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RCN Boston just converted to digital and got my first look at MLB Newtwork. Sweet little segment with Ricky Henderson about stealing third base. Now I am ready for the season.
How many mroe days to pitchers and catchers?
way to go ace!
Name him/her Seven!
??? ???!
So I can’t spell in Hebrew, but _mazel tov_!
Five Iron from Fenway:
February 13, so 30 days!
Let me be the first to say: Baby Wang is not an Ace!
Actually, a commenter from Taiwan (Iris?) broke this story right here on LoHud a few nights ago.
And finally, I think we can all agree that Seven is a better name than Soda.
Katie – Thanks. I need something to hold on to considering it is going to feel like 10 below tomorrow in Boston!
Tampa is probably pretty nice this time of year.
Yes congrats to Wang, it is a great thing as I am enjoying my first baby, have to go back to work next week and I dred it. Spring training is coming soon, 32 days for the Yanks
five iron: Cold’s gonna get worse before it gets better, brrr!
I’d thought I’d left upstate NY, but I guess not.
??, ??, ??
let me try that again: Congratulations
Rebecca, My girl friend would fight you for calling Syracuse (her home) “upstate”.
Nineteen’s a good name for the little Wangster.
From previous
“What Smith are you referring to?”
Nobody knows but he’s batting cleanup!
Tom: Anything north of Westchester is upstate for me-I’m from Jersey!
I was raised to think that anything above 14th Street was ‘upstate’.
Hideki Matsui would like to offer his rendering of the Wang’s future child.
http://tinyurl.com/7pswcx
Nice – Congrats to CMW, now if we give him the long-term deal he deserves, maybe he’ll let his son play for the Yankees in the future lol
Rebecca: Sorry for the repost, I did a quick search and didn’t see it
… We’ll see what will happen with it (The Randy Levine situation)
Haha Bronx, I was thinking of posting on that too!
bronx that drawing is too well done.
Here is a picture
http://www.health.state.ny.us/.....s/baby.gif
Congrats again Wang! (I remember someone made a comment on the blog a few days ago about this)
He should name the baby…um…Bob?
Congratulations to CMW and his wife. Good news to start the season.
Ahaha, brilliant!
Matsui had a guess what it would look like if its a girl:
http://www.kingkala.com/wp-con.....i_wife.jpg
If it’s a girl, name the baby..Babs?
Congrats to the Wangers and little Wangeroo.
From the last thread.
Any interest in this deal?
Nady and his one year contract for Randy Winn and his one year deal. Winn another switch hitter with good situational stats and speed would fit nicely in the bottom third of the order, and could possibly play CF, with swisher in RF and Damon in LF.
Would like to expand this deal to obtain Sanchez another lefty pitcher with upside-Kennedy and Veras/Ramirez. Others?
Also Braves interested in Nady. Nady for Kelly Johnson. Power for a versatile OF’er/2nd baseman. Braves have Prado to take over 2nd.
I’d MUCH rather Nady then Randy Winn … that’s just me, others may have different opinions though.
and no more trading for second baseman – we have one of the best
??? ???
mazel tov*
[insert wang joke here]
what is with all the question marks appearing.
JoeT-
Kelly Johnson could play OF,where he played before converting to 2nd base, better average and speed than Nady, and a left handed bat. Agree Cano is our 2nd baseman.
According to Taiwanese news, it’s suppose a baby boy.
But Wang is not an ace
Winn is nothing special and no way he could handle center field at Yankee Stadium.
hi what is your name?
jennifer,
its fine, or you just seeing things? lol
i really hope she lives in the US during the season.
Congratulations to CMW this is what the dl will do for you
Ed, she means the ???? that appear when one thries to write in a non-Latin based alphabet. Such as Hebrew or Korean.
Thanks Tom, at least I know I am not seeing things.
If it were me, I’d do a Nady for Kelly Joghnson trade. Johnson is 4 years younger, cost controlled, left-handed, versatile, and has the same career OPS as Nady.
MLBTV will broadcast the Caribbean WS from 2-7 February.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
Tom,
oh ok thanks for the clear up.
