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The K-Man for Cameron? Really?

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Dec 15, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

A story in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel suggests the Yankees could get Mike Cameron for Melky Cabrera and Kei Igawa. Talks will resume today.

The Yankees could Laverne and Shirley for Kei Igawa for all it matters. If Brian Cashman can get Mike Cameron for what amounts to two AAA players, they should name the new Stadium after him.

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77 Responses to “The K-Man for Cameron? Really?”

  1. Al from BK( CC and A.J. Welcome to the Bronx!) December 15th, 2008 at 2:22 am

    Save the money and sign Tex.

  2. Phil December 15th, 2008 at 2:23 am

    Same article said they were busy with other things this weekend. Burnett was set Friday, so any guesses?

  3. Ed - CC and AJ are now Yanks!! Aj better stays healthy!!! December 15th, 2008 at 2:25 am

    to be honest, I’m gunna miss Melky when he leaves. :(

  4. Peter Abraham December 15th, 2008 at 2:28 am

    AL: You think you’re getting Tex for $10 million a year? Probably not.

  5. Ed - CC and AJ are now Yanks!! Aj better stays healthy!!! December 15th, 2008 at 2:30 am

    Pete, you think when Tex is signed, the market will shape up for Dunn?

  6. mel December 15th, 2008 at 2:33 am

    Phil,

    Presumably getting us another starter.

    Ed,

    Unless CC’s twirling a perfect game or tossing a no-hitter, I don’t want him pitching a complete game.

  7. TIDROW December 15th, 2008 at 2:34 am

    Yankees will live to regret the undervaluing of Melky. Cameron isn’t good enough for Cashman to totally give up on Cabrera. I could see if it were a DeJesus but Cameron? I think Cashman is too ecstatic about his recent aquisitions and he’s not really thinking this thing through. Cameron is a salary dump. Why are you giving up a switch hitting 24 yr. old outfielder with past success in the majors for a guy Milwaukee doesn’t even want. I just don’t get it.

  8. Dr. Cox December 15th, 2008 at 2:35 am

    I assume the “other thing” going on wold be Pettite, no?

  9. mel December 15th, 2008 at 2:37 am

    Pete,

    Don’t be silly, the money saved on Cameron will be our first lay-away payment for Teixeira.

    I’ll miss the Kei-man. And I’ll be very upset if he wins the Warren Spahn award in another uniform.

  10. Ed - CC and AJ are now Yanks!! Aj better stays healthy!!! December 15th, 2008 at 2:37 am

    Mel,

    I’m a bit confused with the statement.

  11. Mehdi da chest bumpa December 15th, 2008 at 2:39 am

    I agree, this would be a great deal for the Yankees. Other than that I got nothing.

  12. James December 15th, 2008 at 2:40 am

    I guess I’m out of my mind, but I don’t see how cameron is much of an upgrade over melky, especially at 10mill. Wherever the old melk man is playing right now he’s got a pretty good ave and even OBP, he’s got a plus arm and covers good ground without fear of the wall. I won’t go as far to say last year was a fluke and melky is going to hit 290, 25HR’s and 75 rbi’s but, I’d still rather keep him vs cameron + 10mill.

    what is it about mike cameron I’m missing?

  13. mel December 15th, 2008 at 2:43 am

    Sorry, Ed, I get you and Al mixed up all the time.

    That was @ Al. We don’t need CG’s from our guys. Only if they’re having a special game and they’re cruising along.

    Al from BK( CC and A.J. Welcome to the Bronx!)
    December 15th, 2008 at 2:21 am
    I’ll take the pitcher who is a year younger and the guy who regularly tosses CG’s.

  14. E-Man December 15th, 2008 at 2:43 am

    Arod’s going to have a fun season next year with no protection.

  15. mel December 15th, 2008 at 2:46 am

    James,

    Take a pick from the pile: He’s a vet, he’s a good guy, he’s CC’s friend, he has pop in his bat, he’s + however many games above Gardner, he’s a stop-gap for Jackson.

    I agree with you, we don’t absolutely have to get Cameron. But it looks like it’s headed that way.

  16. Nick in SF December 15th, 2008 at 2:47 am

    Hey, that’s between Arod and Maddona. They know the risks.

