Looking for some pinch hitters
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Dec 15, 2008 
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January is traditionally a slow month in terms of baseball news. I also will have a few weeks off prior to spring training.
But in the interest of keeping the blog active, we are going to do what we did last year and have pinch hitters for the month.
Here’s the deal: If you have a Yankees blog or a general baseball blog, you can write whatever you want (500 words max). While I would prefer to promote the work of a fellow blogger, consideration will be given to regular posters who have something to say. Your site also can’t charge a subscription fee.
You’ll get a link to your blog, a big audience and I’ll post your photograph if you want.
If you’re interested, please e-mail me by the end of this week. This will be first come, first served with preference given to those who have Yankees blogs and didn’t get their shot last season.
I do ask this: Please have a very specific, focused subject in mind, not just your take on the 2008 season or what other moves you think the team should make. By the time your piece is published, all the moves will probably be made.
It can literally be about anything that is Yankees related. Something historical, your personal experiences, etc.
If you’re interested, drop me a line with your idea and we’ll get a roster together. Thanks.
UPDATE, Tuesday at 12:22 a.m.: OK, no more entries. We’ve had 50+ requests for 31 spots.
Go Yankees!
I’ll get you the other 498 words later.
Super jump, holla
how ’bout Manny Mota and Jay Johnstone?
i will contribute 500 words on how the failure of bill burbach killed the late 60s team
yanksince57-was this 1959 or is it 1965?
December 15th, 2008 at 6:34 am
i will contribute 500 words on how the failure of bill burbach killed the late 60s team
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It wasn’t Bill Burbach that hurt as much as Rich Beck blowing out his arm in 1965. Add to that the injuries to Bill Stafford, Roland Sheldon, Al Downing, and Jim Bouton. That’s what killed the Yanks in the late 60′s. Between the kid pitchers and having Frank Tepedino, Steve Whitaker, Roger Repoz fail and Tresh and Pepitone falling apart and Mantle, Maris, Ford and Howard getting old before their time, is it a wonder that the Yanks disappeared for 12 years?
This is really cool. I dont have a blog, I wish I did. I plan becoming a regular poster, so that maybe I can contribute next year. GO YANKS!
its obvious that the yankees best shot to improve from here is CF (sorry brett) and mike cameron would do that, but i questioned whether $10M was worth it. now i see how it makes sense, they take igawa who i believe is owed $8M and it become an inexpensive upgrade. i know it wont be reflected in the major league payroll #’s but getting anyone to take igawa off th yankees books is a big plus. if no money is exchanged, it only cost the yankees $2M (the posting fee paid to japan is out the window and a total loss long ago.)
ham_fighters
December 15th, 2008 at 7:32 am
its obvious that the yankees best shot to improve from here is CF (sorry brett) and mike cameron would do that, but i questioned whether $10M was worth it. now i see how it makes sense, they take igawa who i believe is owed $8M and it become an inexpensive upgrade. i know it wont be reflected in the major league payroll #’s but getting anyone to take igawa off th yankees books is a big plus. if no money is exchanged, it only cost the yankees $2M (the posting fee paid to japan is out the window and a total loss long ago.)
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The Yanks would save a total of 3 mil over the length of the deal….10 mil for Cameron, about 6-700,000 dollars on Cabrera and 12 mil on Igawa (4 mil a year for 3 years). NYY would come out ok on that deal.
From last thread:
Getting Cameron, an older established player, for one year is actually a good idea. If it was longer term, not so much. But the Yankees aren’t building their future around Cameron – they’re using Cameron as place holder for either Austin Jackson or another younger player who may be available next season (Crawford?). Neither Melky nor Gardner is good enough offensively, especially with the lineup as currently constructed, to play every day. If they had to, sure, they could make do with either one. But Cameron gives them a bit more power, good defense, and a nice veteran presence.
I think people shouldn’t worry about Cameron messing up the Yankees plans to get younger. They are getting younger overall, but it’s a step-by-step process, not a huge overhaul.
Morning, Doreen. Hope you had a great weekend. Here’s a list of potential FAs at the end of 2009. There’s an * by the players with options.
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.c.....gents.html
by the end of 2009, the yankees will have gotten rid of giambi, abreu, damon, matsui and likely andy pettitte. so far they’ve picked up cc, aj and swisher. the yankees are getting younger pretty quickly actually. however, its a process and its not going to be that every single transaction is a younger player for and older one. cameron himself, while and older replacement will also be gone by year’s end. you can argue agains cameron for several reasons, but making the team older is a marginal argument at best.
Doreen:
I’d forget about Crawford. Rays have a reasonable option on him for 2010. They may look to trade him at some point, but they will not let him hit the market for nothing.
“The Yanks would save a total of 3 mil over the length of the deal….10 mil for Cameron, about 6-700,000 dollars on Cabrera and 12 mil on Igawa (4 mil a year for 3 years). NYY would come out ok on that deal.”
Brewers seem to be a little less dumb than that. They want money from the Yankees to a Cameron for Melky/Igawa deal. Both Melky and Igawa are fairly useless at the big league level. It’s a salary dump for Milwaukee. In the end, I’d guess they send Cameron for Melky and some minor league roster filler (read: a guy not on the 40 man, but also not named Igawa.).
Brian Roberts, I know he’s not going to be a Yankee, but I always liked his game…
Fredo -
Didn’t realize Crawford had an option. Too bad.
GB7 -
Good morning. I had a nice weekend, thanks. Anyway, the list of free agents isn’t all the impressive is it? Hmmm, I had thought there’d be more options there. An awful lot of older players, an awful lot of Yankees older outfields.
But there are a few guys I’m not that familiar with – mostly NLers. I’ll have to watch them.
I still think the Cameron move is okay. And I’m hopeful that Jackson makes good progress in AAA this season. Will he be starting the year in AAA?
Guess Kenny Lofton didn’t enjoy his time in NY. He told CC don’t do it.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12.....144243.htm
so if the yankees owe $12M on igawa and let say melky is going to make another million the next couple of years a straight up swap would cost the brewers about $3M, and we know they wont go there. the question becomes what its worth to the yankees to upgrade to cameron.
so if the yankees were to make the trade and also include $5M, their total cost to aquire cameron would only be $2M, although this wouldnt be reflected in savings on the mlb payroll.
Doreen
December 15th, 2008 at 8:04 am
Fredo –
Didn’t realize Crawford had an option. Too bad.
GB7 –
Good morning. I had a nice weekend, thanks. Anyway, the list of free agents isn’t all the impressive is it? Hmmm, I had thought there’d be more options there. An awful lot of older players, an awful lot of Yankees older outfields. But there are a few guys I’m not that familiar with – mostly NLers. I’ll have to watch them.
