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Another successful Christmas stealth mission by Brian Cashman

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Dec 23, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

As he did in 2005 with Johnny Damon, Brian Cashman stole a Scott Boras client from under the noses of the Red Sox today with the signing of Mark Teixeira.

Say this for the Yankees, money is apparently no object. You can expect howls of protest from across the country as Cashman adds yet another high-priced free agent. They now have the four biggest contracts in the game.

This will also teach me not to believe anything the Yankees say about living under a budget. It was only a few weeks ago Cashman said the idea of signing three big free agents was a fantasy. Sure thing. I was stupid to believe that.

But Teixeira makes far more sense than Manny Ramirez ever would have. Teixeira is younger, a strong defensive player and isn’t going to wake up one day and decide he doesn’t want to play.

The question now becomes what the Yankees do next. Does this mean adios to Andy Pettitte? Does this mean Xavier Nady or Nick Swisher becomes trade bait? It probably means Brett Gardner or Melky Cabrera plays center.

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440 Responses to “Another successful Christmas stealth mission by Brian Cashman”

  1. Josh December 23rd, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    Sign Pettitte and Sheets, put Joba in the pen. Done. World Series.

  2. Fran December 23rd, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    Another Christmas present from the Yankees. Does it get any better?

  3. Brian in 702 December 23rd, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    Pete,

    just listen to Sweeny, lol

    Rowand will come for Nady and Kennedy

  4. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! December 23rd, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    “Bill Madden says Teixeira told the Yankees he preferred them all along, after the Angels and Red Sox backed off. ”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....l_wit.html
    —————
    Ha. sure!!

  5. raymagnetic December 23rd, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    Budget Smudget. The Evil Empire is back in effect. :)

  6. chr1zisNYY December 23rd, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    Pete,
    What about Damon in LF and Swish in CF?

  7. NY 23 December 23rd, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    How Do , Cashman got the Job Done .
    MERRY CHRISTMAS YANKEES FANS !!!!!!!!!!!

  8. Mike December 23rd, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    Wouldnt the OF be Nady in LF, Damon in CF, and Swisher in RF? Rather than Gardner and (gulp) cabrera?

  9. Drain003 December 23rd, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    So… is the press conference tomorrow?

  10. crawdaddie December 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    Pete,
    Yep that’s what you get for listening to Cashman, when he’s in his negotiating mode.

  11. Joeshi! December 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    haha its going to be a bad year for yankee haters!

  12. Gehrig (Burnett to the ground) December 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    Pete on ESPNNEWS right now

  13. Drew December 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    THAT’S IT????!!!! No more taking egg of the face than that? Come on, Pete, feed the people!

  14. vin December 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    Pete on ESPN News

  15. JMAC December 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    Peter is on ESPN news right now

  16. Jon December 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    PETE ON ESPNNEWS RIGHT NOW!!!!

  17. wood is good December 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    I firmly believe Andy told Cashman he would accept their offer to come back, but Cashman told Pettitte basically “We’re gonna wait up with announcing that, because there’s something big brewing.” I totally expect it to be announced Andy’s coming back within seven days.

  18. PJH December 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    This is a nice Christmas gift. 100 dollar bills ahould be the new toilet paper at Yankee Stadium. After all, money is no issue to them.

  19. BX 44 December 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    Damon isin’t that bad in center… he just can’t throw.

    Against teams with speed like Tampa, Angels, Minnesota etc. just bench Nady or Swisher and play Damon in left, Gardner in Center. The rest of the time, just go with the normal lineup.

  20. Vrsce December 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    Fantastic

    Too bad about Andy. His childish snit may have cost him.

  21. A-Fraud.. December 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    on espn news

  22. sammy December 23rd, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    I would say Damon in LF, Cabrera in CF, and Nady in RF. They… won’t… do… anything… else…

  23. Clint December 23rd, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Time to package Kennedy, Miranda, and Melky to get a legit setup man.

  24. Steamer December 23rd, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Great job thus far by Pete. Some vacation!

  25. J in PA December 23rd, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Pete is on ESPNEWS right now! 4:31 p.m.

    Vacation? HA!

    Pete I told you Tex would be a Yankee!

    Clean Sweep of the off-season! A+++

  26. dISGUSTINGMoney December 23rd, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    Yankees have shelled out $413,500,000 in long term contracts so far this offseason (based on 8/170 for Tex).

    They currently have 3 of the 5 active players with contracts with an AAV over $20MM (assuming Manny signs a contract with an AAV equal to or greater than his last contract).

    They have the highest AAV:

    Starting pitcher CC Sabathia at $23MM
    Relief Pitcher Mariano Rivera at $15MM
    First Baseman Mark Teixeira at $21.25MM
    Catcher Jorge Posada at $13.1MM
    Shortstop Derek Jeter at $18.9MM
    Third Baseman Alex Rodriguez at $27.5MM (excluding insane incentives)

    Additionally they have the third highest AAV Second Baseman Robinson Cano at $7.5MM and the sixth highest AAV Starting Pitcher AJ Burnett at $16.5MM. and both the eighth highest AAV OF Johnny Damon and Hideki Matsui at $13MM each.

    Their current payroll is at $191.1MM using AAV not including any of the 40 man roster not on the 25 man, nor does it include anything for benefits. It only includes 7 pitchers (Sabathia, Burnett, Wang, Chaimberlan, Hughes, Rivera and Marte)

    dISGUSTINGMoney

  27. Bobby December 23rd, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    Damon or Swisher will play CF, and I believed this all along.

    Cash and Girardi were “pulling a Bubba Crosby” when they kept saying Melky & Gardner would compete. Both max out as 4th OFs, even the worst talent evaluators know that.

    Whether they knew they would land Tex or not, who knows, but it was no coincidence that the 1B they picked up early just so happened to make most of his starts in CF last year.

  28. Rick (Columbus) December 23rd, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    sounding good on the Hot list Pete.
    Merry Christmas!

  29. Mike December 23rd, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    The Yanks actually aren’t spending as much as people think. In the past they have been well over the luxury tax threshold, but for the next few years they get to subtract the construction costs and interest off from payroll. This should put them much closer to the luxury tax threshold, which btw, goes up every year and will be 174 million next season

  30. pat December 23rd, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Color me shocked and happy! There’s the stealth Cash move I asked for the other day.

  31. BuytheDevilRays December 23rd, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Iam a Yankee fan . But if we want to secure a playoff spot maybe we should buy the Tampa Bay Devil Rays too!

  32. TEXIERA!!!!!!!! December 23rd, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Who really cares how Cashman is spending his money. I don’t. I’m sure he did the math and decided that this was do-able.

    He obviously wants to field the best possible team and that costs money. You should appreciate that.

  33. Marky McFly December 23rd, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    What I would give to see Manny’s face right now…
    Manny is not fit to be a Yankee, hopefully now he sees that…

  34. Whitey Fraud December 23rd, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Prediction: Manny will be going back to Boston.

  35. Eric December 23rd, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Buster Olney sounded so depressed

    Man, the backlash from this is going to be brutal

  36. able 21 December 23rd, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    Brian Cashman gets my vote for Man of the Year

    Merry Christmas to all Yankee Fans.

  37. randy l December 23rd, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    wow, what a lump of coal to red sox nation .

  38. Patrick December 23rd, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    CB, I have to give you major props. Your post at 12:50 pm today was excellent. You looked at a lot of rumors and made some excellent conclusions about Teixeira being a possibility.

    Also props to all of those that stuck with the idea that Tex would be a Yankee. I’m sure I had some snide comments for several of you. I was wrong, you guys were right.

  39. JMAC December 23rd, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    Anyone know yet if this contract includes one of those stupid opt-out clauses? I read somewhere that Boras would most likely insist on one wherever Tex signed. Don’t really feel like going through this crap in another 3-4 years.

  40. anonymous December 23rd, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    “Prediction: Manny will be going back to Boston.”

    I was thinking the same thing Mr. Fraud

  41. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes December 23rd, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    This is well worth a visit:

    http://firebrandal.com/2008/12.....l#comments

  42. vin December 23rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    “Prediction: Manny will be going back to Boston.”

    The way this offseason has gone… you never know.

  43. PittsburghYankeeFan December 23rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    To the Sawx fans out there–tough noogies. Let John Henry find some of his hedge fund $$$ (oops, he may not have it anymore) to pay the extra $10 million it would have taken. Don’t give deadlines, and don’t negotiate in the press.

    Pete, I think the key here is the salary distribution for 2009. CC is only in at $14 million. After 2009, Damon and Matsui come off the books–that’s another $26 million. Assume Pettitte signs for one year–one of the kids will replace him and his $10 million in 2010.

    Even with Tex and Pettitte, the salary comes in at around $180-190 million, and they have a stocked farm to go get some cost controlled bats and a catcher in the coming years.

    You have to win it on the field, but this team appears set for at least the next 3-4 years, with an excellent plan going forward.

    My guess is that the payroll peaks at around $185 million in 09, and goes down after that.

  44. Don December 23rd, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    As funny as it sounds, it would not shock me one bit if the Sox and Manny patch things up and he signs with them again.

    Boston will NOT just sit back and watch us make these moves

  45. darkmoonfire December 23rd, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    My question now is… what do we ultimately do with Posada? Is he likely to be full time DH in 2010? I can’t see him being the catcher for very much longer and he’s not going to be the 1b now.

  46. Largo December 23rd, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Someone else can probably confirm this, but aren’t the Yankees out of the Type A market now that they have signed 3? And doesn’t that (finally) put the Manny stuff to rest? Or do I have that wrong?

  47. Jets Jets Jets Jets December 23rd, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    What a great Christmas gift.

  48. Doreen December 23rd, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    Oh. My. Goodness.

    I go out food shopping.

    I come back.

    I didn’t refresh, so I’m scrolling two threads ago.

    Then I refresh.

    Oh. My. Goodness.

    Teixeira is a Yankee.

    You could knock me down with a feather!

  49. michelle (X is the best letter in the alphabet!) December 23rd, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    My favorite comment from that article prince

    http://firebrandal.com/2008/12.....l#comments

    Posted by ChuckJones, December 23, 2008 3:47 PM

    I’d rather keep Mike (what a man!) and extend Youk than pay astounding $$ for someone who really doesn’t care to be a Red Sox. If he wants to play with the Yankees for a little more $$, then I’m shedding no tears. (We’ll probably hear that “looks like Jesus throws like Mary” called and told him he shouldn’t sign with the Red Sox.)

    This will also clear the way for Lars Anderson.

    The Yankees – and Tampa – have proved that big payrolls don’t mean championships.

    In Theo I trust. Go Red Sox!

  50. YankeeRay December 23rd, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Bored already, Manny next lol

  51. Patrick December 23rd, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Largo,

    I just read this on an old MLB trade rumors posting:

    “Talking to a few people in the game, it seems that the Type A/B free agent quota depends on the number of Type A/Bs who file. If 62 or fewer such players file (which is possible) then each team will have a quota of three Type A or B signings. Regardless of that, teams are allowed to sign as many Type A/Bs as they lose. As far as I can tell, the quota has never been an issue in the past. “

  52. AROD fan December 23rd, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Ok, NFL needs to get help for its pentalty/fining obsession. Fining a guy for playing with some snow? Get real! Shaun Alexander can throw snow at me any time he wants!

    They should take some lessons from teh Yankees… charge fans $10,000 for the snow ball (he doesn’t even need to take time to make it into a ball, it can just be a scoop)

  53. Jets Jets Jets Jets December 23rd, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    When Posada can’t catch full-time anymore, then he becomes a backup catcher/DH.

    And when Jeter can’t play SS anymore, he moves to left or becomes a utility INF off the bench

    The 1B position now belongs to a switch hitting gold gloving beast

  54. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) December 23rd, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Oh the hell w/ it I’m nearly half drunk right now what the hell…

    Come on erybody 12 days of X-mas Yankees style
    (yes I said ery) lets sing along I guess :?

    On the 1st day of christmas my GM got for me a CC to NYC

    On the 2nd day of christmas my GM got for me, AJ Burnett, and a CC to NYC

    On the 3rd day of christmas my GM got for me a bargain on Wang, AJ Burnett, and a CC to NYC

    On the 4th day of christmas my GM got for me some guy named Marky Mark, a bargain on Wang, AJ Burnett, and a CC to NYC

    ……Now maybe we can get something for Wang (LOL)

  55. vinny-b (Rocco Baldelli for CF) December 23rd, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    “Also, what happened to all that talk about reducing payroll and having roster flexibility. This signing flies in the face of both of those ideas”

    gone out the window.

    ditto for any hopes of signing a 5-tool player in the future. Unless we develop our own.

  56. rodg12 December 23rd, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Largo:

    The Yanks can sign/resign one more Type A/B Free Agent since they are losing 4 (Abreu, Mussina, Pettitte, Pudge).

  57. Mr. Exceptional December 23rd, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Now the Yankees can package Nady and Kennedy to the Rangers and steal one of the catchers Boston wants…. Oh to dream.

  58. ANSKY December 23rd, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    I believe Cashman and Tiexiera were both sensing the ripples my anti-Manny rants were causing in the force.

    After belittling Sox fans who would cheer for a guy who exemplified everything they claimed to hate, I could not see cheering for the same enigmatic guy if he ended up in pinstripes.

    They claimed to be cheering for the team or the uniform but they still called him ‘loveable’ or whatever. My point of view was that if you really like your team there can actually be limits to what you’d accept cheering for.

    If you root for the guy when you’d normally hate him if he wore another uniform, you’re a bandwagon fan of that guy.

    Of course you don’t root for a guy on the other team especially when they play against your team. And of course you root for the same guy if they’ve moved to your own team. Johnny Damon is a perfect example of this.

    But Manny was a guy who was virtually voted off the team by his own teammates, in spite of being a good hitter. Not many guys can accomplish that. That’s not the kind of guy I’d want on my favorite team, I don’t care how good he is. Not wanting one guy on your team does not make one a fan of players rather than a fan of the team. I don’t want my favorite team to be associated with that act. I like my favorite team better than that. I wouldn’t have jumped on the Manny bandwagon if he became a Yank.

    Thankfully, the earth still spins on its axis.

  59. able 21 December 23rd, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Anyone think the Yanks look to add Derek Lowe or Ollie Perez?

  60. Nick in SF in Charlotte December 23rd, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Q: So do you want to sign CC, Tex, or AJ?

    A: Yes, please.

  61. john December 23rd, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Here they come the crying Sox fans. Lars Anderson because they read it in the Boston Globe and never seen the kid play yet. Let the old Boston crying commence. Acting like the Sox didn’t have the money, so sad.

  62. Doreen December 23rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Hey, SJ44 -

    You and I were a little off a week ago, no? :lol: :lol:

  63. Tom December 23rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus

  64. John December 23rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Pete,

    hate to tell you, but yeah, we all told you so.

    GO YANKEES

  65. Largo December 23rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Patrick, rodg12 –

    Thanks. So if they sign Pettitte then they have reached the quota?

  66. harwood December 23rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Pete are you frequenting a local crack dealer? Teixeira is going to be in LA. Yankees cant afford 2 big ticket FA’s. And it doesnt make sense for the Sox.

    This blog post has to be wrong.

  67. randy l December 23rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    “Brian Cashman gets my vote for Man of the Year”

    for 2008 ,nothing makes up for his brain dead hughes, kennedy, joba younger and cheaper starting pitching plan, but i’ll give him a vote for comeback kid for 2009 .

  68. FireMan December 23rd, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    I will not believe this until ImpactoDeportes.com reports it.

  69. Sea Net December 23rd, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Has Brian Cashman now eclipsed Jerry Reese as best GM in the town?

  70. al arodien December 23rd, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    What will the world say if we don’t win it all this season!
    I think this off season was the biggest spending spree ever for the Yankees

  71. EAT CROW PEEET!!!!!! December 23rd, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    who bats 3rd/4th/5th?

  72. john December 23rd, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    Yankees should move Nady or Matsui if possible. Both are free agents next year. Nady has more value. Probably both won’t be back. Swisher is under a decent contract, younger, switch hits, plays multiple OF positions, they would have him in the OF for next year and beyond and have control of him. All of these moves make sense because now the Yankees don’t have to overpay a Holliday to bat fourth and play in the OF next year or get and aging guy who signed a big contract as a salary dump. Now they have many options to start addressing the OF for the following year before they would need to pay up for a few guys. No more Mike Cameron or Manny, but you have the best infield in baseball and gold gloves at first and third. Good luck hitting doubles down the line.

  73. Drew December 23rd, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Red Sox fans are adorable.

  74. R-Tek December 23rd, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    So Yankee Stadium is now the Death Star?

    Awesome.

  75. rodg12 December 23rd, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Largo:

    From everything I’ve read, that is correct. We can sign/resign one more Type A/B free agent. Resigning Pettitte would eliminate us from signing any other Type A/B.

  76. harwood December 23rd, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Are we at the FA limit or can we still get Manny?

  77. EAT CROW PEEET!!!!!! December 23rd, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    YES! WE! CAN!

  78. Al from BK December 23rd, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    If the Yankees got in the range for Tex he was gonna be ours. This guy has wanted to be a Yankee his whole life. Nats and Orioles would have given him way higher and the Sux were in the same neighborhood I’m glad he made the right choice :)

  79. able 21 December 23rd, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    It will be fun to see those Red Sox fan hats in NYC and laugh at them as they walk by. Just like good old times.

