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Hal: Not optimistic on Pettitte

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jan 06, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Sam Borden just checked in from the Bronx after speaking to Hal Steinbrenner. He touched on a few hot topics:

Andy Pettitte: He and Brian Cashman have talked about the situation. “We’re still looking at it,” Steinbrenner said. “They were not happy with our offer and we were not happy with what they wanted. Anything is possible.”

San said that Hal did not seem particularly optimistic.

On other owners being critical of the Yankees’ spending spree: “If some owners are upset we invest in our team, I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.”

Mark Teixeira: Hal said the the only formal offer the Yankees made was the one Teixeira accepted back on Dec. 23. It came together quickly that day. So while Cashman met with Teixeira and Scott Boras, the only offer came on Dec. 23.

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127 Responses to “Hal: Not optimistic on Pettitte”

  1. gayle January 6th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Cash did not sound overly optimistic either. He strongly thinks that this is the team they will go to spring training with.

  2. John January 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Looking forward to the 3-4 punch of Tex-Lex. Or Lex-Tex. Whatever it is, it’s good.

  3. Laura January 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Do we know if Pettitte is still looking for $16mil? If they are still talking, it would be interesting to know what number Andy is looking for. By now, I’m sure he knows $16mil is not going to happen. He must have lowered his request by now, but to what?

  4. Bob(The Original) January 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    I’ve really grown tired of Pettitte drama it seems every off season lately. To the point I’m completely indifferent as to whether he comes back or not.

  5. Al from BK January 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Hit the road Andy! How could you not want 10 mil to play on this team.

  6. Joe Monte January 6th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    Shelly Duncan gets the ax to make room for Teixeira on the 40 man roster?

  7. john January 6th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    I am beginning to like Hal more and more. He seems focused and seems to continue to take an active role for a guy that apparently wasn’t involved heavily until last year.

    I am a big Andy fan, but cannot fault them here. I mean come on. Gave Andy the benefit of the doubt with the steriods thing. Now if he goes elsewhere it will taint his legacy for me here. Not that I won’t still appreciate him and look at him as a Yankee, but I will see him in a far different light and less of the character guy I thought he was.

  8. jay destro January 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    if this is the way andy leaves, he looks really bad.

  9. john January 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Don’t go into the season depending on Hughes again please. Innings limitations for Hughes and Joba and then Burnett as always injury concern has the makings of blowing up again. If no Andy, go get a crafty vet than can fill spots.

  10. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6zM56Yq000

  11. S.A.-Brian "The Ninja" Cashman: Showing free agents lots of love January 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Bye Andy

  12. trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY! January 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    “They were not happy with our offer and we were not happy with what they wanted. Anything is possible.”

    Maybe I continue to get my Christmas wishes. No Lowe and no Andy.

  13. tim boat January 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    what is the corresponding roster move? who comes off the roster when Teix is added?

  14. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    [blockquote]

    On other owners being critical of the Yankees’ spending spree: “If some owners are upset we invest in our team, I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.”[/blockquote]

    Best. Quote. Ever.

  15. tim boat January 6th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    If no Andy – get Oliver Perez – this guy is a gamer, he steps it up in big spots, the only thing holding him back is walks.

  16. S.A.-Brian "The Ninja" Cashman: Showing free agents lots of love January 6th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    I’m liking Hal more and more

  17. trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY! January 6th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    “Hal said the the only formal offer the Yankees made was the one Teixeira accepted back on Dec. 23. It came together quickly that day. So while Cashman met with Teixeira and Scott Boras, the only offer came on Dec. 23.”

    So much for it being about money. Looks like Boras didn’t take the time to play around with the other teams and then make a decision.

    Oh well.

  18. Mike January 6th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    “If some owners are upset we invest in our team, I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.”

    LOL Love it Hal . !!!

    By the way . .time to get Oliver Perez

  19. ray (sox fan) January 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    I just saw a few clips from the Tex news conference.

    I have a confession. I am jealous of you guys! I really think that Tex will be a great player for you guys and will also be a very positive presence in the clubhouse.

  20. Trevor January 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Maybe you found the PC boring Mike because your not into press conferences? :roll:

  21. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    IDK what Diet Coke wants for a press conference, he sounds like he wanted cheerleaders and fire works…I like the low key press conference they’re organized real.

  22. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 6th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick says the Indians **have emerged as a strong candidate** to sign Pavano. He may seek a contract similar to Hampton’s.

    ———–

    the Central is sure going to love teeing off Pavano. :lol:

  23. Nick in SF January 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    gayle: I watched the same thing you did, I wouldn’t make a prediction one way or another based on that. He wasn’t going to give up anything about Andy. From what he said there, neither outcome would be a surprise.

