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Yankees invite 20 to spring training

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This release from the Yankees:

YANKEES INVITE 20 PLAYERS TO 2009 SPRING TRAINING

The New York Yankees announced today that they have invited 20 non-roster players to 2009 Spring Training in Tampa, Fla. The list includes four pitchers, five catchers, seven infielders and four outfielders. The total number of players now scheduled to report is 60.

C Kyle Anson, 25, batted .241 (54-for-224) with 11 doubles, four home runs and 25 RBI in 68 games with Single-A Tampa in 2008, catching 36.0 percent of potential base stealers (27-of-75). He was originally selected by the Yankees in the 10th round of the 2005 First-Year Player Draft as a third baseman and converted to catcher prior to the 2007 season.

INF Doug Bernier, 28, made his Major League debut in 2008, appearing in two games with Colorado and going 0-for-4 in his lone start at second base on June 19 vs. Cleveland. In 110 games with Triple-A Colorado Springs in 2008, Bernier hit .255 (86-for-337) with 10 doubles, four triples, nine home runs and 42 RBI. He set career highs in triples, homers and RBI and appeared at all four infield positions as well as one game at right field. Originally signed by Colorado as a non-drafted free agent in 2002, he owns a .244 (487-for-1993) career minor league batting average in 661 games with 78 doubles, 10 triples, 19 home runs and 204 RBI.

INF Angel Berroa, 31, split the 2008 season between the Kansas City and Los Angeles-NL organizations after being acquired by the Dodgers on June 6 in exchange for minor league infielder Juan Rivera. He started at shortstop in 64 of the Dodgers’ final 101 games, batting .230 (52-for-226) with 13 doubles, one home run and 16 RBI in 84 overall games with Los Angeles. The 2003 American League “Rookie of the Year” has appeared in 711 combined Major League games with the Royals and Dodgers and owns a .260 career average (658-for-2526) with 116 doubles, 21 triples, 46 home runs and 251 RBI. He played the second-most games at shortstop (449) in the American League from 2003-05, trailing only Miguel Tejada (484).

C Kevin Cash, 31, played in a career-high 61 games in 2008 with the Boston Red Sox, batting .225 (32-for-142) with seven doubles, three home runs and 15 RBI. He made 42 starts behind the plate, including all 30 of Tim Wakefield’s outings. A native a Tampa, Fla., Cash was signed by the Toronto Blue Jays as a non-drafted free agent in 1999 and has appeared in 187 Major League games over parts of six seasons with Toronto (2002-04), Tampa Bay (2005) and Boston (2007-08).

OF Colin Curtis, 23, appeared in 132 games with the Double-A Trenton Thunder in 2008, batting .255 (126-for-495) with 20 doubles, three triples, 10 home runs and 71 RBI for the Eastern League champions. He set career highs in games, runs (68), doubles, home runs and RBI. Curtis was originally selected by the Yankees in the fourth round of the 2006 First-Year Player Draft out of Arizona State University.

INF/OF Shelley Duncan, 29, batted .175 (10-for-57) with 3 doubles, one home run and six RBI in 23 games over two stints with the Yankees in 2008, starting at first base (12 games) and right field (three games). He won the 2008 James P. Dawson Award, given to the most outstanding Yankees rookie in spring training as voted on by the New York Yankees beat writers, after batting .354 (17-for-48) with 5 doubles, three home runs and 14 RBI in 20 spring training games. The Yankees’ second-round selection in the 2001 First-Year Player Draft, Duncan made his first career Opening Day roster in 2008.

LHP Kei Igawa, 29, earned Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre’s “Pitcher of the Year” Award in 2008, appearing in 26 games (24 starts) and going 14-6 with a 3.45 ERA. The lefthander led the International League champions in wins, starts, innings pitched (156.1IP) and strikeouts (117), while ranking second in the league in wins and fourth in ERA. Originally acquired by the Yankees through the Japanese posting process in November 2007, Igawa owns a 2-4 record with a 6.66 ERA in 16 Major League games (13 starts).

OF Austin Jackson, 21, hit .285 (148-for-520) with 33 doubles, five triples, nine home runs, 69 RBI and 19 stolen bases in 131 games with Double-A Trenton in 2008, leading the team in hits and doubles while ranking second in stolen bases and RBI. He enters the 2009 season as the Yankees’ top prospect, according to Baseball America. The publication also tabbed him as the organization’s “Best Athlete” and “Best Defensive Outfielder” for the second straight season. Following the season, Jackson was named a Top Prospect in the Arizona Fall League. He was originally selected by the Yankees in the eighth round of the 2005 First-Year Player Draft.

RHP Jason Johnson, 35, has a 56-100 career Major League record with a 4.99 ERA in 255 appearances (221 starts) with Pittsburgh (1997), Tampa Bay (1998), Baltimore (1999-2003), Detroit (2004-05), Cleveland (2006), Boston (2006), Cincinnati (2006) and Los Angeles-NL (2008). He appeared in 16 games (two starts) with the Dodgers in 2008, going 1-2 with a 5.22 ERA. Originally signed by Pittsburgh as a non-drafted free agent on July 21, 1992, Johnson tied John Lackey and Jamie Moyer for the fifth-most starts (98) in the American League from 2003-05.

INF Justin Leone, 31, batted .251 (90-for-358) with 22 doubles, 17 home runs, 64 RBI and 16 stolen bases with Triple-A Fresno in 2008, appearing in games at second base, third base, shortstop and all three outfield positions. Originally selected by Seattle in the 13th round of the 1999 First-Year Player Draft, he saw his most extensive Major League action in 2004 with the Mariners, appearing in 31 games and batting .216 (22-for-102) with five doubles, six home runs and 13 RBI. He also played in one game with San Diego in 2006.

OF Todd Linden, 28, has appeared in 270 Major League games over parts of five seasons with San Francisco (2003-07) and Florida (2007), batting .231 (116-for-502) with 22 doubles, eight home runs and 36 RBI. He split the 2008 campaign between Triple-A Sacramento (Oakland) and Triple-A Buffalo (Cleveland), combining to hit .289 with 27 doubles, 17 homers and 62 RBI in 113 games. Linden, originally selected by San Francisco as a sandwich pick (41st overall) of the 2001 First-Year Player Draft, last appeared in the Majors in 2007, posting a .245 (45-for-184) average with eight doubles, one home run and 11 RBI in 115 combined games with San Francisco and Florida, establishing career highs in games, at-bats, runs (21), hits and walks (19).

RHP Mark Melancon, 23, combined at three stops (Single-A Tampa, Double-A Trenton and Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre) in 2008 to go 8-1 with a 2.27 ERA in 44 relief appearances, holding opponents to a .202 batting average (69-for-341, 6HR). Following the season, he was selected as the organization’s sixth-best prospect by Baseball America. Melancon (pronounced “Muh-LAN-son”) was originally selected by the Yankees in the ninth round of the 2006 First-Year Player Draft.

RHP Sergio Mitre, 27, did not pitch in 2008 after opening the season on the disabled list with a right elbow strain and undergoing “Tommy John” surgery on July 15. He owns a career record of 10-23 with a 5.36 ERA in 78 games (52 starts) with the Cubs (2003-05) and Marlins (2006-07). Originally selected by the Chicago Cubs in the seventh round of the 2001 First-Year Player Draft, Mitre was acquired by Florida on December 7, 2005 in a trade for OF Juan Pierre and played the 2006 season under current Yankees Manager Joe Girardi.

C Jesus Montero, 19, batted .326 (171-for-525) with 86 runs, 34 doubles, 17 home runs and 87 RBI in 132 games with Single-A Charleston, recording the most hits among any minor league catcher in 2008. He also led the Yankees organization in batting average, runs, hits and RBI last season, while leading all South Atlantic League catchers with a .993 fielding percentage (4E, 588 TC). Originally signed by the Yankees as a non-drafted free agent in October 2006, the Venezuelan native played for the World Team for the 2008 All-Star Futures Game at Yankee Stadium. He enters the 2009 season ranked by Baseball America as the Yankees’ second-best prospect and will be the youngest player in the team’s spring training camp for the second consecutive year.

INF Eduardo Nunez, 21, will be making his second straight trip to spring training camp with the Yankees after attending as a non-roster invitee in 2008. He played in 94 games with Single-A Tampa in 2008, hitting .271 (101-for-373) with six home runs, 42 RBI and a career-high 18 doubles. A native of the Dominican Republic, Nunez was originally signed by the Yankees as a non-drafted free agent in February 2004.

INF Ramiro Pena, 23, batted .266 (118-for-443) in 111 games with Double-A Trenton in 2008, collecting 20 doubles, seven triples, two home runs and 45 RBI to set career highs in nearly every offensive category. Following the season, he was tabbed by Baseball America as the “Best Defensive Infielder” in the Yankees organization and in the Eastern League. A native of Mexico, Pena played for the World Team for the 2008 All-Star Futures Game at Yankee Stadium. He was originally signed by the Yankees as a non-drafted free agent in February 2005.

C P.J. Pilittere, 27, hit .277 (101-for-364) with 15 doubles, three home runs and 48 RBI in 97 games with Double-A Trenton in 2008, ranking fifth among qualifying Eastern League catchers with a 21.3 percent caught stealing rate (17-of-80). Originally selected by the Yankees in the 13th round of the 2004 First-Year Player Draft, Pilittere will be making his third straight appearance in spring camp after receiving non-roster invitations in 2007 and ’08.

OF John Rodriguez, 30, split the 2008 season between the Tampa Bay (Triple-A Durham) and New York Mets (Triple-A New Orleans) organizations, combining to bat .276 (58-for-210) with nine doubles, 10 home runs and 32 RBI in 69 games. He saw his most extensive Major League action in 2006 with the St. Louis Cardinals, batting .301 (55-for-183) with 12 doubles, three triples, two home runs and 19 RBI in 102 games for the National League champions. He also led the club that season with 47 pinch at-bats and 11 pinch-hits. The New York native was originally signed by the Yankees as a non-drafted free agent in 1996 after attending a tryout at Yankee Stadium.

C Austin Romine, 20, was selected by the Yankees in the second round of the 2007 First-Year Player Draft out of El Toro High School in California and will be making his second consecutive appearance as a spring training non-roster invitee. He batted .300 (122-for-407) with 66 runs, 24 doubles, 10 home runs and 49 RBI in 104 games with Single-A Charleston in 2008, ranking second on the team and third among Yankees minor leaguers in batting average. Following the season, Romine was tabbed by Baseball America as the fourth-best prospect in the Yankees organization.