  80. Outlawz December 23rd, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Teixeria hit .467 with a .550 OBP, 4 runs, and 1 RBI this postseason BTW

  81. #9 December 23rd, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Love reading that Russo said the rest of america will hate us for spending the money.

    This is from a guy who left a long time sucessful gig at WFAN for more money at Sirius.

    Russo is phonier than a 3 dollar bill.

  82. Al from BK December 23rd, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    As expected Sux trolls come in here with bawwwing responses attempting to rain on our parade. Sorry guys its not workin’ ;)

  83. Boston Dave December 23rd, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    “Buster Olney sounded so depressed”

    Olney is a Yanks fan

  84. Weather Man December 23rd, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Man, how awful does the Nady trade look now? We gave away Tabata for him and now we’re going to probably ship him off for some mediocre prospects to make room for Tex.

    Marte could have been signed for just cash this off-season.

  85. Largo December 23rd, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    rodg12 -

    So if Andy re-signs with the Yankees, Manny no longer has two of the richest franchises (Yankees and Red Sox) to build up his value. And if the Angels are really out of it . . . I don’t think he’ll be making 20 million next year.

  86. Baja December 23rd, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    I have nothing intelligent to add, but you should see the excrement eating grin on my face.

    Cue the music. Baum baum chica baum, wot wot wot wot, oh yeah!

    Wait, does this mean I’m not getting any gifts on Thursday, (which will henceforth be known as two days after Christmas)?

  87. Y26 December 23rd, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    I’m going to do 12 shots of Patron tonight

    Christmas Eve Eve

  88. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Patrick,

    Thanks. It’s funny to think of all the budget permutations we’ve gone through here.

    Who would have ever thought? I was still highly skeptical until it happened.

    I just felt between the cameron deal being off, then the leak in the times of the team not being interested in going past 160M, to the O’Brien budget reports, etc. that thing were changing.

    Signals were being sent. Didn’t know what the import of those signals was but the messages being leaked by the yanks was definitely changing over the last week as they sensed the process was closing.

  89. Drew December 23rd, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Olney was probably depressed b/c someone scooped him…

  90. sweet lou December 23rd, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Stephen A. Smith was on ESPN a little while ago and LOVES the deal. He also says we need to go get Manny now too.

  91. AeroFANatic December 23rd, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    Why does anyone think we are going to make any trades? If anyone is traded, It’s Melky. We arent going to trade Damon, Matsui, Nady, or Swisher. They all are in the starting lineup, with Gardner backing up in CF.

    Damon
    Jeter
    Tex
    Rodriguez
    Matsui
    Nady
    Posada
    Cano
    Swisher

  92. Nick in SF in Charlotte December 23rd, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    They can cry in their chowdah.

  93. Moneyball December 23rd, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    So I guess Swish is a bench player/insurance policy?

  94. harwood December 23rd, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....quisition/

  95. Drew December 23rd, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    When I start listening to Steven A. Smith, shoot me. He and Steve Phillips should get lost on a ship somewhere.

  96. EAT CROW PEEET!!!!!! December 23rd, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    Damon
    Jeter
    Nady
    ARod
    Tex
    Posada
    Zilla
    Cano
    Swisher

  97. rodg12 December 23rd, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    Exactly Largo. I could see the Nats throwing some $$$ Manny’s way now, though. Don’t really know how he fits them though.

  98. James December 23rd, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    Olney didn’t really sound ‘depressed’, he just was saying that the backlash was going to be bad and he already got e-mails and calls from GMs complaining. He himself didn’t say it was a bad deal, he just articulated what GMs and such were saying.

  99. Ninja Burglar December 23rd, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    If I remember correctly, CB had posted some analytics a week or so back saying that an addition of Tex would make up enough offense to offset using either Melky or Gardner in CF.

    It’s feasable that neither Nady nor Swisher need to be traded. With so many questionmarks around Matsui and Swisher being able to play multiple positions, we could perhaps see a rotation of Damon, Matsui, Nady, Swisher, Mekly/Gardner for all 3 OF spots and DH. This would keep everyone fresh, and we’d be able to absorb a major injury to one of those guys. I know Damon was getting days off last year, Nady was getting days off last year, Matsui will surely need some days off, and Swisher needs to prove himself. We may have solved our bench problem and 1st base in one move.

  100. Eastport December 23rd, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    Stephen A. Smith is a DIE HARD Yankee fan

  101. Just another handle. December 23rd, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    I posted just a couple of days ago that if “you are all in” then you sign Tex.

    I guess they are ALL IN now!

  102. paulie December 23rd, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    So is this buh bye to Hideki Matsui?

  103. R+ December 23rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    Is Tex considered a good clubhouse guy? Does he have friends on the team?

  104. Drew December 23rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    Who cares who Steven A. Smith is a fan of? There are a lot of moronic Yankees fans, and he’s one. Every time I hear his voice, nails on the blackboard.

  105. ANSKY December 23rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    What I meant was that with someone like Johnny Damon it’s normal to like someone who was a former enemy. That’s within reason and doesn’t make you a bandwagon fan of the player. This is normal.

    Even Clemens (PED rumors aside) was hated by the Yanks & fans for buzzing & plunking Jeter when he pitched for Toronto. That’s just who he was as a pitcher. But all players involved got together and worked it out between themselves, he became a good teammate and became accepted by the fans. And we all rooted for him. It happens.

    Manny is an enigma. What I’ve been ranting is that he’s a rare exception to any such rule. There aren’t very many guys like that out there. Pedro Martinez may have been another.

    I’ve heard that a few of the core Yanks got together back when Pedro was on the market and told management that Pedro would not have been accepted in the club house. Pedro was really good then and the team could have used his statistics in the rotation. But even the guys on the team have a limit. I’ve been thinking more along those lines with regard to Manny.

  106. Andrew (Official Scorer) December 23rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    “Man, how awful does the Nady trade look now? We gave away Tabata for him and now we’re going to probably ship him off for some mediocre prospects to make room for Tex.”

    How is it that he has to go to make room? As of now Nady is still the starting right fielder for 2009. If anyone is now on the block it’s Matsui. I’m not saying that Nady is clearly unavailable, but I don’t think this guarantees his departure. The Yankees will probably be glad to have him for the year and, if Swisher bounces back at the plate in ’09, they could potentially put him in right for ’10 and let Nady walk, since Swish is under the team’s control for a while longer.

  107. Jeremy December 23rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    Wait Pete, you mean that when a GM says something to the media, he might not be speaking honestly because he is trying to misinform other teams and get an advantage in making deals?

    I am shocked, shocked I tell you.

    You don’t do yourself much credit for saying you were just believing what Cashman said when you essentially wrote, about ten times, that anyone who thought the Yankees would sign Teixeira was ignorant about how baseball works (or just crazy).

    You had an obligation to report what Cashman said, but not to treat his words like a solemn promise and call anyone who didn’t believe them a fool. Your opinion the Yankees would not sign Teixeira was eminently reasonable, but you often voiced that opinion in an unpleasant way.

  108. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    “for 2008 ,nothing makes up for his brain dead hughes, kennedy, joba younger and cheaper starting pitching plan, but i’ll give him a vote for comeback kid for 2009 .”

    Supply and demand. The supply of talent on the free agent market this year was the greatest its been in years.

    They deployed their resources accordingly and were able to leverage them even more due to the economic environment.

    They are liquid while other buyers are deferring. Any business that’s liquid in these circumstances will look to buy assets because good values can be had. This is what Bank of American and JP Morgan Chase have done.

    I’m sure we’ll disagree on this but I don’t think this off season vs. last were strategically different. Only the tactics were and that was related to market conditions.

  109. Forntoso December 23rd, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    Trade Nady

    Play Gardner in Center

  110. ANSKY December 23rd, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    “So Yankee Stadium is now the Death Star?”

    R-Tek that was totally hysterical!

  111. S.A.- CC+Wang=An Awesome 1 and 2! No Manny! December 23rd, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Does LeBron approve this move?

  112. gloomy December 23rd, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    I wonder how likely is it that Teixeira, Burnett, and CC will be on the DL next season :(

  113. Forntoso December 23rd, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Stephen A Smith is pretty useless when it comes to anything other than basketball

  114. Patrick Bateman December 23rd, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    Pettitte comes back.

    Nady goes.

  115. Whatever December 23rd, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    I like this better:

    Damon
    Jeter
    Tex
    Rodriguez
    MANNY
    Abreu
    Posada
    Cano
    Garner

  116. john December 23rd, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    The Death Star … I love it.

  117. Arch December 23rd, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Oh, my goodness, Brian, you sneaky little devil.

  118. George December 23rd, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    If Gammons hasn’t been on the salary cap bandwagon yet, I guarantee he will tonight.

  119. john December 23rd, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Cashman has really cleaned up his crew, few leaks and seems like they have had and continue to have a plan. And it is a lot more than just money to spend behind it.

  120. vtred December 23rd, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    R-Tek,

    Love that name… Death Star. Excellent.

  121. john December 23rd, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    The Sox reportedly $10 million short. As usual. Like they didn’t have the extra 10 over 8 years to spend. Sox fans will be crying poor soon enough. The world is right again !

  122. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes December 23rd, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    This is UNREAL.

    I cannot believe this…Yanks are going for the gold.

    Baseball is going to be very angry.

    Now what? We may not, but we COULD trade Matsui or Nady. I’d prefer Matsui, though he’ll be harder to move.

  123. rodg12 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    All this Salary Cap talk is ludicrous. All a salary cap does is pad the pockets of baseball’s owners. That’s all.

  124. YankeeRay December 23rd, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    This site makes it all worth it
    Merry Christmas to the cute little new sockies
    http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....l#comments

  125. Moneyball December 23rd, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    Why should the yanks move Nady? He’s a tough player coming off a great year. He hit 50 pts better than Swisher last year, and I think probably 5-10 more hrs. He’s better in the OF and has better career numbers. Damon and Matsui are both FA’s next year. Swish/Nady will move to LF next year if we bring Nady back.

  126. john December 23rd, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    Gammons first order of biz , a spin article on how Teixera is not very good. Wonder if he had to scrap his Tex is the best article he was working on this morning.

  127. S.o.S. December 23rd, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    Does this mean we’re out of the Dunn playing first sweepstakes?

    Lets go for the sweep and sign Sheets.

    Question to all. Lets say he performs to his capabilities for 5 of the 8 years. Would he be considered worth it to you?

    Does stadium your going to play your home games a big factor? I mean if i had a choice to make of a piss hole and a NEW YANKEE STADIUM, I wouldnt give it a second thought. Seriously.

  128. Pinstripe Azq December 23rd, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    Teshera will fit in here like a glove, just like Abreu did. Except he is better than Abreu

  129. pecosmedic December 23rd, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    This is a nice Christmas gift. 100 dollar bills ahould be the new toilet paper at Yankee Stadium. After all, money is no issue to them.

    I love the way this sounds!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL

    Go Yanks!!!!!

  130. John Williams December 23rd, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    Play it loud!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  131. 4 x 4 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    We could probably get a nice package for Matsui from the Angels.

  132. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    The team that actually really comes out short on this signing and must be besides themselves are the brewers.

    Doug Melvin must be crying.

    CC Sabathia was amazing last year. He was a slam dunk Type A free agent and I’m sure the Brewers never seriously considered the possibility of not getting a first round pick for him.

    Only problem – CC was the second ranked player by elias.

    First ranked – Tex.

    So the only way the brewers wouldn’t get a first round pick was if the same team signed CC and Tex.

    The angels now have the yanks first round pick.

    The brewers are left with the yankees second round pick.

  133. michelle (X is the best letter in the alphabet!) December 23rd, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    “Does LeBron approve this move?”

    Not only does Lebron Approve of this move, he is offering up a portion of his salary for the 2010 and 2011 season.

  134. john December 23rd, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Is everyone happy they didn’t make the moves to keep the team afloat last year now???

    And Nady would be moved only because he potentially draws them a younder player along with a package maybe Kennedy to bring back an OFer who is younger and under contract to fit next year and beyond. Otherwise Nady is a free agent next year and probably doesn’t fit into the Yankees longer term plans for the money he will want as that will be his last chance really at a bigger contract.

  135. Mr. Burns December 23rd, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    Wouldn’t it be funny if they had their press conference on Christmas morning?

  136. S.o.S. December 23rd, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    This deal reminds me more of the Arod to the Sox inevetability and then out of no where we pull the trigger.
    I wonder if they will call Tex, Mark &*&!@ Teixeira in bean town.

  137. josh December 23rd, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    trade swish, damon, aceves for sizemore… now

  138. rodg12 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    CB,

    Yeah, that’s one of the first things I thought of when we signed Tex. Only slight downside is that we now give our first rounder to the Angels instead of the Brew Crew. I feel for the Brewers, I really do and think Melvin is a heck of a GM and did everything he could last year to make a run for the title.

  139. SJ44 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    CB,

    Even though the smoke signals were out there, they didn’t get a discount. It’s a lot of coin.

    But, it’s their money. They are playing by the rules. If other GM’s and fans dont like it, too bad.

    There is a perverse pleasure at Tex leaving the Sox at the altar again.

    That’s the best part of the whole deal.

  140. vinny-b (Rocco Baldelli for CF) December 23rd, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    “Buster Olney sounded so depressed”
    “but Olney is a Yanks fan”

    doesn’t matter. Buying a championship takes the fun out of it.

    Major Leauge Baseball 2k9: New York Yankees Edition (available on PS3 and Xbox 360)

  141. E-Man December 23rd, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    “It probably means Brett Gardner or Melky Cabrera plays center.”

    No it doesn’t.

    They’re not going to spend half a billion dollars and have one of these two bums as our starting CF.. Maybe Vernon Wells? The Blue Jays have to get someone off of the books.

  142. trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY!" December 23rd, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    *I’m having some very conflicting emotions here…*

    1. Things like this make me hate the Yankees in principle, only because I definitely have a bleeding heart for the “have not” teams. I truly feel sad for the Nats.

    2. Things like this make me love the Yankees in reality. I didn’t with Tex, didn’t think we needed him, still don’t, but hot damn, listening to WEEI is chicken soup for any Yankee lovers soul!

    Don’t let anyone fool you into thinking that the Sox backed off. The broadcasters are beyond bereft and have come out and said “HE CHOSE THE YANKEES OVER THE RED SOX!”

    Yes, it was actually that simple.

    :lol:

    Congrats to our Yankee fan contingency who were really rooting to get him. Obviously he won’t hurt the Yankees.

    Brian Cashman, I so bow at your throne that I fear I will never be able to stand up straight again.

    *For a REAL treat – try some streaming WEEI!!!!!

  143. S.o.S. December 23rd, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    CB,
    How much better would you say getting a gold glove first baseman vs. a gold glove center fielder be if any?

  144. trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY!" December 23rd, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    “but Olney is a Yanks fan”

    Oooo I don’t think so. If I remember correctly Buster told us he grew up in VT. and was a Red Sox fan.

    :D

  145. Distd December 23rd, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    vinny, agree.

    Even when we win. it won’t feel good because we bought a title. we didn’t earn it the way other teams do with role players, home grown stars, and guys stepping up and gutting out wins

    we are just a bunch of billion dollar mercenaries

  146. AeroFANatic December 23rd, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Folks -

    Damon OR Swisher is going to play CF. Melky will be moved for bench parts, and Gardner will be the 4th OF, to spell the outfield on a consistent basis to keep them fresh.

    Matsui is perm DH.
    Matsui, Damon, Nady all come off the books next year. That’s 31 million. Plenty to spend on a stud OF, and with the promotion of some youngsters…our OF is set for the next 5-10 years.

  147. Moneyball December 23rd, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Between all the money the Yankees make for other teams by visiting their parks and drawing more fans, and paying luxury taxes other owners and gm’s should not hate on our success. Yanks haven’t won anything yet but boy does 27 look nice on Girardi’s back.

  148. Clint December 23rd, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    Olney’s bio on ESPN.com says he grew up a Dodgers fan in Vermont.

  149. AROD fan December 23rd, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    This is the absolute best thing ever!

  150. YaYoGakk December 23rd, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    Someone clue me in: Why would we need to trade Swish, Matsui, Damon, or Nady? Why not just put Damon in center and platoon with Melky or Gardner, Nady in left and Swisher in right? Matsui can DH. Sure the Damon’s arm isn’t the best, but that the least we can sacrifice for such a potent and deep 1-9.

  151. TGFizeek December 23rd, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    Heard a rumor Texiera never forgave the Sox for floating a rumor he was injured so they could draft him in the late rounds. His dad who is a military guy has many depricating things to say about the character of that organization. That’s why he went to Georgia Tech instead of pro and maybe why he strung them out?

  152. trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY!" December 23rd, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    By the way, the WEEI guys are convinced that the Yankees aren’t done and think they might actually go after Manny AND Peavy. Needless to say they are in a mild state of panic.

  153. harrs44 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    I have one word for all the complainers: Wah.

    The Yanks’ payroll will be about the same, if not less, than last year’s despite these signings. And, the team forks over its luxury tax every year without complaint so other organizations (I’m looking at you, Kansas City and Pittsburgh) can horde the money and not invest it back into the team.

    I for one couldn’t care less about how much money the Yanks spend. They want to field a winner, and they have the means to do so. All fans should be so lucky.

    And, by the way, which team hasn’t won the WS since 2000 despite having the highest payroll in baseball? Oh, right. So can the “ruining baseball” garbage, already.

