Yankees cut prices for Cubs games
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Dec 23, 2008 
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This release from the Yankees today:
NEW YORK YANKEES TO TURN BACK THE CLOCK ON VARIOUS TICKET PRICES FOR APRIL 3-4 EXHIBITION GAMES VS. CUBS; TICKETS FREE FOR FULL-SEASON PLAN HOLDERS, OTHERS TO RANGE FROM 25 cents TO $50
The New York Yankees announced today that full-season ticket licensees will receive complimentary tickets for the first exhibition games to be played in the new Yankee Stadium on April 3-4 vs. the Chicago Cubs, while partial-plan holders will receive the first opportunity to purchase tickets thereafter, via a pre-on-sale (restrictions apply). Individual-game ticket prices will not exceed $50 for either game.
For the inaugural exhibition contests, bleachers tickets will be priced at 25 cents, and grandstand tickets will be priced at $1.10—the same prices they were on April 18, 1923, the day the original Yankee Stadium opened. Tickets on the Terrace Level will cost between $20-35, tickets on the Main Level will be $20-45, and tickets on the Field Level will range from $45-$50.
Remaining tickets, subject to availability, will go on sale to the general public at a date to be determined in the future.
“To express our gratitude toward our full-season ticket licensees, we are offering tickets for these two exhibition games at no cost to them,” said Yankees Chief Operating Officer Lonn Trost. “The balance of tickets will be sold first to our partial-plan holders, then to the general public, at vastly reduced rates compared to the regular season. Using such a pricing model for these games allows us to thank our fans for their continued loyalty and introduce them to baseball’s new grand cathedral.”
Where can we buy tickeets?
Something tells me the concessions for these games will not be returned to 1923 price levels.
seriously
25 cent! Thats pretty awesome.
That’s very nice of them. Unfortunately, even though I’m a partial season ticket holder for MANY years now, they have only sent me one email, basically telling me there’s no way they can get me the equivalent seats I have held through their lean and fat years. And also to tell me, that, oh yeah, by the way, we won’t deal with you until after we take care of our A & B package holders. And another thing, we won’t let you know what’s going on for a while.
I am not going to renew my puny little 13 game package this year and will just get tickets on the open market. I am not happy with the way they have treated us. I’m glad they are selling so many tickets that they can afford to neglect their long-time, loyal fan base.
Paul
Would you like some cheese with that Whine?
lol vrsce……havnt heard that one in a while
The Yankees, on the other hand, continue to review their options, preparing for the possibility — however real it is — that **Teixeira might make them an offer that they couldn’t refuse.**
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3789581
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pulling a Beltran?
The service charge is going to cost more than a lot of these tickets!
Just read this over at MLBTradeRumors.com
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Teixeira Announcement Expected Today
By Tim Dierkes [December 23 at 10:28am CST]
10:28am: Buster Olney and Peter Gammons say Teixeira’s decision is “seemingly imminent.” The journalists say the Orioles’ negotiations for Tex “appear dormant.” They suggest the Yankees are lurking in case Boras offers Teixeira to them at a discount (or perhaps just to drive up the price for Boston).
10:20am: According to Thom Loverro of the Washington Times, “there will be an announcement today regarding the future of free agent first baseman Mark Teixeira.” Loverro says there are strong indications the Red Sox will be the victor, though it’s unclear whether those indications are based on inside information.
We learned from Roch Kubatko yesterday evening that the Nationals upped their bid to $178-184MM over eight years (Jim Williams says $178-183MM).
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NATS!!!!!!!
This REALLY pisses me off that the Sox will get Teixeira.
Fair and good that we signed two great throwers, but our offense as built now is anemic, way too many question marks, aging stars, and etc.
We NEED Tex, he is a PERFECT fit for our team, great fielder, switch hitter with our short porch, great OBP, great eye, takes alot of pitches.
Cash you REALLY dropped the ball here and let us down.
Go Yanks . .good Luck . ( even though i’d Manny )… But if the Yanks don’t get him . .GO NATS !
*pulling a Beltran?*
lets hope so.
i dont buy it. i think the report on the nats offer is correct and the bosox are not going to match it. you know he’ll have an opt-out (or 2) in there and if dc cant compete, he’ll get out. if you think about where the nats franchise is, tex means more to them in additional revenue than he would mean to the sox or the yankees. basically, dc is saying, whatever anybody else offers, we’re gonna top it in $ and/or years. boras cant say no to that.