  24. Tex's new best friend January 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Andy is playoff tested and proven, however, this Brett Favre drama is getting old real fast. Go take that mysterious 3/39 offer. He has now done this to the Yankees TWICE, and Houston. Either he is getting real bad advice from his agents, or he has lost his mind. Either way, he can watch the Yankees win the Series from his house.

  25. gayle January 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Why do I have a strange feeling that Pavano will thrive in Cleveland.

  26. ellen January 6th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Wow, Andy’s sure not doing his legacy any favors. After the second half he had, and the PED debacle, you’d think $10M would be plenty for the chance to play on this team.

  27. Laura January 6th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    “what is the corresponding roster move? who comes off the roster when Teix is added?”

    My guess is Duncan goes. We really don’t have any use for him.

  28. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    “the Central is sure going to love teeing off Pavano. ”

    You mean on the golf course right ?

  29. Cam January 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    So, if the only one offer was given, then he knew he wanted to be a Yankee. Even with other very large offers on the table, including a bigger one from Washington, he knew after meeting with Cash he wanted to be a Yankee, and all Cash had to do was give them a dollar figure which came together after a larger market didn’t open up. I like this signing and player more and more every day. Is it April yet?

  30. Al from BK January 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Now that theres no Andy I think we need Jon Garland to eat innings. Maybe Ollie Perez? He is wild but maybe he finally harnesses his talent.

  31. GreenBeret7 January 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    tim boat
    January 6th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
    If no Andy – get Oliver Perez – this guy is a gamer, he steps it up in big spots, the only thing holding him back is walks.

    ————————————————————

    Right…Game over every time he walk in 3 runs in the 7th inning. You’d see plenty of that.

  32. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    GB said Oli Perez could pitch lights out for us.

  33. Trevor January 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Those seats are $100 dollars Mike.

  34. S.o.S. January 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    “I do feel a little sorry for the Big G. Could not have been easy watching Tex put on his number.”

    Would you feel the same way if Burnett wore Pavano’s number?

    ray,
    Im jealous that you can actually get along with your hated rivals. I could not get myself to get along with a Sox fan. You dont count as i have convinced myself that your a Yankee fan deep inside. Your one in a million in my book.

  35. john January 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Here’s the thing though mentioned it before. Tex said he and his wife said he wanted to be a Yankee 2 weeks before Xmas. That means no offer was on the table and was this prior to the Red Sox making their Texas trip?????????????????????????

  36. Laura January 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    “Either he is getting real bad advice from his agents, or he has lost his mind.”

    I think it’s the former. In the press clips, he talks mutiple times about letting his agents handle it. I think they are screwing him over. For all we know, Andy wants to take the 10mil and it’s the agents telling him that it’s a bad idea.

    I don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes; maybe the Yankees did up their offer to at least 12mil and the agents are saying “no way”. You would think that Andy would watch these press conferences and be dying to be on the team next year. This is a real head scratcher.

    P.S. Oliver Perez is a head case, who only pitches well against us. Why would we want to sign him?

  37. trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY! January 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    “So, if the only one offer was given, then he knew he wanted to be a Yankee. Even with other very large offers on the table, including a bigger one from Washington, he knew after meeting with Cash he wanted to be a Yankee, and all Cash had to do was give them a dollar figure which came together after a larger market didn’t open up. I like this signing and player more and more every day. Is it April yet?”

    Cam – stop trying to make sense! You know it infuriates the negative nellies here!

    ;)

  38. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    Brandon,

    actually let me revise it…the Tigers and Twins will love teeing off Pavano. :D

  39. trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY! January 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    “Here’s the thing though mentioned it before. Tex said he and his wife said he wanted to be a Yankee 2 weeks before Xmas. That means no offer was on the table and was this prior to the Red Sox making their Texas trip?????????????????????????”

    Looks LIKE it!

  40. jennifer January 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    It sounds like 16 is what he is looking for. If they went to Cash and the Yankees and said lets meet in the middle. I don’t see the Yankees turning that down.

  41. Laura January 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    “I do feel a little sorry for the Big G. Could not have been easy watching Tex put on his number.”

    “Would you feel the same way if Burnett wore Pavano’s number?”

    Um, no. :)

  42. ray (sox fan) January 6th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    ray,
    “Im jealous that you can actually get along with your hated rivals. I could not get myself to get along with a Sox fan. You dont count as i have convinced myself that your a Yankee fan deep inside.”

    SOS…have you been talking to GB7? :) He claims I am a closet Yankee fan too!

  43. Laura January 6th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    “It sounds like 16 is what he is looking for. If they went to Cash and the Yankees and said lets meet in the middle. I don’t see the Yankees turning that down.”

    You would think. Again, we don’t know what the heck is going on with this negotiations. The whole thing is very disappointing.