  154. NO HYPE December 23rd, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    Well this came as no surprise to be honest. I have been an advocate of signing MT for the whole offseason and am glad Cashman and Co. have the sense to sign him. Its so obvious they are looking to bring back the glory days of the dynasty era. Who cannot love the lineup they are throwing out there now?? Tex will help A-Rod a lot, and having a healthy Matsui hitting at his career norms will be the most lethal 3-4-5 punch in the majors. If Jeter upticks a bit (.290) and Posada hits around his norms this will be a potent lineup. Just pray we avoid the types of injuries they had last year.

  155. trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY!" December 23rd, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    Okay, a MAJOR state of panic.

    :D

  156. ANSKY December 23rd, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    I wonder what decibel reading in Fenway will be while Tiexiera and A-Rod bat consecutively.

    I bet those two guys will be loving it.

    I sure will.

  157. aardvark December 23rd, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    boston is still in excellent shape.

    a lineup of

    ellsbury
    pedroia
    youk
    ortiz
    drew
    bay
    lowell
    varitek
    lowrie

    is still one of, if not the best in baseball. plenty of power, speed, and gold glove defense at almost every position.

    sox are now underdogs, they play their best that way when it is them against the world and they have a chip on their shoulder. the pressure is off them now.

    theo still has some moves up his sleeve like peavy, saltalamachia, hardy, russell martin, etc. the sox will still be a great team next year IMO

  158. Bob December 23rd, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    I had told MANY MANY people that what the Yankees did was talk to Teixeira before the Winter Meetings and tell Boras to contact them when they were ready to deal. This is EXACTLY what happened. I knew Teixeira was going to be a Yankee….
    The lineup should have Arod in FRONT of Teixeira. That will give Arod better pitches to hit. Both are going to be MONSTERS back to back anyway but there are LOTS of runs to be scored by Damon and Jeter. I believe Melky will be in CF, to start the season, and they will go from there.

  159. EY December 23rd, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    LOL the BoSux Tex-Hate-Brigade are already out in full force:

    “What best describes the way you’re feeling about the Yankees landing Mark Teixeira?

    Good riddance … Teixeira wasn’t worth that much anyhow. I trust that the Sox made the right decision here by not over-reaching for him. I’m going to LOVE hating this guy.

    52.4%”

    From the Boston Globe article’s poll.

  160. AROD fan December 23rd, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    Distd
    December 23rd, 2008 at 5:13 pm
    vinny, agree.
    Even when we win. it won’t feel good because we bought a title. we didn’t earn it the way other teams do with role players, home grown stars, and guys stepping up and gutting out wins
    we are just a bunch of billion dollar mercenaries


    ok, seriously, you guys need:

    1) to get some real things to feel bad about in life, and
    2) I don’t know. If the idea of watching some of the best players in baseball all play on your team next year makes you feel bad, I have no suggestions.

  161. Joe December 23rd, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    The enormous payroll will offset their chances of winning by the fact that Tex is pretty accurately described as Arod Jr. What ever happened to great pitching, solid offense, good clubhouse guys, and some role players? That is how you get NY to LOVE the team. As it is, even if they win…great we just outspent everyone by a factor of 10. I just don’t like it.

  162. NO HYPE December 23rd, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    Anybody have the line now from Vegas on a Yankees World Series? It must have gone up quite a bit now.

  163. JT December 23rd, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    I can’t stand Buster Olney. Why is he saying this deal marks the end of Matsui’s tenure in the Bronx? How the heck does he come to that conclusion?

  164. S.o.S. December 23rd, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    Vinny,
    I would take your advice now and sign Rocco to roam center for cheap. Try to find a taker on a Nady,Matsui or Swisher. Odds are we’re probably more likely to get people interested in Nady.

  165. PAT M. December 23rd, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    When does Mark Texreia win his MVP….09 OR 2010…..Be certain theres one in his future…..Missed the Catfish Hunter signing anniversity by one day….Christmas Eve 1974, the day the Steinbrenner Yankee myth came to be born

  166. randy l December 23rd, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    “I’m sure we’ll disagree on this but I don’t think this off season vs. last were strategically different. Only the tactics were and that was related to market conditions.”
    cb-

    i should have put a smiley face on my comment because it was more light hearted than how it came out. i’m happy right now , trust me.

    i think cashman learned that he went too far in his gamble on young pitching last year. i think he was trying to something he wasn’t used to doing. there is no spin that can make his commitment to hughes and kennedy sound like it was a legitimate tactic. he was just plain wrong.

    that said, he’s come to his senses and committed almost 500 million dollars to high priced quality veteran talent . now that’s using the resources a yankee gm has to use. to not use them would be foolhardy.

    as far as buying up things in a downturn because you have cash, aren’t you supposed to get things cheaper?
    sabathia, burnett, and teixeira were all paid top dollar.

    … but who’s quibbling, the yankees are the yankees again.

    (manny will still be the yankee dh someday. it’s just too much theatre and box office value to pass up )

  167. randy l December 23rd, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    “When does Mark Texreia win his MVP….09 OR 2010″

    2010 because arod wins them in the odd years.

  168. john December 23rd, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Hal proved to be a bit different than everyone thought at the end of the day didn’t he?

  169. Redding December 23rd, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Wow Trisha

    Damon
    Jeter
    Rodriguez
    Manny
    Teixeria
    Posada
    Cano
    Matsui/Nady/Swisher
    Matsui/Nady/Swisher

    Sabathia
    Peavy
    Wang
    Burnett
    Chamberlain

    nice

  170. Moneyball December 23rd, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Boston’s lineup is not the best in baseball. We haven’t seen Ortiz hit without Manny behind him for awhile now and he is coming off his worst year in awhile. Lowell had surgery this past season and Varitek looked like my sister at the plate. While the yankee lineup has its question marks too I would still take the NY lineup over BOS.

  171. S.o.S. December 23rd, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    “What ever happened to great pitching, solid offense, good clubhouse guys, and some role players?”

    Great Pitching-check-1 through 4
    Solid defense-check-Teix, Arod,Cano,Damon without the arm
    role players-check-Gardner and Molina.
    Clubhouse guys-Everyone on the team accept for Burnett maybe. If we sign Neives it would cancel out that negative.

  172. kill-schill(ing) December 23rd, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    YEHAWW!!!!!!!! WHOO HOOOO WHOO HOOO!!!!!

    Yeah, baby.

    Send Nady back to the Mets, put Swisher in RF and the circle will be complete.

    Hey, Nation, when the Evil Empire last met you we were but the learner, NOW WE ARE THE MASTER!!!!!!!

  173. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    trisha – CC and AJ and Sheets – OH MY!”
    December 23rd, 2008 at 5:12 pm
    I’m having some very conflicting emotions here…

    1. Things like this make me hate the Yankees in principle, only because I definitely have a bleeding heart for the “have not” teams. I truly feel sad for the Nats.

    ————————————————————

    A large part of the “have not teams” are “have not teams”
    because they chose to be. The Steinbrenner family is no where near the richest family in baseball. I have no sympathy for them in any way. If their fans feel hopeless, strike those teams en masse and force the owners to fix the issues.

  174. R+ December 23rd, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    Matsui would be the ideal one to move.

    He is also the hardest to move.

    Nady is the easiest to move and probably the 2nd most beneficial to move considering he is a free agent and isin’t as good a player as the other OFers.

  175. john December 23rd, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    Only thing with Tex. He is always a horrible starter and CC can be a slow starter as well. Hopefully they don’t crucify them too much right away !!! I can picture the Tino treatment for Tex when he starts playing before they fall in love with the guy. These guys got paid, but these are the guys you want to root for. A guy who’s ideal is Mattingly and a good guy. A guy like CC. No more Randy Johnsons, Kevin Browns, etc.

  176. trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY!" December 23rd, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    I have to say I understand the sentiment about buying the championship. I swear I could really be a lot more excited if the only teams in this particular sweepstakes were the “big boys.” Having Boston take this in the face of course is sweet beyond belief. But watching the Orioles and Nats lose out carries its own burden for me. But that’s just me and a problem I have with the real disparity between small-market and big-market towns, and teams that have a ton to spend, and teams that generally do not. That has always bothered me.

  177. Tom December 23rd, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    Are people seriously complaining about this?

  178. Alfred E. Kennedy December 23rd, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    What exactly is the definition of a role player?

    Is that someone who doesn’t have much talent and doesn’t make any money and who can’t hit?

  179. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    PAT M.
    December 23rd, 2008 at 5:19 pm
    When does Mark Texreia win his MVP….09 OR 2010…..Be certain theres one in his future…..Missed the Catfish Hunter signing anniversity by one day….Christmas Eve 1974, the day the Steinbrenner Yankee myth came to be born

    ————————————————————

    Thank you Charlie Finley and his mule. One of the few times that he outslickered himself.

  180. Ninja Burglar December 23rd, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    So does anyone want to take a stab at who’s going to be removed from the 40 man roster to make room for Tex? I’m guessing Shelly Duncan.

  181. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    “Even though the smoke signals were out there, they didn’t get a discount. It’s a lot of coin.”

    SJ,

    There’s no doubt it is a lot of money. I’ve said this before – Tex is a very, very good player but not a great one.

    On the flip side – the need was very large.

    So it wasn’t a slam dunk for them to do it or not. As time went on and I took a look at where I thought marginal wins would come from and where moves could be made it just seemed to make more and more sense.

    But I would have definitely respected the decision to pass given the dollars.

    8 years is a very long time and there’s a significant opportunity cost involved.

    But I’ve always felt the yankees have no problem paying true market value.

    What they don’t seem interested in doing anymore is paying absurd premiums, especially premiums ginned up by Boras.

    They took boras out of the process here so even though they spent a lot of money they were paying for talent not fluff.

    The market had reached an equilibrium price point for tex’s services – all the bids were close.

    And the yankees stepped in when the market had matured and paid the going rate.

    So they definitely didn’t get a discount. But I guess that’s not what they were truly looking for. The rhetoric and smoke and mirrors was intended in preventing the need to wildly overpay which is what would have happened if they got into a bidding war with the sox.

    You know this – as a proportion of payroll, the sox had a comparable amount coming off their books as the yankees have.

    The sox have money to burn this off season and getting into a bidding war with them would have been ugly. I think the sox may have won that auction.

    But the team prevented that from happenning and they got him at the going market rate.

    I went through the permutations alot – no other single move would be as helpful in increasing the teams marginal win total after signing CC than getting Tex and moving Damon to CF (or Swisher).

    I think that’s what we may see now.

    This is a 98-100 win team now if Pettite signs. That’s pretty much what they are.

    Tex would have won the Sox an additional 3 wins next year.

    Moving Tex to first, Swisher to left and Damon to CF makes the yankees 5 wins better.

    That is a shift of net 8 wins between these two teams. That’s how enormous this move is.

    It’s a tremendous collection of talent. Unbelievable.

    Hitting in front of Alex will only make Tex better. And he’s coming off arguably the two best years of his career. If he plays more like the last two years (especially like he did with the angels) then he’ll be a truly great player.

    And I do like the fact that tex wanted to be in pinstripes. He didn’t give a discount but he could have played anywhere – boston, la or ny. The money was roughly the same.

    But he picked the yanks. I think this is where he wanted to be and that’s why he had boras go back to cash to get a deal done.

  182. john December 23rd, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    I feel bad for the Twins because they have a billionare owner who doesn’t want to spend.

    Definitely don’t feel bad for the Sox and again not spending money they have to go $12 mill more over an 8 year contract to get a deal done…. similar to landing Arod !!!!

    Or the Mets. Or the Angels once again not wanting to spend money they have.

    Why hate the Yankees for putting money back into the team and at times operating in the red. They all get the money back in net team worth and the more popular baseball is the better it is for everyone.

    Now KC I feel bad for. They are just bad and probably have a great fan base.

  183. trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY!" December 23rd, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    Poor aardvark. I really do feel for you.

  184. JMAC December 23rd, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    One of the articles on MLBTR indicates that the contract does NOT include an opt out clause…sweet.

  185. Ed - CC and Wang, the Dynamite Duo. Get Dunn. December 23rd, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    “So does anyone want to take a stab at who’s going to be removed from the 40 man roster to make room for Tex? I’m guessing Shelly Duncan.”

    …or probably a trade.

  186. Peter Abraham December 23rd, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    Guys:

    I don’t ask much from people who post to the blog, I really don’t. But so far today two people have wished death on Peter Gammons and one person wanted me to die. Would it be OK if you didn’t wish death on people? Seriously, because the Yankees signed a 1B I should die?

    Also, if you’re going to try to pen a clumsy imitation of me, spell my name correctly.

    And don’t try and post as George Steinbrenner.

    As to “where I was” I am on vacation and I took my 8-year-old niece to see a movie. I’m not going to leave a kid in the movies to post on my blog. I am under no contractual obligation to update my blog while I am in vacation but I usually do.

    Finally, I’m glad they got Teixeira. I want to cover a good, interesting team. Why would I not? It’s good for me personally. I was duped by Brian Cashman and it won’t happen again. Lesson learned. Obviously the stuff the Yankees were selling about building from within, developing players and cutting payroll was total nonsense. I should have known better and I didn’t.

    I try not to make this blog boring otherwise people won’t read it. So I’ll have opinions and sometimes I’l be right and sometimes I’ll be wrong. That’s the way it goes.

    But can you leave out wishing I was dead? That doesn’t seem like too much to ask. Thanks.

  187. West side December 23rd, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    Baseball is a 3-team sport anyway between the Red Sox, Mets, and Yankees. Throw in the Cubs/Cardinals too.

    Also when they are winning, sprinkle in the Phillies, Dodgers, Giants, Braves.

    But baseball is limited to 3 teams pretty much, so in that regard I feel bad for the Nats and Orioles.

  188. NO HYPE December 23rd, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    *Ellsbury*/Cabrera — Cabrera. Better hitter but defense similar.

    *Pedroia*/Cano — Pedroia wins. If Cano has a normal Cano year it is very close but after last season Pedroia has the edge.

    Youk/*Texiera* — Texiera wins. Better hitter and better defense.

    Ortiz/*Matsui* — Matsui wins. Better overall player who can play in the field and when he is swinging his bat well is just as dangerous.

    *Drew*/Nady — Drew wins. Drew is a proven AL hitter.

    *Bay*/Damon — Bay wins. Great hitter, but same can be said for Damon as a lead off hitter. Much better defense though.

    Lowell/*A-Rod* — A-Rod no contest.

    Varitek/*Posada* — Posada is a better hitter and but is coming off surgery so it remains to be seen.

    Lowrie/*Jeter* — Better hitter and better leader.

  189. RJPinstripes December 23rd, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    Way to go Cash and the Steinbrenners. Yankee fans are pumped, other fans are in the dumps, can’t wait to hear…PLAY BALL !!!!!

  190. NO HYPE December 23rd, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    Yanks win my comparison 5-4

  191. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    “as far as buying up things in a downturn because you have cash, aren’t you supposed to get things cheaper?
    sabathia, burnett, and teixeira were all paid top dollar.”

    randy,

    First off – glad to hear that you are sharing the joy!

    I agree that cash looked back last year and saw mistakes. This is one of the things I like about him. He’s pragmatic and is willing to learn how to do things better.

    I also do think he’s had this off season in mind for a while with all of the old deals coming off and the talent available.

    I know this is might sound strange – but based on their expected performance the yankees are getting very good values on all of these players.

    Rates on the market are down around 13% right now compared to last year.

    Last year – there is no way the yanks could afford all 3 of these players.

    AJ is a huge risk. But on both CC and Tex they got very good values given the marginal wins each player will provide.

  192. Mike in SF December 23rd, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Sour grapes Pete, you’d think you’d be happy for the story and the hits your site is gonna get.

  193. kill-schill(ing) December 23rd, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Hey, that guy, LOST IN TEX might have known what he was talking about, after all. He insisted Teixeira wanted to play for the Yankees.

    So much for the rumors he hates A-Rod and didn’t want to play for him.

    WOW!

    I hope they now experiment with Melky and Gardner in CF before moving Damon back to CF.

    Does Swisher have a strong enough arm to play RF?

  194. Bill December 23rd, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Uhh Pete.. they are still building from within because I’m pretty sure no prospects were needed from any of the signings.

    Free Agency is used to fill holes, and that’s what they did. Just because Cash didn’t give you the full story doesn’t mean HE is wrong, or that he lied to you.

  195. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes December 23rd, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    NO HYPE,

    I’d take Ellsbury over Cabrera any day of the week.

    Melky really does suck…you realize this, no?

  196. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    The Yanks are overstocked with outfielders and trading Nady is the best option. Swisher has as much power (just lower average), he will walk more, a switch hitter and he’s more versatile than Nady and a much better fielder.

    Damon is a perfect leadoff hitter for NYY and there won’t be a huge market for Cabrera.

    Whoever gets Nady will most likely get an extra draft pick, next year if they don’t resign him. It needs to be a team that’s close to winning and needs that bat.

  197. NO HYPE December 23rd, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    I made a mistake, notice how Ellsbury was bolded.

  198. Thomas December 23rd, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    I don’t know why you believed Cashman in the first place!!
    It’s the NEW YORK YANKEES we’re talking about.
    I think you owe me an apology for all the comments about how it was so preposterous to even think Tex or Manny would become Yankees.

    You were the one fooled, not me.

    either way…

    LETS GO YANKEES!