If you have read my posts all along, you might not come to the conclusion that the Redsox are the front-runners in the Tex sweepstakes.
Tex will be in pinstripes in the next 48hrs unless the Yankees do not want him at any price. Tex is willing to give the Yankees a discount (how much I have no idea)
Why would he do this?
A) His childhood dream is to play 1B for the Yankees
B) Georgia prefers NYC over Boston (she doesn’t want to live in Boston)
Those 2 reasons alone are compelling.
I’m sorry, I never thought the Yankees were going to sign Tex at all, but if Boras comes to us and says “This is what Boston is offering – match it and he’s yours” I really just dont understand how we can say no..
Paul V, everyone, EVERYONE, who had ANY type of season plan is guaranteed getting a plan again for the new stadium. And no offense, but I’m sure there are plenty of full season and 41-game people who’ve been “long-time, loyal” fans waaaaay longer than you. There’s plenty of folks out there that wish they’d gotten in on the season ticket plans now….
…Cash you REALLY dropped the ball here and let us down….
Do you really think a north of 160 million $ contract is a Cash decision vs. an owner decision?
If you want to blame someone for “letting you down” contact Hal and Hank.
If we have a chance to sign Tex and we do not, I will NOT be buying any Yankee merchandise this year. Why else do we pay absurd prices to buy this crap and then with the billions the teams make they decide to save money?
Color me PISSED if we do not sign him.
We whiffed on Santana,Vlad,and Beltran, let’s not blow this too.
Bob
December 23rd, 2008 at 12:13 pm
This REALLY pisses me off that the Sox will get Teixeira.
Fair and good that we signed two great throwers, but our offense as built now is anemic, way too many question marks, aging stars, and etc.
We NEED Tex, he is a PERFECT fit for our team, great fielder, switch hitter with our short porch, great OBP, great eye, takes alot of pitches.
Cash you REALLY dropped the ball here and let us down.
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In the event that the Yankees don’t sign Teixeira, I can mail you a giant economy sized box of Kleenex. Just provide the address.
Theres always . .Manny being Manny !
“We learned from Roch Kubatko yesterday evening that the Nationals upped their bid to $178-184MM over eight years (Jim Williams says $178-183MM).”
at these prices we call that a rounding error.
…Cash you REALLY dropped the ball here and let us down….
Do you really think a north of 160 million $ contract is a Cash decision vs. an owner decision?
If you want to blame someone for “letting you down” contact Hal and Hank.
Yankee21, I do have to ask you this….
Is not this double speak? When we DO sign CC and AJ and HGH et al, we go great job CASH!! way to go CASH!! great GM Cash what a genius CASH!
So if we do not sign Tex, why all of a sudden is it , oh NOESSSS its Hal and Hank?
A bit of a built in excuse no?
Did you really think the Sox were going to be shut out this winter . .Come on Guys . .
We got the Pitching .. I”m sure Cash isn’t done yet
cash said a loooong time ago that the yankees werent going to be in on both cc and tex. you just refuse to believe him.
Lost in Tex-is — If the Yankees do not sign Tex would you post here anymore? Or under the same name? Or would you slink away like a lot of the other folks who do their best Nostradamus impression and come up short? If i’m wrong i’ll certainly apologize to you but i’m pretty sure the Yankees are not going to be the ones making the announcement at the stadium on this.
I definitely dont think we “whiffed” on passing up on Beltran.. the guy can barely handle the spotlight in Queens, god forbid we handed him abuse in the Bronx. By the time his contract was up he wouldnt have been able to speak english or spanish.
Lets Go Nats ! Lets Go Nats ! Lets Go Nats !
LOST IN TEX-IS, do you have inside information? Teixeira’s sister lives in Hoboken, doesn’t she?
“Lets Go Nats ! Lets Go Nats ! Lets Go Nats !”
I concur. Nick, time to come home!
Even if the economy were to do a complete turnabout, the free agent class next year will draw little interest. Scott Boras will have a difficult time shopping Matt Holliday in an otherwise drab market.
It’s a good reason why he’s trying to nail down as much commission for himself from this year’s clients.