INF Kevin Russo, 24, batted .307 (82-for-267) with 17 doubles, two home runs and 33 RBI in 71 games with Double-A Trenton in 2008, despite missing nearly two months after fracturing his left cheekbone when he was hit by a batting practice grounder in early June. Following the season, he played for the Peoria Javelinas of the Arizona Fall League, where he led all Yankees winter leaguers with 34 hits. Drafted by the Yankees in the 20th round of the 2006 First-Year Player Draft, Russo will be making his first trip to Major League spring training camp with the Yankees in 2009.

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Keep in mind that most of these players will be in the minors come Opening Day. It speaks well to their bullpen depth that none of these guys are relievers outside of Mitre and Melancon. As a beat writer, it’ll be good to get a look at Montero again as well as Romine. With Posada sure to be brought along slowly, hopefully those guys will get to catch in some exhibition games.

This also would seem to indicate that Shelley Duncan cleared waivers and was outrighted to AAA.

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283 Responses to “Yankees invite 20 to spring training”

  1. Stacey January 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    i thought shelley was DFA?

  2. Trevor January 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    I hope Melancon makes the team out of ST. I can do without Vares or Edwar.

  3. jay destro January 14th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    DFA and no one picked him up off waivers so he was outrighted to the minors.

  4. Tom January 14th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    What does Colin Curtis project as, a 4th OFer?

  5. Drive 4-5 January 14th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    My jaw dropped when I saw Kei Igawa’s name on the list. The only purpose he’d serve is as a batting practice pitcher. Otherwise, it’s a complete waste of space and expense. As soon as he’s done throwing bp when the team breaks North, Cashman should just admit his mistake and trade Igawa for a bag of bats.

  6. Nick in SF January 14th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    “Igawa owns a 2-4 record with a 6.66 ERA in 16 Major League games…”

    I did not know that. Does he freak out animals at the petting zoo?

    Maybe they can get Igawa an inning or two sometimes to *improve* his ERA.

  7. rodg12 January 14th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    YankeeRay -

    I’ve been kicking it around and I’ve finally decided that I’m in on Manny Ramirez. I think since everybody is painting us a the “Evil Empire” and crap, we may as well say…Here’s your Evil Empire. Sign Manny, trade Matsui (eating half his salary) to Seattle for Washburn or SF for Sanchez, trade Nady to ATL for Gorkys Hernandez, Sign Alex Cora, Juan Cruz and Eric Hinske and roll with this team next year……

    Damon
    Jeter
    Manny
    ARod
    Teixera
    Posada
    Swisher
    Cano
    Gardner/Cabrera

    Molina
    Cora
    Hinske
    Gardner/Cabrera

    CC
    Wang
    AJ
    Washburn/Sanchez
    Joba

    Mo
    Cruz
    Marte
    Bruney
    Veras
    Coke
    Aceves/Giese

    I mean, why not? They got the money. May as well push the payroll to $250 or so. Leave no doubt and dominate.

  8. SP January 14th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    I’m kind of surprised INF Chris Malec didn’t get an invite after batting .295 in an all-star season with Trenton. Like Russo, he’s a fairly versatile player.

  9. ANSKY January 14th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Drive … No coincidennce there … Igawa is a batting practice pitcher whenever he’s in big league game too! :)

  10. ANSKY January 14th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    “… no SURPRISE coincidence …” (‘skyooz me)

  11. Tom January 14th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Igawa is either the Mark of the breast, or Emperor Nero, depending on which Biblical criticism one subscribes to.

  12. Karayannides January 14th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Does anyone know who is closer to the big leagues between Romine and Jesus Montero?

    When is it estimated that either be starting of backing up in the big leagues?

    Do they both project at starters?

    I have always heard that Jesus Montero will outgrow the position, but he seems to have a good idea defensively right now and maybe that can offset the maturation of his body.

    If Posada cannot handle the catching position in the in 2010, I could see him moving to LF. That is an easy move left on the defensive spectrum. Hopefully one of these prospects will be ready by then.

  13. Andrew January 14th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Only problem is Cora signed with the Mets, and the team has shown absolutely zero interest in Manny, Hinske and Cruz. Sanchez for Nady doesn’t make sense when San Francisco can just pay Manny and keep Sanchez for themselves. Seattle wanted prospects for Washburn, I don’t know why they would suddenly want an aging DH in exchange for Washburn’s services, no matter how you balance out the money. This isn’t like the NBA’s expiring contracts.

  14. YankeeRay January 14th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    rodg12
    January 14th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
    YankeeRay –
    I’ve been kicking it around and I’ve finally decided that I’m in on Manny Ramirez. I think since everybody is painting us a the “Evil Empire” and crap, we may as well say…Here’s your Evil Empire. Sign Manny, trade Matsui (eating half his salary) to Seattle for Washburn or SF for Sanchez, trade Nady to ATL for Gorkys Hernandez, Sign Alex Cora, Juan Cruz and Eric Hinske and roll with this team next year……

    Damon
    Jeter
    Manny
    ARod
    Teixera
    Posada
    Swisher
    Cano
    Gardner/Cabrera

    Molina
    Cora
    Hinske
    Gardner/Cabrera

    CC
    Wang
    AJ
    Washburn/Sanchez
    Joba

    Mo
    Cruz
    Marte
    Bruney
    Veras
    Coke
    Aceves/Giese

    I mean, why not? They got the money. May as well push the payroll to $250 or so. Leave no doubt and dominate.

    ——-

    Welcome aboard Rodg. I would still bat Tex 3rd and let Manny support Arod. After all, Manny would be on an island with no one behind him in SF or LA anyway. And in those places there may not be anyone on base. At least here there would be nowhere to put him most of the time.
    Put Posada behind him and go from there.
    The payroll doesn’t have to go to 250 but 225 at least for 1 year only. Then Pettite and Damon come off the books and we begin our youth movement. I would pay 5mm of Matsuis contract as 8mm seems to be the going rate for a DH/OF.
    I wouldn’t even want washburn back unless we couldn’t sign Pettite. Sign Manny and Pettite may pay us to play here this year.

  15. SP January 14th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Chad Jennings points out some of the surprising exclusions:

    Edwar Gonzalez
    Chris Malec
    Eric Duncan
    Alan Horne
    J.B. Cox
    George Kontos
    Kevin Whelan

    http://community.thetimes-trib.....vites.aspx

  16. JoeyA January 14th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Rodg12,
    That’s ridiculous and impossible at the same time, being that Cora was signed yesterday by the Mets. Manny will not be a Yankee. It’s between the dodgers and Giants.

    We need a #4 or #5 SP, a bench infielder that knows what side of a bat to grab, and, depending on what happen with Swisher/Nady, an OFer.

    I still don’t understand why we don’t trade both Nady/Swisher, sign Abreu to a two year deal with a 3rd year option, and get bullpen help/infielder in return.

  17. CanIGetAMooseCall January 14th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Jason Johnson — pitching depth problem solved!!

  18. KennyH123 January 14th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Montero is getting some great experience in big league ST camp, especially for a 19 year old.. its only going to help him down the road. He must be really holding his own defensively behind the plate, or the Yanks would not be keeping him there. I hope the critics are all wrong and he stays behind the dish.
    Offensively, he’s a man child… as close to an Albert Pujols clone as I’ve ever seen.

  19. Drive 4-5 January 14th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    The Yanks certainly look light on infield depth. Alex Cora is a terrific utilty player for the middle infield. He’s light years better than Angel Berroa. Unfortunately, it looks like Cora is headed to the Mets.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3832077

  20. JoeyA January 14th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Karayannides-
    Posada in LEFT FIELD!-hahahahahahahaha

    And thats not laughing at you, it’s laughing at Posada waddling to chase down fly balls.

  21. Tom January 14th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Cora to the Mets? SJ reported that about 4 hours ago:

    SJ44
    January 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
    BTW, Alex Cora is going to sign a deal with the Mets today.

    1 year, 2 million bucks.

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....ent-641483

  22. Stephen January 14th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Adam Rubin of the NYDN just mentioned the Cora/Mets signing on XM.

  23. JoeyA January 14th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    I hope Montero remains a C prospect, since we obviously are set in 1B. His SO’s are a little scary, 83 in 132 games, 525 AB’s.

  24. Karayannides January 14th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    So is there any merit to Posada in LF? If only for 2010?

    What about Jeter in CF for the final year of his contract?

    Craig Biggio transitioned well, and the position is just as high profile.

    Some people might say, “Hey, but CF is AJax’s spot”
    Well call me a player hater, but I’m not sold on Jackson yet. Its exciting to have a touted position prospect, but I think the only reason he is getting so much attention is because he is on the Yankees and they have no other position prospects. His numbers last year and in the Arizona Fall League do not scream elite prospect, so I think it is premature to say he will win the spot in the next few years.

  25. Jesse B January 14th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Karayannides, both Montero and Romine will probably start the season at single A ball. Romine has much better potential defensively as a catcher (ie. fast release time and arm strength), but is still raw in his technique, since he did not put up great defensive numbers. His hitting style is more contact with good gap power. Montero on the other hand is not predicted to be a good defensive catcher, but has a huge amount of offensive upside. He’s been compared to a Mike Piazza type of player in terms of his average, power, and catching ability. Hopefully both guys will keep improving defensively, and both are at least 2-3 years out. It’s pretty unlikely to see them ready for full time duty in ’10.

  26. JoeyA January 14th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    If Posada plays LF in 2010, they may have to consider a Left Center Right center situation, with one guy playing right behind the 2nd base bag, filling the roles of SS and 2B.

    I think there was a baseball team somewhat like the Harlem Globetrotters. They are a local, NY team called the 4 Kings or something. Only 4 guys on the team and they would beat local baseball teams.

  27. YankeeRay January 14th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    JoeyA
    January 14th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
    Rodg12,
    That’s ridiculous and impossible at the same time, being that Cora was signed yesterday by the Mets. Manny will not be a Yankee. It’s between the dodgers and Giants.

    We need a #4 or #5 SP, a bench infielder that knows what side of a bat to grab, and, depending on what happen with Swisher/Nady, an OFer.

    I still don’t understand why we don’t trade both Nady/Swisher, sign Abreu to a two year deal with a 3rd year option, and get bullpen help/infielder in return.