I still think the Cameron move is okay. And I’m hopeful that Jackson makes good progress in AAA this season. Will he be starting the year in AAA?
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Doreen, yeah, the pickings are thin, but, this is just a preliminary list. About the only sure ones that could help are Holliday, Bay and Ankiel. Other bats would be LaRoche and Huff. Only one of them would be needed for next year, if Teixeira were signed this year. If he isn’t, I’d go after LaRoche and Holliday or Ankiel.
im just picking my #’s for that supposition from posts here on the board, anybody with better knowlege of payroll matters can feel free to correct me there.
GB:
Ankiel is crap. He’s neither a good outfielder nor a good hitter. League was really on to him in the 2nd half last year. Wouldn’t want him anywhere near my team. I’d bid to keep Nady before even considering him. I like LaRoche but don’t see him as an upgrade over Swisher. Holliday would be cool, but I’m anxious to see how well he does outside the cozy confines of Coors. My guess is he can hit anywhere, but not quite as well. Very good, but not great.
You could always move Swisher to right and sign LaRoche…
re: ankiel did anybody ever diagnose what happened to him as a pitcher when he lost it comepletly? was anxiety related? i ask b/c this could bear on his ablility to play on the biggest stage. i know saint louis isnt a baseball backwater, but the pressure and venom surrounding the yankees is turned up to 11.
Tom:
You could. I’d prefer Nady/Swisher to LaRoche/Swisher, but you could do that. Guess you see where things are and determine whether a left handed or right handed bat better serves the team’s needs.
Fredo Corleone
December 15th, 2008 at 8:26 am
GB:
Ankiel is crap. He’s neither a good outfielder nor a good hitter. League was really on to him in the 2nd half last year. Wouldn’t want him anywhere near my team. I’d bid to keep Nady before even considering him. I like LaRoche but don’t see him as an upgrade over Swisher. Holliday would be cool, but I’m anxious to see how well he does outside the cozy confines of Coors. My guess is he can hit anywhere, but not quite as well. Very good, but not great.
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There’s nothing wrong with Ankiel as a hitter other than inexperience. He’s not a great outfielder, but, he doesn’t belong in center field. He’d be fine in right field…again with experience. The only reason “pitchers caught up to him last year” was because of pulled rib and stomach muscles, that he tried playing through.
Nady, on the other hand, did have pitchers catch up to him after a month in NY. The average dropped between the leagues by 70 points and overall by 30. His strikeouts jumped double.
ham fighters
December 15th, 2008 at 8:33 am
re: ankiel did anybody ever diagnose what happened to him as a pitcher when he lost it comepletly? was anxiety related? i ask b/c this could bear on his ablility to play on the biggest stage. i know saint louis isnt a baseball backwater, but the pressure and venom surrounding the yankees is turned up to 11.
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The same thing that happened to Steve Blass, Mackey Sasser, Steve Sax and Chuck Knoblauch….just a mental block.
Well, Swisher and Nady both hit left handed pitchers better As does Cameron.
I’d like to see them pick up a left handed bat for the bench.
“The same thing that happened to Steve Blass, Mackey Sasser, Steve Sax and Chuck Knoblauch….just a mental block.”
Forgot about Sasser. His problem was throwing the ball back to the pitcher, right??? Odd how those things happen.
Tom
December 15th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Well, Swisher and Nady both hit left handed pitchers better As does Cameron.
I’d like to see them pick up a left handed bat for the bench.
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The problem right now is that the Yankees are a predominantly right handed hitting team, now….not good in a park set up for left handed bats. The farm system is almost all right handed power. That could be an issue. The left handed hitters are mainly singles and doubles hitters.
I do think that Nady has some “contract year magic” in him…
Fredo Corleone
December 15th, 2008 at 8:50 am
“The same thing that happened to Steve Blass, Mackey Sasser, Steve Sax and Chuck Knoblauch….just a mental block.”
Forgot about Sasser. His problem was throwing the ball back to the pitcher, right??? Odd how those things happen.
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Yeah, Sasser couldn’t get it back to the pitchers without bouncing it or throwing it over their heads. Two other great young players back in the early 70s had the same issues as catchers and had to be moved to other positions. San Diegio drafted the best young college player in the country as a catcher, Mike Ivey. He had to be moved to third base and finally to first. The other was another 1st round pick, a catcher by the name of Dale Murphey. It was so bad that they had to walk the ball out to the pitcher.
“I do think that Nady has some “contract year magic” in him…”
The AJ Burnett Story
GB’s point about the righthandedness of the lineup is a good one. They were so left handed last year, which made necessary the trade for Nady. Still, with switch hitters factored in, they still throw 5 lefties at a right handed pitcher (6 if the Cameron trade doesn’t go down).
Melky AND Igawa for Cameron?
IMO Cameron is a tad better than Melky ’07 but not the player Melky could be. He’s certainly not ideal. OK. Whatever. Cameron has a 1-year conteract. One season is basically 6 months, and the trade deadline is about 4 months into it. If Cameron’s not working out, it’s only got to be until July.
Could the pro-rated amount of Cameron’s contract plus whatever NY has to pay Milwaukee on Igawa’s contract add up to some kind of savings on Igawa’s total remaining contract? If trading Cameron a the deadline means he costs about $7M, and Igawa is owed $12M over 3 years, NY still kind of comes out ahead if they pay $5M of Igawa’s deal.
Simple math I know. Too early in the AM to use the brain and think of what it really means. But if that’s essentially a wash, could it make a Tiexiera deal possible? With or without also trading Swisher ($3.6M) away, even if Swisher was kept as a higher-priced multi-use backup for 4 months before becoming part of a trade deadline deal too?
Can Cameron pitch? OK, but can he at least pitch better than Igawa? There you have it ….
Fredo Corleone
December 15th, 2008 at 9:02 am
“I do think that Nady has some “contract year magic” in him…”
The AJ Burnett Story
GB’s point about the righthandedness of the lineup is a good one. They were so left handed last year, which made necessary the trade for Nady. Still, with switch hitters factored in, they still throw 5 lefties at a right handed pitcher (6 if the Cameron trade doesn’t go down).
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As long as Matsui and Posada return to be close to their averages, it’ll be fine….but, still left hand power light, unless Cano also starts hitting for the power he’s expected to.
