Yankees avoid arbitration with Wang
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The Yankees have signed Chien-Ming Wang for $5 million for 2009, avoiding arbitration. Here’s the release:
The New York Yankees announced today that they have signed right-handed pitcher Chien-Ming Wang to a one-year contract for $5 million, avoiding arbitration.
Wang, 28, was 8-2 with a 4.07 ERA in 15 starts for the Yankees in 2008 before being placed on the disabled list on June 17 for the remainder of the season with a mid-foot sprain of the Lisfranc ligament and a partial tear of the peroneal longus tendon in his right foot. He began the season 6-0, including a 5-0 mark in April, and was the Yankees’ Opening Day starter in the final season opener at Yankee Stadium on April 1, defeating Toronto, 3-2.
Despite missing most of the 2008 season, Wang’s 46 wins since 2006 are tied for the third-most in the American League and eighth-most in the Majors. His .754 combined winning percentage over the last three seasons (2006-08) is the second-highest in the Majors behind Boston’s Jon Lester (.771, 27-8). He recorded back-to-back seasons with 19 wins in 2006 and 2007, becoming the first Yankee to win as many games in each of two consecutive seasons since Tommy John in 1979-80.
On April 22, 2008, in his 85th career start, Wang became the third-fastest Major League pitcher in the last 50 years to reach 50 career wins behind Dwight Gooden (82nd start) and the Yankees’ Ron Guidry (82nd start), according to the Elias Sports Bureau.
Signed by the Yankees as a non-drafted free agent on May 5, 2000, Wang has won more games than any Taiwanese-born pitcher and ranks third all-time in wins by Asian-born pitchers behind Japan’s Hideo Nomo (123) and South Korea’s Chan Ho Park (117).
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Chad Jennings
Sam Borden
Five million? That’s a bargain for your second Ace.
re: Arbitration raises to Wang/Nady/Swisher
Ok, so they got a nice deal here with Wang. What about Nady and Swisher?
Swisher is signed long-term.
So… is CC Sabathia really $18 million dollars better than Wang?
Re: Swisher
OK, I see now. 5.3 mil in 09
Go Wang! Don’t get hurt next year!
Re: Nady to arbitration
Will Nady settle up with the Yanks and follow suit with fellow Boras client Wang?
Am I missing something?
Burrell hit .250 last year with 130 strikeouts and is another righty. He also cannot field to save his life.
Why would we have interest in him?
CC gets paid by the pound
duh
Wang’s agent is Alan Nero, not Boras.
Re: Wang’s contract/agent
Ok I see that now. Nero is Wang’s agent and he’s under control for 2009, 2010 and 2011
Laura – Say No to Manny
December 22nd, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Five million? That’s a bargain for your second Ace.
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this is why pettitte is not worth 12 million or 10.
most pitchers outside of a few like cc,santanna,mo, & a few more make more than 10 million.
every single other one makes 10 or lower.most a lot lower.
pettitte is woth between 5-9 & that is because the yankees overpay.
most other teams he would be worth 7 million if he is lucky.
pettitte if he signs is the 5th best pitcher on this team.
We really should lock up Wang long-term. $5m for Wang? Damn, give the man a long-term contract! He’s earned it.
Is he under control for 2011? That would be his 7th season.
For an ace like Wang, 5 million is a super bargain. His value is tremendous to the team. I think he even has 1 career save for the Yankees.
yankees should keep an offer of 6/138 on the table for tex & see if he bites.
it is the highest aav out of all the offers i heard about.maybe we get lucky.
he said he want’s to sign by christmas.
I agree that Wang has earned the deal. But if you can get a 18 win pitcher at 5 mil, why would you pay him more than you have to? Good pitchers are hard to come by…its tough business but you have to do what’s good for the team sometimes.
the yankees need ot sign some clutch hitters not pat burrell and giambi…..don’t even waste your time and money on them…..i can’t understand the reasoning with the yankees…they sign two excellent pitchers and then try to be cheap with hitters…..the steinbrenner boys and cashman will regret this like they did last year with the young kids…..unfortunately if boston signs tex the yankees can look up at boston in the standings all year.
panicpanicpanic
I don’t think people realize just how good the Yank rotation is going to be this coming season. No freakin’ clue.