  17. mel December 15th, 2008 at 2:47 am

    E-man,

    Is that a new PSA campaign? That’s definitely the wrong kind of message.

  18. Ed - CC and AJ are now Yanks!! Aj better stays healthy!!! December 15th, 2008 at 2:48 am

    Mel,

    oh okay…

  19. Al from BK( CC and A.J. Welcome to the Bronx!) December 15th, 2008 at 2:48 am

    Mel- You’re right I suppose the Yanks would be wise to not ride CC like a rented mule.

    Peter- I am just letting off steam about Tex. I am very satisfied with the off-season I am just fretting about the offense.

  20. PreteFunkEra December 15th, 2008 at 2:55 am

    Any ideas what numbers the new Yankees will be wearing?

  21. John December 15th, 2008 at 2:56 am

    I’m not a huge fan of Cameron, but he is an upgrade to Melky. I don’t know what anbody liked about his game. He was good (not great, despite some people’s belief otherwise) in the field with a plus arm in center. His range was only average. At the plate, he never seems to go up with a plan, he just hacks away and when then he never seems to be on time to the ball, he’s always late. He wasn’t particularly strong on the bases, and he was never going to turn into somebody who was a double-digit homerun guy each year in the AL east.

    CAmeron makes sense because it clears Igawa’s salary off the books, it helps CC acclimate to the Bronx, it’s a one year position holder for AJax and he adds much more pop to the lineup than anybody else the Yankees could get will.

    I am concerned about the Yankees lineup still. It’s filled with guys who hit .240 and 20-25 home runs but nobody who hits for average and gets on base (Jeter would qualify but he doesn’t walk enough). Regardless, this lineup should be able to provide enough runs for this rotation if everybody stays healthy.

  22. mel December 15th, 2008 at 2:59 am

    Trading Melky is definitely a plus to the deal. Very difficult to find takers for a 4th OF. They’re a dime a dozen, just like AAAA pitchers and fringe relievers.

  23. Al from BK( CC and A.J. Welcome to the Bronx!) December 15th, 2008 at 3:05 am

    Funkera- I would suppose CC wears 52 since its not taken and AJ will just have to pick out of a hat ;)

  24. gianthinker December 15th, 2008 at 3:07 am

    Guys Teixeira is a big investment. IF Ca$hman decides to get involved in the Teixeira sweepstakes, Cameron’s $10M WONT affect it AT ALL. You’re talking about a contact that will be expiring at the end of the year, joining something like $30M that will also come off the books next off-season. The point is, if Ca$hman’s going to make a huge investment in ANY kind of player $10M in NOT going to hold him back. That could go for Teixeira, CC, etc. It doesn’t matter who it is. If you’re making a long term investment and you feel like you have to sign the guy you don’t let the difference from $190M and $200M stop you from getting your guy. All that being said, I do hope Ca$hman continues to sit back and then makes a late run at Tex because he’d greatly strengthen us offensively AND defensively. We’d probably have to trade Matsui, Damon or Nady because Swisher would have to go to a corner OF spot (I’d pray we trade Damon) in order to take Teixeira on but with Boston hot on his trail hopefully we wont let that stop us.

    As far as Cameron goes, if we can get him for Melky and Igawa we absolutely HAVE TO. I know he strikes out a lot but he’s an upgrade defensively and he can play in NY. One year of dealing with his K’s and paying $10M for him is a lot but he doesn’t hit into double plays so I think it’s worth it for what he’ll bring to our lineup. The fact he’s a good friend of CC’s and a former team mate of Arod is just a bonus. They’ve asked about Igawa before so I’m not surprised this might happen. I brought it up before but Igawa is a touchy subject. He’s obviously a bad investment from the Yanks perspective but IMO he can pitch in the NL. He just doesn’t have the stuff or the mental strength for NY, the AL East and/or maybe the AL all together. If Melky could hit we wouldn’t be talking about this but as a result he’s nothing more than a major league 4th OF or a starting AAA center fielder. Maybe if he’s sent to MIL he’ll get some regular playing time without the spotlight on him and he’ll develop. He’s been given the max time allowed in NY to put it together and now its time for a change. Both Austin Jackson and Brett Gardner need more time to develop in the minors. Bringing in Cameron gives you a guy with faults but it also brings you a guy who will make a few plays for you, and most importantly, someone who is a regular MLB center fielder. IF it can be done, DO THIS DEAL CA$HMAN!!!