Cano maybe the key to the season. If he can get back to his ’07 form-problem solved, he bats in the 3 hole and all is right in the world again. If he can’t, I fear for the Yankees chances next year.
when pete did his top 20 and left matsui off i almost fell off my seat. if the yankees dont aquire another cleanup hitter, matsui will be the lynchpin of next season. if he’s godzilla, the yankees offense is better than last year’s, if not we’re scrambling to protect alex.
im a big fan of matsui’s and there’s not a guy in mlb i respect more, and im looking for a HUGE year out of him. like 25 HR, 120 RBI, not because its his walk year, but because his team needs him and he won’t let us down.
I am definitely interested in doing this. Go Yanks!
Tom
December 15th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Cano maybe the key to the season. If he can get back to his ‘07 form-problem solved, he bats in the 3 hole and all is right in the world again. If he can’t, I fear for the Yankees chances next year.
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As of now, I think Can is better suited to bat behind Nady in the 7th spot. Matui in the 3rd spot, then Rodriguez, Posada, Nady. Cano, ZSwisher and Cameron (Gardner). Until Cano can get to at least 50 walks, 3rd spot is no place for him. at least if Matsui is 3rd, Damon and Jeter could steal bases, use the hit and run….As of now, that’s possibly the only way to produce runs without the homers.
Jets will win the division, back later with 495 words left. Cheers.
so im sitting here thinking about what ken davidoff said yesterday (let andy go and let the young guys fill the #5 spot) and im thinking it would work except we would need to find some veteran guy to be the emergency backup, someone who’s basically a #6 type guy who wouldnt cost anything and a mental picture of this dufus pops into my head:
http://sfooh.com/images/big%20pon.jpg
“Jets will win the division”
This blog isn’t about comedy.
“Jets will win the division”
Jets fans know better. You may need to temper that since Mr.Pennington might be looking for the perfect revenge.
pete, is it true you’re going to spend your vacation writing under an assumed name for a community newspaper in poughkeepsie to cover your blackjack losses at the winter meetings?
Make a trade for Lance Berkman. It can be done since the Astro have no chance this season or the next and they need to cut cost. Berkman had a better season that Tex last year and their career offense numbers are in-line with Tex. Plus Berkman is being payed $14.5mill over the next two years with a $11mil option in 2011. The Astros need pitching and a first baseman. Give them Kennedy, Miranda, and throw in Nady to help make room and seal the deal. Our #3 hitter and offensive problems are solved.
Berkman for Kennedy, Miranda and Nady?
Is that a joke?
that deal actually makes sense.
Patrick who said that ? Because whoever did needs to get off the happy pills.
beefy said it right above me.
Berkman would cost a minimum of Hughes, Cano and Jackson. Probably more.
So far Berkman hasn’t been available for a trade. The Yanks have asked.
“Berkman would cost a minimum of Hughes, Cano and Jackson. Probably more.”
Right on the nail and we’d have to add another pitching prospect so we wouldn’t attempt that.
“So far Berkman hasn’t been available for a trade. The Yanks have asked.”
Yeah, but they probably haven’t presented a monster package like Kennedy, Miranda and Nady yet.
Is everybody happy??????????????????????
I’d like to think that Yankee fans everywhere are elated about shoring up our rotation with the firestarters we have obtained.
I think Mike Cameron could be a nice acquisition. I agree with Pete about the take on Cashman. I trust Cashman has an internal “kiss my butt” mechanism that tells him that some Yankee fans are always going to be major-league malcontents and that he will always be between a rock and a hard place with those fringe loonies. I think the rest of us are extremely cognizant of what it takes to try to walk the perfect line and are very grateful for the job the Yankee organization and Cashman continue to do.
THANKS BRIAN! You’re tops in my book.
I truly hope that the Jets win the division. I have had the perfect holiday season thus far. The absence of Derek Lowe in any Yankee Christmas stocking and the Jets winning the division? Well I’ll know I hit the lottery then!
throw in McAllister. We have arms to give and we need offense. Sooner than later the Astros are going to shed salaries, their payroll is around $90mil for ’09 and this is after letting go of Wigginton. They would probably like to get rid of Carlos Lee first because he is set to make $18.5mil this season, but the right package could net us Berkman. We did try earlier in the off-season but they wouldn’t budge but the financial times have gotten worse for them. For the least part it is worth revisiting the table with them as opposed to trying to sign Tex or Manny for big money.
“I truly hope that the Jets win the division.” are we talking winnipeg here? the jets who cant beat the lower 3rd of the league w/o a game winning gift?
you do realize that a team that cant handle buffalo, san fran and oakland will be humiliated in the playoffs dont u.
the jets i was yesterday were marshmallow-soft.
uhm..
“Steinbrenner said he’d been surprised by the club’s inconsistent offense, but noted that it’s been an area of concern for Cashman.”
“Even when I was worried about the pitching earlier — starting pitching is the most important thing of all — but Brian would keep telling me, ‘Yes, but I worried about the hitting,” Steinbrenner said. “That was Brian’s biggest concern even as we were reconstructing the pitching. We all know they’re better than that.”
and now without giambi and abreau he is no longer concerned??? This is from last year…
source: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3470906
sorry im dyslexic today i meant the jets i saw yesterday were marshmallow-soft.
beefy how old are you ?
cashman quote:
“The strength of this team more than anything is supposed to be the offense, and it’s been the weakness right now for us,” Cashman said. “We’re not getting young in this season, so we needed to start yesterday.”
The Article is from July 3rd…
The only bats Houston would consider moving would be Miguel Tejada and Carlos Lee. Neither are worth it.
what struck me was how the jets should have won yesterday going away but thier defense is soft as a baby’s butt.
marshawn lynch got hit at the line of scrimmage on every play yet seemed to gain 5-7 yards after being hit everytime the bills needed yardage. i cant remember seeing so many missed tackles in one game.
the only thing the bills had going for them in the game was the fact that lynch’s desire was superior to the desire of the 11 guys wearing green across the line of scrimmage.
then loshman gives the game back. yeesh!
no team that soft can win a big playoff game.
old enough to try and use decent logic to try and find a solution to a need. We want to keep payroll down, we need offense, we have trading chips, and we need versatility going in to the future. If you really thing about it trying to get Berkman is more logical than trying to sign Tex and handicapping ourselves for the next 8 years; or trying to sign a player that can’t play defense and will be headache for everyone else.
The point of posting the old article is that if Cash was concerned then about his offense, how can he not be now? Hank phrases it as he has consistently been concerned, not that he just became concerned…
he also mentions that “we are a year older” well, we are another year older now.. but Brian is not concerned about the offense?
beefy, he is questioning your age because your trade proposal is absurd. Lance Berkman is one of the top 5 hitters in the entire league. You aren’t going to get him for Miranda, Kennedy, Nady and maybe McAllister. He will cost several blue chip prospects or established major leaguers. Hughes, Cano, Jackson, Melancon, Montero, Chamberlain, Brackman … pick 3, throw in another prospect or two and that will have a SHOT at getting you Berkman.