  44. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    “actually let me revise it…the Tigers and Twins will love teeing off Pavano.”

    You think he’ll make it to the mound 8O

  45. Al from BK January 6th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    16 for Andy we might as well gamble on 12-14 for Ollie.

  46. ellen January 6th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    As for Tex: He’s here and he’s happy – does it really matter why? Who cares in what order he lists the exact reasons for his happiness? Be happy, too.

  47. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 6th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    With the market for his services still quiet, free agent Orlando Cabrera is reportedly telling teams he’s open to moving to second base. **Cabrera’s agent tried to get the Yankees interested in him as a second baseman, but that didn’t work** .

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....akes-sense

    —–

    hmm what the hell? :shock:

  48. no.27 January 6th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Ham,

    “first of all, what does any of that have to do with what actually happened?”

    It’s almost the same situation. People are looking at the same information and some are saying, “Cashman definitely made the right move. You’d have to be an idiot to think otherwise.” What I’m saying is that if the Yankees were truly committed to building the farm system, they could have taken the risk that he and Marte would sign for the draft picks.

    At worst, Abreu takes the 1 year deal, and the Yankees don’t go after Swish or Marte and trade Nady and keep the pay roll would be $2mil higher and the lineup is better. How is what Cashman did better? Because then they DEFINITELY wouldn’t have gone after Teixeira, just like most said they DEFINITELY wouldn’t have anyway?

    I’m not saying that Abreu definitely would or wouldn’t have accepted arbitration because I understand that I can’t see into the future. I’m saying it was worth the risk. If you think it wasn’t worth the risk, explain why.

    This is the trade off in black and white IF Abreu accepted: Abreu, whatever you get back for Nady, and 2 draft picks OR Swisher, Nady, Marte, $2 million (and a long term commitment to Swisher who may or may not bounce back)

  49. pat January 6th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    “he knew after meeting with Cash he wanted to be a Yankee, and all Cash had to do was give them a dollar figure which came together after a larger market didn’t open up.”

    I think it may have been a little more complex than that or else Tex wouldn’t have taken the Boston meeting and wasted DC, Baltimore and Anaheim’s time. He kept them in play to get Cash to write the check which Tex and Boras guessed he would. If the Yanks offer had been 8/$150, Tex would be playing 160 miles north this year.

  50. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 6th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    You know, I had a higher opinion of Mark Shapiro than that…

    Maybe they’re trying to rebuild the no-pitch/all-hit model they had in the late 1990s…

    (I’ve got this image of Jaret Wright getting booted in the first inning of Game One of the 1998 ALCS…)

  51. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    “You think he’ll make it to the mound”

    LOL burn. :lol:

  52. GreenBeret7 January 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees)
    January 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
    GB said Oli Perez could pitch lights out for us.

    ————————————————————

    That’s not entirely what I said, Brandon. I also said that some days he’d be lights out and most of the time he’d pitch like somebody turned out the lights at the same time that he was trying to find the plate.

    Too much money for too long a time, and it effectively shuts out any upwardmovement of Brackman, De La Rosa, McAllister and the rest. Not all of them will be great, but, out of the 8 top rotation pitchers, 3 will make a mark.

  53. YankeeRay January 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    john
    January 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
    Here’s the thing though mentioned it before. Tex said he and his wife said he wanted to be a Yankee 2 weeks before Xmas. That means no offer was on the table and was this prior to the Red Sox making their Texas trip?????????????????????????

    —–

    Yes, so Henry and rest of sockies were lame ducks and didn’t know it. The yankee offer though not offered yet was a formality once Boras went through the process. We knew it and they knew, just the sockies didn’t know it lol.

  54. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Giants are interested in Nady, Swisher maybe even Matsui…I’m just saying thier is a LHP named Jonathan Sanchez and they might even throw in Noah Lowry…but umm this could be an interesting route.

  55. Nick in SF January 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    “Giants are interested in … maybe even Matsui”

    Current link?

  56. Laura January 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Who called Tex’s wife and told her not to wear jeans? :P

  57. trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY! January 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Mark this in your little black books.

    Matsui is not going anywhere but back to the Bronx.

  58. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    “Matsui is not going anywhere but back to the Bronx.”

    I second that.

  59. CB January 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Ray,

    I’m sure this is a tough day in boston. Imo boston management via leaks to the press really put the horse before the cart and not only raised fan expectations way to high on the probability of tex being a done deal but also way over did the idea of how critical a signing tex was.

    You have guys have an excellent, deep, well balanced club.

    The al east will be a dog fight. Any separation in talent is well within any reasonable margin of error.

    And I still think the sox will have a big move to make. Catcher seems like the spot.