I don’t really know much about Kelly Johnson – thanks for the info YankeeTrader. I was thinking the Nady/Winn part of that. Based on what you and Tom said, it sounds like Nady for Johnson is a trade that would only be OKed on the Yankees side though
Before moving up here, I always thought ‘upstate’ meant anything outside of NYC that was still in the state and isn’t part of long island.
Now I’d say it’s anything above I 84. Still don’t know why people seem to be turned off from the term ‘upstate’.
Congratulations!!
Taiwanese believe new born baby will bring luck to parents. Wang should have a great 2009 season.
Why do people think it’s alright to have Kelly playing left field, but, argue that Jeter doesn’t hit enough to play a corner outfield spot?
GB, point well taken. However, Jeter is in the down slope of his career and Johnson is entering his prime.
mazel tov*
[insert wang joke here]
If it is a boy will the wangs have a bris?
S-E-V-E-N
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRUdaWZ4FN0
able: I’m not sure the Wangs are Jewish…
A little Wangster on the horizon.
Rebecca – I was just picking up on a prior post to make a joke.
same here, im from brooklyn and around here anything above the bronx is considered upstate lol
you gotta have faith,
where in brooklyn you in? I’m in Bensonhurst.
Thanks for the info on smith saucy, still sont know who smith is. I guess ill wait till hes out on the field with #21 on his back.
able: I know, I was joking in turn but apparently my jokes aren’t funny or something…
up here, anything south of poughkeepsie is considered new jersey
That’s great news.
Congrats to CMW and his wife.
Bensonhurst also, rite by the almighty Del Rio diner
you gotta have faith,
hey I always go there to eat. probably we had bump in2 each other. lol
Wang is an ace, just because we have Sabathia now doesn’t diminish winning 19 games two years straight, and being 8-2 before going on the DL this past year.
I’m proud to have grown up in upstate NY. I’m from the Finger Lakes region, off of Cayuga Lake. It’s absolutely beautiful there. Not very exciting, but a great place to grow up in. And I go back there every year (I’m in central Ohio now) because of the beauty and peace I find there. Oh, and the winery tours are okay too
??? ???? (congratulations!) to the Wang family.
haha most likely.
saucy -
To answer your question from last thread, no OBP is not the same thing as wOBA. wOBA is Weighted One Base Average. It’s explained here…..
http://www.insidethebook.com/woba.shtml
Bryan V: The best part of Upstate NY is going to Cooperstown the day after blizzard, when the Hall of Fame is almost totally empty.
Here’s an even better explanation of wOBA…
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....oy-of-woba
Rebecca-I know that the whole “upstate” is relative, so it’s not a big deal. However, it is funny since Cooperstown is over 3 hours from where I grew up. Either way though, Cooperstown is a beautiful place as well.
Rodg12-Actually just looked at wOBA at FanGraphs. Not a big fan of those metric stats, but it makes a lot of sense.
UGH enough stats!!
Runs scored
RBI’s
On Base
that is it, that’s all you need – the object is to score runs – how often do you get on base to get in position to score, how many runs do you drive in, and how many runs do you score – that’s it.
In other yankee Love News:
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/0.....e-hudsons/
Arod and kate hudson!!! – hope she doesnt drive to suicide like owen wilson….
is A-Rod the new Jeter??
Not pulling the same woman, he’s working his way there – started with Madonna, moving up to Kate Hudson, who knows who is next??
Keep me posted on A-Rods climb to the Maxim top 100 list lol.
Not that I really care about a player’s personal life, but I’d take Kate over Madonna.
I don’t care what ARod does though, as long as he continues his run of MVPs during odd years.
Anyone else hear Randy Levine on the Michael Kay show tonight?
Randy did an excellent job explaining why the subpoena against him hold absolutely no merit whatsoever.
The biggest misconception is that the Yankees are now using public money (taxpayer money) to finance the new stadium. I even though there was some truth to that myself after hearing all the stuff in the media.