“The only bats Houston would consider moving would be Miguel Tejada and Carlos Lee. Neither are worth it.”
GB uh I would be interested in El Caballo
Swisher, Nady, Matsui, Posada, and Cameron (maybe), replace Giambi, Abreu, Molina, Melky, and the DH by committee.
I’d rather have a line up of above average hitters at ever position than a solid 1-6 and replacement level players batting 7-9.
Matsui, if healthy, should replace Abreu’s production. Cameron, should he come here, is an upgrade over anything Melky or Gardner could give the Yankees. Nady, at worst, should be 80% of Abreu offensively and better in the field. Swisher is more than capable of going .260 with 25 home runs while playing a better first base than the big G. If Posada is healthy and able to give the Yankees a .775 OPS the Yankees will have a deep line up.
Viva,
Cashman had those comments when Matsui and Posada were down, and before we had Nady, Swisher and possibly Cameron. Also if you look at the team hitting with RISP it is way lower then it should have been given their overall average. It is reasonable to expect that number to bounce back to normal next year.
The Yankees aren’t likely to lead the league in offense next year but they will be better than in 2008.
“you do realize that a team that cant handle buffalo, san fran and oakland will be humiliated in the playoffs dont u.”
hamfighters, the last thing I want is for the Jets to be humiliated. Selfishly all I was thinking about was making sure the Patriots didn’t make the playoffs – though if they did and they are eventually humiliated I guess I could live with that!
Viva
December 15th, 2008 at 10:36 am
The point of posting the old article is that if Cash was concerned then about his offense, how can he not be now? Hank phrases it as he has consistently been concerned, not that he just became concerned…
he also mentions that “we are a year older” well, we are another year older now.. but Brian is not concerned about the offense?
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It’s the 15th of December. There’s two months between now and the start of Spring Training. How about we just wait another day or two, before starting to worry. There have been nothing in the way of FA bats signed, yet, and, only two significant bats have moved so, and the Yanks have one of them.
As I remember, though it may be that one of the years that the Yankees won the world series in their championship run they may have led the league in both offense and pitching, their claim to fame was leading the league (or being close to the top) in ERA during that wonderful run…
“old enough to try and use decent logic to try and find a solution to a need. We want to keep payroll down, we need offense, we have trading chips, and we need versatility going in to the future. If you really thing about it trying to get Berkman is more logical than trying to sign Tex and handicapping ourselves for the next 8 years; or trying to sign a player that can’t play defense and will be headache for everyone else.”
Your not even thinking as a GM, Berkman is cost controlled until 2011 an MVP bat in the NL. You can’t sell Ian Kennedy/Miranda (unproven commodities &Nady (X who would require a new contract and he’s not doing that for Texas he’s more likely after 12-16 per. w/ Boras as his agent)
There is no chance watsoever that Houston and Ed Wade as dumb as he is would even consider it. You wanna talk Berkman ?
Name #1 Hughes
Name #2 Cano
Name #3 Jackson
Name #4 Miranda
And the Yankees aren’t that desperate.
Patrick,
Well, I for one am concerned. I am excited by the moves this team has made this year with CC and AJ, that is fantastic..
but to get Tex for me is something that has to happen even if the deal is structured to be heavy in arrears..
Watching great pitching is a lot of fun, but what makes the Yankees so exciting is their ability to score runs and hit HR’s.. yes I know, we have Arod.. and if he is the monster of 2007 so be it..
I read a lot here that the “Tex” deal is not happening.. but if only it did I wouldn’t just be excited about our off-season signings.. I would be flabbergasted!
i shouldnt be knocking the jets as i bleed giants blue (i go back to allie sherman) and i like some of the jet’s guys, (luv b.smith!) but im rooting for pennington and the dolphins.
but i just couldnt believe the jets defense yesterday, they did nothing in a game the team needed until loshman gave them the ball at the end.
All in all Teixeira is just another brick in the wall.
My bet is Tex will sign w/ Washington.
Brandon (SHOW SHEETS THE MONEEEEEY !, CC & AJ are Yankees!)…”Don’t trade Robi !”
December 15th, 2008 at 10:55 am
My bet is Tex will sign w/ Washington.
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Seconded. I think they have the money, and he wants the money. All the posturing about being on a winning team will go out the window when the only 200m+ deal is from the Nats.
Brandon,
If I was a player of Tex caliber, I would only want to sign with a team that has a real shot to win the WS each year.. that leaves me with very few choice. I would be shocked if Tex accepted the Nats deal even though it is close to his home.
i believe it could be done for less because Wade is that dumb, but you are right more blue chippers would be needed. If we could only find a common ground.
Brandon (SHOW SHEETS THE MONEEEEEY !, CC & AJ are Yankees!)…”Don’t trade Robi !”
December 15th, 2008 at 10:43 am
“The only bats Houston would consider moving would be Miguel Tejada and Carlos Lee. Neither are worth it.”
GB uh I would be interested in El Caballo
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Lee missed the last 2 months of last season with surgery and has a huge contract. He’s still owed 74 million over the next 4 years. Add to that, he’s a bad outfielder and can’t play 1st base. As I said, he’s not worth it.
If Boston doesn’t sign Tex they are screwed. They don’t really have any pitchers out there who will make a big impact like the two that the Yanks picked up, and Manny won’t resign with them. If Angel’s sign Tex, Mets don’t have the money, then the Yankees are the only big market team in on Manny.
Yanks sign Manny and the Red Sox don’t pick up Tex and it will be a disaster for Boston. That’s why you have to bet heavily they will sign Tex. And if they sign Tex its a good bet Angel’s go after Manny. Which could be tough for us.
Can anyone see a: Kennedy, Nady, Melky for Fielder trade?
i really get why the Nats are putting up the bucks here. they intend to go right after the O’s and they realize the value of texiera to the baltimore-washington market.
what i dont get is, where are the O’s here? i keep hearing they’re in on him but i havent heard anybody say they’ve made an offer.
the O’s absolutly cant afford to lose tex to the nats, it would diminish thier franchise to see him lead DC to prominence with a local star leading the charge. after all the stupid things angelos has done in his time there, this one’s a no brainer. if they let him go to the angels, thats one thing, if they let him go to the Nats, Yankees or Sox, they are saying they cant compete with the big boys.
i cant believe they’re not all-in here.
“Brandon,
*If I was a player of Tex caliber, I would only want to sign with a team that has a real shot to win the WS* each year.. that leaves me with very few choice. I would be shocked if Tex accepted the Nats deal even though it is close to his home.”