  199. BBB December 23rd, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    Man, here’s hoping they find some way to avoid trading Nady, Swisher, Damon…or Matsui if eating salary/getting nothing back in return. All these guys together would really be the ultimate offense.

    Cashman has been making a big deal of wanting to get younger and better defensively. I bet Gardner will play CF – him and Swisher in the OF at the same time improves OF defense greatly. And as others have said, the addition of Teix recoups any offensive cost Gardner in the lineup might carry…while also providing great D at 1b. The Yankees can now potentially trot a lineup out there that’s better defensively than last year at 4 positions. Not bad!!!

    Anyway, I think they could stand pat at least until the deadline with all the guys they have now. Gardner getting about 60% of starts in center, Swish/Damon (vs. slower teams) the other 40%, and then a rotation of Damon/Swisher/Nady in right and left…well, obviously just w/o Damon in right. But that’s the gist of it. I’m most in favor of Matsui getting traded but they should wait till the deadline to eat less of his salary.

  200. LTL December 23rd, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Ed, agreed, roster space will come from a trade. Likely to see Matsui go to someone like the Angels–maybe for the Yanks # 1 picked lost in the Texiera signing. Yanks dump salary and maybe even pick up another infield glove.

  201. Ed - CC and Wang, the Dynamite Duo. Get Dunn. December 23rd, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    “Does Swisher have a strong enough arm to play RF?”

    not sure but has better accuracy. :D

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....7303227996

  202. NO HYPE December 23rd, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    Matsui is the team’s DH. Why would they trade him? He can also play in the field so its a no brainer to hold onto him. If anything, Nady leaves because he has more upside trade wise (younger and healthier).

  203. JOE ...NH December 23rd, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    Time to get Manny! Trade Matsui and make Manny the DH!

  204. John December 23rd, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    Teixeria “clutch stats”

    2008 playoffs:

    .467, 4 runs, 1 RBI, .550 OBP

    RISP – .308
    Bases Loaded – .615
    Man on 3rd, 2 outs – .484

    He has been well over .300 in clutch situations every year in his career.

  205. Ed - CC and Wang, the Dynamite Duo. Get Dunn. December 23rd, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    …i mean range**

  206. S.o.S. December 23rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Peter,
    How was that mouse movie? Better than Ratatouie?

  207. Whitey Fraud December 23rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Please don’t die, Pete.

    Ever.

  208. Matthew Cohen December 23rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    You have 5 players for 4 positions (LF, CF, RF, DH)
    Nady (R)
    Swisher (S)
    Damon (L)
    Matsui (L)
    Cabrera (S)

    Assuming 700 Plate appearances per full time player, that is 560 Plate appearances for each of 5 80% time players.

    Given that
    1) 2 of these guys are pretty old and shouldn’t play every day (Damon and Matsui)
    2) you likely want defensive replacements in late innings (Nady, Swisher and Cabrera make a very good defensive outfield)
    3) always nice to have a bat off the bench
    4) someone always gets hurt

    It makes perfect sense to keep all 5 guys if the budget permits.

  209. G. Love December 23rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Pete,

    There is no excuse for anyone wishing death on you or Gammons. People who do that should get a life.

    That said, your blog posts about this subject veered toward wet blanket condescension when people were suggesting that Cashman might have not been entirely truthful and the Yankees were still in the market for another big player.

    You seemed to suggest that because of your sources you knew better than the rest of us and frankly, in your position you should know better than the rest of us. I believe you were duped.

    But you also failed to acknowledge the fact that next years free agent crop is abysmal and the Yankees had 30 million plus coming off the books next year so adding another big hitter wasn’t as outlandish as you tried to suggest to us.

    As for the Yankees plan of getting younger and developing players, that is still going on. They’ve traded no one of note. They are still, technically, cheaper than last season’s squad.

    You do a great job here. No doubt about it. But you have to realize when you come out and throw down the gauntlet that the fans who are dreaming of Tex (or Manny) are out of their minds and the Yanks end up signing one of them, you become the teacher at the chalk board who just wrote 2 + 2 = 5.

    The personal attacks with death threats are disgusting.

    But ribbing you and Gammons who drives Yankee fans nutty is all in good fun.

  210. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    “When does Mark Texreia win his MVP….09 OR 2010…..Be certain theres one in his future…..Missed the Catfish Hunter signing anniversity by one day….”

    Pat M.,

    Once again I tip my hat to you. You called this from the start. You were as confident in Tex, his talent and him coming to the yanks as you’ve been about Hughes. I expect you’ll be write on both.

    When the word came out he’d signed one of the first things that came to mind was your prediction of a repeat of the catfish christmas eve signing. Off by a day – not so bad.

    I’m eager to see what tex does in this line up.

    The past two years of his career were the best he’s had. In particular, the level he played at in LA was phenomenal and I think it’s gotten forgotten a bit due to Manny just raking.

    If Tex continues this peak as he’s played the past two year they will be getting an unbelievable talent.

    Hitting in front of alex – I could see that MVP now.

  211. rodg12 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    CB,

    You ever look at permutations with Gardner/Melky getting the majority of the CF ABs and rotating Swisher/Nady/Matsui/Damon in the corners and DH? What’s the win total look like under that scenario?

  212. Ed - CC and Wang, the Dynamite Duo. Get Dunn. December 23rd, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    “If anything, Nady leaves because he has more upside trade wise (younger and healthier).”

    the Reds would be a good match for Nady. The Reds are **desperate** for a right handed bat.

  213. LTL December 23rd, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Peter, I share your concerns about some of the more juvenile responses here. Maybe it is time for registration on the blog. By the way, no need for you to feel that you were taken advantage of. Your job is to report, not make news. Cashman gave you the news the organization wanted you to have and you reported it. In that, you did a great job. Sure, as our favorite Yankee sportswriter we would like to see you get the scoop. But being the footsoldier for Cashman this off-season might be more useful to you in the long run. IN fact, were it me, I might even suggest to Cashman that you deserve an exclusive on a few things down the road.

  214. Deriuqer December 23rd, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    09 NYY
    Lineup
    1. LF Johnny Damon
    2. SS Derek Jeter
    3. 1B Mark Teixeira
    4. 3B Alex Rodriguez
    5. DH Hideki Matsui
    6. RF Xavier Nady
    7. C Jorge Posada
    8. 2B Robinson Cano
    9. CF Nick Swisher

    Bench
    10. C Jose Molina
    11. INF Cody Ransom
    12. OF Melky Cabrera?
    13. PR ?

    Rotation
    14. L CC Sabathia
    15. R A.J. Burnett
    16. R Chien-Ming Wang
    17. L Andy Pettitte?
    18. R Joba Chamberlain

    Bullpen
    19. R Mariano Rivera
    20. L Damaso Marte
    21. R Brian Bruney
    22. R Jose Veras
    23. R Alfredo Aceves
    24. R Edwar Ramirez?
    25. R ?

  215. kill-schill(ing) December 23rd, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    Thanks for that clip, Ed.

    Hey CB, what’s the deal with Swisher’s arm? Could the Yankees play Swisher in RF and trade Nady?

    The one thing I’m slightly forlorn about is that Tex’s signing ends whatever remote chance still existed for Abreu’s return.

    I hope Bobby signs with the Mets. I met Abreu once in a restaurant in the Meat Packing District. Really, really, nice guy. Sorry to see him go. I hope he stays in New York with the Mets. Either that or the Dodgers sign him.

  216. Sean December 23rd, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    I forgot how much money did they have coming off the books this year?

  217. Y's Guy December 23rd, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    YAY!!!! NO MANNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  218. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    “And as others have said, the addition of Teix recoups any offensive cost Gardner in the lineup might carry…”

    No it doesn’t. Tex’s value would be maximized if Damon can play CF (or swisher).

    They still cannot plan on relying on Gardner.

    Acquiring Tex may make it easier for them to give Gardner more of a look but Tex’s value is greatly increased if his acquisition gets gardner out of the line up.

  219. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    Ed – CC and Wang, the Dynamite Duo. Get Dunn.
    December 23rd, 2008 at 5:40 pm
    “If anything, Nady leaves because he has more upside trade wise (younger and healthier).”

    the Reds would be a good match for Nady. The Reds are desperate for a right handed bat.

    ————————————————————

    I think the Dodgers would be the perfect spot for him if Ramirez doesn’t return. Whoever is traded, though, won’t happen until the FA outfielders are picked over. There are too many that won’t cost players or draft picks.

  220. Newark Bears December 23rd, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    I bet Peavy would LOVE to join this team now.

    Trade for him

  221. randy l December 23rd, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    “I also do think he’s had this off season in mind for a while with all of the old deals coming off and the talent available.”

    cb

    this part , i believe, and he’s probably looking at next year with matsui and damon coming off. all that needs to happen in any one year is for two of these three players (sabathia, burnett, and teixeira) to have good years for this to help the yankees tremendously.

    when theo signed matsuzaka, lugo ,and drew all it took was one of the three to work out well to give them a champioship. drew came back last year and matsuzaka got even better so they had two of three last year which made them a very strong team.

    it’s a similar probability game that gives the yankees the luxury of rolling the dice with burnett. two of these three players will likely have very good years by their standards most years. that’s all that needs to happen for these signings to work out for the yankees.

  222. Ed - CC and Wang, the Dynamite Duo. Get Dunn. December 23rd, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    kill-schill(ing)

    this should explain the arm, even though its from 1B:

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....6253005206

  223. Sean December 23rd, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    how much money do they yankees have coming off the books this year

  224. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    “You ever look at permutations with Gardner/Melky getting the majority of the CF ABs and rotating Swisher/Nady/Matsui/Damon in the corners and DH? What’s the win total look like under that scenario?”

    96-97 wins. Around that.

    If they replace Gardner/Melky with Damon they are close to 99-100 wins.

    If Gadner/ melky can’t be league average they shouldn’t play. Not on a team that is so close to winning a WS.

    This also makes bringing back Pettite more important – not less important.

  225. teddy December 23rd, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    5 stars pete, the death stuff guys are losers, you man up and admitted it, just have to move on. i agree why wouldn’t you want more stars, is for more better stort. rsn is crying the mets aren’t happy. i love this blog, you do a great job. nobody perfect, see 18 and 1, from this giant fan. jk.

  226. vtred December 23rd, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Kellerman is the best

    Glad he was on today during the afternoon

  227. Carlo December 23rd, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    I HAD A FEELING… My theory was Tex wanted to play for the Yankees all along that’s why they were waiting for the offer from the yankees…. Good job Cash… You made the right decision Tex….

  228. Marky McFly December 23rd, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    I love the term, “The Death Star”!!!!

    What a way to start in the new Stadium…

    2009 will be a great year… Merry Christmas!

  229. Peter Abraham December 23rd, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    GLove:

    If people want to rib me, great, Bring it on. Sports should be fun. But when people start wishing me dead and saying vile things about my family, I’m not sure what I’m supposed to do. I never really anticipated that. I try to have fun with my blog and engage the readers. Maybe that was a mistake.

    Like I said, I’m glad they signed Teixeira. I hope they sign Manny, too. Bring it on. I want to cover an interesting team. Whether it’s here or elsewhere, you should all have a good team to watch and comment about.

  230. kill-schill(ing) December 23rd, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    Hey, BTW, just for the record. Since Yankee fans’ ranting about Peter Backgammons has carried them from hyperbole into insanity, I thought I should clarify.

    I don’t wish to kill Schill. I do wish him ill however. Something like, I don’t like chronic laryngitis, carpal tunnel syndrome, or an intractably bloody ankle. Nothing serious. Just something worthy of poetic justice.

    Kill-Schill sounds so much more resonant than Ill-Schill however.

  231. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    “what’s the deal with Swisher’s arm? Could the Yankees play Swisher in RF and trade Nady? ”

    Swisher has a good arm and actually plays a very good RF. I’m sure this was part of the attraction in that trade.

    They can trade nady if they want to.

    I wouldn’t however. He’s in his walk year. The team still has age with Damon and Matsui.

    Nady is not the one to go. It should be Gardner/ Melky.

    Nady should only go if they get back an above average CF in the deal.

    If they can package Nady+some prospects for an attractive CF who can hit and play good defense then it would be worth it.

    Those CF are few and far between however so i think they’re best off keeping nady.

  232. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    Sean
    December 23rd, 2008 at 5:46 pm
    how much money do they yankees have coming off the books this year

    ————————————————————

    Unless my math is wrong, NYY could still sign Pettitte at 10 mil and be at about 200 mil….9 mil less than last year.

  233. Chris Mortenson December 23rd, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    Looks like Jesus Montero is expendable now.

    He isin’t going to stay at catcher with Romine and Higashoki there.

    The DH spot will be filled by A-Rod or Jeter after they move from the field.

    Montero is a stiff and will not survive in the outfield. So where does he play?

  234. rodg12 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    CB,

    Thanks. As long as Damon can hold up in CF, I think that’s what they have to do. Cash did float the line out there either last week or a little earlier that Damon can still play CF. I’d also think that having Nady and Swisher flanking him should help to make up for some of the range he’s lost.

  235. t-rock December 23rd, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    Anybody who makes more than $10 million dollars these days get a no-trade clause.

  236. Y's Guy December 23rd, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    pete you’re still the man, tons of ppl had this wrong!

    Merry Christmas hope you’re having a great time with your family and thats for all your hard work this year.

  237. kill-schill(ing) December 23rd, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    CB, wait, you’re the guy always preaching defense, n’est-pas?

    Wouldn’t trading Melky/Gardner result in Damon playing substantial time in CF? Or do you assume they’d trade for Cameron.

    I’m very surprised a champion of defense like you CB would favor playing Damon in CF. Damon is a worse CF than Abreu was in RF, no?

  238. Espresso December 23rd, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Damn the torpedoes the Cashman should package a some guys to get Ichiro for center.

    I think it should be Damon with healthy dose of Melky and Gardner.

  239. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    “it’s a similar probability game that gives the yankees the luxury of rolling the dice with burnett. ”

    This is exactly right. Now when you see the caliber of the team they are assembling and its depth you can see why they were willing to take on risk for AJ.

    In many ways roster spots are more valuable to the yanks than money is. This is a major way the yanks business model is entirely different than other teams.

    It’s the value of that roster spot that made burnett’s upside worth the risk.

    If the doesn’t work out – so be it. It’s only money risked. They still have hughes and aceves.

    But I’m hopeful on AJ. If he takes that next step forward – forget it.

    They are going for the kill this year.

  240. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes December 23rd, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Out of Nady, Damon, Swisher, and Matsui, I trade Matsui STRICTLY because of recent injuries.

    Hitters rely on their knees, he had two knee surgeries in less than 12 months.

    Pawn him off for a decent mid-level prospect or a reasonable bench player.

  241. teddy December 23rd, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    pete just have their post deleted, i wish you can ban ip address, those people are losers with no character. though i never meant you you seem like a quality guy.

  242. RhapsodyInBlue December 23rd, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    “Montero is a stiff and will not survive in the outfield. So where does he play?”

    Probably what Wally Pipp thought of the Iron Horse when he took his day off. These things always have a way of working out, let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

  243. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    Chris Mortenson
    December 23rd, 2008 at 5:51 pm
    Looks like Jesus Montero is expendable now.

    He isin’t going to stay at catcher with Romine and Higashoki there.

    The DH spot will be filled by A-Rod or Jeter after they move from the field.

    Montero is a stiff and will not survive in the outfield. So where does he play?

    ————————————————————

    Montero is going absolutely nowhere. He has legitamate 40 homer power, hits for high average and is a better catcher than Romine. Romine is going nowhere, either.

  244. t-rock December 23rd, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    Steve Phillips on SportsCenter

  245. POOSE8 December 23rd, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    WOW
    johny lf
    jeet ss
    arod 3b
    tex 1b
    nady rf
    swish cf
    zilla dh
    posada c
    cano 2b

  246. Joe from Long Island December 23rd, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    Just getting home – went crazy listening to the radio in the car.

    There’s nothing I can add to all that’s been posted here in the last few hours. CB, Pat M, SJ44, Doreen, randy, ks…
    great reading.

    I will just say that I would be very happy with Damon in CF (with Melky or Gardner spelling him), and Nady and Swish at the corners. If they want a CF, and let Damon play left, then look to deal Nady. But, they don’t have to do anything at this point, which puts them in a very strong position to potentially deal.

    Great day. Lots to celebrate.

    Go to it, everyone!

    P.S. – Pete – don’t beat yourself. Cash isn’t going to spill his guts to the writers, for obvious reasons. And who knows, he may have been totally honest in what he told you at the time. After all, as my wife tells me, in the business world, things can change.

  247. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    The Mad Prince in Pinstripes
    December 23rd, 2008 at 5:56 pm
    Out of Nady, Damon, Swisher, and Matsui, I trade Matsui STRICTLY because of recent injuries.

    Hitters rely on their knees, he had two knee surgeries in less than 12 months.

    Pawn him off for a decent mid-level prospect or a reasonable bench player.

    ————————————————————

    He’s not tradable until he proves that he’s healthy.He’s also a much better hitter than Nady.

  248. Zolio December 23rd, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    Montero could just be a full-time DH.

    Who else is going to occupy that spot? A-Rod seems destined to spend his career in the field. Jeter will likely move to left when he leaves SS.

    Posada is the only one who this may affect, but he can always be a backup catcher/DH/1B kind of guy when he can’t catch full time.

  249. arial December 23rd, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    Cashman is not through. There will be further changes, some expected, and others not.