  25. Ed - CC and AJ are now Yanks!! Aj better stays healthy!!! December 15th, 2008 at 3:13 am

    Al,

    Marte will most likely go back to 43 since Rasner isn’t here anymore, and he wore 43 throughout his career. Eiland wore #52 last season, and he will give it to CC during the introductions on Wednesday. :)

  26. james December 15th, 2008 at 3:13 am

    James and I have more in common than just our names. Save the 10 million dollars and let Melky and Gardner compete for time. Cameron doesn’t play center like he used to for the Mariners, we saw that when he played for the Mets and that was a while ago and he strikes out way to much. Or better yet Cash rebuilt the farm system so it’s time to trade for a player who isn’t for sale and fix the problem once and for all. Ajax and Phil Hughes for Curtis Granderson or dare to dream Grady Sizemore.

  27. Jobatheheat December 15th, 2008 at 3:19 am

    Mel could not agree with you more about Cameron for Melky. From what i understand Gardner has the higher ceiling so why keep both him and Melky. I like Melky but Why have two under performing CFers when we can trade one for a deff. Also if we include Igawa thats great because thats like basicaly evening out the 10 mil a year forCameron.probaly why we wanted the Brewers to pick up some of Camerons contract.=The Yankees know Arod has no protection in the lineup and are now going to fix that problem. Probaly the only reason will give them Igawa to.

  28. John December 15th, 2008 at 3:20 am

    james – AJax and Hughes for one of those two players would be an absolutely terrible deal. All indications that I’ve heard are that AJax is just learning to become a baseball player instead of an athlete in the last year or so. Another year of seasoning with this newfound skill could make him a legitimate all-star for a decade. And why are you so ready to give up Hughes? Why do you think the Yankees want Pettitte back for one year – give Hughes the extra year in the minors that they took from him a couple of years ago and that spot in the rotation is his in 2010. He’s 22 years old and he is still projects to a legitimate #2 starter. You don’t just give those away along with your best position prospect, even if it is for a very good player.

  29. blee December 15th, 2008 at 3:21 am

    If that report is true…

    Shhhhhhh!.. they might hear you pAbe.

  30. Phil December 15th, 2008 at 3:21 am

    The thing about getting Cameron is that he gives the Yanks an average or better hitter in CF. Last year having below average bats like Melky and Gardner in CF were killers. As was having Molina, Moeller and the Yankee version of IRod hitting so often. If everyone is at least average they are not taking away from the value of the above average hitters you have. You’re getting to keep all of their positive contributions.

  31. gianthinker December 15th, 2008 at 3:22 am

    As far as FA center fielder options I was hoping we might look at Rocco Baldelli. He’d bring some power and he’s 27. I know he’s got some sickness that makes him tired but Damon/Swisher/Whatever Rookie could give him days off every once in a while. Now I know the benefit for Cameron is he’ll only be a year rental and not hold AJax or Gardner back but IMO Baldelli could serve the same purpose. We’ll be losing our entire OF next off-season so we could afford to sign Baldelli to a 3-4 year deal and simply move him to a corner spot when our youngsters are ready. What do you guys think?

  32. mel December 15th, 2008 at 3:24 am

    If Hughes didn’t go for Johan Santana (we could’ve gotten it done if we really wanted to), then he’s not going for anyone else.

    We have organizational depth where we can pick and choose who we want to protect.

    Kennedy, Veras, Ramirez will be the next to go after Igawa.

  33. Ed - CC and AJ are now Yanks!! Aj better stays healthy!!! December 15th, 2008 at 3:30 am

    before I end my night:

    If the Yankees exit the Teixeira bidding, newly acquired Nick Swisher would get the first-base job. They could then move on to Ramirez, who would have a higher annual salary but probably require less years on a deal, and **shop Xavier Nady**, who made $3.35 million in 2008 and is eligible for free agency after the 2009 season.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....;fext=.jsp

    —————

    I would rather sign Dunn than Manny. The short right porch will do Dunn good.