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.c.....gents.html
NYY will have signed three big ticket FAs this winter. To think that they would sign 4 of them is illogical, unless Cashman and the Steinbrenners have thrown the budget out of he window and figured that this was their last chance to win now because of the age of the player core. If they did, a bat will be supplied…if not, they did better than anybody should have had the right to dream.
LOST IN TEX is Bobcat 2.0
A lot of noise and bluster behind an anonymous screenname, makes a big noise, gets everyone wound up, and if wrong, POOF off he goes to a new internet incarnation.
speculation about tex’s sister’s or wife’s preference is probably as helpful as all the info that came from cc’s friends….
*Teixeira’s sister lives in Hoboken, doesn’t she?*
indeed, she does.
i know he grew up idolizing Donny Baseball, but i dont think he’s going to not take millions of extra dollars because of that.
if the price is right, Cash will buy in.
if not, Tex will play elsewhere… simple as that, i think.
kill-schill(ing)
December 23rd, 2008 at 12:27 pm
LOST IN TEX-IS, do you have inside information? Teixeira’s sister lives in Hoboken, doesn’t she?
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Nobody lives in Hoboken. They only come from there and leave.
“speculation about tex’s sister’s or wife’s preference is probably as helpful as all the info that came from cc’s friends….”
Hoboken is alot closer to NY than Maryland and Boston.
somebody say hoboken?
doo be doo be doooo…..
pulling a Beltran?
lets hope so.
Wouldn’t surprise me if this is the case, that would really make for a great Christmas in Boston, juts like the pre-WS wins..to the doom and gloom….of yester year…I Love it..
Paul V
December 23rd, 2008 at 12:01 pm
That’s very nice of them. Unfortunately, even though I’m a partial season ticket holder for MANY years now, they have only sent me one email, basically telling me there’s no way they can get me the equivalent seats I have held through their lean and fat years. And also to tell me, that, oh yeah, by the way, we won’t deal with you until after we take care of our A & B package holders. And another thing, we won’t let you know what’s going on for a while.
I am not going to renew my puny little 13 game package this year and will just get tickets on the open market. I am not happy with the way they have treated us. I’m glad they are selling so many tickets that they can afford to neglect their long-time, loyal fan base.
PAUL, I feel your pain. I am full tix holder but had to wait forever to see where they’d stick me. Actually got lucky and am in reasonably similar spot, but other people with similar status got pushed way out of strike zone. I hate the whole new stadium thing and my heart goes out to you.
frankly
December 23rd, 2008 at 12:32 pm
somebody say hoboken?
doo be doo be doooo…..
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Scoobey, is that you? I didn’t know that you liked baseball.
I bet Pete is upset, I think he’s Sux fan…
just kidding Pete…:)
GB, LOL.
You guys know the majority of his family lives in Baltimore right, including wife and her friends ? His sister lives in Hoboken the rest live in Baltimore where he wants to play.
Vrsce
December 23rd, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Paul
Would you like some cheese with that Whine?
WHY WOULD anyone write something so mean-spirited? Do you have any idea what it’s been like for ticket holders with new stadium? It’s been a zoo and a joke and weirdly arbitrary.
You’re a disgrace to try to belittle this fan’s disappointment.
Pointless and mean.
Brandon (Cash on Tex “Not us” , CC & AJ are Yankees!)…”Bring on Dunn and Sheets!”:
He actually could pull the NY discount….I’m sure he’d prefer NY to Balt….He wants to have a chance to win as well as get paid.
bodhisattva
chill, dude!
you’re supposed to be enlightened.
*His sister lives in Hoboken the rest live in Baltimore where he wants to play.*
but i think the point is that noone really knows where Teixeira wants to play.
i heard Sabathia really wanted to play on the West Coast, too.
I think Cash has batted about .900 this offseason.
Hard to give anyone a perfect score.
But he judged the arbitration process properly. Although, he may have given up drafts picks, the Yankees still have a 1 and a 2 protected from last year. Given the market Abreu, Pettite and Irod may very well have accepted – which would have limited the ability of the team to sign others.
CC and AJ – Cash gets the two best pitchers on the free agent market. Maybe paid too much for CC, but if that is what it took to get him East so be it.
The Yankees pitching depth in the rotation, bullpen and HIGH minors leagues is extraordinary.