    ——

    Joey, you think Manny is excited about being a Giant or Dodger? And you want to trade nady for Abreu? I think we are trying to build for the future and to me Abreu is part of the past. Swisher will be in RF so what would we do with Abreu? Are you one of the swisher in CF guys?

  28. rodg12 January 14th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Dang, didn’t know Cora signed with the Mets. Fine, just go with Ransom/Berroa instead. Fine, just keep Matsui if we can’t deal him. He’ll be that bat off the bench (kinda like Straw in ’98) instead of Hinske, don’t sign him. Sign Pettitte then instead. Still trade Nady for an OF or IF prospect. We’ve got

    Damon
    Jeter
    Manny
    ARod
    Teixera
    Posada
    Swisher
    Cano
    Gardner/Cabrera

    Molina
    Ransom/Berroa
    Matsui
    Gardner/Cabrera

    CC
    Wang
    AJ
    Pettitte
    Joba

    Mo
    Cruz
    Marte
    Bruney
    Veras
    Coke
    Aceves/Giese

    I also know it’s pretty ridiculous and almost impossible. But how fun would that team be to watch, huh? Man, that would be awesome. Manny alone would increase the fun factor by himself. Gammons might faint on live TV talking about that team. One can dream, can’t he?

  29. Karayannides January 14th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Karayannides-
    Posada in LEFT FIELD!-hahahahahahahaha

    And thats not laughing at you, it’s laughing at Posada waddling to chase down fly balls.

    ——————————————
    Hey man, posada would field and waddle like a peurto rican Reuben Sierra, that defense is passable : )

  30. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    “Craig Biggio transitioned well, and the position is just as high profile.”

    hmm no, Biggio finished his career playing 2B. the only reason Biggio played in the OF before is because he could run, Posada can’t.

  31. ANSKY January 14th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    “… who is closer to the big leagues between Romine and Jesus Montero?”

    I believe we’ll have that answer sometime in March.

  32. RhapsodyInBlue January 14th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    It is going to be so much fun following these kids this season almost as much fun as following the team in the Bronx.

  33. YankeeRay January 14th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    JoeyA
    January 14th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
    If Posada plays LF in 2010, they may have to consider a Left Center Right center situation, with one guy playing right behind the 2nd base bag, filling the roles of SS and 2B.

    I think there was a baseball team somewhat like the Harlem Globetrotters. They are a local, NY team called the 4 Kings or something. Only 4 guys on the team and they would beat local baseball teams.

    —-

    Its called King and his court, Eddie Feigner.

    With Posada in LF we would have to bat 10 and play with 4 outfielders.

  34. SJ44 January 14th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    I don’t see how the guys on Jennings list are surprise non-invites to ST.

    Gonzalez, Duncan and Malec are organizational filler and nothing more.

    Horne and Whelan are coming off injuries. As is Cox, who was also ineffective for most of the second half of last season.

    Kontos needs one more good season before he gets a ST invite.

    You always bring in a lot of catchers so the pitchers can get their work and you don’t burn out your regular catchers. Especially important since Posada is still rehabbing.

    I could see Cox being a mild surprise non-invite. The rest of the guys on that list? Not surprising at all they didn’t get a ST invite.

  35. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Melancon’s probably not making the team straight out of Spring Training.

    Pete, you forgot to mention, Mitre will be serving a 50 game PED suspension.

  36. rodg12 January 14th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    On hitting ability alone, I’d put Montero ahead of Romine as far as reaching the Yanks quicker. Even though I’m still unconvinced that Montero can remain at C, I think his bat gets him to the bigs quicker than Romine. Maybe a C/DH platoon situation with Posada in 2011. Cup of coffee next year.

  37. gianthinker January 14th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Sidney Ponson and Freddie Garcia added to this list.

  38. Jesse B January 14th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Joey A, I wouldn’t read too much into Montero’s strikeouts. He’s young and is still learning to balance his patience. It’s something to work on, but certainly not anything unusual at this stage of development. He’s definitely not known as a free swinger.

  39. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    SP and SJ: How the might have fallen-wasn’t it a few years ago that Eric Duncan was our top prospect?

  40. rodg12 January 14th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    Aye, Posada in LF????? Where did you come up with that??

  41. Karayannides January 14th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    So do most people see Posada at DH and Jeter at SS in 2010 (the final year of their contrats)

    Jeter will be 35 at the beginning of 2010, other than Omar Visquel, are there any other starting shortstops who are at that age or older at the moment?

  42. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    “Mitre will be serving a 50 game PED suspension.”

    Rebecca,

    geesh im talking to you on 2 different sites. lol, Mitre will begin serving that 50 game suspension once the season begins which it won’t matter to him since he’s rehabbing (sp?). lol

  43. Nick in SF January 14th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    “Igawa is either the Mark of the breast, or Emperor Nero…”

    Mark of the breast? Is Igawa an invitee at Lace & Stiletto as well?

    I think Ian Kennedy is more the Emperor Nero type. “I think things went pretty well. Sure, Rome is burning, but I made a lot of progress in my fiddling today. I woke up today and told my wife, I just have a feeling I’m going to make these Christians look stupid.”

  44. AROD fan January 14th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    WOWIE! What a post!! Thanks for the info!

  45. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    “How the might have fallen-wasn’t it a few years ago that Eric Duncan was our top prospect?”

    Probably we should had dealt him for Mark Kotsay a few years ago, and let Duncan be Oakland’s problem. :?

  46. Mark (Brett is back) January 14th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    So if Cashman trades Nady or Swisher the bench looks like:

    Gardner/Melky whoever is not playing that night
    Molina
    winner of Ransom/Berroa battle to the death in spring training.

    I think the Yanks need to put 1 decent bat for the bench if they trade either Nady or Swish.

  47. John in MD January 14th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Hey SJ,

    I was wondering what you thought of the two Cubans that just defected to the US. I saw their stats from the first WBC but obviously thats not a good indicator. Do you have any info on these two guys? Are they worth looking at?

  48. AROD fan January 14th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Sidney Ponson and Freddie Garcia added to this list.

    Great ideas!!

  49. BBB January 14th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    To me Cox’s non-invite is a pretty big surprise. I’d thought they were close to calling him up to the Bronx at some points last season. Does anyone know anything that may have changed the Yankees’ minds on him, was he playing winter ball and struggled or something?

    I’m bummed that he isn’t going to get a chance to make the team. He has been my sentimental favorite prospect since before the farm system was good. I love how full of piss and vinegar he seems. Hopefully he will get his chance someday and this isnt a sign that the Yankees are giving up on him.

  50. BBB January 14th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Didn’t Tyler Clippard used to be our top pitching prospect?

    We’ve come a long way, baby!

  51. Al from BK January 14th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    “RHP Mark Melancon, 23, combined at three stops (Single-A Tampa, Double-A Trenton and Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre) in 2008 to go 8-1 with a 2.27 ERA in 44 relief appearances, holding opponents to a .202 batting average (69-for-341, 6HR). Following the season, he was selected as the organization’s sixth-best prospect by Baseball America. Melancon (pronounced “Muh-LAN-son”) was originally selected by the Yankees in the ninth round of the 2006 First-Year Player Draft.”

    Thats all I needed to hear. He makes the team out of ST.

  52. rodg12 January 14th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Karayannides -

    Go back to the last couple threads to read all our thoughts on Jeter’s ability to stay at SS. It was discussed in length there. Basically, the consensus was that he’ll stay at SS until the end of his current contract at the least – barring an unforseen major drop in skills. I (and CB too I believe, gotta give him his props) posed JJ Hardy as an option to replace Jeter after his contract expires because he will also be a Free Agent after that year as well. At which point, the most likely destination for Jeter would be LF. Posada it would seem would be relegated to either C or DH. Don’t really see any other options besides that since Tex is now manning 1B.

  53. SP January 14th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Rebecca,

    Yes..sad, but true

    SJ44,

    Unfortunately, I think a lot of guys tend to get overlooked.

    Some of the older guys on the invite list were probably considered “organizational fillers” at some point…and look at the 40-man…guys like Edwar Ramirez and Dan Giese come to mind. Ramirez was from the independent leagues, and Giese was considered “organizational filler” for almost 9 years before someone gave him a chance. He turned out to be a decent option. I think players should get a look if their perfomance warrants it, regardless of top prospect status.

    Gonzalez and Malec both hit close to .300 in Trenton last year, and Gonzalez had 14 hr. Malec has done nothing but hit since he was drafted. Don’t guys like this deserve a look?

  54. Karayannides January 14th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    SP and SJ: How the might have fallen-wasn’t it a few years ago that Eric Duncan was our top prospect?

    —————————–

    Yeah… remember Drew Henson?

    Is he still playing football?

  55. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Ed: I know, but fifty games is still fifty games, regardless of when it’s served!

    Karayannides: Yeah.., I remember Henson..

  56. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Al,

    remember that dude Scott Patterson last year in ST, he was 10000% lights out, and didn’t allow a run at all during camp. We all knew for sure he would made the cut but didn’t, because of that AL bust Hawkins. Let’s hope history won’t repeat itself this year. :(

  57. Moneyball January 14th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Let Posada pitch. It would probably be easier on the eyes watching that over the Igawa Spectacle.

  58. BBB January 14th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Didnt Henson make a start or 2 for the Lions this year? How bout that, he did find his place in the history books after all!

  59. rodg12 January 14th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Henson was on the Lions at the end of the season. Technically still playing, but does it really count if you’re signed by an 0-16 at the end of the year after 2 guys got injured to be the 3rd QB???

  60. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Karayannides,

    On August 22, 2008, Henson was signed by the Detroit Lions. He was assigned No. 12. He was waived during final cuts on August 30 but was re-signed to the team’s practice squad a day later.

    Henson was promoted to the active roster on October 12 when quarterback Jon Kitna was declared out for the team’s Week 5 contest with an injury. The team released fullback Moran Norris to make room for Henson on the active roster.

    Shortly after the signing of quarterback Daunte Culpepper, Henson was waived by the Lions on November 12 when the team claimed wide receiver Adam Jennings off waivers from the Atlanta Falcons. Henson was re-signed to the team’s practice squad two days later. On November 24, Henson was signed to a two year contract off the practice squad to become number 2 on the depth chart behind Daunte Culpepper. He is expected to compete for a roster spot for the 2009 season as well. Culpepper was pulled in the 4th quarter in the lions thanksgiving game. Henson was 1 for 2, and fumbled on back to back plays. Culpepper also came out of a subsequent game for the final play of the fourth quarter where Henson stepped in and was sacked.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Henson

    —————-

    ok, so whoever is a Lions fan…who saw Henson played before the season ended?