Throw me 200 million dollars plus and I’ll forget about the damn ring. Say that WS team gives you 140 – 160 and that non WS team puts up 220 million. What deal do you take ?
“Can anyone see a: Kennedy, Nady, Melky for Fielder trade?”
NO. for the millionth time, Prince Fielder = DH in the AL. plus, Fielder is worth more than that.
Viva,
I understand your desire to sign Tex, most of us have the same desire! We all want Tex but some of us have realized that its just not possible. The Yankees are trying to reduce payroll and will struggle to do so if the only remaining moves are to sign Pettitte, trade for Cameron and sign some bench help. Now if they go after Tex it will add another 20 million a year to the payroll. Tex, Pettitte, Cameron, bench help will put the payroll over $220 million.
I just don’t think its feasible.
“what i dont get is, where are the O’s here? ”
the O’s won’t break the bank will the Nats did.
**Kenny Lofton is a jerk**
Lofton was out of the game last season, but recently he tried to hurt the Yankees again when he attempted to dissuade CC Sabathia from signing with the Bombers.
“He painted a bad picture of New York and the Yankees,” a person in the know said. “A lot of negative things.”
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12.....144243.htm
I did this guest post thing last year and had tons of fun doing it.
Hope I can do it again. That is, unless you all desperatley don’t want me to
“Can anyone see a: Kennedy, Nady, Melky for Fielder trade?”
I don’t see that happening for a few reasons. First of all, I’m not too sure the Yankees even want Fielder. He is a one-dimensional player. Prince is a great hitter but he is a very poor fielder. Secondly, it would cost a lot more to get Fielder than the package you put forward.
If you could somehow spin your Medieval studies into a blog post Rebecca, I’d be impressed.
i vote for rebecca again!
“If you could somehow spin your Medieval studies into a blog post Rebecca, I’d be impressed.”
This.
*I don’t want the Yankees to sign Teixeira*
For the record, not all of us are salivating over Teixeira. I’m happy with what we have and am thrilled the big bucks went to pitching. History should have taught us that while we don’t need a star at every position on the field, we desperately need top-notch pitching. I haven’t wanted Teixeira from jump street because I don’t think he is a deal breaker is the Yankees winning or losing.
By the way, the Yankees line-up is hardly chopped liver.
Rob NY – I don’t know if you saw it, but I left you a post regarding the bar and making choices regarding what kind of law to practice. But it was much later in the same conversation so you may not have seen it.
If the Player’s Association put pressure on Sabathia to take the highest offer, why would they not be pressuring Teixeira to take the highest offer?
If that’s the case, as of right now, Teixeira would be signing with the Nats. I do not think LAA or BOS will go higher than 180M.
* in the Yankees winning or losing.
And I would love to see Tex sign with the Nats only because I like seeing the “not so fortunate” teams get big-name acquisitions also! Other than that I don’t really care where he signs.
Reggie Jackson > Kenny Lofton
“If the Player’s Association put pressure on Sabathia to take the highest offer, why would they not be pressuring Teixeira to take the highest offer?”
What evidence is there that Sabathia was pressured?
Yeah Trisha I read it and replied in one of the past threads but Pete updates so much you probably didn’t get it: Yeah I’m cautiously optimistic about the bar. I’ve always been good at memorizing information, filing it away for later use.
To rb15 and Trisha thanks for the words of wisdom.
Trisha—I have this habit of singing my favorite song “Alone in my principles” so I don’t think chasing my dream (despite the poor check) is going to bring anything but good for me and everyone else. For better or worse I think I have a calling and if I didn’t follow it I’d die a disappointed old man.
Tom and Patrick: I did it once.
http://www.puristbleedspinstri.....-size.html
Here’s a list of topics:
Yankees-Redsox rivalry= 100 years war.
madonna=wife of Bath
New Yankee Stadium= Notre dame cathedral
The Black Death= PED use in baseball
Arod V Jeter= War of The Roses.
Monument Park= St Relics
October 2004= Fall of Constantinople
Jonny Damon= the conversion of constantine, or Clovis
The Holy Grail= world series ring.
“I have this habit of singing my favorite song “Alone in my principles” so I don’t think chasing my dream (despite the poor check) is going to bring anything but good for me and everyone else. For better or worse I think I have a calling and if I didn’t follow it I’d die a disappointed old man.”
This actually brought tears to my eyes. It’s knowing that there are good, principled, caring (and unselfish) people in this world that continues to hearten me about the future of our country. Good for you! Let me know when you will be taking the bar. I will definitely send some good thoughts (and prayers) your way, though I’m sure you’ll get through without them!
(FWIW, I found the federal bar a piece of cake compared to the state bar. Consider taking that also because you never know when you might need to plead a case in federal court!)
And yes – if I have one “complaint” about this blog it’s that Pete sometimes quickly adds new topics and unfortunately a lot of times good discussion is curtailed as people for some reason feel the need to topic jump the minute something new is added!
“You don’t frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, you sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called “Arthur King,” you and all your silly English K-nig-hts.”
that holy grail?
Haha that’s a great blog post Rebecca.
Oh man, you guys are cracking me up!
But what I have planned is better
.
It’s more meaningful–at least to me–and you have to remember, not everyone here likes swords as much as I do
Bottom line is the Yanks need another big bat….If the Red Sox get Tex their lineup is scary….Who is this big bat going to be??
And Swisher and Cameron at the back end of the lineup scares me….too many k’s
“It’s not a question of where he grips it! It’s a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.”
ok, ill stop now…
Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch= Rivera’s cutter.
Fredo:
My point is that the Player’s Association has been known to ‘pressure’ particular free agents to help set the market trend. That being said, why is there no speculation that Teixeira should take the highest offer…that being the Nat’s right now.
I know Boras is still shopping him and taking offers, but there is no pressure from the PA, why?
(This is the link from a month ago about the PA pressuring CC)
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....surin.html
Why do the Yankees need another bat? They have one of the best pitching staffs in the majors and they have improved their defense. The lineup is more balanced then it was last year (if Cameron is added). You don’t need the #1 offense in the league to win a world series. Look at the Rays, they had a very mediocre offense and they got to the world series. The Angels were pretty mediocre as well. Pitching wins Championships, period.
“Bottom line is the Yanks need another big bat….*If* the Red Sox get Tex their lineup is scary….Who is this big bat going to be??”
If If If If If …they don’t have the highest offer.
“Pitching wins Championships, period.”
Though people may be able to point to some scattered exceptions, this is absolutely rock solid baseball logic.
I’m not dead yet.
The need a big bat not just for next year but for the future. Almost every player on this team is in their mid 30′s and some have expiring contracts soon. Plus, Swisher and Cameron are being overrated offensively. They are ok but I’d rather have “hitters.” players that put the ball in play….