Marte signing a long term deal at a reasonable contract.
Swisher is a nice pick-up, and a great one if he has a rebound year.
Wang signing a deal keeps both sides happy.
Toronto and Baltimore are not making any moves (Toronto backwards).
I don’t think Cash is done. He can sign a corner OF, or even Abreu later at a reduced price. He will probably lock up a pitcher.
As Brandon suggested about the new signee from Mexico. Maybe he becomes the hitting version of Aceves. Remember they also signed Manny Banuelos from Mexico who has potential to be a fantastic lefty starter. They must have their scouting locked in in Mexico at this point.
You cannot sign everyone. But the correct emphasis was placed on pitching and defense and getting younger and getting more flexible.
Mission accomplished!
Nick Johnson will never be a Yankee again, get over it.
I do not claim to know Tex personally.
..but the only thing that I have said here that was not mentioned all over the internet is the fact that Mrs. Tex doesn’t prefer Boston.. everything else is “google-able”. I don’t prefer SF over NY, but if there was 40 million between that decision.. well, I can grow to like SF easy enough. On the other side of that, my wife can win almost any argument. I usually acquiesce.
I said that Tex will give the Yankees a discount (no idea how much) based upon my opinion with the facts that I know.. However, I have no idea what the Yankees plan to do or not.. which I personally think that if the Yankees don’t sign Tex, it won’t be because he does not have a strong desire to make it work for a deal to be had. Boras or no Boras.
Will I continue to post here:
Maybe? I dont know. It does seem to be a good place for a lot of different topics regarding the Yankees.
“He actually could pull the NY discount….I’m sure he’d prefer NY to Balt….He wants to have a chance to win as well as get paid.”
I don’t see him signing for 5/100 or 4/90, that would be a NY discount. In the end he’ll choose the money.
The newspaper reports that the Rays, Reds, **Yankees**, Phillies and Red Sox are also interested in Baldelli, **who recently received a far more encouraging diagnosis of his ongoing health problems**. Baldelli would be a good fit as a platoon partner for Brandon Moss and could also challenge Steve Pearce for the starting job in right field.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg.....irates.xml
Kurjkan (spelling) just said it’s boston for 8/175, and a opt out after 5.
I hope that’s not true.
frankly
December 23rd, 2008 at 12:41 pm
bodhisattva
chill, dude!
you’re supposed to be enlightened.
First of all, I don’t seriously claim to be a bodhisattva – that’s a goal of everyone’s hopefully.
And furthermore, compassion IS enlightenment.
A poster comes on here to be part of a community, feels jilted by the Yankees, whom he’s supported during “the lean years” (I know what those years were like, too), and some idiot makes a crack about his disppointment?
Chill? It’s a stupid comment made when the poster needs support. I’m supporting that poster, and if you know anything about the relocation circus, you’d be sympathetic, too.
Brandon (Cash on Tex “Not us” , CC & AJ are Yankees!)…”Bring on Dunn and Sheets!”:
It’s not totally impossible…we will see…
No to Dunn and forget Sheets…:)
There isn’t going to be a “discount”.
Didn’t some of you say the same thing re: Sabathia?
How did that “discount” work out?
Tex will take the highest offer on the table. It doesn’t matter where its from. If its Boston, trust me, his wife will “adjust”.
Its a 45 minute flight on a G-2 from Boston to Baltimore. I’m sure she will be able to “rough it” and survive.
If its Washington, they are in their own backyard. Either way, he can’t lose.
He isn’t signing a “lowball” offer from the Yankees. In fact, since the Yankees haven’t put an offer on the table, how can they “lowball” him?
If the reports are true and the Nats are up to 9 years, lowball offers are not viable.
Jason you can’t bank it on that kid Mexican league to MLB is not that easy. Jorge is very talented the Arod to Mexico, comparisons are of him being a mexican version of Albert Pujols.
Kurjkan (spelling) just said it’s boston for 8/175, and a opt out after 5.
I hope that’s not true.
Paulie, where did you hear,see,feel,intuit this??
So the Yanks offer 110mil for 5yrs…that would get it done, just saying..
Jim Rome, Bob. It was on the flash.
He said nothing announced, but “I’m hearing”..
He seems pretty convinced it’s Boston’s deal.