  250. rover December 23rd, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    humm, Does this mean, that if everyone lives up to expectations. We can just about promise the sux pitching staff 11 to 14 losses. I know, you still have to play the games. Sixteen losses would give us bragging rights for an eternity, god would that be fun.

  251. Joe from Long Island December 23rd, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    CB at 5:56 – you’ve summed up their business model.

  252. Tarheelyank December 23rd, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    Tex, CC, AJ- Now I understand the arbitration decisons!

  253. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    “I’m very surprised a champion of defense like you CB would favor playing Damon in CF. Damon is a worse CF than Abreu was in RF, no?”

    Not even close. Abreu was 15-20 runs worse in RF compared to league average. In LF damon was 10-15 runs better than league average.

    I know you don’t believe in defensive metrics. I’m actually not a huge subscriber to them either though it may seem that way.

    I do believe defense is very important. And what the numbers give you a sense of is if the player is above average, average or below and by how much. The kind of conclusions you can draw aren’t that granular – it’s basicall he’s bad vs. he’s awful. That kind of thing.

    I’m hoping Damon can be ok in CF. In CF his bat becomes a huge plus.

    Here’s the thing on Damon. Did they move him from CF due to concerns that he was wearing down/ getting injured there or due to poor fielding?

    Forget his arm – it stinks in CF it will stink in LF. But if he still has the range to play CF they should give it a shot.

    I think they moved him more due to wearing down.

    Gardner/melky could make outs at very high rates and no team can afford that day to day.

    When Damon had trouble and was moved to LF he was out of shape.

    Last year he came into camp in much better shape. Maybe he can hold up in CF for 120 games.

    Not everyday. You play gardner in large CF and against teams that run alot – rays and angels. Rest matsui and dh damon. Something like that.

  254. PAT M. December 23rd, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    CB….You and I agree that the Yankee fans will love him and his style of play, hard nose ball player,a throw back…..The stars were perfectly aligned for this, as Giambi played out his contract and Texeria becomes available….What it does mean , is that Jetes will be going out about 30 yards deeper for relays and cutoffs…..Over all this team just improved itself by leaps and bounds…I know you ran the numbers but maybe some here didn’t grasp the importance of his arrival to the Bronx and not Beantown…….CC, AJ & Tex….Wow….No Jennifer Aniston this Christmas, however I did get everything else I wanted…..

  255. Tom December 23rd, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    I like the idea of Swisher over Nady in RF. Swisher has more power and a higher OBP.

    Bat him 8th before Gardner/Melky. He’d be perfect there because he will not expand his strike zone.

  256. James December 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    Phillips and Olney said this doesn’t put us atop of the division automatically because the Rays still have terrific young pitching.

  257. Ed - CC and Wang, the Dynamite Duo. Get Dunn. December 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    “He’s not tradable until he proves that he’s healthy.He’s also a much better hitter than Nady.”

    agreed. plus, this coming season is most likely will be Matsui’s last as he might retire and head back to Japan.

  258. Vrsce December 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    CB

    You have summed it up precisely: “they are going for the kill this year”.

    Their moves make sense, a 1 billion dollar stadium to fill, and the YES network. They need to have a very successful season as they can not afford to miss the playoffs, especially if the Mets advance. Tex was prudent, not signing him would have been penny wise and pound foolish.

    You are not quite right about Burnett, he has steadily improved since his tj surgery. he will win 20 games.

  259. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! December 23rd, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    “I like the idea of Swisher over Nady in RF. Swisher has more power and a higher OBP. ”

    which I think Nady will be traded if anything happens.

  260. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    “As long as Damon can hold up in CF, I think that’s what they have to do. Cash did float the line out there either last week or a little earlier that Damon can still play CF.”

    I noticed cash said that. Not sure but I thought that comment was helping to set some expectations.

    We’ll see. If the feel comfortable playing damon in CF this becomes a fantastic team.

    One other thing about Damon in CF – he’ll be helped by playing next to Swisher who has very good range for a corner of. Swisher is a good fit for LF in yankees stadium.

  261. gianthinker December 23rd, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    People need to remember what I’ve preached since day one. First of all, the goal every year is to go below what you paid the year before. Second, going over budget for ONE SEASON is not going to stop you from making a commitment to a player you want on your team for the NEXT DECADE. Great job Ca$hman. You made my off-season. Great early B-Day present for me!!!! (Dec. 26th baby)

  262. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    Go figure. The Mets are trying to buy a title. They’re negociating with Lowe, now. Who do they think they are? The Yankees?

  263. Kevin December 23rd, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    Best off season ever?

  264. HANK S December 23rd, 2008 at 6:11 pm

    ASK AND YE SHALL RECEIVE!!

  265. I want Michael Kay's job December 23rd, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    SJ,
    What is your take on all the signings. I happened to agree with you 6 months ago when you stressed the importance of grind it out, fight for crown type of team as opposed to a bunch of all-stars on the field with a “me” mentality. Seems like they are more of an “all-star” team then ever which cemented their demise last year. Interested on your take.

  266. speedoftime December 23rd, 2008 at 6:13 pm

    Why not offload Matsui to a West Coast team (that he will agree to be traded to) for a few scraps at this point? Matsui no longer serves a need for the Yankees. The OF should consist of NADY/GARDNER/SWISHER/DAMON.

    I just don’t understand why people are calling for Nady’s head when he has produced decently since he has been a Yankee.

  267. Reno December 23rd, 2008 at 6:13 pm

    Can you guys stop pretending Nick Swisher can handle CF? Either Melky or Gardener should be out there with this lineup. Damon in LF, Nady in RF, and Matsui/Swisher splitting time at DH.

  268. Waldan December 23rd, 2008 at 6:13 pm

    Time for baseball to get a salary cap

  269. RSM December 23rd, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    This deal was a must for one major reason…keep Tex from Boston.

    Mission accomplished.

  270. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! December 23rd, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    “Can you guys stop pretending Nick Swisher can handle CF?”

    but Swisher could handle the corner OF better than CF.

  271. G. Love December 23rd, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    Pete,

    Don’t sweat it. The people wishing that kind of garbage on you (and yours) are lowlifes. You know that.

    On a different note, I agree with the poster above who mentioned you should use this as a bargaining chip with Cashman for a future exclusive.

    He clearly sold you hard on a bill of goods that wasn’t accurate and he owes you in my book. I’d definitely try to use this one as currency with him.

    Have a good holiday and don’t let the morons get you down.

  272. Guard December 23rd, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    They need to try and squeeze the press conference in tomorrow afternoon.

  273. Reno December 23rd, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    “One other thing about Damon in CF – he’ll be helped by playing next to Swisher who has very good range for a corner of. Swisher is a good fit for LF in yankees stadium.”

    This isn’t true. Swisher was a butcher in the OF last season. -1.3 UZR.

  274. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    “I know you ran the numbers but maybe some here didn’t grasp the importance of his arrival to the Bronx and not Beantown…….”

    Pat M,

    I wrote this in a long post before so it may have gotten buried.

    But adding Tex to boston would have won them an additional 3 games. So Tex to boston – +3.

    Tex to the yankees also wins an additional 3 games.

    If Tex goes to 1b and Damon can play CF then the yankees are around 5 wins better.

    So Tex going to the yankees while not going to the Sox is a gain of 6-8 games for the yankees.

    A 6-8 game swing in such a tight division is enormous.

    Boston has a very good team but this is a true loss for them.

    I’d written before that if Boston lost tex it wouldn’t be devastating – they’d be ok.

    But i never thought that boston would both lose tex and that he would then go to the yankees.

    Boston loses Tex to the angels. They are ok.

    Losing him to a division competitor is truly devastating.

    Boston finished 6 games ahead of the yanks last year.

    I think the yankes are at least 10 games better than they were last year.

    Theo has his work cut out now – he absolutely cannot stand pat.

    They need to get another starting pitcher, they need to ugrade their bull pen and quite honestly the should cut ties with Varitek and upgrade their catching spot.

    The swing of Tex being seeming to be so close to the sox only to wind up with the yanks is enormous.

  275. Drain003 December 23rd, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    Nady is the one that will get traded. He is in the last year of his deal and is the weakest of our OF/DH types.

    Swisher was only able to get CHW a package of Marquez and Betemit… it’s not like the guy is loaded with trade value.

  276. michelle (X is the best letter in the alphabet!) December 23rd, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Stop bagging on pete, most of us on this bored had no idea tex would be a yankee…if it werent for him we wouldnt have a decent blog to comment on. Pete, thanks for being wrong, right and in between. Keep up the good work.

  277. Soul December 23rd, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Nady is the only one of the bunch that actually can be moved.

    Matsui is a DH, makes $13 million, and has a no trade clause.

    Damon isin’t going anywhere and has a NTC anyway

    Swisher still has 3 years left on his deal and makes a ton of money. Cashman isin’t paying him $8 million to sit on the bench.

    Nady is a FA next year and cheaper than the other 3 guys.

  278. bru December 23rd, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    PittsburghYankeeFan
    December 23rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm
    To the Sawx fans out there—tough noogies. Let John Henry find some of his hedge fund $$$ (oops, he may not have it anymore) to pay the extra $10 million it would have taken. Don’t give deadlines, and don’t negotiate in the press.

    Pete, I think the key here is the salary distribution for 2009. CC is only in at $14 million. After 2009, Damon and Matsui come off the books-that’s another $26 million. Assume Pettitte signs for one year-one of the kids will replace him and his $10 million in 2010.

    Even with Tex and Pettitte, the salary comes in at around $180-190 million, and they have a stocked farm to go get some cost controlled bats and a catcher in the coming years.

    You have to win it on the field, but this team appears set for at least the next 3-4 years, with an excellent plan going forward.

    My guess is that the payroll peaks at around $185 million in 09, and goes down after that.

    ————————————————————

    i agree.you hit it right on.

    after 09 pettitte,damon,molina,nady come off for a total of about 44 million.they should be sitting around 174 million & we shouldn’t need many players if ajax is in the mix.

    outside of the pitchers,tex,arod,cano we don’t have anybody signed for that long.

    posada 3 yrs,jeter & mo coming up,nady,damon,matsui,molina after 09 & we kept most of our prospects.

    tex makes us a whole lot better.

    they would not have signed tex if they couldn’t afford it.

    the red sox are sweating right now.

  279. AJ YANKS December 23rd, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    If Cashman wanted to play Damon in CF full-time, then you could keep all of them

    DH – Matsui
    LF – Nady
    CF – Damon
    RF – Swisher
    1B – Teix

  280. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    “This isn’t true. Swisher was a butcher in the OF last season. -1.3 UZR.”

    You’re misreading the stats because you’re not considering the context of the numbers.

    Swisher was playing out of position last year as they were forcing him to play CF.

    He’s not a CF. He’s just not. So the reason why his UZR was -1.3 was because he was -3.8 in 70 games in CF. He was +3.3 in LF and average in RF.

    Now all of these samples for Swisher’s UZR are very small because he moved around the diamond.

    So to get a better sense of how swisher would play defense in the corner you have to look at a period of time when he played there regularly.

    In 2005 Swisher played 121 games in a very large, tough to play RF in oakland – he was +7.6. In 2007 he played 57 games and was +8.7.

    Those are much better baseline estimates for how swisher will play a corner outfield than his net -1.3 which is disproportionately weighte by his time in CF where he was playing out of postion and said so himself.

    And as a whole its notable that Swisher wasn’t worse than he was in CF last year. He wasn’t good – but he wasn’t horrible either.

    It’s a very common phenomenon that when you take a marginal defensive CF and move him to a corner spot he becomes a true plus defender. While his range may be marginal for CF that same range becomes plus in a corner.

    Swisher will be a good defensive corner OF, particularly if he gets to do what he often doesn’t get a chance to do – play the same position day in and out.

    You have to look at context to understand the statistics.

  281. Al from BK December 23rd, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    “Phillips and Olney said this doesn’t put us atop of the division automatically because the Rays still have terrific young pitching.”

    Any ESPN tool who says we are still a 3rd place team has no idea what they are talking about. Sux bullpen is relatively mediocre except Papelbum and Okajima/DelCarmen, our line-up is now officially the best in baseball and our rotation is better than Boston’s considering their 4/5 starters will be Wakefield/Buchholz. Rays are better? CC/Wang/AJ>Beckett/Lester/Dice-K.

  282. Aaron(the better Aaron) December 23rd, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    someone whose good at cropping, make a pic of tex, haha

  283. Tarheelyank December 23rd, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    Swish is not going anywhere. He gives Giradi so much flexability.

    With Damon, Nady, Melky, Gardner and Swish we can field an all LH or RH outfield. With a defensive late inning upgrade.

    He’s also our back-up 1B.

  284. kill-schill(ing) December 23rd, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    CB, totally agree about Damon in LF. It’s to Damon in CF that I was making the Abreu comparison.

    I worry about Johnny in CF, less because of his arm than his diminished range and the wear on his knees and calves. His arm is a liability, I agree, wherever he plays.

    Damon was terrible in CF however when the Yankees moved him there after August 15 following Melkman’s demotion. I know you recall Johnny dropped those two balls in CF. He also didn’t reach others. Which I think explains why they tried Gardner there.

    Perhaps, the move disoriented Johnny because he’d played LF all season, but his play still unnerves me.

    Even more disconcerting however is the leg cramps Damon seems to develop from playing prolonged periods in CF.

    The two position I actually like defensively proficient players, as long as they’re not totally inept at the plate, are catcher and CF. What’s the difference between total ineptitude and serviceable?

    I don’t know. But I know when I see it. Molina is a liability in the lineup, for example, despite being a great catcher. Melky last year was an offensive albatross, but not in 2007.

    I don’t know how Gardner or Melky’s bat would qualify for next year.

    However, if the Yanks get production from Posada at Catcher and at every other position on the field, I’d like to see the Yankees give Gardner or Melky an opportunity in CF.

    Just watching Gardner run the bases makes me giddy.

  285. Sal in the ATX December 23rd, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    Yankee’s should add Manny

  286. Tom December 23rd, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    This is the perfect offseason.

    The pro CC people got their wish.

    The pro Teixeira people got their wish.

  287. rover December 23rd, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    start a poll or pool even. who is the first sux pitcher to throw at tex?
    with all that hatred going on in the nation, you just know it is going to happen. But when?

  288. Al from BK December 23rd, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    “Rays are better? CC/Wang/AJ>Beckett/Lester/Dice-K.”

    I meant. CC/Wang/AJ>Kazmir/Shields/Garza. Also besides Price what young stud pitchers do they have? Please dont say Sonnanstine.

  289. Matthew Cohen December 23rd, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    Matsui was hurt last year
    Damon the year before

    We need all 5 players for the 5 positions.

    We save peanuts trading Nady.

  290. RSM December 23rd, 2008 at 6:30 pm

    If Cashman wanted to play Damon in CF full-time, then you could keep all of them

    DH – Matsui
    LF – Nady
    CF – Damon
    RF – Swisher
    1B – Teix

    __________________________________________________________

    As much as it pains me to watch Damon throw, I think this plan makes sense. They can keep Melky or Gardner around for late inning defensive replacement.

  291. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 6:30 pm

    “This isn’t true. Swisher was a butcher in the OF last season. -1.3 UZR.”

    Also – just so you know. A -1.3 UZR is not even close to being “butcher.”

    -1.3 runs is slightly below average.

    Abreu was -15 runs last year by UZR. That’s a butcher.

  292. SJ44 December 23rd, 2008 at 6:31 pm

    Three things strike me about this move:

    1. Believe it or not, and the naysayers won’t believe it, this does follow what Cashman said he wants to do this off-season. Get younger, more athletic and improve the defense.

    2. While, Pete, myself and just about anybody else with a few Yankees sources may have been “duped”, I don’t think its a bad thing.

    When Pettitte turned down his deal, and the Cameron deal went bye bye, you knew there was 20 million (at least) left to make a move. The question was, would Tex take less money to play for the Yankees? To his credit, he did leave money on the table to come to NY. He would have gotten more money and years from the Nationals.

    3. You can’t quite say enough how fun it is to snatch him from the Red Sox. Thursday night, according to Gammons and every Sox shill in the media, he was going to be a Red Sox.

    Tonight, he’s a Yankee.

    As a Yankee fan, you can’t get enough of stiffing the Sox. You just can’t.

    Now we get a chance to listen to several days of “the Yankees are bad for baseball” from the media elite. Can’t get enough of that for my tastes! lol

    As for the folks who show their mental deficiencies with death threats, really, get a life.

    You do realize that if Pete wanted to, he could easily report you to the authorities. Before you threaten somebody over the internet, I suggest you check the laws in your state regarding that type of behavior. They aren’t friendly to you.

    If you want to bust chops on Pete, me or anybody else who didn’t see this coming, I think you can do so without playing internet tough guy, don’t you?

    Especially since, if you go too far in that arena, you are in serious violation of the law.

  293. S.A.-Brian "The Ninja" Cashman: Showing free agents lots of love December 23rd, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    Well today has sure been an exciting day. :)

  294. Cash is just as good as money December 23rd, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    Girardi is on the hot seat now… no excuses.

  295. Doreen December 23rd, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    I think this news is finally sinking in. I have been waiting for the Yankees to go after Mark Teixeira for two years. I have been waiting for Jason Giambi to no longer block the way to a good defensive first baseman.

    I thought, truly, that once CC and AJ were signed, along with the Swisher trade, that the Yankees really were not going to go hard after Teixeira. I had resigned myself to the Yankees not getting Teixeira, and I would have understood – the years and the cost being pretty high. I was rooting for the Orioles or the Nationals to take him.