“the team continues to negotiate on a deal to bring back 46-year-old Jamie Moyer, who went 16-7 with a 3.71 ERA in 20008 with the Phillies.” espn
with all the worries about the latter years of the contracts to sabathia and burnett, there is the counterbalance of pitchers like moyers who seem to pitch as long as they want.
in retrospect, baltimore in ’93 or ’94 could have signed moyer to a 15 year contract and still be in good shape with him. of course the next contract dangling ahead may have been a prime mover in keeping him going.
more studies should be done to evaluate and project the range of how long a pitcher could be expected to pitch. it would be a probability thing of course,but there must be some common elements that all pitchers who have long careers have, and there must be some common elements that pitchers who have short careers have.
intuitively, i do not expect burnett to be pitching at 40. sabathia, because he’s a lefty with his height probably could be a lefty specialist even if he was throwing in the mid 80′s.
a pitcher like mariano with the solid repeatable mechanics seems like the kind of pitcher who would last and he has. some pitchers trade things throwing across their body, for example, for fastball movement, but the price is a shorter career because of the strain it puts on the throwing arm. pitchers like these would be poor risks for long term contracts.
Thanks again Trisha, while I don’t know if I believe in prayer I know the strength of positive thoughts and would definitely appreciate any you could send my way. The future of this country is exactly what I plan on concerning my life with.
No offense, Brandon, but you’re fooling yourself if you don’t think that Tex would leave a few pounds (medieval currency, not fat) on the table to play for a winning team.
Tex is going to the red Sox or Angels if they Yanks don’t step up. He is an East Coast guy who wants to win….he will go with Boston over the O’s or Nat’s. He will take less to join the Yanks if the offer is reasonable.
I vote for Jorge Mexico as guest blogger.
He could give us up-to-the-minute updates on the first Aceves Family Christmas.
“No offense, Brandon, but you’re fooling yourself if you don’t think that Tex would leave a few pounds (medieval currency, not fat) on the table to play for a winning team.”
Mel he’ll take the highest bid.
Mel– If you think he would leave a few shillings on the table I point at two pieces of evidence to the contrary. One is A-Rod to Texas purely for the cash. Two his agent is the same agent who orchestrated that deal despite the fact that it was bad for the player. I don’t know anything about Teix’s personality but if he’s with Boras we have to assume he buys into the philosophy.
Swisher and Cameron are overrated? They are underrated if anything. For a CF, Cameron is a great hitter. Swisher has a great OBP and above average power. Both are above average fielders.
You say NY need more hitters for the future. Okay.. lets look at who they have under contract for 2010
C – Posada
1B – Swisher
2B – Cano
SS – Jeter
3B – Rodriguez
LF –
CF – Jackson
RF –
DH –
So basically they need some corner OF’s and a DH in 2010. Those are usually the easiest positions to fill whether it be by trade or free agency. Incidentally, Matt Holliday is a free agent after 2009 and would fit very nicely at LF.
I don’t buy your argument that the Yankees need to sign another bat for the future. Gone are the days of an all-star at every position.
I’m glad the Yankees are trying to get a younger and more balanced lineup with better defense.
I know its expensive but I believ the Yanks will sign either Tex or Manny call it a hunch….
I also believe Andy will sign by wednesday.
Pitching definitely wins championships, but it shouldn’t be either/or. We need to score more than the other guys. That’s all.
1. Best choice-Tex
2. Next best-Manny
3. Next, next best-work with what we have
Hopefully guys like Swisher and, yes, Gardner will remind the vets what it looks like to grind out at-bats. Looking back, even Alex and Jeter weren’t always doing it.
Kevin Long has a challenging season coming up. Getting two key vets back, working with Alex to drive the ball, keeping Cano’s new mechanics in check, getting Swish back to career averages, helping Gardner get on base, and getting Jeter to get out of the infield.
“# Patrick December 15th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Why do the Yankees need another bat? They have one of the best pitching staffs in the majors and they have improved their defense. The lineup is more balanced then it was last year (if Cameron is added). You don’t need the #1 offense in the league to win a world series. Look at the Rays, they had a very mediocre offense and they got to the world series. The Angels were pretty mediocre as well. Pitching wins Championships, period.”
Because they arent the Rays. The Rays are a young fast extremely good defensive team. You cant say just because the Yankees have a good rotation now they can continue to struggle scoring runs like we did last year hoping to win games 2-1 off our pitching alone because the Rays did it. Our defense isnt good enough to reliably keep games that close.
If you are going to have a team this old they have to do what a team like that is designed to do. Score a disgusting amount of runs.
And to me Cameron looks like a defensive downgrade from what I saw of him toward the end of 08 and the post season. Doesnt look like a GG anymore.
And if they arent going to properly protect Arod in the lineup there is really no reason to have him at all. Its going to be a waste for him and us. We need a quality 3-4 replacement in the lineup for what we lost this offseason.
Again, Tex will take less to join the Yankees just like Beltran would have. It is a mistake for the Yankees to pass on him because of some bogus reason concerning budget. THERE IS NO BUDGET!!
Literally I’d start thinking Adam Dunn
Patrick:
I think in 2010, Posada will not be the C, Jeter will probably be transition from SS…
mel, Amen!
nud,
Totally agreed. If you’re talking a difference of $5-10M you’re going to choose location or ability to win. If you’re talking $60M, you take the highest offer.
What evidence is there that the Nats can build a winning team around any player? Or that the Orioles can compete with the Yankees, Sox, and now the Rays?
One of Teixeiras wishes in his sideline interview with the lovely Erin Andrews was that he wanted to go where there’s a chance to win ever year, not in the last 2 years of his contract.
“mel, Amen!”
She’s just confused.
“mel, Amen!”
She’s just confused.
He’s just a Tex hater.
TEX’S FIRST CHOICE IS TO COME TO THE yANKEES. IF HE IS REASONABLE IN HIS REQUEST, we should make the move on him!
Brandon,
I would rank my choices like this:
1-Teixeria
2-Dunn
3-Johnson (if the Nats landed Teixeria)
4-Ramirez
Tex’s first choice is the dollars as soon as you learn that you’ll live better. Washington will sign him. Pair him w/ Ryan Zimmerman + Burrell or possibly Manny and tell me Washington wouldn’t be a contender …oops I just did Bowden’s job.
Tex: Uh, hi, Mr. Boras. Did you tell the Yankees that I was interested in playing there?
Boras: Yeah, Marky. About that. Sorry, son, they weren’t very receptive. I think they’ve been focused on their pitching situation.