The mets were planning to charge 1964 prices for the games versus the red sox, but Bernie Madoff stole half their money so you have to pay full price
SJ44:
Nothing is impossible, you do remember the Beltran deal, the last call was to the Yanks for 20mill less..
Guys,
Player’s don’t hire Boras and hold out until Christmas to take “hometown discounts” or anything else.
He’s going where the money takes him, and that’s the way it has always been with Boras.
Why do you think A-Rod opted out? Because he “loved NY, and always wanted to play here?
Get a grip.
All winter long we’ve heard that the club is adamant about cutting payroll. All of the beat reporters have gotten this from the team and written it over and over.
In that light I thought it was very interesting what Kat O’Brien wrote in her column today regarding the budget:
“The Yankees would like to keep their payroll close to what it was in 2008 ($209 million). Given that desire, signing either Teixeira or Ramirez likely would close the door on bringing back Andy Pettitte or making any other notable signings.”
This is the first time I can recall seeing any of the beat writers get some kind of information from the team that suggested they were not going to cut payroll but keep it the same as last year.
I haven’t seen that reported or even suggested before.
Now this might be completely inaccurate information and the goal still might be to decrease the payroll.
But if this has any truth to it – that the team is ok with staying budget neutral from last year – then that to me suggests that they are going to add a bat.
Look’s like Tex is going to the Sox.
But what Olney wrote today about the yankees waiting and being willing to discuss a last minute deal was clearly leaked to him by someone in the yankees.
They seem to be sending a message to Tex that we’d like to have you but you have to work with us on price.
Last week all we heard was that the team could not take on any more large contracts.
Now the NY Times and Newsday are both saying that the yankees would strongly consider giving Tex a deal that is slightly above CC’s $160M. We’d heard nothing like that in the press prior to this weekend.
And at the same time the yankees have been described as “lurking” or staying in the “periphery.”
Again – this may be all nonsense – but it seems to me the team may be trying to sidestep boras with these leaks in the hopes of sending a message directly to Teixeira and see if he has a preference to play for the yanks.
It seems they are sending a message we’re willing to deal within these broad parameters and we’re willing to get something done within reason.
This may be all completely false information – but information that is getting out now regarding the budget and their willingness to deal is different than what we’d heard before publicly.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....8209.story
Brandon – Not suggesting he is the next Pujols. Only that in Aceves and Banuelos they have had very good success and a nice pipeline to the Mexican league. I think this goes in the positive column for now.
SJ44 again proven wrong, Teixeira on way to New York.
I’ll hold out some holiday “It’s A Wonderful Life” type hope that Tex takes our (possibly non-existent) low-ball offer.
If he ends up in Boston, so be it but I just hope we can get some loud “NOT A FACTOR” chants going at the stadium when our pitching is about to sweep those bums out of the Bronx.
*Player’s don’t hire Boras and hold out until Christmas to take “hometown discounts” or anything else.*
except Carlos Beltran, most noteably already said and well documented at the time.
CB – the Yankees have shown absolutely no “broad spectrum of reason” or willing to deal provied they can “work on the money” thus far this offseason.
Why would Tex be willing to sit down and talk about it?
Again, he’s taking the money, and laughing all the way to the bank. If he wanted to be in NY for less, he’d be here already.
How does a 110 million dollar deal “get it done”, when he has offers of more than 50 million more than that on the table?
Really, do some of you even think before you post?
Tell me the name of ONE Scott Boras client who is leaving 50 million guaranteed dollars on the table?
As far as opt out clauses are concerned, the LAST thing any team should do is hand them out like candy.
You don’t hand Tex an opt out clause if you are the Yankees. That would be dumb.
Face, it, they aren’t signing him, were never truly interested, and will go elsewhere to find a bat.
They upgraded their pitching staff dramatically and the lineup, as presently constructed, is still better than Tampa’s.
Its about pitching and defense and assessing the hitting market in January. Its the smartest thing they can do right now.
“Brandon – Not suggesting he is the next Pujols. Only that in Aceves and Banuelos they have had very good success and a nice pipeline to the Mexican league. I think this goes in the positive column for now.”
I know, I’m just saying he’s not going to stop anyone from signing an MLB FA.