  61. michelle b. (x is the new black) January 14th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    i still cannot believe that abreu is sitting out there. The man may not play defense well, but he certainly can handle the bat and his price is dropping as the days go by.

    I think swisher is the gonner – as he was brought in as a 1st baseman, now we have a real one. There were tons of teams that wanted him before he was signed by the yankess. SO hopefully cash works his magic and sends him to SF or was.

    I think we should try to extend nady(i know bor(ass)wont want that), it would be much easier to trade him with a current contract as opposed to an expiring one.

  62. Al from BK January 14th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Ed- Yes I remember. However Melancon will show everybody what the buzz is about. Young guy with great stuff and even better make-up.

  63. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    rodg: You’d have to ask Henson.

  64. BBB January 14th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Whatever happened to Scott Patterson, anyway? I don’t believe he is with the Yankees any longer, but did he become a FA or did we lose him in the Rule 5 or something?

  65. BBB January 14th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    rodg: Hey, at least he can say he was behind Daunte Culpepper on the depth chart. Thats a lot better than any claim Eric Duncan or John Ford Griffin has ever been able to make!

  66. SP January 14th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Patterson was DFA and picked up by the Padres…he spent the final 3 weeks of the season with the big team and will go to camp with them this spring

  67. Guiseppe Franco January 14th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Didnt Henson make a start or 2 for the Lions this year? How bout that, he did find his place in the history books after all!

    ————

    It’s a damn shame what happened to Henson’s career – but he was just too enticed by Stenbrenner’s money and chose baseball over football.

    I’ve been a die hard Michigan fan for many years. Henson was pushing Tom Brady for playing time as a freshman. That’s how good a quarterback Henson was at that time.

    I know he chose the Yanks – but there was no question the day he signed that contract that he chose the wrong sport because he could have been a very, very good NFL quarterback.

    Sigh.

  68. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    “as he was brought in as a 1st baseman, now we have a real one. ”

    michelle,

    Swisher is a -real- 1B but could play the OF as well. but really, 1B is his natural position and he’s most comfortable there. CF is really his weak position.

  69. Roger C. January 14th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    I love how Kei Iwagawa EARNED the Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre’s “Pitcher of the Year” Award in 2008, how awesome is that? Totally worth the investment if you ask me, who agrees?

  70. Andrew January 14th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Todd Linden. Nice pick up by the Yankees. At one time was a top prospect and 1st round draft pick.

  71. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    I really wish they had brought Angelini, Fortenberry and Laird into camp and give them some special instruction and work on their defense. By mid summer of 2010, Fortenberry could be a huge help filling the fourth outfield spot and give them some left handed power and speed on the bases.

  72. Karayannides January 14th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    So Jon Heyman is reporting that the Yankees have been trying to sign Freddy Garcia and is will make a choice soon between the Yankees, Mets, Rangers, and White Sox. Might be old news, but I’ll throw it out there.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....cia-m.html

  73. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    I believe Patterson went to the Padres.

  74. ROndell January 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Who is the odds on favorite to walk away with the prestigious 2008 James P. Dawson Award, which as we all know is given to the most outstanding Yankees rookie in spring training as voted on by the New York Yankees beat writers, this season? Any ideas?

  75. darkmoonfire January 14th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    I guess they could be showcasing Igawa in the vain hope that he might be tradable.

    Hopefully…

  76. josh January 14th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Sign Manny, 3,4,5 would be Teix, Arod and Manny, how dominant would that be

  77. Bubba C January 14th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Josh why stop there? Lets get my boy Barry Bonds on board to DH. Then we can totally rule the universe and make the world a better place to live again. I think thats the way to go.

  78. Fran January 14th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    Michelle,

    I think it might be easier for the Yanks to trade Nady since it is the last year of his contract. Swisher has 3 years left at approximately $20 million. Teams might not want to pick that up.

  79. AROD fan January 14th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    josh/Bubba C

    I totally agree! If we signed Manny and Bonds we WOULD TOTALLY RULE THE UNIVERSE AND MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AGAIN!! Please Cash, nothing would get us ready for a new stadium better than a Bonds and Manny press conference.

  80. Hugo Simone January 14th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    In all honesty, I think the Yanks should just start signing elite athletes from other sports and industries to add to the lineup. Leading off is Adrian Peterson, then followed by Tiger Woods, Tex, A-Rod, Roger Federer, Clay Aiken, Jeter, Barack Obama, with Melky in the 9 spot.

    Thoughts?

  81. Karayannides January 14th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    i still cannot believe that abreu is sitting out there. The man may not play defense well, but he certainly can handle the bat and his price is dropping as the days go by.

    I think swisher is the gonner – as he was brought in as a 1st baseman, now we have a real one. There were tons of teams that wanted him before he was signed by the yankess. SO hopefully cash works his magic and sends him to SF or was.

    I think we should try to extend nady(i know bor(ass)wont want that), it would be much easier to trade him with a current contract as opposed to an expiring one.

    —————————————

    His defense is so bad, it is not worth his contribution on offense.

    According to Fangraphs, Abreu added 21.5 runs above replacement through his offense, but gave up 25.2 runs more than replacement with his defense.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2008/.....buck-6440/

    Both his offense and defense will only diminsh with age and we already have too many OFs

  82. Phil January 14th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    I’m a little surprised Vazquez wasn’t invited. And I still think Edwar Gonzalez has an outside chance of being a big league OF. Likewise, Malec can probably make it as a back up somewhere.

  83. Mike January 14th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    I know it sounds crazy, but it looks like kei igawa has some pretty good triple a numbers. could he be a number 5 starter/long man?

  84. Bubba C January 14th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    oh please Hugo stop the nonsense. As if the Bombers need to go anywhere other than their own clubhouse to find the most elite players in the world

  85. rodg12 January 14th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Hugo -

    You had me until Clay Aiken.

  86. BBB January 14th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    “In all honesty, I think the Yanks should just start signing elite athletes from other sports and industries to add to the lineup. Leading off is Adrian Peterson, then followed by Tiger Woods, Tex, A-Rod, Roger Federer, Clay Aiken, Jeter, Barack Obama, with Melky in the 9 spot.

    Thoughts?”

    Needs more Dwyane Wade

  87. Karayannides January 14th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    micheal phelps?

  88. rodg12 January 14th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Mike -
    Igawa’s success at AAA absolutely astounds me. Either his stuff greatly diminishes when he joins the big club or AAA hitters are worse than I thought. Way too often in the bigs he’d sit up in the zone with a low 90s fastball with little command in the zone. Can’t believe AAA hitters don’t tee off on that as well. Maybe they can’t recognize his offspeed stuff like the guys in the bigs can??

  89. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Hugo: Well done.

  90. YankeeRay January 14th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    AROD fan
    January 14th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
    josh/Bubba C

    I totally agree! If we signed Manny and Bonds we WOULD TOTALLY RULE THE UNIVERSE AND MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AGAIN!! Please Cash, nothing would get us ready for a new stadium better than a Bonds and Manny press conference.

    ——

    So I have 2 more on my Manny train along with Tim and Rodg.
    While I wouldn’t advocate Bonds for many reasons, but the most important one is that Manny would be the DH.
    Lets keep the train roillin and maybe Cash will hear us and do the deal.

  91. Laura January 14th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    I was surprised that STL didn’t take Shelley. Maybe his father didn’t have enough pull.

  92. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    I’d like to see what the Cubs would take for Rich Hill in a trade. He’s now out of options. Now, that’s a ptcher worth taking a flyer on.

  93. ham fighters January 14th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    i wonder how maria sharipova would look in pinstripes…..

  94. BBB January 14th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    Justin Tuck for 4th OF!

  95. ham fighters January 14th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    the cards might like shelley but they arent gonna give up anything to get him, especially since he’s the most likely to be released to make room for the next addition to the 40.

  96. YankeeRay January 14th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    ham fighters
    January 14th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
    i wonder how maria sharipova would look in pinstripes…..

    ——

    Best post of the day award

  97. Nick in SF January 14th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    Clay Aiken is not an Ace.

  98. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    Peyton Manning should be there rather than Peterson. He did win the mvp and could be our fifth starter.

  99. S.A.-Brian "The Ninja" Cashman: Showing free agents lots of love January 14th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    Igawa :evil:

  100. ham fighters January 14th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    …just the pinstripes….

  101. Karayannides January 14th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    I’d like to see what the Cubs would take for Rich Hill in a trade. He’s now out of options. Now, that’s a ptcher worth taking a flyer on.

    ——————

    That’s a good idea Green Beret. Here’s to hopeing, but I don’t think the Cubs are ready to give up on him yet. Anyway who do they have for a fifth starter?

    Zambrano, Harden, Dempster, Lily, ?

  102. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    “i wonder how maria sharipova would look in pinstripes…..”

    Kornikova would look a even better. Are we judging by titles or hype?

  103. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    “I’d like to see what the Cubs would take for Rich Hill in a trade. He’s now out of options. Now, that’s a ptcher worth taking a flyer on.”

    GB,

    probably a second tier prospect?

  104. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    “Zambrano, Harden, Dempster, Lily, ?”

    Sean Marshall.

  105. RER - 98 January 14th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    It should come as no surprise if Mark Melancon impresses enough to cause Cashman to make a late March deal involving Edwar Ramirez or Jose Veras.
    Cody Ransom and Angel Berroa will battle it out for the utility infielder job.

  106. YankeeRay January 14th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Yankee 25 man roster and line up

    Damon LF
    Jeter SS
    Tex 1B
    Arod 3B
    Manny DH
    Posada C
    Cano 2B
    Swisher RF
    Melky CF

    CC, AJ, CMW, Pettite, Joba
    Mo,Marte,Coke,Bruney,Veras,Ramirez,Aceves Long Relief spot start
    Bench – Molina, Berroa, Gardner, someone who can play IF/OF

    Would you go to war with that team right now?

  107. Karayannides January 14th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Oh yeah… but Sean Marshall is not good enough to be handed a rotation spot, specially for the Cubs. I think they would need a good prospect for Hill.

  108. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    “I’d like to see what the Cubs would take for Rich Hill in a trade.”

    GB,
    Maybe we can get the pitcher that should have signed here in the first place. Lilly. I believe he has one more year left on his contract.