Tex: Really? They didn’t say anything? Nothing about me?
Boras: Sorry, no. I even tried to reach out to Hank with a pallet of smokes. Sorry, kid. Hey! Cheer up, those guys up in Mass really, really like you.
Tex: Uh. Okay.
If Teixeira were from the Dominican Republic, Brandon would be all over him like a bum on a hot dog.
In 2005 the Yankees Salary total was 208m since then we have been less..
http://www.swivel.com/data_columns/show/1758464
interestingly enough, that link contains winning percentage as well..
so what is our total salary right now assuming we do nothing else?
Can we afford Tex with the new stadium? Absolutely..
stop thinking there is a 200m budget.. there isn’t. Everyone wants to keep profits highers and salaries lower with a gloomy economy.. and that is the only reason why I think the Yankees are reluctant to sign Tex. He is a perfect fit.
hardwood,
What makes you think A-rod needs protection? He’s one of the top 3 hitters in the league. The Yankee lineup is better than you are giving it credit for. Every guy in that lineup has the potential to have an OPS .800 and higher. That’s a ridiculously deep lineup. You guys need to get used to the fact that the lineup will not be full of superstars.
The team isn’t THAT old next year, in fact the Yanks have gotten a lot younger this offseason. Except for Mo and Marte, everyone in the bullpen is under 30. 3/5ths of our rotation will be under 30 with Hughes, Kennedy and Aceves backing them up. The Yankees got younger at RF and 1B. Gardner will have a significant role next year, whether it be as the starting CF or the 4th outfielder. Slowly but surely the Yankees are shedding aging sluggers with huge contracts from the team and now you want them to add some more?
The defense is improved over last year and the pitching is greatly improved. The Yankees will have 3 strike-out pitchers in the rotation (Joba, Sabathia, Burnett). With the amount of K’s they could generate, defense is of less importance.
“I think in 2010, Posada will not be the C, Jeter will probably be transition from SS…”
Why do you believe this? Jeter isn’t moving until his current contract is over. He will be a FA after 2010. If Posada’s shoulder is healthy he can be a catcher for the rest of his current deal as well.
Brandon,
Thanks, for the friendly advice, but I live a very good life. Please don’t make me ask the others to help illustrate how loco some of your ideas have been.
“Bottom line is the Yanks need another big bat…”
Only if CC and AJ stink up the place and Posada, Cano and Matsui go on a hitting vacation. I want Tex at 1B like many other people here, but I don’t see the Yankees dropping another 20mil a year after the huge contracts they gave CC and AJ. It’s disappointing; I think Tex would have made a great Yankee, but some things just aren’t meant to be.
Boras: But these guys in Washington really love you, they want to make you the franchise, you could be thier MJ
Tex: But I really want to play in NY
Boras: They have 210 million for 8 yrs. on the table Marky
Tex: I got to think about
Boras: Now they’re telling me 220
Tex: 220 ? gee golly … 220 ?
Boras: mmmmhmmm…Marky I can get Manny there too you guys could be the next big thing in the NL and overtake baseball
Tex: Manny ?…Give me the pen Scott.
“If Teixeira were from **Asia**, Ed would be all over him like a bum on a hot dog.”
correction fixed.
on a 10 year deal, you cant say who’s going to be good and not good over the life of the contract. if you had signed a 10 yr contract after the 1997 season, you would assume that the O’s, who won 98 games would continue to vie with the yankees for dominance in the division while the sox continue to lag behind.
who would have guessed back then that the angels would become a powerhouse, big money club?
you know boros would LOVE to expand the big dollars teams to include the Nationals! just like he pumped up tom hicks into throwing his whole franchise into signing arod.
10 years is a very long time.
“What makes you think A-rod needs protection? ”
It might have something to do with the fact that most of last year, he was swing at crap because that’s all anybody threw at him. There was nobody behind him that the pitcher feared so they just pitched him garbage, thinking he would swing. And most of the times, he did. He didn’t believe that anyone behind him would get the job done so he tried to do it himself. His results with RISP speak for themselves.
Any deal Teixeira signs with Washington or Baltimore will have an opt out.
“If Teixeira were in a thong, Tom would be all over him like a bum on a hot dog.”
correction
First of all, how did it get in everyone’s head that Tex WANTS to be a Yankee? He’s never said such a thing. The Yankees aren’t going to get him for a discount.
To answer your question Viva, last year the Yankees’ payroll was at $209 mil. Cashman has said he wants to reduce payroll if at all possible. It’s tough to project what the Yankees payroll is right now because we don’t know what Nady, Wang and Bruney will get in arbitration. I’ve made some guesses on that and if my guesses are close and if the Yankees sign Pettitte and trade for Cameron the payroll will be above $200 million. That’s before any Tex or Manny signing.
Use your heads people, Tex will not be a Yankee in 2009. Manny will not be a Yankee in 2009.
About a week before Arod signed with Texas, the Rangers signed a 10 year 252 million dollar deal with a cable company to broadcast Ranger Games. Coincidence?
“What makes you think A-rod needs protection? ”
Again! What’s with the bad A-rod PSA messages?
“First of all, how did it get in everyone’s head that Tex WANTS to be a Yankee?”
I think that people assumed that since his childhood idol is Donnie Baseball that he’d like to play for the Yankees. Not too far fetched an assumption IMO. My favorite all time Yankee is Mattingly and I want to play for the Yankees.
Laura,
A-rod was one of the top 3 hitters in the AL this year and should have had more consideration for an MVP. I think he did fine with “no protection”. Also, everyone is saying we need a #3 hitter, well that isn’t protection for A-rod. Finally, we didn’t have Posada or Matsui for most of last year. Put them at 5 and 6 behind A-rod and you have your protection.
Actually in my opinion we should have A-rod batting 3rd behind Jeter. Put Matsui in the cleanup spot, Posada 5, Cano 6, etc.
my guy’s got that ‘protecting alex’ thing covered.
have faith in hideki!
Patrick,
Tex has said many times that Mattingly is his idol.. and do you usually have an idol and not root for his team?
many links on the internet about tex and his affinity to the Yankees, particularly Donny Baseball..
You don’t have to be a Rocket Scientist to realize he would love to fill the shoes of his hero..
here is on link (at the bottom)
http://vault.sportsillustrated...../index.htm
“dave (USA) December 15th, 2008 at 11:47 am
I vote for Jorge Mexico as guest blogger.
He could give us up-to-the-minute updates on the first Aceves Family Christmas.”
I don’t understand this post or what the point was supposed to be at all.
Or was this simply obnoxious sarcasm? I’m honestly asking as I don’t understand it at all.
Nor do I understand the tag of (USA).