Tim Clougher, TOTALLY agree with you! Sometimes I wonder what stops the Yanks from saying “we dont want you for 8-10 years” and instead we’ll throw more yearly cash at you than anyone else for a shorter term deal. Then, if you sign with us for 5 years, you’ll be 33 and still in your prime when you’re a free agent again, which Boras should love. Then, if Tex is loved in NY the Yanks have no choice but to resign him for tons more money and if it doesnt work out he gets more money elsewhere.
bodhisattva
Your post is a little pathetic.I f all Paul has to snivel is a delayed contact for his seat selection, he is a very lucky fellow. You moan even when you got good seats, lame. There are lots of real distress stories out there, without having to put up with your selfish drivel.
Slightly over CC’s contract . . What does slightly mean . . 5 million . .10 million ??
if the sox go 180 . .the Yanks will have to go 170 to 175 ..
Hopefully Tex takes the discount .
Also the Yanks didn’t make a low ball offer to Beltran, he came to us…This I believe to be the same as CB said if the indicator’s out there are true…
Brandon – 100% agreed. But depth in the minor’s is very nice.
I heard mad scientist Lucchinno on WEEI a week and a half ago and stated that the Sox DO NOT EVER give opt-outs (in response to Yanks CC opt out). Well let’s wait and see.
Turn Two.
I think that was more to NOT play for the Mets than it was to play for NY.
And one in a hundred is considered an outlier, not the norm.
Find me 5 other notable Boras clients who decided to take any form of discount or lower rate to play in NY or anywere else for that matter.
Well, “anti-SJ44″, if he is “on his way to NY”, I have no problems saying I was wrong.
Conversely, if he isn’t “on his way to NY”, you would have no problems admitting you were wrong, correct?
Paul V,
I’m in the same boat. I have to admit that after the way the Yanks have jerked around season ticket holders I’m glad they can’t sell all the luxury seats.I hate the reason they cant sell them,but I’m glad they Yankees are going to be left holding the bag for a while.This building is about revenue,it’s not about the fans. Li
Like you, I’ve been told to not expect seats near our old section 2 and to basically pound sand till they are good and ready to contact us.
SJ44:
What is guaranteed past 5yrs with an opt out clause…
Great gig…good job Yankees.
So where are all the hopeful pro-Teixeira fools?
Are the Yanks gonna “jump in” and swoop him up or is Boras merely attempting to frighten the Sox? I think the latter…he’ll be signed by Boston by 5pm.
“Why would Tex be willing to sit down and talk about it?”
I never said he would. I don’t think he’s going to. That’s why I said it appeared he’s on his way to Boston.
I was only commenting on my perception of what the yankee’s tactics have been with sending messages in public through the press.
This might be a completely ineffective tactic and totally unlikely given that Tex is unlikely to just bend and give any team some kind of beltran like deal.
I personally think he’ll take the highest offer, unless they are all reasonably close in which case he would probably not go to the nats.
But if the nats gave him a 9th year things could get interesting. I don’t see boston matching that.
So, no I don’t think he’s going to be with the yanks. I was more commenting on the issue of the budget and the signals the team is sending and how those signals have changed some.
I agree one hundred percent, SJ.
You honestly think Hank could have kept a Tex possibility secret this long? ha.
*Find me 5 other notable Boras clients who decided to take any form of discount or lower rate to play in NY or anywere else for that matter.*
so it goes from never happens to find me “X amount” many more examples.
kind of laughable.
i dont really care that much to do the research on it, i was just making a point that its happened before.
i think heard something about ARod dumping Boras when he finally figured out Boras was going to lead him out of the one place he wanted to play, but not sure.
of course, the yankees gave him market value anyway, but another example of a high profile client who told Boras to screw off.
5/110mill is more than he would make in the same time span…now if 8-9yrs is what they truely want the Yanks will let him walk…but they will get a call…
You honestly think Hank could have kept a Tex possibility secret this long? ha.
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Hahahahahaha
The only way the Yankees would have ever considered signing Teixeira is if Sabathia went somewhere else. That didn’t happen (thankfully) which means Teixeira will be going elsewhere.
*Find me 5 other notable Boras clients who decided to take any form of discount or lower rate to play in NY or anywere else for that matter.*
olney or gammons reported this morning that Carlos Beltran was willing to accept a lot less to sign with the Yankees when he was a free agent. Not sure how much truth there is to it, but he IS a Borass client.