    Since the Reds are **desperately** looking for a right handed bat, trade Nady for Jeff Keppinger + prospects. The Reds and Yanks would be good match. The bench could look like this: Keppinger, Ransom (he could play both corner OF as well), Molina, and a 4th OFer.

  34. GreenBeret7 December 15th, 2008 at 3:38 am

    mel
    December 15th, 2008 at 3:24 am
    If Hughes didn’t go for Johan Santana (we could’ve gotten it done if we really wanted to), then he’s not going for anyone else.

    We have organizational depth where we can pick and choose who we want to protect.

    Kennedy, Veras, Ramirez will be the next to go after Igawa.

    ————————————————————

    If NYY signs Pettitte to a one year deal, then dealing Kennedy would be easier to do. Right now, he’s probably the #7 starter in the system behind Aceves and Hughes if something happens. Horne won’t be ready any time soon. Ramirez or Veras are good bets to go in a deal for more than just a utility player. What would they bring? Hard to say, but, a lot of teams could be interested in a deal like that to help rebuild a pitching staff. Hughes isn’t going anywhere, though. Pettitte is most likely the key as to whether Kennedy stays past this winter.

  35. back bench December 15th, 2008 at 3:39 am

    This was posted over at RAB in case anyone missed it. What do you think of this idea?

    “Matt12 says:

    December 15th, 2008 at 12:59 am
    Personally, I love Matsui. I think he is one of the truest baseball players around. And I’d be looking at him as a first base option (considering he said was open to it) rather than trading him away in the event we signed Manny (whom I only would approve of if it was strictly as the DH).

    LF – Damon
    SS – Jeter
    3B – Rodriguez
    DH – Ramirez
    1B – Matsui
    C – Posada
    RF – Nady
    2B – Cano
    CF – Swisher/Gardner/Melky

    That would seem to be a better plan than just dropping Matsui. We could do the exact same thing with Adam Dunn, using him as the DH with Matsui as the 1B. And if we sign Mark Teixeira instead of Manny, same thing except obviously having Matsui as the DH and Teixeira as the 1B.

    Some might question Matsui’s ability to move to first base, but I personally think he is the kind of player that works his ass off to become at the very least average. Anybody else remember when he APOLOGIZED to the team for breaking his wrist? He isn’t your average baseball player, he is a big time team player. He can do what Sheffield couldn’t, and become a solid first baseman.”

  36. Mario December 15th, 2008 at 3:39 am

    I think they should go for peavy. you need all the pitching you can get, and you just hope that the guys in front of A-rod will get on base so they can pitch to him. Pitching wins championships. And I think Cameron would be a good pickup, i personally have never been a fan of melky, he just doesnt look comfortable at the plate, and after cameron’s year is done, bring on Austin Jackson.

  37. Thomas December 15th, 2008 at 3:40 am

    I’ve been hearing from lots of Yankees fans about how they DON’T want this trade to happen…. that they DON’T want to trade Melky…

    I don’t get it.

    Melky is NOT good… in any way. Yeah he’s young but if you can get Cameron for him AND get rid of Igawa??

    GET IT DONE!

  38. Mario December 15th, 2008 at 3:43 am

    Peavy and Adrian Gonzales for Hughes, kennedy, jackson, and miranda

  39. GreenBeret7 December 15th, 2008 at 3:44 am

    If NYY fans on Teixeira or doesn’t make a bid for him, perhaps the NYYs could deal Kennedy, Ramirez, Veras and cash to Pittsburgh for Adam LaRoche and Jose Tabata. Deal Nady for prospects to Cincinnati, Cubs or Seattle.

  40. james December 15th, 2008 at 3:44 am

    John giving up on? I would be getting Grady Sizemore or Curtis Granderson and they are much better than “good” they are foundation pieces. That’s why you would make the deal. BTW Ajax is yet show or sniff the major leagues much so even suggesting that he could be “10 year all star” well all I can say is slow down. Also you say it’s a terrible deal and I agree with you there is no way it would be enough we would have to give at least two more real prospects to maybe get it done.
    gianthinker Rocco’s Mitochondrial Myopathy would only let him play twice a week at most and it’s progressive so it will get worse but I’d still bring him in if we don’t trade for a Center Fielder so we would at least know twice a week we’d have an All Star level Player out there.