However, Mr. Levine clearly explained that the Yankees have taken out bonds from the city which are financed by private investors. These bonds are to be paid back by the Yankees in full. The biggest reason for using the bonds is that they’re tax free and that get them at a much lower rate than if they went to a private bank. The Mets did the same exact thing as they so many other teams in MLB. Many other large companies such as the New York Times did the same thing to finance new buildings.
It should be noted that these are bonds. It has nothing to do with taking taxpayer money that would be otherwise used for schools, hospitals, roads etc. The Yankees are financing this stadium themselves.
The NY assemblyman going after the Yankees actually voted in favor of the Yankees plan twice. He also earmarked substantial amounts of money for various raceways in Yonkers. Going after the Yankees is his way to make a name for himself.
The Yankees are doing this the right way, yet just because there’s a bigger spotlight in NY people like to try to scrutinize them and attack everything they do.
The construction of the new stadium also created 6000 to 7000 new jobs with paid benefits.
The Yankees are nothing but first class and the best organization in sports. Don’t let all the negativity in the media which is completely devoid of facts make you think otherwise.
RBIs JoeT, seriously? Seriously? Probably the most overrated statistic out there. Has very little value in determining how good a player is as far as I am concerned.
Anybody else watching Von Wafer play out of his freaking mind against the Lakers? Unbelievable.
Arod is not saint. The guy left his wife high and dry. Starting running around with strippers, then Madonna, and now Kate Hudson?
It should be noted that Mickey Mantle probably screwed half the women in NYC during his hey-day. The difference was you don’t have nearly the media coverage you do today.
I also couldn’t care less about how Arod is as a person. I just want him to keep producing.
Congrats to the Wangs.
Maybe they’ll name their kid Vera.
Of course if it’s a boy that might be a problem.
thats the yankees view, here’s another:
http://www.villagevoice.com/20.....in-steals/
“Keep me posted on A-Rods climb to the Maxim top 100 list lol.”
Top 100? UGH enough stats!!
Runs scored
RBI’s
On Base
That is it, that’s all you need – the object is to score – how often do you get on base to get in position to score, how many runs do you drive in, and how many runs do you score – that’s it.
they say that the new stadium is exempt from property taxes which would be going to pay for schools, etc.
City and State are broke as it is…
Thanks for the links rodg12
NHYankee62
Thank you for posting that! People keep saying that tax payers are paying for the stadium. I feel like screaming!! Yes they are paying for the metro north station and roads around the stadium. The Yankees and Yankee fans won’t be the only one to use at least the roads.
The additional money the Yankees are requesting is a LOAN!!! This is why I take what the media says with a grain of salt. They slant everything to fit their agenda.
The sales taxes and payroll taxes that get collected at the new Yankee Stadium are gonna be huge.
albany guy
Can’t get more left than the Voice. ‘grain of salt’
Hmmmm…. while Beckett, Lester and Dice-K were pitching in the playoffs….. Wang was making babies.
Interesting.
whats killing the yankees here is the double dipping. they got the $900M before too many people were looking too closely at the funding plan. now they go back asking for another $300M after the financial downturn it just doesnt seem like the city should be involved in helping the yankees pay for finishing thier suites in any way. let them go borrow the money from a bank, just like a hotel would have to.
well, giving randy levines unbiased opinion alone isnt exactly fair and balanced either, is it?
At least Wang has something to show for it.
uhhh, might want to check that math there Chewie’s Gums…..
A hotel doesn’t generate the revenue the Yankees do.
rodg12 – are you serious?
RBI’s – runs batted in. the object of the game is to score runs, you score runs by driving them in – hence RBI.
yes, it may be a little overrated but the only three stats that matter are on base, runs scored, and runs batted in.
“Keep me posted on A-Rods climb to the Maxim top 100 list lol.”
At least his playing the field percentage is going up.
Apparently, Wang did perform last fall…
yankee stadium did install an ice skating rink.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Fsh7.....eeMain.jpg
Most importantly…
Does sleeping with an aging pop star have a positive or negative effect on one’s wOBA ?
another interesting read on the stadium financing from back in november:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11.....about.html
the highlight:
“Earlier this week, The New York Times reported that the state and the city would cover at least $659 million in costs related to new stadiums for the Yankees and the Mets. The teams will receive an additional $480 million in tax breaks of one kind or another.”