Was this supposed to connote some kind of xenophobia on top of the sarcasm? As if the internet was particularly delimited to the lines on a map that denote national boundaries?
Around a week ago a poster was making very mean spirited comments to Jorge related to nationality and I hope this is not some kind of attempt to continue that antagonism.
Again, I’m honestly asking because I find this so perplexing. Blogs often don’t allow for the emotional context of words so that’s why I ask.
But if this post is suggesting what it seems to be suggesting I find it very unfortunate and full of ill will.
What was the point?
It’s great that people from all over the world post here. I think it’s wonderful that there are so many fans from different countries who follow the Yankees and baseball.
It’s one of the most unique parts of this blog. How great are all the people from Taiwan who follow the games Wang pitches and post here, for example?
One of the best stories on this blog over the past year was Jorge literally giving Pete and everyone here the heads up about a pitcher from Mexico that the yankees had signed named Al Aceves who no one in the U.S. had any clue about. Not Baseball America. Not anyone.
I follow the Yankees minor league system. The prior two years the yankees had moved aggressively to use data mining techniques to sign three players from the Independent League two of whom turned into good minor league players – Scott Proctor and Justin Christian.
So I thought the yankees doing the same with the Mexican league seemed both to be a logical extension of that strategy and also a very nice next step forward in its innovative nature.
Getting Jorge’s reports and take on Aceves was a terrific resource. One that could not be replaced or substituted for in any way. No one outside of the Yanks new much about Aceves at all.
And Jorge’s take on Aceves was spot on.
So when Aceves started dominating the minors readers here at LoHud had some inkling why that was happening and we knew to keep our eyes for him moving through the system.
Jorge providing the community here with his take on Aceves was one of the most interesting events here on this blog over the past year as it was so out of the blue and Aceves went on to do so well.
It was a wonderful addition and I was happy to have the opportunity to read what Jorge had written about Aceves and to learn from him.
That was a great example of the kind of collective knowledge that is possible in a dynamic on-line community.
I find it very unfortunate that one poster seems to be knocking another poster like Jorge who has made a significant contribution to the discussion here for ostensibly being from another country.
I find that kind of ill will very unfortunate and outside the sentiment that many of us who participate in this blog come here for.
haha@Laura..
I do play for the Yankees on PS3!!! and I play CF and quite often Bernie pinch hits for me.
Just because he admired Mattingly doesn’t make him a Yankee fan. He grew up in Maryland and was always an Orioles fan.
I like LeBron James and A.I. was an ideal of mine but I’m a Knicks fan. So yeah you can have an ideal and not root much for the team.
iv always been a yankees fan but i loved (long island boy) carl yaztremski!
I always loved Cal Ripken Jr., Ken Griffey Jr, etc but I’m a Yankee fan so yeah Brandon you have a point.
Viva
December 15th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Patrick,
Tex has said many times that Mattingly is his idol.. and do you usually have an idol and not root for his team?
many links on the internet about tex and his affinity to the Yankees, particularly Donny Baseball..
You don’t have to be a Rocket Scientist to realize he would love to fill the shoes of his hero..
here is on link (at the bottom)
http://vault.sportsillustrated...../index.htm
—-
Did we retire #23? Even if we did, offer it to Tex and then you can retire it again just like we did with #8
and if that doesn’t convince you that “TEX WANTS PINSTRIPES”..
right out of Boras’s Book on his player, “Tex”.
“Finally, Mark explains in the book that he has always wanted to live in New York and play for the Yankees. He says that he loves the pinstripes and can’t wait to trade his Angels cap for this one.”
Link: http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/.....k_tei.html
“I always loved Cal Ripken Jr., Ken Griffey Jr, etc but I’m a Yankee fan so yeah Brandon you have a point.”
Griffey was one of mines too. I grew up w/ his swing in PALs, then went into following Arod/Pujols.
“Griffey was one of mines too. I grew up w/ his swing in PALs”
same here, gotta love his swings!
CB,
Here’s the genesis of Jorge (Mexico) vs. dave — or should I say Jorge (Mexico) and SteveB attacks dave for daring to question the age of Aceves — as many other bloggers,commentators, and journalists (including Pete) have done as well.
“dave September 9th, 2008 at 10:11 am
There’s no way Aceves is 25 years old. He’s the Mexican version of El Duque.”
“Jorge (México) September 9th, 2008 at 11:59 am
?????????????????????????
What do you think, Dave? Do you think México is a jungle? FYI, Alfredo Aceves was born in San Luis RÃo Colorado, México, on December 8th, 1982.
I don’t know if you have basics knowledge about Mathematics, but, a man who was born on December, 1982, is now 25 years old.
I don’t know what happens in your birthplace, but here in México, when a child is born, his parents go and register him.
I don’t know what’s your problem with México, (this is not the first time you), but, please, don’t mess with my country because of your ignorance.
I know you don’t care about what I’m saying. It only shows your stupidity, your ignorance and your racism. Go eat them somewhere else.”
“SteveB September 9th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
I’ve seen Aceves in Trenton. Not an overpowering fastball, all he did was “get outs”. That sounds good to me.
Jorge, don’t worry about it. Some people, no matter their nationality, insist on acting juvenile. I’ve been to Mexico several times, and I love the people there. Very friendly and accommodating when treated with respect, which is how everybody should act anyway.”
“Jorge (México) September 9th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Thanks, Steve. No problem at all. It’s just that this is not the first time that poor little guy (Dave) says something stupid about México. But it is absolutely clear to me that this kind of people (you have to call them someway) is harder to find each new day. Thank God.”
“dave September 9th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
If you don’t care what I think, why did you get so defensive at my first comment?
Where did I say Mexico was some jungle and all the other stuff you shoved into my words. You found an awful lot to get mad about in two short sentences.
“There’s no way Aceves is 25 years old. He’s the Mexican version of El Duque.”
Somehow you and your pal twisted those lines into a racist statement. You also mentioned that I’ve made negative comments in the past. That’s funny considering today was the first time I’ve ever posted on this or any other Yankee blog. Maybe you’re just wrong—and overly sensitive to any remark regarding any Mexican. If Aceves gets bombed by the Angels tonight, maybe you can accuse them of racism for hitting a Mexican’s fastball too hard.”
After reading the above, if you’re still perplexed by my periodic tweaking of him ever since that day, I’ll be glad to elaborate. And tell me who sounds like a nationalistic xenophobe? Jorge (Mexico) or me?
I was curious if anyone has tried this Sports Handicapping Service? I saw his video on Youtube and it turns out the service is sold through clickbank which means it comes with a 60 day money back guarantee. Was wondering what peoples thoughts were.