Bru, the Sox have offered 8 years/168 mil
I have read that from several sources so yeah, Boras would laugh at us if we offered 138 mil
Sabathia-Wang-Burnett-Joba
is not that much better than
Beckett-Matsuzaka-Lester-Masterson
or especially
Price-Kazmir-Shields-Garza
Meanwhile, Boston’s offense (with Tex) is way ahead of us and Tampa’s defense is way ahead of us. We’re not a lock for anything. We still could be a 90 win 3rd place team. The teams above us are excellent.
Katie
that is 21 million a year.my suggestion is for 23 million a year.
there are only a few teams that might sign him.times have changes.
right now it is boston,yankees,nationals,baltimore & there is no telling who is serious.
he is rumored to hate boston.every team is offering 20 million a year,boston 21 if the 8/168 is true.6/138 is 23 million a year & it allows him to hit fa 2 yrs earlier even though he will get an opt out.
changed
Homer
ortiz,lowell,drew,becket,dice-k can fall apart & boston can finish fourth.
baseball from what i have learned over the years is a funny sport.you can’t go by what is on paper or the year before.
look at boston after they won it all a few years ago then they finish 3rd.
Just do the damn 8 for 180 already and be done with it before we end up with nothing. I do like Manny but Tex gives us the better fit and keeps the DH spot open for rotational situations.
We must get a bat or we will be in more 3-2 games than I care to watch and I do appreciate well pitched games.
I agree that if Boston signs Tex then they will continue to stay ahead of us and Tampa didn’t show anything that makes me think that they won’t be as good. They might not win as many games but they should still be very good.
i’d love to get tex for 4/100 million this way he hits fa at 33 or 34 yrs old but he would rather get an opt out for more security.
the yankees outside of pitchers seem to be staying away from long term contracts except arod wich was a business decision.
outside of arod,cano & pitching most players are up in 3 yrs or less.
it looks like cashman is copying theo wich i like.
cano is young & arod brings in revenue to pay for a lot or all of his contract,cc probably will opt out.burnett is the only high risk for the most part but we desperately needed pitching to compete.
with pettitte payroll will be around 193 million & 44 million coming off the payroll after 09 with
pettitte(10 million)
damon13 million)
matsui(13 million)
nady(6 million after arbitration,rough guess)
molina(2 million)
wich will drop payroll to around 149 million.
YankeeRay,
Tex would be a good addition, but would not be much of an upgrade over a healthy Boston Red Sox Mike Lowell, not Marlin Lowell.
It’s either Texeria or Jennifer Aniston….I want one of them for Christmas to go with CC & AJ……Greed is a bad thing….
you’re right ray. Mike Lowell with the Red Sox is nearly equal to Teix.
ray (sox fan)
December 22nd, 2008 at 7:19 pm
YankeeRay,
Tex would be a good addition, but would not be much of an upgrade over a healthy Boston Red Sox Mike Lowell, not Marlin Lowell.
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Ray, he would be long term as Lowell declines. He would be a great fit for the Yanks short and long term at a position that should not be for the fielding impaired.
I do liken him somewhat to Donnie baseball and think that he will be over paid but that is the market.
If Boston is in on him then Cashman should follow that lead instead of looking back and saying we should have done that like we all feel about Beltran, which many of us felt at the time we passed on him.
Pat Burrell? Do the people who come up with ideas like that actually watch MLB?
boston can sign tex & finish behind us.
we had a better offense than the rays in 08.
nady & swisher will hit around 50 hr to replace abraeu’s & giambi’s production and we have matsui & posada back.
our offense will be better than 08 with better pitching by a mile and we kept most of our prospects,lowered payroll a little with the chance to lower it a lot more after 09 with jeter & i think mo off after 2010,maybe more.
the yankees have to get creative & stop with these killer contracts.
i like what cashman is doing.it will pay off.
everybody keeps wanting tex,manny,etc because it looks good on paper but forget that it did not work for the yankees in the past.