  60. GreenBeret7 January 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    ray (sox fan)
    January 6th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
    ray,
    “Im jealous that you can actually get along with your hated rivals. I could not get myself to get along with a Sox fan. You dont count as i have convinced myself that your a Yankee fan deep inside.”

    SOS…have you been talking to GB7? He claims I am a closet Yankee fan too!

    ————————————————————

    Ray, you caught me on a day I was being nice (tha doesn’t happen often). I was just going to say someting about you coming out of the closet, but, it was Christmas.

    Afternoon, Ray. Hope all is going well in the (sox fan) house.

  61. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    Brandon, como lo sabes?

  62. S.o.S. January 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    ray,
    Had no idea. All i have to say is its obvious and we are accepting band wagon applications for this next dynasty run. Im going to send you one.

    As far as this who cares if he wanted to be here or not talk. I just want someone to come out and say ” I came here for the money. Who would walk away from all the money the Yankees can offer? I hated the Yankees till they showed me the money and everyone knows its all about the money. Thank you for making me an offer and i hope your checks dont bounce.” Is that too much to ask for?

  63. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    “That’s not entirely what I said, Brandon. I also said that some days he’d be lights out and most of the time he’d pitch like somebody turned out the lights at the same time that he was trying to find the plate.”

    Close enough.

    “Too much money for too long a time, and it effectively shuts out any upwardmovement of Brackman, De La Rosa, McAllister and the rest. Not all of them will be great, but, out of the 8 top rotation pitchers, 3 will make a mark.”

    I know and you left out Betances. GB in D.R. our boy Melvin Croussett LHP flame thrower/nasty hammer is being fast tracked alot of people believe he’s the next Sandman they even nicknamed him “Acesino de los suenos” “The Dream Assassin” look for him to be making his push to the states in 09′ or early 10′. ;)

  64. Hi-Dee January 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    “What differences did A-Rod and Teixeira have?”

    Does everyone who’s so happy about Tex harbor the same feelings for the best player on the team, A-Rod?

    Also, what about CC? He acted like coming to NY was like getting teeth pulled. Will you “boo” him?

    A-Rod wanted to go to Boston, but the union wouldn’t let him play for less, so he took the cash and came to NY. It sickens me when A-Rod is playing well how you all fawn over him, then trash him when he merely plays to all-star levels. They are all mercenaries and you know it.

    Tex $$ motivations certainly also played a part. Boras made sure of that. Theo knew this and probably didn’t want to waste the time getting into a bidding war they wouldn’t win.

  65. feefoo January 6th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    if giants wanted swisher they couldve traded for him before

  66. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    “Current link?”

    No for Matsui I said maybe, Swisher and Nady are getting a bit of interest from SF.

  67. carl January 6th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    Tex on wfan.com in 4 mins

  68. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    “if giants wanted swisher they couldve traded for him before”

    We got to him first.

  69. BBFan January 6th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Forget about Andy. We all love him, but that train has left :)

    Read between the lines what Cash said. This is the team we will go with in 2009. They will continue to say they are still looking into it just for the sake of public relations. There will not be any more interaction for now between Andy and Yanks. I think Pettitte will retire. If not, he is going to be as big a phony as Clemens given he said money does not matter and for his family sake he would retire.

    I still believe that if the yongsters fail, there is a possibility that Andy may come back in the middde of the year at $16 mil prorated to satisfy his ego.

  70. Confucius January 6th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    “Too much money for too long a time”

    How much do you expect it will take to get him? There’s been almost no reported interest in him up to this point. He’s a Type A free agent. Teams are reluctant to give up a 1st or 2nd round pick for his inconsistency. Even the Red Sox, who are attached to their draft picks, would be hard pressed to give up their 1st round pick for him. We’d only be giving up a 4th round pick.

    Once you get to 10m/year, teams would only want to pay him to be a 2nd or 3rd starter, again something they’ll be loath to do for such an inconsistent pitcher. We can insert him as a 4th or 5th starter depending on where you’d place Joba. And we’d be paying him what we’d have paid Pettitte.

    In a way, his inconsistent pitching works to our advantage. We have the luxury of being able to overpay for a 4th or 5th starter and only needing to part with a 4th round pick because we’ve already given up our top 3 picks. He is a perfect fit, to say nothing of the fact that he historically thrives on the big stage that we’d provide him.

    Again, what is the alternative for Pettitte’s spot?

  71. john January 6th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Arod made a comment that he wouldn’t have signed with Texas if he knew he would be surrounded by kids during his time there alluding to the young teamates he had which included Tex. Tex took exception to it back then, but I think they talked and that was a dead issue. As usual Arod saying the wrong thing. May have been around the time the Jeter?Arod article came out with Arod making the Jeter comments.