  109. Buddy Biancalana January 14th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    RIP Mr. Roarke AKA Ricardo Montalban

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....#038;tsp=1

  110. Yankee Trader January 14th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    GB7-
    “I’d like to see what the Cubs would take for Rich Hill in a trade. He’s now out of options. Now, that’s a pitcher worth taking a flyer on.”

    2nd that motion! 28 yo 6’5″ lefty with power. Unfortunately, and hopefully it was just a mechanical flaw, but he lost the ability to throw strikes.

  111. no.27 January 14th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    I don’t see why people would keep Nady over Swisher.

    Swisher is 2 full years younger than Nady. He is a better defender in the outfield and can also play a solid first base. Last year was the first time that Nady posted a higher OPS than Swisher over the last 4 years, but it was more than a 100 points higher than his next best season and over 125 points higher than his career average. Swisher also has more RBIs each year of his career except for last year when he was batting leadoff for the White Sox. Swisher is also signed to a reasonable 3 year contract while Nady is going to be looking for a big new contract next year.

    The only reason I can see trading Swisher over Nady is if Swisher gets the Yankees significantly more.

  112. YankeeRay January 14th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    We will not trade Swisher. He will be a stud on our team this year.

  113. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    Ed – American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!!
    January 14th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
    “Zambrano, Harden, Dempster, Lily, ?”

    Sean Marshall.

    ————————————————————

    Only a floating rumor that they are interested in Randy Wolf. I stil think they’ll get Peavy, though.

  114. eVizions January 14th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    You don’t sell low on Swisher, so if you are going to deal him, you wait until mid-season or after the season, once he’s had a chance to (hopefully) rebound from 08 and increase his value.

    Nady, on the other hand, you would be selling high at this point. He’s coming off a great year, he’s reasonably priced, is only a one year commitment and will likely be a type A free agent at the end of the year.

    I’d like to keep both, but if we are going to trade one, trade Nady.

  115. Yankee Trader January 14th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    YankeeRay
    January 14th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
    Yankee 25 man roster and line up

    Damon LF
    Jeter SS
    Tex 1B
    Arod 3B
    Manny DH
    Posada C
    Cano 2B
    Swisher RF
    Melky CF

    CC, AJ, CMW, Pettite, Joba
    Mo,Marte,Coke,Bruney,Veras,Ramirez,Aceves Long Relief spot start
    Bench – Molina, Berroa, Gardner, someone who can play IF/OF

    “Would you go to war with that team right now?”

    Let’s see that’s 25M x 1.4 for the luxury tax for “please, media leave me alone” Manny.

    That’s eating at least 1/2 of his 13M salary, and coercing Matsui to drop his full NTC.

    Where did you trade Nady and for whom?

    Plus did we sign Pettitte for 10M, or was it 12-13M x 1.4 for the luxury tax.

    Discounting Nady’s contract, we just added about 37M + cost of eating Matsui’s contract.

    Is this your Fantasy league team???

  116. BBB January 14th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    Though I do like the Rich Hill idea, if the Cubs are really going to get Peavy, then we might as well go for Lilly. They could probably use a few prospects to restock the system after all the talent theyll have to pay out to get Peavy. With only one more year on Lilly’s contract, hopefully it would not take much more than that. Maybe throw in Edwar or something. And Lilly would perfectly fill the role that we wanted Pettitte to fill.

  117. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Peavey IIRC has a full NTC though, he’d have to approve a deal before going anywhere.

  118. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    BBB,
    Thats what i was trying to say in lesser words. Lilly would be a good 4. Plus he would be coming back to where it all started for him.

  119. eVizions January 14th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    I’m kind of bummed that Justin Christian signed with Baltimore

  120. Mr. Scott January 14th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    “BBB January 14th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    To me Cox’s non-invite is a pretty big surprise. I’d thought they were close to calling him up to the Bronx at some points last season. Does anyone know anything that may have changed the Yankees’ minds on him, was he playing winter ball and struggled or something?

    I’m bummed that he isn’t going to get a chance to make the team. He has been my sentimental favorite prospect since before the farm system was good. I love how full of piss and vinegar he seems. Hopefully he will get his chance someday and this isnt a sign that the Yankees are giving up on him.”
    ___________________________________________________________

    He got knocked around pretty bad at the end of the season then got hurt. I’m keeping my fingers crossed he has a break out year this year & can be brought up September.

  121. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    Yankee Trader
    January 14th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
    GB7-
    “I’d like to see what the Cubs would take for Rich Hill in a trade. He’s now out of options. Now, that’s a pitcher worth taking a flyer on.”

    2nd that motion! 28 yo 6’5” lefty with power. Unfortunately, and hopefully it was just a mechanical flaw, but he lost the ability to throw strikes.

    ————————————————————

    Not sure what it is, but, he’s healthy. If it’s mechanical, Contreras should be able to fix it. I’m sure that they’d like a middle infeld type, but, maybe they’d settle for Veras or Ramirez, Cabrera and cash for Hill and Fontenot or Therio.

  122. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    Plan b.
    Matsui and his ocntract to Seattle for Washburn and his contract. Keeping Nady and Swisher. This would give us more flexability in the outfield.

  123. Sean Serritella January 14th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    I liked Christian as well. I loved his speed.

  124. Nick in SF January 14th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    I think the luxury tax is just $ x .4, not $ x 1.4.

    That is, an extra 40 cents on the dollar, not an extra buck-forty on the dollar.

  125. JoeyA January 14th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    One thing people have yet to argue about on here, which is surprising to me, is whether one would prefer Burnetts contract or Lowe’s contract?

    I would much rather have Lowe for 4/60 than Burnett at 5/82.5

  126. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Burnett’s a better pitcher than Lowe, so it doesn’t really bother me.

  127. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    “I would much rather have Lowe for 4/60 than Burnett at 5/82.5″

    Lowe is 4 years older. Doesnt have Ace like stuff. Played in the weekest division. Would get lit up in the a.l. east.
    Id take my chances on the younger more dominating stuff of Burnett.

  128. Yankeegirl49 January 14th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Igawa is the poster child for a “quadruple A” pitcher. Too good for AAA and not good enough for the majors. He needs to go back to Japan, because that is what Japanese baseball is.. AAAA. I do not want to see him anywhere near the mound for the Yanks.

  129. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Not likely that they’d move Lily if they got Peavy. They’d be trying to go for the whole show.

  130. Buddy Biancalana January 14th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Burnett will throw another no hitter this year, bank on it.

  131. BroNeill January 14th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    “LHP Kei Igawa, 29, earned Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre’s “Pitcher of the Year” Award in 2008, appearing in 26 games (24 starts) and going 14-6 with a 3.45 ERA. The lefthander led the International League champions in wins, starts, innings pitched (156.1IP) and strikeouts (117), while ranking second in the league in wins and fourth in ERA. Originally acquired by the Yankees through the Japanese posting process in November 2007, Igawa owns a 2-4 record with a 6.66 ERA in 16 Major League games (13 starts).

    Really too bad there isn’t AAAA.

  132. gianthinker January 14th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Burnett is a much better pitcher than Lowe. Lowe as a #1 is a joke. He really hurt the Mets though. I hope they re-sign Perez so Sheets is still available for the Yanks.

  133. BroNeill January 14th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    Lowe was smart to stay in the NL.

  134. saucY January 14th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    can we trade igawa back to japan for a backup infielder? didn’t rasner get traded to japan? why not iggy?

  135. Kevin Page January 14th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Mitre had TJ surgery in July and will already be throwing a baseball? Thought it was 9-10 months before you could do that.

    And 18 months before you could expect them back to full strength.

  136. no.27 January 14th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    Burnett is going to be 36 when his contract is over, while Lowe is going to be 40. Burnett is obviously more injury prone, but he’s proven that he can pitch against AL East lineups. Lowe has done well in the weak hitting NL West, but the last time he was in the AL, he was terrible. I think Lowe’s age and pitching against really weak lineups in the NL West is just as much of a risk as Burnett ending up on the DL.

    The other factor is that if the Yankees let Burnett go to Atlanta, there’s a good chance they would have ended up giving Lowe a bigger deal than the one he signed. This isn’t because Cashman overpays players, but because CC and Wang would be the only 2 guys on the staff that can throw 200 innings.

  137. Jones January 14th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    played high school baseball with justin leone at bonanza high school in las vegas. he’s a good dude. never thought he would have made it this far back then. he worked his ass off to get where he’s at. here’s wishing him the best in spring training!

  138. PAT M January 14th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Here on the West Coast MLB is showing the 96 Series vs. Atlanta…..Get em on, get em over , get em in…..Exciting series, the rebirth…..

  139. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Kevin Page: You shouldn’t get your medical guidelines from Carl Pavano…

  140. kill.schill(ing) January 14th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    I’m eager to see The Beast.

  141. Ariel January 14th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    Yankee Ray,

    I’ve been on the “Manny train” since day one. You can punch my ticket.

  142. RayVTNC January 14th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Ariel & Yankee Ray

    Let’s get Manny Now!! LOL! I would literally drool watching his first AB versus Boston!

  143. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Thank God, signing Manny Ramirez is just a sad fantasy….more like a nightmare. That is a disaster waiting to happen. Thank God, there’s no room for him.

  144. Betsy January 14th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Trish, I’m going to watch the 9/11 special over the weekend – I may skip the game 7 recap, though. That’s too painful, esp. as Mo is my favorite player.

    MLB network is great and their new shows are fantastic – Prime 9, Seasons (tonight focuses on 1986). I absolutely love being able to watch archival footage of historic WS – I love baseball, love history and love baseball history. I’m addicted, period.

    I’m currently on the 3rd inning of Ken Burns’ Basball – I just bought the DVD. Every inning thus far has been incredibly interesting. I’m not sure I have a favorite – though I really loved the profiles of Cobbb, Mathewson, Johnson, etc….in the 2nd inning. In fact, I’m reading a biography of Mathewson now. The 3rd inning was truly outstanding – now that I think about it, it might be my favorite thus far. I’m not sure – I feel bad about picking any “inning” as my favorite.

  145. no.27 January 14th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    “Let’s get Manny Now!! LOL! I would literally drool watching his first AB versus Boston!”

    What would you do if Manny was unhappy with the Yankees and left his bat on his shoulder for 3 straight strikes from Paplebon in a close game?

  146. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    “I’m eager to see The Beast.”

    Is that the movie with Afgans fighting the Russians? Good movie.