I dont get the “CC or Tex” mentality.. we still have around $35mil to work with.. the yankees cutting payroll is a joke, maintaining the $200mil from last year will be considered “saving” in their world
Again, you guys want to hand out opt out clauses like candy.
Teams don’t like to do it unless they are desperate.
The Yankees were desperate for CC Sabathia. They are not desperate for Tex.
CC is at the top of his positional chart. Tex is not.
Arod was at the top of his positional chart when he got his opt out.
Albert Pujols? If he was a FA, you give him an opt out.
Tex? I wouldn’t do it if I was a GM. If others want to, that’s on them.
These type of discussions are examples as to why Scott Boras is so effective. He makes these deals a feeding frenzy and fans (as well as some team owners) go in too deep with some of his clients and overpay dramatically.
It happened with Kevin Brown, for example.
I’m not saying he is going to be a Yank, but anything possible….I’ve said all along, they probably wouldn’t go after him..however there is always a chance..he may really want to play hear, who know’s..if some of you know him personally and he told you this…I stand corrected…
Tim,
I agree…I don’t want Teix, I only want to drive the price up on Boston so that they are financially restrained when they need to re-sign Beckett, Youkilis, et al.
But, if the Yanks could get Teix for a shorter term contract like 4 years and $100 million, it’d be more enticing. I still say pass.
SJ44:
I’m just saying it could possilbly happen, I like you doubt it..but you have to admit it is possible..
Shame Spencer,
The idea is to keep the payroll around what it has been the past couple years…we don’t have to continuously do that if other opportunities are available.
Remember, we also have to re-sign Pettitte. That’s 10-12 million right there not to mention a bench that needs to be re-stocked.
Except Boras is still ARod’s agent, but what’s funny is you preface your comment with “i think I heard something”…
Well did you hear it or not? Boras is still very much ARod’s agent, so where is the “screw off” in that? Maybe he just meant “screw off for now”, and thanks for getting me all this extra cash.
A Rod needed to save face for the backlash he recieved for interrupting the world series.
And, you consider 10/300 market value? What freaking market are you talking about?
And the only thing that’s laughable is the fact that you point out the “never” as an arguing point to which you don’t feel like doing research to counter.
I ask again: 5 NOTABLE free agents who took less money to play in NY or anywhere else while being backed by Scott Boras.
SJ,
I agree…no opt out clause for Teix.
CC HAD to be signed by the Yanks…no question. He represented a HUGE need.
Teix is a want and one that would need to be at a reasonable price to be pursued. That is not the case.
I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. 1B is a much deeper position across baseball than is other positions/talent.
SJ . .its not so much the 1b postion .. its protection for Alex
*Three years ago, Carlos Beltran was a free agent, and near the end of his negotiations with the Mets, he offered to sign with the Yankees for a six-year, $96 million deal, or more than $20 million less than what the Mets had offered. The Yankees declined the proposal.*
That’s one that was “willing” to take less to come to the Yankees…didn’t though.
The Mad Prince in Pinstripes:
If the repoted contract number with Boston are correct, 8/175mil opt out after 5th, $21,875,000.00 a yr.
That’s why I said 5/110mil, I should have said might get it done because taht’s $22,000,000.00 a yr…
SJ44,
You are on.
“anti”
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SJ44, I tend to agree with you that Tex is probably not coming to NY for all the reasons you stated, but you said name five Boras guys who came to NY or other places for less, I can’t name five but I can name two — Beltran who begged to come here and Bernie Williams who basically told Boras to forget the Deal with Boston and he personally got the deal done with the yankees.
Bernie didn’t take a discount to come back to the dodgers.
The yankees matched boston’s offer at the last minute and bernie came back.
There was no discount – he got the same money from the yanks in the end that boston offered -87.5M
Sorry meant to write Bernie didn’t take a discount to come back to the yankees. Was reading another article while typing…
CB
December 23rd, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Bernie didn’t take a discount to come back to the dodgers.
The yankees matched boston’s offer at the last minute and bernie came back.
There was no discount – he got the same money from the yanks in the end that boston offered -87.5M
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Have a question for you and SJ or others. Mauer may come up on FA status after 2010 at age 28. Do you make a run at him, knowing that in all likelyhood that Montero and Romine will be most likely ready at the same time?