  72. feefoo January 6th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    this is the same andy pettitte who backstabbed his best friend to save himself

  73. john January 6th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Like Sanchez, good arm and a lefty. But you have to see what they want for him. Lefties take time to develop too and having CC would probably help him. That would be a worthwhile pickup if he were available.

  74. Casey January 6th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    How about renewing the trade talk for Washburn? Very similar to Pettitte in stats, salary, and a lefty. I think they need a reliable (innings) pitcher in the rotation. Burnett (injury), Joba (injury, innings), and Hughes (innings) leave too much possibility of starts by Ponson/Pavano or comparables.

    Before you lecture, I know Ponson and Pavano aren’t on the team anymore.

  75. trisha - CC and AJ and Sheets - OH MY! January 6th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    *from boston.com* – the home of the Boston Globe

    Worth the entire read!

    “The Yankees officially introduced first baseman Mark Teixeira at a press conference at the old Yankee Stadium this afternoon. Here are few notable comments from the 28-year-old slugger, who agreed to an eight-year, $180 million free agent contract with New York Dec. 23, jilting the Red Sox, who were thought by many to be his first choice:

    On whether he planned on signing with the Yankees all along:

    “The whole process was confusing. Sometimes I’d tell Scott to stop calling me, then I’d call him five times a day saying, ‘Tell me what you know!’ Two weeks before Christmas, I talked to [my wife] Leigh about it again, and we kind of decided that, hey, the Yankees are where we want to be. Cash [Brian Cashman] might want to give Leigh a hug, because when I asked her during the process, ‘Where should I go, where should I go?,’ she’d always say, ‘I just want you to be happy.’ Finally she said, ‘I want you to be a Yankee,’ and it was a done deal. Once we got the contract figured out, it was a no-brainer for me.”

    *It’s interesting to note that the Red Sox’ visit to Teixeira’s home in Texas came on Dec. 18, which is just a week before Christmas. If Teixeira’s comments can be taken at face value, he made his mind up a week before the Sox’ trip.*

    On the Yankees’ sales pitch:

    “I was very impressed with Cash when he came out to visit me in Washington. It took about a month to narrow our choices down to five teams. Cash made a nice video of Yankee Stadium and gave me the full college recruiting pitch, and at the end of that week, I talked to [Agent] Scott [Boras], I talked to Leigh, and I decided the Yankees were where I wanted to be. In my mind, the Yankees were always the top.”

    On coming to the end of the free agent process:

    [It's] a lot of relief [having it over with]. I’d be lying to say it wasn’t a stressful position. Scott warned me a few years ago that if I went to free agency it would be be like this . . . [But] once it hit me I was going to be a Yankee, it was a feeling of pure joy, just the excitement of being a Yankee. And [it felt good] to call my family in Baltimore to tell them. I played in Los Angeles, Atlanta, my first few years in Texas, now I’m the closest I’ve been to them, so now they can see me play. So it’s a little relief and a lot of excitement.”

    On growing up a fan of Yankees great Don Mattingly:

    “I think it says a lot that a kid who grew up in Baltimore, whose family had season tickets in Baltimore, would cheer for . . . Mattingly. People would say, ‘Why not Eddie [Murray], why not Cal [Ripken]?,’ but there was just something about Don Mattingly. My dad would take me to O’s games and I’d wear a Yankees hat, which wasn’t too safe in Baltimore back in the ’80s. But it was worth it. There’s something about being a Yankee, no where you are there are Yankees fans, and I’m glad to be a Yankee today.”

    On his goals as a Yankee:

    “What I’m trying to accomplish in my career, my goals, are the same goals as the Yankees’: to win the World Series. I’ve been blessed to play . . . with some great players in my career, and now I’m getting to play in the greatest organization in sports history with some of the greatest players in sports history.”

    ________________________________________________

    Oh yeah I thank the dear Lord for making me a Yankee fan!

  76. Al from BK January 6th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Nady+prospects for Jon Sanchez :)

  77. gayle January 6th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    So Big G signs a 4.5 million 1 year deal with a 5 million team option for the 2nd year. Talk about a pay decrease. Stunning.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/01.....147766.htm

  78. G. Love January 6th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    If Pettitte doesn’t re-sign (and I believe he will come back before all is said and done), then this team needs an innings eater veteran.

    I know a lot of the groupies on here are clamoring for Hughes, but this team cannot take the chance they took last season again.

    Pushing Joba up to #4 and having 2 innings restricted young pitchers, one who had a shoulder issue last year and the other who was both ineffective and unable to stay healthy on the field is exactly the way not to build a ball club.

    Cashman rolled his dice last season and we all saw what happened.

    I do not expect him to roll the dice like that again.