  147. Betsy January 14th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3831930

    Does this link work now?

    By the way, Verducci on the Hot Stove show just said that Yankees/Cameron talk has really died down.

    I don’t get what the Yankees are doing here. Does Cashman actually think that Melky/Gardner are going to be good enough? Is he THAT impressed with Melky in winter ball? That’s pathetic. I’m not exactly thrilled with the bench, either, specifically the backup infielders. I love Cash and he’s done a superb job this off-season, but it almost seems like he thinks his job is done.

  148. no.27 January 14th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Jim Rice just said Fenway hurt him more than it helped him. He was on the Sox his whole career and had a .789 OPS away from Boston. His home OPS is 131 points higher. Could he really believe this?

  149. you gotta have faith (we are called the evil empire for a reason :) ) January 14th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Betsy,

    but trading for Cameron?? i dont see the interest in him. but i agree our bench is looking pretty shady for the INF, i also think we need a #4 starter *cough*andy pettite*cough* then we will be set :)

  150. Celerino Sanchez January 14th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    None of these invite guys will ever be anything other than bench or role players. When the Yankees need somebody they’ll go out and sign a veteran free agent. Why bother following these minor league guys so closely? None will be impact players here, including Ajax.

  151. JoeyA January 14th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    For all the Manny getters, you all propose a deal closer to what the Yankees would want, correct? 2 Yr/40M Cause God knows the Yankees arent giving him 3/75.

    So, you have a Manny playing with a contract, HE FEELS, is lower than what he’s worth.
    Do you really believe he will be all he was in L.A. and more? We all know what he’s capable of with motivation, but what most fail to realize is any decision the Yankees brass makes that is for the best of the team and Manny doesn’t agree, he will let us know it. The guy will only play under his terms.

    Yea, sure he will be great against Boston, IF there is nothing going on between us and him. what about the other 143 games against other opponents?

  152. JoeyA January 14th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Does anybody agree the Yankees inviting 5 catchers throws in red flags regarding Posada. they clearly aren’t very optimistic he will perform up to par defensively.

  153. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Celerino Sanchez
    January 14th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
    None of these invite guys will ever be anything other than bench or role players. When the Yankees need somebody they’ll go out and sign a veteran free agent. Why bother following these minor league guys so closely? None will be impact players here, including Ajax.

    ————————————————————

    Who are you? Tom Greenwade? Elmer Fudd? Bozo The Clown?

  154. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    “Jim Rice just said Fenway hurt him more than it helped him. He was on the Sox his whole career and had a .789 OPS away from Boston. His home OPS is 131 points higher. Could he really believe this?”

    People will believe anything if it suits their purposes.

  155. Fran January 14th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    I agree with Betsy and others that the bench is pretty weak. Miguel Cairo is a FA. Maybe the Yanks can bring him back for 1 year as a back-up infielder. He has a good glove and can play all of the infield positions.

  156. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    JoeyA
    January 14th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
    Does anybody agree the Yankees inviting 5 catchers throws in red flags regarding Posada. they clearly aren’t very optimistic he will perform up to par defensively.

    ————————————————————

    The extra catchers are there to catch the 25-30 pitchers that are always in camp..just like last year.

  157. Sign Andruw Jones January 14th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    We need to sign a jones now that he has been released from LA… he would be a perfect fit as a CF / 4th OF.

  158. David (In Seattle) January 14th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    “Does anybody agree the Yankees inviting 5 catchers throws in red flags regarding Posada. they clearly aren’t very optimistic he will perform up to par defensively.”

    No. Teams usually have extra catchers in spring training to catch all the pitchers, as well as get a look at some of the prospects.

  159. PAT M January 14th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Greenwade…Mantle, Murcer Catfish Hunter ( ? )all signed by him ,,,,I’m I right on this GB7 ????

  160. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    “Who are you? Tom Greenwade? Elmer Fudd? Bozo The Clown?”

    GB7,
    O.k. i know Elmer and Bozo, but who the hell is Tom Greenwade? You never fail to remind me that your prehistoric.

  161. DT January 14th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Manny needs to go a team that uses incentive clauses. (The Yanks do not)

    If there ever was a player that needed the carrot on a stick in front of his face – it’s Manny.

  162. five iron from fenway January 14th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Montero is one of the best prosepcts in all of baseball – I think he was in camp last year too. If I remember correctly he hit a homerun in one of the spring gmaes.
    Romine is up there with Montero as one of the better prospects in the Yankee system.
    Anson made it through the Rule V draft. This is a big year for him.
    It will be fantastic to get some first hand reports on the big 2 – Romine and Montero.
    Other than the prestige what is the difference if you are in the big league camp or the minor league camp next door? I would imagine if you are turning heads the right people will see you in either location.

  163. Phil January 14th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Jim Rice has said some phenomenally stupid things since Gammons got him into the Hall of Fame.

  164. Betsy January 14th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    I will say this – I have been more positive than usual this off-season – with so much time left until ST, I find my normal pessimism returning……..unfortunately! I always find something to worry abou. One thing I never have to worry with Cash, though, is him sleeping on the job. I just would like to solidify the whole team and not just these big parts (CC, Tex, AJ)

  165. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    “We need to sign a jones now that he has been released from LA… he would be a perfect fit as a CF / 4th OF.”

    Yeah and his .158 avg. He makes Gardners bat look like Gwynn. Over weight and out of b-12.

  166. joe January 14th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Isn’t Cash the player that separated Jeter’s shoulder on Opening Day a few years ago? Also, I believe Mitre was suspended for 50 games.

  167. Phil January 14th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    No, Cash wasn’t the Blue Jay who messed up Jeter’s shoulder.

  168. Phil January 14th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    It was Ken Huckaby.

  169. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    PAT M
    January 14th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
    Greenwade…Mantle, Murcer Catfish Hunter ( ? )all signed by him ,,,,I’m I right on this GB7 ????

    ————————————————————

    Add Ralph Terry, Tom Morgan, Tom Sturdivant, Hank Bauer and Ellie Howard. Did you know that he helped persuade Branch Rickey to sign Jack Robinson.

  170. vinnie gags from jersey January 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    i want josh Hamilton for center field, what would it take to get him?

    one thing the yankees have a surplus of that every team needs is young starting pitching. acevas, kennedy, coke(not rly young) betances, mccalister, brackman, hughes…. list goes on…

    the funny thing is, is we have no openings for starting pitching, we will wind up with a 5th starter whos not Hughes, how will any of these kids get a chance to pitch?

    They converted coke to a starter, and i think hes going to be the most dominate out of all the young kids minus joba. But the most he would ever be able to do would be a long man, and a fill in.

    i think we should ship a blockbuster for hamilton. Since they are converting Kinsler to left field, and trying to put young back to 2nd base to make room for andrus. Heres what my trade is cano, hughes, kennedy, coke, jackson, veras for hamilton. let them put cano in 3rd or young in third, or let young dh. i dont care what they do. but they get a bat back for hamilton, they get a centerfielder back, relief pitching, and 3 highly regarded pitching prospects.

    think about it Text, Arod, Hamilton or Ham. Arod. Text. i dont kno about you but after i saw hamilton in the derby i already preordered his jersey in pinstripes.. you dont need players who can rip the ball 40 times, you need those players who change the momentum of the game, teixeria is just that, as was mantle, mattingly, gehrig, dimmagio, martin… im not saying he would ever have their careers, but hes more directed to repeating their leadership than manny right?

    have fun ripping this idea apart.. haha i hope i give u all something to talk about let me know what u think it would take to get hamilton

  171. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    S.o.S.
    January 14th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
    “Who are you? Tom Greenwade? Elmer Fudd? Bozo The Clown?”

    GB7,
    O.k. i know Elmer and Bozo, but who the hell is Tom Greenwade? You never fail to remind me that your prehistoric.

    ————————————————————

    He was a scout for the Yanks from the 30s through the 70s. He signed the best talent out of the southwest and midwest during that time.

  172. Phil January 14th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    It broke Greenwade’s heart that he couldn’t sign all the black players he was finding.

  173. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Yankees aren’t getting Josh Hamilton for centerfield.

    1) They’d have to give up pretty much every major-league probable prospect

    2) They have AJax

    3) Hamilton’s a great story, but who knows how long he can stay clean (I hope it’s the rest of his life, but it is a real risk.)

  174. you gotta have faith (we are called the evil empire for a reason :) ) January 14th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    ESPN had an interview with pedroia and this made me laugh with pride haha:

    ESPN: What’s a good short joke?

    Dustin Pedroia: The best one I heard was at Yankee Stadium. We were playing the shift on Giambi and someone was yelling “The grass is taller than you, Pedroia!” I was like Jeez, man.

  175. Nick in SF January 14th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    You’re not thinking clearly, Rebecca. Hamilton has to get himself out of Texas pronto, he’s much too close to Mexico and its border wars and violent-yet-seductive drug cartels. The place to stay clean is NYC!

  176. JoeyA January 14th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Nick in SF,
    Did you just say the place to stay clean is NYC? You are in la-la land in San Francisco, but you can find crack on the ground in NYC.

  177. DT January 14th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    He was a scout for the Yanks from the 30s through the 70s. He signed the best talent out of the southwest and midwest during that time.

    Re: Tom Greenwade

    So it’s not true he dropped the Wade part, changed occupations, and took a Road Trip?

  178. Joe from Long Island January 14th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    My work place has new software that bans “social networking websites”, such as this blog. So, I have to catch up when I get home, after dinner. Great reading.

    Right now, I have on the MLB Network. I am quickly developing an appreciation for this network.

  179. GrouchoNYY January 14th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Remember that these are all non-roster (40 man) players. Those on the 40 man automatically get an official invite(for example, Dunn, Garcia and Brackman). In addition, anyone in minor league camp can be used in spring training, even if not formally invited.
    There are always extra catchers around because of the large number of pitchers.

    Some of the non-roster invites get to come as a result of a bonus to sign a minor league contract with the Yankees. Overall, it’s not something to take too seriously.

  180. Vrsce January 14th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    JOSH

    Rice was a great ballplayer, but always had a chip and apparently still does. That is why he fits so well with the petty Boston psyche.

  181. PAT M January 14th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    GB7, Didn’t know about Terry & Bauer…..

  182. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    ” i dont kno about you but after i saw hamilton in the derby i already preordered his jersey in pinstripes.. ”

    Will you be replacing the Abreus Phillies jersey with it?