“Does sleeping with an aging pop star have a positive or negative effect on one’s wOBA ?”
It depends on if he has a high slugging her percentage.
Is anyone watching the 1947 world series on MLB Network. If so do you know if these announcers are realand were they actually there or was this in the timewhen they had the announcers in another place as when th ebat hits the ball it sounds like sound effects.
It is pretty cool to see the film from back then.
rebecca – great point!
Did you just see that guy pull A Manny!
I love how they have the camera in front of homeplate.
And the game’s sure moved quick back then.
On the day that media confirmed with Wang about his baby, Wang held a press conference about his personal fund to help the kinds who need help in Taiwan
name: Wangderful Kids Fund
fund link is below:
http://www.cmwangderful.com/ (It’s in Traditional Chinese)
JoeT:
I’m very serious. All a high number of RBIs tell you is that a man came up a lot with men on base. That’s it. It’s entirely dependent on the players in front of a batter. Why would you ever measure how good a player is by how good the players in front of him are??
good jobs new york says the cost to the city for the stadium is “$500 million and growing.”
and there’s this: ”
Recently, Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) and state Assemblyman Richard Brodsky (D-Westchester) held hearings. Both officials complained the city failed to provide all the information requested.
Last week, Kucinich said the city is withholding 70% of the documents his Subcommittee on Domestic Policy asked for.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_.....ewash.html
rodg12 – as i said, it’s a little overrated, but you still have to get that clutch hit
gayle
January 13th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Is anyone watching the 1947 world series on MLB Network. If so do you know if these announcers are realand were they actually there or was this in the timewhen they had the announcers in another place as when th ebat hits the ball it sounds like sound effects.
It is pretty cool to see the film from back then.
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Those are newsreels that they showed in the theatres and shipped overseas to the military occupation troops. The announcer only did the voiceovers.
CMW should name his son “Ace”, so when people say Wang is not an ace he can reply by saying, “No, but my son is.”
Let’s see people argue about that lol
RBI is a better stat for evaluating a team than a player.
Am I the only one here that remembers the war last year over the proper pluralization of RBI?
(It’s RBI, not RBIs, because it’s Run*s* batted in, not Run batted ins)
I love that soundbite of Giambi’s press conference.
“I’m not just here to be the Prom Queen again.”
What?
“All a high number of RBIs tell you is that a man came up a lot with men on base. That’s it.”
I’d like to amend that a bit.
“All a high number of RBIs tell you is that a man came up a lot with men on base.” And then got a hit!
As always Green thanks. By the end I sort of thought that was the case but being as I didnt start watching utnil it was half way over I wasnt sure.
Here’s a great example of why I think RBI (just for Rebecca
) are overrated. Jose Guillen had 97 RBI last year. Jose Reyes had 68 and Hanley Ramirez had 67. Reyes and Ramirez are two of the top players in the game. Guillen is awful. But, looking at just at RBI, you’d think Guillen was better.
here’s another explanation of the costs to the city from the stadium from today’s nyt:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01.....038;st=cse
“All a high number of RBIs tell you is that a man came up a lot with men on base.” And then got a hit!”
Or got hit, or walk, or…
““All a high number of RBIs tell you is that a man came up a lot with men on base.” And then got a hit!”
Or got hit, or walk, or…”
Hit a two hopper to the 1B, or a fly ball to the CF, or a dribbler to the SS, or a chopper to the 2B…
Jose Molina got a clutch HBP WO RBI (singular) last season, if I recall correctly.
So you want to know how Rice gets in the HOF?
Check out the faceoff blog from today and read Carp’s response to me in the comments section.
Pete, you need to teach your colleague a thing or two about the “modern day geek garbage” he refers to.
It really is sad how some of these guys simply refuse to acknowledge that there are better ways of evaluating players.
http://faceoff.lohudblogs.com/.....whos-next/
Hey Albany Guy:
As it was already mentioned earlier in this blog: you can’t get anymore left than the Village Voice. If these clowns spent half the time worrying about actually punishing criminals or keeping the city safe then maybe that garbage paper would actually be worth reading!