    Hughes has to show he can stay healthy for a season before we give him anything, let alone prove that his flat straight fastball from last season is a thing of the past. His ineffectiveness was probably part of the injury situation, but until he proves otherwise against better competition than the Arizona Fall League offers (mostly AA), he should not be given anything.

    If Pettitte is truly gone, it’s time to start considering what other veteran sturdy innings eating options are out there.

    I’m ambivalent on Oliver Perez. On one hand he’s 27, lefty and can K double digits in a game. On the other hand, he’s completely unpredictable and will require a long term commitment year wise (I don’t care about $).

    There has to be something wrong with Sheets for him not to have gotten anything at this point.

    Garland doesn’t do anything for me.

    Lowe is going to require 3+ years which is too many.

    Andy really is the perfect fit for this team to hold down an important spot and allow the Hughes and other prospects another year to develop.

    If 12 million with performance options gets him to come back, the Yanks should do it as his signing doesn’t clog up the rotation for years to come and adds a veteran presence who can win in NY and understands NY…something I think the other pitchers on the team might need since it doesn’t appear Eiland and Girardi are the greatest communicators.

    After Pete’s earlier post today about Valentine, I can’t imagine Girardi isn’t looking over shoulder already knowing that the expectations are higher than last season.

    That said, if Andy won’t come back for less than 16 million guaranteed the Yankees have every right to decline…but there has to be a middle ground where they can and will eventually meet.

  79. john January 6th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Thanks for the Boston.com article. That was my first thought when he said it. Now whether he didn’t like the Sox to begin with and that was the issue or this was the truth to begin with he certainly will easily be hated in Boston now. They must be fuming with the owner’s egos up there !!! I am sure they love Boras too.

  80. ellen January 6th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    I must say that I’ve never watched a press conference for a player going to another MLB team. What do they say? “I’ve always wanted to be a Diamondback?” “I love the winning tradition here in Pittsburgh?”

  81. Guiseppe Franco January 6th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Nady+prospects for Jon Sanchez

    —————-

    Sanchez is a Perez clone right now. I wouldn’t rely on him to take the #5 slot.

    Molina might have to be his own personal catcher because he allows so many walks.

    Can’t have Posada and his bum shoulder catching a guy like that.

  82. GreenBeret7 January 6th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees)
    January 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
    “That’s not entirely what I said, Brandon. I also said that some days he’d be lights out and most of the time he’d pitch like somebody turned out the lights at the same time that he was trying to find the plate.”

    Close enough.

    “Too much money for too long a time, and it effectively shuts out any upwardmovement of Brackman, De La Rosa, McAllister and the rest. Not all of them will be great, but, out of the 8 top rotation pitchers, 3 will make a mark.”

    I know and you left out Betances. GB in D.R. our boy Melvin Croussett LHP flame thrower/nasty hammer is being fast tracked alot of people believe he’s the next Sandman they even nicknamed him “Acesino de los suenos” “The Dream Assassin” look for him to be making his push to the states in 09’ or early 10’.

    ————————————————————

    Brandon, I can’t make any real comments on the kids out of the Dominican leagues because I haven’t seen them. I didn’t include Betances by name, but, he is one of the top 8-10 young arms, but, if half of them became something special in NYY, I’d be shocked. Not for lack of talent, just too many things can go wrong with that number of pitchers.

    I’ll be interested to see where they move kids like Romine and Laird to. They’ll need to try the corner outfield spots or maybe move Laird back to third, though I don’t see him as a third baseman. Possibly move Romine there and see what happens. Suttle is the Yanks version of Billy Butler…all bat, no glove.

  83. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 6th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Giambi phones home!! :D

  84. Chris from NJ January 6th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    I don’t think Andy not coming back tarnishes his legacy, despite a couple of viles of hgh. I don’t think he will pitch for another team, but 10m might not be enough for him to pitch anywhere. I don’t see anyone giving him more than 10m, and if he takes less to play for a team other than the Yankees, that is messed up.

  85. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    “Asesino de Sueños”

    (god I can’t believe I screwed up the spanish language there) anyway when is this interview starting on WFAN ?

  86. matt January 6th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    what is sterlings hr call going to be?

  87. matt January 6th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    what is sterlings hr call going to be?

  88. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 6th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    The Yankees do need another starter, I don’t think anyone denies that.

    That said, honestly, right now I don’t care who the Yankees sign, as long as he stays healthy…

  89. Laura January 6th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    So is the PHI World Series win tainted now that Romero was caught juicing? PHI called the Mutts chokers. I guess now the Mutts can call them cheaters.

  90. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    “Brandon, I can’t make any real comments on the kids out of the Dominican leagues because I haven’t seen them.”

    Trust me you’ll hear about this kid soon, he just turned 20 I think it was a few weeks ago on the 28th.

    http://minors.baseball-referen.....?pid=34980

    He won’t be just hype.