3 good pitchers,a good bullpen,balanced team,good defense,drafting & developement is what works not an on paper team.
the reason why boston will compete for a while is because they have been drafting well & are extremely smart with contracts.
they have a ton of money to spend right now if they wan’t.we do not.
homer: you are comparing masterson to joba?
crazy man
yank rotation, at least on paper, destroys boston’s hands down
offensively tho, boston has the edge, no doubt
…Tex would be a good addition, but would not be much of an upgrade over a healthy Boston Red Sox Mike Lowell, not Marlin Lowell….
Haha…absurd.
ray (sox fan)
December 22nd, 2008 at 7:19 pm
YankeeRay,
Tex would be a good addition, but would not be much of an upgrade over a healthy Boston Red Sox Mike Lowell, not Marlin Lowell.
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Ray, I have to disagree with you, Marlin is a Gold Glover at 5 positions and a 5 tool guy….mark it down…he’s at least a 40 homer, 40 steal guy this year. I also think he can win 20 games with 200 strikeouts, though he’ll be limited to 165 innings and 21 starts.
How much did Wang make in 08? Is this a raise?
I just got off the plane, how was the Manny press conference??? Dreds or no dreds? I’m trying to find a copy of Impacto Deportivo but I don’t think they sell it in this airport…
In-depth commentary by Graziano…no soundbites or throw-aways…you might disagree but it is an interesting read.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....ugh_t.html
The 7:19 post was not mine.
I don’t know who you are, but I have been using the tag for over two years. Would you please use another.
The press conference was cancelled after Manny came down with a case of bad vibes.
Also, Jayson Blair was hired by Impacto Deportivo as sports editor.
why the yankees should sign manny instead of tex-
YA HEAR THAT PETE?
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11187598
I would love to add Tex and I know a number of people on here yesterday suggested giving him the 8/180 mil but have his salary for this year less than the other years so we can still stay under and then next year when even more money comes off the books we are okay.
ONLY 5 Million!!!??!!!
What a bargain for Hankenstein and his crew.
Wanger is worth much more.
He’ll sign from 2010-2015 for about 40-50 Million after the 2009 season.
anyone who have been a fan in recent years, knows the following:
one of the issues which have been facing NYY is the roster did not have any flexibility. It had too many veteran players with immovable contracts. Either due to salary, no-trade clauses, or all the above.
and now everyone wants to commit 8/170 million to Texeria.
difficult to understand. Thankfully Texeria will be signing with the Redsox and this debate will end.
Vinny B: Why not offer him the 8 years/180 mil but with an opt out after 4th year? He is only 28 and will be 32-33 when he can opt out. I think that’s a pretty good deal
If the Yanks sign Manny (which I am in the middle of this debate) they will be going against everything they have stated the last 2 years.
So you choose, Manny or Tex?
vinny-b (Rocco Baldelli for CF)
December 22nd, 2008 at 8:09 pm
anyone who have been a fan in recent years, knows the following:
one of the issues which have been facing NYY is the roster did not have any flexibility. It had too many veteran players with immovable contracts. Either due to salary, no-trade clauses, or all the above.
and now everyone wants to commit 8/170 million to Texeria.
difficult to understand. Thankfully Texeria will be signing with the Redsox and this debate will end.
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I’ll repeat what I said earlier. Teixeira has /Boras as his agency. That means an OPT-OUT after four years. Boras has never let his star players NOT exercise that option. That gives NYY 4 years to develop their best first basemen, who are 19 years old now.
Teixeira has /Boras as his ***agent***
When is the hot stove going to heat up again? We had a busy 2-3 days, now it is as cold as it is outside.
I 100% agree with you GreenBeret7.