So the Yankees asked for more money in bonds? So what??? It’s money that they’re paying back. No taxpayer money is being used here. The article cries out to all the bleeding hearts that money was kept out of schools back in the 70′s to help the Yankees build a new scoreboard. That’s NOT the case now. The comparison is completely invalid and a shameful attempt by the paper to paint a negative picture on the Yankees.
Let me ask you is it ok for all the other teams in pro sports to use bonds but not the Yankees?? Because no one else seems to complain about it when other teams do the same exact thing. Yet, when the Yankees do it all hell breaks loose. See the double standard??
Even worse is that many other pro sports teams DO use taxpayer money to finance new stadiums or renovations like Ralph Wilson did with with my Bills in Buffalo. Yet, once again, there isn’t anywhere close to the same amount of uproar as with the Yankees using bonds.
Also, the Yankees asked for the additional $300 million or so after their initial proposal. They had to ensure they could cover additional expenses such as $60 million for making it the safest park in baseball.
The Yankees, despite all their financial might, would not have been able to build a new stadium by going to a bank instead. They have done more then you could ever imagine to improve the Bronx. They have brought in much needed revenue, build nice parks along the waterfront, and improved the Metro system (something that was needed for the past 60 years or so). They are a team that actually makes money and has put their own money back into the product by putting a great collection of talent on the field instead of pocketing the money like so many other owners do. Now the Yankees are actually paying for a new Stadium which will be a great source of pride and entertainment for all Yankee fans for many years to come.
Rodg,
Good point but both of those guys hit leadoff no? Maybe 25% of their AB’s come with absolutely no chance to get an RBI. They also hit after the pitcher and most likely the 2nd worst hitter in the lineup that day. It’s not a pure comparison.
I see your point but still, RBI’s (or RBI- Hello Rebecca) are where the money’s at.
It’s RBI, not RBIs, because it’s Run*s* batted in, not Run batted ins
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Nope.
When it’s abreviated RBI it becomes a singular unit. Thus when you are talking about multiple ones it’s RBIs.
ham fighters:
Since you like to read such a highly respected paper:
Let me know if the Slimes will be as critical of Obama’s $1 trillion + spending plan as they are of the Yankees (one of the few organizations that still actually makes money).
Nick: You remember correctly.
Ha, nice Bob! Never really cared for Carp myself..
“Or got hit, or walk, or…”
Hit a two hopper to the 1B, or a fly ball to the CF, or a dribbler to the SS, or a chopper to the 2B…”
And in almost all of those cases we would still say…
Got The Job Done.
There’s a heck of a lot of interesting “uber” stats out there and that’s all great but the team doesn’t win unless there’s men crossing the plate.
That a boy Bronx Jeers – that’s all I was trying to say before.
Anyway gotta teach in the morning, good night all – GO YANKEES!!
Bob: Nope. It’s RBI. It’s still an abbreviation.
Unless you’re saying ribbie…but if you are pronouncing the letters, you say “He has 108 RBI”, not “108 RBIs”.
touched a nerve there, eh guys. the fact is the city is spending hundreds of millions of dollars on this project.
i didn say anthing about what other teams and cities do, i was just rebutting yankees fans who say the team is paying for everything. its just not true.
ham fighters,
I suppose the city is going to pay for some of it (extra construction costs). You also have the creation of 6000 to 7000 jobs for the construction of the stadium which is a damn good thing in this economy.
However the fact that the Yankees are paying for the stadium itself by paying back bonds speaks volumes. How many other teams do such a thing???
Rebecca, would you say 10 POW or 10 POWs?
Bob: POWs, but that’s because I’m saying it like a word, not an acronym.
Is it MILF or MILFs?
(I don’t know what that means, I overheard someone say it)
Does anybody else share the disappoint I have in not signing Alex Cora? He would have been a great pick up to sure up our bench, especially that the Yankees are set to trade either Swisher or Nady or both. Just seems to me we should have at least been in on him. Maybe I missed a rumor?
