becomes a relative bargaign.
3. All the hilarious Pavano material (American Idle, honorary MRI tube, etc.) gets dusted off and reheated.
4. Good news for Tampa area physical therapists (bad news for Tampa area garbage truck drivers).
Can’t wait to see Cashman’s apologists spin this one in June when he’s making his second trip to the DL. “Al Leiter and JP “Boy Genius Jr.” Riccardi loved him!” “Atlanta wanted him too!” And my personal favorite: “The guys in Tampa made Cash do it!”
Cincinnati Reds will be the Rays of this season.
Temecula? Now you are dropping Riverside County references on everyone on the east coast. I’m a Connecticut guy in anaheim/oc for baseball just slightly less than you are. I’ll just say this about Temecula, it’s always 20 degrees hotter than LA. You can be sure Proctor’s elbow and Tanyon Sturze’s shoulder are healing nice there.
“2. All the pressure is off Igawa, who now becomes a relative bargaign.”
I hope this is a joke.
Joe Torre should set up an endowment for Scott Proctor. Proctor has to be one of the unluckiest players in recent history. He is abused by Torre for a couple of years then Cashman trades him out of that abusive relationship only to have Torre manage his new team a few months later. Now he sits non-tendered with a surgically repaired elbow.
Peter – Don’t ever bet against Joe Paterno when he has a month to prepare for a game. Just ask Vinny Testaverde and the Miami Hurricanes
BBB —
Typical Miami fan. A classless middle school humor attempt (Tebow) accompanied by an unrealistic, baseless fantasy about future dominance.
The attacks on AJ are strange. They guy made 112 the last four years. That’s a pretty big number. Sure, he’s risky, but a lot less ricky than Sheets who made 94 starts in the same period of time and had to be shut down at the end of the year.
GB7 you raised a question that I suggested a couple of weeks ago. Burnett’s success against the better teams may well be an indication that he excels when the bright lights are on.
I still want Tex… better return for $ 20 M than the combination of Pettite and Cameron.