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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,

I looked up Abreu&#039;s and Manny&#039;s fielding numbers on BP and was surprised by what I saw.  Abreu was 10 runs below average last season, which was only surprising in that I thought he would have been worse.  But Manny was actually slightly above average both on the Dodgers AND the Sox last season.  That astounded me.

Typically, as in from 2002 through 2007, Manny has been a below-average fielder.  In 2002-2005 he was over 10 runs below average, and in 2006 he was an incredible 22 runs below average.  That&#039;s just ridiculously bad.  

Obviously there are other fielding metrics out there, and some might be kinder to Manny.  And I had mistakenly assumed that 2008 Manny was just as bad as 2002-2006 Manny.  In fact, Manny&#039;s defense improved significantly in 2007-2008.  But Manny is on the wrong side of 35 and I think it&#039;s much more likely that we would see more of his horrible 2002-2006 defense than his passable 2007-2008 defense.  If we did get Bad Defense Manny, we&#039;d be getting a player whose glove is so bad that it could change our season for the worse.  And that has to be a serious concern when the player in question is demanding at least an $80 million commitment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>I looked up Abreu&#8217;s and Manny&#8217;s fielding numbers on BP and was surprised by what I saw.  Abreu was 10 runs below average last season, which was only surprising in that I thought he would have been worse.  But Manny was actually slightly above average both on the Dodgers AND the Sox last season.  That astounded me.</p>
<p>Typically, as in from 2002 through 2007, Manny has been a below-average fielder.  In 2002-2005 he was over 10 runs below average, and in 2006 he was an incredible 22 runs below average.  That&#8217;s just ridiculously bad.  </p>
<p>Obviously there are other fielding metrics out there, and some might be kinder to Manny.  And I had mistakenly assumed that 2008 Manny was just as bad as 2002-2006 Manny.  In fact, Manny&#8217;s defense improved significantly in 2007-2008.  But Manny is on the wrong side of 35 and I think it&#8217;s much more likely that we would see more of his horrible 2002-2006 defense than his passable 2007-2008 defense.  If we did get Bad Defense Manny, we&#8217;d be getting a player whose glove is so bad that it could change our season for the worse.  And that has to be a serious concern when the player in question is demanding at least an $80 million commitment.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenBeret7</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenBeret7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PAT M. 
December 16th, 2008 at 10:15 am 
Every piece written about Texeria re-signing with the Angels always has an attachment about the Yanks lurking in the shadows…..That was Ken Forsch’s comments a few weeks ago also during a round of golf at Peeble Beach…..Maybe they’re just waiting to see how everything goes and then they make a last minute pitch to Boras…..Who really knows for certain, Cashman plays this game of being coy rather well…...Pettite will come back for a year I believe….Split the difference 12-13 mil…..


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Morning,Pat.  Does Bob Forsch golf with you guys?  Those two brothers were outstanding pitchers.  

I saw where somebody let it slip that 21 mil a year wasn&#039;t enough to get Teixeira.  They maybe looking at close to Alex Rodriguez money.  I don&#039;t know who would have put that out.  It surely couldn&#039;t have been the normally close-lipped Boras.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PAT M.<br />
December 16th, 2008 at 10:15 am<br />
Every piece written about Texeria re-signing with the Angels always has an attachment about the Yanks lurking in the shadows…..That was Ken Forsch’s comments a few weeks ago also during a round of golf at Peeble Beach…..Maybe they’re just waiting to see how everything goes and then they make a last minute pitch to Boras…..Who really knows for certain, Cashman plays this game of being coy rather well…&#8230;Pettite will come back for a year I believe….Split the difference 12-13 mil…..</p>
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<p>Morning,Pat.  Does Bob Forsch golf with you guys?  Those two brothers were outstanding pitchers.  </p>
<p>I saw where somebody let it slip that 21 mil a year wasn&#8217;t enough to get Teixeira.  They maybe looking at close to Alex Rodriguez money.  I don&#8217;t know who would have put that out.  It surely couldn&#8217;t have been the normally close-lipped Boras.</p>
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		<title>By: ham fighters          Save Us Godzilla!!!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>ham fighters          Save Us Godzilla!!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so who knows the wbc plans of the yankees starters?  i know the yankees will take any excuse to try to keep a guy out of it, so i expect they wont allow wang to pitch for taiwan, but what about cc and aj?

personally i think the yankees should let them all pitch for thier wbc teams and let the ST crowds see just what we&#039;ve got working in scranton and trenton.  ok, sorry, somebody&#039;s gonna get stuck paying to watch igawa pitch, but hey, it&#039;s ST!  

all the better if they are all competing for a trip north and a rotation spot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so who knows the wbc plans of the yankees starters?  i know the yankees will take any excuse to try to keep a guy out of it, so i expect they wont allow wang to pitch for taiwan, but what about cc and aj?</p>
<p>personally i think the yankees should let them all pitch for thier wbc teams and let the ST crowds see just what we&#8217;ve got working in scranton and trenton.  ok, sorry, somebody&#8217;s gonna get stuck paying to watch igawa pitch, but hey, it&#8217;s ST!  </p>
<p>all the better if they are all competing for a trip north and a rotation spot!</p>
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		<title>By: GreenBeret7</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenBeret7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim Clougher 
December 16th, 2008 at 10:09 am 
GreenBeret7:

I really think Andy will sign..not sure how the $$ will shake out but I believe he will sign with us..