  183. Phil January 14th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Rice was only a great ballplayer in Fenway.

  184. Tom January 14th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Hamilton’s not even arbitration eligible yet. He’s 4 years away from free agency, so Texas should be no rush to move him.

    I’d love to see him on the Yankees though.

  185. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    I think if we were going to unload our young talent, i would go after Siezmore.

  186. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Can’t wait for ST.

    I have to say-and I guess this is kind of weird-but the offseason feels like it was a lot shorter this year than it felt last year.

  187. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    “I have to say-and I guess this is kind of weird-but the offseason feels like it was a lot shorter this year than it felt last year.”

    I felt like the post season was. I havnt been this excited for spring training forever. No Yankees games in October is too grueling to repeat anytime soon.

  188. jennifer January 14th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Dustin Pedroia: The best one I heard was at Yankee Stadium. We were playing the shift on Giambi and someone was yelling “The grass is taller than you, Pedroia!” I was like Jeez, man.
    ———————————————

    HA HA too funny!!!!

  189. PAT M January 14th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    For me Rebecca, October & November seemed like an eternity…..Even the GM meetings dragged….Once December hit everything moved quickly….And to think, there’s more to come before Spring Training…..Not playing in October had much to do with my perception I suppose….

  190. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Pat M: November dragged for me.

  191. Tom January 14th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    The Offseason picked up after CC signed. Before that it was like Chinese water torture.

  192. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    PAT M
    January 14th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
    GB7, Didn’t know about Terry & Bauer…..

    ————————————————————

    Greenwade had also scouted Ernie Banks, Willie Mays and Henry Aaron, but, Gorge Weiss refused to allow any blacks in the system. Imagine that outfield for 20 years.

    Here’s a short story about Ralph Terry, told by David Halberstram.

    http://pecklers.blogspot.com/2.....terry.html

  193. kill.schill(ing) January 14th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    The Dodgers are going to release Andruw Jones.

    Any agree that the Cash-Man should offer him a $2 to $4 million contract of guaranteed money and the opportunity to make the major league roster.

  194. Fan mail from some flounder January 14th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    What do people think of the MLB channel? Interesting to see what the programming is like once ST starts. Yanks coverage should be ample, no?

  195. Tom January 14th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    This Greenwade guy was a magnificent scout:

    “Tom Greenwade was a noted baseball scout for fifty years. He signed Mickey Mantle and Elston Howard for the Yankees. Later he signed Bobby Murcer, who replaced Mantle in the outfield. He also scouted the Negro Leagues, and gave the report to Branch Rickey that convinced Rickey that Jackie Robinson was his man.”

    http://www.baseball-reference......_Greenwade

  196. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Here’s a short story about Ralph Terry, told by David Halberstram.

    ***He had even played on the same Baxter Springs team that Mickey Mantle had once played on, and in time Greenwade showed up at Terry’s home – a lean, older man driving a black Cadillac. Tom Greenwade, Terry thought, had a pretty good line when he dealt with country boys. “Ralph,” he said, “how would you like to play baseball in the biggest city in the world?” Terry liked that idea immediately, and he liked it even better when Greenwade told him that Terry’s timing could not be better. “Why, son, the Big Three (Raschi, Reynolds, and Lopat) are getting old. You’ll be coming up just in time.” And Terry loved the sound of Greenwade’s words, but with the confidence of the young, he believed them as well. He signed with the Yankees for a small bonus and was sent to Binghamton, New York, to play with one of the Yankee Class A teams***

    ***Since Cooperstown was not very far away, he got permission from his manager to go over and watch the annual hall of Fame game there, where the Yankees were playing that day. Jim Turner, the Yankee pitching coach, recognized him and, because it was not a league game, told him it was all right to sit down at the end of the Yankee dugout***

    ***Terry walked down to the end of the bench, where he found three very old men sitting together. Very full of himself, and sure that the big leagues were just around the corner, Terry introduced himself to the nearest of the men. “Hi, I’m Ralph Terry, and I’m pitching for the Binghamton Yankees,” he said, and the tone of his voice, he later decided, was more than a little cocky, implying that within a year or two he would be with the big-league club. The older man, one of the most courteous people Ralph Terry had ever met, said, “Well, Ralph, it certainly is a pleasure to meet you. Now, my name is Cy Young. And these fellas over here next to me are Zack Wheat and Ty Cobb.” Just as Terry decided that he was the youngest and biggest fool in professional baseball, Cy Young moved over a little closer, to sit next to him, and he talked pitching with him for the rest of the day***

    ***That story probably took place in about 1954. Cy Young was born in 1867, so that would have made him 87. In fact, he died in 1955. What an incredible and lucky moment for any young man. As for Cobb, well let’s just leave it to Ray Liotta who as Shoeless Joe Jackson, said it best: “Ty Cobb wanted to play, but none of us could stand the son of a bitch when he was alive, so we told him to stick it***

  197. jennifer January 14th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    New Yankee Stadium in the mix for NHL outdoor game, report says
    by John Shabe / NJ.com
    Wednesday January 14, 2009, 2:26 PM
    MCT PhotoThe New Year’s Day game between Detroit and Chicago at Wrigley Field drew high TV ratings for the NHL.

    The new Yankee Stadium could be the site of an upcoming NHL outdoor game, according to this report on Bloomberg.com. Thing is the new stadium might have to beat out two warm weather sites to get the game:The Vegas Strip and The Rose Bowl.

    The NHL had discussed staging this year’s game at the old Yankee Stadium, with the New York Rangers as the host team. When that plan fell through, the league decided on Wrigley Field, the 95-year-old home of baseball’s Chicago Cubs.

    The NHL likely will begin requiring cities interested in hosting the game to bid for it, a process used for the NFL’s annual Super Bowl. The league likely will begin scheduling the games two years in advance as well to allow for better marketing by the league and host city, [NHL COO John] Collins said.

  198. rodg12 January 14th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    I’m in for offering Andruw Jones a ML contract for about $2 million. Doubt he gets that elsewhere. He has the possibility of being a huge upgrade over Gardner/Cabrera. Latest reports I’ve heard have him in good shape too.

  199. PAT M January 14th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Yanks should sign A. Jones if & when he’s released….

  200. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Pat M,

    whereever Cashman is at now, I bet he already setted up his alarm clock and have his phone already.

  201. YankeeRay January 14th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    So there are quite a few on the Manny train and quite a few detractors.

    Joey, yes I would not be in on him for 25 mm. I would wait it out until he figures it out that he will only get 2 yrs for between 18-20 mm. Once he realizes that then he will want to play for what he can get and play where he wants and that is in NY. He knows there are more advertising dollars there and he will try and recoup his losses that way. Thast carrot alone will keep him on good behavior.

    Yankee Trader, yes this is my fantasy team and thats what the hot stove will do to you. I would sign Pettite for 10 mm and I would trade Nady for some IF/OF depth in a salary dump. I would coerce as you say Matsui and try and get away with only paying 5 mm of his salary in another dump for a low level prospect.
    With my proposed team we would be awesome and I believe that Manny will be at his best in NY against Boston and anyone else once the yankee fans get behind him.
    I think he would respect Mo, and Arod would find a way to get along with him.

    This may be a fantasy but it is not that far fetched.
    Until I hear that Cash has said we have no interest then I will kepp dreaming.

    These will be the Bronx Bombers again.

  202. YankeeRay January 14th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Is Nick from SF still here? Hey Nick, did you get your answer about MILFS last night?
    Living in SF I’m not surprised you never heard that term :)

  203. Nick in SF January 14th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Yanks should sign A. Jones if & when he’s released… from Jenny Craig?

  204. Mike January 14th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    give Jackson a minor league deal!

  205. DT January 14th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    You have to ask yourself WHY would LA dump Jones and eat 20 million dollars if he had anything left at all?

    If he gets anything more than a minor league contract and invite to ST I’ll be floored.

  206. Nick in SF January 14th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Really, YankeeRay? You, a father?

    One person on this board who thinks SF-stereotype-gay-baiting jokes are funny is already more than enough.

  207. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Nick,

    Andruw actually lost some weight and looks like the Andruw Jones of old. :?

  208. Tom January 14th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    IJones seems to want to go back to the Braves…

  209. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    “IJones seems to want to go back to the Braves…”

    ahh well then…one less FA that people would rant about. lol :D

  210. kill.schill(ing) January 14th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Hey, if I decide to run against Assemblyman Dick Brodsky, I expect all of you regulars to donate money to my campaign.

  211. PAT M January 14th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    If A. Jones is released, Yanks have to take a real close look at him….Hell, if their looking @ Freddy Garcia, you must consider A. Jones……

  212. UpState January 14th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    A. Jones seen today ….

    wearing an Atlanta Braves hat…go figure.

  213. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Unless the 2 mil came with some Androstine. His best days are behind them.

    I woudnt mind a mild upgrade with Dejesus.

  214. PAT M January 14th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    GB7, Nice piece on Ralph Terry…..He was good, then he was gone…..

  215. Michelle B. (X is the new black) January 14th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Thanks Nick, i was gonna say something. Actually, more gays live in new york per capita than anywhere else in the country. There doesnt need to be that kind of bashing on this board.

  216. Bronx Jeers January 14th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Apparently Josh Beckett stole Andruw Jones’ supply of Crisco.

  217. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    “Yanks should sign A. Jones if & when he’s released… from Jenny Craig?”

    “The biggest loser” celebrity edition should be something looking into.

  218. Joe from Long Island January 14th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    MLB Hot Stove had a piece on Adruw Jones tonight. They seemed to think his batting mechanics have been out of whack, coupled with an injury issue. (I confess, I was trying to make dinner and didn’t catch the whole case they were making.)

    On the face of it, I have no problem with the Yanks looking at Jones. Their baseball professionals, Kevin Long, etc., know a lot more about hitting than I do; though I do remember reading in various places that his D has suffered over the years, also.

    My point is that he should be checked out. If that’s done (I would have to think it was/is), and they make an informed decision to pass on him, I have no problem with that.

  219. jennifer January 14th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    I hear that Citigroup is going to lay off 1/3 of its work force. And yet they are still paying 400 million for the naming rights for the Mets new stadium. Where is the public outcry!??

  220. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Gay bashing on this board?

    I’d rather have the trolls call me a dried-out c-word that still lives in my mother’s basement than see gay bashing here.

    Few things in the world I hate more than homophobic attitudes.

  221. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    “Where is the public outcry!??”

