Comments on: In the end, CC could be a bargain http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/14/in-the-end-cc-could-be-a-bargain/ A New York Yankees blog by Sam Borden, Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:49:32 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Brad http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/14/in-the-end-cc-could-be-a-bargain/comment-page-7/#comment-616863 Brad Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:18:35 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=5577#comment-616863 The only error in your argument is... Johan is better than C.C.! Not only that, but the Yankees give up first round draft picks for C.C. because he is a Type A. What are prospects before they are prospects? DRAFT PICKS! So therefore, the Mets gave up crappy prospects for Johan, and didn't have to give up draft picks, and paid him LESS MONEY (40 million less guarenteed) for a BETTER pitcher. The only error in your argument is…

Johan is better than C.C.!

Not only that, but the Yankees give up first round draft picks for C.C. because he is a Type A. What are prospects before they are prospects? DRAFT PICKS!

So therefore, the Mets gave up crappy prospects for Johan, and didn’t have to give up draft picks, and paid him LESS MONEY (40 million less guarenteed) for a BETTER pitcher.

]]> By: Troy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/14/in-the-end-cc-could-be-a-bargain/comment-page-7/#comment-616484 Troy Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:07:24 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=5577#comment-616484 What seems to be forgotten is that there was tremendous competition for Johan and the Yankees were bidding against themselves in that Range. The only reason the Yankees didn't get Santana was NOT the money but the issue of giving up Phil Hughes and more top pitching prospects. Plus Santana is considered a "gamer" which has since been reaffirmed as his performance of a Met. No one considers CC with the same pedigree. As a NY transplant in California, it will be interesting his time in NYC especially since he only choose the Yankees for the money since he waited so long to sign just to get the Giants, A's, Dodgers or Angels interested to match or get near the Yankees offer. But of course in terms of the whole package, CC was a better deal but it's all relative to the situation, time and competition. What seems to be forgotten is that there was tremendous competition for Johan and the Yankees were bidding against themselves in that Range. The only reason the Yankees didn’t get Santana was NOT the money but the issue of giving up Phil Hughes and more top pitching prospects. Plus Santana is considered a “gamer” which has since been reaffirmed as his performance of a Met. No one considers CC with the same pedigree. As a NY transplant in California, it will be interesting his time in NYC especially since he only choose the Yankees for the money since he waited so long to sign just to get the Giants, A’s, Dodgers or Angels interested to match or get near the Yankees offer. But of course in terms of the whole package, CC was a better deal but it’s all relative to the situation, time and competition.

]]> By: Adam http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/14/in-the-end-cc-could-be-a-bargain/comment-page-7/#comment-616223 Adam Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:08:46 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=5577#comment-616223 Umm go back and check those numbers. Santana will receive 151.5 if his option vests. Sabathia will get 161. Santana was babied by the Twins and started his career as a reliever, while Sabathia was abused like a 78 pinto. And lest ye forget, Sabathia will cost the Yankees their first two draft picks, so he did cost them some prospects... Umm go back and check those numbers. Santana will receive 151.5 if his option vests. Sabathia will get 161. Santana was babied by the Twins and started his career as a reliever, while Sabathia was abused like a 78 pinto.

And lest ye forget, Sabathia will cost the Yankees their first two draft picks, so he did cost them some prospects…

]]> By: GreenBeret7 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/14/in-the-end-cc-could-be-a-bargain/comment-page-7/#comment-616160 GreenBeret7 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:37:16 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=5577#comment-616160 Sabathia and Burnett can both pitch complete games, as can Santana. The difference is, with NYYs bullpen, there is now no reason to, unless there are special circumstances (no hitters). This bullpen is the best they'd had sin 1996-1999. There may not be another this close. Sabathia and Burnett can both pitch complete games, as can Santana. The difference is, with NYYs bullpen, there is now no reason to, unless there are special circumstances (no hitters). This bullpen is the best they’d had sin 1996-1999. There may not be another this close.

]]> By: Ed - CC and AJ are now Yanks!! Aj better stays healthy!!! http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/14/in-the-end-cc-could-be-a-bargain/comment-page-7/#comment-616152 Ed - CC and AJ are now Yanks!! Aj better stays healthy!!! Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:23:07 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=5577#comment-616152 update >>>> update >>>>

]]> By: mel http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/14/in-the-end-cc-could-be-a-bargain/comment-page-7/#comment-616151 mel Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:23:00 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=5577#comment-616151 Well, Santana had a choice and he chose to forego free agency. How was he to know that we'd have such a great bullpen in '08? Well, Santana had a choice and he chose to forego free agency. How was he to know that we’d have such a great bullpen in ‘08?

]]> By: Ed - CC and AJ are now Yanks!! Aj better stays healthy!!! http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/14/in-the-end-cc-could-be-a-bargain/comment-page-7/#comment-616149 Ed - CC and AJ are now Yanks!! Aj better stays healthy!!! Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:22:23 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=5577#comment-616149 Nick, no worry, KRod will just blow saves like the bullpen have been blowing this season. Nick, no worry, KRod will just blow saves like the bullpen have been blowing this season.

]]> By: Al from BK( CC and A.J. Welcome to the Bronx!) http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/14/in-the-end-cc-could-be-a-bargain/comment-page-7/#comment-616148 Al from BK( CC and A.J. Welcome to the Bronx!) Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:21:27 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=5577#comment-616148 I'll take the pitcher who is a year younger and the guy who regularly tosses CG's. I’ll take the pitcher who is a year younger and the guy who regularly tosses CG’s.

]]> By: Nick in SF http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/14/in-the-end-cc-could-be-a-bargain/comment-page-7/#comment-616147 Nick in SF Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:19:30 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=5577#comment-616147 Santana will also go gray faster pitching in that den of financial inequity. Plus ulcers. Santana will also go gray faster pitching in that den of financial inequity. Plus ulcers.

]]> By: PAT M http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/14/in-the-end-cc-could-be-a-bargain/comment-page-7/#comment-616146 PAT M Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:17:20 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=5577#comment-616146 Johan is still a great pitcher, but the torch has been handed off.....Witness the Spann awards that Nick in SF has been allouding to ....A very special award.... Johan is still a great pitcher, but the torch has been handed off…..Witness the Spann awards that Nick in SF has been allouding to ….A very special award….

]]>