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		<title>By: Arliss</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/22/chamberlain-lester-to-give-talk/comment-page-5/#comment-624284</link>
		<dc:creator>Arliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trisha - Prove to me how manny makes a team worse.  Once someone can do that, then they can garner some credibility.  Name a team that is worse with Manny on it. Not such an easy task when we are discussing the best pure hitter in baseball and possibly in the history of baseball.  
Wow, Manny moved from RF to LF, then went on to drive in 850+ runs in 7 and a half seasons in Boston while playing for a fan and ownership base he hated.  How about Pedro Martinez, that greedy scumbag, can you believe what he did to those poor red sox? How about that villain Johnny damon who left them for more money? How about that jerk Nomar who quit on them?  All these player feuds with ownership yet the finger always gets pointed squarely at the player.  
How about Mr Torre, did he say Manny made his team worse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trisha &#8211; Prove to me how manny makes a team worse.  Once someone can do that, then they can garner some credibility.  Name a team that is worse with Manny on it. Not such an easy task when we are discussing the best pure hitter in baseball and possibly in the history of baseball.<br />
Wow, Manny moved from RF to LF, then went on to drive in 850+ runs in 7 and a half seasons in Boston while playing for a fan and ownership base he hated.  How about Pedro Martinez, that greedy scumbag, can you believe what he did to those poor red sox? How about that villain Johnny damon who left them for more money? How about that jerk Nomar who quit on them?  All these player feuds with ownership yet the finger always gets pointed squarely at the player.<br />
How about Mr Torre, did he say Manny made his team worse?</p>
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		<title>By: Erik A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Drs. Cox, Kelso, and Dorian be there as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Drs. Cox, Kelso, and Dorian be there as well?</p>
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		<title>By: ray (sox fan)</title>
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		<dc:creator>ray (sox fan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I have hit the big time...I have an imposter.   None of the earlier posts by my name are mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I have hit the big time&#8230;I have an imposter.   None of the earlier posts by my name are mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Yankee Trader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yankee Trader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Teixeira, tying him up for 8 years  doesn&#039;t make a lot of sense for us at a position where we don&#039;t have our greatest need. In all honesty, with Boston&#039;s lineup, he IMO doesn&#039;t serve a need for them, unless Lowell&#039;s career is over.

Here&#039;s hoping that the Nationals offer him the largest contract and he signs with them. Picking in the top two in the draft the next couple years might make them the Tampa Bay Rays equivalent, at least for the second half of Teixera&#039;s contract.

Of the big hitters left in FA, all but Teixeira are DH&#039;s-Burrell, Abreu, Dunn, Giambi, Bradley, and Manny. If Bradley were healthy, and could stay healthy and &quot;sane&quot; he&#039;s the one player who could possibly play in RF.

I&#039;ll be quite surprised if the Yankees come in at the last minute to get Teixeira, UNLESS, he tells Boras he only wants to be a Yankee and is willing to be creative when it comes to a contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Teixeira, tying him up for 8 years  doesn&#8217;t make a lot of sense for us at a position where we don&#8217;t have our greatest need. In all honesty, with Boston&#8217;s lineup, he IMO doesn&#8217;t serve a need for them, unless Lowell&#8217;s career is over.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping that the Nationals offer him the largest contract and he signs with them. Picking in the top two in the draft the next couple years might make them the Tampa Bay Rays equivalent, at least for the second half of Teixera&#8217;s contract.</p>
<p>Of the big hitters left in FA, all but Teixeira are DH&#8217;s-Burrell, Abreu, Dunn, Giambi, Bradley, and Manny. If Bradley were healthy, and could stay healthy and &#8220;sane&#8221; he&#8217;s the one player who could possibly play in RF.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be quite surprised if the Yankees come in at the last minute to get Teixeira, UNLESS, he tells Boras he only wants to be a Yankee and is willing to be creative when it comes to a contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Yankee Trader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yankee Trader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manny-
Would only offer  series of one year contracts, with a &quot;termination for cause&quot; clause, well defined in the contract. Would start with a lower offer, with a list of incentives, to keep him reaching for the carrot.
Only position is DH, especially in Yankee stadium.
Now if he is signed, where, realistically would Matsui approve a trade to,[Japan?] or does he become an expensive utility player?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manny-<br />
Would only offer  series of one year contracts, with a &#8220;termination for cause&#8221; clause, well defined in the contract. Would start with a lower offer, with a list of incentives, to keep him reaching for the carrot.<br />
Only position is DH, especially in Yankee stadium.<br />
Now if he is signed, where, realistically would Matsui approve a trade to,[Japan?] or does he become an expensive utility player?</p>
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		<title>By: trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY!</title>
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		<dc:creator>trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You guys read the Boston Globe and Herald way too much.&quot;

And you didn&#039;t watch Manny far enough.

&quot;For the Anti-Mannys’, press and fan alike,the only things that matter are Manny’s last two months in Boston.&quot;

Actually no, Arliss.  We are also counting what Manny did when he left Cleveland and came to Boston.  He signed on to play rightfield and then told the Sox he wouldn&#039;t play right.  When they forced him to go out in right field during spring training, he &quot;pulled a hamstring&quot; and took himself out of the game.  Then he was seen walking around the dugout without any kind of limp.

Perhaps you should REALLY get to know about Manny Ramirez and his nonstop antics before you criticize those who DO know more than you about Manny and aren&#039;t pleased with his behavior.