  91. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Matt: Some sort of “Don’t mess with Tex” type pun, I’d imagine.

  92. YankeeRay January 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Even Mike said the Yankees have their limits and Manny would be tough to swallow as everyone would go home lol.

    But that said, who cares if they go home because they will all laugh at us now if we don’t win so lets go for the kill.
    If Nady and Matsui are tradeable then we can get Manny too.

    The Sox will continue to try and improve like they did by inquiring about Hanley.
    The Rays added Burrell to their already good team with strong pitching.
    While we have upgraded, we haven’t gone over the top as Tex replaces Giambi but we can still add a bat as long as we remove some payroll.

    Ok Ham , I’ll get off my soap box but I’m just sayin.

  93. Tom January 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Again, what is the fascination with Jonathan Sanchez?

  94. john January 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    It’s a Tex-as sized Moonshot

  95. YankeeRay January 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    matt
    January 6th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
    what is sterlings hr call going to be?

    ——-

    As previously stated, ” A Text message form texeira”

  96. GreenBeret7 January 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees)
    January 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
    “Brandon, I can’t make any real comments on the kids out of the Dominican leagues because I haven’t seen them.”

    Trust me you’ll hear about this kid soon, he just turned 20 I think it was a few weeks ago on the 28th.

    http://minors.baseball-referen.....?pid=34980

    He won’t be just hype.

    ————————————————————

    I’m hoping that Sabathia will give him, De La Rosa and Edwar Ramirez a copy of his diet book and recipes. I assume he’ll be in Charleston this season?

  97. ellen January 6th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    New Pete post.

  98. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    “Again, what is the fascination with Jonathan Sanchez?”

    Great upside, great stuff, cheap and cost controlled for a # 4 SP to work w/ Eiland and Harkey could be the best thing that happens for him. A BABIP that is always in the above .300 which means his D has let him down, if the walks get fixed he could be a dominant # 4 SP in the AL.

  99. ham fighters January 6th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    im beginning to think its not just dollars but maybe years thats holding up the pettitte thing. we can all make the argument about whether its worth fighting over the 2 or 3 million that probably stands between them, but since there seems to be no movement, im guessing that the hendricks are asking for multiple years at $12M or more. we have all been assuming that he only wants a one year deal and the yankees certainly dont want to commit to mulitple years considering they have 3/5 of the rotation tied up for big dollars with young arms on the way.

    im guessing the mystery offer had more to do with extending the years than the aav.

  100. no.27 January 6th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    If Burnett wasn’t an injury risk, I’d be OK with Hughes and Joba at the back of the rotation with Aceves, Kennedy, and the rest ready to step in. At the same time, I think the Yankees need to leave a spot open for Hughes for next year. I think he’ll be at least as good as Lowe, Perez, or any of the other free agents that will demand more than a 1 year deal. And that says as much about the free agents as it does about what I think Hughes can be expected to do in 2010. If Pettitte and the Yankees can’t work something out they should make a trade for Washburn or another pitcher on a 1 year deal, or sign someone who will take a 1 year deal.

  101. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    “I assume he’ll be in Charleston this season?”

    I hope so. He certainly stuff from what I heard, and might be the nastiest LH power closer we ever had in our system.

  102. john January 6th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Jonathan Sanchez 26 LHP. Dominates lefties. Low to mid 90s fastball. Change up. Could end up as starter or reliever. Lefties take longer to develop. Look at what guys like Danks have turned into after developing. It’s another young quality arm and nice addition.

  103. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    He certainly has the stuff *

  104. YankeeRay January 6th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    ham fighters
    January 6th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
    im beginning to think its not just dollars but maybe years thats holding up the pettitte thing. we can all make the argument about whether its worth fighting over the 2 or 3 million that probably stands between them, but since there seems to be no movement, im guessing that the hendricks are asking for multiple years at $12M or more. we have all been assuming that he only wants a one year deal and the yankees certainly dont want to commit to mulitple years considering they have 3/5 of the rotation tied up for big dollars with young arms on the way.

    im guessing the mystery offer had more to do with extending the years than the aav.

    ——

    I agree but if they wanted to go multiple years there would be better options. The 1 yr deal makes sense to clear space for the young pitchers and multiple years for Andy doesn’t make sense.

  105. YankeeRay January 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    1- Winning every year
    2- Family
    3- Money

    There ya have it from the horses mouth

  106. Andrea January 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    I don’t care what anyone says. I want Andy back.

  107. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    update >>>>

  108. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Jason Johnson is not worth >>>> :lol:

  109. able 21 January 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    I can’t figure Andy out sometimes. He has more money than he’ll ever be able to spend. He wants to play for the Yankees. 10 million is big money.