    I am very, very happy that Mark Teixeira is now a Yankee and that I have not learned how to spell his name in vain! :lol:

    CB – I have truly enjoyed reading all your posts with regard to this process. Very interesting, but also very informative.

    I love the stealth of Brian Cashman. He is a master.

    When’s the press conference?

    Also, as much as I want to hear the words, “the Yankees have signed free agent Mark Teixeira,” I will be avoiding the television/radio reports. Because immediately following those words are the usual sour grapes that deal with the Yankees spending money. And then they throw in some negative about Teixeira that never would come to light had the Red Sox signed him. Sigh. Such is life as a Yankee fan. Not allowed to enjoy our moments. Except here.

    YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :)

  296. speedoftime December 23rd, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    Well whatever happens will be but hopefully the Yankees end up keeping Nady and putting him on the field almost every game. His numbers are too good to let go for basically nothing:
    555 AB/169 Hits/25 HR/.357 OBA/.305 BA
    C
    an’t find a RISP stat (why isn’t that stat used anymore?) but seemed to produce when needed last year. And yes I know those stats are also lumped in before he was a Yankee.

  297. Espresso December 23rd, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    I don’t see how this doesn’t make the Yankees the favorite in the division. The Yankees have to take a couple more wins from each team in the head to head match ups. Those games are big swings. The Yankees won 89 games last year, so it isn’t like they are trying to worst to first. Bottom line the Sox are on the outside looking in come October.

    The Yankees have improved the defense, offense and pitching. What’s left? The only question is Jorge’s arm, but Molina can catch more games against the Rays and Angels if needed.

  298. PAT M. December 23rd, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    CB,,,Your team win profile is staggering….Major swing ….John Kruk and Steve Phillips, and Peter Gammons….Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Years.,It’s going to be a good one for the interlocking NY

  299. Pel December 23rd, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    Seriously… ESPNEWS right now, “Is what the Yankees are doing bad for baseball?”

    Pig disgusting.

  300. Yankee Trader December 23rd, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    CB and all, would welcome your comments, and Happy Holidays to all. As Tiny Tim in Dicken’s Christmas Carol said, ” God bless us, everyone.”

    Just learned a short while ago that we got Teixeira, and have been scanning the previous blogs.

    Tex wanted to be a Yankee-play for a contender, be closer to his parents, and might have had some resentment about his dealings with Boston when coming out of high school.Does anyone know the details of the contract-signing bonus? evenly spaced out payments? I know there’s a NTC and no opt out in the deal.

    We shaved some 88 Million off the 2008 payroll with the loss of Giambi, Abreu,Pavano, Mussina, Hawkins, et al.

    CB’s idea of playing Damon in CF most of the time with Nady in RF and Swisher in LF makes most sense, with Gardner/Melky as a late inning replacement. No need to trade any of them as all will need a day off, and return won’t be worth it. Anyway, for what it’s worth, Nady was 2nd to Markakis in RF assists at the time of the trade to NY. Swisher and Nady add versatility to the team, and don’t need to be traded as of now.

    We do not need Manny, nor will we get him. Let him go the way of Bonds, for all I care. Both are cheaters as far as I’m concerned. Manny cheated his team by not playing all out.

    Tex is a great clubhouse presence according to John Schuerholtz.

    Question? Has anyone with NYY come out and said where Tex will bat? What makes most sense-A Rod’s speed at #3 with Tex cleanup? or visa versa?

  301. Al from BK December 23rd, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    Allow me to end the line-up speculation.

    Damon-LF(its his best position and he is still good enough to play the field)
    Jeter-SS
    Tex-1B(Gold Glover)
    A-Rod-3B
    Matsui-DH
    Posada-C
    Cano-2B
    Swisher-RF(takes over for Nady)
    Gardner-(incredible speed for the end of the line-up if he could only learn to get on base)

    Trading Nady would give Girardi some breathing room and Swisher would be a bargain playing RF.

  302. Doreen December 23rd, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    Oh, SJ44, it is definitely NOT a bad thing that so many people were “duped” by Cashman. This would not have gotten done had he been transparent. I only hope people can now appreciate the “bland” character that is Brian Cashman – the man of a thousand words revealing nothing. :)

  303. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    Bob Ryan is almost in tears. Talking about NYY signing the three, but, focused on Sabathia’s innings, bad PS and saying he’s over 300 pounds and will only get bigger. He did admit that NYY getting Teixeira was a killer because of the uncertainty og Ortiz and Lowell.

  304. SJ44 December 23rd, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    Yeah, what the Yankees are doing is really “bad” for baseball.

    Here it is, the middle of bowl season, as well as the final week of the NFL season, and what is the lead story? Baseball.

    Yes, that’s REALLY bad for baseball.

    Its bad for people that hate the Yankees. Its not bad for baseball in the slightest.

  305. AROD fan December 23rd, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    Not to be redundant, but the secret to a good gift is often surprise. Would you really have preferred Pete Abe just told us the Yankees were going to sign all the free agents we wanted? How fun would that have been?

  306. YankeeJosh December 23rd, 2008 at 6:42 pm

    An added bonus of getting Teixeira, AJ and CC in one off-season is that the Yankees only lose one first round draft pick. If the team had waited until next year to sign Holliday, that would have been another first rounder lost. As it is, the Yanks got CC for a second round pick, which is excellent.

  307. Alfred December 23rd, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    SJ can you tell us what your long-term view of this contract will hold for the yankees? Will Mark Texwhateva have a better yankee tenure than Jason Giambi?

  308. Aaron(the better Aaron) December 23rd, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    Nadys a better player then Swisher, what bargain would that be?? people like kill the buzz going around about tex.. I hate these stupid ideas..

  309. Aaron(the better Aaron) December 23rd, 2008 at 6:44 pm

    this is for all red sox fans
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....8;index=13

  310. Alfred December 23rd, 2008 at 6:44 pm

    SJ can you tell us what your long-term view of this contract will hold for the yankees? Will Mark Texwhateva have a better yankee tenure than Jason Giambi in the eight year deal?

  311. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    “Believe it or not, and the naysayers won’t believe it, this does follow what Cashman said he wants to do this off-season. Get younger, more athletic and improve the defense.”

    Absolutely. What people missed was that Cashman wanted to spend money in order to get younger, more athletic and improve the defense rather than doing it by trading the young players they’d worked so hard to draft.

    Right now if they keep Nady they will have 4-5 player 30 or under in the starting line up (depending on Gardner/melky).

    They will have 4 starting pitchers younger than 32.

    Other than Mo and Marte the entire bull pen is under 30.

    Boston has been lauded and rightfully so for building from within and having a young team that plays good defense.

    Boston has also have 5 position players under 30.

    Boston will have 3-4 starters under 32.

    Think about how old the yankees were on opening day of 2008 and how young and vibrant the sox were.

    In terms of age and athleticism the teams are now almost equal.

  312. I want Michael Kay's job December 23rd, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    It’s definitely a nice piece of news, especially in NYC considering everything else going on.. Retail sales down, recession to loom, layoffs. Nice to read this in terms of hopefully a promising ’09 for the Yanks

  313. Doreen December 23rd, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    You know, I really have to go and make my meatballs and a few other things. But, it’s very difficult to tear myself away from this.

    Enjoy the holidays, fellow Yankees fans. At least we know they’re making a SERIOUS effort for the next few seasons. No matter what happens (because no one knows what can happen), we need to remember the Yankees have surely put their money where their goals are.

    I’m actually feeling a bit giddy. :)

  314. AROD fan December 23rd, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    Damon LF
    Jeter SS
    Tex 1B
    A-Rod 3B
    Manny DH
    Posada C
    Cano 2B
    Nady RF
    Gardner CF

    Platoon:
    Matsui
    Melky
    Swisher

    keep everyone fresh.

  315. PAT M. December 23rd, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    Bad for Baseball ???? Every team owner checks their schedule to see when the Yanks come into town,,,it helps cover their nut for the month

  316. Yankee Trader December 23rd, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    “Is what the Yankees are doing bad for baseball?”

    If you make money, and are contributing to many of the teams [revenue sharing] that have been in the World Series, since the NYY appearance in 2003, you should put the best product out on the field for your fans, from the revenue you generate. What’s worse IMO, are the owners who pocket the revenues for profit instead of upgrading their teams.

  317. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    The deal is 8/180 mil. No trade clause, no OPY-OUT (shocker for me), 5 mil signing bonus. Only 1,5 mil a year more than Boston.

  318. daniel December 23rd, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    Why are the Yankees really better than last year’s team? CC replaces 20 game winner Moose=wash. They upgrade at 1B obviously, but losing Abreu almost makes it a wash, especially when you consider we lose Giambi’s dingers. Jeter’s gonna be 35, Burnett is unreliable, and if we don’t re-sign Petite, it’s a wash. Wang is back, but I wouldn’t be surprised if someone else- Burnett maybe, gets hurt to balance that out. Too expect much still from Jorge is to expect a lot. The out field and bench are beyond aging, or full of mediocre at best young players. The Yankees path to playoffs is a big let down from the Rays and Red Sox lacking too much juice, because I don’t see this team winning more than 93 games, unless they sign Manny, whose name often gets posts deleted here.

  319. Yankee Trader December 23rd, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    One last thing:
    1st pick to Angels for Tex.
    2nd pick to Brewers for CC.
    3rd pick to Blue Jays for AJ.
    And Yankees still get their 1st and 2nd pick for not signing their #1 & #2 this year.

  320. I want Michael Kay's job December 23rd, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    Daniel,
    You can’t be serious.. Tex alone is an upgrade from Giambi and Abreau not only on defense but offense as well. .wash?? It is an upgrade without even acquiring new pitchers to remove Ponson and Rasner out of the starting rotation.. Your post made me laugh out loud

  321. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    One other thing on a much debated topic – casman’s decision not to offer anyone arbitration.

    Many people roundly criticized that move. Not just fans. Guys like Law, Sheehan, Phillips said the yankees had “wasted” those picks.

    But now that the whole plan has come to fruition it is very clear why Cashman took a zero risk approach to arbitration and forfeited the picks.

    Cashman offers Abreu arbitration and he takes it and gets $17-18M – that completely blows the budget and could have made it impossible to obtain Tex.

    Think about that – abreu accepting arb could have cost them tex.

    And that’s why they didn’t offer anyone arbitration.

    They had a plan and executed it.

  322. JasonR December 23rd, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    Brian Cashman is Mr. December.

  323. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    Doreen,

    Happy hollidays. Thanks for the warm thoughts. As always I’ve enjoyed your posts as well.

    The whole thing has been very smoke and mirrors. It’s been fun figuring things out with everyone else on the board.

  324. rick December 23rd, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    this was a big signing for the yankees…..they have a solid necleus with arod, tex, cc, joba, aj, cano for the next few years…..if jackson, hughes, melancon and a few of their other minor leaguers come along they will win many championships over the next few years.

  325. Yankee Trader December 23rd, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    Question? Has anyone with NYY come out and said where Tex will bat? What makes most sense-A Rod’s speed at #3 with Tex cleanup? or visa versa?

  326. Tarheelyank December 23rd, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    CB
    exactly.

    It would not surprise me if Cash has planned for Tex for a couple years now. He played his hand perfect.

    When they didn’t offer arbitration (especially Abreu), it made me wonder if the plan was to go all out this year.

  327. rick December 23rd, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    hope the mets sign derek lowe…that would be another blow to boston….love to see that too

  328. SJ44 December 23rd, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    I think Tex should get some credit here.

    He, unlike his reputation going into this, did not take the last buck on the table.

    In essence, the Red Sox got outbid by 1.5 million a year (or thereabouts) for his services. The Nats offered more money.

    Tex becomes one of the only free agents to ever leave money on the table to sign with the Yankees. It may not have been a lot but, it still counts with me.

    Usually, the Yankees have to overpay to get players. In this case, even though the money is steep, he left some on the table to come to NY.

    That should buy him time with the fans if he gets off to a slow start.

  329. you gotta have faith (Aj for 5 years, NOOOOO)(Andy come back!) December 23rd, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    WOW!
    im still in shock/amazed that this happened.

    and to everyone else who is “disgusted” with the Yanks spending this year they all need to shut up. they spent because they NEEDED too, our pitching staff was DEPLETED!! so, we got 2 pitchers, we also needed a first baseman, we got that too

    the backlash from this signing is going to be brutal, and even worse, if the yanks dont come anywhere close to the WS then we will never hear the end of it.

  330. YankeeRay December 23rd, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    This is my repost but it is worth it for anyone who hasn’t gone to this site yet.

    Feels so good.
    YankeeRay
    December 23rd, 2008 at 5:05 pm
    This site makes it all worth it
    Merry Christmas to the cute little new sockies
    http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....ox/extras/

  331. daniel December 23rd, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    I want Michael Kay’s Job,

    Really? And who is playing defensive RF that’s better than Abreu next year? And I said they upgraded at first, but no Abreu and losing Giambi’s dinger’s make it on a whole a wash to me. Again, we had a 20 game winner last year, who is no longer on the team. CC has never won 20 games. Is Jorge really gonna perform at an elite level behind the plate – he’s a year older and coming off a major injury? And Jeter is not getting younger, and is on the proper path of subtle decline. Matsui, Damon – at this point, you have to describe them as fragile. And we have as bad CF as any team in the bigs. I see a 90 – 93 team, which usually doesn’t get you in the playoffs.

  332. DAVE SILVESTRI'S CANTILEVERED HAMMOCK December 23rd, 2008 at 7:00 pm

    The business is going. A parrot from Brazil flew through my window here in Vermont and told me Manny made an announcement to the critters down there in the rainforest that he will play on Tuesdays and Wednesdays for the Yanks, he will pickle cucumbers on Thursdays, Friday he will breed rare goldfish, Saturdays he will sleep in and in the afternoons meet via teleconference with Lucasfilm coming up with plot-lines for the upcoming live-action Star Wars TV-series, Sunday is laundry day/reading day (BIG Slavoj Zizek scholar, Manny is), and on Mondays you can find him playing piano at Tavern on the Green.

  333. you gotta have faith (Aj for 5 years, NOOOOO)(Andy come back!) December 23rd, 2008 at 7:00 pm

    we are called the Evil Empire for a reason :)

  334. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 7:00 pm

    The happiest NYY guy has to be Girardi. He dodged The manny Bullit”. Now he doesn’t have to answer the “What are you going to do about Manny’s unexpected day off” questions.

  335. SJ44 December 23rd, 2008 at 7:01 pm

    Sorry but, CC vs. Moose is not a “wash”. One guy pitches 230 innings a year. The other guy is 40 years old.

    Come on, this team is NIGHT AND DAY better than the one that started and ended last season.

    Doesn’t guarantee anything but, its a helluva team on paper.

    What’s also important? CC and Tex have good reps in the game. No Sheffield, Kevin Brown or Randy Johnson in these guys.

    Even AJ, while a bit wacko, is well liked throughout the game.

    Its a talented team of good guys. I’d say Cash did a helluva job this off-season.

  336. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 7:01 pm

    If it’s true that the Sox had been targetting Tex for the past year or two would $1.5M/ year really stop them from signing tex?

    They would have definitely matched that. No question about it.

    They may not have matched the Nats – but they would have matched that offer from the yanks.

    If tex had wanted to he could have gone back to the sox with the offer.

    But i’m sure Cashman told him that if we make an offer it’ll be fare and that’s it – no shopping the offer.

    So at that point it was really up to tex – where did he want to play.

    He was going to get the same money from either powerhouse.

    He wanted to play in NY.

  337. Mr. Fox December 23rd, 2008 at 7:01 pm

    Lovely, though I admit I had it wrong. I had Boston picking up Tex, and us getting Manny. Not because I prefered it that way but because of the way I saw the tide but this is awesome. Wooot!

    Champagne wishes and caviar dreams, get us all those world series rings!

  338. AROD fan December 23rd, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    for those of us who like to watch professional baseball, as in seriously world class good baseball, competition is good. what is bad for baseball is the control – the penalties for advancing the competition, the rewards for lowering it. if every team were to fight like the yankees, baseball would be a lot more fun and in general a lot better. half the league would not be full of brett gardners, and Francessa would have to find a new job because he would actually have to talk about the game instead of the behavior of the players and the micromanagement of the team.

    thanks hal and hank, for doing what was good for baseball.

  339. Braintrust December 23rd, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The Yanks went out and took care of business, and probably aren’t done yet. In the process they left the RedSox in the dust. Look for the Yanks tip the balance of power in the AL East for years to come. The flame under Girardi just got turned up a bit.

    With Boston and Tampa fielding strong teams, this is what the Yanks had to do, or they would be relegated to third place for the next five years.

    Awesome!!!

  340. rick December 23rd, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    Tex wanted to be in NY…..that should make him a favorite right away

  341. trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY!" December 23rd, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    Pete, see that’s the scary thing with some people thinking your word is gospel and your sayso is etched in stone.
    And I don’t mean disrespect by that. Some people don’t realize that you can only report what you are told and the rest is just your opinion on what may or may not happen.

    I have a bit of a different take on this. I don’t think
    Cashman duped anyone. We don’t know whether he was given marching orders to sign Teixeira and did it. Anyway, I don’t see a major disconnect between what Cashman said he wanted to do and what he did. And finally, again with no disrespect intended, if you got duped, so you did. Cashman said and did what he had to in order to do what needed doing.