    It gets put in the same catigory as the 100k messages after being bailed out. Sickening.

  222. Nick in SF January 14th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    For shame, YankeeRay. Penalty box for you. But please do not feel dissuaded from your daily Manny affirmation.

  223. Tom January 14th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Joe, I think that the Yankees would do their homework on a guy like Jones. If they think he’s healthy, in shape, and capable of playing CF again he could be a steal.

  224. JoeyA January 14th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Andruw Jones? Please people. He is the last thing we need on this team.
    The guy has not only proven he has lost most, if not all, his baseball capability, but his physique has deteriorated. Do we need a guy who isn’t motivated enough to stay in shape? There’s a reason the Dodgers are releasing him, he’s worthless.

  225. jennifer January 14th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    S.o.S.

    Can you believe that 1/3 of their workforce is going to lose their jobs! How many jobs would be saved if they didn’t have to spend 20 million a year to have their name on a field!

    The public is screaming about the Yankees getting a loan. But not about the Mets helping people to lose their jobs.

  226. pat January 14th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Harold Reynolds picking AJ Burnett for his CYA pick for 2009 on MLB Network. Grady Sizemore for MVP so I guess he doesn’t believe in the odd year A-Rod thing.

  227. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....id-ar.html

    Angels avoid arbitration with Chone Figgins.

  228. pat January 14th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    MLB Network just showed A. Jones working out with Chipper today. He’s definitely slimmed down.

  229. Fran January 14th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Yesterday on MLB TV Hot Stove they reported that Andruw Jones wants to go back to Atlanta.

  230. jennifer January 14th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Is Francisco Cervelli not considered an invite cause he is on the 40 man?

  231. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    jennifer: yes.

  232. Aaron(the better Aaron)(KEEP NADY AND SWISH) January 14th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    actually i just saw Andruw on MLB network, he’s pretty jacked and fit..

  233. S.o.S. January 14th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Amen Jennifer. Lets continue this tomorrow.

  234. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Jennifer,

    affirmative.

  235. YankeeRay January 14th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Funny Nick. By the way I was serious about your question from last night and I didn’t know if you got the answer.

    And by the way, whats the feeling on Manny in SF?

  236. Nick in SF January 14th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    YankeeRay: I don’t think the people who registered offense are joking. You’d be well-advised to drop that line of ‘humor’ from your routine.

    As for the question from last night, I don’t know if it was particularly settled or not, but I will continue to use ‘RBIs’ without shame.

    Here is the latest SF Chronicle article about Manny:

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....157HN5.DTL

  237. Buddy Biancalana January 14th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    michele-

    Are you around? Never got your restaurant recommendations. Do you need my email addy again?

  238. DT January 14th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    I’ve only watched the MLB Hot Stove show a few times. I like the player demonstrations. Yesterday, Ricky Henderson was showing tips on stealing bases. That was cool.

    For others that have watched it more often – has the “S” word come up at all? I wondered if it would be sanitized since it was sponsored by MLB.

    In other words a Selig mandate – no collusion talk, no roids or PED discussions, no commish bashing….etc..

  239. dave January 14th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    If the yanks sign freddy garcia to a major league deal i think i am going to throw up in my mouth a little. The list of people that would be more benficial to the yanks than garcia currently is contains pretty much every pitcher left in free agency and almost any one cash can get in a trade for nady and prospects. Garcia used to be valuable at pitching innings – now he is injury prone. What is the point of him any more? Garland is a better version of garcia who can also be had on the cheap. If cash wants to start being frugal or cheap, at the very least make a play for garland. Garcia just wastes money that could be saved for future deals.

    At this point, i think it is very feasible that pettitte gets an offer of over 10 mil from the mets. Now that the braves signed lowe, they look desperate for starters. Who do they even have outside of Santana, Maine, Pelfrey and Redding. They need at least one, maybe even two more starters. You can be sure they are eyeing pettitte along with perez and a cheaper arm.

    Trading nady mid season is stupid. His value wont be higher midseason than it is right now because swish will take some playing time and nady will be considered a platoon player which may even decrease his value. And his numbers in NY will far below is numbers in pitt which made him look like he had a career year in 2008. The numbers in NY are more like the real nady and will lower his value most likely. Also, manny is the only right bat left on the FA market – nady looks like a pretty good alternative as he is cheaper, younger, only one year signing, capable of getting type A status and can play the out field or even first base. I cant imagine we could get more value from nady during the season than we can right now. I dont like the braves as possible trade partners though – we need cheap young pitching that the other team considers expendable and the braves have no expendable starting pitchers that i can think of. The reds with pitchers and the nationals with milledge looked like more ideal trading partners for nady. And the reds could use a couple of guys to fill out the back end of their rotation as well which the yanks could help them out if they give them higher pitching talent in return.

  240. Nick in SF January 14th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    “If the yanks sign freddy garcia to a major league deal i think i am going to throw up in my mouth a little.”

    You know how to do things just a little?

    I kid, I kid!

  241. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 14th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    Well played Nick.

  242. Andrea January 14th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    Nick…::applauds::

  243. Buddy Biancalana January 14th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    You know how to do things just a little?

    ——————————————

    I need to see it before I believe it.

  244. Betsy January 14th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    The MLB Hot Stove show is really terrific – Heyman and Verducci are always up to date with the latest info and they have had some terrific discussions. Barry Larkin was hilarious tonight. At one point, Victor Rojas brought up Paul Byrd’s comments that he was going to sit out the first half. LOL Larkin practically jumped out of his skin and said that he would never sign this guy for his team – the guy is just going to be sitting around while the rest of the team grinds it out for 60-70 games. Then Larkin said something to the effect of “so what if he says he’s (Byrd) a family man? Every player is a family man – everyone misses their family”…….It was great to watch; I like Larkin a lot.

  245. YankeeRay January 14th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    So Nick, the Giants writer and or fans are ok with Manny dogging it a little? The dodger fans and players and staff want him back?
    But some of our fans think that he will be a distraction?

    I am not on board with him dogging it, I just don’t think he will in the Bronx in front of his home town fans and some of the hardest fans in baseball.

    Bring him on.

  246. Buddy Biancalana January 14th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    YankeeRay-

    Ever hear of Barry Bonds? Giants fans are used to it.

  247. dave January 14th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    You never threw up in your mouth before? It usually isnt all that much but it is disgusting. Exactly like the yanks signing garcia would be. Put me in the garland over garcia fan boat. I have made my list – 1. sign pettitte for 13 mil or less, 2. trade nady and prospects for a 200 inning reasonably quality pitcher. 3. sign sheets for one year and less than 10 mil, 4. sign garland for less than 5 mil for one year. The yanks have enough money and enough commonsense to do nothing below that list which includes perez, garcia, looper, wolf, trading nady alone for a bad pitcher and converting coke to a starter role in order to make sure the spot is filled. We spent over 400 mil in three players – cant we invest less than 15 mil for a decent fourth starter to make sure the rotation doesnt collapse with a major injury? Cash always makes the big moves the right way but it is time to make the small move the right way too.

  248. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..Sheets ?) Giants loss still stings trust me it does :( January 14th, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    Close eye on Russo, Melancon, Curtis and Jackson…Colin Curtis w/ Austin Jackson those 2 played unbelieveable as soon as playoff competition began.

  249. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    Dave, you missed that entire joke. Hard to believe you’re studying to be a doctor. You’d better switch to veterinarian. Less chance of malpractice suits. Better to bury a dead dog than a person.

  250. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    “Close eye on Russo, Melancon, Curtis and Jackson…Colin Curtis w/ Austin Jackson those 2 played unbelieveable as soon as playoff competition began.”

    the AA champions will cause a havoc in spring training. :D

  251. dave January 14th, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    How does a horrible braves signing mean pettitte deserves more money? Just because one team makes a nonsensical mistake doesnt mean every team should have to suffer the consequences. Pettitte doesnt deserve a dime more because lowe got a ridiculous contract for many reasons. Mainly because Lowe is going to pitch better than pettitte will primarily because he is in the NL east. Also, Lowe doesnt deserve that kind of money no matter what the actual deal was and the only reason lowe got that contract was because he had a market for his services. Pettitte still has no market and no offer bigger than the yanks 10 mil. If he did, we would most certainly know about it. Also, lowe is coming off a very solid season and pettitte is coming off a very poor season in which he was injured. The only reason pettitte deserves to have his offer raised by the yanks is if the mets jump in with a 12 million dollar offer. Then, pettitte will have a market and the yanks will be forced to up their offer if they want him back. Without an offer, it is still the yanks or retirement for pettitte so i really think he is trying to wait it out for all the bigger names to come off the board. At this point though, pettitte is one of the top of the class so this saga should be played at shortly.

  252. Ed - American League, prepared to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 14th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    According to Scot Gregor of the Arlington Daily Herald, the Marlins have shown interest in free agent shortstop Orlando Cabrera.

    Cabrera definitely wouldn’t bump Hanley Ramirez from his spot, but the long shot acquisition could result in Dan Uggla sliding to third. Cabrera would obviously then man second base.

    ———-

    the Marlins are crazy!!! they are ready to invest big time? hmm… :?

  253. dave January 14th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    I hope the extra couple of million was worth pettitte’s reputation because he is losing a lot of respect for what amounts to marginal sums of money for him as he has already made over 100 mil. it isnt that he wants more money as that would be understandable for a fan to comprehend and digest. I think what is ticking people off is the fact that he said it definitely wouldnt be about the money only a couple of months ago and now, it is so obviously about the money and nothing else that it makes him look greedy and dishonest. If he just said he would come back if the yanks showed him some “respect” or whatever the players say to justify their greediness, i dont think hardly any one would take an issue with it as every player seems to do this no matter how good of a person they are. The dishonesty is what hurts his reputation and I doubt the money will compensate for the mess that pettitte has created around him but he has no one to blame for his situation but himself.

  254. dave January 14th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    GB,

    I got the joke, I just didn’t respond to it and I would rather talk about baseball than the size of my posts. Thanks for the vote of confidence by the way as it means so much coming from you.

  255. dave January 14th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    And it is a bit late to switch career paths for me. Im already about 40 grand in debt and rising.

  256. bfadds January 15th, 2009 at 11:24 am

    I like the notion of JJ Hardy as a replacement for Jeter once his contract is up. He’s undervalued (somewhat) because he’s playing in Milwaukee and while Jeter’s numbers are in decline, Hardy’s are on the rise.

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