Tim Clougher is a poster who knows all about Manny and still wants him.  That I can respect and understand.  Those who come on and try to make a case for him obviously knowing only a fraction of what he is all about just make themselves look downright silly.  Stop putting people down when you don&#039;t know a quarter of the reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You guys read the Boston Globe and Herald way too much.&#8221;</p>
<p>And you didn&#8217;t watch Manny far enough.</p>
<p>&#8220;For the Anti-Mannys’, press and fan alike,the only things that matter are Manny’s last two months in Boston.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually no, Arliss.  We are also counting what Manny did when he left Cleveland and came to Boston.  He signed on to play rightfield and then told the Sox he wouldn&#8217;t play right.  When they forced him to go out in right field during spring training, he &#8220;pulled a hamstring&#8221; and took himself out of the game.  Then he was seen walking around the dugout without any kind of limp.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should REALLY get to know about Manny Ramirez and his nonstop antics before you criticize those who DO know more than you about Manny and aren&#8217;t pleased with his behavior.</p>
<p>Tim Clougher is a poster who knows all about Manny and still wants him.  That I can respect and understand.  Those who come on and try to make a case for him obviously knowing only a fraction of what he is all about just make themselves look downright silly.  Stop putting people down when you don&#8217;t know a quarter of the reality.</p>
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		<title>By: ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Manny has tons of precedent.  Did you watch him?  He was a monster running out fly balls, patrolling the outfield like a gamer, wasn&#039;t he?  I really liked all those years of him watching his hitting prowess from the batter&#039;s box - oops, that wasn&#039;t a home run?  Please don&#039;t mistake him for a great player.  He&#039;s a hitting savant.  When he wants to be.  And if that is what you want, like I said, good for you.  No worries.  You&#039;re not going to convince me of his great work ethic, as if he was forced to behave badly by the big bad Boston machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Manny has tons of precedent.  Did you watch him?  He was a monster running out fly balls, patrolling the outfield like a gamer, wasn&#8217;t he?  I really liked all those years of him watching his hitting prowess from the batter&#8217;s box &#8211; oops, that wasn&#8217;t a home run?  Please don&#8217;t mistake him for a great player.  He&#8217;s a hitting savant.  When he wants to be.  And if that is what you want, like I said, good for you.  No worries.  You&#8217;re not going to convince me of his great work ethic, as if he was forced to behave badly by the big bad Boston machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Chester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brian

It actually seems to me like the media is MORE interested in Manny going to the Yanks than anything. They jumped on the story out of the Dominican newspaper, and none seem to be following up with the fact that it was denied by Cashman. Manny to the Yankees makes for a better story, and the media always goes with the story.

I still don&#039;t think they&#039;re going to get Manny. Go ahead and look at our offensive stats last year; they&#039;re not as bad as you&#039;d think. I think the unpleasantness stemming from a third place finish has colored our perceptions. I remember those 2-1 losses as well as anybody... but maybe they actually happen every year and we only noticed this time because we didn&#039;t make the playoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brian</p>
<p>It actually seems to me like the media is MORE interested in Manny going to the Yanks than anything. They jumped on the story out of the Dominican newspaper, and none seem to be following up with the fact that it was denied by Cashman. Manny to the Yankees makes for a better story, and the media always goes with the story.</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re going to get Manny. Go ahead and look at our offensive stats last year; they&#8217;re not as bad as you&#8217;d think. I think the unpleasantness stemming from a third place finish has colored our perceptions. I remember those 2-1 losses as well as anybody&#8230; but maybe they actually happen every year and we only noticed this time because we didn&#8217;t make the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: arial</title>
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		<dc:creator>arial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arliss,

For the Anti-Mannys&#039;, press and fan alike,the only things that matter are Manny&#039;s last two months in Boston. The preceding 14 plus years or so, are totally irrelevant. He is a BUM!!!!! The precipitating events be damned..they do not count&quot;. Neither does the hell-hole of Red Sox Nation, particularly its ownership element, past and present, and consistent shameful history of dealing with it&#039;s fallen stars.

Plain and simple, Manny is a bum!!! He is despicable, not worthy of wearing the hallowed pinstripes with the interlocking NY, that that esteemed man of virtue, The Babe
wore with pride and honor (when sober) and established the sacred precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arliss,</p>
<p>For the Anti-Mannys&#8217;, press and fan alike,the only things that matter are Manny&#8217;s last two months in Boston. The preceding 14 plus years or so, are totally irrelevant. He is a BUM!!!!! The precipitating events be damned..they do not count&#8221;. Neither does the hell-hole of Red Sox Nation, particularly its ownership element, past and present, and consistent shameful history of dealing with it&#8217;s fallen stars.</p>
<p>Plain and simple, Manny is a bum!!! He is despicable, not worthy of wearing the hallowed pinstripes with the interlocking NY, that that esteemed man of virtue, The Babe<br />
wore with pride and honor (when sober) and established the sacred precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Once he decided not to play&quot;?  It was during the season.  There were games being played.  He was under contract.  He doesn&#039;t get that choice.  What happens if he&#039;s a Yankee and decides &quot;not to play?&quot;  You really want this guy so badly that you can convince yourself that this is OK?  Wow.  Good for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Once he decided not to play&#8221;?  It was during the season.  There were games being played.  He was under contract.  He doesn&#8217;t get that choice.  What happens if he&#8217;s a Yankee and decides &#8220;not to play?&#8221;  You really want this guy so badly that you can convince yourself that this is OK?  Wow.  Good for you!</p>
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