    I’m with Doreen. IF keeping it quiet was the way it had to be done, no big deal. Reporters and people who have friends in the know are pretty far down on the food chain. Cashman does business the way he has to. That’s why he makes the big bucks.

    I know there are people here who feel the opposite of what I am going to say, but I will continue to say that the Yankees owe us nothing in terms of information and showing their cards. I absolutely can live with that. I’m sorry for the people who can’t because you are going to be continually upset and disappointed.

    Just my opinion.

  342. Bob Mac December 23rd, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    Hello Pete. Don’t let a few bad apples spoil the barrel of pleasure your blog gives us all. It is the first one I read. We all have opinions based upon information we have at hand. Sometimes right and sometimes wrong. I welcome yours. Many posters, me included, are very happy you were wrong on this issue. With that in mind, what is your opinion on the future? Will Pettitte return? Will a back-up infielder be obtained or will they rely upon Ransom to back up 2B, 3B and SS? Keep giving us your thoughts. We in the hinterland of Texas(when it comes to Yankee baseball)need it.

  343. YankeeRay December 23rd, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    There are many of us on this site who really believed that we could pull it off with Tex.
    If I could pull my previous posts you would see what I had said:

    Sign 2 pitchers and Tex and Manny. My top pitcher was AJ and either Sheets or Ollie Perez because I wanted to keep the payroll flexibility to sign Tex and Manny.
    I am very happy to have CC and ecstatic about Tex and AJ.
    I know signing Manny will never happen now but here is what my initial plan was:
    Trade Matsui and Nady for low level prospects to clear a spot for Manny as well. DH Manny and play Damon in LF and Swisher in RF with the kids in CF.
    Call me crazy but I still think it could be done but very very unlikely.

    This is a great day to be a Yankee fan.
    Merry Christmas to all.

  344. Jbera December 23rd, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    I’m afraid the years of this contract is going to pay costly for this team in the future. Tying up eight-years for Tex is equivalent to the yankees tying up eight-years for Giambi. I feel the latter years of the Tex contract will have the same results as Giambi’s last years in a yankee uniform, which is one- dimensional player.

    I personally believe that in the middle of Tex’s contract. Tex’s defense will start to decline and become putrid to the point where he’s no longer average in defense for a 1st basemen.

    I believe that he will lose the power and Batting Average and will probably have fewer home-runs than giambi did in his latter part of his career as a yankee.

    All in all this deal sounds good in the present, but will have the same effects as the Giambi deal had.

    Tex was a “want”. We did not “need” him. This is my view on the Tex signing.

  345. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    Three items left to do. sign Pettitte, sign Alex Cora as a utility player and move an outfielder before or during Spring Training.

  346. I want Michael Kay's job December 23rd, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    Daniel,
    Moose had the best season of his career. Sabathia 8 years to become a 20 game winner. What odds would you take on that bet? Did you watch any game last year? Abreu had a ridiculous reputation of being afraid of walls, which held out to be true. I don’t know any RF who is afraid of walls as much as abreu is. Abreu was not a good defensive player by any means. Giambi on the other hand was no better than an AA player the first 3/4 of the season.. Rasner/Ponson/Pavano vs CMW/CC/Burnett/Joba. You still want to carry on this debate? You need some better stats than that.

  347. SJ44 December 23rd, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    I’m interested to see if Pettitte is still an option now.

    Wouldn’t it be something if his inaction caused him to miss out playing for this team? This is the best Yankee team, at least on paper, in about 7 years.

    If Andy is out of the mix, he only has himself to blame.

    Hopefully, he’s not. The rotation could use another vet on a one year deal in it.

    If he is though, he has no one to blame but himself.

    They gave him a fair offer in this marketplace. He may end up regretting turning it down if they can’t come to an agreement now.

  348. MJR (Shut Up Steve Phillips) December 23rd, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    Now can we stop talking about getting Manny?

  349. Celerino Sanchez December 23rd, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    “Has Brian Cashman now eclipsed Jerry Reese as best GM in the town?”

    I hope you are not serious. If you are serious, answer is no.

  350. Yankee Trader December 23rd, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    “thanks hal and hank, for doing what was good for baseball.”

    And to Bud Selig- I don’t want to hear that the NYY are buying a trip to the WS. By the way how much revenue did the rain soaked Rays -Phillies WS generate? Did any of us really watch most of that series? Raise your hands if you did. Ha, I thought so!!!

  351. Mr. Fox December 23rd, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    Tex is more talented than Giambi, he will evolve as necessary.

  352. Jbera December 23rd, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    SJ or CB I would like to hear your respond to my post up above re: I’m afraid the years of this contract

  353. Brad December 23rd, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    The Sockies better cross their fingers that Ortiz and Lowell are healthy all year otherwise they’re a team in quicksand.
    They can’t expect little Pedroia, Youkilis, and oft injured Drew to carry the team. They also better hope that Beckett is healthy and Wakefield is better than a .500 pitcher.
    In actuality, the Rays are the team highest on the radar until proven otherwise.

  354. no.27 December 23rd, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    I don’t agree with the idea that signing Teixeira means the Yankees aren’t committed to their farm system. What do they lose by signing Teixeira? A 3rd round pick? If they don’t sign Teixeira there’s a great chance they have to trade some of their young talent before the trade deadline to pick up another bat.

    Signing Teixeira doesn’t mean that the Yankees aren’t working towards a lower pay roll either. Next offseason they will have Jeter, Swisher, A-Rod, Tex, Cano, Posada, and Austin Jackson in the lineup, CC, Wang, Burnett, Joba, and Hughes in the rotation, and Mariano, Marte and Melancon in the bullpen for under $172 million. Obviously that’s only 14 players of the 40 man roster, but when you’ve got those 14, you don’t need much more. In the 2010 offsesason, Mariano and his $15mil/yr retires and Jeter gets a new deal that SHOULD be lower than $21mil/yr.

    People worried about the media and other fans saying the Yankees bought a championship need to realize that they said when the Yankees won in 2000 and it was still great beating the Mets. They would have said it anyway, even if the Yankees didn’t sign him.

  355. Ty December 23rd, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    Why do people keep saying trade Matsui? He is our DH, not our 1B. Furthermore, he is more of an offensive force than Nady/Swisher/Damon.

  356. Yankee Trader December 23rd, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    I think Pettitte is still an option and should be, with Hughes starting in AAA, and Aceves/Geise in long relief.

  357. AJ YANKS December 23rd, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    Kellerman was AWESOME today

  358. Joe from Long Island December 23rd, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    For Pete’s sake, what did people want? For Cash to say “I’ve really got a plan to get us Tex without getting into a Boras-like bidding frenzy, don’t tell Boras”?

    My guess is, Cash had a plan that would work only if all the stars were aligned, and, the stars lined up were everyone was bidding a roughly similar amount, that was were the Yanks valued his contribution.

    Getting Nick Swisher was the first step in that process, were it put the Yanks in a position where they absolutely, positively did not have to get Tex.

    The best time to look for a job is when you don’t need one. The best way to negotiate for a deal is to NOT be desperate to get what you’re shopping for.

  359. Outlawz December 23rd, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    They just showed a shot of Teixeria hitting a HR off of Marte (when he was with the Pirates).

  360. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! December 23rd, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    Posada will definitely remind him of this:

    http://graphics8.nytimes.com/i.....es.650.jpg

    :D

  361. Celerino Sanchez December 23rd, 2008 at 7:18 pm

    “Tex is more talented than Giambi, he will evolve as necessary.”

    well, now we know where Giambi’s “talent” came from – needle, pills, etc.

  362. S.A.-Brian "The Ninja" Cashman: Showing free agents lots of love December 23rd, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    Well, everyone is talking about the Yankees.
    Even Adam Schefter on NFLN while he was talking about Mangini being on the coaching hot seat. He was saying how the Jets spent a lot of money in the off season, though not as much as the NY Yankees have right now..

    :evil:

  363. Soul December 23rd, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    And we still have our 1st and 3rd round picks next year.

  364. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    Even with Pettitte, NYY has a lower payroll. How much depends on what Nady, Bruney and Cabrera get in abritration.

  365. rover December 23rd, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    I really like players with something of a personality. I would love to see jeter lose it once before he retires. Moose had some quirks, kyle was kyle, oneill wells etc.
    I could even live with manny’s personality, but manny is a quitter, first and a personality second. I really hope this puts the manny talk to bed. I hope he doesn’t find a job and goes quietly into the sunset or even better begs the sux for his old job back.
    quitters making tens of millions of dollars should never be rewarded for the actions.

  366. S.A.-Brian "The Ninja" Cashman: Showing free agents lots of love December 23rd, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    Posada will definitely remind him of this:

    http://graphics8.nytimes.com/i.....es.650.jpg

    :D

    ——————————–

    His butt is not bad at all. :D

  367. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    “Tex was a “want”. We did not “need” him. This is my view on the Tex signing.”

    JBera,

    The Giambi comparison is one that is and will be made often.

    It is largely off base.

    First and this is a large difference – Giambi was 31 when he signed. Tex is still 28 and will have just turned 29 at the start of the season.

    That alone makes the comparison a limited one.

    Giambi was a very poor fielder. Tex is a good to very good defensive player.

    Giambi was using steriods and they ruined his body. There’s no indication of anything like that with tex. He’s a huge workout guy.

    The only comparison are the generic issues related to long term contract.

    And on that note – Tex is already a good defender. Even if he slows down he’s starting from a high floor and will remain a good defender for a long time.

  368. feefooo December 23rd, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    YANKEES IS BASEBALL, YANKEES IS THE MLB! HAHAHA

  369. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! December 23rd, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    SA,

    is that all you care about? LOL :D

  370. TKinDC December 23rd, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    “I’m interested to see if Pettitte is still an option now.

    Wouldn’t it be something if his inaction caused him to miss out playing for this team? This is the best Yankee team, at least on paper, in about 7 years.”

    Great point – more runs scored and better defense along with the economics makes a sub-million dollar Phil Hughes/Aceves/Coke/IPK in the rotation more palatable.

    Just put a bow around the Tex as a huge present to Yankeedom under a very nice looking Christmas tree. Nice.

  371. Kevin (not that Kevin) Brown December 23rd, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    With all this talk about Tex’s contract, how much we paid, how much money he may or may not have left on the table, why the Sox were not willing to go the extra $1.5M a year, etc., I just want to ask a reasonable and fundamental question, which is: is Mark Teixeira really a $20m+ per year player? According to the articles, his career numbers are 30 HR/105 RBI – which doesn’t scream $20M+. Yes, he was a free agent, and yes he had all the leverage, but just comparing him to the rest of the league, is he that good?

  372. TKinDC December 23rd, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    Oh yeah, and Andy will be ok because just like the Hendrix brothers said he has a 3 year, $36M contract just waiting to be signed.

    (next to the deed for the Brooklyn bridge)

  373. Todd December 23rd, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    Time magazine needs to retract Obama as Man of the Year……………..Not saying he doesn’t deserve it, but I’d pick Cash for the cover LOL

  374. Mr. Fox December 23rd, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    “well, now we know where Giambi’s “talent” came from – needle, pills, etc.”

    Precisely, Celerino Sanchez.

  375. Celerino Sanchez December 23rd, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    “Giambi was using steriods and they ruined his body. There’s no indication of anything like that with tex. He’s a huge workout guy.”

    Huge workout guy? wasn’t Roger Clemens a big workout guy?

  376. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    Soul
    December 23rd, 2008 at 7:19 pm
    And we still have our 1st and 3rd round picks next year.

    ————————————————————

    No they don’t. They lose their 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks, but, they retain their two supplimental picks for not signing Cole and Bittle from the 2008 draft.

  377. CB December 23rd, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    JBera,

    One other thing – while it is true Tex may have been a “want” it’s not entirely true that he wasn’t also a need.

    What was absolutely needed was another bat. They had to get another bat.

    Tex was by far the best fit. In particular he was the only fit that would not only improve a bad defense but would stop them from getting worse on defense.

    Manny, Dunn, etc all make the defense worse or require matsui to be traded which limits their value.

    Now the team has both Tex’s bat and matsui’s while at the same time avoids having to play a guy like Manny or Dunn in LF.

  378. Jeff NJ December 23rd, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    This signing is outstanding. I personally am having the best year ever:

    Giants won the super bowl on my birthday
    Had my first kid, a great little boy
    Won my fantasy football league last night
    And now the Yankees are champions of the off-season signing the top three free agents on the market.

    2008 is going to be a tough year to follow.

    GO YANKEES!

  379. Sevrx December 23rd, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    S.A. -

    Even Stephen A. Smith commented on the deal (said he loved it BTW).

    All these non-baseball people are chiming in lol

  380. Jake December 23rd, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    I like to enter in my personal WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO for this signing!!!

    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  381. bru December 23rd, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    mike mussina with his 20 wins is not on the same planet as cc.

    wins mean nothing as far as determining how good a pitcher is.

    whip,hits,baa are more important.mussina’s whip was good because he gave up no walks.he gave up 214 hits in 200 innings & the league batted 2.78 against him.decent but not great.

    the key in all of this is that we kept all our prospects wich will give us a lot of flexibility going forward.

    there is nothing better than signing the best fa & keeping our prospects.

    if boston trades for pitching,catcher,etc they are going to take a hit & lose some big prospects.

  382. Kevin December 23rd, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    What makes all this negative talk (by Yankee haters, ESPN, etc.) so funny is this: why is it so impossible to think that Tex, although perhaps driven by the best offer, also simply wanted to play for the Yankees? He grew up idolizing Mattingly, he’s only had gushing things to say about the Yankees in the past. I knew that if the Yankees were willing, he’d be very interested in playing here, whether money was 100% of his decision or not. All I know is, although this means ’09 and beyond will LITERALLY be world series or bust, I am pretty excited.

  383. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    I can’t imagine Pettitte not getting signed, because I can’t see NYY going with basically 2 inexperienced starters again in the rotation.

  384. Juggy December 23rd, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    I have to agree with Jeremy (way up top of this thread).. Although it was not unreasonable for Pete A. to think Tex was way out of reach due to the big signings, I felt his attitude and condescending arrogant tone towards anyone that felt Tex was coming to the Yankees was very uncalled for..

    Telling people they obviously don’t know anything about baseball in your blog post, and then using the excuse that “Well I believed it cuz Brian told me so”.. was priceless.. I like ya Pete, but you’re eating crow right now. Tex was a good fit, it was 50/50 at best, and not the 90/10 you were condescendingly pushing..

  385. R-Tek December 23rd, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    Why does ESPN repeat the “Breaking News: Mark Teixeria signs with Yankees” segment every 3 or 4 minutes?

  386. POOSE8 December 23rd, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    the holidays are going to suck in boston.

  387. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    From what Ryan and a couple of others have said, Boston is not pleased with Boras, and they may just forget about resigning Varitek. His hitting has really nose dived, but, not having his handling of their pitching staff might have an affect on them.

  388. you gotta have faith (Aj for 5 years, NOOOOO)(Andy come back!) December 23rd, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    Jeff NJ,

    congrats on your year!! lol sounds pretty spectacular, hop 2009 is just as good or even better!!

  389. TKinDC December 23rd, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    “Why does ESPN repeat the “Breaking News: Mark Teixeria signs with Yankees” segment every 3 or 4 minutes?”

    Boston Red Sox fans don’t handle setbacks very well, it fries their fragile brains. :)

  390. Tarheelyank December 23rd, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    Speaking of Moose, any chance he reconsiders?

  391. ShamWow December 23rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    My Fav pic of TEX

    http://dondep.home.comcast.net/~dondep/Tex.jpg

  392. Don December 23rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    Where is mel at?

    She would love this news

  393. Joe from Long Island December 23rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    Now that they’ve demonstrated that they’re willing to spend, I think Andy will be back. They’ve got, what, an additional 300M+ in revenues from the new Stadium, and they’ve shown that they’re willing to spend it.

    The alternative is going with a relatively unproven starter in that spot. Why go cheap, and put all you’ve invested at risk of becoming insignificant, in the most competetive division in baseball? Or am I missing something?

  394. S.A.-Brian "The Ninja" Cashman: Showing free agents lots of love December 23rd, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    All these non-baseball people are chiming in lol

    —————————————————

    Oh totally Sevrx.
    I’m still waiting for LeBron to make a statement regarding his thoughts on the Yankees getting Tex. :P

  395. vtred December 23rd, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    The timing of this must suck for the beat writers… most of them are probably on vacation and don’t want to be bothered with this. Now they have to write articles and look for quotes 2 days before Christmas and on Christmas Eve lol

  396. Fran December 23rd, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    Green Beret7,

    Can Boston really afford not to sign Varitek whether they are annoyed with Boras or not?

    Cashman just played this better than Bostony did like he did with Damon a few years ago.

  397. no.27 December 23rd, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    “I’m afraid the years of this contract is going to pay costly for this team in the future. Tying up eight-years for Tex is equivalent to the yankees tying up eight-years for Giambi. I feel the latter years of the Tex contract will have the same results as Giambi’s last years in a yankee uniform, which is one- dimensional player.”

    Teixeira is almost 9 years younger than Giambi, is much more athletic, has no PED questions, and hits to all fields. Giambi had a .876 OPS at age 37. Teixeira will be 36 in the last year of his contract. I don’t see any reason why why Teixeira would age faster than Giambi.

    “I personally believe that in the middle of Tex’s contract. Tex’s defense will start to decline and become putrid to the point where he’s no longer average in defense for a 1st basemen.”