  41. Jon December 15th, 2008 at 3:54 am

    Why do I get the feeling that Igawa will become their ace and Melky a .300 plus hitter with at least 20 home runs. It seems that when people praise the Yankees for the moves they make it comes back to bite them. Pavano (yes everyone once praised the Yanks for signing him), trading for I-Rod and Randy, signing Krazy Kyle or Giambi. It seems when people aren’t happy about or aren’t excited about the trades thats when we do well. (Abreu, Mussina, Nady,)

  42. Al from BK December 15th, 2008 at 4:20 am

    “Peavy and Adrian Gonzales for Hughes, kennedy, jackson, and miranda”

    Brilliant! lets trade Montero, Romine, Betances and Melancon while were at it.

  43. Viper December 15th, 2008 at 4:29 am

    Jake Peavy?

    Puh-leeze.

    Why would any Yankee fan want this club to target another pitcher who is signed through 2012 when they already have four under their control (Sabathia, Burnett, Wang, and Joba).

    Trading for Peavy would not be very cost-effective and would block their own prospects from a rotation spot for at least the next three years (when Sabathia could opt out and Wang becomes a FA).

  44. Alvin December 15th, 2008 at 4:45 am

    “I’ve been hearing from lots of Yankees fans about how they DON’T want this trade to happen…. that they DON’T want to trade Melky…

    I don’t get it.

    Melky is NOT good… in any way. Yeah he’s young but if you can get Cameron for him AND get rid of Igawa??

    GET IT DONE!”

    ———————————————

    It’s mostly because people want Tex/Manny and getting Cameron basically puts an end to those hopes.

  45. SFBrando December 15th, 2008 at 4:47 am

    im reasonable. i realize we arent getting tex or manny. but im still not sold on cameron v melk/gardner.

  46. Alvin December 15th, 2008 at 4:54 am

    SFBrando,

    I wasn’t sure about it when it was just Cameron for Melky because of the $10 mil thing. But if we give them Igawa we’d actually gain money on the deal since Igawa was basically costing us a bunch of money over the next few years, for nothing.

  47. SFBrando December 15th, 2008 at 5:07 am

    Alvin,

    Losing that contract is great. but i just dont like getting older with cameron. his range was diminished with the mets, and that was 2 years ago. i like gardner alot, so i dont mind letting melk go if it gets him some more pt. im still just real iffy on cameron, even if it dosent really cost 10 mil. The only real hole in he lineup is the 4 spot and cameron certainly cant help us there. i would like 2 see them make a play 4 dunn if the market 4 him falls apart.

  48. Doreen December 15th, 2008 at 7:41 am

    Getting Cameron, an older established player, for one year is actually a good idea. If it was longer term, not so much. But the Yankees aren’t building their future around Cameron – they’re using Cameron as place holder for either Austin Jackson or another younger player who may be available next season (Crawford?). Neither Melky nor Gardner is good enough offensively, especially with the lineup as currently constructed, to play every day. If they had to, sure, they could make do with either one. But Cameron gives them a bit more power, good defense, and a nice veteran presence.

    I think people shouldn’t worry about Cameron messing up the Yankees plans to get younger. They are getting younger overall, but it’s a step-by-step process, not a huge overhaul.

  49. pat December 15th, 2008 at 8:00 am

    Pete’s being way too complimentary of Cash lately and I’m a Cash supporter.

  50. JOJO December 15th, 2008 at 8:07 am

    “Why do I get the feeling that Igawa will become their ace and Melky a .300 plus hitter with at least 20 home runs.” – Jon

    You must not watch baseball at all. With this reasoning the Yankees should not let anyone go. I guess we should have kept Rasner too because he’ll probably win 20 games in Japan. Ridiculous.

  51. 86w183 December 15th, 2008 at 8:21 am

    The thing about the Cameron deal is the Yanks can “rest” him 2X a week against righties and give Gardner those starts. It will make Cameron more productive because he’s better against LHP and keeps Gardner active.

    Anyone mentioning Peavey at this stage should be forced to listen to Slim Whitman’s greatest hits for 24 hours straight.