Montero won’t be a catcher by the time he comes up . Defensivley he’s not that good. . and the Yanks will mold him into a 1b or something
Romine is just he opposite . .A dirtdog .. great arm . .ok bat . he’s the future at catcher
GB7,
Mauer is one of the 7-8 best players in baseball. Unless Montero has transformed himself into a guy who is definitely going to be fine at catcher long term you have to make a run at Mauer.
Hopefully Montero does because mauer is going to get huge deal and it will carry a lot of risk. If he wears down and has to move positions he’s value plummets. With him its entirely the position he plays.
But he’s a first ballot hall of fame catcher in the making. You can’t just pass on that easily. He’ll be a free agent when he’s 27.
CB
December 23rd, 2008 at 1:33 pm
GB7,
Mauer is one of the 7-8 best players in baseball. Unless Montero has transformed himself into a guy who is definitely going to be fine at catcher long term you have to make a run at Mauer.
Hopefully Montero does because mauer is going to get huge deal and it will carry a lot of risk. If he wears down and has to move positions he’s value plummets. With him its entirely the position he plays.
But he’s a first ballot hall of fame catcher in the making. You can’t just pass on that easily. He’ll be a free agent when he’s 27.
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Thanks, CB. I was going to say that NYY had to make a run at him. Even if Montero makes it, having them split DH and catching would be great. I really do think that Romine will be making a position switch, within the next year or so. I’d think that a corner infield or outfield, possibly. He’s just not quick footed enough behind the plate and he’s slower to make his shifts than Montero.
Mike
December 23rd, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Montero won’t be a catcher by the time he comes up . Defensivley he’s not that good. . and the Yanks will mold him into a 1b or something
Romine is just he opposite . .A dirtdog .. great arm . .ok bat . he’s the future at catcher
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Actually, after watching them both catch over 50 games this past year, I’d say that it’s just the opposite.
*but what’s funny is you preface your comment with “i think I heard something”…*
i was being sarcastic when i said that, so no, i didnt preface it with anything to cover myself if it was false.
yes, it did happen. he told boras to screw off.
now i didnt doubt you’d come back with some sort of conspiracy theorists version of what occurred, that he fake-dumped boras, yada yada yada, and you certainly didnt prove me wrong.
*And the only thing that’s laughable is the fact that you point out the “never” as an arguing point to which you don’t feel like doing research to counter.*
you’re right… i dont feel like doing the reasearch because i just dont care enough to do it.
“If we have a chance to sign Tex and we do not, I will NOT be buying any Yankee merchandise this year. Why else do we pay absurd prices to buy this crap and then with the billions the teams make they decide to save money?
Color me PISSED if we do not sign him.”
Wow Bob how old are you? You sound so spoiled. The Yankees just spent $160 million dollars on the best starting pitcher on the market, and now you’re crying that they didn’t get you a new toy for first base. Jeez go suck your thumb someplace else.
signing tex for 8 to 10 years at 23 mill or so a year is not the right move long term.
he is 29 years old. I was hoping he wouldnt go for more than 7 years, but right now 9 years seems more likely. He isnt worth 23 mill a year, and after 6 years in that 8 or 9 year contract, he definitely wont be worth that money.
Also, do you honestly believe the yanks have a limitless payroll?…it has to end somewhere.
AJ isnt the right move long term either.
And at 28, we can live with CC for 7 years, if he doesnt opt out, but I think he has 4 real good years left, and then we will see what happens after that.
You can’t expect the yanks to sign everyone, and I wouldn’t even want them to sign everyone. Baseball really needs a smartly done salary cap one day. One with a floor and a top, as well as the ability to get out of salary cap hell (unlike the ridiculous NBA salary cap.)
if the offense is healthy (posada, matsui) and cano bounces back, it will be a deep, solid offense. it would be nice to get a big bat, but you cant get everything. we also don’t have a legit set-up man. Just some solid relievers we are hoping can get that job done this upcoming season.
Vrsce, do you think you’re cute or intelligent? Unfortunately, you’re neither.
Let’s see how many “FAT CATS” will want to be seen in the Big Buck Seats this year?
Let’s take the cap off SSI so the Big Boy’s can save the system.
Let’s get our Priorities straight.