    He’s got gold glove defense at 1st base. What makes you think 4-6 years is going to turn him into a “putrid” defender?

  398. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! December 23rd, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    update —->

  399. Tarheelyank December 23rd, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    GB

    I agree, the Tek situation is a no win for Boston. I dont think there is anybody out there who will handle the staff better then Tek. But his hitting….

  400. GreenBeret7 December 23rd, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Fran
    December 23rd, 2008 at 7:37 pm
    Green Beret7,

    Can Boston really afford not to sign Varitek whether they are annoyed with Boras or not?

    Cashman just played this better than Bostony did like he did with Damon a few years ago.

    ————————————————————

    Not sure, but it won’t be for the 10 mil they offered at the end of the year. How stupid was it for Varitek to turn down arbitration, now? He may end up with a 2-3 mil deal with incentives.

  401. MDwebGuy December 23rd, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Sometimes Pete you should listen to the Yankee fans, we know the team and what we can expect the team to do better than everyone. The most unsusal moves are always the terrible ones. This was totally expected. As I said there was NO WAY the Yanks were going into the season with Swisher at 1st base! It was not going to happen. Now we see every journalist listing the same reason we all posted here!

  402. Bill December 23rd, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    Getting Tex doesn’t necessarily mean the NYY have to trade anyone, at least not right away. They could see how the season develops and then make a move depending upon what they need. An OF of Damon (LF) Swisher (CF) and Nady (RF) with Gadner as 4th OF could work. Gardner could get time as defensive replacement and spot starts in OF. Melky could be in AAA. Nothing wrong with stockpiling OFs @ AAA, they may need him later or in 2010 when 3 OFs (Damon, Nady & Matsui) contracts expire. I think Gardner gets 4th spot because Joe G. continues to praise him, even at CC/ AJ press conference.
    Also, in a matter of days the NYY have greatly improved their pitching, hitting and defense. Anyone who doesn’t think they are team to beat is kidding themselves.

  403. vin December 23rd, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    new post by Pete….

  404. Bill December 23rd, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    With the roster the NYY have now, I think Andy is probably ready to pay the NYY for a chance to pitch for them. :) I do believe Andy will be back. Given all the $ the NYY have spent another $10MM doesn’t matter to them one way or the other.

  405. Bill December 23rd, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    In the past few weeks I kept reading that Cash said anyone who thought the NYY would get the best pitcher (CC) and best hitter (Tex) was being unrealistic. That was fantasy baseball. I read they weren’t going after another big $ player. But as a NYY fan of 50 years something just didn’t seem right or make sense. The lineup they had (pre-Tex) was pretty good, but these are the NYY. Since George took over they have never settled for pretty good. I had a feeling they would get Tex or Manny. I just didn’t know which one. Luckily they went with the sensible choice over the unpredictable Manny. Can’t wait for Opening Day!

  406. YankeeRay December 23rd, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    ShamWow
    December 23rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm
    My Fav pic of TEX

    http://dondep.home.comcast.net/~dondep/Tex.jpg

    —–

    Thanks, this is the picture on my fantasy football web page, by the way I won my super bowl yesterday, what a week.

  407. raymagnetic December 23rd, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    Rob Neyer – Yankees are team to beat

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....=neyer_rob

  408. Yankee Trader December 23rd, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    GB-7
    “Not sure, but it won’t be for the 10 mil they offered at the end of the year. How stupid was it for Varitek to turn down arbitration, now? He may end up with a 2-3 mil deal with incentives.”

    Let him sue his agent-Boras, for being too consumed with his top free agents to advise Varitek to accept arbitration!!!

  409. Bo knows December 23rd, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    To sum up – The Yankees were over Boston by 1.5 mil a year, Yeah, big monkey. Tex with Boston vs Tex w/ Yankees is about 6 wins a year. Big numbers! Cashman did not allow Boras to play him, ie get into a bidding war. Compared to last year, team is younger and more athletic. Both Burnett and Texeira were market value, CC was a must have. The front office realized what was required to maintain their position in the new stadium. Very similar to what Boston did after their no playoff year. Well played all around. Very well done. One Rebel yell required at this point. Yeehah!

  410. Wiseman December 23rd, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    Obviously Petitte is not coming back and either Swisher or Nady will be going away to keep payroll under $190MM, which appear to be a reachable limit. But I’m fine with that. Rotation of CC, AJ, Wang, Joba and Hughes/Aceves or Kennedy is fine – no need for Petitte–it just spending $’s unnecessarily.

  411. Marcus December 23rd, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    Amazing just amazing.

  412. Johnny D. December 23rd, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    Sox should try for Manny now! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

  413. brent December 23rd, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    the yankees should send a package of kennedy,hughes,swisher,and cabrera and a another minor leaguer for center fields josh hamilton

  414. serious December 23rd, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    Hey Pete, while obviously wishing death upon someone is beyond stupid and vile, you DO have to admit at some point that you talked down to your readers. It has nothing to do with you just being “wrong.” At least to me, it does not. It has to do with you essentially belittling your readers for talking about a possibility. And it’s not the first time you’ve done that.

    You did not seem to mind telling fans they were crazy of dreaming for Mark Texiera, so you can expect ribbing in return. Again, wish any ill upon you or your family is silly. But joking about you being in a movie while this news you clearly claimed would never happen broke is merited.

    Please keep up the great work, I love your blog and visit it multiple times a day. But also keep in mind that as someone who has THOUSANDS of people reading what you say, if you stick your neck out on something and are wrong, you will hear it. Especially with a team like ours, and especially when you aren’t exactly coy about your feelings towards those with opposing ideas.

  415. AJW December 23rd, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    I think the Yanks are going to send Nady somewhere. I can’t see them sending Swisher who IMHO is a more versatile player than Nady and we could probably package a Kennedy and Naday and get something for that. Perhaps an Aaron Rowand? We shall see. We are not done yet.

  416. Sally December 23rd, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    In my opinion, trade Nick Swisher or Melky,let Brett Gardner play CF.

  417. truth December 23rd, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    “As he did in 2005 with Johnny Damon, Brian Cashman stole a Scott Boras client from under the noses of the Red Sox today with the signing of Mark Teixeira.”

    You don’t know this. The red sox had a number they wouldn’t go over, The yankees have no such number. If the sox had come back with a bigger number, they yankees would have gone higher. There’s no stealing involved. The red sox aren’t shocked.

    You’re simply talking out of your ass and have no idea what you’re talking about. Much like when you claimed that the yankees could NEVER sign all 3 free agents. When will you learn that your job is to give info, not to predict. And even if it was, you absolutely suck at it and have no idea what you’re talking about.

  418. Lawnmower December 23rd, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    As a Yankee fan, one word come to mind…gluttonous. Starting with the 2000 WS win against the Mets, there seems to be no joy in winning as a Yankee fan because they have stacked the deck in their favor to such a ridiculous degree.

    Take the Giants winning the SB as an underdog last year. That was great as a Giants fan, it was magical. The Yankees, as currently constituted, could never replicate that. It takes the joy out of the ride which is the best thing in sports.

    I don’t mind spending money or having the highest payroll but when is it enough? We now have to go spend another $10M on Pettitte, isn’t Phil Hughes sufficient for a 5th starter?

    I’m sure others feel ok to spend, spend & spend more but to me it’s just un-creative and lazy. I’ll always still root for the Yanks but now even if they win, it’s as expected so it’s really a no-win situation.

  419. jk December 23rd, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    A few points:

    I do not see how anyone bought the “we are cutting payroll” koolaid. There is a ton of money coming in from the new stadium and as long as George is drawing breath, the money will be spent.

    Cashman might have meant what he said but was over ruled.

    Finally,

    Thanks Peter for another great year of Yankee coverage.

    Happy holidays and New Year to all.

  420. bodhisattva December 23rd, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    kill-schill(ing)
    December 23rd, 2008 at 6:26 pm
    CB, totally agree about Damon in LF. It’s to Damon in CF that I was making the Abreu comparison.
    I worry about Johnny in CF, less because of his arm than his diminished range and the wear on his knees and calves. His arm is a liability, I agree, wherever he plays.

    YANKEE TRADER
    CB’s idea of playing Damon in CF most of the time with Nady in RF and Swisher in LF makes most sense, with Gardner/Melky as a late inning replacement. No need to trade any of them as all will need a day off, and return won’t be worth it. Anyway, for what it’s worth, Nady was 2nd to Markakis in RF assists at the time of the trade to NY. Swisher and Nady add versatility to the team, and don’t need to be traded as of now.

    ————————-

    Kill Schilling: Worry about Damon in CF, oh yes. The prospect isn’t worrying, it’s terrifying, but we don’t need to worry, because regardless of what Cashman said, Cashman knows this is impossible. He simply can’t play there anymore. He’s done as a center fielder.

    Yankee Trader: CB’s idea is an awful one. Damon is fine as the left fielder. He is incompetent in center at this point. Especially in the Bronx. It’s out of the question.

  421. Josh December 23rd, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    News for Yankees Fans
    Your Team was better and had a far more potent offense in 2003. Buster Olney wrote an article a few months ago on why your team sucks. You give all your top draft picks away by signings like this. The Sox will keep having MVP candidates come up from the farm. (see Dustin Pedroia and near future Lars Anderson) I remember an injured Josh Becket in the division series whiffing Texeira and his .200 batting average at fenway 3 times. When will you idiots learn what got you 4 championships in 5 years?

  422. propaghandi December 23rd, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    This is just a rant…

    As a Yankee fan, it’s been a great Christmas so far.

    What I don’t understand is all the sour grapes among Boston fans on the various blogs and sites I read. Not one week ago Boston fans were practically hailing Teixeira as the second coming when all signs were pointing to him signing with Boston. And now that he signed with the Yankees, he’s overrated and Henry was smart for not signing him. They practically had Lowell’s bags packed. In fact, correct me if I’m wrong, but a local Boston radio station had scheduled a Goodbye Mike Lowell party on the radio. This is the same way they behaved when A-Rod ended up signing for NY. He was the greatest player ever when the Sox were about to sign him and the second it fell through and he became a Yankee, A-Rod was the worst person alive. I’m sorry but as an outside observer, Boston seems very two-faced and they treat your pillar players like trash.

    For example, Nomar was the Boston franchise years ago. Boston had very little to cheer about [i]other[/i] than Nomar. As soon as he’s let go, he’s a bum.

    Johnny Damon was one of the most beloved Red Sox (Red Sock? What’s the proper nomenclature?). If it weren’t for Damon, Boston gets swept by the Yankees in 2004. Yet as soon as he signs with the Yankees because Boston lowballed him, the Sox fans jump on his back, call him a traitor, hail the move as genius, and boo him every time he steps foot in Fenway. Yet who betrayed who? As I see it, the Sox ownership treated Damon like a kid who lives off his mother until he’s 40 and then as soon as she needs his care, ships her off to a nursing home and wipes his hands clean. Is this the way Boston treats it’s legends?

    Look at how Wade Boggs was treated. Mrs. Yawkey dies in 1990 after telling Wade the Sox were going to offer him a 5-year deal because they wanted him to follow in the footsteps of Williams and Yaz and the next in charge pull the plug on the deal and offer Boggs 1 year and an option. So he signs with New York who offers him a multi-year, wins two gold gloves, bats over .300 in the four years with them (including .311 in ’96), and caps it off with a horse ride around Yankee Stadium after winning a World Series. Yet he gets booed by Sox fan who should instead be storming their front office and booing them. And in the ultimate show of who has the most class, Boggs decides to go into Cooperstown as a Red Sock.

    Same with Manny. It can be argued that Manny was the single biggest factor in the two Boston championships of this decade yet the minute he leaves town, he’s a bum. What happened to all that “Manny being Manny” crap? The way Boston treats it’s ex-players is absolutely soulless. Yet when it’s time for him to go into Cooperstown I’m sure Boston fans will be insisting he do it as a Red Sox. He was the best player in the world..he gets let go and is a bum…and now that the Yankees get Teixeira, Manny is great again because you need a bat. Jesus.

    Compare that with the Yankees who hire their ex-players in consultation roles. Reggie Jackson has been huge in mentoring young players and recruiting free agents. Darryl Strawberry is a team consultant. Doc Gooden comes back. Paul O’Neill is an announcer. Ken Singleton. Jim Kaat. The list goes on. Phil Rizzuto became an announcer and practically lived at the stadium along with Berra, Murcer, Ford, and innumerable other former Yankees. That’s why you will [i]never[/i] see Jeter in another uniform. Same with Mo, with Bernie, and Posada. Jeter and Posada may be well past their prime but there is gratitude for the 4 world championships they brought to the team. And that gratitude is more than a hand shake and a subtle pushing out the front door to end their careers with another team. That gratitude is money, security, and the assurance that they will only have to don one uniform in their entire career. There is no denying the Yankees are a class organization. This is what is meant by the phrase ‘Yankee Pride’.

    After 2000 it was the Yankees trying to buy their championships (even though Boston has the notorious distinction of having the highest payroll of any world championship team ever). Once Boston was winning the bought championships talk died down. Now with the recent signings (CC, AJ, Tex), I’ve actually heard Boston fans quipping about how the Yankees will never win by buying the championship and need to return to focusing on their homegrown talent as they did from 96-2000.

    As things stand now, the Yankees payroll will actually be [i]less[/i] in 2009 than it was in 2008. So even when the Yankees payroll is reduced people still whine.

    No one was complaining about the Yankees the past few years but this year the Yankees dump over $85 million in salary and sign a few guys and still come out less in salary and all of a sudden everyone complains.

    The Yankees [b]play by the rules set by Major League Baseball[/b] that [i]any other team]/i] is more than welcome to abide by but the Yankees are the villains. The Yankees are the cheaters. It’s the same misguided anger and sophomoric logic as those who get angry at players who are driven out of town by cheapskate front offices. Look, I’m as much a proponent of a salary cap as any baseball purist. And yes, as a Yankee fan that would hurt me more than any other team’s fan, however as long as the rules say the Yankees can do this, I’m going to cheer them on. Rather than point fingers at the guy across the street whose dad bought him a new car, why not go back in the house and ask your fathers why he insists that you still ride a skateboard around? Quit worrying about the Yankees and get your ownership to spend more money. Sorry, no solutions on how to do that. That’s your issue.

    I’m happy to have an ownership who understands that you have to spend money to make money. Who does all they can to try to field the best team they can get year after year. Who pours the money us fans spend on it’s brand, back into the team. Baseball, the game, is what we watch on television and cheer. Baseball, the business, is what we spend our money on and what affords the money the Yankees can spend on players. Let’s be honest, there isn’t a fan of any team alive that wouldn’t kill to have an ownership willing to spend half a billion dollars on improving their team. Anyone who says otherwise is a bold faced liar. So go ahead and buy that ‘Yankee Sucks’ t-shirt, showing that your hatred of the Yankees is more passionate than the love of your own team. Trust me, the shirt says more about you than it does about the Yankees.

  423. Dante December 23rd, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    propaghandi:

    you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

    you must be tired after writing what undoubtedly gave you a lot of satisfaction yet was misinformed and off-base.

    lay down and dream of the Red Sox winning the world series again in 2009 and the yankees continuing are decade of inefficient excess

  424. propaghandi December 24th, 2008 at 12:00 am

    Psst Dante. I’m a Yankee fan.

    Reading comprehension > you.

  425. propaghandi December 24th, 2008 at 12:01 am

    And why not actually address what you think is misinformed and off-base? Can you? I doubt it.

  426. lil' m December 24th, 2008 at 12:26 am

    Tex: LOVE IT!!! Welcome to the Bronx, big guy. C-Money: Gangster of the Year!! He must win every poker game he plays. Haterade: What, no ice? Guilt-ridden Yankee fans: try to relax and enjoy the ride. The AL East is back to being the most exciting division in baseball, bar none. Pete: you remain The Man – hope you enjoy the rest of your well-earned vacation. This blog remains the first place to look for Yankee news, commentary and fan input, and even when you’re away, you still make sure to keep it going strong. Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas and all the best in the year to come.

  427. Brian in 702 December 24th, 2008 at 12:54 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm4TG56KGZ4

    you gotta love the Yankee owners!

    everyone else just wishes that their owners put this kind of money on their payroll

  428. Spartan December 24th, 2008 at 9:10 am

    I love how Peter Gammons is always wrong in his self-assured and smug predictions.

    He’s a Red Sox homer too.

    LOL

  429. Laughing in Lancaster December 24th, 2008 at 11:05 am

    Hey Pete!

    Long time, first time.

    Just have to say that you should stick to reporting and not predicting.

    I believe it was you two years ago that made some reference that there was a better chance of aliens landing in Central Park than A-Rod going back to the Yankees.

    Then, this year, you called all the Yankees fans (and a lot of your fans) a whole slew of unsavory words when Yankees fans on here would write, beg and plead for the NYY FO to sign Tex…

    You can add SJ44 to the list of people that should be eating foot today and just keep their uneducated, unknowing mouths shut.

    Salt, or pepper, with that crow?

    Furthermore, lets look at the last month:

    Yankees sign CC = Pete asleep after up all night at the craps table in Vegas.

    Yankees sign AJ = Pete asleep again… Probably after a vodka and Red Bull induced evening.

    Yankees sign Tex = Pete at Marley and Me, or whatever movie you went to yesterday.

    Seriously, I thought it was your job to break the news?

    NYYWS27in09!!!!

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