Boras would not sign anything that doesn’t have an opt-out clause
Katie:
opt-outs only favor the player/not the club (see: Burnett, AJ)
Manny or Tex? I prefer neither. As i prefer Girardi to keep his job. However if given a choice, i have to take Manny.
does it go against everything NYY have done the past 2 years? Not really. Assuming he will be the full-time DH. He would simply be a hired-gun on a short contract. This will permit the offense to produce while waiting on key prospets to develop (Ajax, Montero, Romine, etc) If Manny is signed for 3 years, the very worst case scenario is NYY may have to eat salary for the last 2 years on his contract. Big deal. Not the same, as 8 years. Not even close.
additionaly, IMO you cannot even compare the 2 players. Manny (who i don’t really like) is probably one of the 5 greatest hitters, of all time. Texeria by comparison is an also-ran. Manny is money, and is able to carry a team/offense on his back. Texeria have yet to prove, he can do this.
Manny can carry a team on his back. Manny can destroy a team too. (Like I said before, regarding Manny, I am not for neither against, there is just too many pros and cons for me to take a side)
Nobody needs to carry a team on their back. Especially if you are playing for the New York Yankees. They pay all that money for everyone to do their part (unfortunately this doesn’t always happen.)
I still say the Yankees should at least make an offer to him and see what happens
“Boras would not sign anything that doesn’t have an opt-out clause”
Boras has dozens and dozens of clients and many of the top players in the game.
As far as I know her has only had an opt out put in two player contracts – Alex’s and JD Drew.
Out of hundreds of deals he’s done that’s it as far as I know of.
And in total the only major players that have had an opt out in their contracts have been Alex, JD Drew, AJ Burnett and now CC.
In Alex’s case it was ostensibly put in because he was signing such a long deal at such an early age. For CC it’s location. For Burnett it was also location as it was to get him to agree to go to Canada as I recall.
It’s difficult to say opt outs will be some kind of trend when only 4 major players in recent years have even had one in their contracts.
Tex might get one but I see no particular reason to feel that the probability of that happening is high.
Fox Sports News take a poll, 55% suggested Wang should get a new Agent. Wang Should change agent after last year arbitration.
“Manny can carry a team on his back. Manny can destroy a team too. (Like I said before, regarding Manny, I am not for neither against, there is just too many pros and cons for me to take a side)”
yup. You’re right. It is taking a chance. In which case, they may have to eat salary on last 2 years of his contract (he would be fine in year 1)
conversely, when i see Tex’s contract offer, it is a repeat of the issues facing the post-dynasty Yankees. A Jason Giambi contract redux. pass.
Yes Vinny- B. Both players are a bit of a risk, but ultimately I don’t think the Yankees will offer either 1.
If they were to offer Manny a contract, why not offer him a 2 year deal with an option for a 3rd year?
The one case where I would expect Tex to get an opt out however would be if he signed with the Nats. That would be the kind of extenuating circumstance that have led players to demand opt outs in the past.
CB, from what I have read, the Nats have the lowest offer on the table. (but who really knows what has been offered)
They expect to not even win. To them it was showing their fans that they are serious about winning.
Roch Kubatko of MASN Online learned from multiple sources that the Nationals “have sweetened their proposal to Teixeira, offering him an eight-year deal worth $178-184MM.” He’s been told they’re willing to go nine years and there’s been talk of ten.
From MLBTR
Katie:
completely understand your position. Have never seen a player who had so many extreme pros/cons. Not to this level. As others have mentioned (SJ44 etc) it may be best for NYY to wait on a january. Or even a July, David Justice type of deal.
per Manny. I don’t expect he would sign for 2 years/option. If he is their target they should offer 2 years/60 million. It is better then 3 years/75 million. Whichever the case, i would definitely not offer him 4 years. No way.
Vinny: I really have never seen a player of his caliber been this much debated about.
As for Tex, I know that pitching and defense usually win a game, however the Red Sox would be that much more stronger with him. That’s my main concern and worry about letting him go. I am happy with Swisher at 1st. Happier than I was about Giambi.
I’m hoping the Nats and O’s step up and really want to show their teams they care about winning and take Tex away from the Sox.
I will take another rebuilding season if they send me Jennifer Aniston. I promise I won’t even watch one game.