    Adam Dunn still intrigues me with his power and OBP. I wonder if being on a winner would bring out the best in a guy who sometimes seemed to be disinterested on a team that enver contends. You could fashion a decent OF/1B/DH rotation with Dunn, Matsui, Damon, Nady, Swisher, Cameron and Gardner… seven guys for five jobs leaves two very capable players on the bench.

  52. Bobby December 15th, 2008 at 8:41 am

    Let’s not give Cashman too much credit. Remember back in August 07, the Padres claimed Igawa off waivers and Cashman pulled him back because he wanted someone in return. We could’ve been rid of that salary a year and a half ago if he wasn’t so stubborn.

  53. Nettles Punched Bill Lee December 15th, 2008 at 9:06 am

    While getting rid of Igawa is tempting, paying an additional $10M for Cameron isn’t worth it.

    The Ex Met is not $10M better than Melky.

  54. Anthony December 15th, 2008 at 9:17 am

    If we get Tex, we’ve got to trade Nady or Swisher. If we get Manny, we’ve got to trade Matsui or Damon. I think George King is wrong about trading Nady in the event that we get Manny since he and Swisher are the only ones we have who can play RF.

  55. Dan L in nj December 15th, 2008 at 9:28 am

    I hope we don’t get Cameron as he is a terribly flawed player he really does not help the Yankees. Please get Cody Ross instead.

  56. 86w183 December 15th, 2008 at 9:34 am

    Damon and Matsui are essentially untradeable with their $ 13 million salaries. It certainly looks like Pettite and Cameron will round out the roster. If that’s the case the off-season has been a very positive one, but I stil want a better bat than what Cameron offers.

    What about Eckstein as a middle insfield reserve?

  57. Tony C December 15th, 2008 at 9:53 am

    Stay away from Manny! Poison! I’m a lifelong Yankees fan living in Western Mass. and watched first hand how Manny went from walking on water to public enemy number one in one season. I’m surrounded by die-hard Sox fans who used to think Manny’s antics were funny. By the end of last season they finally lost the rose-colored glasses and saw him for the spoiled, selfish, dope he is. The Yanks don’t need that type of player.

  58. Jim C December 15th, 2008 at 10:12 am

    Not sure why we would want Cameron over Melky. You will have to pay Cameron’s salary when you could keep Melky and pay his $400k salary. Sure Melky had a terrible year last year but he was a .275 batter in the 2 years prior. He has a cannon for an arm and can cover enough ground in center. Essentially you are trading Melky away to get 1 year out of Cameron before Austin is ready. Deal doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.

  59. Mr. Pettitte, sign that contract!!! December 15th, 2008 at 10:28 am

    I would rather sign Dunn than Manny. The short right porch will do Dunn good.

    Since the Reds are desperately looking for a right handed bat, trade Nady for Jeff Keppinger + prospects. The Reds and Yanks would be good match. The bench could look like this: Keppinger, Ransom (he could play both corner OF as well), Molina, and a 4th OFer.

    ——

    Dunn is not a solution when you are concerned about strikeouts.

  60. jimmy1138 December 15th, 2008 at 10:52 am

    @JOJO:
    Guess who the last guy (before Iwakuma’s 21 wins in 2008) was to win 20 or more games in Japan?
    Kei Igawa in 2003.
    Winning 20 games is hard in the major leagues. In Japan with less games and a 6 man rotation it’s even harder.

  61. 86w183 December 15th, 2008 at 10:56 am

    They better be damn good prospects. You don’t trade a proven hitter (Nady) for a utility guy (Keppinger).

    The price for Cody Ross would be a lot more than for Cameron, but I agree he’s a better player.

    I’d rather guys who don’t strike out too, but the Yanks are going to be a high strike out team either way. Dunn in the Stadium surronded by quality bats could really be something. He’s a poor OF. but DH is available after a year so you could grin and bear it and use Melky (if here) or Gardner for late innings.

  62. manny(yanksfan) December 15th, 2008 at 11:01 am

    So where is the conference to introduce CC going to be held at? New Stadium or Old Stadium

  63. pounder December 15th, 2008 at 11:05 am

    What about Jeremy Hermida ?Available…yes.Look into it please Brian.

  64. Boston Dave December 15th, 2008 at 11:08 am

    does anybody think the Rays are going to decline Carl Crawford’s option next season?