Hmm, which debate do I want to jump into: who’s paying for the stadium or RBI vs RBIs?
Rebecca and Bob: not to interrupt, but it should be POW, not POWs. Just like it’s RBI, not RBIs.
JoeyA: I was thinking about Cora. That would have been a good signing. Was he too expensive? Why did the Yankees pass?
If you write/say each word, of course it’s “one hundred runs batted in.”
But it you use the acronym, it is acceptable to say “one hundred RBIs.”
Does Grammar Girl agree?
“Neil asked a related question: how to make initialisms plural when you’re pluralizing the first word of the phrase when it is written out. For example, RBI can stand for “run batted in” or “runs batted in.” Well, Neil, it’s OK to add an s to the end of RBI to make RBIs the plural of runs batted in, even though the s is added to run when you write the whole thing out. So a run batted in is an RBI, and runs batted in are RBIs.”
http://grammar.quickanddirtyti.....-cpas.aspx
RBIs comes in on the blackberry suretype (capitalization and all), so i’m going with that!
Nick in SF: Maybe it’s OK to add the s, but it’s not correct.
This debate was actually already had on this blog last year, I believe, and Pete actually chimed in. I remember it. He insisted that it is “10 RBI,” not “10 RBIs.”
BlackBerry suretype also tells me that “Rockland” needs to be “ROCKLAND.” So I don’t always trust it.
Hey! My debate is important too!
Boils down to this ladies and germs.
Do you wanna hear Frank Sinatra sing “New York, New York” after the games or do you wanna hear Liza Minelli sing it cause I wanna hear Frank’s version and in order to hear Frank, I need some dudes to get some freakin RBI’s or RBI or whatever as long as it’s not just 1 RBI!!!! as in a singular run batted in cause then we’re probably going to hear Liza and hearing Liza is not good for anybody!!!!
After all these years I thought it was ribbies ( rbi’s )…Not that I had that many……Has Andy Pettite resign yet ?????
Bob: POWs, but that’s because I’m saying it like a word, not an acronym
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ummmm, ok. lol
RBIs just sounds better anyway.
Pete is not the boss of me.
You tell ‘em, Nick in SF. No one can hold you down!
And the more time that goes by, the less I think that Andy Pettitte is coming back
Step onto the #4 train and say “How many RBI does Arod have?” and then see what happens.
Is it an ATM Machine?
Is it a PIN number?
Some phrases and words are just part of the vernacular. RBIs are here to stay.
“Step onto the #4 train and say “How many RBI does Arod have?” and then see what happens.”
Exactly. You’d probably get kicked in the head. And then there’s definitely no hearing Frank that night.
And IMO, Madonna’s no MILF but Kate Hudson is.
I don’t even want to get into what’s wrong with the majority of what people say on the #4. And I think regardless of if you ask how many RBI or RBIs A-Rod has, you’ll get negative answers, unless he goes back to 2007 style.
The fact is that we, as speakers of English, rarely speak in correct grammar. Colloquial English is not the same as grammatically correct English.
If you’re having a conversation (or writing on this blog, even), RBIs is fine. But if you want to be some kind of sports journalist, be aware that it should be RBI. Or if you need to write essays or something about POW or MILF.
Rockland
:p
I’m voting for Andrea…..Best answer….
Forget the #4 train, can we have John Rocker ask the question on the #7 train??
Where’s Dave. We need a 500 word discourse on why we need Sheets. Thereby eliminating the need for rbi(plural), as he will only need rbi(singular)
my pet peeve is people who constantly spell beverages incorrectly.
Fat free, 2%, or Whole – it’s still MILK.
The Yankees should sign Varitek. He is so great that ESPN created a stat for him: NHC (no hitters caught). He can catch whoever the 5th starter is and they won’t have to worry about getting another pitcher and be the bullpen catcher. The Yankees could also let the former Red Sox captain give out blumpkins before big games. Everyone wins.
“Is it MILF or MILFs?”
I believe it is milves…
? ???