    Sometimes you have to do an Arod and tell your agent to F off. Bad advice to reject the offer.

    Thoughts?

  110. Confucius January 6th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Just looking at Olie’s gamelog for last year, 17 of his 34 starts were quality starts (6 innings, 3 or fewer runs). His remaining 17 starts included some godawful ones, but also these:

    5 2/3 innings, no runs, 3 walks, a loss to the Phillies

    5 2/3, 5 walks, but no runs, in a 4-2 win over the Phillies

    6, 4 runs, 3 walks, in a 5-4 win over the Angels

    6, 4 runs, no walks, in a 4-0 loss to Houston

    6 1/3, 4 runs, 1 walk, in a 6-4 loss to Houston

    the last game against the Marlins, a huge one, shut them down over 5, then gave up the three hits in the 6th and got the quick hook from Manuel. in such an important game, you take that start. biggest problem was the lack of offense.

    Including those, 23 out of 34 starts were what I’d consider good for a 4th or 5th starter. He shut down Atlanta, Florida, and Philly all year. Terrible starts included ones against Washington, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, SF, Seattle … cellar dwellers. He seems to lose it against the really bad teams, which speaks a lot to his need to pitch on a big stage, something he’d always have with the Yanks. But the idea that he only pitched well against NY is absurd, as is the idea that ‘most’ of his starts were terrible.

  111. Vince January 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Hey Andy, don’t let the door hit ya.

    People are out there busting their butts, and still losing their jobs. You are offered $10 million for ONE YEAR, after you were terribly mediocre, and refuse?? That makes me sick.

  112. Brandon (CC & AJ now Marky Mark (they stilled over paid him) are Yankees) January 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Confuscious BABIP and whip please ..

  113. Greg Costello January 6th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Andy and I have something in common: I also was not happy with the Yankee’s offer of 10 million.

    I would have offered him 8.

  114. Tarbaby January 6th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    As Michael Kay would say: “SEE YA!” Nice knowing you Andy. Thanks for the good times in the late 1990s (even though you never made it easy). For you not to accept $10 million to pitch (every 5th day – weather permitting) for this team is unbelievable. Ten years ago you may have had the clout to hold out, but certainly not now. This is particularly unsettling to me since the Yankees stood behind you in your difficult times. You don’t even deserve $10 million. Business is business, and you’re allowing your foolish pride to influence you. Say hi to your old friend Roger when you get the chance and have fun in LA.

  115. Brad January 6th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    I don’t believe that I’ll ever stop laughing over the fact that John Henry, Larry Lucchino, and Theo Epstein wasted a flight to Texas in December.
    They’ve devoted their time to signing scrap heap types ever since. As usual, their delusional fans will say the Socks are World Series bound the first time they can string together 4 wins in a row. Sooooooo hilarious.

  116. Neil January 6th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    able 21 -

    I too can’t understand why Pettitte turns down $10M at the tail end of his carrier.
    He must want the Yankees to pay his legal costs from the D.C. hearings of last year.
    What No. 4-5 starter tops $10M ?

  117. able 21 January 6th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Neil and Tarbaby – Agreed. I’ve been thinking of Andy’s press conference over the steroids issue all afternoon. I am incredibly disappointed in Andy. Time to move on.

  118. gianthinker January 7th, 2009 at 1:21 am

    Bringing Sheets, Wolf or O. Perez in would be great. Trading for Jonathan Sanchez would be a great move as well if we could give them Swisher, Nady or Matsui. I’m really big on signing Ben Sheets though. I know he is a bit of a risk but he was only hurt 2005-2007 seasons and besides that was one of the biggest work horses in all of baseball! He has ace stuff and started the All-Star game THIS YEAR in Yankee Stadium. This guy is way too talented to still be on the market. He’s not getting a big deal or he’d be signed already. Pavano got a deal before him for God sake. I know his back and everything else is a risk but we could bring him in and still have Hughes, Aceves, Coke and others to fill in if/when someone gets hurt. Instead of shying away from him because Burnett is already a risk I think we should TAKE ADVANTAGE of the bad market and sign this guy. Bring him in for a 2 year deal or something like that. Maybe a 3rd year option and solidify the rotation for years to come. CC, AJ, Wang, Sheets, Joba with Hughes, Aceves, Coke and others in the wings would be absolutely ridiculous. PLEASE CA$HMAN SIGN BEN SHEETS!!!

  119. gianthinker January 7th, 2009 at 1:23 am

    Pettitte is going out like Tiki Barber. Both were guys I looked up to and had a lot of respect for and they left me with a feeling of disappointment.

  120. gianthinker January 7th, 2009 at 1:24 am

    I’d still be happy to see Andy come back but if he gets one cent over that $10 MM offer I WILL BE PISSED!!!

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