    I’ve seen his name countless times as a guy the Yankees might sign next offseason. It’s not going to happen. He is not going to be a free agent.

    Forget about it.

  65. Boston Dave December 15th, 2008 at 11:12 am

    Cameron for Melky and Igawa (with the Brewers picking up even 1/3 of his contract) is a STEAL.

  66. gianthinker December 15th, 2008 at 11:43 am

    I’ll say it again, Cameron’s $10M will not stop Ca$hman from getting Teixeira or Manny. Stop being ridiculous. Everyone is taking Ca$hman at his exact word that we wont be higher in payroll. Right now thats true but a few million are not going to sway the Yanks from getting their man. If the Yanks trade for Cameron and choose not to jump in on Tex or Manny it will have NOTHING TO DO WITH CAMERON. George uses $10M to wipe his butt….give me a break.

  67. gianthinker December 15th, 2008 at 11:49 am

    You guys realize Ca$hman has said he’s lower pay roll EVERY off-season. That includes the ones he’s spent big in. Going a little over his goal number for one season will not stop him from making the moves he wants to make. He might not make another move but it wont be because the Yanks are strapped and cant spend because of a $10M contract. Not to mention that Cameron makes $10M and Igawa makes $4M a year so Cameron will only cost us $6M. Ca$hman wont be swayed from signing a major talent like Teixeira or Manny over a mere $6M. It’s more likely that he decides Manny is a cancer and that Tex is getting to many years to get seriously involved. Money wont be what keeps us from signing either one of them.

  68. gianthinker December 15th, 2008 at 11:52 am

    Carl Crawford is one of my favorite OF in baseball period but the Rays would be crazy to let him go. I’m sure that Ca$hman would be interested if he did become a FA but I’d think he’ll stick around Tampa for another 2-3 years before they move a younger guy into his LF spot.

  69. gianthinker December 15th, 2008 at 11:53 am

    As far as FA center fielder options I was hoping we might look at Rocco Baldelli. He’d bring some power and he’s 27. I know he’s got some sickness that makes him tired but Damon/Swisher/Whatever Rookie could give him days off every once in a while. Now I know the benefit for Cameron is he’ll only be a year rental and not hold AJax or Gardner back but IMO Baldelli could serve the same purpose. We’ll be losing our entire OF next off-season so we could afford to sign Baldelli to a 3-4 year deal and simply move him to a corner spot when our youngsters are ready. What do you guys think?

  70. Marcus December 15th, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    For everyone clamoring that we need Tex or Manny, wasn’t this middle of the order good enough to win several championships when combined with outstanding pitching?

    3 – Paul O’Neill
    4 – Bernie Williams
    5 – Tino Martinez

    Good, even great, ballplayers, but not a hall-of-famer in the bunch. I’m not sold on our current lineup yet, but I don’t see the need for another mega-contract to complete it.

  71. michael in sd December 15th, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    sign giambi to play 4-5 days a week. dont trade for cameron. start gardner in center.

  72. Zod December 15th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    I will miss him sitting next to me charting pitchers here in Scranton. He was also a very good first base coach for us, well worth 42 mil.

  73. AeroFANatic December 15th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    I say sign Dunn, 2 yrs at 25 million, put in LF. We can live with Damon in CF and Nady in RF for one more year. The lineup would then look like this:

    CF – Damon
    SS – Jeter
    DH – Matsui
    3B – Rodriguez
    LF – Dunn
    RF – Nady
    2B – Cano
    C – Posada
    1B – Swisher

    Pretty balanced lineup, and instead of bringing Cameron over for 10 mil…we essentially get that above lineup for 2-3 mil more.

    Next year, Jackson takes over for Damon in CF and Holliday can take over for Nady in RF with Dunn in his final year in LF.

  74. Mike McCann December 15th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Why do the Yankees want to get older, slower and less athletic. Mike Cameron is 36, not 31. In our post-steroid, post-amphetamine era, he is not going to prove as durable as the younger Cabrera or Brett Gardner. Why would a team laden with 34-and-old starters (A-Rod, Jeter, Damo, Matsui, Posada) want to add another aging player whose speed and range will diminish — and, in the arguably easier National League, hit a meager .243 with over 140 strikeouts last season (and who averages 158 k’s a year!)??

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