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He&#039;s certainly a safer and better short term option than anybody else on the market.  The only team taking a shot at Sheets will be a team desperate for starter to make a run at a division.  Texas will most likely bid the most, but, I think that Atlanta, Texas, St. Louis and maybe LA Dodgers take a run.  I&#039;m guessing that NYY will give Pettitte about another week, and, then go internally for a starter.  I can&#039;t imagine them wanting to close the last spot in the rotation up for the next 2-3 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Clougher<br />
December 16th, 2008 at 10:09 am<br />
GreenBeret7:</p>
<p>I really think Andy will sign..not sure how the $$ will shake out but I believe he will sign with us..</p>
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<p>He&#8217;s certainly a safer and better short term option than anybody else on the market.  The only team taking a shot at Sheets will be a team desperate for starter to make a run at a division.  Texas will most likely bid the most, but, I think that Atlanta, Texas, St. Louis and maybe LA Dodgers take a run.  I&#8217;m guessing that NYY will give Pettitte about another week, and, then go internally for a starter.  I can&#8217;t imagine them wanting to close the last spot in the rotation up for the next 2-3 years.</p>
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		<title>By: ham fighters          Save Us Godzilla!!!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>ham fighters          Save Us Godzilla!!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think everybody is looking past the fact that joba has to be the #5 b/c of his innings limits, so whoever takes the next starting spot is going to be a #4 and the yankees are going to need him every 5th day, not the bottom-of-the-pile guy you pass-over every time there&#039;s an off-day or rainout.  this is a significant difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think everybody is looking past the fact that joba has to be the #5 b/c of his innings limits, so whoever takes the next starting spot is going to be a #4 and the yankees are going to need him every 5th day, not the bottom-of-the-pile guy you pass-over every time there&#8217;s an off-day or rainout.  this is a significant difference.</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ham fighters,

I re-thunk that after I wrote it.  I guess I was picturing the banker/Bud Selig look.

BTW, if they don&#039;t sign Andy, I think they stay pat.  If Aceves has a good ST, he&#039;s the #5.  If and when Phil is blowing away AAA guys, he&#039;ll come up.  I&#039;d move Aceves to the bullpen to do long work.

Staying pat also leaves the door open for Andy.  Still don&#039;t think they&#039;re harboring bad feelings about the Mitchell Report.  If they were, they would&#039;ve just cut ties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ham fighters,</p>
<p>I re-thunk that after I wrote it.  I guess I was picturing the banker/Bud Selig look.</p>
<p>BTW, if they don&#8217;t sign Andy, I think they stay pat.  If Aceves has a good ST, he&#8217;s the #5.  If and when Phil is blowing away AAA guys, he&#8217;ll come up.  I&#8217;d move Aceves to the bullpen to do long work.</p>
<p>Staying pat also leaves the door open for Andy.  Still don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re harboring bad feelings about the Mitchell Report.  If they were, they would&#8217;ve just cut ties.</p>
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		<title>By: ham fighters          Save Us Godzilla!!!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>ham fighters          Save Us Godzilla!!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not that i have any fear that cash would sign manny but...

every day they put damon in CF and manny in LF, i&#039;d be looking for them to reprise the &quot;cut-off.&quot;

with damon&#039;s arm in CF, it might be thier best play...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not that i have any fear that cash would sign manny but&#8230;</p>
<p>every day they put damon in CF and manny in LF, i&#8217;d be looking for them to reprise the &#8220;cut-off.&#8221;</p>
<p>with damon&#8217;s arm in CF, it might be thier best play&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mel, That&#039;s what Henry wears when he reads his Beat poetry down in the Village.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mel, That&#8217;s what Henry wears when he reads his Beat poetry down in the Village.</p>
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		<title>By: ham fighters          Save Us Godzilla!!!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>ham fighters          Save Us Godzilla!!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not quite the Harvard professor look I pictured.&quot;

the frosted hair and mod glasses are new, but the sweater under a jacket is standard-issue professor garb.  wonder if the jacket had elbow patches.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not quite the Harvard professor look I pictured.&#8221;</p>
<p>the frosted hair and mod glasses are new, but the sweater under a jacket is standard-issue professor garb.  wonder if the jacket had elbow patches&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: PAT M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>PAT M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every piece written about Texeria re-signing with the Angels always has an attachment about the Yanks lurking in the shadows.....That was Ken Forsch&#039;s comments a few weeks ago also during a round of golf at Peeble Beach.....Maybe they&#039;re just waiting to see how everything goes and then they make a last minute pitch to Boras.....Who really knows for certain, Cashman plays this game of being coy rather well......Pettite will come back for a year I believe....Split the difference 12-13 mil.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every piece written about Texeria re-signing with the Angels always has an attachment about the Yanks lurking in the shadows&#8230;..That was Ken Forsch&#8217;s comments a few weeks ago also during a round of golf at Peeble Beach&#8230;..Maybe they&#8217;re just waiting to see how everything goes and then they make a last minute pitch to Boras&#8230;..Who really knows for certain, Cashman plays this game of being coy rather well&#8230;&#8230;Pettite will come back for a year I believe&#8230;.Split the difference 12-13 mil&#8230;..</p>
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